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College Football Is Back. So Are We. · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the next round presented by Hard Rock
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Speaker 1: Bet on Sport and State. Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown,
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Speaker 1: all the guys behind the glass. If you're new to
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Speaker 1: the show, you'll meet them as we bring them into
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Speaker 1: the conversation. Shador has done it, it looks like, at Cleveland.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the winners and losers of the weekend
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Speaker 1: in the NFL coming up. Bad news for one Columbia,
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Speaker 1: great news for another Columbia. We'll get to that coming
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Speaker 1: up in the show. One's high school, one used to
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Speaker 1: steal my pennies. For cassette tapes back in the 70s.
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Speaker 1: Cassette tapes? No, actually the 80s.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: The Columbia Clearinghouse. Oh, I remember. We'll get to that
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Speaker 1: coming up. But if you've been with our show for
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Speaker 1: a long, long time, TV sheets are out for week
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Speaker 1: zero slash one, and it's game week for college football.
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Speaker 3: I loved seeing this when I walked in today, and
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Speaker 3: it was sitting right here at my spot.
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Speaker 1: I was very excited about that. And the best thing
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Speaker 1: on the printed version, you get the windows. Week zero
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Speaker 1: lines up, Lance, where you get North Carolina TCU in
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Speaker 1: the early window, NC State, Virginia, San Jose State, USC,
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Speaker 1: Sneaky Good, Jack State, North Dakota State.
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Speaker 4: In the afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Sneaky Good. Oh, look, there are Hawaii, Stanford.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Stanford, five-and-a-half point favorite right now, so you've got
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Speaker 5: a one possession at least on paper. The same, North
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Speaker 5: Dakota State, seven-and-a-half, Virginia, five-and-a-half, TCU, seven-and-a-half. UNLV 5.5. There
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Speaker 5: should be some really good games on that Saturday. Selfishly,
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Speaker 5: I wish USC was the late game because I really,
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Speaker 5: really want to focus on what I believe, and I've
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Speaker 5: said this for almost months now, the winner of NC
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Speaker 5: State Virginia has kind of got a path to being
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Speaker 5: that second.
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Speaker 2: Team along with Miami and the ACC.
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Speaker 5: I mean, one of the big questions, power for football
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Speaker 5: right now, who is the second best in the ACC?
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Speaker 2: It's wide open.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's supposed to be in Brazil. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I said it correctly. Is that where it's going
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Speaker 1: to be? It's going to be in Charlottesville, Virginia now.
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Speaker 1: It's a home game. Makes more sense to be in Charlottesville.
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Speaker 1: Makes much more sense. Makes it tougher on NC State, too.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how the Wahoos get crazy at Virginia.
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Speaker 3: Their attendance is never amazing. I can't imagine a game
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Speaker 3: that was not originally supposed to be there. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if class is in session this Saturday or not.
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Speaker 3: I went to a game there, Auburn and Virginia, back
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Speaker 3: in the day. I think Damian Craig was the Auburn quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I remember that. It was a pretty good atmosphere, and
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Speaker 1: I think it was a Thursday night. It was a
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Speaker 1: Thursday night, yeah. Thursday night, back when ESPN had good
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Speaker 1: Thursday night games on.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was when Ben Leard was the quarterback.
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Speaker 5: I know there was a Thursday night against Virginia, because
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Speaker 5: I remember Ben getting up and looking through the ear
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Speaker 5: hole on a Thursday night.
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Speaker 1: I remember that specifically. That's what you remember? I do, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But I think this was Damian Craig, because I think
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Speaker 1: he threw a, on-the-move bomb to win it for Auburn
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Speaker 1: back in the day.
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Speaker 2: Weird home-and-home there.
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Speaker 1: That was.
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Speaker 5: But I think we're sleeping on Virginia. The first three
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Speaker 5: years under Tony Elliott, 11 total wins. Last year, 11 wins.
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Speaker 5: Had every opportunity to get to a college football playoff.
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Speaker 5: And Bo Perbula taking over at quarterback. I don't think
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Speaker 5: there's going to be much of a drop from Chandler Morris.
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Speaker 5: You've got more production in the Power Four coming back
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Speaker 5: for Virginia than anyone else. So I think we're sleeping
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Speaker 5: a little bit on Virginia. And NC State with their schedule.
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Speaker 1: And then that night game, you mentioned Memphis and UNLV
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Speaker 1: there in Vegas. And that one has group of six
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Speaker 1: playoff implications out of the gate.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Boise gets Oregon in week one. I think
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Speaker 3: most people's, I think the majority favorite for the group
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Speaker 3: five rep is Boise. However, Memphis and Boise play. So
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Speaker 3: if Memphis can get a win, what a tough start
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Speaker 3: for Charles. So if you got to play UNLV and Boise,
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Speaker 3: but if Memphis can get the win over UNLV and
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Speaker 3: then pull the shocker on Boise, Memphis is in the
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Speaker 3: driver's seat for the college football playoff.
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Speaker 2: It sounds crazy. Well, I guess there's only one national champion.
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Speaker 5: I would feel better if you gave me five options
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Speaker 5: for the group five than five options for the national championship.
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Speaker 5: Because I would definitely go Boise. I would put Navy
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Speaker 5: in there. I would put UNLV in there. I think
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Speaker 5: I probably would put Memphis in there. I mean, what
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Speaker 5: do you think would be easier, telling me right now
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Speaker 5: who that group six rep is going to be or
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Speaker 5: who actually is going to win the national championship?
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Speaker 1: There used to be a show called Name That Tune.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I could name that tune in two teams.
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Speaker 1: For the group of six. So those that didn't watch.
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Speaker 1: You said five. I think I could do it in two.
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Speaker 1: You go back and forth.
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Speaker 3: I can name that tune in five notes. I can
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Speaker 3: name that tune in four notes. And then sooner or later.
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Speaker 5: Brown saw me in a bar in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was.
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Speaker 3: He called the song before it came on. Lance was like,
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Speaker 3: I can't even remember the song now. He's like, they're
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Speaker 3: going to play in the club. And then, I mean, boom,
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Speaker 3: in the club starts. I'm like, how did you do that?
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Speaker 3: I mean, the song had not started.
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Speaker 2: How did you do that?
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Speaker 5: But you know, I mean, when you hear that first
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Speaker 5: note on certain songs, you can immediately pull it.
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Speaker 2: As soon as the note hit, we both look at
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Speaker 2: each other like, how did he do that?
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Speaker 5: I can't believe Jamie Foxx hosted that show, but what
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Speaker 5: was it called?
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Speaker 2: Was it Shazam?
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Speaker 7: Beat Shazam.
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Speaker 1: Beat Shazam. Good show.
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Speaker 3: But some of those people, same thing. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: would hear one just. So you think you can name
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Speaker 3: it in two notes? I think two teams.
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Speaker 1: Two teams. It is Boise State. It is Navy. Navy.
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Speaker 2: You used to be able to do this with a
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Speaker 2: national champion.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 2: Name it. It's to your point. It's gotten really difficult.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I think Navy's going to be really good. It looks
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Speaker 5: like they're going to rotate quarterbacks. They do have to
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Speaker 5: play Notre Dame, but they can go 11-1, and.
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Speaker 2: They obviously get there.
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Speaker 3: You're willing to go forward without Memphis. You're willing to
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Speaker 3: go forward without sexy New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: Yes. You're willing to go forward without..
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Speaker 5: Anybody in the Sun Belt or Mac. Anybody in the
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Speaker 5: Sun Belt or Mac.
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Speaker 1: UNLV. I can go forward with all that. It's Boise
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Speaker 1: State and Navy for me. Navy I don't think will
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Speaker 1: lose anywhere except Notre Dame. And 11-1, then they go
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Speaker 1: to the American Conference Championship. I guess technically 10-1. They
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Speaker 1: go to the American Conference Championship before they play Army.
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Speaker 1: Just in the final year, probably of 12 teams in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs before we expand this thing, we need at
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Speaker 1: least that one awkward– of Navy being in the playoffs
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Speaker 1: on Selection Sunday and then still having to play Army afterwards.
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Speaker 1: We need that one time.
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Speaker 2: We need that just because that's college football, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: How dumb is this? Well, that's college football.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Sorry. And then Army upsets Navy? Yeah, I know, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But Navy's still in the playoffs. Does that count? No,
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Speaker 1: it did not count. That's what we need.
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Speaker 5: You know, it would be amazing if North Dakota State
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Speaker 5: in year one makes that transition and they ended up
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Speaker 5: being your group six.
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Speaker 6: Hmm.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a healthy favorite against Jacksonville State.
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Speaker 1: How big is it? Seven and a half. Seven and
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Speaker 1: a half? That is in Fargo, though. And they are
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Speaker 1: eligible to be the group of six. They don't have
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Speaker 1: to do what they did as early as last year,
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Speaker 1: have to sit out a year or two in your
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Speaker 1: transition up to Division I football. North Dakota State and
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Speaker 1: Sacramento State have received the buy so they can play
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Speaker 1: their way into bowl games. are, if need be, into
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Sac State's playing in the MAAC, I believe,
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Speaker 1: this year. That is correct.
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Speaker 2: Which is insane when you start looking at the MAAC.
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Speaker 3: They're paying to travel for the teams to come out
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Speaker 3: there and play them, if I remember correctly.
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Speaker 5: They are, but geographics don't matter anymore. Geography doesn't matter anymore.
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Speaker 5: except in the MAAC until Sacramento State. It was one
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Speaker 5: of the few conferences where it actually..
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Speaker 3: The MAAC was still Mid-American and then Sac State joined
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Speaker 3: and now we're not even Mid-American anymore.
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Speaker 1: Later in the show, we will look at a planet
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Speaker 1: and college football and combine the two galaxies. That's coming
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Speaker 1: up later in the show. You're watching the next round
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Speaker 1: by Hard Rock Bet on Sport and State. Big news
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Speaker 1: in college football. We had starters named at three SEC schools,
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Speaker 1: a couple of other Power Conference schools and a couple
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Speaker 1: of G6 schools. Let's jump into that. First, the biggest one,
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Speaker 1: the biggest playoff contender that named a starter over the
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Speaker 1: weekend was Alabama and Keelan Russell getting that job over
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Speaker 1: Austin Mack. Surprise level not very high. He was the
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Speaker 1: guy expected. I would say instantly every Alabama fan I've
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Speaker 1: seen along the way energized. by this announcement.
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Speaker 5: Well look the most upside is Keelan Russell I mean
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Speaker 5: we've been talking about this for the last couple of
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Speaker 5: years he seemed to be the future of Alabama football
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Speaker 5: and you know I think more surprising is Austin Mack
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Speaker 5: keeping the competition this close and I was talking to
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Speaker 5: somebody yesterday about and they're like man I feel so
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Speaker 5: bad for Austin Mack and I was like he's still
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Speaker 5: probably making seven figures he's got a beautiful girlfriend on campus.
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Speaker 1: Has his degree he's graduated he's.
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Speaker 5: A snap away from playing I mean he could be
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Speaker 5: a Mack Castle situation where Just because of his size
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Speaker 5: and arm strength, maybe somebody in the NFL without him
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Speaker 5: ever getting a start takes a shot at him.
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Speaker 1: Let's use this as an example. If for some reason
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Speaker 1: Russell goes down, Austin Mack comes in, I don't feel
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Speaker 1: like Alabama's season is off the rails. Do Darian Mensah
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Speaker 1: in Miami for me. Who was their backup, Jim? That's
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Speaker 1: my point.
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Speaker 5: A team we'll talk about today where Miami's only really
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Speaker 5: relevant game outside of Clemson is Notre Dame.
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Speaker 1: C.J.
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Speaker 2: Carr goes down.
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Speaker 1: Good night.
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Speaker 5: I mean, Mitch, he's on to Kentucky. I mean, with
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Speaker 5: a portal now for Austin Mack to be that loyal
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Speaker 5: to this coaching staff and look, and I know he's
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Speaker 5: been compensated. But for him to roll the dice and
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Speaker 5: stay there is a benefit, a luxury for Alabama right now.
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Speaker 5: I'm sure Lane Kiffin will probably try to get him
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Speaker 5: in the portal. He'll need to sign with the Browns first. Listen,
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Speaker 5: I believe you said that perfectly.
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Speaker 1: He's been loyal to DeBoer and that coaching staff, but
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Speaker 1: he's been compensated. He probably could have been compensated anywhere.
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Speaker 1: So not to underestimate or underplay the fact that he's
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Speaker 1: been loyal. And I think that's one reason why this–
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Speaker 1: This quarterback battle played out the way it did. We
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Speaker 1: mentioned this a little bit on Friday, Brownie, but this Lance,
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Speaker 1: it's almost like a family member to DeBoer. Had to
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Speaker 1: be a hard conversation. Yeah, because this kid left high
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Speaker 1: school early. to go to Washington declared early had left
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Speaker 1: a year of high school on the table and then
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Speaker 1: you know remember I don't I don't think Kalen DeBoer's
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Speaker 1: family Ryan Grubb didn't come with Kalen DeBoer from Seattle Austin.
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Speaker 5: Mack did though right and I do think for Kalen
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Speaker 5: DeBoer And just bringing up LSU again, Lane Kiffin treats
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Speaker 5: everything like a business, like heart of darkness. On the
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Speaker 5: other side, I really believe these decisions are difficult personally
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Speaker 5: for a guy like Kalen DeBoer. I mean, we know
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Speaker 5: him a little bit. We've gotten to know him over
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Speaker 5: the last three years. And I do think that this
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Speaker 5: is really difficult for him to sit down and tell
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Speaker 5: Austin Mack, hey, we're going with Russell here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it had to be a difficult decision,
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Speaker 3: but you weren't with us. Was it Thursday that Matt
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Speaker 3: Wyatt was on? And I thought Matt Wyatt laid this
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Speaker 3: out pretty well. He's like, if you're an experienced quarterback,
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Speaker 3: you know the decision well before it's announced. Not because
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Speaker 3: anybody's told you, but because their actions have told you. Like,
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Speaker 3: I mean, basically what Matt said was, Austin Mack is
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Speaker 3: going to know he's not the starter before any coach
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Speaker 3: ever tells him. He's like, you pick up on the cues.
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Speaker 3: You just notice the other guy getting more reps. You
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Speaker 3: notice they're doing things with the other guy they're not
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Speaker 3: doing with you. I believe that 99% of the time.
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Speaker 3: I think Austin Mack, though, he's educated enough and knows
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Speaker 3: this staff well enough.
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Speaker 5: I know we will get to breaking news in the
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Speaker 5: NFL in a minute. I think this is the 1%,
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Speaker 5: of course, with a dysfunctional franchise where you probably don't
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Speaker 5: get the telltale signs.
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Speaker 3: But I think Austin Mack, before Kalen DeBoer or Ryan
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Speaker 3: Grubb or Brian Ellis, whoever was the one that broke
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Speaker 3: the news to him, before they had to sit him down,
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Speaker 3: I would imagine Austin Mack already knew. I have lost
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Speaker 3: this job to Keelan Russell. And so you said Alabama
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Speaker 3: fans are excited. I was just going to shock you
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Speaker 3: guys where I was when the news broke Saturday.
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Speaker 1: On the golf course.
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Speaker 3: And in my foursome were two Bama fans and an
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Speaker 3: Auburn fan. The two Bama fans threw the roof.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're starting a bad joke. On the
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Speaker 1: golf course, two Bama fans and an Auburn fan.
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Speaker 3: The Auburn fan actually made the announcement. He got the
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Speaker 3: alert on his phone. He goes, ah, Keelan Russell... Name
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Speaker 3: starter at Alabama. And the Alabama fans got genuinely excited.
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Speaker 3: And the Auburn fan asked me, he's like, do you
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Speaker 3: think it was that close of a battle? And I said, actually,
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Speaker 3: I think this shows you how much separation there was.
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Speaker 3: Because I think if it was anywhere close, anywhere close,
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Speaker 3: they might go... Let me just say it this way.
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Speaker 3: If Austin Mack had any lead, they would not have
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Speaker 3: gone Keelan Russell just to keep him around, I don't believe.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe you play that way anymore in college football.
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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people believe this would go into
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Speaker 2: East Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: And we would see these guys probably play a half
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Speaker 5: each and then maybe make a decision before you go
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Speaker 5: on the road in Lexington against Kentucky in week two.
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Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of teams, whether it's the
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Speaker 5: NFL or college football, want to do this anymore. I
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Speaker 5: think they want to have that established guy Like how
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Speaker 5: many quarterback battles do we have going on in the Power.
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Speaker 2: Four right now?
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Speaker 1: Well, we had another one settled in the SEC, but
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Speaker 1: one more note, two of them actually in the SEC,
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Speaker 1: one more note, you're looking at Keelan Russell. I know
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Speaker 1: we've all heard things from camp, the people that get
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Speaker 1: to see practices and maybe conversations with coaches and such.
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Speaker 1: The one thing I keep hearing about Russell is when
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Speaker 1: the play breaks down, when it doesn't go as scripted,
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Speaker 1: he's the best at saving the play. Well, and that's
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Speaker 1: what you need with this unknown at offensive line. I
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Speaker 1: was about to say, Lance, tell me how many times
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Speaker 1: last year watching Alabama did Ty Simpson have to bail
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Speaker 1: them out?
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Speaker 5: Well, they gave up 32 sacks, and it probably would
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Speaker 5: have been in the 40s if it wasn't for Simpson
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Speaker 5: and his escapability. I saw it again this past weekend
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Speaker 5: against the Saints in a play that broke down, and
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Speaker 5: he's got really good footwork, and he's able to extend
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Speaker 5: those plays. Russell's going to be next level because once
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Speaker 5: he extends the plays, then he actually can move the
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Speaker 5: chains and do some really athletic things that Alabama hasn't
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Speaker 5: seen at the quarterback position. I guess you saw Bryce Young,
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Speaker 5: but Bryce Young was just so small. You never wanted
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Speaker 5: him to even be in the mix to take a hit.
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Speaker 3: I think you saw the running ability, what you're talking about,
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Speaker 3: on steroids with Jalen Milrow. I'm not saying Milrow's on steroids.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: If you guys watched last night, but the first play
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Speaker 5: that broke down When Milrow was in, he took it
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Speaker 5: 15 yards.
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Speaker 3: But can Russell be a more consistent passer than Milrow?
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Speaker 3: That was the thing that Alabama fans just drove them
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Speaker 3: crazy about. Milrow, he could play the first half against
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Speaker 3: Georgia and be the best player in America.
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Speaker 1: That's the comp, though, I keep hearing is taller, stronger
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young.
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Speaker 3: I would rather have that because Bryce Young is one
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Speaker 3: of the most accurate passers we've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: I doubt Mike.
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Speaker 3: I'll need to see it to believe that his accuracy
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Speaker 3: will approach Bryce Young's.
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Speaker 2: That would be shocking. I will be shocked at that.
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Speaker 2: But if that is the case, look out. You might
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Speaker 2: have a Heisman finalist this year.
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Speaker 5: Other fan bases laugh, roll their eyes when you say that,
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Speaker 5: but is it going to shock you guys at all
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Speaker 5: if Keelan Russell comes in and he's one of the
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Speaker 5: top two or three quarterbacks in the SEC? Wouldn't surprise
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Speaker 5: me just based on the track record of Keelan DeBoer
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Speaker 5: with quarterbacks. Nobody saw Ty Simpson going out performing at
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Speaker 5: the level he did without an elite receiver, without a
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Speaker 5: 500-plus yard running back with a shaky offensive line, and
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Speaker 5: he ends up being the second quarterback selected in the
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Speaker 5: first round.
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Speaker 2: This past May.
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Speaker 1: You see this Hard Rock Bet logo that floats around
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Speaker 1: behind you here? Part of making future bets is timing.
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Speaker 1: Future bet to win, I don't have the odds in
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Speaker 1: front of me, future bet to win the Heisman for
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Speaker 1: Keelan Russell.
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Speaker 2: I would say it's 50-1.
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Speaker 1: Would have been smarter two weeks ago than it probably
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Speaker 1: will be right now or after the game started. Back
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Speaker 1: when Furman told us he really liked that play, this
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Speaker 1: was several weeks ago, when Furman was like, one play
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Speaker 1: I like for the Heisman is Keelan Russell. And his
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Speaker 1: point was, I think he's going to win the starting job,
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Speaker 1: and when are you going to get Alabama's starting quarterback
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Speaker 1: at that number? At the time, I think, was it.
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Speaker 6: 40-1, 50-1?
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Speaker 2: Well, he was only 28-1.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if this was four days ago, so
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Speaker 5: I don't know if they had already figured in that
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Speaker 5: Russell was good.
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Speaker 1: I would assume that they've got him as the starter
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Speaker 1: here at 28-1.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think at the time Furman was talking
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Speaker 3: about it, it was bigger than that, though, 40 or 50-1,
16:06
Speaker 3: and that was his point. Like, I think Russell's going
16:09
Speaker 3: to win the job. You may as well take a
16:10
Speaker 3: flyer now because you'll never get him at this number again.
16:12
Speaker 1: That's right. Timing is everything. Um, before we take our
16:15
Speaker 1: first break today, uh, Arkansas names, KJ Jackson, their starter,
16:20
Speaker 1: Tennessee goes with the young freshman phase on Brandon.
16:23
Speaker 8: Yeah.
16:24
Speaker 3: I saw this, uh, on three reporting it this morning. Um,
16:28
Speaker 3: This is fascinating.
16:30
Speaker 1: You just kept hearing from Tennessee camp that Faison Brandon
16:34
Speaker 1: has edged ahead, has edged ahead, has edged ahead. I
16:37
Speaker 1: don't know.
16:38
Speaker 3: I'm trying to take myself back to the spring and
16:42
Speaker 3: how we handicapped this race. I know it was a
16:44
Speaker 3: very close race, but I don't know that I thought
16:46
Speaker 3: Brandon was going to be the winner in this race
16:48
Speaker 3: going back to the spring.
16:49
Speaker 5: Well, the interesting thing here, I mean, Heupel's offense is, like,
16:53
Speaker 5: people don't realize how productive the offense was last year.
16:57
Speaker 5: And the two best Heupel teams were Hendon Hooker in 2022,
17:02
Speaker 5: where he threw two interceptions, and then the playoff team
17:05
Speaker 5: two years ago in 2024 with Nico, where he only
17:08
Speaker 5: threw five picks. If you can limit the turnovers with
17:12
Speaker 5: Deshaun Bishop running the football and now with Jim Knowles' defense,
17:15
Speaker 5: Tennessee could be one of the big surprise teams, but
17:17
Speaker 5: it's going to be about Brandon Hogan not turning the
17:19
Speaker 5: football over.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that offense at high-pull runs, with that run game,
17:25
Speaker 1: if Brandon can prevent the young mistakes, early starter mistakes,
17:29
Speaker 1: and create some wow plays, that's what Tennessee had a
17:35
Speaker 1: couple years ago when they made a playoff run.
17:37
Speaker 3: I was looking at, for those that have not seen him,
17:39
Speaker 3: I was looking at his recruiting profile. First of all,
17:42
Speaker 3: 36 games as a starter in high school, 35-1. You
17:45
Speaker 3: love that stat.
17:46
Speaker 1: Number two..
17:49
Speaker 3: They do a comp, a player comp, Geno Smith. That's
17:53
Speaker 3: who they compare Faison Brandon to, the player comp. They
17:56
Speaker 3: say the guy he reminds us of, Geno Smith.
17:58
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take Geno Smith and Dana Holgerson's West Virginia offense.
18:01
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah.
18:02
Speaker 5: And I do think that the Jets are going to
18:03
Speaker 5: be a little improved with Geno this year. I mean,
18:05
Speaker 5: he wasn't bad for the Seahawks a couple of years ago,
18:09
Speaker 5: was terrible last year with that awful Raiders offensive line.
18:12
Speaker 5: Do you guys think that people realize– that Hypo had
18:16
Speaker 5: the number one offense in the SEC, not only in
18:18
Speaker 5: total offense last year, but in scoring offense.
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Speaker 4: Last year?
18:22
Speaker 1: Last year. Jim is surprised. Oh, I did not know that.
18:24
Speaker 1: I would be surprised.
18:25
Speaker 3: I would have said they were the number one scoring
18:27
Speaker 3: offense in the SEC last year. I would have guessed
18:29
Speaker 3: Ole Miss.
18:29
Speaker 1: If we were at a party right now playing a
18:32
Speaker 1: drinking game.
18:33
Speaker 2: I could have got you on that one.
18:34
Speaker 1: Two truths and a lie. I would have called that
18:36
Speaker 1: a lie right there.
18:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, total offense, and they average right at 40 points
18:40
Speaker 5: per game, 39.7. Number two. Ole Miss was number three, Brown.
18:44
Speaker 5: Do you know who number two was? This might surprise
18:45
Speaker 5: you as well. Quarterback is now gone.
18:51
Speaker 3: I was going to say that.
18:55
Speaker 1: Quarterback is now gone. Who was it?
18:58
Speaker 2: Same state.
18:59
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt. Wow. Wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: Vandy was the number two?
19:01
Speaker 5: Yeah.
19:02
Speaker 1: It's like two troops in a line. It's your old basketball.
19:04
Speaker 1: Flip back over.
19:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
19:07
Speaker 5: 38.4 points per game last year for Pavia and that
19:10
Speaker 5: Beck offense.
19:11
Speaker 1: LT would be like, I stole a driver's seat headrest
19:17
Speaker 1: out of an Uber. I have broken a bottle of
19:21
Speaker 1: vodka over a table in the VIP area.
19:25
Speaker 2: I shot a shotgun.
19:27
Speaker 1: Through a floor. Tennessee led the SEC in offense last year. Oh,
19:31
Speaker 1: that's a lie. That's a lie.
19:34
Speaker 2: I did live the first two. Less points per game
19:37
Speaker 2: in conference, Mississippi State or Alabama.
19:40
Speaker 1: By you saying it, I'm going to say Alabama. I mean,
19:42
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, 30.3, and Alabama, 29.5. Offense was not the problem.
19:44
Speaker 2: Quick break here.
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Speaker 1: The other starters into the NFL when we come back.
19:52
Speaker 1: But big news there in college football, which blends with
19:56
Speaker 1: the NFL these days. I mean, you can go to
19:57
Speaker 1: the NFL, play a couple exhibition games, and come back
20:00
Speaker 1: to college, maybe. We'll get to all that. And game
20:03
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Speaker 1: The other starters named Browning. Rutgers, familiar name in the
20:21
Speaker 1: SEC for Alabama fans. Dylan Lonergan has won the Rutgers job.
20:26
Speaker 1: He was at Alabama as a backup and then Boston
20:29
Speaker 1: College as a starter, and he lost his job there.
20:32
Speaker 1: But he's going to be the QB1 at Rutgers. Another
20:36
Speaker 1: familiar name, Max Johnson, is the starting quarterback at Georgia Southern.
20:41
Speaker 1: You're 12 for him? He has won the starting job
20:44
Speaker 1: at times at LSU, Texas A & M, North Carolina,
20:47
Speaker 1: and now he's.
20:47
Speaker 5: At Georgia Southern. I got this this morning. You guys
20:49
Speaker 5: are going to love this. And this is like the
20:51
Speaker 5: graphic of the day, and I need to send this
20:53
Speaker 5: to Scott.
20:55
Speaker 1: How about this?
20:57
Speaker 5: True stat, Max Johnson has been in college football for
20:59
Speaker 5: so long, he played for Orgeron in his last year
21:02
Speaker 5: at LSU, Jimbo Fisher in his last year at A & M,
21:06
Speaker 5: and Mack Brown in his last year at UNC.
21:07
Speaker 1: That's fact. That's impossible.
21:10
Speaker 2: And now he's with our man Clay Helton.
21:12
Speaker 1: Good luck, Clay. Clay needs to win. It could be
21:14
Speaker 1: his last year at Georgia Southern.
21:16
Speaker 2: That is crazy.
21:19
Speaker 1: It could have been last year for Bill Belichick at
21:21
Speaker 1: North Carolina, last year the way they performed. They kept
21:24
Speaker 1: him around. South Florida. Michael Van Buren, who at one
21:29
Speaker 1: point started last year at LSU, is now the starter
21:32
Speaker 1: at USL.
21:32
Speaker 2: It was at Mississippi State before that.
21:35
Speaker 1: And then some guy named Billy Edwards is at North Carolina.
21:38
Speaker 1: He was at Maryland and then had won the Wisconsin
21:41
Speaker 1: job and then got hurt before the season started last year.
21:46
Speaker 1: And he's the starter at North Carolina.
21:48
Speaker 5: That's going to be like for the true, and this
21:50
Speaker 5: could be like a diehard college football game one day.
21:53
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21:56
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21:57
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23:15
Speaker 1: Right here, though, winners and losers over the NFL weekend,
23:18
Speaker 1: week two of the exhibition season. And in Cleveland, Cleveland
23:23
Speaker 1: fans were booing Deshaun Watson nonstop. basically like he was
23:29
Speaker 1: the visiting basketball guard who had transferred away from him.
23:33
Speaker 1: Every time he touched the ball, they were booing. And
23:35
Speaker 1: it looks like Shador Sanders has won that job in Cleveland.
23:41
Speaker 2: Not so fast. This is crazy.
23:45
Speaker 5: Sadly, I watched that game in the pool this past weekend.
23:48
Speaker 2: Because I had the Browns minus the points.
23:52
Speaker 5: I was hoping because of the quarterback competition, both quarterbacks
23:54
Speaker 5: would play well. It got so bad in the first
23:56
Speaker 5: half when Shador was in there. There was a pass
24:00
Speaker 5: interference that kept the drive going where it would have
24:03
Speaker 5: been a fourth down where they would have kicked the
24:04
Speaker 5: field goal. I didn't want the pass interference because I
24:06
Speaker 5: wanted the field goal. Of course, the next play throws
24:07
Speaker 5: an interception. That's how bad the quarterback play was.
24:11
Speaker 2: And Deshaun was just as bad. But Deshaun comes out.
24:14
Speaker 5: And talks about how off-putting the crowd is booing him,
24:17
Speaker 5: and the last time he was on the field in
24:19
Speaker 5: 2024 when he tore his ACL, they booed him.
24:22
Speaker 1: They're booing because you have held this organization hostage.
24:26
Speaker 2: You have. $ 200- plus million.
24:27
Speaker 3: The fans hate him, and I think he hates the fans.
24:30
Speaker 3: You watched that post-game news conference.
24:32
Speaker 2: He said, this fan base.
24:33
Speaker 1: This fan base.
24:34
Speaker 3: And I think the question essentially was, They're booing you
24:39
Speaker 3: because you're playing poorly, but if you felt sporty, and
24:41
Speaker 3: he basically said, you mean like when they were cheering
24:44
Speaker 3: when I tore my ACL? That kind of support? I mean,
24:46
Speaker 3: he hates that fan base, and they hate him. This
24:49
Speaker 3: is as bad a quarterback situation as you can get.
24:51
Speaker 5: This shows you how bad the Browns organization is, how
24:54
Speaker 5: dysfunctional it is, because Todd Monken in year one, you
24:57
Speaker 5: can't go with Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson probably is the
25:01
Speaker 5: better of the two options, but it is very, very
25:04
Speaker 5: close if you watch two preseason games.
25:07
Speaker 2: And to now have.
25:08
Speaker 5: Your starting quarterback, at least they're on the road against
25:10
Speaker 5: Jacksonville in week one, to basically be calling out your
25:13
Speaker 5: fan base, it's going to be impossible for these proud
25:16
Speaker 5: Cleveland fans. And I say that, and I'll be in
25:19
Speaker 5: all seriousness, it is a proud fan base that just
25:22
Speaker 5: doesn't get results. But for them to have to go
25:25
Speaker 5: out there and try to cheer for Deshaun now after
25:28
Speaker 5: this division, I just don't get it. I thought there
25:31
Speaker 5: was a better chance to show Watson wouldn't be a
25:34
Speaker 5: Cleveland Brown this week. I mean, I guess there's not
25:36
Speaker 5: much you can do with him because you've got to
25:38
Speaker 5: pay him anybody in any way, and nobody else is
25:40
Speaker 5: going to pick this up. But for him to be
25:42
Speaker 5: the starting quarterback, it just blows me away. But it
25:44
Speaker 5: shows you how bad Shador is, too. Yeah, it shows
25:46
Speaker 5: you how bad I am at picking things. I thought
25:50
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson was going to win the starting job. And
25:52
Speaker 5: then I saw the highlights from the game. I didn't
25:55
Speaker 5: watch the game, but I saw the highlights from the
25:56
Speaker 5: game and the booing and stuff, and I.
25:57
Speaker 1: Was like, well, you can't play him.
25:59
Speaker 5: Oh, I would have said that– If the press conference,
26:03
Speaker 5: and you shouldn't base it on a press conference, that
26:05
Speaker 5: maybe you lean Deshaun just because you're paying him all
26:07
Speaker 5: this money.
26:07
Speaker 2: He does have the experience.
26:09
Speaker 5: Maybe a little more upside still if he could capture
26:12
Speaker 5: some of the magic. But after he went on the podium,
26:15
Speaker 5: I don't know how you can name him starting quarterback.
26:17
Speaker 5: I think our man Dan Orlovsky is talking about the
26:19
Speaker 5: same thing right now, like how Munkin would do this.
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Speaker 9: Hey, guys.
26:23
Speaker 1: Huh? Deshaun Watson was just named the quarterback. starter yeah
26:27
Speaker 1: yeah and that's that's what Orlovsky's talking about just named
26:29
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback yeah well that gives the fans something
26:32
Speaker 1: to do during the game then boo they can boo
26:34
Speaker 1: yeah you can't boo your starter.
26:37
Speaker 2: Right oh yeah you can't they were already doing it
26:40
Speaker 2: the preseason they were getting their reps in there's ever a.
26:42
Speaker 10: City that you boo your starter it's Cleveland or Philadelphia
26:45
Speaker 10: yeah or New York I mean there's.
26:47
Speaker 1: Actually yeah but let me ask you more than that
26:50
Speaker 1: let me ask you this because I've got the colors
26:51
Speaker 1: of my Super Bowl champion pick On today. Oh, no.
26:55
Speaker 1: Don't do this to me.
26:56
Speaker 4: Don't land mine, LT.
26:57
Speaker 1: Please don't do this.
26:59
Speaker 11: California is finally going to fall into that sinkhole.
27:03
Speaker 7: The fault line is going to split.
27:06
Speaker 2: It's going to float right away, Tyler.
27:07
Speaker 5: I mean, the Naval Academy took one today. They literally
27:10
Speaker 5: took their first torpedo since when?
27:12
Speaker 1: Come on, guys. I'm not landmining Lance. The Chargers. Oh, okay, good.
27:16
Speaker 2: That ain't the Chargers colors.
27:19
Speaker 1: I was waiting. I've lost a dollar to Bo, our
27:22
Speaker 1: president up here, because I was like, God, give me
27:25
Speaker 1: that Rams hat we have in our next round store,
27:27
Speaker 1: next round dot store, next round dot store. because Lance
27:31
Speaker 1: will say something on the air before I have to
27:32
Speaker 1: bring it up. So I have a different one to
27:34
Speaker 1: throw on here if you need me to throw it on.
27:36
Speaker 1: Are they your actual Super Bowls?
27:37
Speaker 2: Are you a high school recruit? How many different hats
27:39
Speaker 2: you got under there?
27:41
Speaker 4: Make your pick today.
27:42
Speaker 1: Set them on the table, Jim.
27:44
Speaker 2: There's his NFC pick. He's going to the Giants. That's
27:47
Speaker 2: the Bills, right?
27:47
Speaker 1: Is that the Bills?
27:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you got a little red in there.
27:50
Speaker 1: Bills v. Rams?
27:51
Speaker 4: Texans.
27:52
Speaker 2: Could be the Texans.
27:52
Speaker 1: Could be the Texans. Yeah, the Texans are my AFC pick. Oh,
27:55
Speaker 1: there you go. But I do think the Rams win
27:57
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But if you're the Rams, seriously. Ty
28:01
Speaker 1: Simpson has looked good. Stetson Bennett has looked good. Why not?
28:08
Speaker 1: Cleveland would be better off with Stetson Bennett as the
28:11
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. than they would with Shador Sanders, in my opinion.
28:15
Speaker 5: Well, the Rams, if they're smart, and watching again this weekend,
28:19
Speaker 5: I watched every rep from both of those guys. Stetson
28:21
Speaker 5: outplayed Ty Simpson. Ty was better last week. Stetson was
28:24
Speaker 5: better this week. Stetson's got more experience. He needs to
28:27
Speaker 5: be the number two. I fully expect him to be
28:29
Speaker 5: the number two. There were people out there, Stetson will
28:31
Speaker 5: probably get cut. If he got cut, he's going to
28:33
Speaker 5: get picked up.
28:34
Speaker 2: Probably by Cleveland. Maybe Cleveland, maybe Arizona in division.
28:37
Speaker 1: Who knows? Is there anything in Cleveland you guys would want?
28:40
Speaker 1: For Stetson Bennett, a guy who could be a QB3. Yeah,
28:43
Speaker 1: we'll take Jared Burse back.
28:46
Speaker 2: We've already had him.
28:47
Speaker 1: If only I was a Cleveland.
28:50
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
28:52
Speaker 5: The Rams have got to prepare that this is for
28:55
Speaker 5: sure Stafford's last season.
28:56
Speaker 1: I believe it is.
28:58
Speaker 5: And then you've got two quarterbacks that I think can
29:00
Speaker 5: be starting quarterbacks in the NFL. I've seen some really
29:02
Speaker 5: good stuff from Ty this preseason. I've seen some really
29:05
Speaker 5: good stuff the last two preseasons from Stetson Bennett.
29:08
Speaker 2: So you hold them both. I hold them both.
29:10
Speaker 5: And look, now you've got to have three quarterbacks on
29:13
Speaker 5: the 53.
29:13
Speaker 2: I mean, it's an NFL rule now.
29:15
Speaker 1: The guys behind the glass, if you're new with us
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Speaker 1: on Sporting State. Behind the glass is Tyler here. He
29:25
Speaker 1: runs the board. Brooks back there. He's our social media guy.
29:29
Speaker 1: I don't have y'all's official titles. I'm sorry. We'll get
29:31
Speaker 1: back to that. And then Forrester is a Falcons fan.
29:34
Speaker 1: This was a big topic in Atlanta over the weekend.
29:37
Speaker 1: Sports talk was bring Stetson. Bennett home after he had
29:41
Speaker 1: the great performance. The Falcons should go out and get
29:43
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett as the quarterback of the future for the Falcons,
29:46
Speaker 1: not Tua, not Penix. I mean, I don't think he
29:50
Speaker 1: could be any worse than what that QB situation is
29:53
Speaker 1: right now.
29:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really, Scott, thought You know, listen, I've watched
29:56
Speaker 3: Tua as a Dolphins fan forever. I really thought it
29:59
Speaker 3: would be a good reset for him. And I thought
30:01
Speaker 3: you guys were the favorite in the South when he
30:03
Speaker 3: went and got Tua. I thought neither one of them
30:05
Speaker 3: are great, but they're both good enough with the other weapons.
30:08
Speaker 2: And having watched Tua in the preseason, he's cooked. Jack Strand.
30:12
Speaker 5: He's done, isn't he? Jack Strand. Did you watch this weekend?
30:15
Speaker 5: Minnesota Moorhead, the undrafted free agent, 6'5, 240-pound quarterback. Jack
30:22
Speaker 5: Strand is going to be the guy for the Falcons.
30:23
Speaker 1: You think so?
30:24
Speaker 2: I say that jokingly. Didn't they play Cooper Rush?
30:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Jack Strand outplayed all of them. I mean, Scott,
30:30
Speaker 1: don't you believe Tua's cooked? I mean, he cannot throw
30:32
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Oh, did you guys see
30:35
Speaker 1: the clip from the OTAs?
30:37
Speaker 2: The joint practice with the Colts?
30:39
Speaker 1: It was terrible. Yeah, he cannot throw the ball down
30:41
Speaker 1: the field. First exhibition game, it was terrible. negative 0.2
30:46
Speaker 1: yards airtime. And you cannot dink and dunk in the NFL.
30:49
Speaker 1: I mean, you might could manage that somehow in college,
30:52
Speaker 1: a dink and dunk offense. You cannot do it in
30:54
Speaker 1: the NFL. I really thought we were past the point.
30:56
Speaker 1: You guys remember when, you know, the NFL, when it was,
30:59
Speaker 1: it still had some parity, but there were only eight
31:01
Speaker 1: to 10 really, really good quarterbacks and eight to 10
31:05
Speaker 1: organizations had really, really bad quarterback play.
31:08
Speaker 5: I thought we were past that. I thought the worst
31:10
Speaker 5: of the quarterback play you know, would be a guy
31:12
Speaker 5: like Daniel Jones that's getting a second start in Indianapolis,
31:15
Speaker 5: who was pretty good at times. I just thought quarterbacks
31:18
Speaker 5: are so specialized today that I thought that almost all
31:22
Speaker 5: 32 teams would have a capable guy, but this is
31:25
Speaker 5: looking like the NFL 10 years ago.
31:27
Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see that. But you've got,
31:29
Speaker 1: you know, the 49ers occasionally pretty, and Matt Jones both
31:34
Speaker 1: could be okay starters in the league. I think you've
31:37
Speaker 1: got a couple with the Rams. I But then you've
31:42
Speaker 1: got a situation in Pittsburgh.
31:43
Speaker 5: I know you've got a Hall of Famer there, but
31:45
Speaker 5: you're number two, Mason Rudolph. You don't have good quarterback
31:48
Speaker 5: options right now in Pittsburgh. Obviously, you don't with the
31:50
Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns. I don't know if you do with the
31:52
Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans. Like Cam Ward, he does not have a
31:55
Speaker 5: completion to their number one overall pick, Cornell Tate. The
31:58
Speaker 5: reason they've been playing him in the preseason is to
32:00
Speaker 5: get more reps, but to build rapport with a first-round
32:03
Speaker 5: guy that doesn't even have a reception yet.
32:05
Speaker 1: Struggling out of the gate, for sure. Good-looking new uniforms, though. No,
32:09
Speaker 1: they do look good. In Nashville. Yeah. with the Titans there.
32:12
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I don't know if they've officially named him yet,
32:15
Speaker 1: but he's going to be the starter with the Raiders.
32:18
Speaker 1: But coming out of the weekend, Gentee's banged up again.
32:20
Speaker 1: Good news, though. Start to worry about him injury-wise.
32:23
Speaker 5: You know, when you see teammates take a knee and
32:26
Speaker 5: start praying around a player getting caught up, then you
32:29
Speaker 5: start thinking that maybe they heard something, maybe he said something.
32:33
Speaker 5: But reports now out of Vegas, and the good news
32:36
Speaker 5: is you've got a really, really good number two player
32:40
Speaker 5: out of Arkansas that has been playing his ass off
32:42
Speaker 5: in the preseason. But the news right now for Jenty
32:46
Speaker 5: is it's just a sprained ankle. Now, we don't know
32:49
Speaker 5: what grade sprain it is, but I would fully expect
32:51
Speaker 5: him week one.
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Speaker 1: A sprained ankle.
32:53
Speaker 2: Mike Washington's that rookie. I'm not diminishing the act of prayer.
32:57
Speaker 1: Don't listen. Don't hear me say that. But a sprained
32:59
Speaker 1: ankle is not something you take a knee and pray over. No, no.
33:01
Speaker 3: You take a knee and pray over a guy that
33:03
Speaker 3: completely blew his knee up or his bone sticking out
33:05
Speaker 3: of his leg or something like that. When you see
33:07
Speaker 3: guys taking a knee and praying, you're like, there must
33:09
Speaker 3: have been a bone protruding, you know, something like that.
33:11
Speaker 3: Sprained ankle after that, you thank God that it was
33:14
Speaker 3: only a sprained ankle, right?
33:15
Speaker 1: Hell of a way worse.
33:16
Speaker 5: I know you texted us and didn't get a response
33:18
Speaker 5: about Mendoza last week.
33:20
Speaker 2: I wasn't watching.
33:21
Speaker 1: I totally jinxed that.
33:22
Speaker 2: But, you know, the pick six over the weekend.
33:25
Speaker 3: You mean right after Troy Aikman said he looked a
33:27
Speaker 3: lot like Peyton Manning in his first term?
33:29
Speaker 2: I do think Mendoza's going to be really good, though.
33:32
Speaker 1: I do, too. I've always liked him, too. You guys,
33:36
Speaker 1: I hope, are familiar with the Bermuda Triangle. We've talked
33:39
Speaker 1: about it many times on this show. The Bermuda Triangle
33:42
Speaker 1: in the NFL is the right tackle for the Kansas
33:46
Speaker 1: City Chiefs.
33:47
Speaker 2: Whoever they put there is horrible.
33:50
Speaker 1: And the guy that's there now, Jalen Moore, two-year, $ 30
33:54
Speaker 1: million contract, And he is listed at Bleacher Report as
34:01
Speaker 1: a big loser of the weekend. He was supposed to
34:04
Speaker 1: be the probable right starter at tackle, but just not having–
34:09
Speaker 1: they have guys that jump off sides. They can't block.
34:13
Speaker 1: The reason Patrick Mahomes is closer to retirement than winning
34:16
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl maybe is because of their right tackle play.
34:20
Speaker 5: Well, and I'm still not buying the Chiefs. I think
34:22
Speaker 5: the division continues to get more and more difficult. Mike
34:25
Speaker 5: McDaniel taking over the offense. For the Chargers, I think
34:29
Speaker 5: they're going to be better this year. Denver, we saw
34:32
Speaker 5: the improvement last year. The Raiders now with much improved
34:36
Speaker 5: quarterback play and more weapons now.
34:38
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders are going to be much better.
34:40
Speaker 5: The Chiefs, I mean, you go back to 2024 when
34:43
Speaker 5: they were 15-2, they were 10-0 in one-possession games.
34:46
Speaker 2: Last year, when they missed the playoffs, 1-9 in one-possession games.
34:49
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
34:50
Speaker 5: So you've seen them, like, you know, they're starting to
34:52
Speaker 5: take a step back to begin with.
34:54
Speaker 3: We talk about, in the SEC a lot, one-possession games. Like, oh,
34:57
Speaker 3: they played a bunch of one-possession games. A lot of
34:59
Speaker 3: teams do. In the NFL, every team does. So that's
35:01
Speaker 3: a key stat right there. Your one-possession game stat is
35:05
Speaker 3: going to tell.
35:05
Speaker 1: You whether you're in the playoffs or not.
35:07
Speaker 5: I mean, look, age gets us all. It's starting to
35:10
Speaker 5: get Mahomes a little bit without those weapons. And, you know,
35:13
Speaker 5: Mahomes two years ago in those one possession games was
35:15
Speaker 5: magic last year. And a couple of them he didn't
35:17
Speaker 5: play because, you know, he had torn his ACL. But
35:20
Speaker 5: you're seeing him, you know. regress a little bit, and
35:23
Speaker 5: obviously that's going to be the whole Chiefs team if
35:26
Speaker 5: he's going backwards.
35:27
Speaker 1: More NFL later in the second hour of the next
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35:36
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35:40
Speaker 1: We talk science when we come back. Listen, your conference
35:44
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35:49
Speaker 1: Carolina State have to play each other in a non-conference
35:53
Speaker 1: game in December. The ACC last week announcing that North
35:58
Speaker 1: Carolina and NC State have agreed for the next two
36:00
Speaker 1: years to play in Greensboro in December, this year December 15th,
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Speaker 1: in a non-conference game because they'll only meet once in
36:08
Speaker 1: the ACC schedule. Silly. Too big. Yeah. Too big. What
36:13
Speaker 1: is the ACC? Is it 18 now in basketball? I mean,
36:19
Speaker 1: I'll tell you in a sec. Is it 17? It
36:21
Speaker 1: could be. I lose track, man. I lose track. Because
36:24
Speaker 1: they've got Notre Dame, remember, as an actual basketball member
36:27
Speaker 1: but not a football member. Yeah, but your conferences are
36:30
Speaker 1: too big if two state rivals have to play each
36:33
Speaker 1: other In a non-conference game in December. I agree with
36:37
Speaker 1: you 100%. Yeah, too big.
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Speaker 1: I will tell you that logo, the only thing that
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38:02
Speaker 1: August 24th, 2006, a big day for who or what?
38:07
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, for gecko scientists, and they want to
38:09
Speaker 5: throw back everything we learned back in the day.
38:12
Speaker 2: And, you know, I never understood.
38:14
Speaker 5: I got in an argument with a math teacher, this
38:16
Speaker 5: new math, like, hey, I can get to my kid's
38:19
Speaker 5: final number doing it my old way well you can't
38:21
Speaker 5: do you got to show the new work and we've
38:23
Speaker 5: got new math why don't we have new math why
38:25
Speaker 5: would we go from nine planets to eight planets on
38:29
Speaker 5: this day in 2006 we decided pluto was going to
38:32
Speaker 5: be demoted to a dwarf planet i still recognize personally
38:36
Speaker 5: pluto is a planet it's a planet.
38:37
Speaker 3: In my book always will be yeah yeah yeah i'll
38:39
Speaker 3: always have pluto as a planet i mean first of
38:41
Speaker 3: all the way i remember the planet names i gotta
38:43
Speaker 3: have pluto for the sentence to make sense.
38:45
Speaker 2: Give that to us. I don't remember that. I remember
38:47
Speaker 2: Roy G. Biv before doing the..
38:49
Speaker 1: Red, orange, yellow, green. Blue, indigo, violet. I don't remember
38:54
Speaker 1: where it was. Did you put Uranus in that sentence? Yeah.
38:59
Speaker 3: No, Uranus is in this one. Yeah, give it to us.
39:02
Speaker 3: My very educated mother served us nine pickles.
39:09
Speaker 2: Never heard that before. That was a Calhoun County thing, probably.
39:12
Speaker 7: You're missing Jupiters.
39:13
Speaker 2: My very educated mother just served us nine pictures.
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Speaker 4: There you go.
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Speaker 1: Thanks, Tyler.
39:17
Speaker 3: Been a minute since I've done it. Yeah, that was
39:19
Speaker 3: Calhoun County, Alabama.
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Speaker 4: Art did it?
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Speaker 9: Huh?
39:22
Speaker 1: Art did it? Since I've done it? Since I've done it?
39:24
Speaker 12: Yeah.
39:25
Speaker 1: You missed it last week. He called it the Big Tan?
39:28
Speaker 1: The Big Tan.
39:30
Speaker 5: I've never understood why we have so many surveys.
39:32
Speaker 2: You know, when we do research on..
39:34
Speaker 1: We would have family few. We would not have family
39:36
Speaker 1: few if it wasn't for service.
39:38
Speaker 7: It doesn't work if you only ask 50 people.
39:40
Speaker 1: That's true. You've got to ask 100.
39:42
Speaker 5: We go back and we research some stupid stuff. And
39:45
Speaker 5: for people to be like, oh, it's too small. It's
39:48
Speaker 5: too dark. It's too cold.
39:50
Speaker 7: Well, it's because it doesn't orbit the sun.
39:52
Speaker 2: Okay.
39:53
Speaker 4: Ah, well.
39:54
Speaker 1: Did they not know that shit before?
39:55
Speaker 2: How does it not orbit the sun? It's not floating around,
39:58
Speaker 2: not going anywhere.
39:59
Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So Pluto just sits still?
40:02
Speaker 11: So, to be considered a planet, it requires the object
40:07
Speaker 11: to orbit the sun, be round from its own gravity.
40:10
Speaker 7: And have cleared its neighborhood of other space rocks.
40:14
Speaker 11: Pluto fails the third rule because it shares the orbit
40:17
Speaker 11: with many icy.
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Speaker 7: Bodies in the Kuiper Belt.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, who dropped the ball.
40:23
Speaker 2: On this originally to make Pluto the ninth planet?
40:25
Speaker 11: Well, they updated the definition of a planet.
40:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they did. They changed the definition. The
40:29
Speaker 1: old Kuiper Belt.
40:30
Speaker 6: Yeah.
40:30
Speaker 1: I don't want to go Nashville balls here, but we
40:33
Speaker 1: don't need to be changing definitions.
40:34
Speaker 2: That's right.
40:34
Speaker 1: Let's keep it. So let's do this. Okay. Let's do this.
40:37
Speaker 1: This is a Lance topic here, but Lance says, since
40:41
Speaker 1: Pluto on this day was demoted from being a planet,
40:44
Speaker 1: let's take one power four football program and demote it
40:49
Speaker 1: from being a power four football program.
40:50
Speaker 2: Start us off.
40:52
Speaker 1: I am going to go. First of all, I've never
40:54
Speaker 1: been to this place. I have been to this state.
40:57
Speaker 5: Some people that are from there, and they're the only
40:59
Speaker 5: ones that will tell you it's an underrated state, but Piscataway,
41:02
Speaker 5: New Jersey. I'm going with the Rutgers Scarlet Knights. You're
41:06
Speaker 5: going to piss off a good friend of yours.
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Speaker 1: That was what I had dinner with her last night.
41:10
Speaker 1: Former gymnast at Rutgers, Lauren Sissler, now with ESPN. Yeah,
41:14
Speaker 1: she's an awesome person. I had dinner with her last night.
41:17
Speaker 2: She'll be gutted that she was even talking about Rutgers
41:19
Speaker 2: at dinner last night.
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Speaker 5: Okay, well, we will remove Lauren from this conversation, but
41:23
Speaker 5: 156 years of Scarlet Knight football.
41:26
Speaker 1: They've only been to 11 bowl games. You know how
41:28
Speaker 1: easy it is to get to a bowl game?
41:30
Speaker 2: 11 bowl games.
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Speaker 5: They've only had two 10-win seasons in 156 years. How
41:36
Speaker 5: many first-round draft picks do you think they've had in
41:38
Speaker 5: their 156 years?
41:38
Speaker 2: Zero. They have three.
41:41
Speaker 1: Three.
41:42
Speaker 2: But, I mean, Ohio State tops that every single year. Yeah,
41:45
Speaker 2: I know.
41:45
Speaker 5: Just first-rounders from Miami last year. 16 losing seasons over
41:50
Speaker 5: their last 25 seasons of football. Nobody would miss them.
41:54
Speaker 5: They were at one time not a power four. They
41:56
Speaker 5: don't deserve to be a power four now. Shiano doesn't
41:59
Speaker 5: have a bad product right now. I mean, they're kind
42:02
Speaker 5: of middling, but it's just traditionally, historically, they've been terrible.
42:05
Speaker 5: Could I watch college football if Rutgers weren't in it?
42:08
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I could. For me... It's going to be a
42:12
Speaker 1: school that I think no longer can clear itself of
42:15
Speaker 1: space rocks, and it's struggling to keep its own orbit
42:18
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. I'm going with Purdue. Purdue has
42:22
Speaker 1: a lot of history, a lot of bowl games, Drew Brees,
42:24
Speaker 1: Gary Danielson, but Jeff Brom's not walking through that door anymore.
42:29
Speaker 1: They haven't won a Big Ten game in two years.
42:34
Speaker 1: Were they in the Big Ten East, West, Legends games? Leaders.
42:38
Speaker 1: They were. They were the West. Yeah, they were the West.
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Speaker 4: They won it randomly one year and got demolished by Michigan.
42:44
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I remember that. I think it has left–
42:48
Speaker 1: the Big Ten has left Purdue behind. That's who I
42:51
Speaker 1: would kick down. Well, you know they got a new AD.
42:53
Speaker 1: They're going to win championships.
42:54
Speaker 8: That's right.
42:55
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't want to win championships, go
42:57
Speaker 1: to Indiana. Yeah, the national champion. And I would also
43:00
Speaker 1: tell you, P is for Pluto, so I thought it
43:02
Speaker 1: worked for this segment. And it would help my– basketball
43:06
Speaker 1: bracket every year in march too if purdue wasn't in
43:09
Speaker 1: it because i buy into them way too much it
43:11
Speaker 1: cost me so many.
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Speaker 2: Money if i just saw that i would think princeton based.
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Speaker 1: On the page okay yep i i did it quickly
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Speaker 1: i i literally said i'm we're not drawing logos i
43:20
Speaker 1: mean you.
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Speaker 5: Can't even read mine my writing so bad i had
43:23
Speaker 5: to run to the bathroom i uh by the way
43:26
Speaker 5: our our new dry erase boards were supposed to be
43:28
Speaker 5: here today hey what happened i thought you were getting
43:29
Speaker 5: them Oh, I thought you were shipping them.
43:31
Speaker 1: No, I thought Bo was shipping them. Okay, so it
43:33
Speaker 1: went from my fault to Bo's fault.
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Speaker 7: It appears like they're not on the way at all.
43:37
Speaker 1: I'm going to say those have not even been ordered.
43:38
Speaker 1: New and dry race boards by our first sport and
43:41
Speaker 1: state official show.
43:42
Speaker 2: We do have a staple still, don't we? Well, I
43:44
Speaker 2: thought that's where Bo.
43:44
Speaker 3: Was getting them. I'll follow up on that after the show.
43:49
Speaker 3: My team, like Tyler explained... Has been in orbit before,
43:54
Speaker 3: but they can't stay in orbit. And that's why I'm
43:55
Speaker 3: kicking them out. Now, I want to keep them in basketball.
43:57
Speaker 3: I didn't always have to kick them out of basketball, too.
43:59
Speaker 1: Is that the thing?
43:59
Speaker 2: I thought we were only kicking.
44:00
Speaker 1: Them out of football. Just football. That's it. Yeah. Minus Kansas. Kansas.
44:04
Speaker 1: The Jayhawks.
44:05
Speaker 3: Now, Kansas at times, they've gotten into orbit.
44:09
Speaker 2: The big man Geno had them in an orange bowl.
44:11
Speaker 1: They played..
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Speaker 3: The Missouri Tigers for the Big 12 championship, and that
44:16
Speaker 3: was a one versus two matchup.
44:19
Speaker 5: It was one versus two to see who would actually
44:22
Speaker 5: go and play Oklahoma. Missouri ended up being the number
44:25
Speaker 5: one team after that game, but that was Todd Riesing.
44:27
Speaker 5: That was a really, really good Kansas team, and Lance
44:29
Speaker 5: Leopold He was like the new hot coach a couple
44:32
Speaker 5: of years ago.
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Speaker 2: Now he's on the hot seat. Now he's on the
44:34
Speaker 2: hot seat.
44:34
Speaker 1: That's right.
44:35
Speaker 2: They can't stay in orbit. Kansas cannot stay in orbit.
44:37
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2-0 in the preseason because of Kansas
44:40
Speaker 1: quarterback Jalen Daniels.
44:41
Speaker 2: And I was about to say.
44:42
Speaker 1: Our ones and twos can beat nobody, but when we
44:44
Speaker 1: put the threes in, we're winning. Dude, he has been really,
44:47
Speaker 1: really good. Undrafted free agent for Tampa Bay. I will
44:50
Speaker 1: make a prediction he will at least start one game
44:52
Speaker 1: because Baker will not make it a full 17.
44:53
Speaker 2: Is he the backup?
44:55
Speaker 1: He's going to be our two?
44:56
Speaker 2: They don't even know if he's going to make the roster.
44:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had him as our three. All right, that's
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Speaker 1: our Pluto demotion. When we come back on the next round,
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45:30
Speaker 1: Over the weekend, you don't like country music, right? I mean, look, I...
45:36
Speaker 1: You're growing to enjoy some of it.
45:38
Speaker 5: You know, in the 90s, I listened a little bit
45:40
Speaker 5: just because, you know, around people that were listening to
45:43
Speaker 5: it a lot. I mean, I respect, it's a weird
45:46
Speaker 5: genre because you hear a guy like Morgan Wallen, he
45:49
Speaker 5: doesn't sound like he can sing, but I mean, the
45:51
Speaker 5: guy sells out every freaking stadium he plays.
45:54
Speaker 1: Brown went to see a 90s cover band over the weekend.
45:59
Speaker 1: Straight tequila nights, yeah. According to his wife's social media feed.
46:04
Speaker 1: When I did Uber a couple of weeks ago, I
46:06
Speaker 1: mentioned them.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
46:07
Speaker 1: So they started following me. That's right.
46:10
Speaker 3: The mention got to them, but Lance drove past Iron City.
46:15
Speaker 3: Mentioned they're coming. I said, oh, I think Jennifer got
46:18
Speaker 3: tickets for that. They started following us on social media,
46:21
Speaker 3: got back to them that we mentioned them on that random.
46:24
Speaker 1: Show that we were doing. Did they hook you up
46:26
Speaker 1: with tickets? No, I didn't ask for that. I mean,
46:28
Speaker 1: tickets are fairly inexpensive. But I went to see them.
46:30
Speaker 1: They were really, really good. Two and a half hours
46:32
Speaker 1: they played. Luke Bryan is a current country music star.
46:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I don't understand.
46:38
Speaker 1: Like this guy, like how people like pay to see
46:42
Speaker 1: this guy perform. Well, I wanted to say thanks for
46:45
Speaker 1: Luke Bryan just tweeted, enjoying Sporting State and his next
46:48
Speaker 1: round show. I'm kidding.
46:51
Speaker 13: Love you, Luke.
46:53
Speaker 1: He has a song called Play It Again, Play It Again,
46:55
Speaker 1: which I really enjoy. Luke's son, Bo Bryan, is now
47:00
Speaker 1: the quarterback at Battleground High School, which I think is
47:03
Speaker 1: in Franklin or near Franklin, Tennessee. He is the starting quarterback,
47:08
Speaker 1: went on the road down in Mobile this past week,
47:12
Speaker 1: against Phillip Rivers' coach St. Michael's team, and Bo Bryan,
47:16
Speaker 1: Luke Bryan's son, led Battleground to a 41-18 win over
47:22
Speaker 1: Phillip Rivers' St. Michael's team, a good old-fashioned ass whooping. Yeah,
47:26
Speaker 1: that is. Do you have his numbers? Yeah, what were
47:28
Speaker 1: his numbers? I don't have his numbers in front of me.
47:30
Speaker 1: I saw the highlights on SportsCenter, and it was touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
47:34
Speaker 5: You know, there was a time when we were doing
47:36
Speaker 5: a show together that Nashville football wasn't that good.
47:39
Speaker 4: I know.
47:40
Speaker 1: And it seems like, you know, it is really accelerated.
47:43
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys saw the highlight from the– The quarterback,
47:47
Speaker 5: the Montreal running back that has signed with Tennessee.
47:50
Speaker 1: David Gabriel Georges of Baylor High School in Chattanooga.
47:54
Speaker 4: I have Luke Bryan's son's numbers.
47:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, his first half was crazy. 10 of 15, 2
47:58
Speaker 3: of 16, 2 touchdowns.
47:59
Speaker 10: He wound up going for 375 and 3 touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: He scorched them in the first half.
48:04
Speaker 2: What year is he?
48:06
Speaker 1: I don't know.
48:07
Speaker 2: Is he a prospect?
48:08
Speaker 4: Senior season.
48:09
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like it. But it's not the best high
48:12
Speaker 1: school story of the weekend. Columbia High School in Huntsville, Alabama,
48:18
Speaker 1: named after the Columbia Space Shuttle, is what the school
48:23
Speaker 1: is named after. Damn, that's tough. Had lost 101 consecutive
48:31
Speaker 1: games in high school football.
48:33
Speaker 2: I think I would have switched the name at this point.
48:36
Speaker 1: Sammy Coates, former Auburn wide receiver for the Auburn Tigers
48:41
Speaker 1: and the SEC. Sammy Coates is their coach. And they
48:44
Speaker 1: won the game over the weekend, breaking a 101-game win streak.
48:49
Speaker 1: You see the celebration there. October of 2015 is the
48:54
Speaker 1: last time they won a high school football game.
48:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, we originated out of Birmingham. You probably remember this story.
49:00
Speaker 5: John Carroll went like four, five, six, seven seasons. It wasn't...
49:05
Speaker 5: to this degree, but I think it was like 50
49:07
Speaker 5: or 60 games. That is amazing that you can make
49:09
Speaker 5: it triple digits.
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Speaker 1: October of what year? October of 2015. And Sammy Coates
49:16
Speaker 1: has went in there and got some athletes and turned
49:18
Speaker 1: them around and they got the win. They're off. to
49:20
Speaker 1: a 1-0 start. Celebration was unbelievable. He was a dog
49:23
Speaker 1: of a player at Auburn, a wide receiver, played a
49:25
Speaker 1: little bit in the league. in the NFL.
49:28
Speaker 5: To put that in perspective, Jake Coker had just won
49:31
Speaker 5: the starting job at Alabama, basically.
49:33
Speaker 1: Here's what jumps out at me.
49:34
Speaker 3: They had not won a game, as I watched that video,
49:36
Speaker 3: since 2015. How many kids they've got out for football?
49:39
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a heck of a sales job by
49:40
Speaker 3: Sammy Coates.
49:41
Speaker 1: Because until Sammy Coates gets there, you are coming in
49:44
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to play football. I'll play baseball
49:46
Speaker 1: and basketball. I'm not going to be on the losing
49:48
Speaker 1: football team.
49:48
Speaker 3: Why do I want to go sweat it out all
49:50
Speaker 3: summer long just to lose 10 games and not go
49:52
Speaker 3: to the playoffs?
49:54
Speaker 1: I bring it up because... Columbia finally wins again on
49:58
Speaker 1: the weekend that it's announced that Columbia Clearinghouse will go
50:04
Speaker 1: out of business on September the 9th. They're closing their doors.
50:07
Speaker 1: 71 years of offering vinyl, cassettes, then CDs. At one point,
50:14
Speaker 1: they had 16 million subscribers to Columbia Clearinghouse.
50:19
Speaker 5: It was basically a pyramid scheme for a corporation that
50:22
Speaker 5: just took people's money. Gave people bad credit. They finally
50:25
Speaker 5: figured out there's not enough Dunaways in the world to do.
50:29
Speaker 5: Like people know about this bad brain.
50:31
Speaker 1: You did it twice?
50:33
Speaker 4: Twice, yeah.
50:33
Speaker 1: I've never heard of anybody that did it twice. I
50:35
Speaker 1: did it twice.
50:35
Speaker 7: Did the door-to-door knife salesman ever get you? Yeah.
50:39
Speaker 1: I did it once with cassettes and once when CDs
50:41
Speaker 1: were online. Maybe a little bit different this time. Like
50:43
Speaker 1: most of this, when I lost to a bookie, my
50:47
Speaker 1: Toyota Tercel and my CDs and my stereo were Most
50:51
Speaker 1: of the CDs they took were Columbia Clearinghouse CDs. They
50:54
Speaker 1: cost me 13 CDs for 13 cents. Yeah, I'm glad
50:57
Speaker 1: they're out of business. They were out of business on
50:59
Speaker 1: September the 9th. When we come back, Tom Lugenbill joins
51:02
Speaker 1: the show. He will talk with us about college football,
51:05
Speaker 1: some starting quarterbacks named. This guy knows his stuff when
51:10
Speaker 1: it comes to talent evaluation, especially that position. Lugenbill is
51:14
Speaker 1: on the other side here on the next round, presented
51:16
Speaker 1: by Hard Rock Bet on Sport & State. Back with you,
51:20
Speaker 1: hour number two of Sport and State presented by Hard
51:24
Speaker 1: Rock Bet. This is the next round. Our first official
51:27
Speaker 1: guest on this side of the platform was a guest
51:30
Speaker 1: of ours way back in the day. That's right, ESPN's
51:33
Speaker 1: Tom Lugenbill. You'll see him throughout the college football season,
51:37
Speaker 1: stadiums near you. Lugenbill has been joining.
51:40
Speaker 3: Us for years, talking a little college football all the time.
51:44
Speaker 1: Luges, welcome in, man. How are you? Tyler, he doesn't
51:48
Speaker 1: hear us. You've got to unmute it. You muted us
51:51
Speaker 1: to him. Tyler, there you go.
51:53
Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke.
51:54
Speaker 1: What is up? How are you?
51:54
Speaker 8: Oh, I see you guys turned my volume up finally.
51:58
Speaker 1: We finally did.
51:58
Speaker 8: Yes.
51:59
Speaker 1: We did not want you to hear us talking about
52:00
Speaker 1: you in the break.
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Speaker 8: How you guys doing?
52:04
Speaker 1: Good, buddy.
52:05
Speaker 3: Let's start with some of the quarterbacks that have been
52:06
Speaker 3: named over the weekend, and we'll start with Alabama.
52:09
Speaker 1: Keelan Russell. You've watched Keelan Russell play. He was a
52:12
Speaker 1: Gatorade Player of the Year. You evaluated his high school film.
52:15
Speaker 1: What does he bring to Alabama that maybe some... I
52:20
Speaker 1: hate to do the comps, but Alabama fans are like,
52:22
Speaker 1: who does he look like? What does he bring to
52:24
Speaker 1: Alabama's offense?
52:26
Speaker 8: Well, first off, I think the number one thing he's
52:28
Speaker 8: going to bring is preparedness and work ethic. It's the
52:30
Speaker 8: best prepared quarterback we've had at the Under Armour All-America
52:33
Speaker 8: game in probably 15 years. Just tireless worker, loves the game,
52:38
Speaker 8: loves to study the game. So I think it's probably
52:41
Speaker 8: a big portion of what won him the job, and
52:43
Speaker 8: it's probably one of the reasons why the learning curve
52:45
Speaker 8: will be a little less steep than maybe it is
52:47
Speaker 8: for some others. But to me, it's just the overall
52:52
Speaker 8: consistent accuracy, the ability– to push the ball downfield vertically
52:59
Speaker 8: and just that kind of natural pocket feel for how
53:04
Speaker 8: to extend plays when things aren't perfect, you know? And,
53:07
Speaker 8: and as I said before with you guys, and I've,
53:10
Speaker 8: I've been through this myself personally and I've, and I've
53:12
Speaker 8: coached it as well. You know, those, those quarterback battles,
53:17
Speaker 8: everything is charted, man. Like every single thing is documented
53:21
Speaker 8: to win one of those. Like, You've got to number one,
53:25
Speaker 8: you've got to be better than the other guy. You've
53:27
Speaker 8: got to show it consistently day in and day out.
53:29
Speaker 8: But then I think the other thing, too, that's really
53:31
Speaker 8: important to note is that the coaching staff has to
53:35
Speaker 8: get a real feel for the locker room, get a
53:38
Speaker 8: feel for who is the team responding to. And I
53:41
Speaker 8: think Keelan Russell won the team.
53:43
Speaker 5: Luganville, these guys were shocked when I said earlier in
53:46
Speaker 5: the show that Tennessee had not only the number one
53:48
Speaker 5: overall offense, but also the number one scoring offense in
53:51
Speaker 5: the SEC. Faison Brandon is going to be the guy
53:54
Speaker 5: for Hypo. We know these Hypo offenses are exciting. What
53:58
Speaker 5: does Brandon bring? And when you look at a Jim
54:01
Speaker 5: Knowles defense with Deshaun Bishop coming back, a thousand plus
54:04
Speaker 5: yard rusher. Yeah.
54:05
Speaker 1: Could this Tennessee team surprise this year?
54:09
Speaker 8: I think it could. Dependent upon how fast Faison branding
54:13
Speaker 8: grows up, what he can handle, do they spoon feed
54:17
Speaker 8: him early on? Do they just take the handcuffs off
54:20
Speaker 8: and say, all right, man, you're free to go. Let's
54:23
Speaker 8: roll with this thing. And can he minimize mistakes? I
54:27
Speaker 8: think the other thing with young quarterbacks as well is
54:30
Speaker 8: obviously he's very talented, was recruited by everybody. clearly showed
54:34
Speaker 8: that he can be trusted with the offense if you're
54:35
Speaker 8: going to win that job and you're that age and
54:38
Speaker 8: you have that little experience. But young quarterbacks got to
54:42
Speaker 8: not only manage the game, they got to manage their
54:43
Speaker 8: emotions because it can be very easy to get caught
54:46
Speaker 8: up in the highs and caught down in the lows.
54:49
Speaker 8: And there will be speed bumps. There will be some
54:52
Speaker 8: potholes along the way. How does he handle those things?
54:54
Speaker 8: What's his maturity level like? You know, those first couple
54:57
Speaker 8: of two to three weeks, I got to go to
54:58
Speaker 8: Atlanta to play Georgia Tech, you know, on the road.
55:02
Speaker 8: I think it'll be interesting. Offensively, the scheme is tried
55:06
Speaker 8: and true, whether it's been UCF, whether it's been Missouri,
55:10
Speaker 8: whether it's been Oklahoma, whether it's been Tennessee. That offense
55:14
Speaker 8: or various versions of it have been great for the
55:18
Speaker 8: college game, and I think they're very, very quarterback friendly.
55:20
Speaker 8: I would not anticipate that they're going to do a
55:22
Speaker 8: lot of full field read progression stuff. I would anticipate
55:26
Speaker 8: that early on you're going to get a lot of
55:27
Speaker 8: half field reads, simplify things pre-snap. and rely on that
55:31
Speaker 8: run game. If that run game gets rolling, and Tennessee
55:34
Speaker 8: loves to spread you out horizontally and really make that
55:37
Speaker 8: box thin, take some pressure off the quarterback, I think
55:41
Speaker 8: they have a chance by season's end to be pretty
55:43
Speaker 8: damn good.
55:44
Speaker 1: Do you expect Auburn's offense to look a little like
55:47
Speaker 1: that with Alex Golish there now?
55:50
Speaker 8: I would expect a play about every 13 seconds. That
55:55
Speaker 8: was last year, that was by far the fastest play
55:59
Speaker 8: operating offense i saw him twice on a thursday night
56:02
Speaker 8: and when that thing gets rolling it is it is
56:06
Speaker 8: difficult to to work with defensively and you know the
56:10
Speaker 8: quarterback is such a freight train and things don't have
56:14
Speaker 8: to be perfect for him so he can make what
56:17
Speaker 8: looks like a potential negative play and turn it into
56:20
Speaker 8: a positive one and so i um they'll be fast
56:23
Speaker 8: they'll be faster than tennessee in terms of their operation
56:26
Speaker 8: and that's you know not speaking lightly Okay.
56:29
Speaker 1: Tom Lugenbill, you originate from North Carolina all these years
56:32
Speaker 1: for us. North Carolina starts this weekend in Week 0
56:36
Speaker 1: against TCU. Give me the temperature of Carolina fans with
56:42
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick year two now. Are you starting to get
56:46
Speaker 1: the sense they're ready to move on?
56:50
Speaker 8: Well, I think this offseason didn't help. with the most
56:54
Speaker 8: recent Mike Lombardi stuff. There's just a lot of distractions.
56:58
Speaker 8: For a coach who built his entire career on not
57:03
Speaker 8: having distractions, having one focal point, all it's been is
57:08
Speaker 8: distractions since he arrived there. The players weren't good enough
57:13
Speaker 8: a year ago. They weren't talented enough. Uh, they had
57:16
Speaker 8: one of the most forgiving schedules that any first year
57:19
Speaker 8: coach could have ever been given. And then this year
57:22
Speaker 8: it's the exact opposite. Um, I love the addition of
57:26
Speaker 8: Bobby Petrino. I can't imagine what it must be like
57:29
Speaker 8: to have to go to work every day. Um, when
57:31
Speaker 8: your head coach is Bill Belichick and Bobby Petrino, I
57:34
Speaker 8: don't think there's a lot of smiles in that office. Um,
57:37
Speaker 8: So I expect the offense to be better. The question is,
57:40
Speaker 8: how much better are they at quarterback? Billy Edwards has
57:42
Speaker 8: been hurt, often hurt, everywhere he's been, going all the
57:45
Speaker 8: way back to Wake Forest when Dave Claussen recruited him,
57:48
Speaker 8: then to Maryland, then to Wisconsin last year. I don't
57:52
Speaker 8: know how much better their roster is, guys. And I
57:54
Speaker 8: think that patience is waning very, very thin. And I
57:59
Speaker 8: kind of felt this thing is either going to work
58:01
Speaker 8: or it's going to be a colossal disaster when it
58:04
Speaker 8: was announced. And I didn't think there'd be any in
58:07
Speaker 8: between there. And I think it's kind of trending towards
58:09
Speaker 8: the colossal disaster part now.
58:11
Speaker 3: It certainly seems that way. There has been very little
58:14
Speaker 3: positive come out of there. And now they got to
58:17
Speaker 3: go on the field and do it, as you said,
58:18
Speaker 3: against a difficult schedule. Tom Lugabil is with us, ESPN.
58:22
Speaker 3: Another new coach in a new place just named his
58:24
Speaker 3: quarterback today. According to reports, Aaron Filo has won the
58:27
Speaker 3: job at Florida for John Sumrall. I think a lot
58:30
Speaker 3: of people look at the Florida roster and say it's
58:32
Speaker 3: not that far off if they can get quarterback right.
58:36
Speaker 3: Aaron Filo, we've seen him at Georgia Tech. How does
58:38
Speaker 3: he fit in with Summerall's system? And is that getting
58:40
Speaker 3: quarterback right? Like, is that a high enough level quarterback
58:43
Speaker 3: that you think Florida could potentially be some type of
58:46
Speaker 3: surprise team in the SEC?
58:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so. And, you know, you've got to
58:51
Speaker 8: tie that to Buster Faulkner, obviously, the offensive coordinator Coach
58:55
Speaker 8: Summerall brought down from Georgia Tech. Understand two years ago
58:59
Speaker 8: when Haynes King was returning, You know, I believe the
59:02
Speaker 8: number out there to retain Aaron Filo at Tech to
59:06
Speaker 8: be a backup was around a million bucks.
59:08
Speaker 5: Right.
59:08
Speaker 8: So obviously they failed. felt he was an important piece
59:11
Speaker 8: of the puzzle for their future. And then Faulkner takes
59:14
Speaker 8: the OC job at Florida and clearly brings Aaron Philo
59:18
Speaker 8: with him. And I think the expectation was that I
59:21
Speaker 8: know this guy. He knows me. He knows our system
59:24
Speaker 8: inside and out. He gives us a leg up. Obviously,
59:28
Speaker 8: you have a natural quarterback competition, as most places do
59:31
Speaker 8: every fall. But I would have been surprised if he
59:33
Speaker 8: wasn't named the starter. I think Florida's got better players
59:36
Speaker 8: than people think they do. You just said something, though, Ryan,
59:40
Speaker 8: that is true everywhere. If you get the quarterback position right,
59:44
Speaker 8: it seems to solve all the other problems. It's kind
59:47
Speaker 8: of funny how that works.
59:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree.
59:49
Speaker 8: And that's something. Yeah, and that's something that Florida has
59:52
Speaker 8: struggled with in recent years.
59:53
Speaker 5: Lugaville, you are part of the ACC network, and I
59:56
Speaker 5: think one of the more legitimate questions in the ACC
1:00:01
Speaker 5: is who is that second best team behind Miami? And
1:00:03
Speaker 5: this weekend, week zero, we get NC State, Virginia. I've
1:00:06
Speaker 5: been hyping both of these teams up. Not only what
1:00:09
Speaker 5: you've got at the quarterback position for both, but the
1:00:12
Speaker 5: production coming back on the Virginia side after an 11-win season,
1:00:15
Speaker 5: the schedule for NC State. What a fun game this
1:00:19
Speaker 5: weekend at Charlottesville.
1:00:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's actually a conference game this time around.
1:00:23
Speaker 8: So good for the ACC on getting that one right. Listen,
1:00:28
Speaker 8: let's start with Virginia because they, for two years, you
1:00:31
Speaker 8: mentioned NC State's schedule, and you were right. It is
1:00:33
Speaker 8: a schedule set up for a dark horse college football
1:00:36
Speaker 8: playoff run. And Virginia, for two years in a row now,
1:00:40
Speaker 8: has had a similar schedule. Very, very forgiving schedule. The
1:00:45
Speaker 8: thing that Virginia did such a good job with a
1:00:47
Speaker 8: year ago is every single portal guide they brought in
1:00:50
Speaker 8: that needed to pan out, they all panned out. They
1:00:54
Speaker 8: hit on all of them. I mean, the running back
1:00:55
Speaker 8: Jamari Taylor was just unheralded and fantastic. Obviously Chandler Morris.
1:01:01
Speaker 8: They do have a lot of returning components. So the
1:01:03
Speaker 8: question now is, can they do that again? Can they
1:01:06
Speaker 8: replicate their additions in the transfer portal to perform it
1:01:09
Speaker 8: at such a high level? And can Bo Peribula, who's
1:01:12
Speaker 8: uber-talented physically, can he stay healthy as well? Because he's
1:01:16
Speaker 8: had a bit of a track record of not being
1:01:18
Speaker 8: able to do so. I think NC State, if we're
1:01:21
Speaker 8: having ACC conversations about who's the team behind Miami, I
1:01:24
Speaker 8: think it probably starts with some combination of NC State, Louisville,
1:01:29
Speaker 8: and SMU. But that quarterback at NC State is really,
1:01:33
Speaker 8: really special. And even though they lost Hollywood Smothers to Texas–
1:01:37
Speaker 8: Duke Scott is, is a load of a tailback. So
1:01:40
Speaker 8: I think they're going to run the ball more effectively.
1:01:44
Speaker 8: Two things have to happen for NC state to get
1:01:46
Speaker 8: a 10 plus win season. They got to get off
1:01:48
Speaker 8: the field on third down and they got to limit
1:01:50
Speaker 8: their explosive plays given up on defense. Those were two
1:01:53
Speaker 8: things that haunted that defense a year ago, but offensively
1:01:57
Speaker 8: they could be as good as they've been maybe top
1:01:59
Speaker 8: what they've been the last two years and having the
1:02:04
Speaker 8: you know, the familiarity of a returning three-year starter at quarterback,
1:02:07
Speaker 8: which is becoming increasingly rare now in college football, gives
1:02:10
Speaker 8: them huge advantages. I actually like NC State in this game,
1:02:15
Speaker 8: but I agree. I think this is going to be
1:02:16
Speaker 8: a great football game on Saturday.
1:02:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I like NC State.
1:02:20
Speaker 4: C.J.
1:02:20
Speaker 1: Bailey, a quarterback, is the reason why. Come on, dude.
1:02:24
Speaker 1: They did not lose smothers to Texas, they lost him
1:02:28
Speaker 1: to Alabama. Alabama then lost him to Texas. I know
1:02:33
Speaker 1: where he ended up. Yeah, yeah. Come on now.
1:02:35
Speaker 4: Come on.
1:02:36
Speaker 1: Hey, Memphis and UNLV, why is Dan Mullen working at UNLV,
1:02:41
Speaker 1: like not working, having a job? Why is it successful
1:02:45
Speaker 1: at UNLV now for him after one year? And can
1:02:48
Speaker 1: he really win with Jackson Arnold? They play 9 o'clock Central,
1:02:52
Speaker 1: 10 Eastern on Fox on Saturday night. That's a great
1:02:55
Speaker 1: G6 playoff contender game. Why is Dan Mullen working in
1:03:01
Speaker 1: the desert?
1:03:02
Speaker 8: Well, number one, I think he inherited a pretty good roster, right?
1:03:07
Speaker 8: That wasn't a dumpster fire. And the fact that he
1:03:11
Speaker 8: got Anthony Calandria to play the way he did last
1:03:16
Speaker 8: year after what was an extremely inconsistent up and down
1:03:21
Speaker 8: career at Virginia, where it included a lot of turnovers,
1:03:24
Speaker 8: a lot of frustration for the Virginia fan base. I
1:03:27
Speaker 8: was stunned when he took him. I was like, why
1:03:29
Speaker 8: is he taking this guy? And then he turned him
1:03:32
Speaker 8: into a consistent performer. If he can get that out
1:03:36
Speaker 8: of Jackson Arnold, I think he already has a returning
1:03:39
Speaker 8: roster that's That's pretty talented, but it wasn't as big
1:03:42
Speaker 8: of a rebuild. In fact, I don't even think it
1:03:44
Speaker 8: was a rebuild at all. I think it was add
1:03:45
Speaker 8: compliments to it. Dan Mullins won a lot of football
1:03:48
Speaker 8: games everywhere he's been. And I think in this particular instance,
1:03:53
Speaker 8: he's at a place where he's relaxed. He's not dealing
1:03:57
Speaker 8: with fan base pressure. He's not dealing with frustrations of this, that,
1:04:01
Speaker 8: and the other. Man, he's out in the desert and
1:04:03
Speaker 8: he's coaching ball where not many people are paying attention
1:04:06
Speaker 8: and he's got this team competitive. And I think he's
1:04:08
Speaker 8: having fun doing it.
1:04:09
Speaker 2: He's relaxed.
1:04:09
Speaker 3: Aside from the controversy around this, which is sizable, the
1:04:14
Speaker 3: Daquan Wright return to LSU if that indeed happens. What
1:04:18
Speaker 3: does he bring to LSU? Obviously, he played for Charlie
1:04:21
Speaker 3: Weiss Jr. and Lane Kiffin last year at Ole Miss
1:04:24
Speaker 3: before going to the Cleveland Browns and now back to LSU.
1:04:27
Speaker 3: What would he bring to that LSU offense?
1:04:30
Speaker 8: Well, obviously, there's familiarity there, right? I mean, I think
1:04:32
Speaker 8: you widen the line of scrimmage, which helps you out
1:04:35
Speaker 8: in the run game. gives you a target that you've
1:04:37
Speaker 8: got that you know that you rely on, that you
1:04:40
Speaker 8: know exactly what he brings, and he's probably going to
1:04:42
Speaker 8: get a pay raise.
1:04:44
Speaker 1: From Cleveland or from Ole Miss or both? Yeah, both.
1:04:48
Speaker 1: I mean, practice squad guys make $ 250, 000. Yeah, no, it's
1:04:51
Speaker 1: a pay.
1:04:51
Speaker 3: Raise from both Oxford and Cleveland, yes.
1:04:55
Speaker 8: There's no secret why these guys are doing that. They're
1:04:58
Speaker 8: realizing what the real world's all about, and all of
1:05:01
Speaker 8: a sudden, if they got another year of eligibility, they
1:05:03
Speaker 8: might not make an NFL roster anymore. You want to
1:05:05
Speaker 8: go get a real job or you want to go
1:05:06
Speaker 8: file a lawsuit and try to play another year?
1:05:09
Speaker 1: Luke and Bill, you.
1:05:09
Speaker 5: Will be in the booth for a lot of Big
1:05:11
Speaker 5: 12 action this year. And I do think the Big
1:05:13
Speaker 5: 12 has got underrated quarterbacks all over the place.
1:05:17
Speaker 1: Are you not? I don't know.
1:05:19
Speaker 8: I'm in noon or 3.30 on ESPN2. I could be anywhere.
1:05:23
Speaker 8: But I hope I get a lot of Big 12.
1:05:24
Speaker 5: I was just talking to your sideline reporter a couple
1:05:27
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, and she assumes that you guys are
1:05:30
Speaker 5: going to be in a lot of Big 12 stadiums.
1:05:33
Speaker 1: We shall see.
1:05:34
Speaker 5: With that said, I do think the Big 12 is
1:05:36
Speaker 5: maybe the most underrated quarterback league this year. When you
1:05:39
Speaker 5: look at guys like Fafita and Bachmeier and Dampier and
1:05:43
Speaker 5: Will Hammond when he's healthy and Avery Johnson. But I
1:05:46
Speaker 5: was going to ask you, is the best of the
1:05:48
Speaker 5: bunch maybe Mestemaker coming in year one under Eric Morse
1:05:51
Speaker 5: at Oklahoma State?
1:05:53
Speaker 1: You know..
1:05:54
Speaker 8: He clearly has been the most productive guy from last
1:05:59
Speaker 8: year to this year, returning that you would say, okay,
1:06:01
Speaker 8: follow the coach, follow the scheme. You got to make
1:06:04
Speaker 8: the jump from the G five to the power four
1:06:06
Speaker 8: level of competition. And you're, you're talking about the most
1:06:09
Speaker 8: transformative roster in all of college football. It's probably not
1:06:12
Speaker 8: even close. You know, it's a, it's a, it's like
1:06:14
Speaker 8: an expansion team of free agents. So I think that, uh,
1:06:20
Speaker 8: I think he's probably– the list is up there with him. And,
1:06:23
Speaker 8: you know, you just listed a lot of guys that
1:06:25
Speaker 8: are really, really good quarterbacks. I totally agree with what
1:06:28
Speaker 8: you're saying. I think the quarterback play in that league
1:06:31
Speaker 8: is going to be outstanding. You've got Connor Wigman and
1:06:33
Speaker 8: Keison Henderson, the true freshman down at Houston. I think
1:06:35
Speaker 8: Houston's a dark horse. Jaden Craig, who I love coming
1:06:39
Speaker 8: from Harvard over to take over TCU. I think he's
1:06:42
Speaker 8: going to be one of the surprise players in all
1:06:44
Speaker 8: of college football. So if I get a lot of
1:06:47
Speaker 8: Big 12 teams– I'm going to be excited because I
1:06:50
Speaker 8: know I'm going to get good offensive football each and
1:06:52
Speaker 8: every week.
1:06:54
Speaker 5: So we always talk a little television or film with you.
1:06:58
Speaker 5: Are you watching Furious right now on Hulu?
1:07:01
Speaker 8: Yes, totally caught up, and I love it.
1:07:03
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:07:04
Speaker 2: I don't know how they make Emmy Rossum look so bad.
1:07:07
Speaker 8: Oh, God, she looks awful.
1:07:08
Speaker 4: She looks awful.
1:07:09
Speaker 5: But outside of that, it's a really interesting– it was
1:07:12
Speaker 5: kind of a slow burn early, but it's found its way,
1:07:15
Speaker 5: and I think it's rounded into a really, really good show.
1:07:18
Speaker 8: I totally agree with you. And the thing is, I've
1:07:20
Speaker 8: never seen the gal that plays the villain. I've never
1:07:22
Speaker 8: seen her before. I didn't, I didn't recognize her. She
1:07:25
Speaker 8: is fantastic. I love the whole concept behind it. It's
1:07:29
Speaker 8: a really good idea and they're executing it well. Uh,
1:07:32
Speaker 8: so yeah, we're, we're, uh, finished three. So I'll get
1:07:37
Speaker 8: ready to watch that again because that is the funniest
1:07:40
Speaker 8: show on, on streaming right now.
1:07:42
Speaker 5: And I am a, a big Kyle Chandler fan. I'm
1:07:45
Speaker 5: not a comic book guy, but I've been watching lanterns.
1:07:48
Speaker 4: I didn't know i'm not.
1:07:49
Speaker 8: On episode two yet but i did like episode one
1:07:51
Speaker 8: i think it's got some.
1:07:52
Speaker 1: Legs yeah yeah and look he was a true detective
1:07:54
Speaker 1: like vibes does.
1:07:55
Speaker 5: It uh yeah but more with aliens yeah but i
1:07:59
Speaker 5: guess that's the uh we were talking last week i
1:08:01
Speaker 5: didn't know the origin of green lantern but uh i
1:08:04
Speaker 5: don't i don't either yeah but it's got a lot
1:08:06
Speaker 5: of potential yeah.
1:08:08
Speaker 8: It does because it it kind of comes off like
1:08:10
Speaker 8: it's not a superhero show because you know they're all
1:08:12
Speaker 8: dressed in you know normal street clothes nobody's wearing at
1:08:16
Speaker 8: least in the first episode you know nobody's wearing costumes
1:08:18
Speaker 8: nobody's you know none of that stuff's emerged yet so
1:08:21
Speaker 8: i i kind of i like the first episode was
1:08:23
Speaker 8: the second one good.
1:08:24
Speaker 5: Uh yeah really good i mean you know it's it's
1:08:27
Speaker 5: kind of logan like as far as like drinking you
1:08:29
Speaker 5: know the adult language things that you didn't necessarily which
1:08:33
Speaker 5: is you know very refreshing i think.
1:08:35
Speaker 8: No i'm i'm with you on that my my um
1:08:39
Speaker 8: My wife's big into documentaries right now. There's this gal
1:08:43
Speaker 8: on Instagram. She's called The Documentary Girl. And all she
1:08:47
Speaker 8: does is go on there and give little 35, 40
1:08:51
Speaker 8: second snippets of documentaries. She's watched thousands of them. And
1:08:55
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, man. every one of them recommends. Does
1:08:59
Speaker 8: she show her feet?
1:08:59
Speaker 1: Does she show her feet? It's a done-away prerequisite. I
1:09:03
Speaker 1: am going to look this up and study my algorithm.
1:09:06
Speaker 8: Oh, my God, that's too good. But she's been fantastic.
1:09:09
Speaker 8: Everything she recommends has been fantastic. So we've been catching
1:09:12
Speaker 8: up on a lot of documents. And I'm not generally
1:09:13
Speaker 8: a big documentary guy, except... The best documentary I have
1:09:18
Speaker 8: ever seen. Have you guys seen The Dark Wizard on
1:09:20
Speaker 8: HBO Max?
1:09:21
Speaker 1: No, I was going to watch it. That's like the
1:09:23
Speaker 1: mountain climber, right? Or extreme sport.
1:09:26
Speaker 8: Bro, you are not going to believe this guy. It
1:09:30
Speaker 8: is the best. It's the best documentary. I can't even
1:09:34
Speaker 8: believe this guy's human. Like his brain is different than
1:09:37
Speaker 8: every other human on the planet. And I don't know
1:09:40
Speaker 8: what it is, but it pushes him to do things
1:09:44
Speaker 8: that we would not even let come into our mind.
1:09:48
Speaker 5: And then just because Dunaway brought up True Detective, I
1:09:51
Speaker 5: saw one of the best films that I have seen
1:09:53
Speaker 5: over the last five years, a 2014 Spanish film. I
1:09:58
Speaker 5: saw it on Thursday night and watched it again late
1:10:00
Speaker 5: Friday night. It was that good. It's subtitled, it's called Marshland.
1:10:04
Speaker 5: And it takes place in 1980. It was filmed in
1:10:07
Speaker 5: 2014 because when I watched it originally, I was like,
1:10:09
Speaker 5: they had to have copied True Detective season one because
1:10:12
Speaker 5: it's got some of that element. And I looked and
1:10:14
Speaker 5: they both basically came out at the same time in 2014.
1:10:18
Speaker 1: But really, really good.
1:10:21
Speaker 8: Is it dubbed in English or just subtitles with spoken Spanish?
1:10:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, spoken Spanish, subtitled English. What's it on? It is
1:10:28
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. I bought it.
1:10:30
Speaker 13: Yeah.
1:10:31
Speaker 8: Marshland. Okay.
1:10:32
Speaker 1: It's a movie. All right.
1:10:33
Speaker 4: Oh, it's fantastic.
1:10:34
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1:11:52
Speaker 1: Gurley officially retired from football over the weekend. Nick Chubb.
1:11:57
Speaker 1: Can you believe it was Chubb that retired?
1:11:59
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:11:59
Speaker 1: Okay, Nick Chubb retired. I thought it was Gurley that retired. No,
1:12:03
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb.
1:12:04
Speaker 4: Okay, Chubb.
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Speaker 2: Gurley's been out.
1:12:06
Speaker 1: Chubb retired. So Chubb, Sonny Michelle, Todd Gurley, all at
1:12:10
Speaker 1: Georgia at one time. Crazy running back room. And, you know,
1:12:14
Speaker 1: that's the.
1:12:15
Speaker 5: Big question when you look at Georgia this year. Like,
1:12:17
Speaker 5: I think they're going to be– I mean, Nate Frazier
1:12:18
Speaker 5: was really good. They've got, you know, three or four backs.
1:12:21
Speaker 5: But do they have the same skill that they used
1:12:24
Speaker 5: to have? Like, you don't see A.J. Greens anymore at Georgia.
1:12:27
Speaker 5: You don't see even Alad McConkie or Brock Bowers.
1:12:30
Speaker 1: I think if you look at this Georgia run game,
1:12:33
Speaker 1: you don't have to have Gurley, Michelle, and Chubb because
1:12:38
Speaker 1: their offensive line is so good. To me, best offensive
1:12:42
Speaker 1: line in the SEC this year– In Athens, Georgia.
1:12:46
Speaker 2: I could see that.
1:12:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll give you that. It is just amazing, though,
1:12:52
Speaker 3: Kirby has made us kind of forget what Georgia used
1:12:54
Speaker 3: to be. They had all that in the same backfield,
1:12:56
Speaker 3: and that produced how many national championships at Georgia?
1:12:59
Speaker 1: That was under Mark Ritt, who was a pretty good coach.
1:13:03
Speaker 1: So he won how many? Zero.
1:13:05
Speaker 3: I mean, Kirby has made us forget how many players
1:13:07
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1:13:10
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Speaker 5: I don't want to pick this part. Why is he
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Speaker 5: not surfing on an alligator? I mean, crocodiles really aren't indigenous.
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Speaker 5: To the United States.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the problem I saw. Yeah. Because I
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Speaker 1: don't think he ever came across a crocodile. He's not
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Speaker 1: surfing on an indigenous animal. He's surfing on a non-indigenous animal.
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Speaker 6: It's like in Temple of Doom when the guy from
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Speaker 1: World-wide. Maybe a crocodile. Okay, CBS, and this is a
1:15:26
Speaker 1: big-picture thing here, but CBS ranked their Big 12 coaches.
1:15:33
Speaker 1: Texas Tech's Joey McGuire, with the best payroll in the
1:15:36
Speaker 1: Big 12, is ranked third in the league. Yeah. Behind
1:15:40
Speaker 1: Kalani Satake, who's, by the way, in his 11th year
1:15:43
Speaker 1: at BYU, and Willie Fritz of Houston. Is that a
1:15:47
Speaker 1: fair ranking of Joey Maguire?
1:15:49
Speaker 5: Boy, I will tell you, as much as I talk
1:15:51
Speaker 5: about these quarterbacks, the coach is massive question mark in
1:15:56
Speaker 5: the Big 12. Like, I agree, Sataki should be number
1:15:59
Speaker 5: one right there.
1:16:00
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have Maguire up there. He had one really
1:16:02
Speaker 1: good year last year. Before that, it was a couple
1:16:04
Speaker 1: of 7-6s. But I was going to ask the question,
1:16:06
Speaker 1: how many of those Big 12 coaches have coached in
1:16:07
Speaker 1: a college football playoff?
1:16:10
Speaker 2: I mean, Sonny Dykes has.
1:16:11
Speaker 1: He's played for a national championship. Sonny Dykes, Kenny Dillingham,
1:16:14
Speaker 1: and Joey Maguire.
1:16:15
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:16:15
Speaker 1: I think that's it, right? That's the only one. Sonny Dykes,
1:16:17
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham, and Joey Maguire, unless there's one I'm, you know,
1:16:20
Speaker 1: my brain has blinked and I'm just missing one. I mean.
1:16:23
Speaker 1: Last year, it would have been Kyle Whittingham would have
1:16:25
Speaker 1: been number one.
1:16:27
Speaker 10: Ryan, is that the only, I mean. How much credit
1:16:30
Speaker 10: are we really giving Joey McGuire for coaching? I mean,
1:16:33
Speaker 10: it's like Mark Helfrich coached Oregon to a national championship.
1:16:35
Speaker 1: That's the point. That's kind of the point why I
1:16:37
Speaker 1: brought it up here. He doesn't get credit for it.
1:16:39
Speaker 5: I mean, I think four years ago it would have
1:16:41
Speaker 5: been Kyle Whittingham, probably at that point Mike Gundy and
1:16:48
Speaker 5: Matt Campbell. But there's been so much turnover in the
1:16:51
Speaker 5: Big 12, and now you look at the coaches. I mean,
1:16:54
Speaker 5: I don't know who all has got a stable situation.
1:16:57
Speaker 5: I think Arizona does. I guess Arizona State does. BYU definitely.
1:17:00
Speaker 5: Baylor could fire their coach this year. Cincinnati could fire
1:17:03
Speaker 5: their coach. Colorado could fire their coach. Kansas could fire
1:17:07
Speaker 5: their coach.
1:17:08
Speaker 1: I like the great Alabama song, which is called My
1:17:13
Speaker 1: Home's in Alabama. I'm southern born and southern bred. This
1:17:16
Speaker 1: is going to hurt my heart. Power Four Conference coaches,
1:17:20
Speaker 1: Big Ten, one, SEC, two, then ACC or Big 12, third.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: ACC would be third.
1:17:28
Speaker 1: Well, hang on.
1:17:29
Speaker 2: Let's... Yeah, because, I mean, look at this.
1:17:32
Speaker 1: Do you agree with Big Ten 1? Yeah. SEC 2? Dabo?
1:17:38
Speaker 5: I mean, Dabo's Dabo. I think Braum is respected. Cristobal
1:17:42
Speaker 5: just based on the run last year. Dave Duren has
1:17:44
Speaker 5: always been underrated. Bill Belichick, I know it hasn't been
1:17:48
Speaker 5: at Chapel Hill. I think Narduzzi's underrated. Rhett Lashley has
1:17:52
Speaker 5: done a great job there. Key at Georgia Tech's done
1:17:56
Speaker 5: a good job.
1:17:56
Speaker 2: Tony Elliott.
1:17:57
Speaker 4: What's the national perspective of James Franklin at this point?
1:18:00
Speaker 1: I was about to bring up James Franklin. Perfect spot.
1:18:03
Speaker 1: I think it's positive.
1:18:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure ACC better than the Big 12.
1:18:06
Speaker 4: For sure.
1:18:08
Speaker 1: So Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big 12. ACC doesn't contend
1:18:13
Speaker 1: with the SEC, though. No.
1:18:14
Speaker 9: No.
1:18:15
Speaker 1: Because that's the off-season storyline knock on the SEC is maybe,
1:18:20
Speaker 1: and Kirby brought it up, talking about the Big 10,
1:18:22
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart on our show, back in the summer, he said,
1:18:26
Speaker 1: you know, maybe their coaching is better than our coaching.
1:18:29
Speaker 1: And I think I jumped in.
1:18:30
Speaker 4: Oh, come on.
1:18:31
Speaker 1: Oh, come on. That's what Joel Platt would say.
1:18:33
Speaker 5: I think you can go on and say you've got
1:18:35
Speaker 5: four elite coaches in the SEC with other potentials. I
1:18:38
Speaker 5: don't know if you guys would agree with this. I
1:18:39
Speaker 5: think Kalen Abor, I know Alabama fans would laugh.
1:18:42
Speaker 1: And I know they're going to say Lance is going
1:18:44
Speaker 1: to die on this mountain. Kirby Smart.
1:18:46
Speaker 5: I hate to put Lane Kiffin in there, but I
1:18:48
Speaker 5: would put Kiffin. And then I would put Elko. And
1:18:51
Speaker 5: then Heupel, Sarkeesian, Venables, Drink. I mean, you've got other coaches. Sumrall,
1:18:57
Speaker 5: you know, year one. Obviously, Golish year one. So much
1:19:01
Speaker 5: upside for the SEC coaches.
1:19:03
Speaker 1: There's potential for the SEC to pass the Big Ten again.
1:19:06
Speaker 6: Yes.
1:19:06
Speaker 2: For sure.
1:19:07
Speaker 1: It was there for a while, but the SEC could
1:19:09
Speaker 1: pass the Big Ten in coaching.
1:19:10
Speaker 3: Going to need some national championships to do it, though.
1:19:13
Speaker 3: I mean, Kirby can't be the only national championship guy
1:19:15
Speaker 3: you got and the SEC pass him in coaching because
1:19:18
Speaker 3: you got multiple guys.
1:19:20
Speaker 5: But I think there's six other guys that could win
1:19:21
Speaker 5: one this year and you wouldn't be shocked.
1:19:23
Speaker 1: No, no.
1:19:24
Speaker 3: But again, one of the national championship guys left the
1:19:27
Speaker 3: Big Ten, too, in Harbaugh. He's in the NFL now,
1:19:28
Speaker 3: so you've really only got the two in Day and Cignetti.
1:19:31
Speaker 3: um so somebody else gonna have to win one but
1:19:33
Speaker 3: that could happen to your point.
1:19:34
Speaker 5: Yeah but i mean you know oregon is favored by
1:19:37
Speaker 5: a lot of people that would be one for landing
1:19:40
Speaker 5: lincoln riley could have a special year he's still looking
1:19:43
Speaker 5: for that first national championship he could also get fired
1:19:46
Speaker 5: matt campbell you know in year one of penn state
1:19:49
Speaker 5: can do special things with that schedule and daniel brings
1:19:51
Speaker 5: this up in the chat and those of you that
1:19:52
Speaker 5: are new to the show you can jump in that
1:19:53
Speaker 5: youtube chat and uh we we try to get as
1:19:56
Speaker 5: many of those as we can on the show it
1:19:57
Speaker 5: moves fast often but He says Josh Pate is adamant
1:20:00
Speaker 5: that the Big Ten coaching is better because of the staffs,
1:20:02
Speaker 5: not necessarily the top guy, but the staffs.
1:20:05
Speaker 1: That's something I don't follow as closely. I'm not going
1:20:07
Speaker 1: to tell you that. Yeah, diving deep. But I am
1:20:09
Speaker 1: curious if people, maybe Pate is just saying something he's
1:20:12
Speaker 1: been told by many people in the industry, right? That
1:20:14
Speaker 1: if you go top to bottom, the overall staffs are
1:20:17
Speaker 1: better in the Big Ten. But I would give, you know,
1:20:21
Speaker 1: I would give the head coach credit for hiring a
1:20:23
Speaker 1: great staff.
1:20:25
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
1:20:26
Speaker 1: And I'm not disagreeing with Josh Pate. I would never
1:20:29
Speaker 1: do that. You would never do that. Contractually, you're obligated
1:20:31
Speaker 1: to agree with him. I'm saying that one of the
1:20:32
Speaker 1: head coach's jobs is to hire a great coaching staff.
1:20:35
Speaker 4: That's right.
1:20:36
Speaker 1: So..
1:20:36
Speaker 10: Yeah.
1:20:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not using it to discredit the head
1:20:40
Speaker 3: coaches there. I'm saying if you look at it in totality.
1:20:42
Speaker 1: Just like they used to say, Nick Saban had the
1:20:44
Speaker 1: best roster, so of course he should have won. One
1:20:46
Speaker 1: of the jobs of the head coach was to recruit
1:20:49
Speaker 1: a great roster. If your coaches are recruiting on that level,
1:20:51
Speaker 1: he's not doing as good a job as Nick Saban. Yeah,
1:20:52
Speaker 1: and one of those assistants is now in the SEC
1:20:55
Speaker 1: at Jim Knoll.
1:20:55
Speaker 3: Would Smuff ask the question? He doesn't ask it, but
1:20:58
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask it. He says LT will never
1:20:59
Speaker 3: put Sark in any elite place. So I'll ask the question.
1:21:03
Speaker 3: Is it win a national championship?
1:21:04
Speaker 1: Is that the only way? I mean, this is almost
1:21:07
Speaker 1: Joey Maguire-like, though.
1:21:09
Speaker 5: I mean, Sarkis had great jobs before at Washington and USC,
1:21:14
Speaker 5: and now he has done a better job at Texas.
1:21:16
Speaker 5: But losing three games last year with that talent, if
1:21:19
Speaker 5: they were to lose three games again this year, yeah,
1:21:23
Speaker 5: I think it is national championship or bust.
1:21:25
Speaker 2: I really do.
1:21:26
Speaker 1: Forrester, if you can get me the Texas schedule. I
1:21:30
Speaker 1: don't know if you have it supported and stated up
1:21:32
Speaker 1: yet or if you need that.
1:21:33
Speaker 4: Nope. Well, let's see.
1:21:35
Speaker 1: Real quick, do you guys agree with that, though?
1:21:36
Speaker 5: I mean, I know you all like Sark, the guy,
1:21:38
Speaker 5: and it's been an incredible comeback story, and he is
1:21:40
Speaker 5: one of the best play callers in all of football,
1:21:43
Speaker 5: but he still has had elite jobs, and he's never
1:21:46
Speaker 5: won a championship.
1:21:47
Speaker 1: The SEC is... Shane Beamer's probably on the hottest seat
1:21:52
Speaker 1: going into the season, but I was on the Conor
1:21:55
Speaker 1: O'Gara show, and he said, what is your over-under on
1:21:58
Speaker 1: coaches that are fired in the SEC? And I said,
1:22:02
Speaker 1: one and a half. And he said, that's the number
1:22:05
Speaker 1: I had. And I said, I would take the under.
1:22:07
Speaker 1: He said he would take the over. I would take
1:22:09
Speaker 1: the under. I think one coach gets fired. I don't
1:22:11
Speaker 1: know which one. Beamer, for some reason, I think he
1:22:14
Speaker 1: survives this year. I think they have a good enough
1:22:16
Speaker 1: year at South Carolina. He survives. I think Levy has
1:22:19
Speaker 1: a good enough year. But those are, I think, the
1:22:21
Speaker 1: two you would look at. Yeah, the only two, really.
1:22:23
Speaker 1: I mean, Clark Lee is safe, Sark is safe, Elko's safe,
1:22:27
Speaker 1: Heupel's safe. I don't know if Sark is safe, and
1:22:29
Speaker 1: that's what I brought up.
1:22:30
Speaker 5: And that would be absolutely amazing if he got fired
1:22:34
Speaker 5: this year.
1:22:34
Speaker 1: Well, if it was 8-4 and you have all that money,
1:22:39
Speaker 1: and 9-3, because they played Ohio State, they'd still probably
1:22:43
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But 8-4, you miss the playoffs. You've
1:22:47
Speaker 1: basically burned through the Manning years.
1:22:49
Speaker 5: By the way, 9-3 last year with an Ohio State loss,
1:22:51
Speaker 5: and they didn't make it.
1:22:52
Speaker 1: But Ohio State— But you're right. You've wasted Manning if
1:22:55
Speaker 1: he's that good. Ohio State at home, Tennessee on the road,
1:22:59
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Red River, Florida at home, Ole Miss at home,
1:23:04
Speaker 1: LSU on the road, A & M on the road.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: Seven games, if you've somehow lost four of those, then
1:23:11
Speaker 1: if you're the money people at Texas— At some point,
1:23:15
Speaker 1: one of those guys with their big cigars is going
1:23:17
Speaker 1: to say, what are we paying all this money to
1:23:20
Speaker 1: this guy for? You're right about that.
1:23:21
Speaker 3: And let me give you another, I guess, twist to that.
1:23:26
Speaker 3: Do they pull a baseball and go after Elko? The
1:23:29
Speaker 3: other twist to that was, what if on top of that,
1:23:31
Speaker 3: A & M and Texas Tech are in the playoffs?
1:23:33
Speaker 3: And now I'm a Texas booster, big money booster. I'm like,
1:23:36
Speaker 3: we gave him the best roster. Our main rival is
1:23:40
Speaker 3: in the playoffs.
1:23:40
Speaker 6: Worse.
1:23:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. A & M, Texas Tech, Houston, or TCU. Or
1:23:46
Speaker 1: SMU and Houston. You could have four, really. You want
1:23:50
Speaker 1: to make it even worse?
1:23:50
Speaker 4: Oklahoma. Oh, yeah.
1:23:52
Speaker 1: They're a big rival. Let Oklahoma get in that somehow,
1:23:54
Speaker 1: and Texas is the one left out. Because you don't
1:23:57
Speaker 1: get to eight and four unless you lose to Oklahoma. Yeah,
1:23:58
Speaker 1: that's right. Let's lay it out again. Okay, so we
1:24:01
Speaker 1: have A & M there. Yeah. You have Oklahoma there.
1:24:04
Speaker 8: Texas Tech.
1:24:04
Speaker 4: Oklahoma.
1:24:05
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. SMU. SMU. That's not that crazy. And then
1:24:08
Speaker 1: either TC or Houston. I mean, right now we're saying
1:24:11
Speaker 1: Texas Tech is at 12. I'd say two big 12s.
1:24:13
Speaker 2: I'm just saying one of the two.
1:24:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't go that far. Well, you've already got
1:24:16
Speaker 1: Texas Tech in. You're not going to get two big
1:24:18
Speaker 1: 12s in. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right.
1:24:18
Speaker 3: I won't go that far, but it's not insane to
1:24:21
Speaker 3: say Texas A & M, Texas Tech, SMU, and Oklahoma
1:24:24
Speaker 3: are all in the playoffs and Texas is not. That
1:24:26
Speaker 3: is not the most insane thing you could say on
1:24:27
Speaker 3: this show. We've said a lot more insane things.
1:24:29
Speaker 1: Most people watching are like, Oh, Kalen DeBoer's on a
1:24:31
Speaker 1: bigger hot seat than Steve Sarkeesian. I don't think Kalen
1:24:34
Speaker 1: DeBoer's on a hot seat. With that $ 87 million contract,
1:24:39
Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb's on a hot seat, the Alabama OC. I
1:24:42
Speaker 1: don't think Kalen DeBoer's on a hot seat. I don't
1:24:44
Speaker 1: think there's– it would take a– It would take a 6-6.
1:24:47
Speaker 1: A disastrous 6-6 Birmingham Bowl appearance for him to lose
1:24:51
Speaker 1: his job.
1:24:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, 6-6 for Bama this year would be
1:24:53
Speaker 5: 8-4 for Texas. And then, you know, I do think
1:24:56
Speaker 5: everything's on the table. But back to your original conversation
1:24:58
Speaker 5: with Connor, I would play the under one and a half.
1:25:01
Speaker 5: it's hard for 16 guys to survive with the high
1:25:04
Speaker 5: stakes and the money they're getting paid right now. And
1:25:06
Speaker 5: I lean that Beamer would be that guy based on
1:25:08
Speaker 5: schedule and based on where they were last year. I
1:25:10
Speaker 5: do think they'll be improved, but I would definitely go
1:25:12
Speaker 5: under the one and a half. I would be really
1:25:14
Speaker 5: surprised if you have multiple guys lose their job.
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1:25:35
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Speaker 1: Klay Travis. It's not official yet, but Daquan Wright looks
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Speaker 9: How you've been handling the Daquan Wright situation just seems weird, right?
1:27:54
Speaker 9: It seems like he's in the college transfer portal again
1:27:57
Speaker 9: in practice, but then I saw him warming up after
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Speaker 9: the rain delay today.
1:28:02
Speaker 1: Crazy.
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Speaker 14: I mean, I don't even know what to say. I mean,
1:28:06
Speaker 14: as far as I know, he's had a medical issue
1:28:10
Speaker 14: that wasn't allowing him to to practice. Um, that's a medical,
1:28:15
Speaker 14: you know, uh, issue. It's nothing to do with me,
1:28:19
Speaker 14: you know? And then, uh, but, and then he was cleared.
1:28:22
Speaker 14: So we dressed him just in case we had to
1:28:23
Speaker 14: have him. But I mean, I don't know what to say.
1:28:26
Speaker 14: I mean, you know, I wondered why Lane Kiffin reached
1:28:31
Speaker 14: out a week ago. Now I know, I mean, shit,
1:28:33
Speaker 14: I didn't know. Now I know I didn't call him back.
1:28:35
Speaker 14: Now I guess I should have.
1:28:37
Speaker 5: I love the fact that he ghost Lane.
1:28:39
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:28:39
Speaker 5: I didn't call him back doesn't call him back uh
1:28:41
Speaker 5: this is a wild situation and they go on right
1:28:44
Speaker 5: really good player last year in this old miss offense
1:28:48
Speaker 5: you know we've got grumpy greg we got greedy greg
1:28:50
Speaker 5: we had giddy greg talking about greg sankey the sec
1:28:53
Speaker 5: commissioner Up until this probably comes out and he's just like, damn,
1:28:57
Speaker 5: Lane's done this again. I know there was an injunction filed.
1:29:00
Speaker 5: He's got to clear waivers first. But there is no
1:29:03
Speaker 5: way Sankey doesn't push back on this.
1:29:04
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the pushback for Sankey is an internal
1:29:07
Speaker 1: SEC rule that you cannot transfer from one SEC school
1:29:10
Speaker 1: to another, even legally in the portal. This would technically
1:29:15
Speaker 1: be that because of the last college he played for.
1:29:17
Speaker 1: It has to be.
1:29:18
Speaker 3: So that's where Sankey, that's legislation they all agreed to
1:29:22
Speaker 3: and voted on. So that's where he's got to go
1:29:23
Speaker 3: to bat. And protect the other 15 schools because all
1:29:27
Speaker 3: 16 schools voted on that and it passed. So he's
1:29:30
Speaker 3: going to have to battle that. This is why Andrew Brandt,
1:29:33
Speaker 3: who's in the media world now, but he worked in
1:29:36
Speaker 3: the NFL for a long time, he says, I have
1:29:37
Speaker 3: talked to multiple NFL front office people that say players
1:29:42
Speaker 3: are coming to them saying, can you go ahead and
1:29:44
Speaker 3: cut me? Yeah, so I can get back.
1:29:46
Speaker 1: So I can get back in the pool before the
1:29:47
Speaker 1: season starts. They know they're going to get cut anyway.
1:29:49
Speaker 5: I know this is a business now with the money
1:29:51
Speaker 5: these guys are making. But there was a time where
1:29:54
Speaker 5: it meant something for your guys to be able to–
1:29:58
Speaker 5: your 100 or your 85 scholarship guys and your 100-plus
1:30:02
Speaker 5: guys that were busting their ass in the spring and
1:30:04
Speaker 5: the summer, and they earned a spot on that roster.
1:30:08
Speaker 5: If Daquan Wright gets cleared and he is playing for LSU,
1:30:11
Speaker 5: I would assume you've got to get somebody off that
1:30:13
Speaker 5: roster that has been busting their ass.
1:30:16
Speaker 1: Well, I will use– I'll use Ole Miss baseball as
1:30:18
Speaker 1: an example. They lost– I can't remember. I think it's–
1:30:22
Speaker 1: I know one of them is their first baseman. My
1:30:24
Speaker 1: buddy Johnny was telling me about this on the golf course.
1:30:26
Speaker 1: And maybe their third baseman. And both of them went
1:30:31
Speaker 1: into the draft. Or no, they were out of eligibility
1:30:34
Speaker 1: because of the four years. They passed this 5-5, and
1:30:37
Speaker 1: now because it's an injunction, they're coming back to school. Well,
1:30:41
Speaker 1: they had paid this money to get this stud first
1:30:44
Speaker 1: baseman who was this big hitter and a third baseman
1:30:47
Speaker 1: to come play for Ole Miss this year. And now
1:30:49
Speaker 1: you've got your two guys who are coming back from
1:30:51
Speaker 1: last year coming back on the team. And these two guys,
1:30:54
Speaker 1: now they're getting paid, but they came thinking they were
1:30:57
Speaker 1: going to be starting at Ole Miss.
1:30:58
Speaker 5: Well, this complicates everything because Ole Miss has only got
1:31:01
Speaker 5: so much money they can pay in NIL for baseball.
1:31:03
Speaker 5: And now you've got four different guys you've got to pay.
1:31:06
Speaker 1: Ultimately, Dan Lanning is the first of what every coach
1:31:10
Speaker 1: should be doing because I know it's going to help
1:31:13
Speaker 1: Lane and Ole Miss and whoever else tries to get
1:31:15
Speaker 1: these kind of players. But ultimately, Dan Lanning is a
1:31:18
Speaker 1: national championship contender. This is what he believes.
1:31:22
Speaker 12: Your thoughts just on guys coming from the NFL back
1:31:26
Speaker 12: to college. I know you guys aren't really interested in
1:31:28
Speaker 12: the five for five, but just the state of college
1:31:31
Speaker 12: athletics right now from college every sport just seems like
1:31:34
Speaker 12: who's eligible. You don't really know what's your, your feelings
1:31:36
Speaker 12: on that.
1:31:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:31:37
Speaker 15: I mean, I think there's a lot of negatives that
1:31:40
Speaker 15: are involved around this one. Once you go to the NFL,
1:31:42
Speaker 15: to me, you're in the NFL, you don't get the
1:31:44
Speaker 15: opportunity to come back to, you know, most of us
1:31:46
Speaker 15: have built our rosters and you have a limited roster
1:31:49
Speaker 15: limit now. So if you invited somebody back to your team,
1:31:51
Speaker 15: that means you're kicking somebody else off your team, right.
1:31:53
Speaker 8: To match your roster limits.
1:31:54
Speaker 15: I don't think that's fair to the players that worked
1:31:56
Speaker 15: all summer, all spring, um, and put themselves in position
1:31:59
Speaker 15: to be ready to work for a team, um, you know,
1:32:01
Speaker 15: to have somebody come back. But ultimately, you know, it
1:32:04
Speaker 15: used to be once you had an agent or once
1:32:05
Speaker 15: you went and did the combine or once you went
1:32:08
Speaker 15: to many, I mean, all those things qualified as you
1:32:09
Speaker 15: are no longer an amateur, you're a professional now, once
1:32:12
Speaker 15: you declare for the draft. So to let any of
1:32:14
Speaker 15: those players come back, you know, fair or unfair to them,
1:32:17
Speaker 15: it's unfair to the sport. And I think it's unfair
1:32:19
Speaker 15: to the players that are on current teams, you know,
1:32:21
Speaker 15: for those guys to be coming back.
1:32:23
Speaker 5: I do think that it's a little unique to, that
1:32:26
Speaker 5: now we got five and five this year should clear
1:32:28
Speaker 5: it up though right like after this year i mean
1:32:31
Speaker 5: it is pretty set in stone five years or five
1:32:35
Speaker 5: years of eligibility in five years until some guy goes
1:32:39
Speaker 5: back and sues and says i only got four years
1:32:41
Speaker 5: and what does the court do then i don't you
1:32:43
Speaker 5: know courts do anything now and that's the whole thing
1:32:45
Speaker 5: about this i don't know.
1:32:46
Speaker 1: Like and i assume that's five and five now where
1:32:49
Speaker 1: even if i blow out my knee like some guys
1:32:51
Speaker 1: have in camp i'm not gonna play the whole year
1:32:54
Speaker 1: if i'm out of my five i'm out of my
1:32:56
Speaker 1: five it's just tough break back to the start of
1:32:58
Speaker 1: our show we were talking about austin mack not getting
1:33:00
Speaker 1: the bama starting job and someone in the chat said
1:33:03
Speaker 1: austin mack is a senior but i don't even know
1:33:04
Speaker 1: what that means anymore yeah no he's got a year
1:33:06
Speaker 1: yeah he's got a year he's only i know but
1:33:08
Speaker 1: you understand what they're saying he's a senior i don't
1:33:10
Speaker 1: even know what that means anymore and whether he's got
1:33:12
Speaker 1: another year or not like just because the guy's a
1:33:14
Speaker 1: senior just because the guy's junior it really means nothing
1:33:16
Speaker 1: anymore and i and as dan lanning says but now
1:33:20
Speaker 1: do you guys honestly believe let's play this out Dante
1:33:23
Speaker 1: Moore went to the NFL, didn't get drafted where he
1:33:25
Speaker 1: thought he was going to, has struggled a little bit.
1:33:28
Speaker 1: And preseason is like, I needed another year at Oregon.
1:33:30
Speaker 1: And he goes back and he goes, nah, we're good.
1:33:33
Speaker 8: Oh, no.
1:33:33
Speaker 1: No, I do. You believe that? I believe Dan Lanning
1:33:36
Speaker 1: is a man of his word. He would be starting.
1:33:37
Speaker 5: If Raiola is blowing up, yeah. But if not, I
1:33:43
Speaker 5: go with you, Brown. I think Dante Moore would be back,
1:33:46
Speaker 5: and he would, hey, look, this is unique.
1:33:48
Speaker 1: Boy, that would be the test of his stance right there.
1:33:51
Speaker 1: If that had happened, now obviously that's a huge what if.
1:33:54
Speaker 5: Or if he says, hey, we can't have the competitive advantage,
1:33:56
Speaker 5: like everybody's got a competitive advantage over us because everybody
1:33:58
Speaker 5: else is doing it.
1:33:59
Speaker 1: Now we have the opportunity to do it. I don't
1:34:01
Speaker 1: like it, but it's.
1:34:02
Speaker 3: The way it is now. I mean, Landmine Believer is
1:34:04
Speaker 3: right now. He's a Bama guy. But, boy, the outrage
1:34:07
Speaker 3: over Betty Occo seems small potatoes now compared to this.
1:34:09
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Speaker 1: Saturday for LSU Ole Miss weekend. I don't know how
1:35:50
Speaker 1: big the Oxford Police Department is, but God bless them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they have to be like, you've got
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Speaker 5: to be kidding. Now, game day is coming in. I
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Speaker 5: guess they already knew this before.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they had planned on game day, but then,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be exhausted. You've got to do traffic
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Speaker 1: and security for Ella, or traffic for Ella Langley, traffic
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Speaker 1: for game day, traffic for the freaking game, and security.
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Speaker 1: I mean, my Lord.
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Speaker 5: You guys have been there since I've been there, because
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Speaker 5: y'all went, you know, the back-to-back years, I guess, Hugh
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Speaker 5: Freeze beat Nick Saban. I haven't been to Oxford in
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Speaker 5: probably 20 years, but I thought the infrastructure was kind
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Speaker 5: of weak back then. Like a lot of SEC towns,
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Speaker 5: they didn't have the hotels. The Grove was way too much.
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Speaker 2: I would assume.
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Speaker 1: I think I was there and people who are watching
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Speaker 1: in Mississippi, let me know. I think I was there.
1:36:39
Speaker 1: I can't remember if you were with me or not.
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Speaker 1: Katy Perry weekend. Were you with me? I did not
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Speaker 1: go to that one.
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Speaker 4: I was there.
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Speaker 1: Katy Perry weekend when Katy Perry was on game day.
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Speaker 1: and they basically had the National Guard set checkpoints up,
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Speaker 1: and there were so many people in town, you couldn't
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Speaker 1: go inside the perimeter of downtown Oxford because the streets
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Speaker 1: were too crowded. So you had to pass a checkpoint
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Speaker 1: of National Guard people just to go to downtown. I
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Speaker 1: think that's the most crowded Oxford, Mississippi has ever been
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Speaker 1: until this weekend. Week three.
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Speaker 5: Do you think somebody would trade a front row seat
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Speaker 5: to Ella Langley for a nosebleed to LSU Ole Miss?
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, because get-ins are $ 600. For Ella Langley or
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Speaker 1: LSU Ole Miss?
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Speaker 2: No, for LSU Ole Miss.
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Speaker 4: Oh, is that it?
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Speaker 1: That's a low get-in. That's a get-in. Yeah, but $ 600.
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Speaker 1: That's low for this game. I mean, I would have
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Speaker 1: fought over $ 1, 000. Wow. Listen, I'm bad at— Probably since
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Speaker 1: the one Jim was talking about, I could be off
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Speaker 1: on that one. Probably, but still 600 for a get in.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty steep. I bet Brooks remembers this. Maybe Forrester.
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Speaker 1: Who was the quarterback that she sort of flirted with?
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Speaker 1: Trevor Knight. Trevor Knight. Lance got it. She shouted him
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Speaker 1: out during game day, right?
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Speaker 2: She had no idea who he was.
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Speaker 1: She did. She did the call.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think she did that trip call. Yeah, when she
1:38:08
Speaker 1: was making her picks, she had corn dogs, too, when
1:38:10
Speaker 1: she was making an LSU pick. She did a damn
1:38:13
Speaker 1: stage dive from whatever bar she was in. Yeah, after
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Speaker 1: the game that night. After the game. And she stayed
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Speaker 1: for the game. I mean, she was in the stands
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Speaker 1: and on the sidelines for the game. I'm sure somebody's
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Speaker 1: got a story. And that was a field rush, right?
1:38:25
Speaker 1: That was a field rush. Of course it was. It
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Speaker 1: was a Nick Saban loss. They all came with a
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Speaker 1: field rush.
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Speaker 8: Didn't they?
1:38:30
Speaker 4: Not just Nick Saban. It's Alabama in general.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Saban era was one field rush. Well,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't one after another because they rarely lost, but
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Speaker 1: They all came with a film cast.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to say this will be the
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Speaker 5: most amazing scene or atmosphere we've seen in the history.
1:38:43
Speaker 1: Of college football.
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Speaker 5: It's going to be tough to top 2011 in Tuscaloosa. 2011, 2019, LSU, Alabama,
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Speaker 5: both of those. I was at both. I don't know
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Speaker 5: how you could have more than what you had with Oxford.
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Speaker 1: Now, I would not rule out President Trump also being there,
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Speaker 1: but President Trump was at one of those, which anytime
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Speaker 1: the president comes in.
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Speaker 2: He's not showing up in Oxford.
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: That guy loves going to sporting events. I know he does.
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Speaker 7: I mean, if it's the biggest game of the season,
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Speaker 7: all the more reason for him to show up.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that it is the biggest game of
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Speaker 1: the season. It's going to be one of the most anticipated.
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Speaker 7: All right, biggest SEC matchup of the season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe so. I didn't mean to. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it could end up being the biggest game. It'll be
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Speaker 1: the biggest circus by far. The biggest circus for sure.
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Speaker 1: And maybe that'll drag him in, too. Yeah, that is
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Speaker 1: the one thing the Oxford Police Department are sentencing. Oh,
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Speaker 1: my gosh.
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Speaker 10: There was an estimated 150,000 people on campus at Tuscaloosa
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Speaker 10: for the Game of the Century in 2011.
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Speaker 4: Do you think this will exceed that?
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And I'm with Lance. We don't talk about it enough.
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Speaker 1: There may have been just as many people there for
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Speaker 1: 2019 Alabama LSU. I think there was. Including the president.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It gets forgotten how big that one was because it
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Speaker 1: doesn't get called the Game of the Century like 2011 did.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: But, yes, to Brooks' question, I think Oxford, Mississippi– We'll
1:39:57
Speaker 1: hit critical mass. There'll be more people than the city
1:39:59
Speaker 1: can handle by a bunch that day.
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Speaker 10: Well, and what's crazy about that is, you know, Brian
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Speaker 10: Denny seats 100,000. So there was maybe 50,000 outside the stadium.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your number is low. I think there's 100.
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Speaker 1: 150,000 outside the stadium.
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Speaker 10: Maybe there was, but my point being, there's only 67,000 seats.
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Speaker 10: That's right.
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Speaker 4: Much smaller. If there's that many people there, how many
1:40:21
Speaker 4: are going to be outside the stadium?
1:40:22
Speaker 1: That's why I thought the ticket would be higher. Final
1:40:24
Speaker 1: 30 minutes of the show here. Missouri's Ahmad Hardy looks
1:40:27
Speaker 1: like he's coming back mid-September, according to Drink.
1:40:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, that's good news that Missouri should
1:40:33
Speaker 5: be able to get him at 100%. I'm trying to
1:40:35
Speaker 5: remember Missouri's early schedule. Like, what games will he miss?
1:40:40
Speaker 1: Some meaningful games, but not the heart of the schedule.
1:40:44
Speaker 1: SMU is getting Kevin Jennings back to practice. He's been
1:40:47
Speaker 1: battling a jammed finger. He should get two weeks of prep,
1:40:50
Speaker 1: according to Rhett Lashley, and be able to go in
1:40:53
Speaker 1: the Labor Day Nights opener, SMU at Florida State, in
1:40:56
Speaker 1: the new rebuilt Doak on a Monday night. That's the
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