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#8 Jesus Christ: Son of God, Son of Man - Pastor Daniel Batarseh · Bible Study with Pr. Daniel Batarseh | Verse by Verse Series | Maranatha Bible Church - Chicago

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  Before we jump into the subject tonight, why don't?
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  We just open our Bibles to Psalms. 119, Psalms 119, I was
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  meditating on this chapter late last night and just going
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  through this. If you ever had the opportunity
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  to I encourage you strongly read Psalms 119 in one sitting, just
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  keep reading it. Just keep reading it.
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  And if you ever want to be challenged, About your devotion
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  and your love for the word of God.
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  Compare it to the psalmist words in this chapter.
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  And look at how the Holy Spirit uses this man to give Insight
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  concerning the power of the word of God.
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  And the reason why we reading this is in light of the Bible
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  study, look at verse 25. My soul clings to the dust give
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  me life according to your word. Now, you can look at that.
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  Physically, you can look at that, spiritually, physically in
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  the sense that he knows that there are those around him that
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  are persecuting him and are planning an attack on him.
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  But spiritually, my soul clings to the dust, I'm as good as
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  dead. I'm so dry.
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  I need life. And how does that life come
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  according to the word? The word, read the word heard.
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  The word received by Faith. Life is imparted.
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  Look at verse 28. Do you feel like verse 28
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  tonight, though? You came in with a smile verse
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  28, my soul. Melts away for sorrow.
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  I literally feel like I'm disintegrating in the inside.
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  I feel like I can't go on another moment.
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  I don't know how I can stay faithful, because I'm barely
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  faithful even today. And look what happens strengthen
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  me according to your word. The Holy Spirit showing us hear
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  something. No matter what, the malady of
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  your soul is tonight. There's strength as you sit, and
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  you hear the word of God, the word of God.
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  Now, you know what the psalmist is meditating on, you know what
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  the psalmist is Proclaim? You know what?
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  The psalmist is finding all this delight in, not the Epistles.
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  The law. Of all things, the law.
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  Yes. The law can be another word to
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  summarize the word of God, but the law, we're talking about the
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  sacrificial law. We're talking about the dietary
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  law, we're talking about the dress codes.
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  We're talking about all the instructions of what to do.
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  If somebody has a spot on his skin or if there's something in
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  a house that's concerning concerning disease and he goes,
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  I love your law. I love those instructions.
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  I love every detail that you give in The Book of Leviticus.
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  Why? Because it reveals the character
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  of God. It reveals the nature of God.
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  And how much more we? How much more should we be
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  infatuated? And Intoxicated by this word,
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  when we have the full counsel of God, I say that this a trust
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  that as you and I sit here tonight that strength will be
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  imparted into your soul and as you leave and you go back home
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  after a long week of work, you will know that you ate from his
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  table. And that you can go on another
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  week because of his word. Let's pray.
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  Father, we pray tonight that we would no matter where Soul sits
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  tonight you would strengthen us according to your word Lord, we
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  pray that this Bible study would be delivered in a Clarity of
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  speech freedom from confusion, Lord, Freedom From Any Spirit of
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  debate, in an unhealthy way. And we ask Lord that we would
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  simply see Christ elevated and we would love and adore him.
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  All the more. So we pray that the Holy Spirit,
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  your Holy Spirit would grant us the spirit of wisdom and
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  Revelation law. We That we would know what we
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  believe in even more, and it would cause us to love you even
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  more. And it would cause us to go out
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  with a greater boldness and confidence in who you are and
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  what you have to offer to all men.
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  We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ.
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  All of God's people say, amen. there are many titles in the
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  Bible that describe Jesus Christ.
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  There are many descriptions that are designated towards the
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  second person of the Trinity. And I'm sure right now, if we
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  spend the next five minutes, we can list several common titles
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  that Christ holds concerning himself and how the rest of
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  scripture testifies about him. Two of those titles.
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  Are the son of God. And what's the second one?
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  The son of man, Son of God, Son of Man, the scriptures describe
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  Jesus way Jesus defines himself in both ways.
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  Now when you hear Son of God what's the immediate Association
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  that comes concerning the nature of Jesus?
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  When Jesus says I am the Son of God, what comes to mind
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  concerning his nature? Is Divinity that he is equal in
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  essence. That he is equal with God, he is
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  of the same nature. Now when you hear son of man,
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  what comes to mind concerning his nature, his humanity, and so
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  the common understanding of Jesus being the Son of God,
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  Jesus being the son of man, is that him being the Son of God,
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  deals with his deity, and him being the son of man deals with
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  his Humanity, right? That's kind of the easy answer,
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  but the scripture is Go deeper than that.
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  Because many people who attacked the person of Christ.
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  Mainly, his deity will often point to the truth that
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  throughout the scriptures. The title Son of God, or sons of
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  God, or just simply sun, and reference to relationship with.
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  God is not just given to Jesus, but given to other persons, And
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  when you think about the son of man, Jesus had a way deeper
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  understanding of what he meant. When he said he was the son of
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  man. And so, what's funny is, when we
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  think of Son of God, we think immediately deity.
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  When in fact, the Bible uses Son of God for humans and other
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  spiritual creatures. And when we think of son of man,
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  we think Humanity, when in fact, son of man is actually used to
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  describe deity that funny. And so, back to the point that
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  often times, people will use these two titles to attack the
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  person of Christ. And to lower him on the same
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  level as other created beings to try to discourage us and to
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  confuse us into thinking that he's not really God In the
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  Flesh. And so I need several volunteers
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  just for scripture references. Okay, so let's do this popcorn
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  style. Don't be afraid to read out
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  loud. I need somebody to open their
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  Bibles to don't read it just yet.
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  We're gonna get all the references out first.
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  Somebody to pull out, Job chapter 1, Verse 6, Job, chapter
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  1, verse 6, just lift your hand if you want.
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  Job chapter 1, verse 6. Okay, Jennifer Job, chapter 1,
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  verse 6 and and also 2:1 another person for Hosea Hosea 11:1, Tim
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  Hosea 11:1, another person. First Chronicles, 20 to nine and
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  ten First Chronicles, Matt 22, 9 and 10.
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  Another one at Luke 3:38. Michael.
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  Luke 3:38 to marry. You got the next one?
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  All Acts chapter 17 38. For another one.
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  You got that tumor Another one Romans 8:14 215.
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  Did you already do one? No, I didn't give you one.
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  Okay, you get Romans 8:14 15. I feel like you got one, didn't
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  you? You can have to, it's okay.
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  What's that first Chronicles? 20 to nine, and ten.
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  And lastly, Matthew 5:9 who wants Matthew, 5:9, Matthew, 5:9
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  Matthew 5:9 Evan. Okay.
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  All right, so let's go from the beginning Job, chapter 1 and
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  listen carefully. If you're reading, Boom, your
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  voice. So we can all hear Job.
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  Chapter 16 and in job, 2116. Now, there was a day when the
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  sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord.
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  And Satan also came among. Them.
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  You go to verse 1 as well. Yeah.
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  So you heard that right? The sons of God came before The
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  Throne of God. Who knows what the sons of God
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  are in that context Angelic beings, right?
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  To one will say the same thing. Again, there was a day when the
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  sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord.
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  And Satan also came among them, to present himself before the
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  Lord. Again, we see this Angelic
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  beings who identified collectively as the sons of God,
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  who are approaching the Throne of God, okay?
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  Who has Hosea? Tim, please.
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  What Israel, as a child. I loved him and out of Egypt.
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  I called my son. Okay?
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  So Israel is identified as who son, son, of, who Son of God.
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  Okay, so we have Angel like beings collectively referred to
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  as sons of God we have the nation of Israel as a whole
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  referred to as a Son of God who has a next one.
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  Who has first Chronicles 22? Yes, First Chronicles 10:22
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  behold. The son shall be born to you.
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  Who shall be a man of rest? I will give him rest from all
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  the surrounding enemies. For his name shall be Solomon,
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  and I will give you peace and quiet and quiet to Israel and
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  his days, he shall build a house for my name.
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  He shall be my son and I will be his father and I will establish
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  his Royal throne and is interesting.
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  So David is speaking to his son. Lemon and is explaining to him
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  how though he desired in his own heart to build a house for the
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  Lord. There was too much blood on his
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  hands. And so God says, you're not
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  going to build a house, your son Solomon is going to build the
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  house, he's going to be a man of rest.
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  He's not going to be a man of war and the Lord refers to and
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  relates to Solomon as his son and him being his father in
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  relationship to what that through the delivery davidic
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  lineage, those who would sit on an Earthly Throne, as a
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  representative of God would in some sense, relate to him as Son
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  to a father. So even on a royal sense, we see
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  this language of son and father that God has given to me or man
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  who has the next reference in, Luke 3:38, the son of Seth, the
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  son of Adam, the Son of God, so Luke 3 is a genealogy of Jesus
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  and at the end of that genealogy we come down to Adam and how is
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  Adam titled? Can you read it again?
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  This is the Son of God. The Son of God, Adam created
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  being you see where we're going with this.
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  How this title? The Son of God is given to other
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  created. Beings acts 17:28, acts 17:28,
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  Tamara for him. Okay, so we see there, that Paul
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  is evangelizing, and as he's evangelizing, he's describing
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  how Humanity because they are God's created beings are in a
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  sense, his offspring, not in the sense of you.
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  And I, when we're born again into his family, but generally
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  in humanity, we are brothers and sisters.
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  And so the idea of us being God's Offspring is their
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  children of God, Sons and Daughters of God so to speak.
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  Okay? We have Romans 8:14 15 for all
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  who are led by the spirit of the God are sons of God for you.
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  Did not receive the spirit of Slavery to fall back into fear
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  but you have received the spirit of adoption as Sons by whom we
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  cry Abba Father. Okay, so we're because we come
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  into Union with Christ we're not just merely God's Offspring.
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  Like Acts 17:28 says but because we received the Holy Spirit
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  indwelling in a ceiling us, we now are called sons of God and
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  we can relate to him as such in a familial sense.
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  And the loving intimate way, we have been given access to be
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  called Sons and Daughters of God because of the finished work of
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  Jesus Christ. But sons of God.
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  What's the difference between me being called the Son of God and
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  Jesus being called the son of God?
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  Lastly Matthew 5:9 will sit on the peacemakers for they shall
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  be called sons of God. Blessed are the peacemakers for
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  they shall be called sons of God.
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  In other words, those who would reflect and Obey God's will.
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  In a sense are imitating him and are walking out his nature.
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  And so they are therefore referred to as sons of God.
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  So you read through your Bible, you see, all these references.
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  You see, all these things given two different mere creatures.
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  And so the argument goes, that Jesus Christ is not really
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  Divine. In light of all those
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  references, he is simply perhaps, at best God's most
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  exalted creature that has walked out in obedience and good works.
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  Pure in heart. Glorifying God, Etc.
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  You see how the argument can go. What's so special about the
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  title Son of God? If it's been granted to so many
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  others. And the argument is again,
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  because those titles are given to specific types of people were
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  obviously walking in righteousness faithfulness,
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  obedience. So his Christ, but that doesn't
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  make him divine. And to prove how this is not the
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  case. We're actually going to go to
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  one of the verses that is the go-to versus two further attack.
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  The deity of Christ. Can you think of what that verse
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  is? It uses a specific word that a
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  lot of modern translations are not using as much starts with
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  the letter B begotten. We're going to need you in John
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  3:16. John 3:16 Paul.
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  When you get there, can you read John 3:16 to us, please?
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  For God. So loved the world that he gave
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  his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him
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  should not perish but have everlasting life.
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  Did you hear it? We know this verse everybody
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  knows this verse but it's that word begotten, that may cause a
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  lot of trouble and that would be cotton is unfortunately used as
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  ammunition to attack the deity of Christ.
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  What does it mean to be get someone?
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  Or someone to be gotten to Father?
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  Someone sure. There's more specific
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  definition. To deliver to deliver said he
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  got. He got he got in.
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  Okay, this is what does it mean in the natural sense?
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  It's for someone to come into existence by the process of
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  reproduction. It's for someone to come into
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  existence through the process of reproduction.
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  Now, why is that a problem in light of this verse as defines
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  Jesus Christ, in terms of our theology, Because he's a turtle.
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  So, so how can the word begotten be used to describe Jesus
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  Christ. In fact, there are those who
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  would blasphemously say, mockingly, That Jesus Christ.
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  You Christians believe is the result of God, the Father
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  sexually unifying himself with Mary to be get Jesus Christ.
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  Muslims would accuse Christians of this thought.
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  And again I really really don't like to go to the original
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  languages often just because it's important to go there but
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  we don't have all that resources for us as we can get those
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  resources but we're not all Greek Scholars here.
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  But again sometimes we have to and we're going to see how just
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  a little bit of research into the original.
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  Can go a long way when you look at the word only begotten, this
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  is in the King James, but if you see it in the ESV, you won't see
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  only be gone. What will you see in the ESV?
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  Only use going to get only, you're not going to get beat
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  begotten, you can only going to get only new King James nasb.
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  Will say only begotten a lot of the newer translations will only
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  say only now only pay attention only and only begotten, even
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  though it's two words, their deriving it from the same, Greek
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  word, okay, monogenes, pretty much.
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  And that word in its right context, actually means
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  something such as one of a kind or unique in the right context.
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  It doesn't necessarily mean to come into existence like a child
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  does through reproduction. It actually means one of a kind
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  or unique in its right context. And how we can take that word
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  and prove that just by going to the scriptures and not having to
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  be a Greek scholar is to see how the word only is used in a
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  different context to describe a different person that backs up
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  what we're saying concerning Jesus Christ.
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  So we need to go to this verse. This is you want to go to John
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  3:16, you want to write something your Bible.
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  If you write something in your Bible, right?
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  Hebrews 11:17, Hebrews, 11:17 shows us how begotten?
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  Or only or only begotten? Is far more significant than the
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  meaning of coming into existence by reproduction, Hebrews 11:17.
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  Can you read it again in the King James Paul, please Hebrews
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  11:17. Yeah.
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  By faith Abraham when he was tried offered up Isaac and he
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  that had received the promises offered up, his only begotten
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  son. Did you hear it?
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  In that beautiful chapter, the Hall of Faith, goes on to gum to
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  Abraham and described how he in faith gave up his son, Isaac and
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  it defines him as his only begotten son, again ESV will say
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  only son. Now, why is that interesting in
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  light of understanding the story of Isaac and Abraham?
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  He had another son smile yet another son Ishmael, here's
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  another here's another question. Just this is a side question.
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  How many sons and total that Abraham have?
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  93. 45 total including Isaac and Ishmael.
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  How many sons of Abraham have Genesis 25?
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  Can you pull up Genesis 25 1 and 2?
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  How many sons that how many kids that Abraham have total?
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  Find out. This is after Sarah passed away.
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  Abraham took another wife, whose name was what Keturah.
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  And she bore him Zimmern Josh. N me Dan.
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  Midian is back and schewe. And then they just goes on to
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  the genealogist, how many we are there. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, 8 total
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  a total. Now even if you don't include
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  Genesis 25, we know that Ishmael was born before Isaac.
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  So how can the scriptures Define Isaac as only begotten, when
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  Ishmael was already a teenager that point Yes, unless of course
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  according to the original language that word begotten or
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  only are only begotten does not mean to come into existence, but
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  means being unique or one of a kind in relationship to another.
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  And so when we take that truth in Hebrews, 11:17, and how was
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  Isaac unique? He was born to Sarah, Ishmael
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  was born to Hagar and he was the son of the Covenant.
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  He had a unique Ich relationship with his father and likewise the
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  Holy Spirit uses that same imagery and even uses that same
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  story to be a prophetic picture of Jesus Christ.
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  Yes, as the Son of God, yes, even that title being used
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  amongst other people and other creatures, but having a
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  one-of-a-kind unique relationship with the father.
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  Do we see? Do see how powerful that is.
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  So in John 3:16 that is not averse to use to.
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  Say that Jesus came into existence by reproduction or any
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  other. Any other way.
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  Know what John is saying by the holy spirit.
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  Is that Jesus Christ? Yes, as the Son of God holds a
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  unique one-of-a-kind, special relationship with the father.
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  How so by having an eternal intimate fellowship with him,
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  even before everything else was created.
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  How is Jesus Christ unique? Amongst all the other so-called
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  sons of God, this is how he's unique, he was eternally in the
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  bosom of the father. That's how he's unique.
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  So if anything that word only solidifies the reality that he
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  is, in fact, Eternal, because he's unique because he's not
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  unlike others, that's what it's trying to say.
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  Do we see that this is so crucial to understand especially
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  with a verse like that? That so often used to try to
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  intimidate Christians, shall we have further proof of this John
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  20:17, we already went through this verse but let's hear it
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  again. John 20:17.
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  It's good to go over some familiar verses.
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  Jesus said to her, this is after his resurrection.
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  Do not cling to me for I have not yet ascended to the father,
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  but go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my
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  father and your father to my God, and your God.
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  Now we already settled mainly what he meant by saying my God
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  and your God, just for the sake of her memory.
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  Why did he say my God? How can Jesus have a god?
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  Because he's the God of All Flesh.
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  According to Jeremiah 32 27. Jesus Christ took on flesh.
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  And as he took on flesh, he assumed to be in subjection to
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  God as his God. All Flesh including the
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  Incarnate son. But let's look at, I am
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  ascending to my father, and your father.
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  Now, why didn't Jesus say our father?
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  He could have I'm sending to our father.
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  He didn't very specific with his language.
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  I am ascending to my father and your father.
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  We can call god father, by what by Grace.
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  How through adoption, through the finished, work of Jesus
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  Christ, the firstborn among many Brethren.
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  We've been given access into the family of God, to be able to
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  say, Abba Father, but only Jesus Christ has a unique place in
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  that understanding of him being father in that, he was not
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  adopted. He was not brought in at one
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  point in history, he was eternally the son of God.
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  So he can say my father and your father that's a wonderful Truth
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  for us. It makes a distinction because
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  he alone had an eternal fellowship with him.
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  In an intimate way, read John 1:18.
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  It says that he was always in the bosom of the father so close
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  is so intimate. Depending on your translation
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  might say he was always at the father's side but it's speaking
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  about close proximity speaking. About this knowledge of one.
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  Another that is unique this isn't this is A side verse.
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  This is powerful. Don't turn there if you can.
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  Please put up Matthew 11:27 Matthew 11:27 just to hear and
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  understand that, this son of God, is unique, all things have
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  been handed over to me by my father and no one knows the son,
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  except the father. The sun is e comprehendible and
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  no one can fully comprehend the sun, except one the father.
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  Who can say that, what creature can say?
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  No one can fully grasp me. No one can fully comprehend me.
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  Except God Alone. And no one knows the father
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  except the son and anyone to whom the son chooses to review.
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  Do you see the exclusivity there?
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  You see that tight-knit relationship there?
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  Do you see that the Son and the father knowing one another and
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  whoever has been given access to no father as Father the Son
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  chooses to reveal to him? So we can't put Jesus though
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  that title, Son of God are sons of God or son and reference to
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  God is shared. We can't put Jesus on the same
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  level as man. Here's another one.
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  Just don't turn there. You can just pay attention to
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  the screen and Mark 12. Jesus shares a parable.
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  Jesus shares a parable, Mark chapter 12 beginning in verse 1,
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  we know this This is Matthew can turn to Mark, please.
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  Thank you. And he began to speak to them in
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  Parables a man planted a Vineyard and put a fence around
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  it. And dug a pit for the winepress
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  and built the Tower and leased it to tenants and went into
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  another country. So remember tenants, he leased
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  it to tenants and he left to another country.
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  When the season came, he sent a servant to the tenants to get
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  from them, some of the fruit of the vineyard.
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  Now, if you're familiar with this Parable, who the tenants
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  represent the Pharisees, the religious authorities of Israel
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  are the tenants that have been given responsibility to We
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  manage and cultivate the vineyard and to bear fruit as
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  the people of God. And in order to gather fruit,
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  what is the Lord say, says that the owner of the vineyard sends
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  his servant and now, what did they do to this sermon?
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  They took him and beat him and sent him away empty-handed.
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  You can go to the next verse Again, he sent them another
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  servant and they struck him on the head and treated him
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  shamefully, and he sent another and him.
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  They killed. And so with many others, someday
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  beat, and someday killed now, who did the servants represent
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  the prophets? God, sending one messenger after
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  the other to come and to continually remind, the people
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  of who they are in their identity in relationship to God,
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  and how they ought to walk Faithfully to God, and how they
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  respond killing destroying beating shaming, and we go on.
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  He had still one other. A beloved Son.
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  Finally, he sent him to them saying they will respect my son.
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  But those tenants said to one another, this is the heir come.
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  Let us kill him, and The Inheritance will be ours.
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  And it took him and killed him and threw him out of the
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  vineyard. I'm either side.
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  So we have another category. Now, what's the third category?
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  Only one only one person fits that category, beloved Son, the
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  Beloved son, who is the heir of all things, concerning the owner
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  of the vineyard now. Why do we bring this Parable up?
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  Because we see that Christ in this?
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  Parable, distinguishes himself, even from the most Faithful
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  Servants of God throughout the ages.
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  These prophets that went forth to represent God.
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  God and to speak forth, his word Christ, elevates himself above
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  those Messengers who say that he is preeminent and transcended
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  because he alone was eternally and fellowship in intimacy with
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  God and he alone is the air possessor.
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  All things I got almost. So even in a parable like this,
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  we see that Christ is Sanctified amongst even the greatest of
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  men. This is a powerful understanding
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  concerning the nature of God. I want to design a question,
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  just for the sake of dialogue, and this is important to
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  understand you maybe it never fought this, but this is
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  actually welcome to the Christian World.
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  Geology, this is the baited subject.
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  This specific question. Jesus Christ, being the Son of
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  God, it's clear. It's a reality we see here, but
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  some even amongst Evangelical Christians that are not Heretics
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  per se. There are two sides to this
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  understanding of Jesus, being the Son of God, and this is
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  important to understand. The one side is that the Son of
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  God, the title Son of God does not necessarily speak about his
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  nature as much as he speaks about his submissive role that
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  he took upon himself. And so Jesus Christ, in other
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  words was not always the Son of God, but he became the Son of
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  God, not in the game. God not that, he's any less than
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  God, but he took on the role of Son of God at a specific time in
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  history. What point do you think that is
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  his birth? His Incarnation.
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  So you have some genuine Believers.
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  I don't deny the deity of Christ that don't deny that.
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  Jesus Christ is fully. God, they don't deny it.
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  That they don't, they don't say that he was created.
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  But what they do say is that when he was born, even through
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  the miraculous conception, that was the moment where he became
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  the son of God. Do you notice how this is?
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  No. Jesus Christ always was the son
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  of God. I did it didn't happen.
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  It didn't come into existence that time it was a roll.
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  It's his nature to years even from the beginning where you
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  said we weren't stoned you. Don't worry.
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  Do you? Do you understand this idea of
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  some, God has more of a role or more of his nature from eternity
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  past and see why this is important.
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  This night is not just, let's just argue for kicks.
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  There's a reason. And what we have been saying?
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  What position we hold to. Yes he personally I'd say he was
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  always the Son of God to say that he just took on that role
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  when he was born as denouncing, the triangle God saying he
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  wasn't trying being until Jesus got born on.
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  You could say make the same argument for the Holy Spirit and
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  the Holy Spirit didn't come into play, until he came down at a
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  Pentecost. Well, I would say this the those
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  who hold to that, you don't say that Jesus Christ did not
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  eternally exist or was not a part of the Trinity is that he
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  assumed the role of a servant by becoming the Son of God in a
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  subordinate way. That's what we're trying to say
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  here. So those who say this are
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  genuine Believers, and they're not saying that Jesus Christ
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  didn't exist until he became a person.
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  They're saying that the title, the role of Son of God was
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  brought about at the Incarnation.
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  Yeah I believe in some got is some eternal Ali son.
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  But there is a verse that always know.
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  I have a question about it when he said you are my son today, I
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  have begotten you, so if he's eternally and that verse talk
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  about eternally is starting today.
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  I've been recording you like such as there is a certain day
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  or there is a beginning, so how you reconcile that?
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  Yeah, we'll get to that. That's a Hebrews 15 speaks about
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  how the father's is today. I have begotten, you, that's an
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  important verse. Yes, Because I mean, I'm done.
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  I'm not denying that like I believe that he's internal, but
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  that's like within the Trinity, the Trinity was always there
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  because God is eternal, but I believe that when he came into
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  the world as a baby you know his birth was him breaking out into
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  three parts in one. And him taking on that role as
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  the Son of God I'm coming into the world is when we kind of got
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  those three. I don't know.
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  I understand but we understand where you're coming from and
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  before we move on just to put up, Luke 1:35 to see where
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  people are coming from to back up that view that Jesus Took on
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  that role. As a Son of God, his birth Luke
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  1:35 and the angel answered. The holy spirit will come upon
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  you and the power of the most high will overshadow you.
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  Therefore the child To be born will be called.
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  Holy the son of God. Jackie had your hand up
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  so would it be? Would it be?
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  So you're saying that he was always the Son of God.
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  But two thousand years ago he became the son of man because
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  that kind of gives more of a human connotation to it.
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  It's an interesting view. Okay we're going to see.
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  We're going to find out in a moment that the son of man has
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  more Divine element to it than we think.
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  Yes. I don't want to point out that
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  and say, okay, no, this is a specific period of time in which
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  God had begotten cries. I don't hold to that by the way,
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  when I'm just adding 3 4 5 right.
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  Right? Right.
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  It's okay. We like fire.
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  Fires. Good.
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  As long as it's safe and it stays within the boundaries
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  fires good. Luke 1:35, right?
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  He shall be called. Holy the son of God.
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  Phoebe. Yeah.
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  Can you stop being the same guy who didn't have anything to do
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  with this package, like forgot to offer of his only son?
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  Seems to me more of a sacrificial things.
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  Mmm, did you guys hear that perspective?
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  If Jesus was not the son before his Incarnation, then does that
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  dilute the sacrificial? Love that God displays in
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  sending his son into the world. That's a good point.
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  Yes. This is good fires, good.
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  Anybody want to add some more fuel to the fire?
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  Maybe going back to John, 3:16 God.
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  So loved the world. Sure he gave his son.
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  How can that language be used for the second person of the
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  Trinity when he wasn't born yet. My son is mentioned in the Old
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  Testament, psalms and Proverbs, and Psalms to, and Father's Day,
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  right? Son of God.
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  Or son of man. Just some kiss, the son, lest he
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  be angry and you perish. Okay, so so in the Old
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  Testament, we see that there is reference to the sun before the
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  Incarnation. That's the point.
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  That's a beautiful Point. Yes.
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  Paul. The people would say that that's
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  a reference to Future event. That's so it's prophetic, it's
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  not a present reality. Why are you sure?
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  Yes. Cautions 1:16 says, at the end
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  it says everything was created through him and for him.
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  So meaning like it's God. And then for him at the same
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  time, sure. Yes.
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  It's a beautiful verse of defendant deity of Christ and
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  nobody would deny again, that Christ was divine before his
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  Incarnation but the Argument is he wasn't always known and
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  referred to and related to within the internal relationship
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  of the godhead as the sun. Is this important we're is this
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  important. It is important.
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  Okay? Any other input or opinion or
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  versus before we dive into it and want.
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  Yeah. Okay so another verse the back
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  of the deity of Christ sure she wasn't the Sun.
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  What was he A good question. Here's another one.
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  If he wasn't the son, was there a father?
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  So son. No, son before Incarnation.
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  Then can we relate to God as father?
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  And we've talked about the Trinity and we talked about how
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  God is referred to as father in the Old Testament.
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  So now we got some trouble here, don't we?
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  Father of who Is it just a random thing that God has given
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  himself? No, I just have a verse that
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  interesting. So the Lord said to my Lord
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  capitalized, it's a prophetic Psalm.
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  Right? And I think we can go back to
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  Paul's argument to say yeah, we see that this is speaking about
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  Jesus but this isn't speaking about necessarily present
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  reality as much as it is speaking about a future event.
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  Did you contact your father? I think
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  you really added fuel to the fire.
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  Yeah, it's a good fuel though. It's good because oftentimes
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  people will point to that. I'm not saying you're doing
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  this, but I'm saying, oftentimes, People point to that
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  prophetic verse to say, how There's no distinction within
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  the godhead, because the sun is referred to, as the Everlasting
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  Father, which I would simply argue that we can go in depth
• 37:39
  with that would simply argue. It's not making the Son and the
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  Father, the same person but it is saying that the sun does
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  carry a fatherly like characteristic and love and
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  compassion and care. Yes,
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  probably thirty three and four. Mmm.
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  Yeah. So we speak with right, right,
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  right. Right.
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  The holy ones, son. And that's what many Anna was
• 38:18
  bring up. Psalms chapter 2 and Proverbs
• 38:19
  Chapter 30. We remember we spent time to see
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  how the Sun the Not just Jesus, but the son that title is found
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  in the Old Testament. So yes for Shadows.
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  What's going to happen? Obviously Jesus, is that coming
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  to completion and that playing out.
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  So I feel like the concept of the sun was there the whole
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  time, but then I feel like it also poses, the question, why on
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  Earth then did we go through the entire Old Testament of, you
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  know, making sacrifices with animals or like, whatever.
• 38:54
  Like why didn't you just come in sooner, then and then Where's
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  the purpose of how important his birth is and him coming into the
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  world, to fulfill that purpose? So I guess like I feel like the
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  concept of the son, the Holy Spirit and as that was all there
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  and obviously it existed because the three-in-one and Father's
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  Eternal and he's always existed. But I feel like that role coming
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  in the play didn't come into play until until his
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  incarnation. I hope we can stay friends.
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  Luke 1:35, if you can bring that up again please and the angel
• 39:37
  answered her. The holy spirit will come upon
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  you and the power of the most high will overshadow you.
• 39:42
  Therefore, the child to be born will become the son of God.
• 39:47
  No, I didn't say that. The for the child to be born
• 39:50
  will be called holy the Son of God, there's a big difference.
• 39:55
  There's a big difference between being called and becoming to say
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  that Jesus Christ was called the Son of God does not indicate
• 40:04
  that. And this moment he assumed the
• 40:07
  role of sun in relation to the godhead, what it does do though
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  is affirm the miraculous conception and birth of the Son
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  of God declares that he Is the Son of God, it does not make him
• 40:22
  the Son of God. So many of those who would say
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  that it was at this moment that Jesus became the Son of God.
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  Have to explain where in different moments and different
• 40:33
  events, the main events of Jesus life death burial, Resurrection
• 40:38
  Ascension, have to explain why he's referred to and identified
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  as a Son of God in those moments as well.
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  This will make sense when we go to the reference.
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  Romans 11 Romans. One.
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  Romans 11 and will read 2 verse 4.
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  And we'll see what we're trying to argue here.
• 40:59
  Paul a servant of Christ Jesus called to be an apostle set
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  apart for the gospel of God, which he promised beforehand
• 41:07
  through His prophets in the Holy scriptures, concerning his son
• 41:13
  Okay, who was descended from David, according to the flesh.
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  Now, look at this end was what declared to be the Son of God in
• 41:21
  power. According to the spirit, when
• 41:24
  was he declared to be the Son of God, of Holiness, by his
• 41:27
  resurrection, from the dead? Jesus Christ, Our Lord. so, if
• 41:35
  he was called, Son of God at his birth, What do we do with a
• 41:41
  purse? Like this?
• 41:42
  That says that he was declared to be the Son of God and Power
• 41:44
  by his resurrection. Unless of course the scriptures
• 41:50
  are not saying we can go to different events especially his
• 41:52
  Ascension unless of course these verses are not saying that in
• 41:56
  those moments in those Supernatural events.
• 41:59
  That was the moment that he was begotten.
• 42:00
  That was the moment, he was referred to as the Sun but that
• 42:03
  his miraculous birth his, conquering victory over death.
• 42:08
  Shout it to the world. This is the Son of God.
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  Do we see? It's not saying he became the
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  Son of God. Those events are only.
• 42:18
  Identifying him as Son of God. It's just affirming that he is
• 42:22
  truly God In the Flesh. He is truly God over death, he
• 42:28
  is truly God's son in which God has ascended him and approved of
• 42:32
  his death and his sacrificial work on behalf of humanity.
• 42:36
  Does that make sense? It's identifying, it's not
• 42:39
  saying that he became that thing or became that role.
• 42:43
  Here are some verses to back that up Just Popcorn.
• 42:45
  Versus we can see him on the screen.
• 42:46
  You can write them down first, John. 414.
• 42:50
  First John 4:14? And these versus what they do is
• 42:54
  really just prove that Jesus was referred to as the son before he
• 42:57
  came into the world. And we have seen and testify
• 42:59
  that the father has sent his son.
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  To be the savior of the world. He sent his son to be the savior
• 43:07
  of the world so he didn't become the son at the Incarnation.
• 43:10
  He was son before he was sent first.
• 43:14
  John 3:8. First, John 3:8, whoever makes a
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  practice at all. This verse always gets me,
• 43:22
  whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil.
• 43:26
  John is of the devil for the devil has been sinning from the
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  beginning. The reason now look at this is
• 43:33
  powerful, the reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the
• 43:37
  works of the devil. So the Son of God was always the
• 43:40
  Son of God and he manifested himself as the Son of God to
• 43:44
  destroy the works of Satan. The Works of the devil.
• 43:49
  What's the works of the devil, many things.
• 43:50
  And here's one of them, the power of sin over our lives, the
• 43:55
  Temptation that he brings that you.
• 43:56
  And I can now say no to because of the indwelling power of the
• 43:58
  Holy Spirit. The reason the Son of God
• 44:00
  appeared was to destroy. But the main point here is the
• 44:02
  Son of God appeared, the Son of God, manifested himself, Here's
• 44:07
  one more glacius for for Galatians 4:4.
• 44:18
  But when the fullness of time had come God sent forth his son.
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  Born of woman born under the law.
• 44:27
  Do you see the order there? Sent forth his son to be born of
• 44:31
  woman to be born under the law. Let's just read it just because
• 44:34
  we can rejoice in this gospel. Truth to redeem those who were
• 44:36
  under the law that we might receive adoption as Sons.
• 44:40
  Amen. Now let's go back to that point
• 44:44
  of why is this important? Why is this important it?
• 44:46
  Can we can we maybe dialogue about that.
• 44:48
  Why is it important to realize that Jesus was always the Son of
• 44:51
  God and that he became the Son of God at one point in history?
• 44:58
  Bring because of his relationship with God.
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  That it. He took it to mean one of the
• 45:02
  reasons why we believe that that kind of relationship.
• 45:33
  I think you guys just cover the main points when we understand
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  that God the father and God the son always existed that they
• 45:39
  assume those roles in those were there, there identify their
• 45:42
  identities in essence, we understand that their
• 45:45
  relationship is so much richer than we can imagine.
• 45:49
  We understand that it enriches the understanding of the
• 45:51
  community within the godhead. A loving father and the son
• 45:56
  being the object of his love and vice versa.
• 46:00
  Always existing always being there.
• 46:02
  Now, you remove son you by default.
• 46:04
  Remove father and now we have a nameless God before Jesus Christ
• 46:08
  became incarnate More, right.
• 46:25
  So I think what's to understand, is that Son of God is not a
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  role, as much as it is an identity and Christ him in
• 46:32
  nature, being the Son of God. And so we see that in enriches,
• 46:37
  the relationship within the godhead.
• 46:38
  And not only that, it provides a greater depth and understanding
• 46:41
  the love of God for all Humanity when he sent forth his son, his
• 46:47
  son. Now there are some young parents
• 46:49
  in here. Could you imagine giving up your
• 46:51
  child not for a world? That's Going to be saved
• 46:54
  necessarily, but for Rebels and enemies against you. so we
• 47:02
  understand that there is this richness and realizing the
• 47:05
  Eternal sonship of Christ and relationship to the father and
• 47:09
  in relationship to us being Redeemed by The godhead in
• 47:14
  Harmony and in love for one another and for us to come up
• 47:19
  with this salvific plan to save us.
• 47:23
  So this is important for us to realize, let's not undermine the
• 47:27
  love of God by failing to realize that he was eternally
• 47:30
  the son. Now, we stablished that right,
• 47:37
  we established the fact yesterday.
• 47:40
  I believe what you're saying. And Hebrews 1.
• 47:49
  Yeah that's mean if you look at it that's mainly speaking about
• 47:51
  his Ascension. So again we see we see we see
• 47:55
  the Incarnation, we see Resurrection, we see Ascension
• 47:59
  Hebrews 1, read the verses proceeding that and you realize
• 48:02
  that he's speaking about his Ascension.
• 48:04
  And so remember all these Supernatural events are just
• 48:06
  saying, this is the Son of God. This is the Son of God.
• 48:09
  This is the Son of God. It's just shouting.
• 48:12
  The fact that he is in fact God That's the simple explanation.
• 48:17
  We can spend a whole bible study on that alone, but I hope that
• 48:19
  makes sense. We stablished that Jesus Christ
• 48:22
  is God's only begotten son, meaning that he holds a unique
• 48:26
  one-of-a-kind relationship with the father since he eternally
• 48:29
  existed and had fellowship with the father, unlike any other,
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  but does the Son of God mean, more than that.
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  Does the term Son of God, especially in the gospels mean
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  more than the fact that Jesus amongst all the other sons of
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  God had a unique relationship with the father.
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  Yes, it does. When Jesus referred to himself
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  as the son of God. Remember that title was used for
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  rulers that title was used for Adam that title was used for
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  those who walk righteously with God.
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  So how do we explain that title being given to Mere creatures
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  and the offense? That came from that title as it
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  struck the Pharisees, you guys probably know what versus we're
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  going to go to in a moment now, John 5.
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  Let's go to John 5. John 5 is rich in understanding
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  the sonship of Christ, and let's just go there so that we can
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  chew on this for a moment verse 17 of John chapter 5, But Jesus
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  answered them. My father is working until now
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  and I am working now. Look what John comments here.
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  This is this was why the Jews were seeking all the more to
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  kill him because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was
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  even calling God his own father making himself equal with God.
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  Now it begs the question again what is the big deal if that
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  title has been referred to? Regarding other people for Jesus
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  to say, son of God and them to be so offended by it.
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  Now let's go to the same book but chapter 19 and see how this
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  is enhanced even more John chapter, 19, 6 and 7. so, when
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  it comes to Jesus trial, Verse 6 says, when the chief priests and
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  the officers saw him, they cried out, crucify him, crucify, him
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  pilate said to them take him yourselves and crucify him for.
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  I find no guilt in him, the Jews answered him, we have a law.
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  And according to that law, he ought to die because he has made
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  himself the son of God. I challenge us tonight to find a
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  law in the Old Testament. It says you should be put to
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  death for referring to yourself as a son of God.
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  It was a normal term. It spoke of those who
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  represented God who are in authority and had to make
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  judicial decisions. He's calling himself, Son of God
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  and we have a law that says that he needs to be put to death
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  because of that. There is no such law in the Old
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  Testament. unless of course, when Jesus was declaring himself
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  to be the son of God, their minds realize that he was making
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  himself equal with God being of the same essence of God.
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  And so, the only law that they can go to that with demand him
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  to be. Put to death is Leviticus 24:16.
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  Leviticus 24:16 says, something about blasphemy against the name
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  of the Lord, and will read it, and we'll see why their behavior
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  makes sense and the association that they're making between
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  Jesus declaration. And their reaction.
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  Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to
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  death. All the congregation shall Stone
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  him. Isn't that funny?
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  Every time you remember those moments in John, where he says
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  that he is God, I and the father are one with the they do as a
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  reaction. And want to Stone him.
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  In light of this, he's calling himself equal with God, he's
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  elevating himself to godhood. He's claiming to be divine,
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  let's kill him. And after failing and failing
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  and failing. They eventually partnered with
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  the Romans to get him crucified instead and they appeal to this,
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  And now this is important because we have John commenting
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  that they were reacting to this because Jesus was calling
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  himself, God we have the Pharisees assuming and accusing
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  that Jesus Christ was claiming to be God.
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  This is Jesus himself. Understand himself to be God,
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  that he declared that from his own lips.
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  There's anybody knows scripture verse before we go to, before we
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  go there. Before we go there, let's
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  establish this. Let's establish this.
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  Okay, that the New Testament audience the Jewish people.
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  Mainly we can all agree on this. I hope understood That Jesus
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  Christ, referring himself or being identified as the Son of
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  God, meant that he was equal with God, in essence in nature
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  and Divinity, do we all agree with that?
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  We argue that, right? So this is good.
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  If you're having a conversation with somebody and you bring up
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  that point you point these two these verses say, would you
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  agree that the people understood rightfully so that this idea of
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  Son of God meant that Jesus was in essence?
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  The same as God, they say, yeah. But Jesus never said it, maybe
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  he did. Yes.
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  Well, in the Book of John, you have, John the Baptist, who
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  during the bathroom scene, you can see, you know, like he like
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  before when the saying in 32 said, I saw the Spirit
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  descending from heaven like a dove, any remained, upon them.
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  And then 34 saying and I've seen and testified that this is the
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  Son of God, this is John the Baptist testifying right, okay.
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  So we have John the Baptist, the Forerunner testify and we have
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  John commenting and giving commentary we have the Pharisees
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  accusing. Where's Jesus.
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  How about affirmation we take that from God?
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  The Father. Oh God, the Father Who?
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  Well, Peter saying that, he's the son of God.
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  Okay. Say Flesh and Blood.
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  That's a good one as well. That is a good one.
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  Yes. That's a powerful one.
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  In fact, put that one in the records.
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  Absolutely, yes. Go ahead.
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  Mike. Yeah, last chapter the Bible.
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  Okay. Yeah, Revelation is the go-to
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  book. If you want to prove the deity
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  of Christ, absolutely there is there is that as well?
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  Yes, Jesus himself said, I'll come by the spirit.
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  David said, in Psalm 110, the Lord said to my Lord, yeah,
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  that's another one, right? He he placed himself in that
• 54:48
  prophetic, Psalm that he was, in fact.
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  At God, though he was a descendant of David.
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  Absolutely, here's the one I'm thinking about.
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  For me, when I read this verse light bulb went off.
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  And I thought to myself just memorize that reference and
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  bring it. Bring it before.
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  Anybody is a go to verse Matthew. 26, Matthew 26.
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  Verse 63 to 64 Matthew, 26, 63 to 64.
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  This is when Jesus was Being interrogated, essentially, and
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  in verse 63, look what he says this is so powerful.
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  Oh, this is so rich, but Jesus remained silent and the hype
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  reset them. I adjure you by the Living.
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  God, tell us. If you are the Christ, the son
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  of God, Jesus said to him, you have said, so there it is.
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  As plain as it could be, tell us.
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  And what did he have? In mind.
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  He had in mind, not that you're like, other sons of God, tell
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  us. If you're the Son of God, the
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  one who is equal with God are you saying that?
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  Are you saying, have you been saying that this whole time and
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  just goes, you have said so. You have said so it's right
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  there. It's plane.
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  It's so obvious. It's so clear.
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  And now we're making a transition, our Bible study
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  because Jesus adds another layer to his nature.
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  What does he say then the high priest were other before that.
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  But I tell you, from now on, you will see, not the son of God.
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  Son of Man. He could have got going with the
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  idea of being a Son of God but now he throws in this title that
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  we've been discussing or mentioned in the beginning.
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  Rather, son of man seated at the right hand of power and coming
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  on the Clouds Of Heaven. now if this was in a big deal, if this
• 56:31
  was him identify himself like any other sons of God or son of
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  man, meant that he was just a mere human, which it does have
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  that idea, especially in the Book of Ezekiel Why would this
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  high priest do this? Then the high priest tore, his
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  robes and said, he had uttered blasphemy?
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  What further witness do we need? And I would say the same thing
• 56:50
  to anybody that would attack the deity of Christ.
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  What further witness do, you need?
• 56:54
  We have a written plane. Jesus said you have said, so
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  what else do you need? You have now heard his blasphemy
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  now. Son of man for Jesus to say, son
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  of man, that title that phrase that description can refer to
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  someone who is of human origin. If you've ever read the book of
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  Ezekiel, you see that God continually refers to the
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  prophet, as son of man. Son of man, son of man, son of
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  man. And I'm sure many people know
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  here, word, Jesus was going with this statement.
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  What Jesus had in mind and what the Pharisees had in mind.
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  When he says I am The son of men.
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  Yes, why would the Bible tell? Tell the people to Stone
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  someone, if they claim to be equal to God, if we know that
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  Jesus will be, proclaiming that he is equal to God.
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  Well, they didn't believe he was God, so he was saying that, and
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  they didn't want to believe it, so they wanted to kill him
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  instead, because they thought he was obviously not who he claimed
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  to be at the Bible doesn't actually, it doesn't actually
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  say kill those that. Say that they are God.
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  Right? Right.
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  I hear what you're saying but what they were trying to do was
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  they were saying that this was Blasphemous for a mere human to
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  equate himself. To God is blasphemy.
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  And so they Associated this claim of him, being the Son of
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  God or God being his father on the same level as blaspheming,
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  the name of the Lord, for many reasons to bring the name of the
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  Lord down to whatever reason is involved with that statement,
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  but they equated it to blasphemy and they wanted to kill him for
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  it. So they appeal to Leviticus
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  24:16 and they denied, the obvious claim that Christ was
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  trying To make yes. Now believe he was referring to
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  the Book of Daniel. That's it.
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  Daniel chapter 7 when he said the son of, man, this is a key.
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  Foundational understanding. What the son of man means in
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  light of Jesus, use of it. Hey, we're closing here.
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  And Daniel 7:13-14. The vision that the prophet has
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  is the very Vision that Jesus gleans from to make himself
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  known as more than just a mere man.
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  This is what Daniel says. In verse 13, I saw in the night
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  visions and behold with the clouds of heaven with the Clouds
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  Of Heaven. Jesus said that there came one
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  like a son of man. Now what Daniel saw was a Divine
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  being, as we're going to find out who looked like and had the
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  form of a human. That's why he's saying that one.
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  Like a son of man one like of human origin.
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  I'm seeing a man but we're Going to find out that this son of
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  man, one like a son of man is beyond just a man.
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  And he came to the Ancient of Days now who's the Ancient of
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  Days? The father.
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  So right here we have two distinct persons.
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  Now go to verse 9 and let's realize that this son of man and
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  this Ancient of Days are more equal than we think.
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  As I looked how many Thrones replaced Thrones were placed,
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  not one thrown plural, Thrones were placed and the Ancient of
• 1:00:00
  Days took his seat, his clothing was white as snow and the hair.
• 1:00:04
  Of his head like pure wool. Does that sound familiar?
• 1:00:08
  I think I've read that somewhere Revelations chapter one like
• 1:00:12
  father, like son, his throne was fiery flames, it's Wheels, were
• 1:00:17
  burning flyer. The point that we have to make
• 1:00:19
  here is that there are Thrones and there's already one being
• 1:00:22
  who took his seat and in verse 13, in comes one like a son of
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  man. And what he's about to do, take
• 1:00:29
  his seat on his throne. I saw in the night visions and
• 1:00:32
  behold with the Clouds Of Heaven that came one like a son of man
• 1:00:35
  and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented.
• 1:00:37
  Rented before him. Now we're going to realize that
• 1:00:40
  this person is more than just a man.
• 1:00:43
  Because look what subscribe to him.
• 1:00:44
  Look what's granted to him and to him was given dominion and
• 1:00:49
  glory and a kingdom now, okay? That was given to David and some
• 1:00:54
  sense that was given to Kings that represented God and through
• 1:00:57
  the nation of Israel. But I'll go Stephen that that
• 1:00:59
  all peoples Nations and languages should serve him.
• 1:01:03
  That word serve is very significant.
• 1:01:06
  It's more than just obeying his commands.
• 1:01:08
  And in fact, the notes worship His Dominion is an everlasting
• 1:01:11
  Dominion. That's important.
• 1:01:12
  It's Snot, a temporary Kingdom. Its Everlasting.
• 1:01:16
  We shall not pass away and his kingdom one, that shall not be
• 1:01:19
  destroyed. Now we can go to Daniel chapter
• 1:01:22
  2 and show how this Kingdom. Who is being ushered in by Jesus
• 1:01:28
  Christ, is in fact pointing to his deity, we won't do that
• 1:01:32
  tonight. We can go through the rest of
• 1:01:33
  the day of the prove it, but we won't just, let's focus on this.
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  Who is this? Son of?
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  Man, that has an everlasting Dominion.
• 1:01:39
  Who is the son of man were all people, no matter their
• 1:01:41
  ethnicity, their culture. Their language will come and
• 1:01:43
  serve him. Jesus says, I'm Batman.
• 1:01:47
  Very specifically Jesus says, you will see me coming down the
• 1:01:51
  on the clouds from Heaven. Go back to verse 13.
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  If you could please, Sarah see what he says here.
• 1:01:56
  I saw in the night visions and behold with the Clouds Of
• 1:01:59
  Heaven, that's an important phrase.
• 1:02:01
  Don't just don't just see this beautiful site realize, the
• 1:02:05
  theological significance of clouds of Heaven.
• 1:02:08
  Why is clouds of Heaven important can anybody guess why?
• 1:02:11
  Clouds of Heaven is important? Because looking Muslim has a
• 1:02:14
  time, I just came up to met God on the mountain.
• 1:02:17
  That's when that's when he's able to interact with him.
• 1:02:21
  Okay. So you're pointing back to that
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  and I think there's you're very close to understanding how this
• 1:02:25
  relates to God, how this relates to God.
• 1:02:28
  Is this is that one Clouds Of Heaven speaks of heavenly origin
• 1:02:31
  but to this idea of clouds of heaven and activity associated,
• 1:02:35
  with it is an element that is solely and uniquely described
• 1:02:42
  and appointed to you. Way. now, we're going to see the
• 1:02:47
  Trinity again, so, clouds of heaven with the Clouds Of Heaven
• 1:02:50
  that Visual. It is solely, if you read your
• 1:02:55
  Old Testament, very carefully, solely granted to the Lord
• 1:02:59
  capital L ORD, Isaiah 19. 1 can go to Isaiah, 19, 1, and we're
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  closing here in a moment. Isaiah 19, 1.
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  In Oracle concerning Egypt behold, the Lord is riding who's
• 1:03:14
  writing the Lord Yahweh? The deny Divine name of God.
• 1:03:18
  The Lord is riding on a swift. Cloud and comes to Egypt, and
• 1:03:24
  the idols of Egypt will tremble at his presence and the Heart of
• 1:03:27
  the Egyptians will melt within them.
• 1:03:29
  So, this idea of God, coming in swiftly, on a cloud in Act of
• 1:03:34
  judgment in an act of judgment, he's coming on.
• 1:03:36
  A cloud is ascribed to Yahweh. We see the same thing in Psalms
• 1:03:42
  104 1, 2 3, Psalms 104 1 2 3. So we see that Yahweh is riding
• 1:03:48
  on a swift. Cloud and comes to Egypt, bless
• 1:03:51
  the Lord, O My Soul, O Lord my God, you are very great.
• 1:03:55
  You are clothed with Splendor and Majesty, covering yourself
• 1:03:59
  with light as with a garment stretching out the heavens like
• 1:04:02
  a tenth verse 3. He lays the beams of his
• 1:04:05
  Chambers on the waters. He makes the clouds his
• 1:04:07
  chariots, his cheery, he rides on the wings of the Wind.
• 1:04:13
  We go to Nahum. We'd have to turn in their him,
• 1:04:14
  says how the clouds are like the dust of his feet.
• 1:04:18
  And so, we have these verses that show how these clouds and
• 1:04:22
  God being associated with them. Mainly in the looks like as an
• 1:04:25
  act of judgment coming to rule coming to intervene in a
• 1:04:30
  specific moment is granted solely to Yahweh but not just
• 1:04:34
  Yahweh. Because when you go to Daniel 7,
• 1:04:35
  it's given to the son of man. Not just to this one.
• 1:04:37
  Like a son of man by Jesus. I'm coming down with a Clouds Of
• 1:04:40
  Heaven. Here's our final verse.
• 1:04:42
  Before we worship this, God Revelation 1:7.
• 1:04:45
  Just to put the final nail in the coffin.
• 1:04:51
  Behold he is coming with the clouds.
• 1:04:54
  And every eye will see him even those who pierced him and all
• 1:04:58
  the tribes of the earth will wail on account of him even so,
• 1:05:01
  amen. He's coming back on the clouds
• 1:05:06
  and when he said that the high priest knew exactly what he
• 1:05:08
  meant his mind's racing, all the way to Daniel chapter 7 ripped,
• 1:05:12
  his robe. And said, let's get rid of him.
• 1:05:18
  So we established and conclusion that this idea of God, being the
• 1:05:22
  Son of God means that he is uniquely related to God as the
• 1:05:27
  Eternal son and also claiming to be equal with God in essence and
• 1:05:33
  nature based on the reactions of those who heard him say such a
• 1:05:36
  thing, the son of man does not only speak about his human
• 1:05:40
  nature, though, it can describe that, but more significantly, it
• 1:05:43
  describes Daniel chapter 7. The deification.
• 1:05:47
  The OT, the Divinity of this man like figure, that was really God
• 1:05:52
  who became flesh who is flesh, who is coming back on the clouds
• 1:05:58
  and every eye will see him even those who pierced him.
• 1:06:02
  I think about this and this isn't part of the Bible said but
• 1:06:05
  just this versus come to mind. Right before the Bible study
• 1:06:08
  about the love that the father has for the son.
• 1:06:13
  How it's a unique love how to special love because it was
• 1:06:16
  eternal was before all creation. We become the objects of his
• 1:06:20
  love through adoption as we respond to the gospel.
• 1:06:24
  But do you ever wonder what the intensity of that?
• 1:06:26
  Love is for you and me. John 17:24, please.
• 1:06:33
  John 17:20 we've already established that there is a
• 1:06:35
  unique relationship that Jesus has with the father because it
• 1:06:39
  was eternal before eternity past.
• 1:06:41
  And now here, are you and I coming into relationship with
• 1:06:44
  the father and look what Jesus says in his prayer.
• 1:06:46
  Father, I desire that they also whom you have, given me may be
• 1:06:50
  with me where I am to see my glory, the verse before that,
• 1:06:52
  but we can read this. You have give me because you
• 1:06:54
  loved me before the foundation of the world, i in them and you
• 1:06:58
  in me that they may become perfectly one so that the world
• 1:07:00
  may know that you sent me and love them.
• 1:07:03
  Even as you love me. Let's read that very slowly, I
• 1:07:10
  and them. And you and me that they may
• 1:07:14
  become perfectly one. So that the world may know that
• 1:07:21
  you sent me and in sending me, what are you making a statement
• 1:07:25
  of God? What statement is god?
• 1:07:27
  Making by sending his son and loved them even as you love me.
• 1:07:34
  Having a bad day. I get that theologically but I
• 1:07:40
  need to feel it in my heart. What?
• 1:07:43
  I get the theological but I need that to be the source of my
• 1:07:47
  strength. Lord, I need to realize that So
• 1:07:52
  when I don't feel loved, I have the love of the Father.
• 1:07:56
  The same way he loves the Sun. Wow, he was eternally the son.
• 1:08:04
  I'm adopted by grace. but the intensity of his love for the
• 1:08:08
  Eternal son is the same intensity of love for me an
• 1:08:12
  enemy and rebel of God, I was brought in because the sun came
• 1:08:20
  show me your God and tell me if he's as beautiful as this.
• 1:08:26
  because you will find no other, I guarantee you that Making your
• 1:08:31
  prayer to say. Lord, let me really feel that.
• 1:08:34
  Let me really know that. And you know why you're going to
• 1:08:36
  go to heaven, and I'm going to go to heaven, many reasons, but
• 1:08:38
  verse 24, we went there ahead, but let's just read it again.
• 1:08:41
  Father. Oh, I desire.
• 1:08:44
  This is Christ. Did I have for you and me?
• 1:08:47
  I desire. That they also whom you have,
• 1:08:48
  given me may be with me where I am now listen to this.
• 1:08:52
  What did Jesus say? Or what's the commentary when
• 1:08:54
  Jesus appointed the 12 apostles? Mark chapter 3, says that he
• 1:08:58
  appointed Twelve Apostles that they may be with him and that
• 1:09:03
  they may preach in his name. Don't flip the order.
• 1:09:07
  It's not that they made preached in his name and be with me.
• 1:09:09
  Their main reason why Jesus appointed the 12 was primarily
• 1:09:13
  to be in fellowship with them. And from that place of
• 1:09:16
  Fellowship, now go preach my name.
• 1:09:19
  Realize my love realize how much I care for you realize the depth
• 1:09:24
  of My Sacrifice, you realize that it's nothing that what you
• 1:09:28
  do or how you perform that earns my love.
• 1:09:30
  I want you to be with me. I point you to be with me now go
• 1:09:33
  preach. The best preachers understand
• 1:09:37
  the love of God. The best preachers are those who
• 1:09:39
  know fellowship with God, those who are most effective in their
• 1:09:42
  evangelism. Those are most effective in the
• 1:09:44
  service of God. Have put this priority.
• 1:09:46
  First OU wants to be with me. Before he wants me to do
• 1:09:51
  something for him. I desire that they may be where
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  I am but not just to be with me what to see my glory.
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  To see my glory that you have given me because you loved me
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  before the foundation of the world.
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  We've been studying the person of Jesus Christ and I hope that
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  you and I have come to the conclusion that he's glorious.
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  These wonderful that he's Majestic that he's holy and
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  Sanctified amongst all the things.
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  But there's a glory that we have yet to see him.
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  There is a Brilliance of Christ that awaits for you and I to
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  Marvel at what proof second Thessalonians.
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  Please second Thessalonians, chapter 1 7 to 10 and let's just
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  hear the final faith of those who reject the gospel, and those
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  who embrace the gospel, and to Grant relief to you, who are
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  afflicted as well to us. When the Lord Jesus is revealed
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  from heaven with his mighty angels, we talked about that in
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  flaming fire, so he's not coming down an acute cloud.
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  Inflicting Vengeance on those who do not know God.
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  And on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus, they
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  will suffer the punishment of Eternal destruction away from
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  the presence of the Lord. And from the glory of his mind,
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  that is the final fate of those who have said no to, Jesus
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  Christ who have rejected God who don't want to know, God who
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  don't want to embrace his grace. That's the final fate, but
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  what's the fate of you? And I who have embraced him and
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  loved him and surrender to him the next verse when he comes on
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  that day to be glorified in, Saints.
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  Look at this and to be marveled at among all who have believed
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  you want to know what's going to happen when we go with him.
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  We're just going to Marvel at him.
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  We're just going to look at him. We're going to be stunned by
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  what we're going to see how long are we going to be stunned for a
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  thousand years? Oh yeah and then another
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  thousand years oh yeah another 10,000 years oh yeah add a
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  million years to that and we haven't even reached we having
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  to scratch the surface of how much we're going to Marvel at
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  him who have believed. So Christ in that prayer says
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  those who have given me mord. Father, I want them to Marvel at
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  me. I wanted to be with me so that
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  they can behold my glory. And that's why you can say what
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  the psalmist said in Psalm 73 25.
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  Whom have I in heaven, but you, Jesus, if you're not in heaven,
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  I don't want to go to heaven. There are a lot of people that
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  want having with Jesus in there. But I want to go to heaven
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  because I want to Marvel at him. I want to Behold Him.
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  I just want to look at him and my prayer.
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  I pray as yours as well. Lord, I feel the veil.
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  I feel the limitation of My Flesh.
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  I feel the limitation of my mind.
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  I feel the limitation of even understand this.
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  I need your Holy Spirit to illuminate.
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  God, give me as much of your glory.
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  As I can on this side of Heaven. Before I see the fullness of it.
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  I don't want to waste my life, just waiting for that day.
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  I Want Your Glory. Now as much as I can handle.
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  Fill my cup to the brim. Lord speak to my heart.
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  As much as you can reveal yourself and Lord when your
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  glory shines, that all the lights of the world them out.
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  So you can receive my devotion to adoration until my final
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  breath. Let's pray.
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  Lori just come into your presence.
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  And we bask in the Revelation that he your son Jesus is, in
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  fact, the son of God. is in fact the son of man, Lord, your word
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  is still true. We feel the weight of its
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  conviction. We sense the supernatural in it.
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  We realize that this is not an ordinary text. but from cover to
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  cover, It confirms the reality of Who You Are.
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  And it confirms what you have done.
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  And it promises, what will come. and Lord despite this
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  technologically advanced age and despite all of our knowledge and
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  creasing and all of the busyness and all of the things that
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  seduce us We realize in this moment that one day, you're
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  going to come on the clouds. And you're going to have
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  dominion and Reign Over all these things forever and ever.
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  And Lord we don't want anybody in this room to be on that side
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  where you will flick Vengeance on those who do not know God and
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  have not obeyed, the gospel of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
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  Well, we pray that every person by your grace and by your spirit
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  even now is he's here. To convict any heart.
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  That is not made that decision so that they can be on the side
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  in which they can await the moment where they will Marvel at
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  your glory forever and ever and ever.
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  And Lord we pray now, even as we sing to you a you would just
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  give us a glimpse of your glory. that Lord, we would Worship you
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  in light of the glory that is revealed in the Bible.
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  But oh God, for the sake of our own hearts.
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  Remove the veil. Lord thin it out.
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  We want to see you. We want to behold you.
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  And let the light of the gospel of Christ.
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  Let the light that shines forth from the face of Jesus.
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  Blind us from everything else. Captivate our hearts again.
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  Bring us in again, Lord. Help us realize that the father
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  loves us. as much as he loves his son, I can't comprehend it.
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  I don't deserve it. It doesn't make sense.
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  But it's true. And that's our motivation at the
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  sin against you. That's our motivation.
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  Not to live our lives for ourselves.
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  That's our motivation to say. Oh God. if you can love me with
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  such intensity, Help me love you with greater intensity.
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  Yes. Lord tonight we worship you in
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  song in Jesus name. Amen.
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  Yes. Lord tonight we worship you in
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  song in Jesus name. Amen.