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Too Much of a Man · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 3: all right, I'm back on forward. I'm back in the chambers.
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  Speaker 3: intro by me. You curate get some pink. Ste was
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  Speaker 3: all over the place and he dropped that little nugget
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  Speaker 3: of truth halfway through the case and I just it
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  Speaker 3: stuck with me.
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  Speaker 2: That feels like I should go first, is what that
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  Speaker 2: feels like, because I want to be welcome to It's
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  Speaker 2: great to be here.
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  Speaker 1: It's a wonderful place to be.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Danny and I we love TV courtroom shows from a
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  Speaker 3: Judge Judy to Judge Gino.
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  Speaker 1: We love them all and we.
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  Speaker 3: All we watch them and we tell the other person
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  Speaker 3: about the case we watch and then they try to
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  Speaker 3: guess and then we do the same thing two for
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  Speaker 3: one one special. That is yo, Gavel Dan, I'll let
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  Speaker 3: you go first. Who are we going today?
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  Speaker 2: Growing to my boy, Judge Matthies's chambers. This is a
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  Speaker 2: case you need to know. This is the case from
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and eight that's gonna come into play if
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  Speaker 2: you if you didn't know it was from two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and eight to actually it might be from two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and seven.
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  Speaker 1: If you didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: You would be very confused by it would be a
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  Speaker 2: record scratch moment in the case. Okay, you'll know immediately
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  Speaker 2: when you hear it. I promise a right, Anaria Street
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  Speaker 2: is suing Vette Hemphill for four hundred and twenty five
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  Speaker 2: dollars for repayment of a plane ticket. So you go
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  Speaker 2: up to fourth, take a right on fifth and set
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  Speaker 2: Naria Street and then if you drive over two streets
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  Speaker 2: there's a cul de sact.
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  Speaker 1: That's Evet hemp Hill.
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  Speaker 3: Got it?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, I kidding me right now, Come on, this
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  Speaker 1: wet we take last week off.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't it couldn't quite tiled it in right there,
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  Speaker 2: right there? Oh all right, Anaria Street says, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years ago, Evette and I met through a mutual friend. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I brought her with me today. She's my witness, Danielle.
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  Speaker 2: Danielle's over there, like, hey, we love her. It's like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Evatt and I are pretty good friends. We'd shop, we'd party,
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  Speaker 2: we'd take trips to Detroit, hang out at Belle Isle.
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  Speaker 2: Mathis tells us where Belle Isle is. Apparently they each
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  Speaker 2: lived outside of Detroit, but Detroit was where they go
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  Speaker 2: to the clubs. And she was like, we only stopped
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  Speaker 2: talking because of a boy. And Judge Mathis is like
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  Speaker 2: a boy he was of age, right, and thanks, thanks
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  Speaker 2: Judge and Evette says, yeah, he was actually too much
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  Speaker 2: of a man. EV's like, well, yeah, whatever, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know what that's supposed to mean.
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  Speaker 1: That says, you're on her every weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We were in the club in Detroit whatever whatever club
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  Speaker 2: was open. We were there club and uh Danielle while
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  Speaker 2: three of us were there. Danielle had a kid. So
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  Speaker 2: then me and I I already became really close just
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  Speaker 2: going out to the club. We go to Detroit like
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  Speaker 2: every weekend. At this point, Mathis says, how old are y'all?
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  Speaker 2: And they say twenty three, almost twenty four. And he says,
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  Speaker 2: my daughters are around your age. You don't ever see
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  Speaker 2: them down there?
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  Speaker 4: Do you?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know what she looks like.
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  Speaker 2: If that is like, I don't, I don't know, And
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  Speaker 2: he goes, you ever see Jade or Kamara Mathis down there?
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  Speaker 2: You let me know and you tell them that you're
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  Speaker 2: calling me judge Matthis.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't even want his daughters to go to a club
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get it. If you can
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  Speaker 1: go to a club and still be responsible adult.
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  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, ridiculous anyway, if that says and later he
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  Speaker 3: makes it comment about his son, like, I'm not worried
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  Speaker 3: about my son.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Mathis, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Cony and by your definition you love Mathis, but put
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  Speaker 3: me in a tough spot there, brand I'm a fan
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  Speaker 3: of the television program Judge Mathis, I mean human being
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  Speaker 3: Judge matthis what he stands for? If that says basically,
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  Speaker 3: I thought she was my good friend and I found
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  Speaker 3: out she slept with my boyfriend. Anaria me is like,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't do that. I didn't sleep with
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  Speaker 3: her boyfriend. Matthi's like, what convinces you that she was
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  Speaker 3: doing that?
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  Speaker 2: And Ivette says, I got a call from my boyfriend saying,
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  Speaker 2: you better come get your girl. She's crazy. She just
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  Speaker 2: sent the police up to my job. And and Mathews
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  Speaker 2: too much of a man, that's right, yes, yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: boy And then Mathis goes, why what what? And and uh,
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  Speaker 2: event says my boyfriend goes She's saying I took a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of naked photos of her, which I didn't and
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  Speaker 2: and then I said, well, if you were taking photos
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  Speaker 2: of her, then you were sleeping with her, and that's
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  Speaker 2: a problem. And he hung up the phone. So then
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  Speaker 2: she calls up. Then she remembers, uh.
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  Speaker 1: She said.
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  Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, I talked to Anaria and Anaria
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  Speaker 2: said she had found she was talking to a boy
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  Speaker 2: on MySpace. Yes, she described him, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's my boyfriend who you're describing. And then they
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  Speaker 2: realized it and she said she wouldn't go any further,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't go to drinks with him, with him or anything.
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  Speaker 2: So then I called This was a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: I called him up and I was like, where are
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  Speaker 2: you hitting on my friend? And she's in my top eight,
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  Speaker 2: so you know she's my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, yeah, Clari's crystal.
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  Speaker 3: And there's nothing more legally binding than on my top
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  Speaker 3: ep eight top eight.
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  Speaker 2: She was in my top eight, your honor, you know
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  Speaker 2: she was my friend. He had to know she was
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  Speaker 2: my friend. But apparently, even though I got mad at
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  Speaker 2: both of them and an Anaria, well, Anaria just said
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  Speaker 2: she wouldn't go any further, she did, and basically from
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  Speaker 2: July through October they were messing around and I found
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  Speaker 2: out about it.
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  Speaker 3: While she was still in her top eight top eight,
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  Speaker 3: and she was unbelievable. Tom would never uh. Tom's and
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  Speaker 3: Tom's pretty nuts. Tom's pretty nuts, pretty nuts, so much
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  Speaker 3: of a man. Anari is like, uh, if that is
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  Speaker 3: such an exaggerator, your honor. That was not her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 3: She seems to think if you get a boy's number,
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  Speaker 3: then your boyfriend and girlfriend. They never had a serious
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  Speaker 3: relationship when they dated. It was years before i'd even
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  Speaker 3: met them, met him or or her, either one of them.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to make him my boyfriend. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: would date occasionally from July to October. He'd take me
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  Speaker 3: and my friends out. He'd pay for everything. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: who wouldn't want to have somebody like that around from
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  Speaker 3: time to time? And then he'd take na good pictures
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  Speaker 3: of me without my CONSI we'll get there, and no, no,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get there.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get there. Yeah. Then Yvette did.
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  Speaker 2: Know that I went to have drinks with him after
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  Speaker 2: meeting him on mine with him after meeting him on MySpace.
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  Speaker 2: She knew about it, and I told her I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna do it. I didn't say I wouldn't. I said
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  Speaker 2: I would. To me, that wasn't her concern. She's a partier.
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  Speaker 2: She gets dud's numbers and and mass is like, what
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  Speaker 2: are you saying about your friends. She's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying anything about my friend. She doesn't sleep with all
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  Speaker 2: of them. She just is all about like going out
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  Speaker 2: to the club and like getting guys numbers, and there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. And uh, Mass is like, well,
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  Speaker 2: was it or boy her boyfriend or not. Honaria says
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  Speaker 2: it was not. Ivette says it was, but it also
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it was or not. We'd been kicking
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  Speaker 2: it on and off for three years and she knew that.
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  Speaker 2: So we were on and off for three years. She
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  Speaker 2: knew we're friends, and this is this is a guy
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  Speaker 2: I've been seeing on and off for three years.
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  Speaker 3: She shouldn't have been with him, and she told me
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  Speaker 3: she would listen. I know, I will you And we're bros, right,
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  Speaker 3: we bros. We know bro co bro code.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how it works on the other side,
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  Speaker 3: but I would assume the same thing that you don't
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  Speaker 3: do that. You don't do that, don't if you know
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  Speaker 3: that your friend is on and off with this guy.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, this is why I think she brings
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  Speaker 3: Danielle in, which we'll get to a little bit. Honaria says,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't your Honor, we're not sisters. We partied together.
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  Speaker 3: She did not date this guy. I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: she explained this.
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  Speaker 2: If that goes to the club, she gets the boy's
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  Speaker 2: number and all of a sudden thinks that you can't
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  Speaker 2: talk to him. It's crazy. And Maths is like, you're
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  Speaker 2: but you knew she was with this guy, and Anari
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  Speaker 2: is like, I did not know that, your Honor.
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  Speaker 3: When he reached out to me on MySpace, I knew
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  Speaker 3: nothing about this guy. I found out later that he
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  Speaker 3: had a prior relationship with her, but I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: it at the time he reached out to me on MySpace.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what about these pictures?
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  Speaker 2: And uh, she says, well, you gotta know first of all,
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  Speaker 2: there are no pictures.
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  Speaker 1: You need to know.
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, she said, we both found out. We
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  Speaker 2: found out since all this went down, since the family trip,
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  Speaker 2: since the which we're gonna get to, since the flight,
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  Speaker 2: since the stuff. The reason that we're here is she
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  Speaker 2: owes me money for a flight. Yes, we found out
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  Speaker 2: after all of this that he was playing both of
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  Speaker 2: us and he was still with his baby's mother. And
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  Speaker 2: when I found out he was with his baby's mother,
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  Speaker 2: which was before the trip, So that didn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 2: It's before that. It has to before the trip. Someone's
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  Speaker 2: someone's time on is off and he doesn't call her
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever. She says, when I found out, Uh no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: This it had to be before we go. When I
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  Speaker 2: when I found out that he was still with his
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  Speaker 2: baby's mother, I called.
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  Speaker 1: Him on it.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing funny about you saying babies mother, baby's mother,
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  Speaker 3: that's what That's how they said it. Baby, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: When I called him to be like, hey, you're you're
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  Speaker 3: you're messing around on me. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: He said?
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  Speaker 2: He said, I took pictures of you without you knowing
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  Speaker 2: whoa to silence me from telling her. Oh, he said,
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  Speaker 2: if you tell her, then I'm going to release these pictures.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's called blackmail. And I wasn't having it, so
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  Speaker 2: I called the police. So why aren't we suing him?
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  Speaker 2: Gret listen. Mathis does bring this up? Mathis does bring
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  Speaker 2: this up. Mathis says, why does she owe you money?
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  Speaker 2: And she says, well, we were all going to Trinidad
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  Speaker 2: for vacation. My whole family was going to Trinida.
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  Speaker 1: Baga. I think just Trinida I don't think Tobago got mixed,
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  Speaker 1: just Trinida and uh, we're all going there.
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  Speaker 2: And my mom used her credit card to buy everyone's
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  Speaker 2: ticket with the verbal agreement for me an event that
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  Speaker 2: we would pay.
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  Speaker 1: Her back for our tickets. The tickets were five hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars each.
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  Speaker 3: Her mom paid for it, her mom paid for the
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  Speaker 3: credit and they're both gonna pay the mom back.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: So if that didn't make any payments on it for
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  Speaker 2: the first two months, my mom was like, hey, she
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  Speaker 2: hasn't paid me any money. I called her. She said
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  Speaker 2: she was going to pay pay it. She did pay
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty dollars of it. So five seventy
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  Speaker 2: five downe to four twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: You with me so far? Yeah, but to be clear,
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  Speaker 1: she's suing her for the money that she owes her mom.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get there, I promise, all right, And then she
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  Speaker 2: says a vet also knew that these tickets were non refundable.
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  Speaker 2: Ivet says, I did not know they were non refundable,
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  Speaker 2: and I hate that, but I actually, like I would
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  Speaker 2: have loved to have gone on the trip I was
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  Speaker 2: about to do my passport. I was I was gonna
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  Speaker 2: pay for my passport, make another payment on the ticket.
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  Speaker 2: I find out about the fact that she's seeing this
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  Speaker 2: guy and I'm not going on a trip with somebody
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  Speaker 2: that calls me her friend, but then sees my man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, and so I didn't ask to
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  Speaker 2: the money back that I had spent. I just wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to pay her any more money period. So she
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  Speaker 2: does admit to saying she'd pay her back, but it
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  Speaker 2: also was there's no contract. So Mathews, because did you
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  Speaker 2: try to discuss this with an aria Evet says, I
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  Speaker 2: called her. I tried to talk it through on why
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't going, and Mathis goes, but the ticket had
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  Speaker 2: already been purchased. If that says, I had no proof
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  Speaker 2: that the ticket had already been purchased. I was told
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  Speaker 2: how much the tickets were going to be and that
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  Speaker 2: I needed to pay that money back. I did not
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  Speaker 2: see an email, a sheet of paper, a picture. I
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  Speaker 2: saw nothing that the ticket was actually purchased, but I
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  Speaker 2: was told how much it was going to cost, and
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  Speaker 2: I started paying on it. I didn't know if they bought.
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  Speaker 1: The tickets or not. Well, surely there's proof in the cart.
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  Speaker 2: Anaria said she never asked for proof of your honor,
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  Speaker 2: but we could have given her proof. Danielle gets up
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  Speaker 2: an Aari's witness and says, good morning, your honor. I'm
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  Speaker 2: the one that introduced them. Basically, Danielle is just there
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  Speaker 2: to say if that and I aren't very close either.
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  Speaker 2: We also had a falling out because of a boy,
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  Speaker 2: and same exact thing. Ivet goes to the club, she
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  Speaker 2: pulls all these numbers and then if you are talking
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  Speaker 2: to this boy, she gets upset at you. It's what
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  Speaker 2: she does. That was basically the whole extent of her testimony.
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  Speaker 2: Anaria is like, you know, if that exchanges numbers with
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  Speaker 2: somebody and all of a sudden they're hers, we can't
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  Speaker 2: contact them.
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  Speaker 1: That's my whole proof. And matters like how much does
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  Speaker 1: she still eve?
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  Speaker 2: Anaria's like tickets five to seventy five, she paid one fifty,
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  Speaker 2: she ohs four to twenty five vet. Anaria has in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom her mom's credit card statement, the airline credit
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  Speaker 2: statement and ticket that was purchased, and a notarized statement
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  Speaker 2: from her mom stating that Anaria has paid the full
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  Speaker 2: amount to her mom, including a vent's ticket. So okay, Anaria,
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  Speaker 2: her mom on her on behalf of a vet is
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  Speaker 2: asking for a repayment.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Matth is ready to rule.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, she is gonna owe that money at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day. All of this about a.
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  Speaker 1: Man and pictures and.
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  Speaker 3: What she does at the club, that it's all a
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  Speaker 3: smoke screen window drove.
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  Speaker 1: That matters.
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  Speaker 3: She told her that she'd pay her back, and we
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  Speaker 3: know that she had the intention of doing so because
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  Speaker 3: she has paid back some of it.
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna have to pay back the rest of that month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matthew says. Good news is is you have twelve
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  Speaker 2: months to use this credit. You're not paying for nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You're paying for a five hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 2: flight that you still get to you but you o
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  Speaker 2: are the money.
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  Speaker 3: Here's your credit. That's the ruling in favor of the planet.
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  Speaker 3: All then, all done. There you go, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have on to the poop.
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  Speaker 2: But let's head over to the to say the poop basket.
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  Speaker 1: What's your problem? Man, brother?
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  Speaker 2: The people's score want you run a van haam pill
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  Speaker 2: if you just go around the round run back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there, Well, that's a nice thing about Coult sax.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're back in the other direction, and you'll
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  Speaker 3: get back there the old poop back. Let's get to
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  Speaker 3: the people. Let's get to the people's court. The people's
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  Speaker 3: court would judge.
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  Speaker 1: Mill Yon dip it Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I want to introduce you to Stephen. I want to
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  Speaker 3: introduce you to Stephen. Vallas Bear who is suing? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: L L E s p I R Vallas spear, he
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  Speaker 3: is suing Tamika no last name for four hundred and
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  Speaker 3: seventy four stars. Yes, are you ready? I'm ready. Stephen
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: met to Meika. Stephen met Tomika on September eleventh, coming.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Not that September eleventh.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Stephen met to Meka on September eleventh, coming back from
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: his part time job at the home Depot in the
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: garden department.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, are we ready? You're ready, We're all ready. It's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the Pupil's Court. It's nine to eleven. Are we ready?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Are we ready? Stephen?
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Stephen met Tamika on September eleventh, coming back from his
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: part time job at the home Depot where he works
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: in the garden department. She guts off at the same
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: bus stop as him and shares with him that it
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: is her birthday, that's.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Why I guess they remember the date.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, never forget, and that she has no one to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: spend it with. She has no one to spend her
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: birthday with. And so Stephen feels bad about this and
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: they get to talking. He finds out that she was
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: recently struck by a vehicle. She was hit by a truck.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: So she's got a lot going on.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Hit by a truck. She's hit by a truck. She's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: hit by a truck. Lingering injury. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna help her get on disability. We'll get okay,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: all right. But she's just like talking about herself a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: You know, And so she she's got nothing going on
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: in her life, and so he's like, let me take
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: you out to Kentucky Fried Chicken for your birthday, and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: that's what we do around here, and we can celebrate
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: your birthday. We then find out after where you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: he finds out about the incident with the truck and
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: about her disabilities, and he offers to fill out the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: paperwork for her.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: She asks if a judge.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Million asks if they're dating, and Steven says no, he
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: just likes to help people. He helps her fill out
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: papers for disability because he's done it before. He's also
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: on disability, which is why he can only work part
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: time at home depot in the garden department. And so
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: they developed a friendship and she starts coming over, he
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: starts making supper.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: They start watching.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Movies and he says that he had recently moved to
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Long Island, didn't have many friends. It's there, and it
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: was just nice to have someone to hang out with.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Stephen is like I would say, somewhere in his sixties.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: He's a sixty year old fella. Tamika also probably around
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: that same age, and so he, you know, moving Long Onland,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: didn't have any friends.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Tamika, Yeah, nice.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So her grandfather passes away and she wants to go
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to Virginia for the funeral and doesn't have the money
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to do so, either does he, and so he decides
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to get some money from his friends and his daughter
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: to help send her on a bus to get to
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: grandfather's funeral. A few weeks later, he has absolutely nothing left.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: He has no money, and she asks why. Judge Million
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: asks why why he is doing this if he has nothing,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and he says, this may sound strange, Judge, but I'm
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: an eagle scout and I have made an oath to
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: help others, and I do that. I have lots of
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: examples of helping people over the years. She asks what
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: he did before he was disabled, and he said, for
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: twenty years, I developed medicines, the biggest one being the
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: cure for toenail fungus.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard about it, Dan.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: And eventually his department was downsized and now he can't
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: find a job in that field because he has gray hair. Okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: So she asked him if Emilion asked, Hey, were you
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: like attracted to her? And he says, to me, is
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: very smart, nice lady, and yes she's attractive. I did
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: mention to her that it would be interesting if maybe
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: possibly one day she could maybe become my wife.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, I he says. I'm a single person.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And you know, it just depends on if someone falls
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: in love with the other person, and so Judge Million says,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: and if not, it just matters if you have the
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: receipts right. The crowd laughs. Stephen doesn't get it. That's
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: tough to Meika backs up most of the story September eleventh,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: KFC birthday paperwork for the disability. She asks if she
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: is in the middle of a lawsuit for getting hit
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: by a truck, and she says, in fact, I am,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: and that is why he's suing me. He knows I'm
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: about to get some money and he wants some of it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: She asks if he did indeed give her money, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: she says that he gave me fifty dollars before I
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: went on the trip. I didn't go on a bus
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: though I went in my cousin's car. He gave me
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: fifty dollars before I left to be nice.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And she says at any point in time did he
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: use the word loan?
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And she says no, he just likes helping people. She
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: asks if he was sweet on her. I don't really
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: like the terminology there, but judge million.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And she says that he tried.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: You know, he wanted me to be his girlfriend, potentially
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: be his wife. She asks if they ever kissed, to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: which Tamika says no, because I don't do kissing.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Tomika.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And she just he says that he called her his
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: black fiance to his friends, but he never put a
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: ring on my finger, so I wasn't his fiance. She
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: asked how she knows that he called her that, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: she says that she found an email to one of
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: his bodies. So she confronted it about it, and it's like, Steve, listen,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I am black, but I am not your fiance.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And so she began to notice that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Obviously he's getting a bit more at ten hatched, and
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: she tells him that there's nothing going on here.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So apparently, in.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: The paperwork that Steve submitted to the court, he claims
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: that he bought Tamika two wigs. She claims, it doesn't
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: it didn't happen. I don't wear wigs. I might wear weaves,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: but I don't wear wigs. He asks uh. He says
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: that she asks for one hundred dollars once to buy
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: a wig, and he says, I'm not an expert on wigs.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Then another forty dollars for another wig, and he says,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: as you'll see in the packet that I presented, her
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: mom is in the wig business, and I suspect that
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: she just wanted to support.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Her mom by buying wigs.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: She asks, Uh, Tomika, did he ever buy you cigarettes
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: or give you money for nails? She says, no, he
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: gave me fifty dollars and that's it. We then get
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: them the email that she actually submitted, where he wrote
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to his medical buddy, where he was asking for advice
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: on how to help his black fiance with some skin
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: problem that she was having in her back. He says,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: let me explain. One of my best friends is one
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: of the top dermatologists in the world. I know that
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Darbo would help. Shout out Darbo Darbeaux Judgementlyon then begins
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: to ask, but why did you call her your fiance?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: He won't answer.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: He keeps trying to explain that Darboux was trying to
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: help give her give him advice on what he could
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: put on her, and it's just like, but why, but why,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: but why, and he just like won't let it go. Finally,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: he answers that he calls her his fiance because she
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: told him that the possibility existed that maybe one day,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: possibly in the future, maybe she would marry him, So
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: it just seemed like I should call her my fiance.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: To my buddy, Darboux, Uh.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Do you have any text or emails that show that
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: she was going to pay you back for money. He says,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I do not have a sign note from her. What
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I do have his letters from my friends and my
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: daughter where I explain what's going on, but nothing with her.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: She points out that the email to Darboux shout out, Darboux,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: you mentioned giving backrubs. And he says, yes, I did
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: give her back rubs.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And she says, well, that does sound friendly to Mika.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And she says, Tomika, you knew he liked you. Why'd
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: you keep taking stuff from him? And she says he's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: a nice guy and he wants to help, so I
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: let him. Yeah, And Judge Million, he's ready to rule.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: She's not responsible for the fact that Steve kept helping her.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: She just isn't.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Steve is missing a lot of stuff text here, but
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: she doesn't owe any money to Steve.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: There's no way that she owes money to Steve. Uh.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Judge Million says, Steve, you're a good looking guy, you're
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: a smart man. You don't have to buy affection. You
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: just have to shop at the right stuff. That she says,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I don't hear anything that leads me to believe that
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: there was any legally binding agreement to pay you back.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: So you are getting no money. Steve walks outside, wombo,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Oh Steve, Oh Steve, Steve, Steve. That's tough there, you
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: got two court cases every shut out to talk. Oh
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: my god, listen, sometimes you gotta email your buddy, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you're like, well, she said, maybe one day.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It's just the right.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: If I tell my buddy Darbo, maybe Darbo will be
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: happy for me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe. You know what I see here?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I see a fella Steve that clearly really wishes he
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: was still in the game.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: You know, yea, he wishes he was in the medicine game,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and he wishes he was in the love game. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he's not an either. He's not an either. I felt
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: for Steve. Steve is a was a sad man.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Sad man, and Tamika was having a lot of fun
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: with this case.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So there you.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Go, Judge million, Let's come back next week. Let's do
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: it again. Shall we love it? I think we should?
• 26:34
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