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What's Too Personal in A Rap Battle? · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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Speaker 1: Coming up. On this week's episode of Hip Hop Now podcast,
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Speaker 1: ron Fest says Eminem called him the N word during
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Speaker 1: the rap battle in the nineties, but it was cool.
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Speaker 1: My thoughts on the new Wu Tang Clan and Mathematics album,
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Speaker 1: Black Samson, the Bested Swordsman and Nad says, trying to
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Speaker 1: write a song he could call his favorite is what
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Speaker 1: stories from. Let's get ready into the business now. So
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Speaker 1: quite honestly, I stumbled across this story doing what I
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Speaker 1: said earlier just on I think I was on tip Talk.
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Speaker 1: Hold up, it's not even working, okay, I was on
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Speaker 1: TikTok and Doom scrolling right TikTok. I follow a lot
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Speaker 1: of sports, so typically that's you know, I'm kind of
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Speaker 1: absorbing short form videos as it relates to sports. But
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of hip hop joints sprinkled in there,
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Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes they will reference something you
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Speaker 1: might like. So I saw the title first and it
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Speaker 1: was said it said rom Fest stands that Eminem called
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Speaker 1: him the N word during a rap battle in the nineties. Now,
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Speaker 1: first I was like what, so, well, two things right, First,
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Speaker 1: I'm like he did and he like didn't get stomped out.
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Speaker 1: And then two, the fact that Eminem was battling rhym
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Speaker 1: Fest was crazy because I was just like, words like
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Speaker 1: I would love to have heard that. So I watched
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Speaker 1: the interview and let me see if I could find
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Speaker 1: real quick where it was. This was him appearing on
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Speaker 1: the podcast. It's just my opinion, but this is coming
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Speaker 1: from Hip Hop DX, and this is me quoting ron
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Speaker 1: Fest from that interview. I battled Eminem in ninety eight
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Speaker 1: at this competition called Scribble Jam in Cincinnati. It was
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Speaker 1: the biggest battle in the Midwest and one of the
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Speaker 1: biggest rap battles in the country, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: famous rappers, DJs, and break dancers came out of Scribble Jam.
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Speaker 1: I battled Eminem and that was the first time a
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Speaker 1: white guy ever called me a N word. He said,
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Speaker 1: Now now they're quoting him as nigga. Right, I'll let
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Speaker 1: my raise This is what Eminem said to him. I'll
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Speaker 1: let my razors split you to they have to staple
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Speaker 1: stitch you. This N word took my facial tissue, turned
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Speaker 1: it into a racial itch issue. Bromfast said to that,
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Speaker 1: to hearing that you couldn't even be mad. I realized
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Speaker 1: something about racism that day. Is why family God works.
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Speaker 1: It's only good when it's funny. It's only it only
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Speaker 1: is non offensive when it's dope. Had you said that
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Speaker 1: Ish and it's not dope. It would have been a problem,
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Speaker 1: but you so cold and courageous that you did it
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Speaker 1: and got away with it. But when I say I
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Speaker 1: won that battle, he won the war. So you could
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Speaker 1: check this out. As a matter of fact. I saw
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Speaker 1: the clip through the Art of dialogue, I believe, posted
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Speaker 1: it on social media and I watched that. Now, how
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Speaker 1: do I feel about it? How do you feel about it?
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Speaker 1: Leave your comments in the common section below. I know
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Speaker 1: some people they don't care if you saying the hard
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Speaker 1: er Paul's I guess or the uh G the g
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Speaker 1: g A version of it. Now, ron Fest here is
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Speaker 1: saying he meant it in the way to say the
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Speaker 1: ni g g A, right, That's how he pronounced it.
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Speaker 1: So I think that's more why he got away with it, right.
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Speaker 1: Some people don't play with you at all with any
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Speaker 1: of it, any spelling, any version, right. But I think
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Speaker 1: that's what like kept everybody hands at bay, and the
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Speaker 1: fact that it was a slick line, right, because I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking because ron Fest didn't say this so, or at
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Speaker 1: least I didn't see it in the clip, I'm thinking
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Speaker 1: he said something your white boy, go back, white boy,
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Speaker 1: blah blah, and that was Eminem's rebuttal, right, So it
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Speaker 1: is slick, it is cold. Ron Fest says he wants
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Speaker 1: won the battle, which I could believe. Ron Fest is dope,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, especially talking ninety eight and
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Speaker 1: him saying Eminem won the wars, like, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: look at him as an MC and as a successful
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Speaker 1: rapper versus rom Fest, which isn't a knock on ron
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Speaker 1: Fest at all. It's just sometimes it plays out like that. Right,
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Speaker 1: that's like a street baller who gets the best of
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Speaker 1: an NBA player. But that's Kobe Bryant, right, Like you
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Speaker 1: crossed up Kobe. Cool, but that's Kobe. He's doing it
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Speaker 1: on a level that you aren't able to achieve. So
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Speaker 1: I think I felt more of a way about the
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Speaker 1: audio that Benzeno linked a couple of years ago where
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Speaker 1: Eminem had like a black girlfriend and she dumped him
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Speaker 1: or cheated on him or something like that, and he
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Speaker 1: made this hate filled fueled rhyme as a teenager, and
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Speaker 1: I just didn't like what he was saying. I didn't
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Speaker 1: care what age he was blah blah blah. I just
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Speaker 1: was not feeling it. And he obviously he apologized and
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Speaker 1: he didn't really even talk about, you know, I was
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Speaker 1: He didn't make an excuse as you know, I was
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Speaker 1: a teenager and blah blah blah, and I'm stupid and
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Speaker 1: I was young, and I was hurt, and I wanted
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Speaker 1: to make her feel pain in the deepest way possible.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I came up with. But I think
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Speaker 1: apologized for something that you did as a teenager, because
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. I know there's some
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Speaker 1: high horse people. I know some of y'all were perfect
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Speaker 1: from day one and continue to remain perfect on social
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Speaker 1: media and all of that. But I know I did it,
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Speaker 1: said some terrible things, terrible things that I would never
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Speaker 1: say today. And if I was and if I ever
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Speaker 1: hurt somebody, whatever would have been, I would apologize it.
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Speaker 1: There's not even enough of an apology I could make
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Speaker 1: at that point in time. So I forgave him after
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Speaker 1: a while, because at the end of the day, you
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Speaker 1: can't kill people who understand their mistakes, right. You got
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Speaker 1: to give people a time to come back. And it's
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Speaker 1: just not for eminem and a racial issue. I'm just
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Speaker 1: talking about in general, like you can't some people. Some
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Speaker 1: people deserve it. Some people definitely deserve to go down
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Speaker 1: getting stomped on. But that's kind of how I feel
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Speaker 1: about Kanye. I feel like Kanye needs help. I feel
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Speaker 1: like he's looking for the thing that will get people
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Speaker 1: most rouled up. It's almost like he wants to be
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Speaker 1: broke again in order to feel whole again. Mars, But
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Speaker 1: that's what it feels like, right, He's gonna say whatever
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Speaker 1: gets people to look at me in headlines and me
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Speaker 1: dropping an album, and I just keep saying stuff and
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Speaker 1: you just know something's wrong. So this whole situation with
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Speaker 1: rom Fest and Eminem, I think is a non situation,
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Speaker 1: mainly because the crowd mostly didn't react, according to ron
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Speaker 1: Fest in a way that felt like they were offended,
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Speaker 1: and him saying you know when it's funny means I
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Speaker 1: think everybody laughed it, laughed it off. But also he
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Speaker 1: was saying it to rom Fest, So if he didn't
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Speaker 1: take offense to it in that moment, and we're not
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Speaker 1: talking about well, you know, rom Fest, they take offense
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Speaker 1: to it because he wanted an opportunity with Eminem to
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Nah, we ain't talk about the same cat.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about, like eminem blew up after this. We're
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Speaker 1: talking about spitters getting in a battle, in a battle,
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Speaker 1: not a beef. I wish you young cats would stop
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Speaker 1: saying a beef. Just go listen to Biggie's song off
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Speaker 1: a Life after Death. What's beef? Listen to what he's saying.
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Speaker 1: Listen to just the hook. Even if you feel like
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Speaker 1: this is old, I don't want to hear it, Listen
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Speaker 1: to just the hook. Those are beefs Awaiian tell you
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Speaker 1: to move from that corner and you don't, and they
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Speaker 1: blaze at you, you blaze back. I don't know. Blaze
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Speaker 1: is like a pause word, and I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: just didn't want to say the other word on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: But beef is beef. Let's not substitute the word battle.
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Speaker 1: That's been a part of hip hop for more than
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Speaker 1: fifty years, for beef because of you know what what happened,
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Speaker 1: you know, Big and pot like all of this stuff,
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Speaker 1: just they turned everything into a beef. Now it's and
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Speaker 1: jay Z. It didn't necessarily have a beef. You can say, oh,
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Speaker 1: well they have a beef with with each other because
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Speaker 1: they don't like each other. Yeah, sure, but what's happening
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Speaker 1: is a rap battle, like that's what it is. So
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Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you feel about Eminem using
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Speaker 1: the N word in that context, in that setting during
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Speaker 1: the battle, do you feel like in battle rap personals
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Speaker 1: is par for the course. And you've heard people talk
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Speaker 1: about opponent's dead parents, locked up parents, people being snitches,
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Speaker 1: all kind of personals thrown at each other. Where it
15:31
Speaker 1: was a couple of times things get they get risky,
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Speaker 1: but they typically don't get out of hand in rap
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Speaker 1: battles when you're throwing personals. Depending on what he said, Now,
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Speaker 1: if Eminem would have said, what's the dude from Seinfeld
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Speaker 1: who thought he was doing a bit? You know, if
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Speaker 1: this was back in the day he said this to
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Speaker 1: a heckler while he was on stage. You know, if
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Speaker 1: it was back in the days, you're being chained and
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Speaker 1: it was like he was lucky that black man was
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Speaker 1: holding it down because in any other setting it would
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Speaker 1: have been hands and feet next story. So if you
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Speaker 1: don't know, not that long ago, Boss Riza, And that's
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Speaker 1: how I heard it. I don't know if there was
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Speaker 1: another official announcement before that, but how I heard it,
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Speaker 1: Rizza announced there would be a new Wu Tang Clan
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Speaker 1: album in twenty twenty five, people rejoiced, got hyped. I
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Speaker 1: personally got hyped because I had just finished listening to
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Speaker 1: Rizzi's interview with Rick Ross, which was fantastic. I know
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Speaker 1: some people have watched rizzido interviews, but I think he
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Speaker 1: was a little bit more transparent with his thoughts in
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Speaker 1: the history of the Wu and you know, things he's
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Speaker 1: done because he was talking to Reck Rubin, and so
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Speaker 1: I felt I found it fascinated. It was like two
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Speaker 1: hours or so, and I listened to all of it,
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Speaker 1: you know, which I typically don't do when it comes
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Speaker 1: to audio podcast. I just be like, all right, dog,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a listen to one hour and then
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Speaker 1: I might come back for another hour of this podcast.
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Speaker 1: But later on him announcing that the Woo would have
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Speaker 1: a new album, it was just the way he said it.
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Speaker 1: I was like, the Woo is back, maybe this time
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Speaker 1: would be better. But then he said, and this was
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Speaker 1: in a follow up joint, a follow up press release
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Speaker 1: or whatever or interview, he said Mathematics would be doing
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Speaker 1: the production, and I was like, well, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: riz is announcing a Riza the master behind the sound
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Speaker 1: of Wu Tang plan since nineteen ninety three, asterid solo
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Speaker 1: albums Wu Tang albums in particular, is announcing a new
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Speaker 1: Wu Tang album, but he's not on the boards for
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Speaker 1: all of it. Now, I know to some Wu Tang
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Speaker 1: faples like, well, it's not a Wu Tang album. It's
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Speaker 1: not something I want to hear. If Riza ain't on
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Speaker 1: the boards, I don't want to hear it. And I
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Speaker 1: feel you because I felt a little bamboozooed. But then
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Speaker 1: I remembered recent Wu Tang clan group albums from Mathematics
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Speaker 1: are better than recent Wu Tang clan albums produced by Rizen.
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Speaker 1: That's all facts we've seen it. Probably more so like
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Speaker 1: I'm the type where the W was cool, Like, well,
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Speaker 1: let's just go through it bro quick, right thirty six
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Speaker 1: we already know certified classic Wu Tang forever, probably a
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Speaker 1: classic to most. Also all Risen. You know that first
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Speaker 1: suite of solo albums from clan members, iconic beats, all
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Speaker 1: different from each other, from Riza to Raycon to ODB
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Speaker 1: to method man Rizza. But then as the group albums
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Speaker 1: started to go on, things started to get a little shifty.
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Speaker 1: Right the W I wasn't the biggest fan of the
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Speaker 1: w But it was cool, right. I felt like Rizza
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Speaker 1: was going he was going places that musically, I was
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Speaker 1: just kind of like, I don't know if I like this.
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Speaker 1: But then Iron Flag, which I thought more people liked
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Speaker 1: when it came out. I thought it was cool, was
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Speaker 1: a good album to me. But then the Wu Tang
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Speaker 1: albums took a noseedive after that. And I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: the official Riza backed albums like eight Diagrams and Better
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow not good, not good at all. And I remember
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Speaker 1: like convincing my trying to convince myself that, yo, you
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Speaker 1: kind of sleeping on you know where Rizz's trying to
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Speaker 1: go with the production. This is the Wu Tang client
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Speaker 1: this is official Rizi did the Beats. Let's go nah Man.
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Speaker 1: I listen to those albums so many times trying to
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Speaker 1: find something good in it. I just had to realize
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Speaker 1: it wasn't but Mathematics who has been producing for the
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Speaker 1: WU and WU members throughout the years, for example one
20:43
Speaker 1: I use that always make you know, hip hop heads
20:48
Speaker 1: who want to argue otherwise you know, he did ghost Faces,
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Speaker 1: Mighty Healthy, Awful, Supreme clientele, and a lot of people
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Speaker 1: think because Rizzo was involved as an excutive producer. Rizzin
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Speaker 1: ain't doing all the beats on Supreme clientele, Like a
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Speaker 1: lot of the beats that I thought he did, he
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Speaker 1: didn't do, you know what I'm saying. And Mathematics did
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Speaker 1: Mighty Healthy Right, which is one of ghost faces dopest
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Speaker 1: songs in his catalog. But more importantly, the last Woo
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Speaker 1: Tang project produced by Mathematics was I Believe Once upon
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Speaker 1: a Time in Shahlann, which I felt like was kind
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Speaker 1: of slept on because it wasn't produced by Riza. Album
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Speaker 1: cover was dope, features were dope, beats were cool, like
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Speaker 1: it felt like the woo that you're looking for. As
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Speaker 1: far as sonically, and before I get into this new
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Speaker 1: album and my review of it, I'll just say this
21:51
Speaker 1: when it comes to Risin in that Rick Rubin interview,
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Speaker 1: and I know it didn't start there because he's probably
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Speaker 1: said this on numerous occasions. He reiterates that at one
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Speaker 1: point he doesn't he felt like, yo, I have to
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Speaker 1: keep moving forward as a producer. I have to do
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Speaker 1: something new. I'm not into retreading ground that I've already covered.
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Speaker 1: I get that people have an appetite for that, but
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Speaker 1: I'm always moving forward. And I think that explains why
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Speaker 1: there was so much tension between like Ray Kwan and
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Speaker 1: Riza about the sound, because Rizza is trying to expand
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Speaker 1: upon what he created all those years ago and not
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Speaker 1: really copy it, and Ray Kwon said, well, I don't
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Speaker 1: want you to copy it, but there's a particular sound
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Speaker 1: that people have become accustomed to when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the Wu, and it's boom back in Rizza's style of
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Speaker 1: boom back. So it makes sense that Mathematics is more
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Speaker 1: of like a compromise where Rizza, who is featured on
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Speaker 1: his album Rapping sounded good. Also it's like, okay, well,
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Speaker 1: it seems the fans, based on how they received eight
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Speaker 1: Diagrams and Better Tomorrow and all that, it seems like
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Speaker 1: the fans are more attracted to what I used to do,
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Speaker 1: and Mathematics has a great hold on that sound. And
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Speaker 1: he's a part of the Wool. He created the Wu
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Speaker 1: Tang logo, he was a DJ for the Wool, and
23:34
Speaker 1: he's again he has many credits throughout Wu Tang Clan's
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Speaker 1: history from album solo albums all that. So with that
23:44
Speaker 1: being said, the new album is out. Wu Tang clan
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Speaker 1: produced and conceptualized by Mathematics is called Black Sampson The
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Speaker 1: Bested Swordsman. It's about twelve songs here, coming in about
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Speaker 1: forty minutes, which is crazy. But I'm not complaining either
24:07
Speaker 1: because I don't need thirty songs. I'm sorry, I just don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with that unless somehow
24:14
Speaker 1: you are able to take thirty songs and make it
24:17
Speaker 1: so amazing. But no, it's probably gonna be two hours,
24:21
Speaker 1: so I can't guest features including there's a lot of
24:24
Speaker 1: guest features on here. If you didn't know, there's a lot.
24:30
Speaker 1: For example, Kuji raps on here, Kuji rap verse KUSI
24:34
Speaker 1: rap still got it, you know what I'm saying. His
24:36
Speaker 1: verse was crazy though, Kuzie raps on here. Benny the
24:41
Speaker 1: Butcher's featured on here. R J. Paine thirty Special, Willie
24:46
Speaker 1: the Kid who else King Crooked is on here. Also,
24:53
Speaker 1: all of the WU members do show up on tracks,
24:56
Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily like the big Protecting Neck track.
25:00
Speaker 1: The sprinkled throughout the project, Like you know, Rizzard appears
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Speaker 1: a couple of times. Same thing with Meth, same thing
25:07
Speaker 1: with Ray. I think ghosts may be on one song
25:11
Speaker 1: which is crazy, but the song it's called Claudine and
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Speaker 1: it's pretty dope. Like at first when it started, I
25:19
Speaker 1: was kind of like this, this feels like we're going
25:22
Speaker 1: in a different direction after the first first two songs.
25:27
Speaker 1: But then once once the singing kind of the singing
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Speaker 1: is done in the beginning, the beat opens up and
25:37
Speaker 1: the verses come through and it really sounds dope for
25:42
Speaker 1: those who don't know, just because I gotta say this
25:45
Speaker 1: for the new people, My system is, first listen, just
25:51
Speaker 1: grab all the vibes from it, you know, grab the vibes.
25:54
Speaker 1: Second listen, okay, let's listen in detailed concept which is
25:58
Speaker 1: blaxploitation films if you have a guessed. And the third
26:04
Speaker 1: listener is just to confirm my thoughts. Now for those
26:06
Speaker 1: who need quick reviews, I will say this is a
26:09
Speaker 1: good album. This is another good Wu Tang album produced
26:13
Speaker 1: by Mathematics. Give the man his flowers, because if it
26:19
Speaker 1: were up to Rizza produced today projects, they either not
26:25
Speaker 1: going to happen or they're not going to be what
26:28
Speaker 1: you expect, like a better Tomorrow. He talked about that
26:32
Speaker 1: and that Rick Rubin interview, what he was going for
26:37
Speaker 1: and he reluctantly. He was just feeling like, yeah, it
26:42
Speaker 1: wasn't it, even though I remember back then on social
26:46
Speaker 1: media Wu Tang stands lying to themselves that this was
26:52
Speaker 1: a great album, just saying generic things like Wu Tang forever, Like, man,
26:55
Speaker 1: shut up, you not even you're not even talking in detail.
26:58
Speaker 1: You just know that's the thing, and you're just gonna
27:01
Speaker 1: repeat the marketing tactic, right, And I don't mean that
27:05
Speaker 1: in a bad way. I'm just saying, what are you
27:08
Speaker 1: even talking about? Shut up? That album was trash and
27:11
Speaker 1: Riza basically just said it, so give mathematics's flowers because
27:17
Speaker 1: I was a little skeptical, and I'm gonna tell you this,
27:20
Speaker 1: it wasn't because he hadn't proved himself as a producer.
27:25
Speaker 1: It was that damn AI first video where I was like,
27:29
Speaker 1: what is this now? I know some people say, now
27:32
Speaker 1: I was real people. You can make videos with AI
27:37
Speaker 1: using real people. You just describe the things around them.
27:41
Speaker 1: So that's like if I film a bunch of scenes
27:43
Speaker 1: with you in a green screen, and you know, I
27:48
Speaker 1: tell you, hey, you're fighting ninjas in this one, and hey,
27:50
Speaker 1: you're talking to the grand Master in this one, and
27:52
Speaker 1: you're doing this and you're talking to your master and
27:54
Speaker 1: you defeated such and such blah blah blah, and this scene.
27:57
Speaker 1: And then I take those scenes, I put them in
28:00
Speaker 1: the AI machine bars. I forget which one people mostly use,
28:05
Speaker 1: but there's a couple of them, and I tell them,
28:08
Speaker 1: in this scene, this guy is fighting one thousand ninjas,
28:12
Speaker 1: and it'll just create that one thousand ninjas in a
28:16
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic China, you know, like a karate flag. I
28:23
Speaker 1: could put all that description in there and it was
28:25
Speaker 1: just created. And I just was kind of like, come on, man,
28:29
Speaker 1: y'are announcing the wo is back, the wo are They're
28:32
Speaker 1: doing their final tour, final tour ever. And the first
28:38
Speaker 1: video from this project it's some ai karate Nah man,
28:44
Speaker 1: that wasn't it. So I was kind of skeptical. And
28:47
Speaker 1: then I was even further skeptical when I press played,
28:49
Speaker 1: because not that this is a bad thing, but if
28:52
Speaker 1: I'm anticipating a Wu Tang album, the first voices I
28:57
Speaker 1: hear on here is Ralph mcdanie corrupt and somebody else
29:05
Speaker 1: I can't remember who, And it was more so like
29:08
Speaker 1: giving props to the Wou. But I was just kind
29:10
Speaker 1: of like, man, I don't want to hear that. Maybe
29:13
Speaker 1: I've been listening to hip hop for too long, you know,
29:16
Speaker 1: or music too long. You know. Maybe I'm just getting old.
29:19
Speaker 1: But the intros with the Yo man, I won't give
29:23
Speaker 1: a shout out to mathematics. You doing your thing, keep
29:27
Speaker 1: doing it? Next voice Yo was good. I sound like
29:31
Speaker 1: the guy who just called. But I just want to say,
29:35
Speaker 1: nah man, that does nothing for me. Okay, nothing, skip right,
29:40
Speaker 1: that's what it does. But once we got into Mandingo,
29:44
Speaker 1: which was it was okay, it was kind of like
29:47
Speaker 1: I didn't like the man Dingo as much. That's the
29:50
Speaker 1: one that had the AI video, I believe, mainly because
29:53
Speaker 1: it sounded too much like Woo knockoff. And it's tough
29:58
Speaker 1: to say giving a the fact that Mathematics has been
30:01
Speaker 1: a part of the WU for a minute. You know
30:04
Speaker 1: what I'm saying in many different roles, but it just
30:08
Speaker 1: reminded me of better beats that Rizza did. It was
30:12
Speaker 1: too close, way too close. It just felt like this
30:17
Speaker 1: sounds like whoa. It was kind of proven Riz's point,
30:20
Speaker 1: like the rehashes, but as the album continues, the production
30:27
Speaker 1: is way more varied than I thought. Man Dingo is
30:30
Speaker 1: probably the only record to me that sounds like if
30:34
Speaker 1: somebody heard it and you know Rizzi, you said Riza
30:37
Speaker 1: didn't do this, You feel like that's knock off risk.
30:41
Speaker 1: Like some of my favorites, the Claudine joint, Chalin versus Lama,
30:45
Speaker 1: which is ray kuon inspected deck h I skipped Executioners
30:51
Speaker 1: from Chalin Capa Donna's versus interesting. It's kind of dope.
30:55
Speaker 1: It was more interesting to me because he made a
30:58
Speaker 1: lot of animal references and anything about that trash cover
31:01
Speaker 1: he had where half his face was lying and it
31:04
Speaker 1: was supposed to be like jungle, but he was just
31:07
Speaker 1: in somebody yard next to like leaves that fell from
31:10
Speaker 1: a tree. Terrible. One of the worst album covers. Not
31:14
Speaker 1: the worst, I've seen some bad ones, but definitely one
31:17
Speaker 1: of the worst album covers ever. But the song Executions
31:23
Speaker 1: from Shylann it just didn't really do anything for me.
31:26
Speaker 1: And you're talking about a song that got just and
31:28
Speaker 1: inspected deck on it. I think it was just a production.
31:32
Speaker 1: Cleopatrick Jones was dope with Raycon Master Killer Warriors too
31:38
Speaker 1: coolly high with Beanie Benny the Butcher and method Man
31:42
Speaker 1: is pretty dope. Let's do it again, which mostly like
31:47
Speaker 1: Riss is the only one from the Wool feature, but
31:50
Speaker 1: it's like RJ Payne thirty Special, Willy the Kid, They
31:54
Speaker 1: dominate the track. R J Payn's versus Crazy okay crazy
31:59
Speaker 1: with the Wool references. Dolomite was cool and then the
32:03
Speaker 1: last song is fine. But it's one of those things
32:08
Speaker 1: where this album is and I know this is gonna
32:11
Speaker 1: be a long episode, y'all, sorry, but it's one of
32:15
Speaker 1: those things where the album is cool. It's not gonna
32:21
Speaker 1: give you the wo Is Back vibes because it's just isn't.
32:27
Speaker 1: But for some new WU songs, some new verses, it's cool.
32:33
Speaker 1: It's good. Will it be best of the year for me?
32:37
Speaker 1: Like top five? Hell no, it's just not that good.
32:41
Speaker 1: The albums that I really like right now, I will
32:45
Speaker 1: put them above this. But if the year turns out
32:48
Speaker 1: to be mostly slow and there's a couple of bangers,
32:52
Speaker 1: I don't have no problem adding this because I skipped
32:56
Speaker 1: one track. I mean, that's a good album to me.
33:02
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but that's a good album
33:04
Speaker 1: to me. So if you've heard the new album by
33:07
Speaker 1: Wu Tan Klan and Mathematics, Black Sampson leave your comments
33:12
Speaker 1: in a comment section below. Let me know what you think.
33:14
Speaker 1: Does it matter to you that it's not produced solely
33:18
Speaker 1: by Rizza, even though Rizza does appear on his album
33:22
Speaker 1: and sounds good on these tracks as far as his rhymen.
33:27
Speaker 1: Leave your comments and a comments section below. And lastly,
33:34
Speaker 1: so we've been watching videos online of Nas in India,
33:39
Speaker 1: obviously on business Gotta be, you know, with all the
33:44
Speaker 1: behind the scenes video footage we keep getting. We know
33:47
Speaker 1: that the label he is associated with, Mass Appeal Records,
33:53
Speaker 1: has what is it seven albums, seven new albums from
33:58
Speaker 1: seven rap icons dropping this year, including the NAS and
34:03
Speaker 1: DJ premier album. And they've been slow with their campaign,
34:08
Speaker 1: but they've been posting on ig different things like you know,
34:12
Speaker 1: a picture of young Nads and a description about who
34:16
Speaker 1: he was as an EMC coming into the game. Then
34:19
Speaker 1: they did another one that was like Ghost, the younger
34:23
Speaker 1: Ghost that you knew, and there's a description about him
34:26
Speaker 1: and his writing style and his success in the game.
34:31
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure where the source of this story
34:35
Speaker 1: came from, because I saw it on a couple of
34:38
Speaker 1: different occasions and I just started thinking about it as
34:41
Speaker 1: an MC, as a hip hop fan, and I guess
34:46
Speaker 1: someone asked him, you know what keeps you hungry in
34:50
Speaker 1: a hip hop game? What keeps your pin sharp in
34:53
Speaker 1: the hip hop game? And Na said something that was
34:58
Speaker 1: to me familiar as a fan of sports, in particular boxing,
35:04
Speaker 1: where he said, and I'll draw the comparisons in the second,
35:07
Speaker 1: but he said, I'm still trying to write my favorite song.
35:14
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't written the song. And I'm paraphrasing,
35:19
Speaker 1: but I haven't written a song that I can call
35:22
Speaker 1: my best, my favorite. And I think that's pretty dope
35:27
Speaker 1: when it comes to motivating yourself. Right now, when I
35:32
Speaker 1: say stuff like boxing and comparing it to boxing, it's
35:36
Speaker 1: the reason why some people keep going even when they're losing, right,
35:41
Speaker 1: even when they're successful, and you see they're still sharp
35:46
Speaker 1: at what they do, Like, for example, like Floyd Mayweather,
35:49
Speaker 1: like he was still quick and sharp at an age
35:53
Speaker 1: where he was supposed to slow down speed wise, at
35:56
Speaker 1: least he was definitely supposed to slow down. In boxing,
35:59
Speaker 1: they say the last thing to go is your power.
36:03
Speaker 1: Right Like, you can lose your foot foot movement, you
36:07
Speaker 1: could get hit more like your defense get a little lax,
36:11
Speaker 1: but you may still have that power if you've been landed,
36:15
Speaker 1: you may throw fewer punches. But with Nas, it's more
36:19
Speaker 1: like Floyd Mayweather after this hit boy run of stix
36:24
Speaker 1: albums in two and a half years and most of
36:26
Speaker 1: them being dope by most hip hop heads. I know
36:29
Speaker 1: that some people who didn't like it, that's cool. You
36:32
Speaker 1: can go sit at the kids table. But your opinion
36:37
Speaker 1: is your opinion. But I'm saying I think he looks
36:42
Speaker 1: at it like I haven't done my best yet, and
36:47
Speaker 1: that motivates him to do his best every time he
36:51
Speaker 1: writes new rhymes. And I think that's awesome to think about.
36:56
Speaker 1: And I think if more not necessar somely just older rappers,
37:01
Speaker 1: but if more rappers looked at the game, rappers, mcs,
37:06
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, looked at the game in
37:09
Speaker 1: that way and we're able to feed off of it,
37:14
Speaker 1: I think we would have more music that we could say,
37:17
Speaker 1: oh man, it's so much good music out now. I
37:20
Speaker 1: could say that because I listen to a lot of stuff,
37:22
Speaker 1: and I think people just miss a lot of albums.
37:24
Speaker 1: But to know that that's the motivation of somebody that's dope,
37:30
Speaker 1: that tells you they care about what they write, they
37:33
Speaker 1: care about their craft, they care about hip hop, and
37:38
Speaker 1: if someone like NAS, who has so many hits, a
37:43
Speaker 1: couple of classic albums, some of the greatest verses ever
37:48
Speaker 1: in hip hop, says he's still trying to write his
37:52
Speaker 1: favorite song, that's something to admire. Now. I know we
37:57
Speaker 1: live in a social media age and might be like,
38:01
Speaker 1: that's cat. I'll say to this, I don't see it.
38:09
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. When him and hit Boy beyond all the
38:15
Speaker 1: other releases, when Him and hit Boy dropped Magic, you
38:19
Speaker 1: would have thought Illmatic dropped again. The way people were
38:22
Speaker 1: reacting to that album like and then you know, obviously
38:27
Speaker 1: King's Disease two and three. The way people were acting
38:32
Speaker 1: was like, yo, now it's the go right, So it's
38:37
Speaker 1: just dope to see that that's his motivation. What do
38:40
Speaker 1: you think about what NA says? Do you feel like
38:44
Speaker 1: they're some of your favorite artists who are not really
38:47
Speaker 1: their pen game is not what it used to be,
38:49
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38:52
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38:55
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