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"GRAND THEFT AUTO VI" Game Designers (ft. Conner McCabe) · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 1: This week we have a scoop unlike any other. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: we're sitting down with some of the main creators and
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  Speaker 1: video game developers for the Grand Theft Auto six series.
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  Speaker 2: Grand Theft Auto six is the most anticipated new game
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  Speaker 2: as marked by an award they're most recently nominated for
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, and these executives, creators, designers, and
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  Speaker 2: creatives at Rockstar Games gave us the very very specific
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  Speaker 2: exclusive that nobody else has gotten.
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  Speaker 3: So get in that car, drive real fast and go
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  Speaker 3: to the Strip club because it's GTA six.
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  Speaker 1: Let's listen, let's listen in.
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  Speaker 4: This is fucking massive. I just want to make sure
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  Speaker 4: we're roll like none of us to have like, uh,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't want any leaked audio.
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  Speaker 2: Can we get the phones off too, as we mentioned
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  Speaker 2: on the table.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we we do have those like if you're
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  Speaker 3: really addicted, we have those little pouches if you could
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  Speaker 3: put it in the pouch that's magnet sealed.
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  Speaker 5: Because we just really we've we've had some problem.
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  Speaker 1: Everbody signed their NDA, right, everybody signed these we haven't.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and even though we don't have like the sort
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  Speaker 6: of fidget spinners and hands stuff to occupy ourselves and
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  Speaker 6: we don't have our phones. I think we're gonna be Okay,
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  Speaker 6: my bad for forgetting that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about Okay, I'm gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Like actually, no, I'm just gonna like tap my foot
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  Speaker 4: if everyone's cool with that.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, we're really excited about this game. Everybody is excited
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  Speaker 2: about this game. That's actually not news. Like what I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying is basically air, Like, I know, this is the
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  Speaker 2: most exciting game, and you're excited and we're excited. That's
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  Speaker 2: just kind of how it is. And we're really happy
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  Speaker 2: to be here to talk to everybody exactly.
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  Speaker 4: It's actually i'd say it's been one of the craziest
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  Speaker 4: hardest things to be in development for I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: at least ten plus years on this game and this,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, being a part of this franchise, and it's
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  Speaker 4: just so sensitive. I mean, we have so I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, like maybe we just like cut the
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  Speaker 4: ship and just let everyone know, like we have nicknames
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  Speaker 4: for stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is supposed to come out after hopefully.
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  Speaker 3: Right, so we can talk fully candidly about what's going on,
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  Speaker 3: but we just for the moment. I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: we've got like about a month which I and I
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  Speaker 3: trust everybody in this room fully, but we got to
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  Speaker 3: keep this information under lock and key, where we have
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  Speaker 3: a triple safe system that we're going to use. So my, my,
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  Speaker 3: my security guys should be good on that.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be released in what we like
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  Speaker 2: to call it Rockstar games, the realm of knowing, and
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  Speaker 2: we aren't currently in the realm of knowing now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so this is the realm of the unknown, and everybody
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  Speaker 2: in this room, as we've mentioned, is being trusted with
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  Speaker 2: something very.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, it's so funny that you say that, because I
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  Speaker 6: feel like for so long we haven't been in the
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  Speaker 6: realm of knowing literally, but now that we're here, it's
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  Speaker 6: almost like something I couldn't even have imagined.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you love, you're always talking about you cannot wait
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  Speaker 1: until we get to go.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I've worked on I've worked on games before,
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  Speaker 6: We've all worked on games with four and there's the
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  Speaker 6: time where you just anticipate being in that sort of
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  Speaker 6: ethereal place of the realm of knowing because the majority
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  Speaker 6: of the development cycle is not that. And yet here
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  Speaker 6: we are.
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  Speaker 1: Here, we are. There's going to be a moment when
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  Speaker 1: it's released and we don't have to hide anything anymore.
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  Speaker 1: We just have to hope it goes well.
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  Speaker 2: And that is in many ways kind of like coital
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  Speaker 2: love making, right, Like the moment of release is where
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  Speaker 2: your partner knows you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's crazy that in games and you say
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  Speaker 4: that all the time. You always say.
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  Speaker 2: To me, making a video game is like making love,
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  Speaker 2: and nothing nothing is more true than Grand Theft Auto,
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  Speaker 2: which is all about making love. This game is about
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  Speaker 2: falling in love, out of love and relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's introduce ourselves first before we get any spoilers,
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  Speaker 1: potential spoilers. Way, I mean, it's out, but.
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  Speaker 6: It honestly feels crazy to even have you tease that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're right, you know what, I might
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  Speaker 2: have just revealed that this is the very very first
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  Speaker 2: Grand Theft Auto ever that somebody might fall out of love,
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  Speaker 2: and that the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, here's the thing. Someone's always falling in
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  Speaker 4: love with the city, and that's like what grounds us. Right, So,
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  Speaker 4: no matter what, there's.
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  Speaker 2: That, if not the character the player, let's talk about ourselves.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get into the realm.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Maybe we should introduce ourselves.
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  Speaker 4: What's the funk up? What's the fuck up? I am?
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  Speaker 6: We stopped, we like stopped making fun of you for
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  Speaker 6: that a while.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't I got to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Up.
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  Speaker 4: What's the fucking funk up? What's up? What's fuck up? Fucking?
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  Speaker 4: What's up? The fu up?
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  Speaker 5: Barn over here?
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  Speaker 4: Fucking up the gates, the gates.
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  Speaker 2: We love Mark. Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Mark is a.
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  Speaker 4: Huge wherever you are get into how he falls.
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  Speaker 1: He sent us a video one time and he just
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  Speaker 1: said I like it, and it was just you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you when Mark Maren says he likes something, you
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  Speaker 1: know he really like.
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  Speaker 3: He did the whole podcast set up just to send
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  Speaker 3: us that video. He got on Mike, he tested levels.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna go back. What the fuck up?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: The fuck?
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  Speaker 4: What's up? The fucking what's up? I'm Sarah Diggs. Been
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  Speaker 4: in Get video games for since I think I was
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  Speaker 4: like twelve, built my own PC when I was ten.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. Maybe first game he.
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  Speaker 4: Played, first game I ever played, I'd say it was
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  Speaker 4: on the leap Frog.
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  Speaker 3: So leap Frog I know a lot of great guys
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  Speaker 3: on leap Frog.
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  Speaker 4: They've got that team is trog the thing that's like
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  Speaker 4: a learning no no, no, yeah, the original. They throw
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  Speaker 4: so many pizza parties. Good guys, good game. Ye, great
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  Speaker 4: people over there. I'm just grateful to be a part
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  Speaker 4: of this.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the creepiest pizza parties I've been to.
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  Speaker 4: I do a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Can we say that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, we could say that and just.
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  Speaker 2: No, just no.
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  Speaker 1: GTA secrets are coming up soon. We're just getting time.
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  Speaker 6: But like sometimes we use it as an excuse just
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  Speaker 6: to like tell secrets about other people. We know. That's fine,
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  Speaker 6: as you're.
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  Speaker 4: Saying anyway, what I mainly do for GTA is like
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a dramaturg maybe, but like for the city,
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  Speaker 4: we'll be like that wouldn't really happen at this intersection. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and I talk we I get really specific on I
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  Speaker 4: know GT five is in La Believe, yes, and I yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And it was like very very clear to me where
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  Speaker 4: it was like, no, this intersection has a red light,
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  Speaker 4: like a left turn on a red light thing, Like
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  Speaker 4: I get really specific in like building what is real?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you walk around these cities and you fall in
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  Speaker 1: love with these cities to find out what the city is.
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  Speaker 3: And it's so integral to have a Miami consultant on
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  Speaker 3: the game, like that is something that's really important to us.
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  Speaker 4: And where are you from? Again? Remind me, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: from Miami, Okay, so where are you from?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not from Miami.
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  Speaker 1: And okay, so where are you from. I'm from Tampa Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So still Florida.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah No. And I just I just am like, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like there's like a Reddit forum and I'm just
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  Speaker 4: gonna talk about it, and people are talking about the
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  Speaker 4: fact that I am the Miami consultant and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: a Miami native, and I just want to say, like,
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  Speaker 4: fuck you, Florida, and I use.
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  Speaker 2: Google Maps in your defense. We're not We're not We're
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  Speaker 2: not asking you to make a cultural dish. We're not
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  Speaker 2: asking you to catch the air of a nightclub. We
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  Speaker 2: are asking you to lay out the streets of Miami,
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  Speaker 2: something that you could learn on Google Maps. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying something that's mean. I'm saying, you're logistically designing
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  Speaker 2: a city.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll say what I'm mainly doing. There's so many
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  Speaker 4: of us, right what I'm mainly doing is like traffic stuff,
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  Speaker 4: like how many plant like that?
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  Speaker 3: So you you could essentially build a city if you
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  Speaker 3: needed to.
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  Speaker 4: Like ity city planning. I'm not talking like the specific
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  Speaker 4: palm trees or like.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever the hell when you when people play GTA five,
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  Speaker 6: one of the things they like to do is go
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  Speaker 6: around to La and be like, hey, that's where my
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  Speaker 6: first apartment was or I used to perform there. And
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  Speaker 6: for you and Miami people are gonna want the authenticity
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  Speaker 6: of that's where I would get stuff stuck in traffic
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  Speaker 6: and get the ship kicked out of me.
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  Speaker 4: That's an exit only lane, and like I'm looking out
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  Speaker 4: for that stuff. That's like my twenty four seven.
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  Speaker 6: And we've got like immersion is at the top of
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  Speaker 6: our mind. Yeah, all the times of this game, and
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  Speaker 6: if we lose that important element that you bring, then
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  Speaker 6: it's just for nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll go ahead and introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, so I'm Devin Timber. I'm in charge of
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  Speaker 6: a lot of it's going down. I'm smelling Timber.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't wear deodorant, Yeah, thinking they say that it's
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  Speaker 4: just an in kind of like falls right off me
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  Speaker 4: when I put it on and that's just that's just genetics.
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  Speaker 6: It's not my fault. It's genetics.
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  Speaker 2: You come from a long line of slick men.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it falls off, and I didn't believe you at first,
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  Speaker 3: but I saw it smell just the film right there.
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  Speaker 6: It's not even stuck like a Listine tablet on my armpitch.
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  Speaker 6: It just goes yeah yeah. So so glad we're getting
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  Speaker 6: all my personal stuff at earlier.
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  Speaker 5: I'll put that in the realm of not knowing.
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  Speaker 6: Means a lot. So I'm actually in the animation department here,
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  Speaker 6: and so because we are doing sort of a photo
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  Speaker 6: realistic game, a lot of what I end up doing
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  Speaker 6: is like trying to match realistic movements of the people
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  Speaker 6: in the world, or of palm trees or in a
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  Speaker 6: lot of case if you know people have seen the trailer,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of twerking physics is really my focus huge.
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  Speaker 1: And actually I do want to bring something up because
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  Speaker 1: you've been working in specifically bodily animations for years now,
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  Speaker 1: and people were always saying people in video games walk
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  Speaker 1: weird because the the the graphics aren't there yet, the
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  Speaker 1: information isn't there yet. But it's actually because you have
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  Speaker 1: a very weird walk and you thought everybody walked like that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know. For a while, like I my reference
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  Speaker 6: point was me, so I was taking videos of myself
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  Speaker 6: moving around. And turns out it's kind of strange to
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, it's so it's a
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  Speaker 6: little unusual.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got a very blocky, choppy walk. I would say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my knees.
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  Speaker 2: And we sent you to the doctor. They found nothing wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, nothing. Turns out I'm just a weird sent you,
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  Speaker 6: and we.
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  Speaker 3: Sent you because well, we had a meeting and we
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  Speaker 3: were all just really worried and really concerned. I thought,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe this is a greater indication of
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  Speaker 3: a problem that you don't know about.
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  Speaker 4: It turns out you can walk into an urgent care
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  Speaker 4: and be like I walk weird.
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  Speaker 1: Help Yeah, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Say no, yeah, or they'll say yeah, there's you have
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  Speaker 2: a growth on your leg.
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  Speaker 6: I know, I'm kind of grateful you guys did that
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  Speaker 6: because I'm look, I'm one of the newer people.
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  Speaker 1: To rock Star.
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  Speaker 6: This is my first rock Star game that I've worked on.
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  Speaker 4: And crazy here, you say, because it feels like you've
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  Speaker 4: been here proper.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, it feels like you're just I mean, we have
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  Speaker 1: smelling timber.
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  Speaker 6: You know that means a lot. Well, you know, in
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  Speaker 6: the games I worked on before, they were just you know,
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  Speaker 6: in more of like an ethereal sort of fantasy world,
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  Speaker 6: so it was like maybe the characters would walk like that.
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  Speaker 6: So it wasn't until it came on a more realistic
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  Speaker 6: right yeah, no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those weird walking things.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the way all Captain Olimar, it's actually my walk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's literally you. I just also want to say,
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  Speaker 4: like I feel like you are the one in these
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  Speaker 4: rooms that stands up for wind a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: You go like there's wind in this scene. We should
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  Speaker 4: feel that in the trees and in the hair.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, even if it's disruptive to like, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: director and the cut scene, I just I still feel
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  Speaker 6: like it's important to say, even if the notes not taking,
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  Speaker 6: I mean I.
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  Speaker 2: Credit that, and you can tell me I credit that
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  Speaker 2: to you growing up on a boat. I also credit
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  Speaker 2: your walk to grow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of all it's all making sense at
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  Speaker 6: this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all the boat stuff. Yeah, it makes sense
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  Speaker 1: because you do have a rock and it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: you're not using your knees because you need a balance.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're such a boat.
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  Speaker 1: You're either not using or using your knees too much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I might have to demonstrate that at some point on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll have to show one.
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  Speaker 4: Literally, he'll show you on.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, here we go. Now, this is me putting on
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  Speaker 6: a walk.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is sort of just me.
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  Speaker 6: This is like me putting it on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is perfect because all they can really see
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  Speaker 1: are your legs and then and this is me.
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  Speaker 6: This is this is me.
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  Speaker 1: This is is a timber regular walk. Yeah, that's the
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  Speaker 1: timber walker's.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Oh hey everybody, Hi guys, my name is
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  Speaker 2: Pete Powers and peepeep yep, peep, peep, pee peep. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: that's me and uh. I am in charge of uh
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  Speaker 2: background and additional actor dialogue and voices. I'm in charge
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  Speaker 2: of every time you bump into someone, every time you
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  Speaker 2: rob someone, every time you knock someone down, every time
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  Speaker 2: a cop tries to stop you. I come up with
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  Speaker 2: that dialogue, and I coach the actors. So I my
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  Speaker 2: first shop was on Grand Theft Auto Vice City, and
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  Speaker 2: my first big one was uh the old woman saying
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  Speaker 2: you made chicken ship. That was me.
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  Speaker 1: You came up with it.
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  Speaker 2: I came up with you Little Chicken Watch Chicken Ship,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, I was really proud of that. That one
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  Speaker 2: came kind of like a like a like a gust
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  Speaker 2: of wind.
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  Speaker 4: Can you talk about that because I feel like people
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  Speaker 4: talk about that all the time and no one really
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  Speaker 4: knows like the artistic process behind right.
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  Speaker 2: So I was with my therapist. We were doing a
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  Speaker 2: hypno session and it was deep, deep, deep. I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out why every time I'm on a date,
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  Speaker 2: if my date suggests that we split the bill, I
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  Speaker 2: lose it.
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  Speaker 6: And thank god you were exploring, and that's because your
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  Speaker 6: expectation before your date suggests you split the bill was
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  Speaker 6: uh wait said that again? Your expectation was that they
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  Speaker 6: were going to pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because because I'm mad that that that I
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  Speaker 2: that I have to pay for anything exactly.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're and you hate math exactly, and.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't understand it and it freaks me out. So I said, doc,
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  Speaker 2: put me under let's figure it out. And I realized
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  Speaker 2: there was an experience that I had when I was
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  Speaker 2: at Disneyland in the Country Bear Jamboree show when I
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  Speaker 2: was seven years old, and I bumped into this old
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  Speaker 2: woman who said, watch it, little chicken shit, and she
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  Speaker 2: fined my parents. She said, he knocked a cane out
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  Speaker 2: of my hand and I'm gonna sue you for forty
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  Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. Who And I completely block that out.
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  Speaker 4: And there it is numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's numbers. It's freaked me out.
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  Speaker 1: Numbers are such a trigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And we got in a lot of trouble
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  Speaker 2: for that, and and I had to do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work for that.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you do dialogue exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's why every single little line, these reactions that you're hearing,
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  Speaker 2: these people having these moments, those are real, those are inspired,
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  Speaker 2: and those are important for me and people get to
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  Speaker 2: know them, you know. And they're important because we have
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  Speaker 2: to fill them out. We have to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: there's not one that is set by too many. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm proud to say in GTA six, this is in
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  Speaker 2: the realm of knowing. There are four thousand, seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty eight different stranger interactions you could experience the game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's such a spotlight on what you do now,
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: specifically because people on talk TikTok are talking you know, NPC.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I think my brother is an NPC, using it as
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: sort of a dig to talk about like a normal
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: person that they interact with, and so naturally.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Honestly, when you think about it, what a mean thing
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: to say, you think your brother is an NPC.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually deeply cruel to assume that the people
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: around you who fill out your life don't have an
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: inner life as well as real as.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: And I take it as a compliment because I create
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the NPCs exactly, and so I think, oh, if you say, oh,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: this person's an NPC, to me, it says they have
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: an interesting back Quassian blood. Yeah, and they're deeply related
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: to my psyche and I might love them. So I
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: end up in a room of boring people. I end
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: up just being in heaven. I love NPCs. I love
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: meeting people that only seem to say one thing because
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: it reminds me of home, reminds me of work.
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: You're NPCs too. Some of them have more of a
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: heartbeat than real people I know.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: And there have been times when when I play the game,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: and sometimes it sort of messes with my perception of
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: reality because I go because the NPC will ask me
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: how my day was, and I'll tell them, and then
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I'll go, wait, no, this is not a friend, this
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: is a character.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we've gonna seen you get a little carried
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: away sometimes play testing like going down the road.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's you know, it's it's it's tough to
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: not fall in love with some.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Of your creator.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: And can I just say, I mean, it is really
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: connected to me. This is in the realm of knowing.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I think I can spoil this a little bit. If
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you go to the convenience store right by the beach
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: and you go in, there's an old man that looks
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: suspiciously like my father, And if you bump into him
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: or make a mistake, he'll look at you and you'll say, Pete,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it's not your fault.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: No, so keep an eye on.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: It's an Easter egg and that is fun to make
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: Of people on who've also been playtesting have been like, Okay, Pete,
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: I think you're kind of putting a lot of your
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: sort of therapeutic healing into the game. But that's not
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: necessarily true, right, No, it isn't show me.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: A filmmaker who doesn't do that literally.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and it isn't true, but it has healed
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: me in many ways.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And Jessica, the girl who works the bank, who you
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: know you had a brief relationship with. Some of us
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: thought that that looked like her, but but that's just.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: And you made her so mean in the game.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And she does say, Pete, I shouldn't have strung
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: you along the way that I did.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: No characters named Pete, by the way, no, none of
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the lead characters named Pete. But she does say Pete,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have strung it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: So it was people were trying to say, that's a bug,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: that's a bug, that was Miami slang Pete.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: They're always saying, Pete, you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Do have such a good way, though, I just want
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: to see such a good You have such a good
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: a good way at writing and coaching people as as
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: a girl, I'm a girl, right and you write girls
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: being pushed or you don't write, you perform and coach
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: girls being pushed over and like kind of ran over
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: by cars.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: So well, elean right to every woman, whether or not
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: she's getting pushed it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: And I think it's so and I, as a woman,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: can I say this?
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: And also I'm a girl.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I'm a girl, and we should give space for that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I feel when the women's bodies roll into the street,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I feel respected and I feel seen. I don't feel
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: like you're trying to make these body's sexy, they're they're
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: just us.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's me rolling around, or that's my grandma,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: or that's my future ant.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, and that's why there's certain women that if
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: you knock them, you throw them into the ocean, you're
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: gonna hear them sing. You're gonna hear me.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's really a huge step forward because for
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: so many years and it still kind of happens in
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: the games industry, there's not a lot of consideration for women.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: No, I can't say it respect to you for just
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: make sure this fist is on camera.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: Though, yeah, right here, we got that in there, Okay.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I just like, yeah, it's just good to hear a
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: woman cry and it not sounds sexy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, and sometimes it does and that's the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: beauty of the dynamic of it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: And that's women, right you guys like you guys are
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: lauding me. I'm feeling bashful. We have to move on.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine, fine, do you want to go first? Or
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: should we go first? Should we go? We go let's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: go first. Okay, we'll go first.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: High.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm Donnie and I'm Drinco and we are kind of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the fucked up ones on g t A six. We
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: kind of come up with all the fucked up things.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: We gotta get it from somewhere.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So where Donnie and Drigo, the fucked up
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the twins.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: We're sort of the dark and twisted mind behind the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: sinister underbelly, the heartbeat, if you will, the wrapping at
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: my chamber door, the raven of G six.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people don't know this, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: this is a huge spoiler. Grandam Battle six is heavily
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Edgar Allan Poe inspired.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what we were playing this. We all
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the other games and we kind of went with kind
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of like a more intense kind of.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Cocaine Majors English majors.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And this time we were just like, Miami is Edgar
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Allan Poe. There's not a state in the US or
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the city in the US that's not more Edgar Allan Poe.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Boston and people would but they're wrong.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: They're wrong.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: They're wrong though, because I bended b and I didn't
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: feel that I was just beers at a Red Sox game.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, Irish, okay, Okay, I get it. Miami,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: there's Ravens rave.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: It's everywhere you look. There's Ravens in Miami for those
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: with eyes to see them.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And one of our favorite memes that we have co opted.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Then we've got yeah and we you know, we so
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: we got sent to Miami to sort of scope it out.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: We are you know, we're I guess our formal title
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: would be sort of creative.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Consultants or what is it for you?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Well, all we've ever been called is the fucked up
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: twins that kind of do the ship.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Have you ever seen you guys on a laptop or
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: anything like these? Always just like on that exercise ball
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: in the office.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we both have an exercise ball. We just bounce.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I we you know, some people say in other creative
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: capacities there's punch up guys, and in gt A six
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we call you guys the punch punch guys.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Make things more fight you guys, make things more aggressive,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: more nasty, more section.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: The four branches of GTA. Here we have movement, speech, traffic,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and sin.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know sin. The four horsemen of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the GTA world.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Exactly the game guys, and you know we we this
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: isn't our first fucked up Twins job. We were the
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: sort of sinister minds behind the Kardashian mobile game as well.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You were very dark game, very sinister game. We loved
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that game. It was such a privilegion and it kind
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: of launched our careers. Even though we've worked on all
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the Grand Theft autos, that one really set us up
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in terms of like icon legendary status and you know
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: how we come up with this stuff? People always wonder
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like a mad libs of bad words.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: So we'll say crack addicts, gun.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah we go, So what can you not say on TV?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: What can you not say?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Can you not do?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: What can you not do?
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Exactly?
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: What is?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: What would a psychopath do? What would we always ask this?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: What would Dexter do?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: We go.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: We love famous Miami character.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Miami and very very.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I'd say very pope very more than I was before
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Miami and Ed g Allan Poe.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Dexter did it already, so we're kind of just learning
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: from Dexter. So it is kind of like, how do
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we fill the streets with more innocent people that you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: can hit with their car. How do we make the
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: levels a little more dark? Girl? You have to beat
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: up this child, you know, Like how can.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: We see the drugs from the heroine in the needle
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: into one's bloodstreaming?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: How can we see that? And how can we feel that?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And how as you as a player, how can you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: get somebody addicted to drugs on purpose so they'll pay
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you more money? Like it's just these type of experience
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that we find so funny.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: You know, our game at certain points can have like rounded,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: like soft perimeter. You're giving the edge to that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, this isn't Mario Galaxy too, this isn't Mario Tennis,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and this isn't Mario.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: On Somebody's got to be the one to pitch the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: upsetting thing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: GTA is about making people uncomfortable, and so I.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Wish it was Mario Galaxy. I wish it was Mario Tennis.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: But my guy, you don't have a job there, you
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: You have They're never gonna let us do Mario.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: We pitched, never gonna hire you over there. They're never
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: going to think someday they won't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: They won't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: This is not on ov resume. This isn't gonna work
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: for you. What I will say is, and this is
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: in the realm of knowing. I think I already saw
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: this leaked Rockstar, the higher ups leaked this. You guys
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: are responsible for one of my favorite side quests in
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: G six.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: We're gonna say it now.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: It's when our main characters stumble across Lord Roderick Kensington. Uh.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He lives in an old Victorian house right by the beach. Uh,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and you help him get revenge on Ah, a colleague
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: of his who has a cough that's been driving him crazy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: My favorite levels all time. Guess what scra of beatles everywhere?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And that it's.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: You're gonna see ship that you would never expect from
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: g T A and GT A six because I mean
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: even the crows in those scenes, the crows that are
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: flying around. Those crows have boobs.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and guess who was working on that animation.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about where we pass off.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: We go, we give the heartbeat, and then you guys
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: give the show.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I just want to talk about how you came and developed,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: because watching you try to develop crow with boobs was
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: one of the most amazing things crow that sells cocaine.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Crow with ass was the first draft. Of course, that
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: was just like show me a bird with the butt,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? But then I please.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Speak Well, I mean it was a process really because
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: first it starts by just you know, you know, researching crows,
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: looking at a lot of images of crows, going to
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: zoos with crows, and there are a lot of zoos
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: with crows.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: And then one of the biggest there.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Are statistically, there's crows.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I always say, if there's too many crows at a zoo,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the zoo's done a bad job. But you like it, yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: oh love it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: And while crows don't have breast per se, they do
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: have a rounded chest area like many birds top at
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: for a tough thank you. Uh, that really means a
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: lot that you would say that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Uh, it wasn't a compliment.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, I I just appreciate, I feel you, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: I appreciate that some much.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: You helped him with the sentence, and that's awesome.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it means a lot. Yeah, I'll take any little
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: thing and take it as a compliment. You know, I
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: could have just put you know, a like sexy brazier
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: on that tuft, but I mean, that's not really going
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: to sell it, right, So then I started just looking
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: at image after image after image after image of boobs
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: and sort of that's how we crafted it. So now
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: you see the crows with boobs, and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: We'll say it in the office. What happens is so
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: that idea comes from over here, right, it comes from
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: sin right, and then they bring it over to Tim
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: and then I'll be next to Timber and I'll go,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: do you want to put that crow with boobs on
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: a stop sign? There's one down the street, and then
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: out of my office.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: And then well, then and here's here's what you're done.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Here's where I would and then and thanks for doing that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: What I will say is this didn't get to me,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and that caused an issue because maybe going forward, we
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: can write this down and I'm going to talk. We
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: haven't had our GT six post mortem.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yet, slack problems that we have.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: We're going to do it in Puerto Rico.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm really excited about the post M and p R.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: That's what they're doing.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: You really drunk at the post mortem.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I would prefer you wait because I have some notes
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: for you too. No, we're so depressed when we party.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Let me just that's a good point. What I will
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: say is, uh, this was difficult because uh crow with
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: ascot to me, but when you change it to boobs,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: that didn't get to me. So if you this is
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: a little easter like a spoiler. If you talk to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: any of the crows, they say, honey, get away from
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: my big ass. But it has big boobs.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in order to talk to the crow, you
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: have to do a level where you beat the crap
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: out of an old lady in order to get the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: ability to talk to animals. It's one of the hardest
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: side games. It's a little and I do just want
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to solidify it makes me look kind of like.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: A jackass that we have a crow with big boobs
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: talking about it has a big ass.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I just want to mention that I totally get that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Well, I think we.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: We I and personally I see what the NPCs mean,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you know. I see that when they say ass, they
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: like spiritually mean boob because there are you.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Know, and we talk about this in the office all
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: There are boobmen and assmen, and so we actually found
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a really way to service both.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Boommen, assmen and girls is the three things that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: We have, the three things that we have.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: But again, I love that you can spiritually see that
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: we could have logistically and physically seen.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It no better spiritually.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It's a three minute session, right, we can get a
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: lot of designers throw a voice in, you know, it
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: would have been a free be.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Honest, we don't know if boob if crows call boobs
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: ass like that is how I've been playing.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I love, I love, I love the backflips you're doing.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Instead of trading a universe in which boobs and ass
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: are opposite for crows, we could have changed it so
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: it works for everybody in the real world, and that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the ultimate bebe Yeah for me.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, but it's okay.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Should we disclose the plot.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Of Okay, let's jump into it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Just now listening.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: This is the plot of g T A six.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Here it is jump to this part in the video.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So all the trailers, everything we've released, those have all
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: been decoys, fake lies. We had a whole decoy team
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: for years and years making fake trailers.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: The only thing that's true is Miami and the sort
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: of unsettling feeling you get when you watch it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's upon a fucking time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: I love that voiceover narration that kind of starts it at.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good, and Danny trey Hoe is doing Danny
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: trey Hope. Yeah, a classic La person exactly. I've decided
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to jump in for our Miami specific game, and then
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: we jump into three pit Bull songs back to back.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You have to listen to three Pitbull songs back back,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and then.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: You have to says, rock Star presents a fucked up story.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Well, we start, So it starts with the kernel of
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: our idea, which you know, our workflow is we present you,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: we bring you a sin, and the one that we
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: were sort of circling around in our in our sessions,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: in our in our brainstorming, in our in our examining
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: of the sin, we centered around greed. Right, So your
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: job as the protagonist is to obtain extra money from
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: a gangster who.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You know, and story a drug dealer gone wrong, steals
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the cargo and now he has to become not only
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: a drug dealer but the kingpin operation in the cellar.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And he has a wife and she is annoying.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, wife is a girl, and she is annoying.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: She is always knocking on the door incessantly, knock, knock,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: knock on the Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: Strangely, the one character you all said we should use
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: my walk for.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, immediately I remember it's like, no, go back to
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: your original instinct.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: Turn weird, it just fit.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically that's the first act. You think the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: story is going to be all about how you're a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: drug dealer having to get rid of this product by
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: any means possible so that you lose the tempo of
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: people aren't hunting you down. But you can also raise
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the limit on your ability to become the Kingping of Miami.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But Act two breaks into it. Your character decides to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: buy a club and they fall in love with salsa.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: They absolutely fall in love with all the different dancing styles,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and they decide for three thirty hours of gameplay, you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: can just dance in a club and have a blast
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: teaching people, learning from the best, picking up people, getting drinks.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: It is some of the best gameplay we've ever had.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: And the quest, yeah ahead, it's upside quest. We were
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: talking about it, Well we got to do it. The
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: bar back who's secretly a princess.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, princess, so she is a Guatemalan princess who had
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to run away because, as we all know, Guatemalans hate monarchies,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: so she has.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Believe we don't even need to say it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: It's almost like we didn't even need.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: To say it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I know, the stereotypes hate hate monarchies.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: It's almost like we shouldn't have said it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: We shouldn't have said it and I atologize.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's just so, it's just such as it's just
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: like the sky is blue and Guatemalan's monarchies.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yep. So you have to convince her to go back
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and become the princess she's always been by teaching her
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the art of dance and the art of clubbing.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I will say this was almost directly inspired
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: by the time that our dramaturg and our dev team
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: brought in The Bird Cage, and we just fall in love.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: With the movies. They are so charismatic, they believe us.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: None of us four hundred video game developers, none of
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: us had ever watched The Bird Cage.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Well, Nathan Lane take down the House.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Big overside, how do we make five of these before
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: we watch The.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Birdcare Yeah, truly, I can't believe we even got through them.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's by the grace of God we made g T
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: A five's because yeah, uh GT six is almost the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: underlying heartbeat is the Bird Case.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Yes, we were so obsessed with this cinematic masterpiece that actually,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: and I mean we're in the realm of knowing spoiler
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: but tangential to the club that you are running as
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: this kingpin there's a bird cage club next.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Door called the bird Cage.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: It's called the Bird Cage. Nathan Lane and Rob Williams.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Live above us.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was tough.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Gene Hackman, Calista Flockhart, Hankasaria, all of them are characters
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: in GTA six.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: And you could run them over with your car.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: And you do have a side quest where you can
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: jump in play as Hanks Area and then you record
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: thirty eight seasons of The Simpsons.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, Hank character in bird Cage. You're actually playing as
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Hank is Area.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: You get to talk about with him and you can
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: just spend time in the boot.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm alive.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And the only way you can actually finish that
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: side quest is by doing all the voices that he
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: says he shouldn't have done it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So we have the microphone. We have the microphone, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you have to do all the voices he had to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: stop doing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: You've got to do a poo and then you have
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: to watch Harry Connobolo's special on it and have a
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: change of heart.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: But I think because we're talking about the bird, the
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: bird cage and the club, I think we should say
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: the biggest, the biggest thing that hasn't been leaked, is
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: that there are gay people.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Can you even believe?
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Can you believe it?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: As of right now, there.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Are yeah, currents fucked up ideas is adding gay people
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to it was fucked up.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: I just think it's huge for depending.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: On how what we just said was received, there are
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: currently gay people.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: In g t A six, And we will have the
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: option to edit this later change with.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: The ultimateity that we are currently living in.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: If you're watching this now and it's months after we
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: posted this and there's still us saying there's gay people
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: in GTA six, there are.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Gay people in g six And if that's the case,
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: If that's the case, then I just want you to
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: know that that gave me a whole new layer to
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: my job. Yeah, it was. It was kind of honestly
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: opened my eyes a bit. Again, if this stays in,
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: it opened my eyes a bit to just how different
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: other people are in the world.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: For the first time, it really had such a come
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: to light moment realizing what that that there were gay
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: people even dare I say all around you?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just was asking myself over and over me bad,
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: me bad?
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It was to hear you say it like that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I thank you for taking so many notes on the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: way you made gay people walk because you at first
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: it was wrong, it was very wrong.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I love that. And in the end you just went
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: over a regular walk.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was a crawl. They were using hands
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: on the ground.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Again. You know, we're all learning a lot.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Here, all learning a lot. There's just a lot of
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of groundbreaking things. And GTA is six gay people.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: If we don't cut that or our first celebrity cameo.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: One of our first ever celebrity cameos. But he's playing themselves.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Somebody is playing themselves.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it was just like I think
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: we have been in the world. We're in the world
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: of games, right and we're watching we're watching Fortnite like
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: and Billy.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Fucking Eilish, Billie Eilish.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't ignore that and just make nameless women.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So cameo Billy.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: She is one of the clubs looking very sad in
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the corner. You can go up and talk to her
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and she'll sing you a song.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Guess she's playing the bad guy. We signed her when
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: that song came out, and we said, well, she's gonna
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: be one hit wonder, but it's gonna be fun. And
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: then she's evolved and changed, So we have the early
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: version of Billy that was locked.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Kind of you work on a game for twelve years,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: stuff like that is just going to happen.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Just what else, I mean, the Harlem Shake is still
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: present in a lot of scenes, and yeah, that's something
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: that we sort of chose to keep because you know,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: it is a little twisted.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Sadly, Yeah, sadly, Hillary Clinton won in our world because
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: we were sure that was going to happen. So Hillary
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Clinton was president and is president, and it kind of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: affects the plot.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: There's something so fascinating actually about our world because now
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: we're eight years into Hillary winning and we tracked that
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and so there's a really crazy alternate reality happening in
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: GT six you're gonna enjoy. Yeah, I mean, she's the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: money and the money.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: She's on the that was her first thing. She wanted
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to get on the money.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's on all the money.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: If you just want to see what it would be
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: like if she won, get the game, Get the game.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Just get the damn game.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Get the damn game. Get the damn day, damn game.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: If you want to get out of this this.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Why don't you know? Go ahead? Well, I was just
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: gonna do because so much of the game is missions.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the game is not just the plot, it's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the missions that you have to go on. And we
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: had such a great level developing team. Just shout out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to them.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they're so good.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Tyler Tyler, Monica, Tyler, C Tyler.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: F h.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Estragon Sky, all of them.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, Tyler Tyler.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I want to shout out. You know, in GTA five,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: one of the big things was you could fly an airplane,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you could flay a helicopter around the world, and we
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: went even farther. Yes, you can use a hang glider.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: So that's even farther. And you could use a hang
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: glider in the past games, but this is even more
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: exciting because we put jets on it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and sometimes I mean and also even just the
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: standard one that we have, the first one you get,
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: you know, sometimes d heightening is a heighten Yes, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: don't think a lot of people know that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: No.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you went to the UCB theater and you learned that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you went to us to learn how to walk
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: by you trap research.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Timber does so much research goes to the zoo.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: To find I'm smelling timber.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: I go to the zoo, I go to UCB theater,
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: I google images of women's bodies, all sorts of research.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: The ship you're going to see in the game is like.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Good research, good research, But.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: There's that D heightening and then especially with the D
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: heightening of bird scooters.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what is your favorite levels? Like what is
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: everybody's favorite level, because, like mine is when you have
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: to get in the jet ski, crash into the yacht,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: take the yacht up the mountain, all the way up
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the mountain. On the mountain, punch a child, throw him
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: off the mountain. Ride Oh sorry, rewrite.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: It's a kid.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: It's a kid. Her. It's a kid.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Girl, it's a kid.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: It's a kid her. Okay, throw her off the mountain.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: You right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: You have to ride the yacht down the mountain to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: do a double backflip and land all before the cops
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: shoot you. It's one of my favorite level designs. I
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: think it's just so makes no sense.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: You know, people went really nuts with GTA five online
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: with all of the crazy stuff you could do. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: feel like it was less story focused and more just
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: like stunt focused and this is sort of a nod
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: to that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what that is.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: And uh, mine one of my favorites is so fun.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: One of the Mafia members has a shrink ray and
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: they shrink you down to a little tiny pea size
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: and you have to make somebody a Cubano sandwich. And
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's kind of like a little
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: bit of an homage to Burger Time. Yeah, and so
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: because everyone's been saying we want to have some sort
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: of Burger Time.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: In our everyone's been saying that. And there's also a
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: fun size side quest. When you are p sized, you
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: can go sleep under a mattress and drive a woman
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: slowly insane.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: But that's the poet.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to you do have to play it
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: for months and months.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: We love that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, my I I do.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: My One of my favorite missions though, is when you
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: drive a car into Disney World, and because you know
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: it's it's Miami, we have to involve Orlando.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We have to hit Jim.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: It's a hop skipping a jump and so we were
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: we we know that people are are the Miami.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Heads are going to be demanding Orlando.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so and I love that actually because right outside
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: of uh Disney and Disney World, you can actually uh
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: interact with the movie The Florida Project. Yes, help the
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Child Protective Services take that little girl away from her mother.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, well.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we we we were.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: We were brainstorming one day, playing ping pong, kicking around
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: what's the what's some of the worst things that could happen?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that movie, The Florida Project, Florida Project, it was
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: really hard seeing a difficult situation.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: We had Sean in for an hour and a half.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: And he was so There's an entire section of it
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: that's shot on an iPhone.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: What Baker does is so integrated into.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: It's amazing that in our game we've got too literal
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: movies in it that already exist, and but we could
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: never agree on a third one.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Yea, will be an homage to any other film in.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: The Florida Project.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, was there more you're going
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: to say about the Disney World thing? Or was that
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: to get us to Florida Project.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you know that you can go straight to Florida Project.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: But there is, of course a level where you hang
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: out at Disney.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: We're incredible, very fun. You take photos with Goofy and
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you could.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Steal money from Epcot, and your goal is to also
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Disney bound, so you have to get as close to
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: dressing as the character is possible getting noticed by security.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun with the additional dialogue
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: in the background dialogue on that one.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: We should play a little bit of that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Hey you're looking a little too much like Captain hook that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I think listen game aside, I think a lot of
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: people want to hear about working the working environments. Yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: and at Rockstar, because there was I remember like a TikToker.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I think something went viral about our all hands meetings
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: being on a yacht, and it's true they are.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rock Star is the sea.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: They want us to party and be badasses as much
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: as we can. And as a girl, I love that
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: and it's awesome.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Their corporate headquarters are on international waters, so that we
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: have license to, you know, go crazy.
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: It's the only time in the world where I'm actually
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: walking normal.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Timber and his element kind of throws.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Off the whole social dynamic because because like on normal,
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: you know, grounded land, I am definitely the beta of
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: the group. But when we're on water.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, like, who's this alpha.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because you know, some people say, you know,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: this is my work wife, this is my work husband, Timber,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you have a boat wife, you have somebody who only
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: dates you when you're on a boat.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: She's hot, and she is hot, but when she gets
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: on land, all the hotness kind of disappears. Wanting to
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: do going to realize some sort of.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: You know what, but Siren, you know what, kind of
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: like a story that we might find in our game
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: is sometimes things are hard to explain.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about two chapter three. Sometimes things are hard
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to explain.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: So it's a full courthouse, right, It's just it's a force,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: it's a divorce, a fight over a child.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Sort of a bottle episode.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our main character is taken to court, but you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: don't know the allegations that are against you, and you
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: slowly have to figure out what you're being charged with,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: how you can get out of it. And we go
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: through the whole process.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say it's Kramer versus Kramer exactly.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: We are not reference, but it does feel a lot
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: like Kramer versus because a lot of the part of
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Act one and two is your main character is that
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: your wife has left randomly in the middle of the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: night after having a huge breakoup because you're not around
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: enough and you have to actually start being a father
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: and befriending your own child. Until Act three, she's back.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: She wants full custody.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: It is version in this part of the game. Is
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: it's the first time in GTA we have documents.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, you have to you have to read.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: You have to make sure. You have to go sit
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: with your lawyer, who can't lie. And that's not liar liar,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: it's not liar liar. But your lawyer cannot lie. He
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: can only tell the truth. So you'll have to figure
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: out that court case with him only telling the truth.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I want to give a huge shout out to our
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: consultants in the Documents and Files department, the people at
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Taxact dot Com.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Tyler Tyler, Tyler, the girl, and I.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Want to give a shout out to you specifically, because
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: the hardest thing for.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: So many people to animate is hands.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: But the way that you animated these hands shuffling through
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: papers so fast, it was so real. It's like I
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: was watching it going my hands have done that? Yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: my hands have done Did you have to train at
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: all to do what you do?
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: It was a lot of you know, filming myself, you
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: know reference. Thankfully, my hands, unlike my legs, pretty normal
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: looking when they're shuffling through documents.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Someone went to the ground Links to maybe study some
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: character work in terms of hands. Is that did that
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: help it?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: All?
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Comedies?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well it was well, comedy sports didn't offer that
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: ground Links.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Groundlings definitely didn't.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: Essentially, I like, I sat in on some classes and
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: they weren't giving me what I needed. So just from
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: like the back of the class, I would just shout
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: at them, and the instructor really had a problem with that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: But eventually I got what I wanted because I did
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: have to file some paperwork saying that I could legally
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: never go there again.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: So that that actually helped you, like with.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: That documents, that's amazing.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my favorite acts. Chapter three is
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the lawyer litigation stuff. You it's really interesting to dive
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: into that part of Miami.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. But then you know, when you're not in court,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: of course, it hits night time and you got to
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: go at four thirty or five, and this is post
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: daily Saving time, so everything's really dark. Yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Remember, and that was a huge debate are we going
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: to set this in standard time or daylight savings?
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: And we were going back and forth on it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: A one that affects everyone's process, That affects traffic, that
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: effects that affects how the lighting looks on things, that jiggle, all.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Sorts of exactly, and it effects are we doing the holidays?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So this show or this video game does go from
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: early October to December, so you got Halloween, and you
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: got Thanksgiving, and you have.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Christmas and I and I'm glad that we stuck with
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: that because the butts that were animated for Daylight Saving
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Time just didn't hit for me.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: It didn't, but the holiday once. Really, who thought that
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: during the holidays people cheat and steal more?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: So it gives us that platform to do.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: That and to do something that no one's ever seen.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Holidays at the strip club that was so fun.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Nobody ever asks those women what they're doing on.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Christmas and what they want?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: What they want?
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: What do they want? Having a peek into a sex
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: worker's life during Thanksgiving is that a busy time or not?
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: That's interesting? Can you punch her?
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: And these are the questions where the hard questions.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: We're asking.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: These questions we were asked during all the other GTAs,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: and so anything if you hear anything goes well, that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: sounds like you're trying a little too hard to be inclusive.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: We have to and you can't get mad at us.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: It's in the game. It's literally the game. Everything we're
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: saying is we're just talking about the game and the.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Other jobs before this, but we have to do the assignment,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: which is some people are going to get pushed, and
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: those people sometimes are women.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: Because guess what, women get pushed in real life. And
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: we're not about to sanitize the world, but we're playing here.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no way, especially very lost the.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Nervous. You talked about a woman being pushed and your
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: heart is so big.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Because this is a minefield, of course, and I speaking
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: of minefields, you know, I feel like we should talk
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: about the leaks, you know, how are we getting around these?
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: How are have we dodged some bullets? I know there
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: was an entire scene that we had to rewrite because.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Should we play the should we play the scene? That
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: was leaked originally. I think, so okay, and let's play it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: This is a cutaway scene in chapter four, the part
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: where you're on the beach.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: You're getting again in sand in my pasta.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, baby.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: Suddenly I don't have such a problem with you.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Way, are you kids drinking on the beach again?
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: No, this lady's getting sand in my basta.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Confused, honey, remind you you'll only have me for another one.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Pete. Oh, I know I used you, Pete, I used
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: you for and I'm still assigned in to your Netflix account.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Pete. I owe you the world watch it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: And I don't understand how no one called out how
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: that was like incoherent Yeah, like their problems. They had
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: all sorts of other problems with Well.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: That's one of the hardest things about this game I find, specifically,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: is that you'll be talking to somebody but accidentally run
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: into somebody else, so they'll walk into you, and all
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: those characters are animated, so they'll just start talking. You
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: really can't hear the main plot. I want to characters
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: are talking to each other time.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: If that footage, fuck you, we weren't so fucking hard
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: on that scene.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: We worked so hard we wanted to and we talked
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: about this a lot.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: We wanted to create a sense of confusion so sinister
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: it almost sounds like regular speech, almost sounds like a
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: scene you have a familiar.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It was so real life. That exact scene was so
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: real life.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Running into that literally is something that happened on the beach.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: To me, I was with a gorgeous, gorgeous woman I'd
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: rented for the hour. She got sand in my poss stuff.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: The police came and told me that they couldn't be
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: on there, and this woman out of nowhere started telling
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: me about how she still uses my Netflix.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: And then a crow with that happened to second.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught that crow.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was a seagull. I think it
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: was a crow with boobs.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Let's play the other leaked footage of the crow with ass.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: So this was early beta testings. This is one of
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the side missions where you can go into the deep backwoods,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the swamp lands, and it's actually big because you're kind
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: of confronting your mother in Miami, of Miami Miami, so
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: close to the bike Miami, but so legally We couldn't
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: call it the Everglades, so we had to call it
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the Bayeu of Miami. So we got door Land, we
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: got somebody on the city, and we didn't get anyone
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: to look at greed.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: No one looked at them.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Just do traffic stuff, guys. I don't do trees and bushit.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: So this is one of your like your step mom
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: who you had a good relationship with, but then your
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: dad got divorced from her, he kind of lost contact.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: You're coming to ask her for help in pushing these
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: drugs out. So this is one of these cut scenes.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, honey, there you are. I just went to the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: store and I found this new holiday oreo. I think
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: it's something like something like a pumpkin pie ormonnalligator.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Take a seat.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Let me get you some coffee. Let me get you
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: some oreos. What do you need.
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: Do you have decaf?
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: I think I have some decaf.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: You look for Warren?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Is your Pete?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Is your job taking a lot out of you? Well,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: it's actually my job, my wife.
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: It's all really tough, Pete.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: You can talk to me that, Pete. We all go
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: through tough.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: Times that I always thought Dad never treated you.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Why would you say something you know well, because I
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: should know.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: I should have said it years ago, but he doesn't.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: He didn't treat you, Pete.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: You know I love you. Your father's got faws. Your
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: father's not perfect, just like all of them.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know if what we're doing is appropriate.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: I love you too.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: You're gay. I can't cross this, I can Honey, you
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: better work.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I need this to be turned off.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's off, it's off, it's off.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I think that was coherent and clear, and unfortunately we
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: had to cut that because we switched one of the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: main and.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: The glaring problem with that, of course, was that the
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: boobs were on the crow.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: It was not, and also you just didn't really feel
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the intimacy of the relationship between the stepmom and I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: felt it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I actually think that dialogue was there, and I don't
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: know what you think is wrong with the clip. I
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: think some other people got their hands in the pot,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and I think they started started around.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: It's just how the game authentically works.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Well, I started ask you for one big favor, and
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: that was a favor to have one character go are
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: you gay? In the middle of it, so that.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: You learn that you learned that right at the allegion.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Ye, yes, you.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: You learned that that you learn.
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: That, I feel so I feel like I have a
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: little responsibility for that too.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: My bad.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: You actually Candler in there.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: All right, Well we have to go. Uh, nobody's allowed
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: to touch their phone for the next three hours.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: We cannot be leaked. We're done. Is there any final thoughts, Well,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: let's talk.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, let's just really quickly for us, we.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Do one more clip.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry, okay, so this is this is the worst.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: We had to cut this, we.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Had to cut No, this is this is in it?
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I think, I think I don't know.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, then we'll do the one that's in it.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: So this is the one that's in it. We are
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: in Disney World, We are in clumb thirty three, and
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: you are you are talking to a Disney bounder who
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: won't get off her phone. Yeah, and of course, of
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: course Mickey shows up.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, it's really good. And this one is
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the most crystal clear one. It really makes super cool.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: All right, and let's let's start playing the game.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Pete. If you're unhappy with your job, you gotta quit, man,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: don't push me, Pete. If you're unhappy with the job.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Guys, it's me Jenna bounds a lot job Yellow.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I know Blizzard tiring. Blizzards had some issues, but it's
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: trying to resolve in pretty fast through theyand Sega's still
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: doing things left and right. There there's a big push
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: on their nostalgic scept So there's a job there.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: You watch it. Goofy is my fo my child.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Pete, you're just different since you started working for G
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I just miss you man.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Are you gay?
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: And again that was me?
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I like I G you.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: You always do me one favor. You get me to
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: give a little input, and it's that and I can't
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: feel helpful like I snowballed that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: No, it was awesome. It's such a good playable game,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: super fun, super coherent and really dirty. So, guys, thanks
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: so much for watching and listening, and uh, please play
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: You can get it on Xbox, you can get on PlayStation.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: You can get on your phone.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Get on your phone.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Listen. If you're not a gamer, but you just want
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: to know what it'd be like if she won, get
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: Get the game, Get the game.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: We all deserve it.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Of course, thank you guys.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I'm we didn't give you a compliment.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: I really appreciate what you said.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: We just said, you know, we're thinking then you and
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: just for us.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: The hard drive is in the box in the office
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: under the floorboard.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: And it beats, and it beats every every night, every night,
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: half past three, beat beat beat beat.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm welcome you.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: This has been Artists on Artists on Artists on our
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: answering the question. Now, that's why we call it show business.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Good Night Holly was live from the beat.
• 58:00
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• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Give it up for Samuel on the boots and Connor,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: our editor for every fucking episode.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: This guy has a face. He has a video game podcast.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: It's called Call Me By Your Game. It's fantastic, oh yeah.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: And it has real things actually about video games like
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: this person.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: And I've only done one episode where we made up
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: a fake game.
• 58:20
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• 58:23
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• 58:26
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• 58:30
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• 58:34
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• 58:39
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• 58:42
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