Latest / Networking Unleashed: Building Profitable Connections / Networking Unleashed: S1E35 An Interview with Celia Talbot and Michael A Forman
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- 0:19Hello, and welcome to Networking Unleashed, Building
- 0:23Profitable Connections. Welcome back to the show,
- 0:26folks. I'm your host, Michael Foreman, and you're
- 0:29listening to the podcast where networking is
- 0:32more than just awkward handshakes and bad coffee.
- 0:36It's an art and a talent. But here's the twist.
- 0:39It's an art and talent you can actually learn.
- 0:43Yes, even if you're the person hiding in the
- 0:45corner at every event pretending to check emails.
- 0:50Networking isn't just a nice skill to have, it's
- 0:53a game changer. And when you get good at it,
- 0:55you'll wonder why you didn't start sooner. More
- 0:59connections, more opportunities, more profits.
- 1:03It's like unlocking a cheat code for life. So
- 1:06whether you're just the life of the party or
- 1:08just let me stay at home and text type, we've
- 1:11got something for you. So stick around. Let's
- 1:14turn those awkward small talk moments into big
- 1:17wins. Now, I've got an interesting guest today.
- 1:22Her name is Celia Tablet, and she works for Revved
- 1:27Up Kids, a nonprofit organization, which I firmly
- 1:31believe in wholeheartedly. So I'm going to tell
- 1:35you that she's right now, she's the program's
- 1:37director. But since Rubbed Up Kids is a nonprofit,
- 1:42she's still an assistant trainer, a networker,
- 1:45and a fundraiser. Oh, by the way, she's also
- 1:48the program's coordinator. So let me introduce
- 1:51Celia and let her give you a little bit more
- 1:53of her background. Celia, how are you? Michael,
- 1:58I'm doing great. How are you? I'm doing just
- 2:00fine. Tell us a little bit about your background.
- 2:03I came to Rubbed Up Kids, I was a housewife for...
- 2:0720 years raising my kids and I came to Rev'd
- 2:10Up Kids because Allie and David Neal are the
- 2:13co -founders of Rev'd Up Kids and they've been
- 2:15friends of mine for years and years. When they
- 2:18created Rev'd Up Kids, they came to me with the
- 2:21idea and pitched it to me and wanted my feedback.
- 2:25I gave them a little bit of feedback and then
- 2:27a few years later they called me and said, hey,
- 2:30we need some help on getting some surveys. Can
- 2:33you come and do this? went and started working
- 2:37for them part -time. And then the next thing
- 2:40I knew, they needed administrative help. And
- 2:42then they just kept passing things to me. And
- 2:46about two years ago, they said, we found out
- 2:48that you can talk. We'd like for you to go out
- 2:50and start networking. Okay, great. That's great.
- 2:55And really, that's how we've come to know and
- 2:58love Celia. Okay, first, how did you get involved
- 3:02in? networking within the nonprofit sector? This
- 3:09has been difficult for me because basically I
- 3:12was just thrown into it. I had been in the business
- 3:15world for a few years prior to having kids. I
- 3:18was a sales systems engineer. And so I'd really
- 3:22not done networking, but I'd always been able
- 3:24to talk to people on a regular basis and give
- 3:27presentations and things like that. So when I
- 3:30was thrown into the networking, I can remember
- 3:32my very first networking meeting. I walked in.
- 3:35I was by myself. I knew not a soul. And I was
- 3:41shy and bashful and stood in the corner and pretended
- 3:44to check my emails on my phone. Good. Okay. Okay.
- 3:49Since you brought us into that, as an assistant
- 3:52trainer and programs coordinator, how has networking
- 3:57shaped your career path? I don't know about shaped
- 4:03my career path. It has really defined who I am.
- 4:09The networking, being able to go out there and
- 4:13talk to people, to be able to relate to revved
- 4:15up kids and to sell revved up kids because I
- 4:18passionately believe in revved up kids. So it's
- 4:22made me an integral. part of the organization.
- 4:27It's just as I've had more of the administrative
- 4:30things taken away from me as Allie has pushed
- 4:34me more toward the networking because she's realized
- 4:37that I really enjoy it. Good. And listen, the
- 4:41fact that you enjoy the networking just helps
- 4:44you in all the arenas, because if you are passionate
- 4:49about revved up kids, which you are, and you
- 4:53enjoy the networking, then it's really just,
- 4:56it's fun. After a while, you're just playing.
- 4:59You're not really working, but you're working
- 5:02when you have to get the money. Okay. What unique
- 5:05challenges and opportunities Does networking
- 5:08present in the nonprofit world? It is very difficult
- 5:15in the networking world. A nonprofit relies on
- 5:20corporate sponsors. We rely on donations. We
- 5:24rely on others to be able to recognize and to
- 5:28believe in us as much as we believe in what we're
- 5:31doing. So when you get out there and you're networking,
- 5:37telling the story of what you do and as a nonprofit.
- 5:44And what I say, sometimes I feel really bad about
- 5:48it, but I say that I'm begging for money, but
- 5:50it's the only way that we survive. It's a big
- 5:56challenge. Yeah. I was friendly with the executive
- 5:59director of Meals on Wheels. And he told me almost
- 6:03exactly the same thing verbatim. He said, look,
- 6:06nobody likes to ask for money, but that's the
- 6:09only way that we survive. So if it's the only
- 6:12way, then that's what you have to do. How has
- 6:15networking skills contributed to your success
- 6:18in fundraising? I don't know if it's contributed
- 6:24to my success in fundraising. It's just making
- 6:27friends. Believe it or not, networking is all
- 6:30about First, you have a passion for I have a
- 6:36passion for my job. I have a passion for getting
- 6:39out there and talking about revved up kids. Networking
- 6:43is just a part of it. And then you've got to
- 6:45make friends. You've got to get to know the people
- 6:47that you're talking to. And it's been really
- 6:50tough for me because I thought I should be nothing
- 6:53but revved up kids and not Celia Talbot. So I
- 6:57realized after a while that I had to be Celia
- 6:59Talbot, that I had to be that person that makes
- 7:03me and let everybody know about my passion for
- 7:07revved up kids. You're talking about relationships.
- 7:11You're not in a client -based organization because
- 7:15everything is about emotions. And you're building
- 7:20these relationships because it's not just a one
- 7:23-off, oh, here, I'm going to give you $25. You
- 7:26want to go back to that person over and over
- 7:28again, but you want to make them want to give
- 7:31you the money. So you need to create that relationship.
- 7:35And from what I can see, you're doing it very
- 7:38well. Okay. Okay. So give me your top strategy
- 7:43for creating a meaningful networking connection.
- 7:50Walking, when you meet somebody for the very
- 7:53first time, it is a, hi, how are you? Welcome.
- 7:58If it's their first meeting, it's a welcome.
- 8:01And opening up the conversation by, hey, What
- 8:05do you do? And then when they ask you, then you're
- 8:09clear, concise. And I hope that you enjoy this
- 8:12networking group. There are a lot of good people
- 8:14here. It's just, it's all about relationships.
- 8:19It is. And that's a networking event. You're
- 8:23not looking to receive. I know you're looking
- 8:26for money, but you're looking to give. So you're
- 8:30saying, how can I be a good referral source for
- 8:33you? How can I make you more successful? And
- 8:37by doing that enough, it'll come back. What goes
- 8:40around does come around. And if you build up
- 8:44that type of relationship, then you're going
- 8:47to make it. It's no two ways about it. But it's
- 8:50definitely a relationship business. And you have
- 8:53to look. It's very important to look to give
- 8:57and not receive. Almost like 99 % of the time.
- 9:02Yeah. How do you balance in -person networking
- 9:05and digital? I don't do much digital networking.
- 9:11It's very difficult. I'm an in -person type person.
- 9:15I enjoy, I tell people all the time, I get paid
- 9:19to go out and make friends. It's fantastic. Absolutely.
- 9:25I think digitally it's a little bit more difficult,
- 9:29but I guess as far as networking is concerned,
- 9:31you've got LinkedIn, you've got your social media
- 9:34and things like that. So I do try to have a presence
- 9:37out there, but with Zooms and things like that,
- 9:41it's a lot more difficult as far as if that's
- 9:45what you're asking. How do you keep it all straight?
- 9:49Let's say you have a good relationship with somebody.
- 9:52Let's say at the chamber meeting, you meet three
- 9:55or four people that you really want to stay in
- 9:58contact with. How do you do it? Emails. I get
- 10:03home and I immediately email them and say, hey,
- 10:06I'd like to meet with you one -on -one. And then
- 10:09I have one -on -one times where we have coffee.
- 10:14lunch and we just sit down and talk and we get
- 10:16to know each other a little bit better. Do you
- 10:19use a CRM at all or just strictly you keep track
- 10:23of yourself? It's pretty much me keeping track
- 10:26of myself. We do have... a database that I'm
- 10:30able to use, but I think that's mostly for clients
- 10:32and things like that. So our customers, but I
- 10:36just, I'll keep, I keep it all with me because
- 10:39I'm a personal type person. I tend to remember
- 10:42people fairly well. Okay. Okay. Okay. Give me
- 10:48a common networking mistake that you see people
- 10:54make and how they can avoid it. not talking more
- 11:03not they don't there's not a firm handshake or
- 11:09a smile even or being scared to say anything
- 11:13I guess I haven't seen too many mistakes but
- 11:17it would be Not being able to communicate. That's
- 11:22the biggest thing, because you do have to be
- 11:23able to talk freely. You have to be able to express
- 11:26what you do. And if you're unable to do, that's
- 11:30the very beginning, the very start, you turn
- 11:35people away. I always believe that if you're
- 11:39present, if you're authentic, then it makes everything
- 11:43that much easier. If you are present and authentic.
- 11:49And you are able to talk about what you do. Now,
- 11:52this is easy for an extrovert. If you're an introvert,
- 11:56it takes a little more for you to get used to
- 11:59it. But I just had a podcast earlier with somebody
- 12:04who said, if you're an introvert, it's actually
- 12:07easier than an extrovert. And I said, what do
- 12:10you mean? Because introverts have what's called
- 12:13active listening. They can listen a whole lot
- 12:16better than an extrovert. And when I say be authentic,
- 12:21be real, be present, then that gives them a much
- 12:24more of an opportunity to do that. So it's right
- 12:30that they're right. Okay, so this is pretty much
- 12:33an easy question, but how do you measure success
- 12:36with the networking? Gosh, for us, it's being
- 12:41able to get donations. It's being able to get
- 12:44funding from people. It's having participation
- 12:46with our fundraisers. Okay. Very easy. Yeah,
- 12:53I said that was easy, right? Okay. What approach
- 12:55to nurturing and maintaining the relationships
- 12:58over time? What sort of system do you have in
- 13:03place? Mine is going to all of my meetings regularly.
- 13:10I have a lot of different groups that I have
- 13:13joined that I participate in, and it's maintaining
- 13:17relationships through those meetings. I can say
- 13:20with each one that I walk into, I always have
- 13:23a big smile on my face. I'm greeting people.
- 13:27personally, and so excited to see them. I always
- 13:31feel like I'm walking into the friendliest place.
- 13:33These are all my friends. I know that they're
- 13:35business associates, but they're also my friends.
- 13:39And it's just, and then getting together, like
- 13:43I said, with one -on -ones, going for lunch,
- 13:46going for dinner. Hey, let's go out and grab
- 13:49some coffee. It's all about just maintaining
- 13:51relationships. Considering for me, everybody's
- 13:56a friend. Okay. What advice would you give somebody
- 14:01just starting to build their professional network
- 14:05in the nonprofit sector? To not be afraid. That's
- 14:13the hardest. Like I said, the very first time
- 14:16I walked in, I was absolutely terrified. But
- 14:22not to be afraid to talk about your nonprofit
- 14:24and not to be afraid to say the only way we survive
- 14:28is by donations. So if you really believe in
- 14:32us, even if it's a tiny little bit, or even if
- 14:36you're able to volunteer for a fundraiser or
- 14:38volunteer with our organization, you have to
- 14:42ask. And that's the hardest thing with being
- 14:44with a nonprofit is that you have to ask. Okay.
- 14:49So this kind of works into the same thing. What
- 14:53advice would you give to somebody just starting
- 14:56to build their network in the nonprofit sector?
- 15:01Get out there and ask. Just get out there and
- 15:06start doing it, right? Yes. Yeah. You have to
- 15:09introduce what you're doing and you have to believe
- 15:12in what you're doing. I think if I weren't so
- 15:15passionate about revved up kids. That I would
- 15:20not be able to get out there and talk about it,
- 15:23talk to people about it the way I do. If you
- 15:26don't believe in it, you're not going to get
- 15:28anywhere. True. That's very true. So what does
- 15:32Revved Up Kids, what big is happening in the
- 15:35near future for Revved Up Kids? We have our largest
- 15:40fundraiser of the year coming up. It is called
- 15:44Shamrock and Roll. It is a casino night. It's
- 15:47at the Roswell Museum and it's on March 15th.
- 15:50It is a lot of fun. We've got raffle baskets
- 15:54that we'll be giving away. We've got auction
- 15:57items up for auction. We have a super raffle
- 16:00that opens up this coming Friday. I've heard
- 16:03through the rumor mill that we've got an $800
- 16:08bottle of scotch that's going to be raffled away
- 16:11in the super raffles. Bidding will open up on
- 16:14that one this coming Friday. Like I said, March
- 16:1815th, grab a friend, a significant other, and
- 16:23come to the computer museum and have a casino
- 16:26night and be able to gamble and have fun. Celia,
- 16:31that's great. And I'm so happy that you are the
- 16:34front man. Because I don't believe Dave is the
- 16:37front man. You are the front man for Revved Up
- 16:40Kids. And you do such an excellent job. And I
- 16:44just can't begin to tell you how thankful I am
- 16:47for Revved Up Kids to be at least in my area.
- 16:51And the more you do, the better. It's just absolutely
- 16:54wonderful. If anybody wants to get hold of you,
- 16:58either to talk to you, to donate, to find out
- 17:02what your events are, how would they do? They
- 17:06would go to revvedupkids .org and it's revved,
- 17:09R -E -V -V -E -D, upkids .org. So we have two
- 17:15V's in it, which makes it a little different.
- 17:18Okay, good, good. All right, Celia, I can't begin
- 17:22to thank you enough. You were a great guest.
- 17:25You did a wonderful job and I'll talk to you
- 17:28soon. Sounds good. Thank you, Michael. All right,
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- 18:44-E -V -V -E -D -U -P -K -I -D -S dot org. Well,
- 18:52that's a wrap, folks. A huge thank you to our
- 18:55special guests for sharing such incredible insights
- 18:58today. And of course, a big shout out to you,
- 19:01our amazing listeners, for tuning in and spending
- 19:05your time with us. Remember, networking isn't
- 19:09about being perfect. It's about being present.
- 19:12So take what you've learned today, get out there
- 19:14and make some meaningful connections. If you
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- 19:26Let's keep the conversation going. You can find
- 19:30me on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or my website,
- 19:34michaelaforman .com. Remember, until next time,
- 19:38keep practicing, keep connecting, and keep building
- 19:41those relationships. This is Michael A. Foreman
- 19:44signing off. Take care and happy networking.