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9-28-26 Hour 2 Rally House Football Monday · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: To Rally House Football Monday. Rally House shop every team
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  Speaker 1: We are joined as we are every Monday recapping the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos game for the weekend by Ryan Harris. Ryan, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, welcome. Second of all, how?
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  Speaker 2: How?
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  Speaker 3: Well, always great to be with you, legends.
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  Speaker 4: And how is your defense? The Broncos' defense held the
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  Speaker 4: Rams to four straight field goals, including when the Rams
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  Speaker 4: got the ball on the 36-yard line.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: You cannot play better. And oh, by the way, Hufanga's
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  Speaker 4: interception made a huge difference. So this defense is good
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  Speaker 4: enough to win you a championship. And don't make me
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  Speaker 4: get a ring for people who say, well, how long
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  Speaker 4: can you rely on your defense to bail you out?
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  Speaker 4: I got over 200 diamonds. That says 27 weeks, boys.
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  Speaker 1: You're so right.
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  Speaker 5: And it's contradictory, though, Ryan, because if you look at
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  Speaker 5: the final numbers, What a field day that Matt Stafford
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  Speaker 5: had through the air. I mean, the guy nearly throws
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  Speaker 5: for 400 yards. Pat Sertan looked like a human. Riley
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  Speaker 5: Moss gave up some big ones, big chunks. And yet,
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  Speaker 5: you start your whole thing by saying defense won the game.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 5: Both things can be true.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, any one of those touchdowns happen instead
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  Speaker 3: of a field goal.
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  Speaker 4: You're literally in overtime. Any two of those touchdowns. And
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  Speaker 4: then you lose the game. So the biggest thing is
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  Speaker 4: that I see though, is we're in an era of
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  Speaker 4: arrogance now, right? We are three games in and not
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  Speaker 4: a single game has started fast, not on the road,
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  Speaker 4: not at home. So whatever's happening is not, it's wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Do the exact opposite. Davis Webb, you come in here
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  Speaker 4: and you start watching film. You think about the plays
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  Speaker 4: you like, throw those ones away and then go to
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  Speaker 4: the ones that you think that they're going to stop.
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  Speaker 4: that you shouldn't run because whatever you think they're going
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  Speaker 4: to not see and not understand that's coming, they know
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  Speaker 4: what's coming for the first half. And here, guys, is
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  Speaker 4: another step where this entire offense can grow. You have
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  Speaker 4: to be able to adjust in drive or drive to drive.
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  Speaker 4: You cannot wait until halftime.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan, I keep saying this, and I have been saying it.
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  Speaker 2: It can't last. It just can't last.
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  Speaker 1: They can't keep.
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  Speaker 2: Doing this over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Yet they do.
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  Speaker 2: All the stats would tell you that it's not possible
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  Speaker 2: to keep doing this, yet we see it time and
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  Speaker 2: time again, and great players make dumb plays to allow
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  Speaker 2: you to do this, and then you take advantage of this.
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  Speaker 2: How long can it last, Ryan?
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  Speaker 1: You're a pro.
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  Speaker 2: You've been in these situations a million times. This is perpetual,
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  Speaker 2: so it seems.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you've only got now three games under
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  Speaker 3: your belt. So it's only working.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you look at last year, too. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: look at last year, too.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're looking at this year, right, you have,
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  Speaker 4: it's only working 66% of the time. Because when you
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  Speaker 4: went against a great team, it didn't work, did it?
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  Speaker 4: The comeback did not work, did it? By the way,
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs are looking mighty, mighty good right now.
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  Speaker 3: So to me.
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  Speaker 4: This is a situation where, you know, I think players
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  Speaker 4: have to take more pride about their work. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I took a tremendous amount of pride about, hey, I
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  Speaker 4: want to work so hard. I don't want to have
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  Speaker 4: a penalty for a false start or a procedure penalty
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  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, right? I'm going to attack those
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  Speaker 4: details even harder. And that's where this team needs to
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  Speaker 4: get to because it's just not sharp offensively for the
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  Speaker 4: first half. And defensively, they got to get hit in
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  Speaker 4: the mouth first. And we all love the movie Rocky
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  Speaker 4: and all that, but we don't feel good about where
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  Speaker 4: Rocky's at right now, do we? He took a lot
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  Speaker 4: of hits to the head that he did need to take.
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  Speaker 1: on that subject, you know, it's curious to me. You
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  Speaker 1: look at the game that Bo Nix plays and, What's
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  Speaker 1: funny is if nobody was told there's a different play
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  Speaker 1: caller this year, I don't think anyone would notice. It
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  Speaker 1: looks the exact same. So it begs the question, does
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  Speaker 1: this slow start, great finish offense have anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with play calling, or is it more about personnel alone?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it is, I think, the informal conversations that happen
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  Speaker 4: outside of the field, right? Hey, Brett, you're my offensive coordinator. Look, Brett,
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  Speaker 4: I've trust you completely, right? And what you want to do,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, on third down, I want duo, no polar.
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  Speaker 4: I want to check to the, I mean, like if
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  Speaker 4: I start telling you 17 things that I want in
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  Speaker 4: the package at a certain point, you're not getting a
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  Speaker 4: whole lot of leeway.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what that process is.
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  Speaker 4: But I think whatever has happened with Davis Webb and
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  Speaker 4: play calling The best thing you can say that we've
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  Speaker 4: all seen that's been demonstrated is that Sean Payton is
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  Speaker 4: going to give Davis Webb time to develop. And he's
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  Speaker 4: going to give him his insight and allow him to
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  Speaker 4: call the plays. And that's something that is a consistency
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  Speaker 4: piece for Bo Nix. He doesn't want to hear two
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  Speaker 4: different voices chiming in during the game. So I really
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  Speaker 4: love how Sean Payton's brought along Davis Webb and looking
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  Speaker 4: at the team that they went against last night in
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  Speaker 4: the Rams. and they won the game, and you needed
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  Speaker 4: your defense. But I also think by Davis Webb calling
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  Speaker 4: the plays, you get that timeout in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 4: that Coach Payton took, and that's huge. I think his
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  Speaker 4: head's out of the playbook enough to where he's saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: let's give our defense just an extra couple seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Here to ensure this game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Ryan, I want to ask you a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more to distinguish between plays and play calling, play execution
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  Speaker 5: and play calling, because we're giving a lot of heat
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  Speaker 5: to the coaches for how they call plays early. However,
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  Speaker 5: I want to take the first play of the game.
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  Speaker 5: We've all known that the Broncos want to get the
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  Speaker 5: run game going. First play of the game, they line
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  Speaker 5: up Waddle in the backfield. And I'm sure they worked
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  Speaker 5: on this play all week. They said, okay, we're going
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  Speaker 5: to hit them with this, and it's going to open up,
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  Speaker 5: and we're going to get J.K. Dobbins a good 10
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  Speaker 5: yards on the first play of the game. So Dobbins
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  Speaker 5: is giving the ball. He's running left. The reason the
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  Speaker 5: play was blown up, I just looked at it twice,
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  Speaker 5: Corlin Sutton missed a block. He missed a block. The
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  Speaker 5: DB cut inside him and made a tackle for a
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  Speaker 5: two-yard loss. So how much of this is play call?
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  Speaker 5: How much of this is play execution early?
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  Speaker 3: It's 50-50.
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  Speaker 4: And Vic, I do want to celebrate you saying distinguished.
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  Speaker 4: You're learning something from your son there at law school.
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you what. If your starting play is
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  Speaker 4: to say, let's get someone who doesn't carry the ball
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  Speaker 4: from the backfield to depend on somebody who doesn't block
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  Speaker 4: as a primary responsibility, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Versus give me two tight ends. Let Cortland give a runoff.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care what. If you're running the ball, get
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  Speaker 4: them away from each other. Split the defense. That's the play.
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  Speaker 3: So it's personnel.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to make somebody who doesn't major in
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  Speaker 4: kick and tail on the first play of the game
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  Speaker 4: to be in that position. So that is play calling. Now,
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  Speaker 4: when you're in the fourth quarter and you are in
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  Speaker 4: a got-to-have-it comeback and you dial up a play and
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  Speaker 4: you're all pro left tackle, who I love very, very much,
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden wanders and took us into the backfield,
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  Speaker 4: that's a problem that personnel can't fix.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you make such a valid point there
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  Speaker 5: because I think coaches sometimes, they run into this hey,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to fool the opposition. We're going to trick them.
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  Speaker 5: We've got mind games. Football at its core is body
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  Speaker 5: on body, man. I agree. So you want to see
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  Speaker 5: more three tight end, two tight end personnel early? Is
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  Speaker 5: that what you're asking for?
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  Speaker 3: I want to see us run the ball on third
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  Speaker 3: and one first.
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  Speaker 1: And not go spread on third and one?
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  Speaker 3: If you're calling anything other than run, yes. It doesn't matter. Spread,
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  Speaker 3: you know, wing tee.
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  Speaker 4: Are we running the ball on third and one and
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  Speaker 4: letting them know that we're running down your face mask?
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  Speaker 4: Or are we saying we're going to trick you on
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  Speaker 4: third and one? Go deliver the baby, okay? Go deliver
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  Speaker 4: the baby, number one. But number two, you got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to grow through those moments and dominate. And
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  Speaker 4: that's something where this team just is, They have to
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  Speaker 4: wait to get upset and look at, just look no
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  Speaker 4: further than the Rams. Did anybody, you see how Kyron
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  Speaker 4: Williams would just run the ball and then guess what
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  Speaker 4: they do?
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  Speaker 3: They'd run it again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, one of the best offensive coordinators I ever
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  Speaker 4: played with said, we're going to keep calling it until
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  Speaker 4: they can stop it twice, not once, twice. And that's
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  Speaker 4: the kind of mentality they got to get into.
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  Speaker 2: Did you run the wing tee in high school? Was that?
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  Speaker 3: While you brought that up? We had Joe Maurer at quarterback, homie.
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  Speaker 3: We were throwing that thing, but it wasn't an O-line.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, Ryan, you've played with a lot of quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: in your life. And there are some guys I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you thought, this guy's kind of a panicky plug. And
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  Speaker 2: there are some guys who are just ballers, right? Just ballers, right? Well,
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  Speaker 2: how in the hell do we have the panicky plug
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  Speaker 2: and the baller in the same dude and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden it comes out? The panicky plug goes away
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  Speaker 2: and the baller slinging the pig and just in a
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  Speaker 2: flow and confident. How does a guy transform mid-game all
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  Speaker 2: the time?
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  Speaker 5: The hell is a panicky plug?
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  Speaker 2: Just a guy, miss, everything just fits and stops, can't
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  Speaker 2: get anything going.
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  Speaker 5: Never heard of that in my life.
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  Speaker 2: But in the second half, Ryan, in the second half,
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix is, I mean, frigging amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, would you rather have the opposite?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'd rather have it this way.
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  Speaker 4: Would you rather have him slanging it to start with
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  Speaker 4: and then get nervous when it, so think about the contrast.
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  Speaker 4: But the other thing too, and this is just the
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  Speaker 4: outside looking in, and I'm a huge fan of Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 4: I've been a Bo Lever, first pew, okay? he gets
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  Speaker 4: too excited at the start of games. And it's completely understandable.
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  Speaker 4: You are one of the best quarterbacks with the best
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  Speaker 4: arm in the NFL to you and to the rest
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  Speaker 4: of your teammates and coaching staff. You were an ankle
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  Speaker 4: injury away from winning the Super Bowl, which you can't
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  Speaker 4: think about now.
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  Speaker 3: I got you. He's not afraid. He's not afraid of
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  Speaker 3: what the score is.
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  Speaker 4: He's not afraid of what you do to him in
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  Speaker 4: the first half but he will be there in the
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  Speaker 4: fourth quarter to deliver and that's something where I'd rather
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  Speaker 4: have a quarterback who's ready for those moments when they
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  Speaker 4: come than to have a confident quarterback like Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 4: who does very very well quarters one through four just
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  Speaker 4: missed it in the fourth quarter so Bo Nix delivers
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  Speaker 4: when it's time But just the outside looking in, he's
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  Speaker 4: too excited. I mean, you saw he came out of
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  Speaker 4: the tunnel for when they called his name.
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  Speaker 3: He started sprinting.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, man, Tom Brady never sprinted outside of
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  Speaker 4: that tunnel. You take a leisurely jog and let your
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  Speaker 4: muscles warm up.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Harris with us. Ryan, can you explain to the
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  Speaker 1: people all your years playing offensive line? I want to
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  Speaker 1: highlight somebody in particular. I think that game flipped a
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  Speaker 1: lot for the Rams in the second half because Zach
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  Speaker 1: Allen was an absolute monster. And when you collapse the
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  Speaker 1: pocket from the middle, just explain to people what that does,
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  Speaker 1: especially for an MVP quarterback like Stafford, didn't look the
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  Speaker 1: same in the second half, and he's a big reason
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, first, it forces the quarterback to slightly bend their
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  Speaker 4: knees more in the back of the pocket because they're
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  Speaker 4: ready to move, right? They don't even set up the
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  Speaker 4: same way. Next, any time an interior lineman beats a guard, center,
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  Speaker 4: or tackle, all three of those, guard, center, and tackle,
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  Speaker 4: are talking to each other after that play. Hey man,
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  Speaker 4: Brett Kane just got me right there. That's my bad.
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  Speaker 3: Can you give me a little more hip?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, and then by the way, because you do that, Brett,
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  Speaker 4: Vic gives up a sack to Mosier. And so the
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  Speaker 4: next play, Vic goes, hey guys, Mosier got me.
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  Speaker 3: Can you give me a little more hip?
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  Speaker 4: So that's, it changes the conversation in the huddle for
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  Speaker 4: the players who just got beat. And Matthew Stafford then
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  Speaker 4: is always ready to move and does not feel confident
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  Speaker 4: stepping up. And that's something where with the edge pressure,
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  Speaker 4: I think Brandon Jones had the best game of his
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  Speaker 4: Broncos career.
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  Speaker 3: He was fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: So working together like that, that's how you get going
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  Speaker 4: and how you get started.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, you know what I didn't notice last night, Ryan Harris?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't notice Aaron Donald. And I thought the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: did a good job neutralizing him.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do much.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see Quinn Miners hog tossing him on that
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  Speaker 1: one play?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he threw him right over the tea kettle. Quinn Miners,
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  Speaker 4: I love it, boys. Because what he's saying is, I
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  Speaker 4: don't care. How many championships you won?
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  Speaker 3: Get your ass out of here.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Come on, dog. There's nothing better than that.
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  Speaker 4: And Quinn Miners, I got to be down there the
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  Speaker 4: last seven minutes of the fourth quarter down there. He
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  Speaker 4: was just, he was leading that offensive line. He really
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  Speaker 4: became a leader in that game. He's covered the belly.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the power. But I think Ben Powers has
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  Speaker 4: to play a little bit better.
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  Speaker 3: He's a good player, but he's got to be consistent. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you're right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Quinn Miners just led the way, and that
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  Speaker 4: offensive line really quieted down Aaron Donald, who has not
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  Speaker 4: been the same in picking his spots in September here,
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  Speaker 4: but picking his spots, coming in on third down and
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: One quick thing before we let you go, Ryan. I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe I'm asking this, but I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: have to. Should we be worried about the Raiders?
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  Speaker 3: We never worry about the rate. I was going to
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  Speaker 3: say there's three.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like what I do. I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: was a quality win in new Orleans yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I really do.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of scary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans is a way better, way better team than
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  Speaker 4: people think. And Oh, by the way, it's one of
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  Speaker 4: the toughest environments to play in. Look, it's a Kubiak.
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  Speaker 4: So shame on you for doubting the success at the Raiders.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I understand you're here in Denver, but Kubiak's
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  Speaker 4: no ball.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And you got Kirk cousins out here trying to beat
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  Speaker 4: father time and his opponent on Sunday. So It's really
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  Speaker 4: something special. I'm happy for Clint Kubiak. I've gotten to
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  Speaker 4: know him, of course, over the years from Houston all
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  Speaker 4: the way back here to Denver. But it's not going
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  Speaker 4: to matter against the Broncos. Broncos are going to go
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  Speaker 4: 2-0 against them. And, gosh, are the.
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  Speaker 3: Chargers okay, guys? I mean, here they are. They were
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be top of the AFC West.
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  Speaker 1: Done.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, boys.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, you're the absolute best. Always appreciate the time, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk next week.
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  Speaker 3: Great to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Harris joins us every single Monday following the Broncos weekend. Again,
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  Speaker 1: Rally House. Shop every team in town back after this.
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  Speaker 3: There's a goal.
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  Speaker 1: Waddle in motion. Five in the pattern. Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: Where is it?
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  Speaker 3: Touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Pat Bryant.
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  Speaker 3: Broncos back in it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Rally House Football Monday. Can I give you
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  Speaker 1: guys a stat that was just shown on ESPN by
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  Speaker 1: Bo Nix? He's been in the league for two years
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  Speaker 1: and change, right? A few games, including playoffs. How many
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter comebacks was that for Bo Nix?
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  Speaker 5: He's got the most in the league. He's got the
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  Speaker 5: most in the league.
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  Speaker 1: How many? How many since entering the league? Take a guess.
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  Speaker 5: That is number nine.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to say it's 12. It's his 11th.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Now, here's why that stat is interesting. It's the third
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: most by starting quarterback in the first three seasons since 1950. Now,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: he's still got 14 games to go here, plus the
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: playoffs if they're in it, right? Do you know who
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: the leader is in that stat?
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen?
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: John Elway. John Elway had 12 through three years.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: You're kidding.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Him and Derek Carr.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you the difference between John Elway's Broncos
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: and these Broncos. John Elway's Broncos weren't as good as
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: these Broncos.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: The early ones.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: The early ones. The first two seasons, I'm saying. I mean,
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: because he went to the Super Bowl in 86, for
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: crying out loud. But his first couple seasons, they barely
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: squeaked into the playoffs. I think they finished, was it 9-7?
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: He got benched, came back. By the way, I saw
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: John last night. When he watches these games and he's
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: looking at Bo, do you think he sees a lot
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: of that? Do you think he remembers his first couple seasons?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure he does. On that subject, Vic,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: let me ask you guys a question. And just give
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: me Rams or Broncos, okay?
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Because this is what struck me last night in watching
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the game. Quarterback. Who'd you rather have, Rams or Broncos?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Rams.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Vic?
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Well, now or for the future? I mean, this guy.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Just right now. Stop with the specifics and answer the question.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: The reigning MVP.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I'll take Stafford.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Running backs.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyron Williams, please.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Receivers.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: Devontae Adams put up 179 yards. Offensive line?
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I think I'll take the Broncos.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Defensive line.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: I'd say the Broncos.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Well, not if you have miles.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Secondary, Broncos, linebackers, who knows? But the point is,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the game and I'm like, gosh, it does
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: kind of feel like the Rams have the edge at
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: more places. It's why when we were going into the game,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I said, I think the Rams are the best team
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: in the league. You want to know why? Because I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: think the Broncos are one of the best teams in
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the league. But sometimes the team's just got a lot
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: of talent. And to the Broncos credit, like you go
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: down to a team with that. You go down to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a team that has Kyron Williams and Matthew Stafford, Devontae Adams,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and really five different tight ends that they trust. And
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: you're down 16 to not only come back and tie
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the game. But to put sort of a vice grip
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: on it and just be like, I'm going to hold
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you right here, like Nolan Ryan did to Robin Ventura,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm just going to beat, touchdown, two-point conversion, touchdown,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: two-point conversion until I'm back in this game. It's remarkable resilience.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: It's a flip of the switch like we haven't seen, well,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: we have so many times over. I want to ask
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you guys to think of it this way. We look
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: at this Broncos game, this win, from a Broncos perspective, clearly.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: What a comeback. If you're the Rams and you're flying
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: home late last night, how many of those guys are
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: sitting there going, how in the hell did we just
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: lose that game?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Probably all of them, Vic.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Let me explain a little bit more.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Can I just ask one thing real quick? Where did
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you watch the game, Vic?
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: That's another story. I was in a suite last night.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: full of Rams personnel.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And how was the, I don't know how long you
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: were there, obviously not to the very.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Very end of the game. No, I left in the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: fourth quarter because I had to get ready for a
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: postgame show, but most of the game.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: What was it like 16-0 at half in that room
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: as opposed to midway through the fourth quarter in that room?
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: First of all, let me preface this by saying I
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: told Terry last night we were going to the game,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: we're about to leave, and she comes down wearing all
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: this Broncos garb. I said, nah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Get back up in there and change that up. Can't
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: do it. And you guys know why.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: You're with Rams brass.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Okay. I mean, so we get up in there and
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: she's looking at me every time the Broncos score and
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: come back and she's like, can I say anything? I
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Probably not.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Keep on the down low.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: But you should have seen how loud that place got
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: that specific spot. When the Rams had that touchdown, that
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: out and up, and I left right after that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: They thought at that point the game was won again.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: How many times? I still think if you're the Rams
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: and you're Sean McVay, how the hell? You're looking at
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: the stats and saying, how did we lose this game?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Let me get to that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: First downs, Rams. Passing first downs, Rams. Fourth down efficiency, Rams.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Total plays, Rams. By 22.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: 22. The Rams put up like 500 yards of offense
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: in that game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Total drives, yards per play, passing, rushing. But this is
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: where you start to see things turn. And by the way,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: time of possession? Nine minutes more than the Broncos, if
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you're the Rams. But the Rams had 13 penalties for
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: 91 yards.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: That's big.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: That is a number that we talked about postgame. Normally
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: the Broncos, that's what kills the Broncos, the penalties.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: And the Broncos were only five for 38. This is
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: where the defense comes into play, Vic. Red zone efficiency.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: The Rams were one for four. Broncos, three for three.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And turnovers. You had two if you're the Rams. The
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Broncos only had one, and there is the difference. So
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: you can put up all these fancy numbers, almost 500
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: yards of total offense, and Stafford can throw 55 times, blah, blah, blah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: over 100 yards rushing, blah, blah, blah. But you make
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: these little tiny mistakes, and this Broncos team will make
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you pay. And they're not even little tiny ones. But,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you get called for this or
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you have a brain fade on that. The Broncos will
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: make you pay when they do their comeback thing.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I thought of this every time he trotted onto the field.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I thought of you.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: A thicker kicker doesn't miss.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: He was great.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Why would you think of me?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Andy Reid in a Rams uniform in the punt passing
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: kick competition, as my friend Paul sent me, reminded me
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: of Andy Reid.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: He doesn't miss.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: That dude is down the middle every time. And the
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: fact that Thicker Kicker had to kick it four times,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: if you're the Rams and you're flying home after that
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: game wondering why we lost that game, that's why.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Because you couldn't finish in the red zone, and you
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: had a chance to finish the game early.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's why. There is no question, early in that game,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: when they're settling for field goal after field goal after
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: field goal for three straight possessions.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: You could have been buried.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You... you could have had an insurmountable deficit to come
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: back from, even by Broncos standards. And I don't know
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: what that number is, to be honest. I don't know
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: if that's 24 points. I don't know if it's 39.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much a team needs to be
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: leading the Broncos to give them absolutely no shot. But
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the Rams could have done it in the second quarter.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Just because you got to, let's say they convert every
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: single time.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Hey, Vic, we hear that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I was given the video of last night, the
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: near fracas. So I'm going to send it to Jesse
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: right now so you guys can evaluate it. This is
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: the first time I've seen it. Sorry about that. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: just got lost. Post-game, we almost had a fight. Well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: we did have a fight that took place on our
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: post-game show. Right behind you. That did not include us.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I'll send it to Jesse right now.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Continue, Moshe.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Let's say they convert on three of them, or even
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: all four opportunities in the first half.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Talk about the Rams.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: So at the very worst, it's 28-0, but maybe 24-0, right?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: If they convert on three and they have a field goal.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: But the Rams are still going to get points, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: they're still going to get some points in the second half.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So even though you scored 30, that probably doesn't hold up.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's amazing to me because, again, why did the Titanic sink?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Let me just bring this up.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Poor planning.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't because it hit an iceberg. You say
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: this all the time. It's because it hit iceberg. It's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: because that old lady got greedy.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that frigging diamond, she had it the whole time. Oh, God.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Whenever somebody brings this up, it's the first thing I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: think of, and it's amazing. She had a husband and children,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and she just thought about DiCaprio for two days that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: she had relations with.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: On a boat.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Hey, Brett, it's easy to do.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So, no, that didn't sink. I'm on my deathbed. I'm
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: just like, remember that chick I hooked up with that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: one night in my college dorm room?
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Dude, that whole movie's about a lady who for 50
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: years had. A one night stand.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: More than that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Grandkids. She had a life with all these wonderful kids
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: that she helped produce.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: 84 years, bro.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: And the whole movie's about her and her fling. With
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: that street rat.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Right. So the point is this, is that. It was
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the design, then it was the construction, then.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It was the material. It was all these things that lead.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Up to it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: It's the opposite for the Broncos when they win these games.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It's like all these things have to tick off, tick off,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: tick off, and yet they all come together to make
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: it happen, including excellent, excellent.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Play by the quarterback. By the way, I'm going to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: sell this once and for all. I hate when you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: reference this. At Brett Cain Radio on Twitter, did the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Titanic sink because it hit an iceberg? I mean, quite literally,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that's why it sank.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, but if all these, everything had to line up
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in a row from the time they sketched out the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: designs all the way through the construction of it, the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: materials used, everything involved in it, the slag inside the rivets,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: all these things contributed to it. So when you finally
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: did hit an iceberg, the whole thing unravels.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, your mom could have hit an iceberg
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and she wouldn't sink. What?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That was terrible.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: That was terrible.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: By the way, justice for Billy Zane. He got cheated on.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: They make him out to be the bad guy in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that movie. How dare they? Well, he did jump in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a boat with a fake kid. Well, she cheated on him.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I have a child!
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Do you guys have a couple moments just to talk
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: about the college football weekend?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: No. I don't know that we really do.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: Just like three minutes.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I have a child!
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: First off, see you. What do you do with Juju now?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: He's pulled from the game. Yeah, I don't know. He's young.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I know this.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Afterwards, Prime said, don't give up on him. Well, I didn't.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: You did. You guys pulled him.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Here's my problem, and we don't have the audio ready
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to go, but just to paraphrase, when Deion's at the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: podium after the game, and he gives you the line of,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know why we keep losing. If you remember,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: so he says that after the game, and we're better
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: than this. It seems as though we're better than our opponents,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: but the score does not dictate that. We got to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: find out why. You're kind of teeing yourself up for,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: if you think you're better than your opponents and you're
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: not winning, well, then coaching is a big part of that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're better than Baylor. I mean,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Baylor was favored by nine and a half. But that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: is a reflection. If that's the way that you're thinking,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: then there's something in the coaching that's not going correctly.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: If you say out loud, we're better than them, but
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: we lost, and that happens repeatedly, well, then what is it?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Because you've had different quarterbacks. You've had different offensive lines.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: You've had different coordinators. You've had different this and that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I just think that's sort of telling on yourself a bit.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Now, do you want to get to a school that's
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: only been around for 15 years? You want any of that?
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: A school that put 59 on CSU. Not a school
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: that's been around 15 years.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: A program. A program.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: A school's been around. UTSA hung 50. Was it 59
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: or 58? 59.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: 59.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: 59. Could have been more than 60. Did you see
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: the scene, speaking of coaches yelling at each other, did
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: you see Jim Moore get into it with his defensive coordinator? Oh, yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Holy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Whoa.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Well, in his defense.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, he gave up 59.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: 59 points. And 35 by half. Here's what's funny.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I just remember you guys told me this, and you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: were right to think this way, but I remember watching
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: this during, or thinking this during the game. I'm watching
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: UTSA put up touchdown after touchdown after touchdown the first half.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Remember when I asked the question, why are they favored
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: by 14 points? Which, by the way, Vegas nailed both.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: They lost by 14, and the spread was 9.5 with Baylor.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You lost by 10. Great point. But I remember thinking this.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I said, why are they favored by 14 points? And
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you guys said, and I think rightly so, well, CSU
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't have Haas Haney. That didn't matter at all. Turns out,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it's the least thing that mattered in that game. Because
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Haas Haney, last I checked, doesn't play safety. It was
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the weirdest thing in the world. It's like, you're scoring
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: at will, but you can't get a stop?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: So I went to the equipment drive on Saturday morning.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And it's 14-0.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Can you explain what that is to people that when
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: you say equipment drive, I guarantee most people don't know
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: what that is.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: The yearly equipment drive that used and knew to benefit
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a precious child, Cronky Sports Shirties and Ball Arena.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: We do it every year.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: They give sports equipment drive.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: I just wanted you to tell people what it was.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: You had no idea what it was.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: I know exactly what it is, but I guarantee Brett's
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: listening to you going, what are you talking about?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I knew what it was.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I've been there before.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I went down there and it was 14-0
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: when I got out of the car. Then I got
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to go do an event with Lauren Gardner at a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: big client.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: And then what else did you do on Saturday? Give
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: us the rest of your schedule, please.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you eat?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what else?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Where did you park? Where'd you park your car at?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So the point is that I come back and it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: 35 to 14. I go, what in the holy hell
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: just happened?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: What?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I wasn't watching? What happened?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And I know your brother was all over because he
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: kept texting me nonstop.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: He was freaking. Well, yeah. Here's the other thing, just
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: quick things while we're on this subject.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: This is funny stuff, man.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Funny.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Iowa beating Michigan was delicious. That last second touchdown toe tap.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: It was delicious.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: USC getting romped at home was superb.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I gave the listeners homework. I can't remember if I
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: told you guys or not. Did I give you guys
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the homework to watch Mississippi State and Kamario Taylor?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: You did.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Did you? Yes, and he was awesome.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: I did not watch it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: How fun is that guy? That guy is probably Vic.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: He might have the best arm in college football along
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: with wheels.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Did you hear Saban on college game day talking about him?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that? He's unbelievable, man.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: He is, but he goes, so they asked him, what
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: do you think about Kamario Taylor?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He said, well, if I was still coaching.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I'll be trying to figure out a way to convince
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: him to get in the portal, which I think that's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: kind of sniping right there, right? But he's just being
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: as honest as he can possibly be. Vic Camario-Taylor, God,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I hope he stays with the Bulldogs.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I really do. He's only a sophomore. They won 31-24
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: over Missouri. He is going to get paid. Hey, guys.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: If he wants to transfer, dude, he's going to get
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: paid because this guy is awesome, Vic.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Thoughts on that late hit or that targeting hit by
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: USC on Oregon's quarterback. Now, the hit itself, it happens
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: a lot. The hit doesn't bother me as much as
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: the reaction to the hit. Did you see what he
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: did after?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Dancing around, smiling.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I didn't like that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: At the same time, Vic, if I'm a defender.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And the closing speed for both guys.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Is really- Sliding is dangerous, man. No, no, no, no.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's not the act of sliding. It's sliding half a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: yard away from a guy.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: You should expect to be hit.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: And when you're going down like that, the only force
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that's exerted is pushing you backward, which is going to
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: lead to your head slamming against a turf.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I don't disagree.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: The hit was driving me nuts when people were like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: what a dirty hit. I'm like, what's the guy supposed
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to do? No, it wasn't about the hit.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: It was about his reaction to the hit.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And the stuff on the sideline, I didn't like that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: at all either. It was all part of that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: By the way, Rayola came in and looked like the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: guy that he should have been in Nebraska. Let me
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: tell you this right now.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: As much as people were miffed by the reaction of
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that defensive player for USC, I equally was as pissed.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: when I heard Dan Lanning in the postgame, that guy
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: drives me nuts. The way that he speaks, I'm like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: your team looks like trash this year, by the way.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Didn't they lose to Oklahoma State?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yes!
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: And they should have.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: No room to talk. This close to losing to Boise State,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: remember the first week of the season?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shut your mouth.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Why are you talking as if you're like a top
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: two team in the country? That drives me bonkers. Oh,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I can't stand that guy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Last thing on that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: The guy's– the closing speed is so fast, and by
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the time he actually slides, the distance between the two
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: is very short.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And, again, if you're a defensive player there, Vic, I
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: don't know– there's no way– once you're committed and once
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: he starts to slide, there's no way– you cannot change
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: your body angle. You can't.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Final thoughts on this segment. Give me one word, each
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: of you. What is CU football right now? One word. Bad.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Junk.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I think that's a bit extreme there.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Junk.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Junk. But what is it?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Meh.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: No, I just think they're bad.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Meh.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Just quickly. Here's one thing I've noticed. I hesitated to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: bring this up because I'm like, I don't know how
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: much this really matters, but I do think it does.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: To their credit, they've been better at running the football,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: stopping the run, all that stuff for the first few
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: weeks of the season. You know what I noticed when
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: CU's on the field? And I can't get this out
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: of my head. They look thin. You know what I mean?
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Skinny.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Like, If you just had a tight shot of CU's
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: offense and I was flipping through the channels, there's part
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of me to be like, is that a high school team?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: You know when they do those high school games on
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: ESPN2 and stuff like that? They look skinny. I don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: mean that to be insulting. It's just something that hits
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: me when I watch. They just don't look like they're
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: built properly. They don't look like adult college football players.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it. Am I wrong?
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: You're correct. My word would be non-factor. Does the hyphen count? Sure. Non-factor.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: That's fine. You got it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: All out.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: A non-factor. Okay.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It is a Rally House Football Monday. Oh, by the way, next. Oh,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: by the way, stories around sports in the world we
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: feel like you should be aware of on this Rally
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: House Football Monday. Let's continue in college football. So a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: big game this weekend was the.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Texas and Tennessee game. Fantastic game. Texas pulls it out 20-17. Now,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: they had a defensive player who got a penalty, personal
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: foul after a sack, because of celebration. Now, I am
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: very pro-celebration. I'm very pro-this celebration. But I can understand why.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: He got penalized for this. So Jesse said, he's got
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the wrong thing.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: A little different than cracking a beer, right?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: A little different than cracking a beer. Jared Allen had
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the lasso thing that he would do. Um, who was it?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't somebody have a big hip thrust that they got
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: personal fouls for something like that. So just let me
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: know when you have just, you can just rip it
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: off the DM too, if you want to. That is,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: that is not what I called for. Um, All right,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give Jesse a moment. Jesse's just pushing.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: He's having a day.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Jesse's panicking over here.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: He's having a day.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I thought you sent me some Dion sound. I'm sorry.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I just sent you. You can play it off your
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: DM on the computer if you want to. Anyway, this
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: guy got a personal foul because he sacked the quarterback,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: got up, and pretended to pee on him.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: What the hell, man?
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Did he wake up and say, I got something?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Vic, if you.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Haven't seen it, simulated the unzip, simulated the flop, and
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: then started like a five-year-old with a spray hose.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: At what point did he tell his teammates, hey, check
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: this out? And did the teammates say, yeah, that's a
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: great idea? But the way it's described by the official.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I've never heard a person call the way that the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: ref called it. Now, if Jesse's got it, we can
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: play it. If not, okay, says one second. It's just
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: an amazing thing that you're watching a football game and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: somebody got a 15-yard penalty for this. Go ahead, Jesse.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: You hit a first down before.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: That's sportsmanlike conduct.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Defense, number one, simulating using the restroom. Never in your
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: life have you heard personal fouls simulating using the restroom.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of kind of losing your mind, did you
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: guys see what happened between South Carolina and Alabama over
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the weekend?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Pretty wild.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Dylan Stewart is a terrific defensive player for the South
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Carolina Gamecocks. But he lost his mind. Not only was
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: he refusing to be subbed out, got in fights and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: arguments with coaches throughout the game, at the end he decided,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just going to punch a Crimson
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Tide guy right in the head, and he punched Tide
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and Josh Ford right in the head. And then they said,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you're rejected, and he freaked out on that. He has
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: now been suspended by Shane Beamer indefinitely. Indefinitely.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: He might get kicked off the team, and this is
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: one of the better players in the country.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the time that Shannon Sharp got Derek
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Thomas to lose his mind?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: That's what happened. This guy lost.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: His mind in this college football game, and they couldn't
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: get him off the field, and they couldn't get him
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to the locker room.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: They couldn't do anything. It was an absolute nightmare.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: It's official, oh, by the way, the Rockies season mercifully
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: is over. How many people had that final record?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I took the over before the season, baby.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: It was over 100.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Give me some credit.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: 58-104 is the final tally from the 2026 Rockies season. However,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: one piece of good news. T.J. Rumfield finishes the season
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: with the best on-base percentage in the National League.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: And why do we love T.J. Rumfield?
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Because he's young.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Because he gets on base. It's a money ball quote.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I love T.J., Hey, mark my words. This is a guarantee.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: They will not lose 100 games next year.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: So only the Angels, the other team that lose 100,
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: they lost 100 exactly. The Rockies had them by four games,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: 58 and 104.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Look, I'd be lying to you. We all know that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: they're better than they were last year, but I'd be
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: lying to you if I didn't say the end of
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: that season really put a damper on some of my
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: arrow pointing up stuff, they were miserable to close out
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the year. They very easily could have gotten to, I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: don't know, 67, 68 wins, and they just blew it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Blew it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Just kind of gave up on the season. Oh, by
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the way, did you see what happened in the Jaguars
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: game yesterday?
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: What, that they beat the snot out of the Patriots and.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Had Drake May crying? And Drake May has fallen back
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: down to earth in a big way. I heard what
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: happened afterwards. I heard what happened. Vrabel just calling out
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: his team.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I heard that variable one insane as well well number
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: one Travis Hunter had his first career in reception okay
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: that's number one number two did you see Trevor Lawrence
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: when they're up 28 to six wide open to the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: end zone runs and stops on the one yard line
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and kneels down late in the game did you see
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: that yeah there was still a lot of time left.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: He said, I don't know what I was doing.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I think I was trying to work some clock. He goes,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I probably just should have run it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Into the end zone because Vishal Tootin scored on the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: very next play. But people think that, like, maybe he had,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you know, some.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Ulterior motive to.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: There was nobody around him.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It was third and four.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: He ran like a little boot to the left, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: then he got to the one-yard line and kneeled down
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: instead of just taking it into the end zone. Twitter
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: conspiracy was all over the place.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, by the way, on that subject, you guys remember,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite introductory press conferences I've ever
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: heard for head coach, and there's been a few bangers
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: over the last few years. My favorite one, though, bar none,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: no doubt, has been Jerry Jones introducing Brian Schottenheimer as
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys head coach where he said, you guys said
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I don't take risks. This is the biggest risk I've
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: ever taken in my life. I must be a madman
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to trust this man on my team. So did you
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: see how the game ended between the Cowboys and the
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Ravens and how the Cowboys lost?
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: This is why I have maintained for years. Every NFL
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: organization needs to hire a 20-year-old who plays Madden to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: help them with clock management because these guys don't know
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. The Cowboys are down three with 20
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: seconds left. It's second and goal from the seven. They
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: are guaranteed a chip shot field goal to send this
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: game into overtime. They're trying to win. Run the play.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: It gets stuffed. There's now 14 seconds left on the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: clock to have one timeout. They burn it at 14 seconds.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Next play, incompletion. Now seven seconds left by the end
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: of the field goal. They then boot the ball out
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of bounds on the kickoff, which takes no time off
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the clock. Lamar Jackson, 27-yard pass. They're in field goal range.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: They win the game because you don't call a timeout
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: with 14 seconds left to start with. You wait until
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: it's about eight seconds. You run one more play. If
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you don't score a touchdown, you kick the field goal,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: end of quarter. Even if you call the timeout at
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: 14 seconds, you kick the ball to make sure they
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: need to field it in play and burn time off
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the clock. How are people this stupid? Like, I would
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: want to fire Schottenheimer on the spot for that stupidity.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Vicky booted it out of bounds. Like through the end zone.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Which not only, by the way, burns no time, it
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: gives them the ball five yards further. I just don't
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: get it. It's so stupid. Oh, my God.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: You know what? You can't even squib anymore, can you really?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: No, you have to hit it in the landing zone.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: If it doesn't hit beyond that, was it the 25
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: or 35?
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: If it doesn't hit inside of that.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's a penalty.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Stupid.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: It's stupid.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Hey, oh, by the way, already a massive injury over
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: the weekend. Miami gave Kansas City a bit of a
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: test early.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: At the end of the game, it wasn't, but early.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Devon A.J. now for the season, ACL.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I saw that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Brian Burns in New York, too. I know the Giants
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: are trying to hold things together without Jackson Dart this year.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It did not happen. Very quickly, oh, by the way.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, did you see Baker Mayfield's thumb
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: come off? Oh. Oh. Hey, Vic.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: No, what happened?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: You ever see a thumb go the wrong way?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: No, it looked like his thumb got ripped off of
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: his hand.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It was gross.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, just real quick, I'll file this
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: under the cute stories in Oh, By the Way. Berlander
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: takes the field for the last time over the weekend.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: He gets pulled, gets a standing ovation. It's his last
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: time ever stepping foot on the baseball field. You know
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: who pulled him off the field, Vic? You know who
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: took him off the mound? His daughter. They trotted him
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: or trotted her out there to go greet him at
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the mound to walk him off the field. It was
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: very cute. Berlander cried. Now the whole game stopped. Of course. Yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: he's a legend.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: You give that man his flowers. You give him his praise.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I completely agree. I thought it was a very, very
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: touching moment. And then here comes his wife with a
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: little babe with a younger sibling and all that. It
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: was good. It was cool.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Can baby Jamal Cale take me off the show today?
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: All right. Uh, that is, Oh, by the way, back
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: to the Broncos. How, how do they keep doing it?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: And should we care about how they keep doing it?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: The style in which they do it. We'll get to
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: it next.