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Trekcast 421: A Status Report on the Health of Star Trek · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek podcast. I am one of your hosts, Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Lobardo with me as always, we have Daniel Reyes, Scott
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  Speaker 2: Strongbeard Bowers and this is a special trek Cast crossover.
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  Speaker 2: A right, So we've got a couple of guys here.
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  Speaker 2: I think one is from the Mister Belvedere podcast, the
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  Speaker 2: others from the Love Vote the Love Boat podcast. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I met these guys two minutes ago, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe they could tell us who they are.
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  Speaker 3: Matt, why don't you go first?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Meg, Yeah, I'm Matt.
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  Speaker 5: I'm one of the co hosts of the pod Race podcast,
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  Speaker 5: which is a Star Trek beat Space nine podcast. My
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  Speaker 5: co host Elisa and I watched Star Trek beat Space
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  Speaker 5: nine and share our deep and i reverent thoughts on
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  Speaker 5: our favorite Star Trek series.
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  Speaker 6: Nice and I am I'm Patrick from the It's Got
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  Speaker 6: Star Trek podcast. My co hosts Dan Jesse and I
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  Speaker 6: have a weekly sort of humor centric go all over
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  Speaker 6: the Star Trek universe. We cover the live the new
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  Speaker 6: shows when they're airing otherwise. We have an algorithm that
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  Speaker 6: we've applied that selects the next topic for us from
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  Speaker 6: some point in the Star Trek franchise.
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  Speaker 3: And so we try not to be too serious, just
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  Speaker 3: have a little fun every week.
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  Speaker 4: Nice and are you in space right now? Is that
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  Speaker 4: what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in space?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I actually had a cruise ship in space.
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  Speaker 6: Because the reality behind me. When I've not used this
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  Speaker 6: clever little background, people think I'm in a murder room.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in my old I think exactly. You know what,
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  Speaker 3: thanks for having me on on on the show today.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, you could podcast? You can literally podcast
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  Speaker 2: from anywhere. I'm digging the car.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: I got I got a family, I got kids at
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  Speaker 2: home that there's just no quiet spot. So I've been
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing this podcast from the driveway for how
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  Speaker 2: long have we been doing this? Daniel like like.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you guys were doing this before me.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. But I mean I'm out in the world. Life,
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  Speaker 2: life goes on. There's people walking by.
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  Speaker 4: You see, you're exploring strange new worlds in New York.
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  Speaker 2: I've taken I've taken deliveries from Amazon. Want that podcast
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  Speaker 2: Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses have approached. It's good. It's good.
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  Speaker 2: It's right. That's right, it's all good.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we're all we're all gathered together today to discuss
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  Speaker 4: the health of Star Trek, right, that's right. Yes, we're
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  Speaker 4: going to talk about the current state of the franchise,
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  Speaker 4: how things are going, and that's why we wanted to
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  Speaker 4: bring on some other podcasts to to talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not just us, but overall what the fans
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  Speaker 4: are thinking. We did a survey. We had quite a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people fill out the survey and we I
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  Speaker 4: think we got a pretty good temperature check.
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  Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to see the results of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, me too. So but before that, we should
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  Speaker 4: get into Star Trek News since there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: lot so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still we go Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 4: So our first bit of Star Trek News is some
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  Speaker 4: very sad news comes to us from Deadline and unfortunately
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  Speaker 4: Roberto or See, one of the writers and producers of
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  Speaker 4: the Star Trek reboot films, has passed away. He was
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  Speaker 4: fifty one years old. He was also one of the
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  Speaker 4: writers in direct producers of the Transformers films a few
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  Speaker 4: of those. He was fifty one years old. He passed
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  Speaker 4: away on February twenty fifth, looks like after a battle
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  Speaker 4: with kidney disease or as. He was also known for
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  Speaker 4: being the collaborator with Robert Kirtman or Kurtzman. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's all we know about that. Also, we had another
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  Speaker 4: death in Hollywood to kind of talk about, Yeah, Gene Hackman. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that that should not be failed to be mentioned. Interesting
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  Speaker 4: circumstances of that one right now, but we will.
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  Speaker 7: Find still unfolding.
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  Speaker 4: Still unfolding. Yeah, yeah, that one's a weird one.
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  Speaker 6: Well, normally with a ninety five year old actor, you're like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 6: you know, yeah, exactly, yea. But because of the bizarre circumstances,
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  Speaker 6: it's yeah, his wife.
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  Speaker 2: And the dog, and like yeah, yeah, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: likely it was likely carbon monoxide.
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  Speaker 4: Well I've heard they ruled that out ready.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they came in that, they came in check checked
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  Speaker 7: the gas. They they said that they already checked the
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  Speaker 7: bodies for signs of carbon monoxide poisoning.
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  Speaker 2: They said no, all right, So I haven't been paying attention.
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  Speaker 7: They were saying there was no foul play, but now
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  Speaker 7: they're saying it's suspicious.
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  Speaker 6: There's pills strewn about, but they don't know if that
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  Speaker 6: was an act, you know, just tipping it over while
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  Speaker 6: passing out or I don't know. And then there were
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  Speaker 6: two other dogs that weren't affected. They were found roaming around.
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  Speaker 6: So I mean it's a real proper mystery. It'll be
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  Speaker 6: at the top of many podcasts to come, no doubt
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  Speaker 6: and tell them.
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  Speaker 5: So all right, Patrick's always looking for an angle podcast.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was a very prolific actor. Of course, I
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  Speaker 7: will always know him as Lex Luthor.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, great, greatest criminal mind of our age.
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  Speaker 8: That all right.
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  Speaker 4: Our next news story comes to us from Trek News
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  Speaker 4: or trek news dot net, and we are getting more
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  Speaker 4: information about the Star Trek audio series that's coming around. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Star Trek CON's coming at some point this year twenty
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  Speaker 4: five and they have hired lost actor Navian Andrews as
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  Speaker 4: con con. You believe it, We have a new con. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: I was right there. That was right there. Come on,
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  Speaker 4: I can't.
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  Speaker 6: What do y'all think about this concept, the audio drama concept,
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  Speaker 6: because I keep going back and forth and I'm I'll
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  Speaker 6: listen to it when it comes out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited that it's something different and new, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what to make of this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they've done it for like Batman and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and it's fine. It's it's a kick back to the
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  Speaker 4: old nineteen twenties radio plays.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll listen to it, just be I listened to
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  Speaker 7: a lot of podcasts. I drive a semi for a living,
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  Speaker 7: so ill I'll listen to it. And you know, lately
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  Speaker 7: I've been I have been listening to a lot of
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  Speaker 7: Star Trek podcasts. I meant to say audiobooks. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 7: I you know, I just got done listening to a
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  Speaker 7: Batman Canadi nine Batman sequel audiobook. I'm listening to some
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  Speaker 7: Star Trek the card audiobooks that are pretty good. There's
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  Speaker 7: another they've already come out with, sort of this kind
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  Speaker 7: of a concept thing with seven of nine and Raffi.
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  Speaker 7: It's different than an audio book where there's actually sound
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  Speaker 7: effects and the different the different actors are playing their part.
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  Speaker 7: So you've got Jerry Ryan and whoever played Raffi. Dan,
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  Speaker 7: you're a big fan of Raffi.
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  Speaker 2: Who plays Raffi? Yes, okay, no, that's his name, Raffi, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: ra Rafi Ella so, but the reason I haven't I
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  Speaker 2: haven't purchased that one yet because most of the audiobooks
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  Speaker 2: are like around fifteen dollars, but you get like ten
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  Speaker 2: hours of entertainment.
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  Speaker 7: This is only like an hour and forty five minutes
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  Speaker 7: for the same price.
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  Speaker 2: So it is it interesting?
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  Speaker 7: So we'll see it's has to offer how much it's
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  Speaker 7: going to be.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I feel like it's an hour
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  Speaker 2: and forty five minutes. Because they they wrote it to
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  Speaker 2: do a TV show. I can't and when it didn't
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  Speaker 2: and when it didn't happen, they're like, ah, we'll just
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  Speaker 2: do it without the cameras.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I can't wait for the ads where con starts
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  Speaker 4: reading about like blue Chew and yeah, that's what I'm
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  Speaker 4: exciting about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Turbo tax.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. So we have no idea when this is
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  Speaker 4: coming out. So at some point this year, you know
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  Speaker 4: what bothers me though, what's that the picture?
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  Speaker 3: What about it that they paid to show?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's that it's a it's an audio it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's an audio drama, all right, and they and so
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  Speaker 2: if they're going to show a picture of him either
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  Speaker 2: from his time in the show, lost, or a picture
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  Speaker 2: of him standing on the sidewalk drinking a latte or
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  Speaker 2: something fine, but to kind of make it, like put
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  Speaker 2: him in a costume and make him look like he
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  Speaker 2: might look and it's people are the average person is stupid.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna see the article and think there's con.
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  Speaker 7: That's what I thought when I saw the picture.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. They do this a lot with with comic books,
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  Speaker 2: these these clickbait articles. Something big happens in the comic book,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll do it. They'll do a headline and it
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  Speaker 2: and they'll do a picture of like the MCU version
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  Speaker 2: of that character. And now you get all these people
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  Speaker 2: talking about this event that's gonna happen in the MCU
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  Speaker 2: and no it's not. They're talking about a comic book.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't read the article. You look at the
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  Speaker 2: picture and read the headlines. And I feel like they
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  Speaker 2: know that and they purposely do that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of picture, our last news story comes to
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  Speaker 4: us from Independent dot co dot UK and William Shatner
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  Speaker 4: was responding to a fan on Twitter. Fan asked him
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  Speaker 4: how could you let them kill off Currican generations? And
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  Speaker 4: Grandpa replied with the gift. The gift was amazing. So
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  Speaker 4: this was the gift Grandpa.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see that. That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know he's in de nigetyes. He doesn't
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  Speaker 4: care anymore. He's gonna tell you yea.
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  Speaker 5: Real Harrison Ford about Star Wars hours there right, just.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah yeah. So but that's all the news stories.
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  Speaker 2: What's up with the Mount?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's still for sale. Yeah, the deal has
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  Speaker 4: not been finalized. Okay, you know we got time, all right,
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  Speaker 4: all right to our page. I know we'll buy Paramount together,
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  Speaker 4: couple together.
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  Speaker 2: Actually maybe maybe if the three podcasts joined forces, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we could purchase Paramount. I know, I know we
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  Speaker 2: don't have the fun. We have enough to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But if you guys want to want to chip in, may.
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  Speaker 4: Can scraunge up like seventeen bucks and.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we can make this happen, getting.
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  Speaker 3: Closer and closer to the to the to the number
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  Speaker 3: they're going to need exactly.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is the problem is I'm in Canada, so
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  Speaker 5: it's Canadian money, which might as well just be monopoly money,
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  Speaker 5: so which I can actually like contribute to that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but that's where they shoot everything now.
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  Speaker 4: So that might not true.
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  Speaker 5: That's true. There's goods express of Canadian TV recently.
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  Speaker 2: What's What's that?
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  Speaker 5: There was some talk of the podcast about Canadian TV recently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and how much I love it. I like
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  Speaker 2: Canadian It's my one of my favorite varieties of TV.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well let's uh, let's get to our
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  Speaker 4: main topic of Star Trek. Our things are going, So
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  Speaker 4: here we go fun will.
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  Speaker 7: Now comment, yes, talking may now comments.
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  Speaker 4: Essentially yes. Yeah. So, uh, basically the spurt from the
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  Speaker 4: idea of you know, we had three Star Trek series
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  Speaker 4: end last year, we had Prodigy, we had Discovery, and
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  Speaker 4: we had lower decks all come to an end, and
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  Speaker 4: we just wanted to see what was going on where
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  Speaker 4: fans we're at with Star Trek. You know, we do
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  Speaker 4: have the promise of Star Trek Academy or starfing Lead
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  Speaker 4: Academy coming around the corner. But you know, you go
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  Speaker 4: down to any Star Trek posting, any official posting, everyone's like,
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  Speaker 4: where's Legacy? Yeah, so it's it's kind of like, where
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  Speaker 4: where are we at?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: So I guess we lost Scott.
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  Speaker 2: But that's all right. I like these guys better got it's.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta be back. It's kind of back anyways. Uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so I kind of wanted to give, you know, talk
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  Speaker 4: about that. I also wanted to kind of kind of
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  Speaker 4: give you an idea of where we're at compared to
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  Speaker 4: where we were when we first started with Star Trek, so,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because because the numbers are are kind of
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  Speaker 4: there that overall things are better. So first off, I
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  Speaker 4: kind of wanted to show this when when Star Trek
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  Speaker 4: first came back in twenty what sixteen seventeen something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, I think, yeah, we had we had CBS
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  Speaker 4: All Access was the big streaming service, right that was,
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  Speaker 4: Oh they're they're scott okay bringing it back in the okay.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, CBS all Access right before they folded and
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  Speaker 4: turned into Paramount Plus, they were they were tipping at
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  Speaker 4: about thirty million subscribers, right, that's about and when they
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  Speaker 4: first started, they first started around nineteen million subscribers and
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  Speaker 4: then so that they increased by about eleven million over
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  Speaker 4: its run as CBA All Access. Then from there Paramount
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  Speaker 4: took over and for about a year it was about
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  Speaker 4: right in the thirties and then the up until it
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  Speaker 4: combined with Showtime, they tip the scales at about thirty
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  Speaker 4: six million subscribers to give you an idea. Currently Netflix
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  Speaker 4: has over three hundred million subscribers, so it's just it's
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  Speaker 4: a fraction of what could be the potential. But that's
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  Speaker 4: where we're at.
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  Speaker 2: But who has who has more Canadian produced television? Because
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  Speaker 2: that's true, is really what I gravitate to, and that's right,
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  Speaker 2: that's right.
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  Speaker 6: Do you all subscribe to Paramount Plus currently?
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  Speaker 4: I mean do you as a show? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I mean one reason why I ask is because it's like,
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  Speaker 6: if you do, why do you I still have a
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  Speaker 6: subscription and it's nominally for.
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  Speaker 3: The Star Trek.
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  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe, but I every day I start thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you can watch yeah, number of
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  Speaker 6: different ways, and especially when new shows aren't on.
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  Speaker 3: Got the old stuff saved to my computer, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of my Yeah, that's my theory why they
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  Speaker 4: haven't announced when Strange New Worlds is starting back out
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  Speaker 4: because they just want you to hold onto it.
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  Speaker 3: You never digital edg edging of some sort.
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  Speaker 7: Of well, I wonder if people how many people are
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  Speaker 7: like pausing their subscription and then coming back and you know,
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  Speaker 7: I'd be curious to see what the numbers are, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the month that Strange New World debuts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was looking for stuff like that, and I
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  Speaker 4: could not find that specific of numbers. I was able
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  Speaker 4: to find this, which was a quarterly breakdown of subscribers
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  Speaker 4: from from the beginning of start of Paramount Plus to
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  Speaker 4: currents our current third quarter numbers, so as you can see,
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  Speaker 4: like they started out low in the sixteens. Now we're
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  Speaker 4: up into seventy one million, seventy two million. But one
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  Speaker 4: of the big things that I found because none of
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  Speaker 4: these coincide with you know, like the Card season three debuted,
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  Speaker 4: or or Strange New World season one or two, like,
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  Speaker 4: none of that correlates with any of these jumps. The
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  Speaker 4: biggest correlation I found was when start, when a Paramount
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  Speaker 4: Plus sign an exclusive deal with Walmart to offer their
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  Speaker 4: streaming service with the Walmart Plus service or.
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  Speaker 6: People just got to by default yeah yeah, like Amazon Prime.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. So if you get the Walmart Plus. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you guys have that in Canada.
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  Speaker 9: Matt, but if we do, I don't subscribe, so okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: so it's like, yeah, they they just give you like
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  Speaker 9: what like you can go get your groceries at any level, or.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's you get free shipping and stuff too, and
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's Amazon Prime, it's Walmart Prime. Yeahs Walmart Prime.
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  Speaker 3: Terrifying. It's like a transformer.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure, yeah right, I'm pretty sure. My
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  Speaker 2: wife has this, which which means technically I have two
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  Speaker 2: Paramount plus subscriptions.
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  Speaker 10: There you go if you are all in, yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 10: but they give you the ads supported tier, whereas we
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  Speaker 10: don't have.
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  Speaker 4: That, so oh okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But still get you can still get ads if you
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  Speaker 6: pay for the It's terrible, the most horrific anyway.
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  Speaker 4: The thing that infuriates me more is when you hit
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  Speaker 4: the skip intro and it still plays the intro. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I I.
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  Speaker 6: What really business me off is when you're getting an
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  Speaker 6: AD for the thing you are watching.
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  Speaker 3: You're trying to watch the.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, and they're showing you a watching.
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  Speaker 3: It can't be that complicated to to sort that out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'll watch it again, I promise.
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  Speaker 3: If you let me watch it. Now, watch your more frustrating.
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  Speaker 7: We've got Netflix, and we went to watch a movie
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  Speaker 7: on NETFLI, and we've got the ad supported version on Netflix.
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  Speaker 7: I checked out three different movies last night. Couldn't watch
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  Speaker 7: them because I do the ad supported Netflix. I had
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  Speaker 7: to rent them from Prime. Rent one from Prime.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy, you know.
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  Speaker 2: That bothers me a little bit. It's it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: if it's not available on my tier, take it off
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  Speaker 2: my menu. I agree. Yeah, don't tea, don't tease me
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah again with the digital edging.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but you know so, really it hasn't been
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  Speaker 4: that Star Trek has boosted them. It's this Walmart thing
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  Speaker 4: and it makes sense, right, like pretty much everyone goes
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: to Walmart. And then I found this via flix Portal Patrol,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: just the number streaming services around the world and how
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: many subscribers they have and paramount pluses down there there
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: they're number seven. Netflix is number one at over three
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: hundred million. Prime has got two hundred million, but paramounts
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: right around seventy two million.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: What's hot Star?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What is it?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I've never heard a hot Star. I looked up.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Uh, that's like a like a like an X like
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: an X Men character.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I thought I thought it was interesting that
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Hulu was on there that character. Yeah, Hulu, though just
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: as like people who only subscribe to Hulu by itself, which.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, which imagine will go away at some point, right,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: isn't that the I would think Disney's already combined the
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: whole Hulu library in there, so one presumes they're going
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: to stop supporting that kind of extra at some point.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is tencent video? What is that?
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: That's Chinese?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I believe that that's right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so so yeah, so Paramount's got got a
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: lot of a lot of ground to make up, so
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: it's it's playing with the big boys. But that that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: where we're at with subscribers.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm curious.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: About the profit profit right, because you could have low subscribers,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: about high profitbil profitability if depending on what your library is.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: I guess that was the the impetus for all these
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: IP owners. They were like, we should have our own
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: streaming thing because we got this whole library, and it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: a big battle over whether you want to watch Star
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Trek and Andy Griffith or whatever's on HBO Max or whatever.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: They're called Max. Yeah, Max, call it Max.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: It drives me nuts, but you know, you know, so, uh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: I'm curious about about that because it does cost money
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: to run those servers, right, it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Does, it does. It's it's more people think. Yeah, But
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: as far as profitability, I don't have those numbers. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: went looking for them. The thing is you can hard
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: to find, I think. Yeah, they don't like to say
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: that too much, especially.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: They were running our company into the ground.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Paramount was running into the ground for quite a bit.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: And I know that their movies have been doing well,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: and that's kind of what's been propping them up. Things
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: like the Uh, the Top Gun reboot and a few
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: of there are other films have really helped them. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: you know, they're also for sale, and that family, the
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Redstones want to get out. Who knows what I'll mean
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: for the future, will they will they start fresh again
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: with everything? We don't know?
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: You know, well, who doesn't want to buy a Section
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: thirty one.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: So somewhere in that bardroom at Paramount, they're pitching Section
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: thirty one two to Tom Cruise and doing a mission
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: impossible crossover.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Section thirty two will be Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping for the Section thirty one Paw Patrol crossover.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: That's what I want. Yeah, And then we've got our survey,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: so I guess I'll ask you, guys, what do you
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: think of the current status startric? We ask people is
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: it great? Exciting? Okay, could be better? Or the new
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: stuff just isn't for me? Where do you guys sit
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: on it?
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: I think Raw Rathi, Ela Musica and Michael Burnham are
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: gonna lead Star Trek into the next millennium.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I think, so the next one or this one, because
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait for the next one.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a ways to go for the next one. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I think they might take us backwards.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: In a lot of ways. For me, the current state
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: is pretty much just a microcosm of kind of where
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: the wider industry at is in person like eh, like
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: you know, like like some of it I enjoy, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: but not to the same degree as like other things,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: and like some of it's like not for me, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: like that's okay, right, But there's just not to get
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: too like esoteric about it or whatever. But just the
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: way they write TV now in general, it's not how
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I engage with media or really like it. It's a
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: lot of like and then this happens, and then this happens,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: like this was like Discovery, right or it was so
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: plot heavy and it's like things just happen, as opposed
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: to because Michael Burnham does this, this happens, and it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: less based in character and more based in plot. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I think that's why Strange New World is kind of
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: the shining gem for me of like the contemporary era,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: because it is more of that episodic Yes, you can
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: have that kind of plot, but it almost does do
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: the DS nine thing a little bit where you have
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: those windows in the character, which is you know, whether
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: it's the TG thing or the voyage like a little
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: bit more of that classic Star trek. But yeah, I'll
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: I'll fess up. I still haven't seen the final season
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: of Discovery, not because I don't like Discovery. It's not
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: my favorite, but I didn't care enough to seek it
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: out and when because there's just so much out there
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: and it's like blocked out right and it's and it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: no like statement of like you know, quality or like
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: who leads it or like whatever. It's just if you're
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: not making me care. Is that an issue? Is there
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: a new audience that's finding it? Like I don't know? Right?
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: So, and I mean I share a lot of those
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: same thoughts I further survey, I actually put great and exciting,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: but with there's an asterisk there, the caveat there is.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: I think it's great and exciting in the sense that
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: they're producing a lot, they're trying different things. And on
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: our podcast when we discussed section thirty one, we had
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: a lot of fun talking about it is a big mess.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: But I was also like, hey, look, it didn't work out,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: but they tried something. And with Lower Decks and Prodigy
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: and as well as discovering Strange New Worlds and the
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Short Treks, they tried a lot of things.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: What concerns me is.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: They've tried a lot of things, but it kind of
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: seems like maybe they're pulling back from that now no
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: more Short Treks.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: As you mentioned at the top of the show, they've canceled.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: A lot of these shows that people really like, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: we don't even know when Strange New Worlds is coming back.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: We know it is, but we're sort of left dangling.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: So that's not that's not so wonderful.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And and I do see that they are
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: expanding with other franchises, like they've created like three or
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: four different Dexter shows and Yellowstone.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That's the spin.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Offs franchise business model, which can be frustrating when it's
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: not handled well, and right frankly it usually it usually
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: isn't in my view.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you're putting all your eggs in one basket. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: so that's that's the problem with that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: So far.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I'm digging everything that Taylor Sheridan's coming out with Landman
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: and Tulsa King.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Well, and I'm wondering too if that's you know, kind
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: of circling back. That's that's the difference, right, because again,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: so much of like the industry out is that IP
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: driven and milking it for what it's worth. But with
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: you know, Yellowstone or any of like Sheridan's other shows,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: you kind of have that singular authoreo viewpoint because it
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: is very much like Taylor Sheridan joint as opposed to
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: now Star Trek. Yeah, I know, you have you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Kurtsman ostensibly like you know, shepherding everything, but because they
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: are trying so many things, and like again, it's just
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: different approaches. There isn't that same kind of singular, coherent
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: sort of lens. It's a hey, do you want to
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: do a Star Trek show? What's your idea, And sometimes
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: you get a lower decks and sometimes you have a
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: section thirty one pilot that gets repurposed into a TV
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: movie like yeah, well, I mean.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Also, you know, different time frames and stuff too, as
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: opposed to in the nineties when we had TGDs nine
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: and then Voyager with the overlap and kind of seeing
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: the same timeframe but from different angles. That was a
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: different thing than we're getting, largely than what we're getting today.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And then if you watch any of the new shows,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: like just count how many producers are credited. It's like
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty for each episode.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: So that's a lot of people who want to put
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: their stamp on it, so then it muddles it as
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: opposed to a singular vision.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: So let me ask let me ask you guys something.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: This is something we've talked about a couple times over
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the years, something that I've harped on over the years,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and Matt, you touched on it. That TV is just
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: made differently now than it was ten, twenty thirty years ago.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm curious, I'm curious your opinion, both of you,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: your opinion on the Orville, because I really enjoyed that
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: show and watching that show while watching Discovery at the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: same time. When we were reviewing new episodes that you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: we would review two episodes, we would talk about Discovery,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and then at the end of the discussion we'd shift
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: and talk about the Orville for twenty minutes. Even though
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: this wasn't really an Orville show, and it's not really
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: a Star Trek show, but it is a Star Trek show.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, they use the old formula. They
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: they were shooting television today as if it was thirty
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: years ago, and I felt like it was working and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: it was working well and I and I just wish
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: more people in power noticed that. So I don't I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: just want to get your your thoughts on that, either
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: of you. Both of you. Yeah, no fair.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I was just like, well, being so polite.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I was just like, yeah, no, I totally agree with you.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, Matt, Yeah, no thanks. It's like I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: up two minds of it, because it is it in
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Star Trek two, where like Scotty's like complaining about like
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: you know, the young Whippersnappers and whatever, and you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: all the changes they made to the enterprise or maybe
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: and it's like, no, no, no, I know what it is.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: It's Star Trek three. It's when the first of the
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Excelsior for the first time was like, well that bucket
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: of bolts and blah blah blah blah. It's like new minds,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: new ideas, blah blah blah blah. Right, eight and I
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: both believe that it's like, yes, let's things change, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: that's okay, But like it's also okay if you have
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: your niche to like do something that is like that throwback,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Like I do think there is room for both. What
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: did grind my gears about the Orville a little bit?
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Wasn't the Orville itself. I don't know if you folks
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: know this, but the Internet is kind of toxic and
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: annoying and like the.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Discplace, I had not heard that.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so it's like Orville being used as a
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: cudgel to beat down starts are kind of annoying me.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: But also I get it because it's different, right, And
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: like I mean, pretty soon we're going to be the
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: target audience audience of CBS and we're going to get
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: you know, our version of like the Matt Luck reboot.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: We're gonna love it so.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Starfleet n C. I s yeah, exactly.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I'm shocked we didn't get that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Well, give it time, I mean, that's true. Yeah, that's
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: probably next up. Yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: So I also really love the Oriville, and I really
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: enjoyed the fact that Seth MacFarlane set out to basically
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: film it as if it was TNG. And that's not
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: just in the storytelling style and the writing, but in
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: the production design, in locking down the cameras more just
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: pretending like they're using big nineteen eighties cameras in a
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: lot of the scenes. And because I really enjoyed Discovery,
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: it's it is often a hot mess. And by the way,
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: I think season five of Discovery is where they finally
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: got everything sort of working. I at the same time,
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: I wasn't super excited about it. If I weren't doing
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: a podcast, I might not have been as quick to
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: watch it. I was happy that I did. But the
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: thing is is and Strange New Worlds is guilty of
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: this too, guilty you know, well, I'm coloring, You're gonna
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: see what I'm saying here. But the freneticism, the crazy
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: action oriented production design, I've got nothing against it when
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: it's appropriate I love it, It's just I don't need
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: that like all the time. And for my money, I
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: think my favorite Star Trek of the current era is
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: lower decks, and partly because they did do a modern
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: twist on old school Star Trek largely episodic. They the
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: way it was shot in film. The production design, even
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: though it was animated, was going for that kind of vibe,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: but with a modern flare, and of course shorter episodes
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: they're cramming a lot in so it is definitely more
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: high energy. But I am a big supporter of looking
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: back to some of those older shows and taking you
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: don't have to copy them. And it's hard to recapture
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: that era, right because we don't live in that era.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: All media is a product of its time, but that
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: doesn't mean it can't be influenced by it. And as
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: I mentioned, you know, we watched Tos and Voyager all
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: that stuff for our podcast and it's really great. I mean,
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: I love TOS, but sometimes you're watching you're like, I
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: can't belie how good the writing is, right, Like, despite
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: all the challenges they had, this story is just it
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: fits together so well and.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: It goes the other way too, though it goes the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: other way too, well, sure with cos uh, Scott's doing
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a rewatch and I am for the person.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: No, I'm not doing a rewatch. I'm doing a watch.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: It's tough.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: It's tough sometimes, oh yeah, And so I know some
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: of them are very tough.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, And that's you know, that's where we now have
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: modern production design and better sensibilities about certain things.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: And I'll never get used to a woman on the bridge.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that's that's sort of that sort of thing
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: that drops up. It's very interesting to sort of gauge
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: the spectrum of progressives and what was considered progressive in
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: in the nineteen sixties.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I think that that where we're at with
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: things right now. I think it feels like we're at
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: a reset, like they're trying to figure out their way. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you know, I think things like Legacy really took them
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: by surprise more so than they thought, and and they
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: don't know what to do with that at this point.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I know that Jerry Ryan has mentioned that she was
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: pitched a seven of nine series even after all the
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Legacy stuff, and she was like, no, we got to
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: do Legacy. That's what we that's the promise. So I
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: don't know why they're fighting that one as much.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: None of us get it. We've talked about it before.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: That's what everybody wants. That's what's gonna make them the
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: most money and get them the most eyeballs on the TVs.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I am curious to see what they do
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: with with with Academy.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: You know, yeah, a great because that's something that they've
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: been pushing around since before Star Trek six, you know, yeah,
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: back in the day he starts. He wanted Star Trek
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: six to be that starts flight Academy movie with just
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: the bookends of Shatner and Nimoy and and they were like, well.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Wonder if taking any of those old ideas repurpose then
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Shoot them a thousand years in the future.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just change them up a little bit. Yeah,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: That's that's It's another odd bird of a show because again,
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: on the one hand is like, okay, I don't know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: you know, I like the characters involved, I don't know
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: how excited are and but then on the other end,
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: they're hiring like Paul Giamani and these brilliant actors and
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: so that's how they keep getting you. They keep they
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: keep enticing you and saying like, Okay, well I'm at
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: least going to take a take a look at this thing.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the negative part of my brains like, oh,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: that's such a sad like statement of where the entertainment
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: industry is now, Like Holly Hunter has to do Starfleet
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Academy has to play a kooky alien engineer on Strange
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: New Worlds on a show, right, Ca.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I appreciate it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: For David Cronenberg's on Discovery, like what are you doing?
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: Which still blows my mind and I and I loved
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: him on it every moment. It's so amazing of all people, David, David,
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: what did you think of the review?
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: You haven't seen it?
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Never mind, I know, yeah that's Daniels. Yeah yeah yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: member marys for me in concept. But we'll see how
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: the execution.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: I was like when they referenced Enterprise, I liked that
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: they were doing it more. Yeah, especially at lower decks.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: I'm an Enterprise supporter from.
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: It's a lot better than people remember, especially when you
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: watch it again because it does have that flavor. It's
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: like that it's the pinnacle of all that, particularly like
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: the production design. It's still styrofoam rocks, but it's the
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: best HD styrofoam rocks from that period of Star Trek.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Right, They all the all the people, they figured out.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: How to do it, and then there was the break
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: and had to do a total reset because all those
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: people are all dead.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: All of them. They did the whole episode that somebody
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: got stabbed in the leg. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Say Patrick, to your point about you know, TV being
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: of its time and kind of like time travel and
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: things like that, if you ever knowalgic for the Bush era,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: just put on Enterprise.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: We talk about that a lot on our on our
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: show about when we're doing Enterprise, is that there's that
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: there's that interesting sort of cultural framing about what's going
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: on at the time, particularly season three.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So we did the survey. We had
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: people went over. We had three hundred and sixty respondents,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: which great, wow. Yeah, And so we asked people with
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: the currentcydents startoric, great and exciting, okay could be better?
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: New stuff isn't for me? Over half fifty one percent
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: said okay, could be better, which kind of feels about right.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's track.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was you know a little a little bit
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: more than third of saying that, you know, the new
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: stuff was exciting and they loved it, and you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: about eleven twelve percent is just not for them.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: The counterfactual, the counterfactual I wish we could investigate, is
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: if you ask this exact question in nineteen ninety five. Yeah,
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: I think think we'd get the exact same man. Maybe, yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: because I because I was there. Yeah, I remember the
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: us NEET forums and fighter and not all that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the yellow but the yellow people are the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: yellow people from nineteen ninety five are dead now.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's true, mostly by their own hand.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so sorry.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: So then we ask people what's your favorite news star,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: trek show or TV movie? There's the one TV movie overall,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: forty three percent said Lower Decks. Really yeah, lower Decks
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: got the got the highest just behind that was Strange
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: New Worlds. Sure, okay, the lowest one was Prodigy. Only
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: twelve people voted for Prodigy.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: That's because only twelve people saw it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think short tricks got any votes at all.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: They didn't.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I love short tracks, all of them. Yeah, I don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: like all of them. But I love the format that
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: is not being strained, you know.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the one complaint I heard about the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: survey was I couldn't answer multiple times, so I only
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: let people answer one.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Instead of instead of like a ranking, like a rank.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: How many votes did section thirty one get? I'm just
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: asking for a friend of mine also, yeah, got it?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So yeah, Discovery only got twenty two votes six percent.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of shocked by that. I would have thought
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: it would have been higher. But but they were all Scott.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: They were all Scott.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: Let's have nothing to do with anything. I would like
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: to interject the the the investigation for the previous polling
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: is still ongoing. So okay, one headway.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're still the strong beard.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, where's Pard on that list?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I forget If Picard was on that that list?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I can't No, it wasn't.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: The reason why I ask is you know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: How I how? I know because when I took it,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I got to this question, I said, what the ship man?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Well, I asked my part because I don't know about
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: you guys. When we cover Pricard, I think that's when
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: we got our biggest numbers internationally, right, yeah, in terms
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: of downloads, Like everyone was watching that show all over
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: the place, specifically, yeah, in particular season three. Yeah, but
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: you know which I mean, I enjoyed overall.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I android Picard.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, what's funny is I sent these questions to
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: everyone and nobody mentioned that is off the list.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: I think that says something right there, right, yeah, where
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: where it sort of fits in the in the brain space.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. And then the last question was in the
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: future I'd like to see and I just came up
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: with some scenarios either Starfleet Academy, more Strange New Worlds,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Strange New Worlds evolves into a TOS reboot. Kind of
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: feels like that's what's going on starting Legacy, a TG
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: reboot show or TV movie, something different with the new
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: crew that live action series and development with Tawny Newsome
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: and Star Trek needs to take a break. Kind of
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: scandershot answers. It was all over the place.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Really, it's two big ones. What the what are the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: green and the red there biggest.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: The biggest one is they want Star Trek Legacy. That's
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: six nearly twenty seven, about ninety seven people the second
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: one was more strange New Worlds at about twenty three percent.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: So, well, we all know, we all know the paramount
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: executives listen to this show in the past, they're they're
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: sitting in their own cars, in their own driveways. Let's
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: right to this part.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Yes, and that's why the green light section thirty two.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: That's right. But yeah, I like that the TOS reboot
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: idea only got three people.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I now, I'm I'm terrified if that that
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: that's the direction.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I've so that rumors come up a lot.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: I keep hoping it's false because I think that's where
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: I would I would find trouble.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: I bring it up on the show because I think
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: for us, that's the star trek we grew up with
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: like that in Das nine, like that era. So it
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: makes makes sense for the nostalgia bait. Hey, we're gonna
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: reboot TG Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just if you don't do it, like we
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: said earlier in the show, if you if you don't
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: do it to the right sensibility, right, and and can
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: we trust the people in charge who I respect, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm appreciative of the content they've produced, but I
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: don't know if I trust them to reboot TG, particularly
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: even what you see uh Picard season three, which is
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: the most well received. I enjoyed it, I still had
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: problems with it. I still think they made some pretty
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: silly choices. And you know, going back to the Borg
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: well for the billionth time, Uh yes, not that exciting
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: for me.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Like that the change lanes got the uh the tag
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: out in the middle of it and never see again.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: It was like, it was like such a clever idea
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: to start with Betty right right, and not to have
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: to relitergate that. The thing is is, do you really
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: if you reboot TNG, do you actually get TNG.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: No, you don't.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get something different. It's why bother.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: And it's the same thing with the TS Strange New
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Worlds going into TS it's another thing, is like, uh no,
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: can't we just enjoy Strange New Worlds for its own thing?
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: And then TOOS still is TOS, TAS is still you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't mind going back into those worlds,
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: especially when there's all this other unexplored territory. One of
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: the greatest disappointments of Section thirty one is it was
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: advertising we're going to go see h enterprise c era
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: type stuff that lost era where we don't know a
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: lot of what happened.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of lore you could explore there, and no.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: We've got a completely ridiculous and disconnected story where you
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: couldn't even tell which timeframe you were in at any given.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah it did matter.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was much argument about where it took place
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: in it. Yeah.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: Some thing. That's so frustrating because they have the ingredients
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: to make something we want, because I think the overall
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: consensus is we want uh, we want TNG era as
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: in uh, the card era. Okay, and they've got the
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: you know, well you just mentioned they've they've they're the
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: rebooting is they've already covered all this stuff. They've already
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: done a TNG let's not reboot it. They've already done
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: t S. Let's not reboot it. But they're doing a continuation.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: They could do a continuation and legacy. They could expand
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: on the things that we're already really excited about, Like
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: you know, we're we're digging the strange New World's storylines,
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: and we're really liking the timeline of a card learn
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: from that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: And it's also lower decks right, lower decks is a
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: little bit before card Era per card Era. Like, as
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: you said, people are excited about what's going on in
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: there and.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: And developing new lore.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: And then this idea again with section thirty one, that
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: particular product didn't maybe work out so well, but the
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: concept of a TV movie format where you can explore
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: parts that you maybe don't do a full investment initially
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: into a TV series or a feature film. But you know, man,
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: wouldn't it be great to get to get to see
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: some of these like corners of the of the franchise
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: explored that we really wouldn't be able to see otherwise
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: here focus on Klingons or what I don't know, you know, yeaheah.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: The opportunities are endless, and the audience is out there
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: ready to eat that shit right up right right.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: There's been some great Delta Quatter books, Voyager books about
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: you know, after Voyager, and so you know, maybe something
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: in that of that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: That'd be great, that'd be great.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: And you've got a lot of those sets built in
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: that uh what they call the holidack now and like
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: the volume, and you can you can repurpose stuff and
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: make those TV movies significantly cheaper than what they would
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: need to be really, and.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: If you make the stories good, you could. I mean,
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: you know, we just this week we just or discussing
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: the Drumhead for no particularly. Yeah, and that's it's basically
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: a bottle episode. It's brilliant, brilliant ribbon episode because the
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: story is good, the acting is good. You don't you
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: don't necessarily need to, you know, have the action sequences
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: fill it just filling up time and not doing anything
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: right right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Well, and to the point about TV somebody.
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: Warrant, yeah, no, But to the point about like TV movies,
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: it's like the scope and focus, Like I think that's
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: what you're talking about, Patrick, because it's like the Way
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: of the Warrior in d S nine essentially.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Was a TV movie. It aired both parts at once
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: and then they chopped it up for syndication later.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: So it's you know, it does the insurrection thing where
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: it's like a super long episode, but it has that scope,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: it has that focus. It's part of like the greater
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: like narrative as opposed to, hey, let's suicide squad, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: like put star treks.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, so bad.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they saw Star.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Trek Renegades on YouTube, and they're like, we should actually
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: make this.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Renegades would have been better.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Dan looks like, uh, at the start of Apocalypse. Now, now,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: as I mentioned Renegades, it's just like the fan.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Going to the helicopter the name off women and children.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Watch in the mirror.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Well, we just did a watch of that was Renegades, right, yeah, yeah,
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: we just did a watch of Renegades.
• 46:45
  Speaker 12: Uh for last week or the week before, and.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I did a watch of the first half of Renegades. Yeh.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Dan discovered you can watch things at two time speed.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I should have done that. I might have
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: got through the whole thing.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's kind of where we're at. We
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: don't have any hard numbers to really say what's successful
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: what isn't. I mean, you can look at other things too,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: like the merchandising. You know, Playmates tried to revive the
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Star Trek toys and that quickly crash and burn. But
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: now you've got other companies doing them so well they
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: do better as a more Niche aimed at the collectors.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe I know right now toy Faar is going on
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: and Nassell debuted some of the figures with price points.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: They're like about twenty eight bucks twenty seven to ninety
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: five or something like that, about twenty eight dollars for
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: the new figures and they're supposed to be great and
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: they look fantastic.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they look good. Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Well we have the CEO of Miss l Yeah, yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: we had them on and he also.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: Did the shows on Netflix, the movie that made us
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: and stuff, and so they're doing different different characters and
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: different different figures and stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, are they going to do like six different way
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: uns but you know they all look the same.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: But just buy six of the you just buy six.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Of the.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Price differently depending on which way.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And it was, So here's here's here's a question.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: We have.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: We have guests, gentlemen, right, guests today. One of the
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: figures that uh Nacelle is doing is two vix. So
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: since we have guests here, I have to ask you
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: to get Matt. Matt's staring at the ceiling because this
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: is like here it comes.
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: Oh great, that means he gets to go first.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: So I guess my question is, would you agree, like
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: any rational person would, that t X was murdered by
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Captain Jane Waye.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: No, you see, I'm a feminist and I support women
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: and decisions.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: His body, my choice.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: Wow, all right, yeah, I actually, uh, man, we we did.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know last year we did two bis. I
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: can't remember. It wasn't too long ago.
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: I I don't disagree that she totally murdered two vis.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I agreed that she should have.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: But it's it's not an easy philosophical question, as many
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: ridiculous sci fi philosophical.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Questions, not easy to answer, but but it is.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, and I'm my question of course, you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: and I'm not the first person to ask. This is
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: like what happened to the flower?
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: Remember the because it was two vix was three DNA
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: strands flowers. Yeah, and when they separated it, I don't
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: know where the flower DNA went.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Is that still in both Newlix and Tuo Vix. Are
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: they dealing with that?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Did they?
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: Exactly right. You figured that out a little bit. He's like,
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: why do I have that?
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Why am I?
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Buddy?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: But that's it. Yeah, that's all they reproduce.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that episode is thirty five years old. At
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: this point, people are and people and people are still
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: talking about it, and so the question is, do you
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: think thirty years from now people are going to be
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: talking about Discovery.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Nope, Yeah, it depends.
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to I'm trying to think of something that
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: jumps out.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: And I enjoyed the fair but you know, and part
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: of it, I'm sorry.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. The low hanging fruit of that is like,
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: yes they will because we've got to Strange in the
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: world's because of Discovery season two. But that's the you know.
• 50:45
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: But again, so my point with that is it goes
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: back to the non episodic nature of some of these
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: modern shows, where I can remember things that happened on Discovery,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: but to ask me what episode it happened in, or
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: what the name of that episode was, Yeah, maybe even
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: what season, I can't tell you.
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: I agree, I tell you that I would say, and
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: I've argued this for a while now that as much
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: as I enjoy and I do enjoy serialized storytelling, I
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: really am hopeful that Star Trek will continue to move
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: away from this, and it seems to be to a
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: certain degree. Again, Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds have
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: done this well. I think a good balance because and
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: you know, Dan, you make such a great point, like
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: you're watching Picard. One of the flaws in Picard, even
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: season three is that because they're telling a story that
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: has to have you know, ups and downs and dey
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: neu maws and all that other stuff spaced out of
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: the season, particular episodes have weird like the multiple plot threads,
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: like you're like this tonally doesn't work with this, but
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: they have to say it now because they have to
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: set up what's going to happen in the next episode
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: or two, you know, And it's very complicated to do well,
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: and I frankly think they often didn't do it well,
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: even if we're still enjoying it. It's in spite of
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: not because of how it's structured. With the episodic, it's
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: much easier to be like that's a good episode, that's
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: a bad episode or whatever. And as a podcaster, right
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: when we're jumping around, it's so wonderful to just be like, oh,
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: we'll just pluck We'll just do this episode from season
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: four of TNG and everyone's happy. You can't do that
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: with Discovery, you can't do that with Picard. I'm curious
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: what it'll be with with Starfleet Academy, because it's.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Like, how do you go you can't.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: It was like, oh, yeah, let's just do Let's just
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: talk about Discovery Season two, episode three this week.
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: It's going to be meaningless to the people who haven't
• 52:36
  Speaker 13: watched it all recently. Right, I watch a lot of
• 52:38
  Speaker 13: Star Trek nowadays on Pluto. I watch whatever happens to
• 52:42
  Speaker 13: be on on those three channels that they have. So
• 52:44
  Speaker 13: often my wife will walk in the room and she's
• 52:48
  Speaker 13: not a big trecky, but she's seen TNG Deep Space
• 52:51
  Speaker 13: nine voyage or she saw them once once through when
• 52:54
  Speaker 13: we were dating, and that was fifteen, almost twenty years ago. Right,
• 52:58
  Speaker 13: she walked in yesterday said, oh, is this the one
• 53:01
  Speaker 13: where the Ferengi were in Roswell?
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Little Green Men? And that was yes, Little Green Men.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: And so that was someone who watched the show once
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and yes, they could remember individual episodes.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: And I just don't think that happens with the serialized storytelling.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: I agree, but no, and you don't get the character development,
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: you know. I was just thinking, I don't know anything
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: about the Discovery crew and I couldn't even name half
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: of them. You know, I can tell you background, detailed
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: background about Deep Faced nine Voyager next Generation. I can
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: tell you where they were born. I can tell you
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: experiences they had at the academy. I can tell you
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: about their parents. A lot of characters parents, I can
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: tell you about their parents.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: Characters supporting characters. You can do that work off characters.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: You will know some of that information.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's true, I think too. One of the
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: big things missing right now is the philosophical debates like
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: the two weeks to be like, yeah, we don't get
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: those man and serialized or episodic either way, it doesn't matter,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: like you, that kind of stuff is missing, that that
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: soul of Star Trek.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: But I agree, Oh sorry Patrick, you no, yeah, no, Well,
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: Duet's a good, very good example of the type of
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: thing where it's such a such an important episode in
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: a brilliant episode. I do think I think we got
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: the closest to that, uh on Lower Decks. I think
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: Lower Decks did tackle some of those things. However, a
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: limitation of Lower Decks it is going for a more whimsical,
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: funny you know, That's that's their goal, so that even
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: when they have that fun little moral quandary.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: It's quick, it's simple, it's not.
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: It doesn't go as deep as a duet or the
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Drumhead or last week we did Inquisition talking about the
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: origin of Section thirty one and just the concept of
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: shadowy government agencies, you know, that sort of thing, and
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: it's it's it's that's one of the most important things
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: that sci fi exists for is giving a space to
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: examine some of those ideas somewhat removed from our current reality,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: because sometimes it's just too difficult to try to parse
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: all that out. Put it on a space station. Put
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: it on a space ship, and you can think about
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: it better. And I agree, I think we get we
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: get less of that with Discovery and Picard. They pretend
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: like they're doing it, but it's so surface level. And
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: and and because of the structures of the shows being
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: stretched out over the season, like you're not going to
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: make a moral point of the course of ten ten
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: or people, that's not it's not.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Really it's too long.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's why Lower Decks was the number one show
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: for people, because it was it's got a little bit
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: of that in there. So I don't Yeah, Flavor Sean says,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: I think the soul startic died with the last episode of.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: What Do you mean demons in Tara Prime? Is that those.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Nice? Well we should probably get to our listener feedback.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: So let's get to.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: That listener feedback.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: All right, So we do have some voicemails to play,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: really yeahs, yes, no, no, no, I'll play the first one.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: This is from Steve, So here we go.
• 56:23
  Speaker 14: Hey, fellas, this is Steve and so then Illinois. I
• 56:28
  Speaker 14: wanted to weigh in really quick. I'm here at work,
• 56:31
  Speaker 14: but I heard you were call to action, So I'm
• 56:34
  Speaker 14: gonna tell you what I think of Star Trek. I
• 56:38
  Speaker 14: love Star Trek. I used to dress up as Star
• 56:40
  Speaker 14: Trek in high school, and I play an awesome game
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: called Starfleet Battles, which is a great strategic simulation.
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: For Star Trek.
• 56:50
  Speaker 14: Heard Star Trek doesn't speak to me, and I have
• 56:54
  Speaker 14: four boys, and what kills me is that it's the
• 56:57
  Speaker 14: content is just not appropriate for my sons, who range
• 57:02
  Speaker 14: from a junior.
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: In high school down to.
• 57:04
  Speaker 14: A third grader.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: Old Star Trek.
• 57:07
  Speaker 14: You can watch that show any of the shows with
• 57:10
  Speaker 14: any of your kids, and you don't ever have to
• 57:12
  Speaker 14: feel worried about it. Everything is copasetic, everything's awesome. It's
• 57:17
  Speaker 14: great and exciting. New Star Trek. I always have to
• 57:20
  Speaker 14: be wondering every episode, what are they going to do
• 57:23
  Speaker 14: that's maybe not that is not appropriate for a Midwestern family,
• 57:27
  Speaker 14: And that's my I think my biggest concern, or my
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: biggest complaint is they've they've lost side of perhaps what
• 57:38
  Speaker 14: people what made Star Trek Trek and what people like
• 57:40
  Speaker 14: about Star Trek. So that's my thoughts, and thanks for
• 57:45
  Speaker 14: keeping the show going.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Chat is wrong.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Wow, it's nice to go. Calls in.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I want to know.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: I want to know how you dress up as Star
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: Trek as like as the.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Franchise or starting credits.
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: There's some embarrassing photos of me.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: High school, Like did he go to school every day
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: dressed like Start Treking? He attended conventions.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: When he was a school That's true?
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because I mean most part family friendly stop day.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite uniforms by far.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: You know your audio.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: Yes, oh yeah yeah unless your kids walk in. You know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: the Siege of ar five eighty eight, or when crushers
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: having sex with a ghost's weird, but or when Shatner
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: is just smacking a woman around, right yeah, falling in
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: love with the robot.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just happy we have the upper story. Just
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: you talk about discoveries cling on like full front hall
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: like that was oh yeah, that was a very like
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: a foundational moment for me something.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: So they do have that Lower Decks episode where Boemler
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: is uh, you know, exposing quite a bit that that's
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: true the block. But my my son really enjoyed that.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: If I ever if I ever start a band, I
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: think full frontal cling on going to that's fantastic. What
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: did Mariner call that?
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: She looked at the She called it a boom window.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Were very not to get too personal on the podcast,
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: but they're very foundational for me.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate Scott strokes his beard. Yeah, yes, I remember, yes,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: all right, we got another voicemail. Let me play that.
• 59:55
  Speaker 12: Oh I hopeing this is the trick cast line, since
• 59:58
  Speaker 12: guy's poor voicemails, So here's a trick cast man. And
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 12: since this is the crossover episode, I'm thinking Paddy the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 12: Bear and a Moopsie and Patty gets the Moopsie to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 12: stop sucking bones like Wildlife, the encounter be an interesting movie.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 12: All I got.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: That's all I got.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite voicemail ever.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: And I like the particularly the sucking bones that the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: tone in the second second bones.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: The last guy, the last guy is not gonna let
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: his kids listen to our podcast, not anymore? Stop bones.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: What if convinced Paddington to start sucking bones? Like, what
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: if it was the inverse? Oh yeah, if you're kind
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: of polite, sucking bones will be right, right.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if I'm not sure human blood, I'm.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Not sure we're all talking about the same things.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Goes on in London. You know, London's pretty intense.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: It's not normal.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: So sorry to the first voicemail.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: All right, we got a couple of people on the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: line too that want to chat. So let's bring in
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: hipster Spock and then yeah, hey, he's what's going on? Man?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Oh there, guys, Hey.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 15: Thanks for the crossover thing.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: This is pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty fun.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 16: It's good to listen to other people other than these
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 16: these three uh bones.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Vulcome are notoriously honest.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 16: No, no, guys, I'm just joking.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: It's cool.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Now, a couple of things.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 16: First of all, this serialized television, Yeah, I don't really
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 16: like it. Remember the stupid burn from a discovery That
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 16: was stupid?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 16: And and then the thing is when when you get
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 16: into and then most of those things end up being
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 16: stupid h mystery boxes, which ends up being a complete disappointment,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 16: and you just and then they never know how to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 16: end it in a very satisfying way. I mean, yeah,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 16: just not very good. So uh and then they if
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 16: the if the story art ends up being stupid, they
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 16: they pinned themselves into a corner and then it's very
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 16: difficult to get out of it, and so yeah, it's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 16: not not worth it. I like the strain two worlds
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 16: a thing where everything's different, so it's a lot easier
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 16: or a lot more likely to have good episodes where
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 16: or or you know, bright spots during the for the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 16: season that can salvage the season rather than just you know,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 16: throwing that season into the dumpster, you knows.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: As you mentioned, it makes me think that part of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: the benefit of that is like when it's episodic, if
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: there's a bad idea, it's fine, it's one episode.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Which still do that again, yeah, right.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: But when it's serialized, if it's a bad idea, that's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: the whole season.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 15: Absolutely, And then you've got to realize that Star Trek
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 15: used to be written by good professional science fiction writers, right,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 15: These days.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: They are written by amateurs.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I Whage is making a lot more money than any
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: of us.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: It's still amateurs.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: I really think the point about the structure is an
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: important one because there are episodes of Tang that are terrible,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: but they'll have that one scene between Jordy and Data
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: that's like really important, and so it's no, it's not
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: you still get you get that enjoyment. I'm not gonna
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: go There's there's wonderful scenes in Discovery that I'm not
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: going to see for a long time because I'm not
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: going to watch the whole season, right, just to catch
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: those three or four kind of interesting.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the one chapter in the book that's the whole season. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: We talked about this recently, where there's certain B storylines
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: that are there's certain episodes where I remember the B
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: storyline from that episode and when it comes up, you know, oh,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: this is the one where Troy can't pass the commander
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: exam because she won't order Jordy to his death, And
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: when it comes up in my rewatch cycle, it's a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: reminder that, oh, this is also the one where Data
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: was stuf on the planet with amnesia.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, that's the thing.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 16: Oh, one more question, When are they going to release
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 16: the two picks files?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 17: Yeah, hopefully that's that's like the Galaxy's biggest question when
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 17: you release the tiles.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: You know, I'm doing a voyager rewatch right now, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: I'm I'm just I've been thinking about, like, you know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: the debrief that Jane Way would get when you know
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: she was, you know, got back to Federation headquarters, and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: I'm just imagining like the admiral saying, yeah, you know,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: this is day nine of the debrief, and the admiral says, uh,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: sit down, Captain Jane Way. I just got to this
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: point in your log.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: So you kill the guy?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Was the guy was going around there? My friends? You're
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: my friends? Please save me?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: Why is there a JAG officer here?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: I stand by my You know that that was pretty good, Scott,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: that was good.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: If she's not available for Legacy, I mean you could
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: probably step right Prodigy the next game, Prodigy season three.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Now, what's the more awkward conversation that Jamie has some debrief?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: Is it the two mixed question or is it so
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: you turn into a salamander And like, oh.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: My god, I I listened to right there.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: I listened to the Voyager Rewatch podcast with the Robert,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: Robbie McNeil and Garrett and yeah they talk about threshold
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: quite a bit.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well thanks for being on Hipsterspock.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 16: Thanks guys keeping.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: And then we also have got Jazz was on the line,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: so let me bring him in.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be an episode of treck Cast without chasmiss
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: exactly exactly.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: The area is. What's going on?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Not much?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 18: How's everybody you doing?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Good?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Great?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Thanks?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Were you off vacationing?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 16: Now?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: I have the in laws here.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 18: Okay, I'm in another ring.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, Star Trek Cast Merch the half.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: It promoting.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: So what do you think? How do you think the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: how's start Trek going for you?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 18: I think it's dying. I think if I do, yeah,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 18: because if Academy doesn't hit good, then it's dead. You know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 18: they'll be the death now. So that's it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Now, here's a question for you.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: Now, when you say dead, do you mean they stopped
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: producing stuff or do you mean they produce increasingly less?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: I think good.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 18: Shelve it for a couple of years and then eventually
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 18: reboot it.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: If that's the case, I hope you're right, because my
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: concern is this era of squeezing every penny out of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: every I.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: P which I'm worried about James Bond now, for example,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: that even even as it's yeah, but.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: Even even as it's doing worse, they're like, well, we
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: can still just keeping the ship to these people.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: And then it's truly gone.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 18: You know, it's like, let's make a money penny show.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Let's make this.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 18: Show, let's make something of specter, let's make you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 18: and they're just gonna merchandise the crap out of it,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 18: and people won't care.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: And I know what they're doing. I know what they're doing.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: They're they're taking they're taking the DNA, they're taking the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: DNA of old shows.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's let's do let's do this one.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's pour it into the other one.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: You know, there's the sort of right.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 18: Then it becomes Jurassic Park World and they start making
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 18: new dinosaurs because dinosaurs are born, so we have to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 18: make super dinosaurs with the other dinosaurs. And then they
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 18: have to go craziers aren't cool anymore. We have to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 18: like splice them and make them crazy.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Ten years from now, it's gonna be like, all right,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: the dinosaurs in space.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: Yes, the game and they're gonna have the Fastes the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: Furious director do it.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: I cannot wait for that crossover, the Faster and Furious
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: and Dinosaurs bring.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Rex is going around and asking everyone that
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: their friends and not killing it. Would you splice it
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: and turn it back into a raptor and a t Rex?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: Or would you leave it together?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 16: Jazz?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: That's what I really want.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: To know, big moral.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 18: I think I do the Janeway. You'd have to take
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 18: them back, you know, I agree with Janeway.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Murderers murder. She's a murderer.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 18: I wonder how many finals that Janeway scrubbed when she
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 18: got that. That's probably like Tubac lost his memory because
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 18: she did something to him.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: She she deleted Fairhaven just as they were pulling it
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: to San Francisco.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: Nobody needs to know about.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: This reboot their wife, bring their wife back.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Factory factory settings restored.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Clear browser history.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jean, what do you think about the audio play
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: that we're gonna be getting at some point, I'll.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 18: Listen to it two times speed, so.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: I'm sure that's all most people listen to this podcast.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I listened to most podcasts.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 18: Actually, well usually if I wake up too like, I'll
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 18: play you guys two times speed just to catch up, okay,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 18: and I'll be like five minutes behind by kind of
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 18: what you guys said. So it's kind of funny seeing
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 18: Dan in the vand and you know, everything going crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome, jas Well, thanks for being on.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks pal, Yeah, thank you all right.
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  Speaker 2: And and thank you to our our voicemail callers today.
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  Speaker 2: We have had a voice voicemail in a while. It
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  Speaker 2: was nice. It's nice to get to so guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then let's see uh yeah, So that's pretty
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  Speaker 4: much wrapping it up. You guys want to talk about
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  Speaker 4: your shows real quick before we head out. Where to
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  Speaker 4: find you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's it's pod Race that start Trek Deep
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  Speaker 5: Space nine podcasts. You can find us on where you
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  Speaker 5: get your podcasts. We also have an Instagram and I
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  Speaker 5: think at least made a Blue Sky for us as well.
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  Speaker 5: If you want to find me specifically, it's at Maddie
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  Speaker 5: Hugh on Blue Sky in letterbox.
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  Speaker 3: Great and uh yeah, it's got Star Trek.
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  Speaker 6: It's got Star Trek podcast www dot.
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  Speaker 3: It's got star Trek dot com.
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  Speaker 6: We try to keep it easy at it's got star
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  Speaker 6: Trek on all the socials.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and we're we're at.
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  Speaker 6: All most of those social media places. But Blue Sky
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  Speaker 6: has been particularly interesting lately and there's been a lot
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  Speaker 6: of engagement over there. But we're also on masted on
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  Speaker 6: threads all that stuff. So, uh, come come join us,
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  Speaker 6: come check us out. If you like this show, good
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  Speaker 6: chance you might find some entertainment. Yeah, we'd love to
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  Speaker 6: have you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, awesome. Well yeah, that's pretty much wrapping it up.
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  Speaker 4: So well, guys, we'll see you next time. All right. Great,
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  Speaker 4: thanks guys, Yeah, really great to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
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