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Pet Health Crisis: What’s Really Making Pets Sick So Young | Dr. Ruth Roberts · Non-Toxic Living

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What do you think the main reason pets are getting sicker, queer?
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Feed them garbage, prone, flammatory food, and give them water that's contaminated with all the things.
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And don't get them outside to exercise. That's a recipe for disaster.
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You can take pets and turn pets into pet food?
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No, it's not supposed to happen, but it has in the past.
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And so, for some of these smaller companies, periodically, that's an issue that pops up.
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And other countries? No, in the United States.
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Yes.
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I mean, this is one of the most dirty industry.
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Yeah, it is. It truly is.
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Why do you believe Kibble is worse than fast food?
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I mean, there's been several studies that have shown that Kibble has some of the highest content of microplastics in all of the processed foods out there.
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Oh my gosh.
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And this is the most horrifying thing is that...
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Dr. Ruth, welcome to the show.
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Thanks, Warren. Always a pleasure.
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Yeah, this is going to be a lot of fun. So vet health, right?
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Right. Let's get right at it.
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Why is traditional veterinarians failing pets?
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I think a lot of it is that because veterinary medicine has become so corporatized,
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veterinarians are now down to a six to 12-minute appointment slot.
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And what they're dealing with is chronic disease.
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And you can't talk your client through the steps, even if you're coming from a purely conventional aspect in 12 minutes.
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The other part is that veterinary medicine got locked up in evidence-based medicine,
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even though on the human side we know that less than 11% of evidence-based medicine recommendations are actually substantiated by evidence.
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So we're just doing what we've always done because that's the way to do it.
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And honestly, too, I think there are small inroads coming, like in 2006,
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I'm talking about leaky gut syndrome and intestinal dysbiosis,
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and I was a whack job, and this is now mainstream.
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It's just that medicine changes so slowly.
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But in the process, our pets are suffering because clients can't get the care that they need.
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They can't get the information, and the solutions are always pharmaceutical-based instead of looking at the entire picture.
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It's really sad, like we're looking at functional medicine and the movement that's happening right now,
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and that same playbook that's making the world sick, especially American sick,
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among the sickest countries in the world, because we're using toxic medications
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that should only be used in emergencies to cover symptoms and not get to the root cause.
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And we took that same playbook on something that can't even choose for itself.
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At least as an adult, I can choose to take or not take the medicine,
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but here's an animal that can't choose on its own, and we're choosing for it,
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and we're giving it, would you agree, poisonous medications in many cases?
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Absolutely, and what you said earlier, many of these are meant for emergency use only,
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and thank God for them, right?
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If you've got a kidney infection antibiotics are going to help you out.
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That's an emergency situation, but the problem is that these medications meant for short-term use
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are becoming lifelong usage as early as two years of age.
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So the other big issue is that clients don't know who to trust.
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They don't quite trust their veterinarian anymore.
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They're flocking to influencers on social media.
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Some of them have great information. Some of them really don't,
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and they're in there to make a buck, and it's difficult for the client for the pet parent
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to make those decisions. Like, is this person the real deal?
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Are they not the real deal?
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Back up one second here. Like you were a traditional vet.
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Right.
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Doing traditional practices.
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What's your story? Like, how did you wind up here?
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How did you become a functional medicine veterinarian if you will?
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I mean, so I woke up January 1st, 2005,
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realising I was nothing but a shield for drug companies.
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And by that time, I'd been eating the standard American diet.
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It was more than 80 pounds heavier than I am currently.
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I developed fibromyalgia, IBS.
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And so this is what makes a doctor,
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either become a better doctor because they want a different solution
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or completely fail.
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And I was fortunate enough to have seen many of my clients being diagnosed with fibromyalgia
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being turned into the junkie.
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It just was horrible. And this was even before the opioid epidemic.
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And I knew that's not what I wanted.
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And so I started looking around.
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I was fortunate to find a functional medicine doctor in my hometown.
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And he worked with me, did all of the things in terms of removing toxins,
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fixing the microbiome, fixing my thyroid, getting things back online
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to where I could make these lifestyle choices
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and start to see my health improve over six months.
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You weren't a pet, but you became your first pet functional medicine pet patient.
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Right.
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And so when you saw that these getting to the root cause of why you didn't feel well,
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while you had chronic pain, instead of getting on a pain med,
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and I had fibromyalgia as well, but if a dog has pain and is limping,
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they get them on a pain med.
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Right.
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And it's not good to keep them. There's tons of side effects.
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Right.
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So when you discovered that functional medicine and getting to the root cause helped you,
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was that turning point?
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Exactly.
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And to be fair, I started studying a traditional Chinese veterinary medicine,
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but I'm feeling myself get better and I'm thinking,
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why aren't we doing this for dogs and cats?
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And so that's what I did is figure out how to adapt some of those protocols
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and how to create a whole food diet for dogs and cats
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that would actually nourish them instead of robbing them of their vitality.
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And that's where the original crock pet diet was born.
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Yeah, just heard about the crock pet diet.
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Right on.
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Yeah.
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So the thing is, is that I started, I got the courage,
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because my dog, Napinthe, had a bacterial endocarditis,
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which is a bacterial infection on your heart valve is not good.
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And most dogs die.
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So we got our stabilized using conventional medicine,
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went, took her down with me while we're studying TCBM.
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My teachers are like, okay, do these acupoints, use these herbs,
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and start cooking for her.
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She would not let me put needle center.
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She thought the herbs were okay.
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She thought cooking for her was an outstanding idea.
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And literally, Warren, I watched on ultrasound
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as a one centimeter lesion on her heart valve
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disappeared down to three millimeters,
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which is the width of a piece of paper.
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That's not supposed to happen.
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It's always wanting to heal itself.
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Yes.
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It's always wanting to protect itself,
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even with certain types of cancers.
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It's encapsulating.
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There's lots of stuff around this.
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But we think that, oh, there's no hope.
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But the body's crying to heal itself.
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And once you give it, remove the interference
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or give it the nutrients that it needs it will heal.
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And that's what's nice.
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But here's the question that dogs and cats,
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or I think there's this belief that they're more resilient
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because they're an animal, right?
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But they get sick, they get sicker quicker.
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In my opinion.
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Yes.
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But they heal faster as well.
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Right.
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So you get to see miracles in your clinic
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and see pets that were essentially
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had the death sentence that are now
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able to restore their health and become
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that essentially a caregiver to a family.
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And that's it.
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I mean, and this is a whole other topic.
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But part of what makes pets sick,
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aside from all of the things we talk about all the time,
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is that they are buffering our emotional state.
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And we are stressed to the gills.
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And so if we stay in that sympathetic state,
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that fight or flight state all the time,
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so are they.
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And so if we can help bring ourselves down,
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they come down, they can start to heal.
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We can start to heal.
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And as a family, we can start to shift
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the whole experience from one of battling health conditions
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to one of remembering how to get back to health.
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I love them.
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Like in animals art, that's why people love them so much.
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I mean, they're in at some level.
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They're taking on an abuse.
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They're taking on our cares and our worries
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and our fears.
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They can feel courses can feel.
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Yes.
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They're, we stop believing in energy medicine,
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you know, in America and replace it with, you know,
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oil-based, oil-based foods, oil-based medicines, oil-based
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oil-based shampoos and products that are 50% oil-based,
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like we oil-based, and then we guess we have for the pets.
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Right.
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Oil-based shampoos, oil-based medications,
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oil-based toys, plastics and chemicals.
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Right.
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That are causing inflammation and disease.
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So this, our economy is oil-based, right?
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So we've, it's infiltrated our food,
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the pesticides, the herbicides,
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and it's, we haven't, we're not in symbiotic relationship
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with chemicals.
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No.
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We're in symbiotic relationship with healthy bacteria.
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We're in symbiotic relationship with the sunshine.
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And that's why our dogs or pets need to be grounded.
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They need to be in their sunshine.
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They need to drink clean water.
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They need to eat nutritious foods.
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And we've turned it into fast food pets.
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Worse than fast food.
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Why do you believe kibble is worse than fast food?
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No of a food classification system, right?
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Unprocessed, minimally processed,
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processed, ultra processed.
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All kibble, if you work it into that classification system,
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is ultra processed.
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So not only is the food quality going in,
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it's super high, highly processed carbohydrates,
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which are going to be pro-inflammatory,
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create massive glycemic spikes.
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Then you bake this stuff, roll it through an extruder
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at super high temperatures,
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you're creating AGEs, ALEs,
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all of the things that we worry about in turnogens.
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Yes.
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And all these myard reaction proteins.
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And then you pour this into a plastic lined bag,
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which, you know,
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it may sit in a warehouse for three to six months if you're lucky,
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maybe close to a year,
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depending on how well it sells.
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And so that heat, if it's not well stored,
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is just further pushing all of the micro-nanoplastics
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from that plastic liner into the food itself.
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I mean, there's been several studies that have shown
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that kibble has some of the highest content
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of micro-plastics in all of the processed foods out there.
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Oh my gosh.
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I mean, if someone's listening to this
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and wondering why they're losing their pet friends,
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their pet family,
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their loved pets,
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so quickly and the suffering.
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And, you know,
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it's certainly here for a short amount of time,
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and they could be with you for a lot longer.
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Yes.
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But, you know, maybe 10, 12 years,
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what used to be 15, 20 years.
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And it's super sad.
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And the pet suffers you suffer.
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And it's almost like being on the medical treadmill.
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So it's not only living healthy,
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it's not even living long,
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but even healthy years.
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And this is the most horrifying thing,
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is that they're getting sick at two, at three, at four,
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when they should be in the prime of their lives.
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Like there's a reclassification on, you know,
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pet comparing dog age, cat age to human age.
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And so really, until they're six or seven,
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they're our age, right?
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They're in their 50s, 60s.
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So where they should be in the prime of their lives
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in terms of vitality health,
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they aren't.
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They're coming out of the box sick.
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And it's just heartbreaking.
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Why is dog and cat kibble worse than fast food?
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It is just chock full of all of the carcinogens,
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advanced glycation in products,
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advanced liposomal in products,
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myriad reaction proteins.
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It is full of inferior quality feed stuff.
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And that's the distinction most people don't make.
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There's pet food, but truly it is feed.
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And it's, it's just not biologically appropriate for them.
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If the way I like to compare it
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is that if you made a steady diet of Doritos,
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you could survive,
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but you're not going to thrive.
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And that's essentially what we're feeding our pets
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is corn product.
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So we're giving them Doritos without the red dust flavoring.
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The red dust?
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Yeah, the super duper lime chipulty
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and the scary frightening red stuff
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that comes off on your hands.
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So that's not in there,
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but so they're making the kibble.
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And they spray it with things like cadaverine,
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which sounds as awful as it,
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it's hard to...
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What's cadaverine?
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So it's basically when stuff,
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when fat start to rot,
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cadaverine is a molecule that gets produced,
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well...
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From rotting fat.
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From rotting fat.
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And so basically they spray the top of the kibble with this
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because it's a palatant for dogs and cats.
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They're using rotting fat.
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So oxidized pro-inflammatory...
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Chocful of ALE's just horrific stuff.
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And this is what is the palatant for most pet food?
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So it's probably a waste product that they decided,
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hey, how can we get rid of this waste product?
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Let's put it on pet kibble.
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And so we don't have to throw it away
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and make some money off of it.
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I mean, most of the...
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There's good quality kibbles out there,
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although I wouldn't recommend it.
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But the vast majority of the pet food industry is upcycling.
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Okay, we can't use this on the human side.
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The 4D animals that should not have even gone to the slaughterhouse,
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they end up in pet food.
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For a while there was a problem with xylazine,
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which is an anesthetic agent contaminating pet food
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because these are animals that should have never been anywhere near a slaughterhouse
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that are now getting turned into a pet food.
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That's just craziness.
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What type of... is it like cows is it?
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Right.
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Pigs, what is it?
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All of that.
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So any of the commercially produced animal proteins in this country,
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there are supposed to be guidelines saying that this animal is sick
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and it should not enter the food system.
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But they push them through.
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And so there's food inspection,
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but the last stats I read is a veterinarian,
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is responsible for 11,000 chickens a minute,
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something like 200 pigs a minute,
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150 cows a minute.
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There's no way that they can actually have the time and the ability to say,
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this is a sick animal.
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No.
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So they're taking sick, diseased, medicated animals?
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Yeah.
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And giving it to our pets.
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The 4Ds.
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Dead disease, dying, or dead, you know.
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It's just bad news.
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And then this has not been a problem for a bit.
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But there have been situations where euthanized dogs and cats
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are being turned into pet food.
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And so now, here they are.
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They've got phenobarbital on board to affect the euthanasia
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and that's getting put into the food.
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You can take pets and turn pets into pet food?
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No.
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It's not supposed to happen, but it has in the past.
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And so it's for some of these smaller companies.
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Periodically, that's an issue that pops up.
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And other countries?
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No.
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In the United States.
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In the United States.
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Yes.
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I mean, this is one of the most...
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Is it dirty industry?
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Yeah.
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It is.
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It truly is.
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And it's governing board is AFCO, American Association of Feed Control Officials.
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And it's an industry group.
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So we're asking industry to police themselves.
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That doesn't work well.
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No, it's not going to work well because it's...
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You know, it's going to cut into their bottom line, cut into their profits.
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And yeah, that's not good.
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No.
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What do you think the main reason pets are getting sicker queer?
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There's a myriad of reasons.
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But honestly, I believe it's because we are removing their gonads.
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We're staying in neutering as early as eight weeks of age.
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And they are never having the opportunity to become endocrine competent.
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So what happens is we're having these animals that never mature physically.
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They never mature mentally, emotionally, et cetera.
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And they have altered biochemistry because luteinizing hormone levels shoot up,
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tissues that shouldn't have receptors develop them,
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and take in this luteinizing hormone and it just creates havoc in the body.
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So when you take that on top of the toxic burden that pets are experiencing,
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which is anywhere from three to 90 times hours,
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and feed them garbage, prone, inflammatory food,
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and give them water that's contaminated with all the things
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and don't get them outside to exercise.
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That's a recipe for disaster.
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Yeah, they're completely removed from nature,
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giving them chemicals and not real food.
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There's no way they're going to thrive.
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It's really tough on them.
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Yeah, it's incredible.
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Most of them, well, all animals, including us because we're animals,
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we're meant to be outside in nature, grounding with sunshine,
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chewing on certain things, you know,
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experiencing your environment.
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Yeah, having a connection to the earth and to the planet,
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and you take that away and you put them inside where there isn't adequate sunshine,
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there is no grounding in nasty electric fields.
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Like all the things that would affect us,
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otherwise it's in a literature,
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it's going to, you know, like you said, three to 90 times affect them,
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electric fields, magnetic fields.
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Yes.
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Like all those things, do I've had friends who've had their pets
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were sleeping on pet beds that were near bad wiring,
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like laying right on top of it in a magnetic field,
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dissipate, you know, over several feet,
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but that nasty field close up with bad wiring,
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and you're not allowed to have bad wiring in house,
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that's why they check for it,
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because they put out these magnetic fields and electric fields,
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and particular magnetic fields that cause cancer.
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Right.
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So I just did a doc, you see, there's on that at home sick home,
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and the way they found that they had bad wiring in their home
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is what both of their pets, they had their pet bed,
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they moved their pet bed and it was over some bad wiring,
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and both the, both the dogs,
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and these were, you know, eating all the healthy diet.
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This is a very wealthy family doing everything right outside,
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playing all the love, raw food diet, like all the stuff,
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and they both died of cancer within months of each other,
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or even weeks, and it was because of the magnetic field.
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That's how quickly they got stage four cancer.
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So it's crazy how sensitive these animals are.
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I mean, maybe it's because dogs are more in tune with frequency as well,
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but they're small.
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People that buy these smart plugs that you can turn on remotely
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with your phone, numerous people have said,
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oh my gosh, my dog just started acting like a nutball
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for no reason, just running around panicked,
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and finally narrowed it down to these smart plugs,
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and they're like, oh, I flip it off and he's cool.
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But this is, we forget this, not only for ourselves,
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but also for our animals.
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We are magnetic beings.
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We are on a magnetic planet.
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And if we alter that magnetic flow,
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we're going to, we're going to screw up the biochemistry
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and systems we don't even understand yet.
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No, we don't understand.
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This is what controls birds flying around the world,
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and butterflies, and like all of this stuff,
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and we're like, oh, it doesn't matter.
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And then a plug like that puts out a nasty magnetic field,
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an electric field, but also a magnetic field,
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that the dog can feel.
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It's not woo medicine.
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We need to wake up to these fields matter.
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They affect our sleep.
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They affect our energy, and it's like a bad movie
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where birds start flying to the wrong direction,
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and start falling out of the sky,
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because of the, we've broken the magnetic,
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you've seen the movies where if something's happening wrong
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with the earth and we're losing our magnetic field,
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birds are falling out of the sky,
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because they're being directed incorrectly,
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because these magnetic fields have been proven to,
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that's a great analogy is what I'm saying.
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Right, so I mean, basically,
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we're messing up their guidance systems.
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Yeah.
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And when we do that, everything else goes off-kilter.
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Does dogs have guidance systems?
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Well, that's an interesting question,
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and that's a whole other bag of wax.
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But I think so.
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I think that left to their own devices,
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they will figure out the best situation for themselves.
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And I think honestly, they're trying to pull us
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into better situations.
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I have a dear friend who, if it's his dog's time,
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like he's got a dedicated time to Gus,
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if he is not respecting that
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and got his phone in airplane mode,
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Gus is like, dude, he's knocking him with his nose
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and reminding him that he is supposed to be present
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for this time.
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How smart are dogs, like relative to a human agent?
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It's different types of intelligence.
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Yeah, so I think that's it.
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In terms of the way we judge intelligence for us
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is like, how many words do you, you know,
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how well read are you all of that?
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But they have a more of an innate intelligence.
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They know they've got it made.
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They're protected.
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They're no longer a prey species.
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They don't have to be predators unless they're feral.
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And that's what they're here to do
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is teach us to be in joy.
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Yeah, they're special.
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Special little gifts, aren't they?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I just got the reason I don't have dogs
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is timing and travel.
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Right.
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It's just a huge responsibility.
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And I already have three kids.
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But they could add a lot of value.
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But I'm still like in that place, you know,
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because I'm going to wind up taking...
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And that's it.
22:45
Yeah.
22:46
So because kids don't have their frontal lobe developed yet.
22:48
And so the ultimate responsibility,
22:50
it's like anything else.
22:52
There is the, you know,
22:54
there's unintended consequences to decisions.
22:56
And just if you make an emotional decision
22:58
and get a family pet,
22:59
because your kid wants them,
23:01
you have to know that it's ultimately going to fall on you
23:04
to make sure that pets well, well taking care of.
23:07
Because they deserve it up.
23:08
Or don't get it to animals.
23:09
So I got two feral cats.
23:11
And it has been life transforming for my middle daughter.
23:14
She is in love with those cats.
23:17
Like we've been in tears.
23:19
I've actually been in tears.
23:20
Remember I was texting you
23:22
because the one was very sick.
23:23
I'm trying to catch it, get it to the vet.
23:25
I can't because it's feral.
23:26
I got bit.
23:27
I got scratched.
23:28
I was doing everything I had.
23:29
My daughter's in my arms.
23:31
And the cat was amazing.
23:33
Yeah.
23:34
It turned around.
23:35
The next day it was fine.
23:36
I'm like, ugh.
23:37
My neighbor's saying it's probably going to die.
23:39
And she was my neighbor's daughter's a vet tack.
23:43
And I'm trying to get like, do you have the gloves?
23:45
So that I just got and get it to the vet.
23:48
But I mean, that's interesting too, right?
23:51
Because in the veterinary world we're like, without us,
23:55
the cat's going to die.
23:56
Now the cat really has the capability to heal itself.
23:59
And we're useful when it's beyond that capability.
24:03
But it's just, I mean cats are such amazing creatures
24:07
because they are like, this is not good for me.
24:11
I'm going to see you.
24:12
Or this is great for me.
24:14
I love this.
24:15
Thank you.
24:16
I would like some more.
24:17
And so that's a valuable lesson.
24:18
Because so many of us spend our lives just grinding away, grinding away,
24:23
and never taking time to enjoy the small bits in life.
24:27
Cats are great teachers on that one.
24:29
They are great.
24:30
They love, they use everyone and everything around us.
24:34
It's like, you're mine.
24:35
It's crazy.
24:36
I mean, they don't let me pet them at certain times.
24:41
But when they want something, they're rubbing all over me.
24:44
They'll let them pet because they want food.
24:45
Yeah.
24:46
So they're survivors, man.
24:48
They are.
24:49
And they're master manipulators.
24:50
Masters.
24:51
They have my middle daughter wrapped.
24:54
And they're relentless.
24:56
When they want food, they will meow, meow, meow.
24:58
And people like someone, like a worker's at my house.
25:01
And the cats are bothering them.
25:03
And they're getting water and foods from them.
25:05
Like, what are you doing?
25:06
They're just like, well, they keep bothering me.
25:08
And I'm like, wow.
25:09
Yeah, it's not.
25:10
These are outside cats.
25:11
They don't need to overfeed them.
25:12
What do you believe the biggest lie pet parents are being told right now?
25:16
What passes as preventive medicine and veterinary medicine?
25:20
And in traditional veterinary medicine, preventive is vaccines, heartworm prevention,
25:28
flea control that they now have a 12-month injection of a pesticide,
25:34
which is carcinogenic.
25:36
Amongst other things, I mean, you know, talk about...
25:39
Right, even mice, a mouse, cancer for cancer study, you've injected the pesticide.
25:43
Yeah.
25:44
So we have these...it's just so incredibly frustrating because the goal with all of these
25:52
from the pharma is client compliance.
25:55
So if we give your dog a 12-month injection, you're compliant for the year.
26:02
But that's not helping the dog.
26:04
So the biggest lie is what is passing for preventive medicine, which is actually creating more disease.
26:13
So the preventive medicine in the pet industry is causing more disease, not preventing it?
26:19
Correct.
26:20
Like over-vaccination, over-utilization of pesticides, over-utilization of pharmaceuticals,
26:28
spaying and neutering at eight weeks of age, feed only this bag of prescription diet.
26:35
All of the traditional recommendations, these are products that are pro-inflammatory at best
26:41
and pro-carcinogenic at worst, and all of the things in between in terms of autoimmune disease,
26:48
IBS, cognitive, dist problems, anxiety, et cetera, et cetera.
26:53
So we've created the disaster that we're currently living through with our pets.
26:59
So just because it's a veterinarian approved doesn't mean it's healthy for your pet.
27:03
That's right.
27:04
This is the problem is that just like medical schools, who's funding veterinary education,
27:10
big pet food, big pharma, it's not for the pets, it's for the bottom line.
27:17
So they're part veterinarians or cogs in the wheel of a money machine surrounded by, again,
27:25
companies, medications, big food, big pharma.
27:30
Big pharma.
27:31
Yeah.
27:32
Big ag.
27:33
And the thing is that veterinarians entered this profession with their hearts full of intent
27:38
for caring for pets.
27:40
And because of the education process, they've ended up some place completely different.
27:46
So if you've got a local vet, be kind to them.
27:51
They are suffering right now.
27:53
And they have to see it.
27:55
So here's the difficulty, right?
27:57
If you're in the middle of it, you see it.
28:00
You see it's not working, but how do you get out of it?
28:04
And many of these young veterinarians are coming out of veterinary school with debt
28:09
somewhere between a quarter of a million and $400,000.
28:13
So what do they have to do?
28:14
They have to jump on, hump in those bills to make their lives work.
28:19
And then you couple with that with the fact that they're seeing 40, 60 patients a day
28:26
and they're being asked to produce at a certain dollar volume.
28:31
They can't see their way out of the weeds.
28:34
And when you're so busy and you're in sympathetic fight or flay,
28:39
you don't have time to get back in your heart, which is the reason you probably became of that.
28:43
Yes.
28:44
You're sensitive kind heart for animals.
28:45
You love animals.
28:47
They put you in your parasympathetic.
28:50
They helped you relax and connect to nature into God and to yourself.
28:54
And then you take on a job that puts you into your sympathetic long hours late nights
29:00
and you become numb potentially to feel the very, maybe not,
29:08
because I mean, that's our just, they are loving.
29:11
They love animals.
29:13
I mean, it's beautiful.
29:14
So, I mean, what you just described is what brought me to that January 1st morning,
29:19
waking up hungover because I'm drinking to medicate myself
29:23
because what I am doing is not what I'm meant to do.
29:27
I am creating harm instead of creating health.
29:30
And so I had the blessing and the courage to find another way.
29:37
But so many of my colleagues, especially the young colleagues,
29:41
don't, they can't even get the headspace to look above where they are
29:46
to see where they are in the big picture.
29:49
But this podcast is going to help because we're going to share it with them.
29:53
We're going to encourage them and to remind them that we're doing this for the pet
29:58
and it's in the pet's best interest.
30:00
And we can create change.
30:01
We're doing it in our healthcare.
30:03
We're doing it with toxicity.
30:04
We can stand up putting synthetic chemicals that this is science.
30:11
We can all agree on this.
30:13
This is our, it's not just humankind, it's pet kind that is suffering
30:18
because of our poor decision making.
30:20
And there is a way out.
30:21
We can get back to farms in regenerative ways.
30:24
We can getting back into balance with nature because nature begets more nature.
30:29
Like if you raise cows properly, it helps the soil.
30:32
It produces more vegetation, which helps the CO2 levels.
30:37
And everything, we're doing everything out of balance
30:39
because we're destroying the systems that create balance.
30:42
We're destroying the microbiome of the soil, right,
30:45
which is destroying the microbiome of humanity,
30:48
which is destroying the microbiome of the air.
30:51
Of the entire planet, yes.
30:53
And that's precisely it.
30:55
We can get into overwhelm about all the things that are absolutely terrifying
31:00
or we can take a deep breath and say, what change can I make today?
31:06
What one thing can I do to help my dog feel better?
31:09
What one thing can I do to help my cat feel better?
31:13
And honestly, it's turn your phone off,
31:16
put that bugger into airplane mode and go outside
31:19
and sit on the ground with them.
31:21
It's good for both of you.
31:22
Exactly.
31:23
I've seen studies where a human that's,
31:27
it's like some sort of photography,
31:29
when a dog's around you, your aura grows,
31:32
it amplifies your aura, it amplifies your energy.
31:35
Right.
31:36
Shocker, as if you will.
31:37
Well, and even if you go back to the research by the heart-math people,
31:41
if you're healthy and everything is working well,
31:44
your energetic field is 15 feet out from your heart.
31:47
If you're lumpy and things are not so good,
31:50
your dog comes in, you're hanging out together,
31:53
you go into coherence,
31:55
and then your energetic field expands exponentially.
31:59
Because your dog, your cat,
32:01
is helping you come back into parasympathetic,
32:04
rest and digest state.
32:06
That's why pets help you live longer.
32:08
Yes.
32:09
Yeah, so this all makes sense.
32:11
Because the rest and relaxation that we need,
32:13
like it's hard to get unless you do breath work
32:15
or different things like that,
32:17
or have some sort of routine,
32:19
the dogs and cats will put that routine in your life.
32:22
Yes.
32:23
So they are a beautiful addition to family now.
32:25
Yes.
32:26
And I don't like it.
32:27
I think about a smaller dog,
32:29
something that can go with me.
32:30
There you go.
32:31
That's it.
32:32
So our dog is,
32:33
Ohio is seven pounds
32:35
and so she can go on the plane with us,
32:38
wherever we're traveling
32:39
and she is a bomb-proof travel dog.
32:41
And she brings so much joy,
32:43
not just to us,
32:44
but to everybody around us, yeah.
32:46
Yeah.
32:47
They're magnets for love.
32:48
They're like, oh, you're puppy.
32:49
Like even me,
32:50
I'm slightly allergic
32:51
and I just can't help myself.
32:52
I'm like, you know,
32:53
when I'm going walks and dusk,
32:55
you know, they sense, they come to me.
32:57
Like dang it.
32:58
You know that I'm a little bit allergic,
33:00
but you know, I just can't help myself.
33:02
Exactly.
33:03
You just got to get down there
33:04
and give them a good wallup.
33:05
Yeah, you do.
33:06
And just go and wash my hands
33:07
and touch my eyes.
33:08
I'll be fine.
33:09
Yep.
33:10
What's the number one toxin in a household
33:11
that's destroying pet health?
33:12
Honestly,
33:13
it's cleaning products
33:15
and all of these artificial sense.
33:19
This stuff,
33:20
they're volatile organic compounds.
33:22
They're released into the air.
33:24
They go up.
33:25
They come back down,
33:26
attached to dust particles
33:28
and your pet is breathing them,
33:30
ingesting them,
33:32
wallowing in them,
33:33
absorbing them through their skin.
33:35
So all these cleaning products,
33:37
which are hormone disruptive,
33:38
which are carcinogenic,
33:40
those particles are,
33:42
it's not just when you wipe a counter
33:45
and spray it,
33:46
the chemical is still there.
33:47
Like it doesn't disappear
33:49
where it fit,
33:50
volatileizes.
33:51
Right.
33:52
And then you have on to little rats
33:54
called dust or microplastics.
33:56
Yes.
33:57
And even worse.
33:58
And then drop to the floor.
34:00
If so, if you're not vacuuming,
34:02
if you don't have air filters,
34:04
that's getting, getting inside their pet.
34:06
So that just bio accumulates in the pet
34:08
and causes a link,
34:09
will be linked to disease.
34:11
Exactly.
34:12
That's super sad.
34:13
Horrifying.
34:14
So the alternative would be
34:15
just use vinegar.
34:16
Yep.
34:17
Vinegar and water.
34:18
It's super awesome.
34:19
Vinegar water baking soda.
34:20
You can clean anything with those three things.
34:22
Your whole house.
34:23
Yeah.
34:24
Literally.
34:25
And you can, you know,
34:26
and there's laundry products.
34:27
There's a lot of, you know,
34:28
safe companies out there,
34:29
truly free being one of them,
34:30
so many now.
34:31
Like it's just endless,
34:32
the different decisions,
34:33
or you can make your own.
34:35
Yes.
34:36
And vinegar does,
34:37
vinegar and baking soda
34:38
is going to do 90% of the work in your home.
34:40
Agreed.
34:41
Yeah, it's crazy.
34:42
If someone wanted to prove their pet health tonight,
34:45
what would you tell them to do?
34:46
Get a water filter.
34:47
Yeah.
34:48
That's step one.
34:50
Our water is so
34:53
unclean,
34:54
and it is transmitting all of the
34:57
microplastics,
34:58
the herbicides,
34:59
the pesticides,
35:01
the PFAS,
35:02
all of these things.
35:04
So if our goal in detoxification
35:06
is to help unload
35:09
what's in the pet's body,
35:11
it works a whole lot better
35:12
if we don't put it in to start with.
35:15
That's beautiful.
35:16
You know, really,
35:17
because that's something
35:18
they're drinking dogs
35:19
and cats,
35:20
drink tons of water,
35:21
and that small amounts of toxins
35:23
build up in their tissues,
35:24
farm suitable drugs,
35:25
or you know,
35:26
obviously pesticides,
35:27
glyphosate,
35:28
even showing up in our drinking water.
35:29
Yes.
35:30
And then human,
35:31
small doses of hormone disrupting,
35:34
you're drinking someone else's
35:36
paxil, someone else's heart-med,
35:38
you're at low doses,
35:39
because the,
35:41
the,
35:43
the super-treatment plants
35:45
just aren't able to
35:47
put that stuff out.
35:48
It's being dumped back into our rivers,
35:49
which is sucking back into the water table,
35:51
and then we put a well in the ground near the river,
35:54
and it pulls it right back into our water supply,
35:57
and right back into us,
35:59
right back into our pets,
36:00
and then we keep cycling,
36:01
all these drugs
36:02
that just don't break down in the environment,
36:04
forever drugs, if you will.
36:05
They are,
36:06
and so this is
36:07
the hydrogeologic cycle, right?
36:09
We're having the water goes up,
36:11
it evaporates,
36:12
it goes into the clouds,
36:13
the clouds rain,
36:14
and starts the whole process over again.
36:16
But, and this, honestly,
36:18
is why children born today
36:20
have DDT in their cord blood.
36:22
This is a pesticide that was banned in 1968.
36:26
It's not gone yet.
36:28
No.
36:29
It's so sad.
36:30
It is.
36:31
What is the sickest pet
36:32
you were able to help with natural methods
36:34
and have that turn around?
36:36
There's been so many.
36:37
But the dog that sticks out in my mind,
36:39
ten-year-old,
36:40
border collimax,
36:43
been diagnosed with kidney disease
36:45
at the age of two,
36:46
and put on the solution
36:48
veterinary medicine
36:49
as to put them on a low-protein diet.
36:51
All right.
36:52
Now you have a two-year-old dog
36:53
that's neutered,
36:55
that's going to start losing muscle mass
36:57
because he has no test-tosterone on board,
36:59
on a low-protein diet.
37:01
So, this dog at the age of ten
37:03
had a completely burnout coat,
37:05
had IBS,
37:07
had hip dysplasia,
37:09
you know, all sorts of joint issues
37:11
that he didn't have the muscle mass
37:13
to support mobility.
37:14
So sad.
37:15
Horrifying.
37:16
And so his mom finally was like,
37:18
I'm done.
37:19
I've had it,
37:20
I've been doing everything
37:21
you all said
37:22
and this dog is getting sicker
37:23
and sicker and sicker.
37:24
So we started this guy
37:26
on a special recipe
37:28
of the original Croc Pet diet
37:30
and a few other bits and pieces,
37:33
did a little acupuncture.
37:35
He comes back in in two weeks,
37:37
I don't even recognize this dog
37:39
because his coat is now black
37:42
and glistening,
37:43
and he feels good,
37:45
and he's able to stand up
37:47
without taking 30 seconds
37:49
to wobble himself up.
37:50
I mean,
37:51
and that's in two weeks,
37:52
just with food.
37:53
And then thousands of dollars
37:55
at the vet,
37:56
because it's expensive.
37:57
Yeah, you know.
37:58
And then it puts people out financially
38:00
because they love their pet so much
38:01
and they're not even getting solutions
38:02
and just running to the vet,
38:04
late night's emergency pet visits
38:08
and if we just fed and cared
38:10
for our dogs naturally
38:12
as they were intended
38:13
in dogs and cats and other pets.
38:15
Right.
38:16
Our wallets would be lighter.
38:18
Well, that's it.
38:19
Heavier.
38:20
Heavier, yeah.
38:21
But here's the problem, right?
38:22
Because they're going to the vet.
38:23
There's a massive problem.
38:25
And the solutions they're getting
38:27
are it's $10,000 or euthanasia.
38:33
I mean, that's insanity.
38:34
That is insanity.
38:35
And that's $10,000.
38:37
And the difficulty is,
38:39
is they're being pressured
38:40
into the euthanasia part,
38:41
not even giving pain meds
38:43
to like, here,
38:44
let me buy you a little time
38:45
or whatever it is
38:46
that could palliate the symptomatology
38:48
long enough for that pet parent
38:50
to make a coherent decision.
38:53
So the difficulty for many pet parents
38:56
is saying,
38:57
let me think about that
38:59
because they don't know what to do next.
39:01
Yeah.
39:02
It's almost like you had a hospital saying,
39:04
if you don't do this medication,
39:05
you're going to die or whatever.
39:06
It's almost like a pressure technique.
39:08
It is.
39:09
And the, you know, it's not quite as bad
39:12
where you have to,
39:14
what is it in the human side
39:15
where you have to sign something
39:16
saying you realize
39:17
that you're going to kill yourself
39:18
if you don't follow the doctor's instructions,
39:21
we're not to that point
39:22
in veterinary medicine.
39:23
But when pet parents say,
39:25
I need to think about this.
39:27
Can you give me something
39:28
to help this guy feel better?
39:30
They're getting pushed back on that.
39:32
But here's the beautiful thing.
39:34
We had one of my coaches
39:36
had a pet parent.
39:38
The dog had intestinal lymphoma,
39:41
has the intestinal lymphoma.
39:43
And the vet said,
39:45
basically you got three months
39:46
with or without chemotherapy.
39:48
They decided to do chemotherapy.
39:50
The first dose just put the dog down
39:53
and just wiped it out.
39:54
Yeah.
39:55
So they called Sunny
39:56
and Sunny's like,
39:57
okay,
39:58
so she pulled together
39:59
a diet plan for this dog.
40:01
And this dog is a kind of course,
40:03
so big guy.
40:04
Supposed to be out 85 pounds.
40:06
She was down to 40.
40:07
Oh my gosh.
40:08
So just incredible.
40:10
Ribs.
40:11
Exactly.
40:12
So she puts together a diet plan,
40:14
chooses some Chinese herbals
40:16
and a couple of other supplements
40:18
and in a month.
40:20
This dog had gained all of its weight back.
40:23
It's playing.
40:24
She's happy.
40:26
They take the dog to the vet
40:28
and the vet's like,
40:29
the same dog and they're like,
40:30
yes.
40:31
And they tell her what they've done.
40:33
And she looks at him and says,
40:34
well,
40:35
she must have been misdiagnosed.
40:37
Just no self-responsibility,
40:39
no belief.
40:40
And the ability of an animal
40:42
to heal with that medication.
40:44
It's kind of crazy.
40:45
It's scary.
40:46
Well, and just by supporting
40:47
the basic mechanisms,
40:48
if you don't start with food,
40:50
if you don't support the microbiome,
40:52
if you don't control inflammation,
40:54
if you don't help the body detoxify,
40:56
yes, that is the trajectory
40:58
that will be followed.
40:59
But if you do those things,
41:01
I'm not saying this dog isn't going to die
41:03
of cancer in the next six months.
41:05
But in the meantime,
41:06
she's having an outstanding
41:08
quality of life.
41:10
She's happy.
41:11
She's playing.
41:12
Her parents are happy
41:13
because they have their dog back.
41:15
Humans are the same way.
41:16
They'll choose not to get on chemo
41:18
because getting chemo
41:19
will destroy the quality of their life.
41:20
So they said,
41:21
rather not do the chemo
41:22
because I'm not really going to live
41:23
any longer anyway.
41:24
Yeah.
41:26
There's maybe a 1% chance
41:28
you live a little longer,
41:29
but you're going to,
41:30
or whatever the percentage is,
41:31
but you're going to suffer.
41:32
And there's studies
41:33
that they can look at
41:34
to make that informed decision.
41:35
Right.
41:36
Probably not happening
41:37
when it comes to pets.
41:38
I don't know if pet parents
41:39
understand that as much.
41:40
No, and it's hard, right?
41:42
Because in that situation,
41:44
many pet parents are absolutely pressured
41:46
into one of the two choices.
41:49
Either euthanasia
41:50
or drop the 10 or 20 grand
41:52
to do whatever it is.
41:54
And that's just,
41:55
chemo jobs are so inexpensive
41:57
to make yet they charge
41:58
so much for that.
41:59
Yeah.
42:00
Well, and that's it.
42:01
I mean,
42:02
chemo has its place
42:03
in some situations.
42:04
And there's some situations.
42:05
And some stats
42:06
that it can extend life.
42:07
Yes.
42:08
It's actually rare.
42:10
Yes.
42:11
But this is the thing.
42:12
It's like getting the breath
42:14
and the space
42:15
to take a moment
42:17
to make that decision.
42:18
That's not what either system
42:20
is good for doing.
42:22
You can't react to motion.
42:23
When a motion is high
42:24
and to let this low.
42:25
Yep.
42:26
So you do need
42:27
to be in a
42:29
rest and relax state
42:30
to make good decision-making.
42:32
And that's always true.
42:33
Yeah.
42:34
You know, what supplements
42:35
should every pet be on?
42:36
Well, I mean,
42:38
first of all,
42:39
put all your money into food first.
42:40
I mean,
42:41
remember that.
42:42
Yeah. I mean,
42:43
supplements are just exactly
42:44
that supplements.
42:45
And they're meant to supplement
42:46
a high-quality diet.
42:48
I think probiotics
42:50
are absolutely necessary
42:52
because all of the,
42:54
well, number one,
42:55
the gut is the number
42:56
two detox organ.
42:58
And if so,
42:59
it's not working,
43:00
then nothing else is going
43:01
to work well.
43:02
And then,
43:03
the other issue is,
43:04
is that, again,
43:05
if pets are somewhere
43:06
between three
43:07
and 90 times
43:08
our toxic burden,
43:09
their guts are getting whacked
43:11
on a daily basis,
43:12
because they're grooming
43:13
the stuff off of themselves.
43:15
So, probiotics are essential,
43:17
some sort of an omega-3 fatty acid,
43:19
supplement is essential.
43:20
Most conventional pet foods
43:22
are upwards of 30 to one
43:25
in terms of an omega-6
43:27
to omega-3 ratio.
43:28
Omega-6s are required,
43:30
but at that level,
43:32
they're very pro-inflammatory.
43:34
Sure.
43:35
So, you have to shift the balance
43:37
back to like a four-to-one ratio.
43:39
Exactly.
43:40
And, or even one-to-one.
43:41
But I mean, four-to-one,
43:42
and I think that's optimal
43:44
for all species.
43:45
And then,
43:46
the last thing is
43:49
I honestly believe
43:50
in multivitamins and minerals,
43:52
because if you are
43:53
in a state of chronic stress,
43:55
you're burning
43:56
through B vitamins like water.
43:58
And the other thing is,
44:00
if you're feeding a commercial diet,
44:02
it's been documented
44:03
that after six weeks,
44:05
the stated levels of nutrients
44:07
are declining rapidly,
44:09
particularly in terms of B vitamins.
44:11
Because they're anti-nutrients.
44:12
Right.
44:13
A lot of those.
44:14
Right.
44:15
Yeah.
44:17
If the oxalates can be anti-nutrients,
44:19
if they're grinding up,
44:20
and putting kale in there,
44:21
which dots really aren't meant to eat kale.
44:23
I would disagree with that.
44:25
I think that this...
44:26
So, the whole raw thing
44:28
as being the ancestral diet,
44:30
I don't think is correct.
44:31
So, if we look at
44:33
when dogs evolved
44:34
from wolves,
44:35
that's roughly 30 to 40,000 years ago,
44:37
depending on who's talking.
44:40
We were already cooking,
44:42
and in fact,
44:43
we were baking bread
44:44
30,000 years ago.
44:46
So, they evolved,
44:48
first of all,
44:49
eating our poop,
44:50
which is why our microbiomes
44:51
are more similar
44:52
than people understand.
44:53
I know that.
44:54
Right.
44:55
And eating our garbage,
44:56
and then as they came in
44:58
to our pack,
44:59
literally,
45:00
they ate what our leftovers were,
45:02
and then finally,
45:04
what we're feeding them.
45:05
And the problem is,
45:06
is that what we've been feeding them
45:08
over the last 50 years,
45:10
is horrifying.
45:11
It is horrifying.
45:12
Yeah.
45:13
So,
45:15
dogs microbiome are
45:17
similar to our microbiome.
45:18
Yes.
45:19
Because they're eating our microbiome.
45:20
We have co-evolved.
45:22
And so, literally,
45:23
they started eating our poop,
45:24
and then we, like,
45:26
in the house,
45:27
in the family,
45:28
if somebody has an
45:30
ab-barrant problem
45:31
with their microbiome,
45:32
that's going to share
45:34
amongst the family to some degree,
45:36
same thing with their dogs,
45:37
right?
45:38
If somebody comes down
45:39
with some evil bacteria,
45:41
that has the potential to
45:43
shed through the entire household.
45:45
That's amazing.
45:46
It's such, I mean,
45:47
and then the,
45:48
but the dog is really good
45:49
for the microbiome,
45:50
the home.
45:51
If you're not spraying pesticides
45:52
and herbicides,
45:53
yeah.
45:54
Outside your home,
45:55
so that's one of the more dangerous.
45:56
If you have a pet,
45:57
don't use roundup,
45:59
or they got rid of glyphosate,
46:01
but all the other toxic,
46:02
Alzheimer's causing chemicals
46:04
that are inside of there,
46:06
and your pet's going to be more sensitive to it,
46:07
right?
46:08
They insecticides,
46:09
because they're going to,
46:10
one,
46:11
it's going to poison them,
46:12
yes, because of their bodies,
46:13
and they're smaller,
46:14
and cause disease more quickly,
46:16
and two,
46:17
they're going to drag it into your home.
46:18
Yes.
46:19
Or, if you have a natural outdoors
46:21
in garden,
46:22
you're not spraying,
46:23
you're not putting,
46:24
this is on your grass,
46:25
like weed and feed is toxic.
46:26
Yes.
46:27
They have carcinogenic,
46:29
neuro-logical,
46:31
disruptive chemicals
46:33
that they're going to bring
46:34
into your dust load.
46:35
They're going to be looking
46:36
their paws
46:37
and getting it in their body.
46:38
If you have young children
46:39
that's going to get in their body,
46:40
they're going to bring that
46:41
toxic dust into your home.
46:43
They're not taking their shoes off.
46:45
No.
46:46
Right?
46:47
And you might not be either,
46:48
and you're dragging that in.
46:49
That's why you should always
46:50
take your shoes off,
46:51
and you go from walking
46:52
around outside.
46:53
Agreed.
46:54
And so, it's hard on,
46:55
hard on the animals,
46:56
hard on you,
46:57
and it's benefiting the home
47:00
microbiome,
47:01
if the opposite is true,
47:02
if you have a natural outdoors
47:04
in garden and grass,
47:05
the dogs are going to bring
47:07
in good,
47:08
soil-based organisms
47:09
that your body needs.
47:10
Right.
47:11
And create a good,
47:12
healthy microbiome
47:14
in your home,
47:15
because you have a home biome,
47:16
right?
47:17
Our feats of a family
47:19
are all going to be the same
47:20
bacteria,
47:21
because that's where we walk.
47:22
That's the only thing
47:23
that's the same.
47:24
Yes.
47:25
That my microbiome is different
47:26
everywhere else in my body,
47:27
but our feet are the same,
47:28
because it's the floor.
47:29
It's in contact
47:30
with the surface.
47:31
And we share that microbiome.
47:32
Right on.
47:33
And all those chemicals.
47:34
Yeah, so I mean,
47:35
that's the thing.
47:36
Live near a golf course.
47:37
Don't walk your dog
47:38
on the golf course.
47:39
Yeah.
47:40
If you do,
47:41
please, please, please,
47:42
wipe them down.
47:43
So anywhere you can see
47:44
weeds growing in the grass,
47:45
that's the place to be
47:46
with your dog.
47:47
Yeah.
47:48
I don't let my kids walk
47:49
on nice grass or whatever.
47:50
I'm like, my daughter,
47:51
I'd pull them off.
47:52
Yeah.
47:53
And they want to walk there.
47:54
Like if we're on a walk outside,
47:55
I'm like,
47:56
they try to walk on a yard
47:57
that's been sprayed
47:58
and I yank her off,
47:59
because not only is that
48:00
going to get her,
48:01
because I have three daughters,
48:02
but that if they were the shoes
48:04
just inside,
48:05
even we take them off,
48:06
it's still pulling those toxins
48:08
in the home.
48:09
I'm very cognizant of that.
48:10
And dogs, same thing.
48:11
Right.
48:12
They're going to let them
48:13
go piece somewhere,
48:14
make sure they don't,
48:15
they pee on the natural grass,
48:16
or the, you know,
48:17
somewhere where it's not
48:18
a perfect,
48:19
because they will kill someone's grass.
48:20
Yeah.
48:21
Yeah.
48:22
So, yeah.
48:23
And that's it.
48:24
I mean, so ideally for dogs,
48:25
every time you go out for a walk,
48:26
have a,
48:27
a damp hand towel sitting
48:29
at the door for when you come back,
48:31
wipe your entire dog down
48:33
and its feet,
48:34
and just take that stuff off
48:36
before you and cross the threshold.
48:38
That's so easy to do.
48:39
Yeah.
48:40
It takes a few minutes.
48:41
That's it.
48:42
You can leave it right there
48:43
and last for a couple of days
48:44
and then change it out.
48:45
Yeah.
48:46
Part of the responsibility of
48:47
for you and for the pet.
48:48
So, um,
48:50
probiotics.
48:51
This is humerian.
48:52
So we'll be,
48:53
uh,
48:54
really powerful number one,
48:55
like one of the number one
48:56
on Amazon.
48:57
Um,
48:58
so they're one of the sponsors
48:59
of this show.
49:00
I wanted to give them a shout out.
49:02
So really,
49:03
really high quality,
49:04
uh, probiotics,
49:05
uh, proven to get into the
49:07
small intestine.
49:08
They, you know,
49:09
cause acid kills probiotics.
49:11
That doesn't happen
49:12
with these probiotics.
49:13
So that's pretty cool.
49:14
And then you also told me
49:15
as far as supplements,
49:16
you,
49:17
I don't know if we can
49:18
talk about this or not,
49:19
but sure.
49:20
You used, uh,
49:21
my patented ZLA.
49:23
Yeah.
49:24
So your,
49:25
the, uh,
49:27
the cytodetox
49:28
is super easy for pets
49:30
because we're able to use
49:32
such a small volume.
49:33
I just found that out today.
49:34
I know.
49:35
I know.
49:36
Yes.
49:37
I didn't even know you were
49:38
doing this.
49:39
Yeah.
49:40
No.
49:41
It's, and it's awesome
49:42
because, uh, especially
49:43
for cats,
49:44
it's,
49:45
glycerin based.
49:46
And so it's got that little
49:47
sweet taste.
49:48
Cats are actually
49:49
sugar addicts
49:50
if they let get run wild
49:51
because of the way we've
49:52
been feeding them.
49:53
But it's an easy,
49:54
easy solution
49:55
to help your pet detox
49:57
and have something
49:58
that you know is clean
49:59
with other toxins
50:00
in with it.
50:01
And it's going
50:02
to pull out all
50:03
of the bad stuff,
50:04
not only herbicides
50:05
pesticides,
50:06
but also heavy metals,
50:08
all of the things
50:09
that are difficult
50:10
to get adhere
50:11
to some other products.
50:13
So it's a super easy
50:15
product to use for pets
50:16
very safe.
50:18
Amazing.
50:19
Yeah.
50:20
Even though we're doing that
50:21
supports your pet's
50:22
natural ability
50:23
to detoxify.
50:24
That's it.
50:25
That's it.
50:26
Yeah.
50:27
Because they do have an ability
50:28
to help in hand.
50:29
And that's, and I'm,
50:30
it blesses me
50:31
to know that, you know,
50:33
it's helping your,
50:34
your pet families
50:36
and pet friends
50:37
and it's really cool.
50:39
I didn't even
50:40
ever think about it.
50:41
Like it's so, you know,
50:42
I get locked
50:43
into natural health
50:44
and helping individuals
50:45
remove, first of all,
50:47
like remove,
50:48
like you said with food,
50:49
you have to start
50:51
with the major things.
50:52
And the major things
50:53
when it comes to human health
50:54
is removing the toxins
50:55
that you're being exposed to.
50:58
Let's lower that load.
50:59
Because your body
51:00
has this amazing ability,
51:01
yes, to detoxify,
51:02
naturally detoxifies you.
51:04
If you remove the sources
51:05
of toxicity,
51:06
same with our pets.
51:07
And the biggest source
51:08
seems to be food.
51:09
And then we have
51:10
supplements that actually work.
51:11
If you know,
51:12
that's helpful.
51:13
Yeah.
51:14
And this, like a lot
51:15
of supplements,
51:16
they're full of poisons.
51:17
Therefore, of natural,
51:18
natural and official flavors,
51:20
wheat germ, you know,
51:22
like things
51:23
that really don't belong
51:24
in pet products.
51:26
You read it
51:27
and you're like,
51:28
oh my gosh, like I wouldn't eat this.
51:29
If you wouldn't eat it,
51:30
don't give it to your pet.
51:31
Yeah.
51:32
And I think that's what's critical.
51:33
Like the supplement industry,
51:35
especially on the pet side,
51:37
is what they're after
51:39
is palatability.
51:41
And all of the things
51:42
that enhance palatability
51:43
to get your dog
51:44
to eat it,
51:45
to cat to eat it
51:46
are usually really
51:47
yucky things.
51:48
So that's why,
51:49
when I use a supplement,
51:51
when I create a supplement,
51:52
I try to have just
51:54
the active ingredients
51:55
that are going to
51:56
be important.
51:57
And then,
51:58
if I need to figure out
51:59
how to make it taste better,
52:00
then use some actual food.
52:02
Here's some food?
52:03
Yeah.
52:04
But that's why,
52:05
I mean,
52:06
credit costs more,
52:07
and it lowers the,
52:08
raises the price point
52:09
and decreases profits.
52:10
Well, that's it.
52:11
And so, you can buy
52:12
all sorts of
52:13
probiotic chews
52:14
on the market,
52:15
and mostly what you're buying
52:16
is flaxseed.
52:17
Do we tell me about that?
52:18
Like, what does that mean?
52:19
So, so if you look
52:20
at most of the chews
52:21
on the market,
52:22
in order to get them
52:24
to form into a chew,
52:25
you have to have
52:26
things that will
52:27
keep it squished together.
52:28
And often,
52:29
it's flaxseed,
52:30
and then they'll
52:31
put some sort of
52:33
sweetener there.
52:34
It's gotten a bit better.
52:35
It used to be
52:36
purpline glycol.
52:37
And then,
52:38
that was a years ago.
52:39
I mean, all of the
52:40
bad stuff.
52:41
Yeah, all the bad stuff
52:42
on the human side
52:43
gets shuffled down
52:44
to the pet industry
52:45
until pet parents say,
52:46
no, I'm not buying this.
52:48
Yeah.
52:49
And so,
52:50
that's the crucial thing.
52:51
It's like,
52:52
look at the supplement
52:53
and it'll list,
52:54
if it's good,
52:55
it'll list the individual
52:56
ingredients
52:57
and give you an idea.
52:58
Some folks go
52:59
with proprietary
53:00
and I get that too,
53:01
because we want to keep
53:02
our products intact
53:04
and high quality.
53:06
But,
53:07
if what you're seeing
53:08
is flaxseed,
53:09
oatmeal,
53:10
fillers,
53:11
wheat germ,
53:12
you know,
53:14
all the stuff,
53:16
that's not going to be
53:17
a good game plan
53:18
for your pet.
53:19
Because,
53:20
one of the things
53:21
that we're fighting
53:22
left, right and center
53:23
is leaky gut
53:24
or intestinal dysbiosis.
53:26
And so,
53:27
if you throw things
53:28
in there,
53:29
that are going to alter
53:30
the microbiome,
53:31
boom, you're all
53:33
of the work you've
53:34
just been doing
53:35
is just shot.
53:36
So,
53:37
the pet choose
53:38
that had
53:39
probiotics
53:40
and they're kind
53:41
of canceling each other.
53:42
It's not a good pet
53:43
probiotic.
53:44
Right.
53:45
And often,
53:46
those are the ones
53:47
that also have
53:48
all of these digestive
53:49
enzymes
53:50
put in there
53:51
and really what they're
53:52
doing is marketing
53:53
to you the pet parent.
53:54
You know a few
53:55
of the words
53:56
that you're looking for,
53:57
and you look at the product
53:58
and say,
53:59
oh, it has X,
54:00
Y, and Z,
54:01
super, I'll buy it.
54:02
But what you're not,
54:03
you have not
54:04
learned yet,
54:05
and I hope you have now,
54:06
is that you need
54:07
to read the ingredients.
54:08
And if you have a
54:09
picky pet,
54:10
then buy something
54:11
that you can deliver
54:12
the smallest possible
54:14
dose
54:15
of the actual
54:16
active ingredient
54:17
and hide that in food.
54:18
Hide that in liver.
54:19
Hide it in salmon
54:20
pate.
54:21
There's a myriad
54:22
of things you can do
54:23
to have a wise investment
54:25
and a hugely
54:27
more efficacious product.
54:29
I'd love that.
54:30
That's why I love
54:31
you, Mary.
54:32
Ten times the
54:33
absorbability,
54:34
the bugs don't die
54:35
and is much in the gut.
54:36
Right.
54:37
So here's the other
54:38
interesting thing.
54:39
So this is designed
54:40
to get through the stomach
54:41
acid.
54:42
And so the deal
54:43
with raw food,
54:44
and I'm going to take
54:45
us back there for a second,
54:46
is that we love it
54:47
because all of these
54:48
enzymes and a healthy
54:50
microbiome of the meat.
54:51
What does stomach acid
54:54
do to bugs?
54:55
Kill it.
54:56
What does stomach acid
54:58
do to protein?
54:59
Breaks it down.
55:01
So all of these things
55:03
that have been promoted
55:04
by the raw food industry
55:06
aren't actually happening.
55:07
Ah, yeah.
55:08
Because especially
55:09
the dog stomachs.
55:10
Yeah.
55:11
So they're just going to
55:12
wipe out the raw food anyway.
55:14
And that's what I mean,
55:15
like raw,
55:16
a dog, a lot of food
55:17
is more nutritious
55:18
if you steam it
55:19
and cook it.
55:20
Right.
55:21
Because you can access
55:22
the nutrients.
55:23
And I don't buy the oxalate
55:24
thing.
55:25
Like I'm not like everyone's
55:26
like function medicine doctors
55:27
always say, well don't eat
55:28
those tomatoes.
55:29
They have oxalates.
55:30
Like, yeah, maybe if you're
55:31
an over, you know,
55:32
if your genetics are off
55:33
or you eat way too many raw
55:35
things.
55:36
But I steam all my vegetables.
55:38
Right on.
55:39
Or you can freeze them.
55:40
Or, you know,
55:41
there's lots of ways
55:42
to break that down
55:43
so that you don't,
55:44
you have much less
55:45
of that.
55:46
So they're getting
55:47
all the antioxidants,
55:48
the flavonoids,
55:49
like all these things
55:50
that you need.
55:51
You can't live with them.
55:52
I mean, they're,
55:53
it's so important
55:54
for the pet.
55:55
It is so important
55:56
for you.
55:57
Right.
55:58
So I mean,
55:59
the polyphenols.
56:00
So they're eating their
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rainbow.
56:02
The polyphenols
56:03
aren't to nourish us.
56:04
They're to nourish your
56:05
microbiome.
56:06
And it's the same thing.
56:07
Dogs and cats need this
56:08
as well.
56:09
They don't need the
56:10
vegetable cats in particular.
56:11
Obligate carnivores.
56:12
They don't need a ton
56:13
of vegetable matter.
56:14
But they need some
56:15
because they need grass.
56:17
And, you know,
56:18
and the,
56:19
if they're hunters
56:20
and they're eating
56:21
the guts of whatever's
56:22
there.
56:23
I mean, I had a cat
56:24
that loved everything.
56:25
He loved cantaloupe.
56:26
He loved tomatoes.
56:27
I had my,
56:28
my feral cat just
56:30
caught an animal
56:31
and I was left
56:32
with the tail.
56:33
Yeah.
56:34
That's it.
56:35
Yeah.
56:36
But that's a thing.
56:37
I mean, so that's cats
56:38
doing their cat thing,
56:39
right?
56:40
Yeah.
56:41
But this is where
56:42
I think raw feeding is
56:43
missing the boat
56:44
and it's interesting
56:45
there.
56:46
That makes sense.
56:47
Yeah.
56:48
That's a nice,
56:49
that's a good argument.
56:50
I'd have to say.
56:51
Yeah.
56:52
Yeah.
56:53
Even in the human raw,
56:54
you know,
56:55
side of things.
56:56
And I do like raw vegetables
56:57
like ton of gardener tomatoes
56:58
and raw egg carrots
56:59
and I try not
57:00
to wash them
57:01
because I forgot to get
57:02
some of those
57:03
soil-based organisms.
57:04
We're kind of getting
57:05
off-check.
57:06
Oh.
57:07
So this is shocking.
57:08
So this was a wonderful
57:09
conversation.
57:10
I've learned so much
57:11
for you.
57:12
So one final statement
57:14
you want to make to all those
57:15
pet parents out there,
57:16
what would it be?
57:17
Trust yourself.
57:18
Yeah.
57:19
You know, you know
57:20
when the advice you're getting
57:21
is not quite right.
57:23
And give yourself
57:24
the grace of taking a breath
57:26
before you make a decision.
57:28
That's great advice.
57:30
So share this
57:31
with all your pet friends
57:33
and other pet parents out there.
57:34
This is an amazing.
57:36
I mean, my eyes have been
57:37
you just been blown away
57:38
with the information
57:39
you share.
57:40
So make sure you share this
57:41
with others.
57:42
How can folks find you
57:43
doctor?
57:44
Super easy.
57:45
Dr. Ruth Roberts.
57:46
Dr. Ruth Roberts.
57:47
What a great name,
57:48
by the way.
57:49
Super.
57:50
Dr. Ruth, is it
57:51
made you famous?
57:52
It's called culture code.
57:53
Dr. Ruth Roberts.com.
57:54
Go check out our
57:55
website and the things
57:56
you have to offer.
57:57
I'm sure there's
57:58
tons of free information
57:59
there for people to learn.
58:00
There is.
58:01
How to take care of their
58:02
pet friends so much more
58:03
and have them live
58:04
a longer, healthier lives.
58:05
Thanks again.
58:06
By pleasure.