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Election Countdown and RFK Jr.'s Influence · The Elsa Kurt Show

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  Speaker 1: It's the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's time for the show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hey guys, it's been two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: We've missed you.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you've missed us.
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  Speaker 2: Just lie and tell us that you missed us, right, clay?
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: That's just a lie, we're okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, please, please, tell us you missed us, tell us you did.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we've got a great show ahead for you.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff to talk about, as you can imagine, two weeks away from you.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: There's so much to talk about and it's going to be pretty, pretty rambling because I just got off a plane, so we're just going to party.
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  Speaker 2: Clay's going to carry the whole thing for us.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: I'm ready.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: So so much has happened in the past two weeks.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: It's been wild.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's never not.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: It's never not crazy, it's never not it's an election.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and what a wild one this is.
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're more of a history buff than I am.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: You would know better than I would.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: Is this the wildest this has to be?
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  Speaker 1: the wildest oh by far yeah.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: The simple fact of the late dropout yeah.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: And the no primary elections for the vice president to become the nominee for the Democratic Party Like nothing.
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  Speaker 1: This is everybody's using the word unprecedented, because there is no other word for this Right.
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  Speaker 2: This is you can't nothing in recorded US history looks anything like this.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Nothing, yeah, it's bonkers, it's bonkers.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: I like to use technical language like bonkers, you know what.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: It's as accurate as anything else right now.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it, though I mean?
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: I really feel like it fits perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, let's go, let's start right with with this guy who I just truly cannot stand Like.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: I can't put this any more nicely and I know that's so unchristian of me, uh, I will work on it, guys but I truly genuinely cannot even stand the sight of this guy.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: And that middle part of that headline we have there is probably one of the maybe three to five biggest reasons why I mean how many more lies can this guy get caught in?
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one is a big one there's been, and the problem is is that it's now two weeks old and it's already being ignored.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: There's been a significant number of members of Congress who have come out with being ignored.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: There's been a significant number of members of Congress who have come out with a letter.
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  Speaker 1: It's been, you know, his battalion commander at the time of his you know the time that he quit, basically retired, and the National Guard has come out and said he was a piece of junk and they were actually happy that he left because they got a real leader in there, which is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the thing about this is that it's you know he purported himself to be and there's a lot of technicality in this and, just to keep it simple, you know he didn't fulfill some requirements, so he didn't get to retain the rank that you know he had been conditionally promoted to, you know, the rank of command sergeant major, promoted to, you know, the rank of command sergeant major.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: And then was, you know, bound by agreement to complete some schooling, complete an assignment, complete this, complete that, and he completed none of it and then he, and then he retired.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Well, because he didn't complete any of the requirements, he lost that conditional promotion.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: So on his DD 214, right.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: So for all of us that are former military, it's like your golden ticket, right, it's the thing that you never, never lose, because it's all of your service.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: But on his DD 214, it says master sergeant, right, which is one rank below command sergeant major.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: You know, did he work at that level?
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did no question about it.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: Is that who he is?
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: No, it is not.
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  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he quit on his guys, which is like the biggest, like it makes me sick.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as a guy who you know not just five, you know deployments but volunteered for you know most of those, right, and you know, or volunteered to go to units knowing that there was deployment on the horizon.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: But you've got a guy who is in the senior enlisted position in this organization.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: They get told they're going to Iraq and he's like I'm out and he bailed on all of his guys and it's despicable, it is right, but it's a testament to his character.
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  Speaker 1: It's also not the first time, right, if you this thing that just came out, so 19 or 2006,.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: This is the chamber of commerce thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard about this.
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  Speaker 1: So he's, you know, born and raised in Nebraska and and in 2006, he's running for office in Minnesota and put on his you know his resume or on his website that he had been given an award by the chamber of commerce in Nebraska from 1993, who quickly investigated that and they said no the hell, we didn't take it off and get rid of everything.
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  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, not only do we not give you an award, but the you know national chamber of commerce is endorsing your opponent, right?
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's, it's who this guy is, and he's like pathological in his lies.
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: He's just throwing them around.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: He's throwing it out Like like Mardi Gras beats what the heck?
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: He's just making things up as he goes, Like IVF, Like oh, we wouldn't have a family if it weren't for IVF.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nope and oh, by the way, the thing of all of this that bothers me and there's a lot of things that bother me about this, yeah, but the thing that bothers me the most is the very small film clip, and we'll put it up here.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: Else I'll find it and put it up here.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: But when they walked out on stage with the family, I know you've seen this, I know.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: I lost my yes.
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: Like you know I am who I am and I know that you know, in the upbringing that I had, both inside and outside of the Army, you know I'm a man of, at times, short temper and I'm prone army.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: You know I I'm a man of, at times, short temper and I'm prone to, you know, violent reaction.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: I wanted to beat his ass, literally to do that to his son on stage and it's not listen.
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: I know I have family members, I, I, you know, I, I have friends who have, you know, kids of of all varying levels of, of disability, right, and I understand that at times, especially in an environment like that, right, there's a lot going on, sure, so to give a, you know, a stiff, you know kind of come, come with me, right, but the jerk, and then the look on his face and that was the look on his face was the telltale sign there is something intimately wrong with that guy and that's angry, let me.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up, clay, because I yes, I saw that as well.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: I made a video.
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  Speaker 2: I made a video about it and, you know, and even like, slowed it down, zoomed it in because I knew that the you know the walls, apologists were going to be like, oh, you're making a big deal out of nothing.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: You know he has special needs and he needed some redirection or something.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: Bull, absolute bull.
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  Speaker 2: You can watch that thing from every single angle and nothing will tell you anything different about that moment.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: And it was everything that you just said.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: It was there.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: You know they.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: You know the psychologists like to talk about like micro, micro aggression expressions and things like that.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Well, he had one of those on his face and, like you said, that was so telling.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: And the you know the the hand jerk it was.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: He yanked him.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: It was an, it was a yank and it was for no reason.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: There was nothing that he was going to trip over, he wasn't trying to go in a different direction, he just simply wasn't walking fast enough for Tim Walls, for his father, and he gives him that you know aggressive yank and that rage Like the pursed lips.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: And then, and then the you know it was like this, it was like and then you know, and that's yeah Right, and the people in the comment section of that video that I posted and I'm sure in many others as well, who have other people who also posted it still still were like oh stop, you're just making something out.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not, and I know that I'm not.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: I know I'm not making something out of nothing.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: That was uncalled for.
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: And I even I very rarely respond to people in the comments.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: You know I try, and when they're, you know I try and give a thank you and things like that, but when they're combative, you know arguing, we all know arguing in the comment section, come on.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: But one guy said listen, I'm an army guy and you know we're just rough, that's the way we are.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: And I had to respond to that when I said excuse me, my husband is a US Marine combat veteran, a long lifetime law enforcement officer, and I have never in my life seen anyone more compassionate, caring, gentle, kind, loving, protective and good to anyone and everyone who is in need of protection the elderly, people with special needs, animals, children, you name it, anyone who is in need.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: That man puts on the velvet glove, and so don't give me that crap.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: That's nonsense.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: A real man knows when to be rough and he knows when to be gentle, and that wasn't the time to be rough.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: Simple as that, right.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a lot of people you talked about the walls, apologists there's a.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: There's a, you know, a kind of a rift.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: It's pretty small right now, I think in the veteran community there's some people who are in the well, he served 24 years.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: It's really not that big of a deal.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I and I wrote about this, you know, in one of my blogs is that there's, you know, there's no such thing as a vet pass, right, veterans, you know, especially if you're running for office, right, Just because you're a veteran, you don't get a free pass, right?
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: And DeSantis, I don't care who, it is right, you know, mccain too, everybody, I don't care if you're a veteran or not, nobody gets a free pass because you're running for office.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: So everything is questioned and it should be period.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Because you're running for office, you don't get a free pass.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: And Walsh, there's a lot of people like, oh well, he served 24 years.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: That one little thing, it's not one little thing, it's.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: And then, oh, by the way, to claim, you know, in his whole, anti 2A.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: And listen, that guy, he can claim he hunts, he can claim whatever, that guy is anti 2A.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, that guy, he is at the forefront of taking your guns away.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: I guarantee it.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: But, as you know, I carry these weapons in war.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: No, he didn't.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: No he didn't, did he carry them?
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Sure, he did, right, he carried something like them.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: He carried the military version of a civilian rifle and he carried it.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: But did he go to war?
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: No, is that a slip of the tongue?
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: It's not, it's not it's multiple times.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: No, that is falsely stating something that he knows is not true.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: He's a liar flat out.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: The guy is full of crap.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: And it's not just 2A, he's against, he is openly and blatantly against free speech.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on To say that your right to free speech isn't guaranteed.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: We have the quote, I'll put it up.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: I have the quote and everything Open socialist.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: So anyone sitting there going, he's just a nice guy, he's just an odd shucks.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: No, he's a raging radical socialist.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: And he let his city burn.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sat back, let it burn.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: He's a terrible human being and you know, and that just goes to the obvious of, and that's who Kamala Harris or her team picked, that's who they picked Interesting.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Everybody who's talking so much great stuff about Tim Walz three weeks ago had no frigging clue who that guy was.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Right, none, nobody outside of the state of Minnesota knew him Nobody.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Anybody who lives outside of Minnesota who says they've been on board with him since he got selected is full of it.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: They're lying.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: They got paid, just like people showing up at the rallies for her.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: That's terrible.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: He is a pick for them that supports the move to socialism.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's all it is really.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: And you know, obviously, since she is so woven into this, you know the figure, the figurehead of everything.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, kamala, so many things.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I mean we could take a whole hour just talking about with her, right Easily, we'd have to like many hours split up into segments.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: I mean it's so crazy.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: I mean where do we even begin with her?
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: There's, there's just so so many with this.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Let's begin with this.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: It's 38 days.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, it's 38 days.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's today's Wednesday, it's 38 days.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Since, you know, she hasn't held an interview and the first interview that she's agreed to is tomorrow, right, right, tomorrow night, thursday night, the night that this is on, that we're all watching this.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she agreed to an interview, but it's not her by herself, it's her own walls Right, it's her own walls right, and they're doing that.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: The DNC, the party itself, is doing that because she can't be left alone.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: She cannot.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: She's so horrible she can't answer questions.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: This goes into the whole, you know, her reworking the rules for the debate and everything else.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: She's incompetent and she's incapable, and so they've got to have walls sitting next to her to clean up every pile of crap that she drops on the stage during the interview, because that's exactly what's going to happen.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the instructions are OK.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: You know the signal is going to be.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: You know, when I don't know what the answer is, I'm going to, you know, cackle.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not allowed to cackle anymore.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: I'm still cackling in the videos, guys, because everybody loves the cackle.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: So, guys, because everybody loves the cackle, so we're still doing the cackle, even though she's been, you know, forbidden to do it by her, by her team.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: But so, you know, I look at the optics of this.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Come on, so it's a pre-recorded.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be live, correct, recorded.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Pre-recorded interview with an ally you know what's her name?
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Dana Bash, who's just like what did you guys say is great, and, of course, tim Wall's by her side.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: So you look at like multiple optics on this One.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: The obvious, which is what you said, that she can't do it by herself, she's scared, she can't do it because she can't speak, she can't utter an intelligent sentence, so she's got to have backup there and to have it in such a controlled environment.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: None of this speaks well for her.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: None of this looks good and you know, quite frankly, all of this.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: You know, yay, look at her.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: You know what is it, what is it?
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Hear her roar, I don't know.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Whatever all those stupid feminist mantras are, you know, I don't even know, and that's how much of a non-feminist I am, I don't even know there.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, all of that talk, and she can't.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: She has to have a man a white man, by the way, old white man next to her to babysit her and, you know, protect her like she's some fragile little, you know, scared little bird.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, wow, nothing says powerful, strong woman than that.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Ugh you're 100 right, and and you know joy, which is the motto.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Now I guess, yeah, joy is not a policy, right?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Joy doesn't pay anybody's bills.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: No, joy doesn't improve the economy.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: It doesn't, you know, it doesn't fix the border.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: So what are they doing now?
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Since she doesn't have a policy other than joy, she's just now blatantly copying President Trump's policies.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Literally, literally like just picture the image of being in school and you're like she's doing it Right.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean not even trying to hide it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Just like no tax on tips.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: No tax on tips.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Build that wall.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to build the wall.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to build the wall, did you?
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: hear the one today about the EV mandate.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, I did.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I saved that one.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I set it aside.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I've got a whole video to make for that one Good Lord.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It literally like everything.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: She's.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: So you know, without Like literally everything.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody in the Democratic Party knows that the Biden administration has been a disaster.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: The last four years is an absolute mess.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: She has to separate herself from that as much as humanly possible.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: The problem is, is the only direction to go is to President Trump?
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So the two places where they are going to differ right, this is my guess is what you're going to see over the next.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: 70 days, I think, before election day is that almost all of her policies are going to move to the center and even closer to the right, except it's going to be the argument over abortion and guns, and that's it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Those will be her only.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: They're going to turn it into a single or two issue election, and that's it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the whole joy thing really gets to me.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I have to be honest, that one really irks the daylights out of me.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And you know, again, the internet, internetting, like at internets, somebody had, you know again, people who are so smart and they know their history and they know these things and God love them because they're so great to throw these things out there.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I have no idea who or where.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I saw I really love to give credit to people that originate things and I just have no idea.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Everything spreads like wildfire.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: But anyhow, um, somebody had posted on one of these platforms an image of uh, oh no, I'm sorry, and let me take that back, let me backpedal a little bit.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: They, they said go Google, um, joy and strength, and see what comes up.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And the first thing I'll save everybody the trouble.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to show you the picture.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: First thing that comes up is, uh, a Nazi slogan, which is strength through joy or joy through strength, whatever it is.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so awkward, little bit awkward, or is it, or is it, you know?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Is it intentional?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Was that deliberate?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I honestly believe it is right now that there's too many.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: It's too easy to call it a coincidence, right?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: It's either a coincidence or it's incompetency, or it's purposeful Right, and I don't believe in coincidences.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: So incompetency is entirely possible, because we've seen four years of incompetency and really probably even like the eight years of the Obama administration was a lot of incompetency as well, right, so it's got to be purposeful Right, and there's no, they're not even hiding it anymore.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: You know, zuckerberg, right, we just heard that that came to fruition.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That you know, zuckerberg, right, we just heard that that came to fruition.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That you know, all of us normal people knew.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You know like Facebook has been censoring.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So again, we've got another attack on free speech, right, so there's your first amendment out the window.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: You know the vice president, governor Walz, are going to go after guns.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: They've said it out loud.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: There's a second amendment gone, right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You know the fourth amendment's been under fire since they passed the patriot act, right, so that's a problem.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: So you know it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: This is, we are.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: We're moving down that slope and right now they're not even being shy about it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: No, like I think the only reason zuckerberg came out was because of the telegram ceo getting arrested, and then you've got arrested, right, so you've got arrests going on.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You know, he landed in France.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: He got arrested because he was not censoring things in the way that the French government wanted him to.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: There's people being arrested in England for, you know, saying things on the internet or in public that the government doesn't agree with, right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: There's the London chief of police that's been threatening to extradite and arrest Americans for things they post on the internet.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we settled that a long time ago.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: We don't work for you and you can stay over in London, or if you really want to come over and get somebody, feel free to try that one, try it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But so I think Zuckerberg got a little scared.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Listen, right, he's.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: He's not made for prison, even White.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: House.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: He's a soft little man.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not little, but he's a soft man.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think he sees all this going on and he's like I'm in trouble.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And he also sees that there's a high probability when President Trump gets reelected and I am at the point now where I'm just going to keep saying it because that's where we need to be but he's going to put Elon Musk in a position of prominence yeah, no question about it, right?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And I think Zuckerberg is afraid that Musk is going to tear apart everything inside of Facebook and find all of the skeletons there's a lot of skeletons to find.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So I think he's trying to stay ahead of that and get himself out of trouble.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he kind of divested himself a little bit from the organization to protect himself.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know anyone, and I don't actually think anybody does.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: But if there were anyone that said, oh look, he's turning a new leaf, oh, he's finally seeing the light, no, this is protection of self-interest, self-preservation, that's all it is.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: That is all it is.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: These are, you know, multimillion and billionaires who need to protect themselves and if they see the tide is straight, I think he's one that sees the tide is turning and I think he is a great indicator that they believe that Trump is going to win.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know that's one of the biggest indicators that that's the case.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I think you know that's one of the biggest indicators that that's the case and they all know it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I think they're getting the idea that is, as Trump says, too big to rig and that's what it needs to be.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it has to be.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: It has to be too big to rig.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he's seen the writing on the wall and he's like, oh, I better, I better make some fixes real quick.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: But you know, going back to the vice president, to Kamala Harris, so what this tells us this interview, or lack of an interview, whatever you want to call it is that the party doesn't trust her Right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Her team doesn't trust her Right.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: For all of us as Americans, though, where this really hits home is that, at some point, the president has to stand on his or her own and make decisions.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is part of the job, right, and I will go back to those monumental decisions.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, they're always surrounded by a cabinet, they always have advisors, but at the end of the day, they have to make the decision.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and you know, monumental moment, you can read about it in Secretary Gates's book.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But the decision to go into Pakistan and kill bin Laden to ninety nine percent of America was a friggin, no brainer Right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Launch them, send them, go, go now.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Don't lose this opportunity.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Kill that SOB.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: President Obama yeah, right, he had to be, he almost had to be, you know, forcefully convinced yeah and thankfully you know secretary gates is who he is, but also I give her credit for this I always have secretary clinton was on the side of you have to do this right, um, but they know that you know kamala harris in the white house as the president is.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: That is, it's a that is it's a failure.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It is just it's a failure on every level.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And I know that everybody talks about shadow government and you know people running that, but the reality is in those situations, that's it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: It is the president Right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Is the president sitting in the situation room with a couple of heads around him and or her and they have to make a decision's incapable.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: She can't do an interview by herself.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: She can't make those decisions right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If she can't do an interview without four days of prep, she she's not going to be able to answer the call at zero three hundred when the phone rings and something really, really bad has happened.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Right, she can't do it yeah, the fact that you know she wanted to change the terms of the debate, um, that she essentially set up I mean her people, you know it's on their turf essentially, with their people, their original rules, everything.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And she's like, yeah, no, you know what, I want note cards and I want to be able to sit like can you imagine?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Like who does a debate sitting down?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Has it ever been done?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: She did it with Pence.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: The debate between her and Pence, if you go back, and it's memorable because it's COVID and there's like that's right, plucks a glass between them and all that Right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And so that's her position of power, because she's so small versus Trump being as big as he is, he's a huge guy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: He's huge yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So the only way that she can be physically on par without looking like a?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: puppet is to be sitting down, but it also gives her an anchor.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It also gives her a place to put a, put her note cards.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, all that, but if you go back it's so cringy to go back and watch that she says probably seven or eight times Mr Vice President, I'm talking.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Mr Vice President, I'm talking, I'm trying to talk here, you know, and so that's it's.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's, you know, it settles her to be in that, you know, sitting down like that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: President Trump has said it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: However you want, I'll, I'll debate anybody, anytime, anywhere, under any conditions.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I don't give a crap.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And that's the president that we need.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just fearless, he's just the man.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's proven that over and over again.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the other thing?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: She went, oh and yeah, coincidentally she wanted the and I laugh when I say coincidentally, she wanted the mics on, she didn't want them turned off, she wanted them unmuted so that she could have those.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I am speaking moments, you know because that, listen, it always looks bad Myself, it always looks bad for a man to interrupt a woman, right?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So that's the other thing that she wants.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: She wants President Trump to interrupt her.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, yeah, she's just.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just grateful that so many more people seem to be waking up to all of this.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the biggest I'm kind of switching just because it's leading into that Clay the biggest.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: A little I got a little emotional, I got a little little patriotic tear in my eye when he came out and you know, and I love that, the Foo Fighters are mad, which I kind of like, the Foo Fighters kind of like Dave Grohl, not so much anymore, but that whole moment was so epic and so historic, right there to to happen.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I mean just wow.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I've known him for so long, for the past 16 months, robert F Kennedy Jr.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man Whoa, and he deserves it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: He deserves it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, who could have ever predicted something like that?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: His speech was phenomenal, phenomenal.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I've been telling people this.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I wrote about this too.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: You know one of my blogs, he's the.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: He is the insider, he's the ultimate insider, not just for the Democratic Party but for the government Literally raised in, you know, like 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, like he, all that whole thing, it's literally in his blood.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: His brother, you know his uncle, his dad, the whole family.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: He's raised in the government and raised within the Democratic Party.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You know they are American royalty.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: We've said this before.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: For him to stand there and give that speech about how largely effed up the democratic party is compared to what he grew up with and and to go point by point down the line like they're not this, they don't do this, they don't stand for this, they've become this.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And he laid it all out right.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows better than that guy that to me, as cool as the trump moment was with the fireworks and the spark, it was cool it was awesome.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: It really was.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: It was very well orchestrated.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: It was like picture perfect yeah speech is the meat that is.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: That was a huge, huge thing for him to come out and say those things.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Now I don't know how much effect that's had.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: It's hard to to tell.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You know it's, um, the, you know the, the aftermath of it all is has been pretty wild to see.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You know, I've been following on X.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I see a lot of people who are, you know, consider themselves, whether they consider themselves moderates or if they consider themselves independents.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Um, they're all finding themselves like at this crossroads in their lives, like I believed all of this and now, now I'm challenged to believe this and I don't really know what to do.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And, and you know from what I've seen, the response from the Republican side has been like welcome aboard, Come on, come on, we're having a great time over here.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It's very, very fun.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: You're going to like it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: You're going to like it a lot.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Come on in fun.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You're going to like it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You're going to like it a lot.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Come on in kids, You're going to love it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And it's just.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so true, that's, it's a hundred percent true.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: It's a much, much warmer environment.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And proof of that, Like, you don't have to look further than RFK's wife, Cheryl Hines.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: She's a very, very popular actress, very talented.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I like her as an actress.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Don't know anything about her personally other than the fact that they are Democrats and, you know, pretty left-leaning, you know, but man oh man, do I feel bad for that poor woman.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, she has been getting just brutalized, trashed in the media by her peers, by her own family, Of course.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: We know RFK's family came out with that horrendous, disgusting, disgraceful letter, you know, condemning her, the brother and family member, obviously.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So all of that was awful.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: But you know, this woman, wow, she in it now.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, what an eye opener.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I would hope it's an eye opener for Right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I mean like she's, she has, and I wrote about this too.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: It's amazing how many of these blog topics that I've written about we've hit.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: But we're going to make sure we put the links in the show notes for those two guys, by the way.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so, like Bradley Whitford, who she acted with on the West Wing, who is a horrific, horrible human being, went after her and basically said she didn't denounce or attack her own husband in public.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: She didn't do enough.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And listen, I wrote it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I'm about as clean in my blogs as I am on this show, except for that one.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: In fact, I posted it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I apologized to my mother for the foul language that was in the blog and my mom came back and said nope, you're good, but this is what.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: He's an example of what she's taking, the abuse that she's taking.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: He, you know, he came out on X, he attacked her.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: You know all of those things.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And because and listen, I, I honestly believe, because RFK said it, he said listen, there's a lot of, there's a lot of traumatic stuff going on in my family right now.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of turmoil going on inside the house because my, you know, I disagree with, you know, and my sisters disagree with, and my wife and my kids disagree with and all this stuff disagree with, and my wife and my kids disagree with and all this stuff.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: She did what we would all expect our partner to do.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, keep it inside the house.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's all she did, it's all she did.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: She didn't come out and denounce her own husband.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: She didn't do this.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: She didn't do that Right In the house, by not saying anything, right Other than you know, I support my husband as my husband, right.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I've met great people along the way because he is an independent.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: There's such a mixed team.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I've met great Democrats.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I've met great Republicans.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You know we all want the country to be better.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That's all she said.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And she has been getting hammered and it's and it's awful, awful.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And it's going to in Hollywood.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It's going to tank her career.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: She's not going to get any roles.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: She's done.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: She's done in Hollywood.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You know, for now there's a handful of folks out there that are, that are sliding truthfully.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And Michael Rappaport, who I despised for four years, has all of a sudden come to his senses and figured out that you know the party well because he's Jewish, right, so he's feeling the Semitism that's going on.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: He's the incompetency in his own party, so he's, he's, you know, kind of sliding over.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Then you've got, like the James Woods and the Clint Eastwood and the you know who is it John Boyd, like all those guys.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: You know they, those guys are who they are and they're right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Rob Schneider, he's been very right.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: You see a lot of those, yeah, you know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So there is a rift in Hollywood.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I think you know we've talked about this before.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I think part of it is politics.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I think part of it is the Israel Hamas thing, right, yeah, yeah, I think that's what probably actually started it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they could all be on the same political side, you know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: But now this, you know, you start showing the Jewish population in Hollywood there always has been, like that's not a secret.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You know that's a pretty hot topic and I know it's even putting some individuals at a you know, at a crux of you know where do I go with this?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Because they, you know, they're Jewish, they support Israel, they hate Hamas and at the same time they're also staunch Democrats.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: They're kind of caught in the middle, you know there's there's a couple of them.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: What's her name?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Used to be a willing Grace is the one who always comes to mind because that's that's her.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, right yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: So you know it's very interesting to watch all of that, but I do feel sorry for Cheryl Hines.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It's an awful thing going through.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But you know RFK did it and you're starting to see more.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You know we're starting to see more.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah it's.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I just like I said before, I think this is really the boost that the party needed.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Like this was the thing, because, as we've talked about many times before, you know the whole thing with RFK Jr running was, and what angered the Democrats so much is that everybody knows that he would be taking votes from Joe Kamala and and nothing, really from nothing of any significance from Trump.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure there's plenty of Republicans, or a handful at least of Republicans, that are like, well, gosh, you know I'm a diehard Republican but I just don't like the guy.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So maybe I'll go with RFK, but RFK's you know his positions on some of the big issues I definitely don't agree with, you know.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: So he wouldn't have ever been a pick for me in any way, shape or form In this capacity.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely bring them in.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: You know, take those, take those, keep taking those votes away, sway people over, and this I don't know.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I mean I guess it has to have been strategy and a lot of work behind all of this to make this happen, or it's just the most amazing miracle.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You know series of miracles to happen that lined up.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: But this is exactly what we needed to happen.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: We needed to bring people over and we've been saying in various ways for so long that you need to win these people over.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: You got to stop pushing them away.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: You have to win them over and you, you know, you can't win them over with bashing them over the head and telling them that they're a piece of garbage and that they're stupid.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: You know, say, you know, get them to question their party.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: You know, and and here we are, and that's what's happening.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Get people in that used to hate Trump, vance.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Um, rfk didn't hate him, but you know, strongly against him.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Um, get these people in and and win them over.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And if you can win them over, that will win more people over.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And you know, here we are.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It's, uh, it's, it's amazing to watch.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I was very, very, very, very anxious, um, about all of this and I'm still anxious and no rest until it's said and done.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's uh, there's still a long way to go.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: It's still 70 things.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Um, I, I think the debate is going to determine everything yeah because, listen, those that are going to vote for her are already it's.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: They've already made that decision and nobody is I shouldn't say nobody, but the vast majority of people are not.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: They're not believing that she is capable.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, she's going to debate Trump and they're going to go wow, she really is that dumb Like.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: That's not a surprise for anybody, right?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: They've decided to vote for her.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: That's not a surprise for anybody, right?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: They've decided to vote for her.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: They're?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: They're going to vote for her?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, and I don't see anybody leaving the Trump camp at this point.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So it is that very small middle that you know can be swayed one way or the other.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I think the move helps, but you're right, it's still up in the air.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a long way to go.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of ways for this election to be cheated.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Right, right, yeah, a long way to go.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of ways for this election to be cheated, right, right, yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean they're trying a million unregistered voters off the rolls in Texas.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what the what?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: A million?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: You know, that's probably just the tip of the iceberg or just simply an example of you know what's nationwide going on, wide going on.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, there it is, there it is for real.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: And also, you know they won't take RFK off the ballots in.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: You know some of the key States, what is it?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Michigan and Wisconsin.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: A couple of battlegrounds, which he has basically come out and said don't vote for me, right, just don't do it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I'm on the ballot, you can't get me off the ballot.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Don't vote for me, vote for Trump, which is good enough.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You'll still have some people that will be adamant about it, but I think those numbers will be really small.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: But it's an attempt to mess up the election in any way that they can.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Very much like bringing more charges against President Trump just yesterday or today, whatever it was yes.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: And what are they doing?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: They're just rephrasing them.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Basically.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of the gist of it, right, like just say it in a different way and we can make it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It's a total lawyer move.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: It's a total.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So they're trying to work around the SCOTUS decision about immunity.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Right, they re, they redid the charges.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: They're trying to do another indictment, you know, based on rewording.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You know the charges against President Trump.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: It's still not going to happen before November.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter, it really has no zero impact.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can he pardon himself?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It's a legal scholar discussion that's been going on.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: It's been going on for a while, right, you know, even before the SCOTUS thing, but that's, that question's been out there and I don't know it's a valid question, right, but that's that question's been out there and I don't know, right.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: He knows that really.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one that I really think that the Supreme Court's going to get involved, which you know truthfully, means that it's going to be a five, four split and he's going to be OK.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, I mean I just hope I, you know, I look at and I try not to do this very often, you know, sometimes I mainly so Facebook.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Specifically, I mainly stay on my business page, my show page.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I stay on that one and I very rarely go over to my personal page, which is, you know, friends and family and acquaintances and all that stuff and acquaintances and all that stuff, people who know me in real life.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I don't go on that one too much because every time I do, I get a little bit annoyed.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I'll do the little scroll and I'm like, oh, I haven't seen this person ages, what's up with?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, well, all righty, and you know, and it's always post like, what are the stupid ones they do with a?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's like Kamala walking and it's, you know, like some girl power type phrase that they use with all this stuff.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, but I'm trying to control my responses, and and by responses I mean I'm trying to control, not responding, you know cause you know how tempting it is to just get on that keyboard, be that keyboard warrior and be like, well, I think that's just lovely, but do you know that this is a massive list of?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And it's like don't do it, you're wasting your time.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I stay off my personal page so I don't lose any more friends and family.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I saw you're in luck, though.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Right, like you, your family is like pretty like-minded.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Like I don't.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to pry.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So, um, you know, my uh, my parents and I are pretty aligned.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Uh, my mom was a big, is a big RFK fan, you know.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Um, you know my uh, I don't talk a lot of politics with my sisters.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Um, they, they do have a different point of view.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: We don't argue, you know, we, we, we just don't like, we just don't talk politics and therefore we don't argue.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Listen, there's people in my family that are staunch in both directions and you know, I get, you know, feedback from some and I get ignored by others, and that's OK too, it doesn't matter to me.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, as a, as a family and as a larger friend group, I think everything's pretty civil, Nice.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: You know, I get a couple every once in a while, you know, but for the most part, yeah, not so much.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to think like friends and families have like calmed down a bit with this stuff.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: No, not so much.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know, because I I have, you know, I I do.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I do have a family member that like unfollowed me on social media and all that stuff and we haven't actually spoken in a couple of years and I'm like I'm fine, I have no problem, we can discuss anything.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I'm good with it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: But if you don't feel capable of that, I'm fine with that too, because I don't invite toxic energy into my circle.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So if you can't do it, that's okay.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And that's what's going on in the RFK, the Kennedy house, like the whole thing.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: He's going through that crap right now, like his sisters disowned him.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Can you imagine, like I mean, I'm trying to think like if, if that particular family member, if he like, went on social media and was like I, you know, as Elsa Kurtz relative, I denounce everything that she, you know.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Like it's one thing to do it privately and be like, yeah, we're, we're going to just stay away from each other because it's you know that bad apparently.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Um, but to do that so publicly, to air your dirty laundry, I can't even fathom.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I can't, I can't, I'm not even like, I'm even against.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: You ever see people on social media and I know you guys all have too.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: They write the cryptic posts like so mad, but I can't tell you what it is, you know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: And then it's like 40 messages of what's going on.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Tell me what's happening, you know, I'll DM you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my, no, no, my private business is my private business period.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: End of story.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I don't ever want to be famous enough where somebody comes out against me in public and anybody cares.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I think you know I tell you what Clay honestly.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And yes, I will start this off by saying what delusions of grandeur do I have even thinking this?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: But I do think about that sometimes, like, oh, you know people in my, in my past or present, even you know, ever going to do that, you know, be like, oh, I know, I know her in real life, she blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, fortunately it hasn't happened yet.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: But I think about, like, what would my response?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: What would my response be to that?
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You know, and I've kind of like looked at other people who've had that kind of stuff happen to them and it seems like the best response is no response.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Right, Like to not even acknowledge, yeah, I've seen that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, that's, that's the way to do it, that's so.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Listen, listen y'all.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Many of my friends, acquaintances, high school friends, ex-boyfriends from you know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, probably 30 years ago, no longer, 30, 20, 20.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go with that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to stick with that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I like that better.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Any y'all want to come out of the woodwork and I'm not encouraging you by any means, but I'm just telling you you're not getting a response.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, all right, that was.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I just bring it back to the like super fun stuff.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Let's talk the Middle East Right.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Isn't that where?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: we're at.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That's always light and joyful Right.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I mean so Israel?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Israel attacked into the West Bank.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Today.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, but the thing that hasn't happened, that I knew wasn't going to happen, and no, no response from Iran.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Right, israel, israel whacked those two guys, one of them right downtown Tehran, and everybody's like, oh, the Iranians, the new president.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Even.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I expected some sort of response.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: They haven't done jack.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Nothing, there's nothing to do, so it continues to roll along and it will continue to roll along.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm convinced of this that this is not going to end until President Trump gets into office.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you said it, because I was thinking I'm like am I right, am I wrong, am I right, am I wrong?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I felt right, I felt right at that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Vice President Harris is not.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: She does not have the capability.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: No, she doesn't, because she's going to go there and she doesn't understand strength.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: She doesn't understand holding people accountable accountable yeah, you know, she's gonna sit in there and she's gonna laugh nervously, you know, and the leaders of hamas and and netanyahu's gonna look at her and tell her she's an idiot because, yeah, care, um, and and she's not gonna be able to do it, but trump walks in the room and it ends it does he will, he will fix it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: So everybody who is, you know, either anti-hamas or anti-israel, or pro-israel or pro-Hamas, whatever it is.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: If you want this thing to end, kamala Harris is not the frigging answer.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: She's not the one, and you know.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: newsflash last thing I remember they don't respect women there, so she is the last one.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Not on the Palestinian side, not on the Arab side at all.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Right, yes, that's what I mean they're not.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: They're not going to sit down with her and listen to her say things like here's the thing.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Have some tea.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I've got tea Right.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: That it really, if you, if you are, if you're one of the people who was emotionally torn by this whole thing, by the Israel, hamas, by all that stuff, if you're really, really invested in this and it's one of those things that keeps you up at night, she is not the answer.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: No, you can't.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: If it's, the number one priority in your life is to see that thing ended, for whatever reason, whatever your personal reason is behalf of Israel, behalf of the kids in Gaza, whatever, I don't care If it's that big of a deal in your life.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: You have to vote for president Trump because if she gets into office, this is not stopping anytime soon.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: You're going to have another two or three years of them killing each other all the time.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Trump has already proven that he can, that he can calm everybody down.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: He's already proven it, yeah, you know.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: So it's not a question of can he?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: We know, we can, you know for sure.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that guy delivers nonstop.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I mean just nonstop.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: And I don't care.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: You know, people can sit there all day long and say, well, I don't like the way he says things, so I don't really give a crap how he says things anymore.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Like he gets the job done.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: He has proven himself just over and over again.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: And, if for nothing else, just sheer fortitude and strength and determination, I mean this guy, how many, how many ways can they try and take this guy down?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: And he, just, he doesn't even flinch.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you not respect?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I told you this.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: That was always my beef with him.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I love him for policy, you know all of that stuff.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I think he acts less than presidential.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: That's just, it's me.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, I don't disagree.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Listen the office itself to even attempt to run for that office demands you be a narcissist.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just a different kind of narcissist, right.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: So go back in time, you know it's him.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Biden was an absolute narcissist.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: That's the only reason he even ran Obama.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Narcissist right.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: President Bush, he's a bit of a narcissist, right.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely Clinton.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Narcissist right.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: No question, right, bush Sr.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: absolutely clinton 100 narcissist, no question, right bush senior, even reagan was a little bit narcissist.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you like you said, yeah, you have to be, you have to love the spotlight yeah, the one guy who didn't was carter and he was a horrible president.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know they're all narcissists.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: It's just a different flavor.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: You know it's a different flavor, you know popsicle.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he's just a guy that people don't like because of his brand of narcissism.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Right, but he's a businessman and he gets crap done Like he cuts the meals.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: People listen, everybody abides and everybody moves on, and that's why he can stop this crap.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: You know that's going on in Israel and Gaza, yeah.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, I do.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I do like the.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: You know, somebody in that team, somebody in the inner circle, said we need to show a little bit of the softer side.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: How can we do that, you know, without you feeling cause he's not, he's not that guy, he's, he's not going to give that to you.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: So it's like, well, how can we let people know that it exists?
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Well, his granddaughter, kai, you know, has become a phenomenal, really great little social media presence and and she's so low key, she's adorable.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I see her on TikTok, you know, regularly.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: She's so wholesome and adorable and, you know, put together all of us, I mean like all of his kids, and you know it's no surprise there.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: But you know, you're seeing these little glimpses of the humanity of the guy, which is something I've personally said people needed to see all along, you know.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: So somebody in the camp listened to me.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I'll take credit for it, why not?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But you know somebody, somebody thought the same thing Like we have to show that this guy is multifaceted.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: He's more than this one dimensional character that people think that he is.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: He is a loving and loved father and grandfather and all those things.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: So it's nice to see those little touches.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: It's good, and it was a little bit harder because of Barron, right, his only young child was a boy.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: So again, go backwards.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: You had the Obama twins, right, the Obama girls.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You had the Bush twins, yep, okay.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: You had Kelsey, right Right Before that.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, before that you had President Bush, who didn't have a young child while he was in office.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: President Reagan did not have a young child while he was.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, yeah, so child while he was?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: So Aaron was the first son right Of any kind of young age in a very long time.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: The girls daughters in the white house were, all you know, dressed.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: You know, they get a little bit more fashiony as they get older.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: They get a little more of this.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: That kid was in a suit.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: He was in a coat and tie.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Every frigging day he was, and you don't get to.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: You didn't get to see the dad do the dad things, right, it's not like God on the White House lawn playing catch, right?
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: So it's a little more difficult, I think, for him to show that softer side.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, but it didn't help that his older kids were walking lockstep behind him in their $2,000 Armani suits, and that didn't help like well, they're, you know they're all.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a family of Amazons.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I mean these are the most.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you a random fact that I didn't know until, just like I don't know, yesterday.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: They're they're like all over six feet tall, except for, well, ivanka is five 11, which blew my mind.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like I knew she was tall, but wow, so you, you know, you have this.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And of course, baron's like six foot seven or something crazy, right, yeah, wow, he's literally the tallest one.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I think next in line was Eric.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: No, maybe I don't know.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't, I know it doesn't matter guys, I know it's just something I'm hyper-focusing on, it's what I do, but anyhow, you, you have this family of like statuesque people, and so that already gives like almost like a coldness, right, because they're so polished, they're so put together.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: You know you don't see that warmth and everything.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So you know, here you go now, bringing the grandkids and the little, the little blonde ones holding grandpa's hand, and bringing them into show and tell, and you know like you do need to do these things.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: It's important.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Yep, a hundred percent.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: You know he's the guy, he's the businessman, he's the guy who gets it done.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: You know we're talking about the Middle East, but he's campaign wise.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: That that is the softer side that they haven't showed, but they're doing a much, much better job of it.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: So he was just on an interview show.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Sean Ryan yes, sean Ryan's awesome former Navy SEAL does a great interview show and he did that with President Trump one-on-one.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Listen, it's not a new.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Nothing he says in that interview is new news, right, right, it's an hour.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: It's all very much the things that we've all heard before, except, I think, the very clear story about the losers and suckers Like he does go story and why it's fake and what really happened and that kind of stuff.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: But the tone of the interview is literally the two of them sitting there three feet apart in a in a lower tone, not you know even he's boisterous, who he is, but it's a lower tone voice, right, and it's show a little bit of a different side, right, yeah?
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant, and along the same with the Elon Musk conversation.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: You know that was, you know, casual.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Like you said, it's just a very different side.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: It all humanizes him and I think that is so incredibly important to reach a demographic of people who only see him.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: You know, this one way which is, you know, I mean, technically that applies to everyone.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we all have this one particular image of him all the time.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So to see that other side, the humanizing, I think is, you know, incredibly important to do.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: You know, because people vote emotionally, we all want, we all want all of us thinking people want people to vote on policy and not personality.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: But we're also realists and we know that people vote on personality.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: So give a softer side of that personality for those people.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you got to do what you got to do, yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: We'll hit one last thing real quick, just because I mean you got to do what you got to do, yeah.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: We'll hit one last thing real quick, just because I mean we're talking about voting on issues and not on policy.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: And I'll give you one last one is you know, the damage that the current administration has done to the Department of Defense and their recruiting efforts is significant.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: We have talked about this before, but there is a very, very tangible example, evidence of the damage that's been caused by DEI wokeness within the military, the soft underbelly that's being exposed and it's happening, but the Navy just announced that they are not going to, they're not decommissioning them, but they are docking 17 ships.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't care what they are I mean, we're not talking an aircraft carrier but 17 ships.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: No joke, right?
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: They can't man them.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: So that is a portion of the fleet.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And again, I don't care if these are support ships, I don't care if they're combat ships, they're integral to the fleet.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: And the fact that we can't man 17 ships, that's a lot, that's a big number, yeah.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And that we can't man 17 ships, that's a lot, that's a big number, yeah.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: And for for those that aren't tracking china's navy and the whole taiwan issue is navy dependent, like we need to be full strength, all oars in the water, like every boat we can get if that goes sideways.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: So, but it puts a strain on the force too.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: That's the second order.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Effect of this is that those 17 ships are not at sea, so somebody has to pick up the slack for those 17 ships.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: So you know, time in port for people is going to be shorter, you're going to see higher turnaround on other ships, you're going to see maintenance issues on other ships All of those things, because we can't man the ones that we have.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Right, yes, I got the ripple effect, the domino effect.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: It's much more than just not having people.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So that is again something to keep in mind as you go to the polls in the next couple of months.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Is that the damage to Department of Defense?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I won't say it's irreparable, we can still fix it, but it's in bad, bad condition right now.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Bad condition and you're about to see and it's going to be very interesting because it's we'll see if they hold the numbers or not.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: The fiscal year for the military ends on the 30th of September.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, their fiscal year recruiting numbers will come out in October, right before the election.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Wow, okay, all right yeah.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: We should know on how each of the services failed because they're all going to fail Right In this year and how bad it really really is.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean, it's important too to put that information out there.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm so glad that you you keep an eye on this, that you're tracking this, because that's incredibly valuable information to have when you go into that voting booth, like where you know how safe do you feel and how safe do you want to feel.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: You know, because this is not.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: You know, this is four years.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: You know we have Kamala Harris telling you all the things that she's going to do, that she's been in office for almost four years and should have already been doing so, oh, my goodness.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: All right guys.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Well, we covered.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of them in tonight we're all over the map.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: We're all over the place.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: We're all over the place.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I will take the blame for that because I came in.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I said this on air yet, but I said it before we got on.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I literally um got off a plane and came home like an hour before um we started recording.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: So that means I had to, like, set up all my stuff.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't do my hair.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm sorry, guys.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I know you caught me fixing my hair every two seconds because I can see myself in.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: See this, this, I can see myself, and it was driving me nuts.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: So don't tell me in the comments that I have to stop touching my hair.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: I know Clay, close it out, send them out.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen everybody.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: We talked about a couple, a lot of great points tonight.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I have been writing about stuff, as I said, we'll put it in the show notes.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: But claynovaccom or claynovac-authorcom goes to my website.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: My blog's on there If you want to see a little bit longer form stuff running out of my mouth, you can find all my stuff there.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: But as lovely to have you back Nice, to be back Two weeks of vacation and I enjoy a little bit.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I'm too much of a straight line guy.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: You're off the map.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Stuff is good for me, I like it.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: We'll be back next week.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: But, as always for me, folks keep moving, take care guys.