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Mini Van, Big Impact · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey, this is another week of the
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  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. We're here to break down the most
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  Speaker 1: recent episode of Matt James this season. Ashley, there is
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  Speaker 1: an episode out there, uh that we recorded. Uh tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody where they can find it. So yesterday we dropped
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  Speaker 1: an episode that is exclusively about Race and the franchise. Um.
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  Speaker 1: We have Devon Franklin on and he's a media mogul.
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  Speaker 1: Um He's he's an inspirational speaker, and he does such
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic job of talking about race in this franchise
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  Speaker 1: and how far we need to go. He It was
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  Speaker 1: such a powerful moving episode. I think Ben and I
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  Speaker 1: got emotional at times. We really urge you to listen
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  Speaker 1: to it. It's you know, it was all based on
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  Speaker 1: the fact that there was that interview last week on
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  Speaker 1: Extra between Chris Harrison and Rachel Lindsay and um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we we want that conversation to keep continuing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Will's said this week. You know Wills from a couple
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  Speaker 1: of seasons ago. He said, I sincerely hope this isn't
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  Speaker 1: another black box with quotes around a moment where people
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  Speaker 1: speak up against racism because it's the topic of the day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see the retreat back into comfort
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  Speaker 1: after one day, after one post. I'm loving the energy
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing and all I ask is to keep it up.
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  Speaker 1: So we want to keep it up. We want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that this is something that we continue to
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  Speaker 1: talk about on this podcast. I reached out to a
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  Speaker 1: couple of the girls from this season to discuss the
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  Speaker 1: joint statement that they put out last week. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you guys saw, but all wow, there's like
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  Speaker 1: thirty something girls from this season and they put together
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  Speaker 1: a statement in response to the Rachel and Chris interview,
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  Speaker 1: and it read this, we are the women of Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Season twenty five women who identify as b I p
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  Speaker 1: o C were cast on this historic season that was
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  Speaker 1: meant to represent change. We're deeply disappointed and want to
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  Speaker 1: make it clear that we denounce any defense of racism.
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  Speaker 1: Any defense of racist behavior denies the lived in continued
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  Speaker 1: experiences of b I p o C individuals. If you
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  Speaker 1: guys don't know what b I p o C means,
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  Speaker 1: that means black Indigenous people of color. They continue to
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  Speaker 1: say these experiences are not to be exploited or tokenized.
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay continues to advocate with grace for individuals who
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  Speaker 1: identify as b I p o C within this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Just because she is speaking the loudest doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: she is alone. We stand with her, We hear her
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  Speaker 1: when we advocate for change alongside her. So I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do a little research as to how these girls
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  Speaker 1: got together and came up with this statement. So I
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  Speaker 1: reached out to a couple of them, and Chelsea responded,
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  Speaker 1: and she was She told me that I was able
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  Speaker 1: to use her words and and talk about what she
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  Speaker 1: said on our podcast. She said that the women who
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  Speaker 1: wrote this statement would like to remain anonymous, but in
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  Speaker 1: order to continue to lift B I p o C voices,
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  Speaker 1: please feel free to mention that it was written by
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  Speaker 1: six women of color. They spoke, worked on and wrote
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  Speaker 1: on a statement together. She said she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: speak for others, but she can say that last week
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  Speaker 1: she felt really disappointed and a little defeated. She said,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this season has felt like one step
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  Speaker 1: forward and two steps two steps back. If you guys
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  Speaker 1: did listen to the episode yesterday or the one that
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  Speaker 1: we recorded yesterday with Devon, we address the one step
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  Speaker 1: forward and two steps back that she mentioned. She continues
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  Speaker 1: to say that she specifically feels like this extra interview
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  Speaker 1: was too important not to speak up about. She said
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  Speaker 1: she didn't want people like Rachel Lindsay or people like
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Nolan to feel like they were alone or and
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  Speaker 1: that that they weren't supported. She said that we are
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  Speaker 1: allowed to, of course discuss that. She has told me
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  Speaker 1: this on the podcast. UM, so yeah, we're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: keep talking about it. We gotta keep talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: Um and hopefully we will grow and change in this
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  Speaker 1: franchise will be better because of it. You know. One
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  Speaker 1: of the things that Devon kind of hinted to and
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  Speaker 1: and talked about is like the power. It reminds me
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  Speaker 1: of that. Remember the old story that we used to
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  Speaker 1: hear about the starfish and the kid that walks down
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  Speaker 1: the beach throwing one starfish at a time in the ocean,
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  Speaker 1: and the conclusion of that is like, uh, if he
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  Speaker 1: gets questioned on that, and the kids responses like, well,
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  Speaker 1: at least I helped that one. Well, talking to Von
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  Speaker 1: reminded me that you know, yes we have a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but you know this takes up a very small amount
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  Speaker 1: of my time, and it takes up a very small
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  Speaker 1: amount of your time, and it takes up a lot,
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  Speaker 1: a very small amount of time of our listeners. That
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  Speaker 1: this conversation needs to continue, uh out far outside of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, into our communities and networks, into the people
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  Speaker 1: that we come in contact with, so that we can
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  Speaker 1: continue to help the one or be a part of
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  Speaker 1: the solution and not the problem. We can help and
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  Speaker 1: not hurt, which is something I've kind of coined this year,
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  Speaker 1: is my phrase. Um So yeah, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: when we look at this, maybe the conclusion to all
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  Speaker 1: this is we can't let the conversation stop here. We
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  Speaker 1: can't let this, as Wills said, like just be another
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  Speaker 1: moment where we we advocate and then we step back.
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  Speaker 1: It's hey, this is something that is it is not
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  Speaker 1: only needed, but it's also hurting people. And I hope
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  Speaker 1: to our listeners on the show, and I hope and
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  Speaker 1: I know for you personally, is uh, we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to live life hurting other people and we want to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of the solution. So uh, with that, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: let's take a break here. We are going to break
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  Speaker 1: down this week's episode, we are going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines. We're gonna do a normal podcast, but again
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  Speaker 1: we encourage you to go back and listen to our
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  Speaker 1: conversation with the von Franklin which was posted on Monday. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we got another week of The Bachelor. Now it feels
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  Speaker 1: like to me, actually, I'm gonna even hold my opinions
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  Speaker 1: on this episode, uh until we kind of intermixed them
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  Speaker 1: into the conversation. Uh. But we're obviously excited about this
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  Speaker 1: week for a couple of reasons. One of those reasons
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  Speaker 1: is because we have a cliffhanger and Heather Martin has
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  Speaker 1: walked into the brand new, very big, very beautiful Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: mansion and we have no clue how it's gonna play out.
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  Speaker 1: But this week we see it play out. We do
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't much different than what we predicted last week.
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  Speaker 1: She comes in, he says, Okay, give me a minute
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  Speaker 1: to think about this. He actually holds a lot um
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Brown's opinion, like it holds a lot of weight
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  Speaker 1: for him. The whole reason that he even said like
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  Speaker 1: hang around is because he needed to decide whether the
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  Speaker 1: opinion of such a close friend should kind of overweigh Um,
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  Speaker 1: how far he's come with some of these other girls,
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  Speaker 1: and and to make that disruption if he were to
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  Speaker 1: allow her to join this group so late in the game. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But ultimately he decides that he's just come too far
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  Speaker 1: with the other women, tells Heather that she you know,
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  Speaker 1: she can't stay. Um, but it was very of course
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  Speaker 1: the way he does it is so sweet. Um. He
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  Speaker 1: says that, you know, if we were in San Diego
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  Speaker 1: right now would be a different story, but that's not
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  Speaker 1: the case. And um, she goes home. But again, I
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  Speaker 1: think we see a bullying moment um just like the girls.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to be super warm and
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  Speaker 1: welcoming to a girl who's coming in during week six
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  Speaker 1: slash seven. You know, I understand how agitating that can be.
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  Speaker 1: But for Kit to say, bitch, what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you? I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: then there's other people who are saying like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear your tears. Um, what's her name again?
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  Speaker 1: Like there's just like a lot of just cattiness again,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like this girl is already in such
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  Speaker 1: a vulnerable position to make her feel like this on
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  Speaker 1: top of it was like, again disappointing to see, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe not shocking. Well, yeah, that was my bit when
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  Speaker 1: I was actually very surprised, especially with kind of I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it's kind of you know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: this we we I thought, I guess that after the
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks the bowling would stop. I was surprised
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  Speaker 1: at how mean they were to Heather, Like it was
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  Speaker 1: death fully mean. I don't think anybody's gonna argue that
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  Speaker 1: it was a very uncomfortable situation that they didn't know Heather,
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  Speaker 1: that they obviously didn't want her there, which I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't even disagree with, like, of course you don't
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  Speaker 1: want her there, but it was it was hostile um
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  Speaker 1: and she sat in that and obviously she did go home,
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  Speaker 1: which was I'm gonna say probably for the best for her,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think sticking around there would have been even worse.
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  Speaker 1: And and I was kind of sitting there actually expecting
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  Speaker 1: what was happened, which was Heather going home, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, please don't stay, not because I don't like Heather.
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  Speaker 1: She's been on the podcast, She's a sweet girl. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you'd make a match with mad or not.
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  Speaker 1: But it was like, please don't stay, because then that's
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  Speaker 1: the storyline that we here now for the next few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: And we're getting so far in this season that I
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  Speaker 1: am again and I'm harping on it every week. I
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  Speaker 1: want to see the love stories. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see the drama at this point. It's it's been way overplayed,
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  Speaker 1: it's way over used. Uh. And so how they did
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  Speaker 1: go home? Well, others went home as well. We walked
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  Speaker 1: then into a Rose ceremony, uh and uh. And some
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  Speaker 1: of our favorites go home. Well, Chelsea went home in
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  Speaker 1: Serena c went home again. Every single Rose ceremony for
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  Speaker 1: the past four or five weeks, I am mind blown
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  Speaker 1: by somebody who leaves, and this week it was Chelsea.
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  Speaker 1: I was d m ing her, as I said earlier
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  Speaker 1: in this podcast, um, and then and then I had
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  Speaker 1: to d m her and be like, wait, wait a second,
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  Speaker 1: you're eliminated in this episode at the top of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I did not see that coming at all. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: such strong moments from her during group dates over the
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  Speaker 1: past three weeks that I thought it was going to
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  Speaker 1: be Abigail leaving at that Rose ceremony. I love Abigail,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but just like a connection wise, it just
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  Speaker 1: seemed like she was falling off and Chelsea was gaining steam.
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  Speaker 1: But there's there she went, and I mean it makes
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  Speaker 1: sense that she would have left in this episode. We
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  Speaker 1: see so many people go home in this episode. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's truly chopped the cast in half. Um, But I
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  Speaker 1: think it was just interesting the way that she went
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  Speaker 1: um earlier on it's Uh. I would define this episode
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  Speaker 1: as the episode where uh, again a lot of our
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  Speaker 1: favorites exit, Like this was like a big gut punch
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to some of our favorites. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: the first row ceremony is the first example of that,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to get into Abigail and just a
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  Speaker 1: bit um, but we move on from the road ceremony
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  Speaker 1: to the first one on one day of this episode
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  Speaker 1: that's with Serena. Puh. The date card says can our
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  Speaker 1: love go deeper? Which can mean so many weird different things.
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  Speaker 1: And it was weird and it was different and it
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  Speaker 1: didn't mean some awkward things, yes it did. So they
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  Speaker 1: did tan tricky yoga in like basically sex positions. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have loved this date. They've done something like
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  Speaker 1: this before. I remember Chase and Jojo did it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's probably been another one. Um. Matt is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, really affectionate. He doesn't really care when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to p d A. And apparently we learned that
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  Speaker 1: Serena is not that way at all. She's wanting it
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  Speaker 1: to be over the entire time. She said she was
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  Speaker 1: beyond her comfort zone. Matt really says that, Well, Matt
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed the activity, um, but also really enjoys that
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  Speaker 1: Serena is so honest with how she didn't like it afterward.
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  Speaker 1: And to be honest, I was thinking, like at points
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  Speaker 1: during this date that they weren't super compatible. I really
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  Speaker 1: like Serena. I like her honesty, but I was thinking, like,
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  Speaker 1: are are there? Love language is going to be compatible
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  Speaker 1: if he's like all into this affection and sexuality and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not, I'm not like this, Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: feeling very uncomfortable. Did you find the same Yeah? I
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  Speaker 1: mean love language is funny because you you want to
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  Speaker 1: find somebody that is compatible, but you also can find
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  Speaker 1: that adventure and the incompatibility or you know, so maybe
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  Speaker 1: off the show. I think this is a big telling
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  Speaker 1: moment for the the experience on the show. When you're
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  Speaker 1: on the show, Uh, you don't have that time to
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  Speaker 1: it and watch a movie, or you don't have that
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  Speaker 1: time to be intimate in whatever way that you feel
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  Speaker 1: feel as fit without cameras around. But cameras are around,
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  Speaker 1: people are watching at all times. If that is something
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  Speaker 1: makes you uncomfortable, well, then the show is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: really hard for you. And so I actually then after
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  Speaker 1: the date was over, I was like, Okay, if Matt no,
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  Speaker 1: she's uncomfortable, realizes that she was, Uh, I'm gonna say awkward.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if she was awkward, but she was
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  Speaker 1: just like not feeling the moment, and yet still keeps
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  Speaker 1: her around, and there's something very like he's feeling very
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  Speaker 1: serious about her completely agree because it seems like once
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  Speaker 1: they hit that little disagreement, he wanted to just keep
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  Speaker 1: pushing forward. Yes, exactly. So he's like, hey, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: I I now see this, I understand it, and yes,
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  Speaker 1: this this is a little bit disheartening because it would
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  Speaker 1: have been a great day and we could have made
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  Speaker 1: out and like done all this stuff. But then he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I respect the situation. If I respect you enough and
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  Speaker 1: I like you enough to now still keep you around
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  Speaker 1: even though this was this was weird this, that's this
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  Speaker 1: that they didn't necessarily like flow and fit well. So
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  Speaker 1: what it tells me is she's somebody to watch out for.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he ends up with her at
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  Speaker 1: the end, but it's definitely now, like the very first
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  Speaker 1: as we get down in the final weeks here, the
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  Speaker 1: first telling uh connection outside of maybe Rachel that we're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is something very serious now maybe, but like, can
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  Speaker 1: I just say, I feel like maybe she's not all
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  Speaker 1: the way there with him, and I think we're seeing that,
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  Speaker 1: but the scene to the next episode with her family,
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of maybe doubting if she's one into him,
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like, if you are so into somebody,
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  Speaker 1: like you'd want to do that date even if it
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  Speaker 1: was in public. Yeah. I don't know. I feel weird
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  Speaker 1: about this. I've always felt weird about affection on television. Like,
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  Speaker 1: even though I was the Bachelor and it happened like
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  Speaker 1: there was not like you know, you can kiss, there's
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  Speaker 1: like boundaries there. But as soon as things started to
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  Speaker 1: get like superheated or like you know that moment felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was going beyond uh like PGT. That wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have been comfortable, and it definitely makes you feel like
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  Speaker 1: a different sort of way, like you know your grandma's
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  Speaker 1: watching this, you know your your family's watching this. You
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people are watching that, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're you know, it just made me feel weird. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But if we go on, she does get the rose,
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna be around and we get a new date
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  Speaker 1: card which Piper, Michelle, Rachel, Bree, Abigail are all on
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  Speaker 1: the card, which feels so weird to say because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these girls aren't here going in the next week.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I read this list and it's weird
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  Speaker 1: that this is, you know, the episode that we're breaking
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  Speaker 1: down because a lot of these girls do go home
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  Speaker 1: but just send you. Then gets the one on one,
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  Speaker 1: so we see that we know that after the show
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  Speaker 1: or after this date, the date card reads leve will
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  Speaker 1: always find a way. But I think there must have
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  Speaker 1: been something cut out because they go straight into the
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  Speaker 1: nighttime portion of the date. That's interesting. Yeah, that is
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing there with that date card meaning to go
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  Speaker 1: into the day, you know what I think? Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, and like, what is that like a scavenger hunt?
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  Speaker 1: Is it something like that just didn't work? Did whether
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  Speaker 1: or not that whether or not handle the well? But
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  Speaker 1: you're right. It is funny because that is a note
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  Speaker 1: that you're always good at this stuff. I watched it
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't in here like uh, the nighttime portion notes,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't even think about like the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the date never happened. Uh, that's Ashley good note. Once again,
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  Speaker 1: give Ashley, I can Eddie credit. She has dissected the
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  Speaker 1: production and she's realized that we only saw the nighttime portion. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the nighttime portion was full of some really important moments, right,
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  Speaker 1: like we we learned a lot, we saw a lot
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  Speaker 1: and uh. And Matt, I think, is really starting to
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  Speaker 1: identify who he's most into, and we see this on
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  Speaker 1: the nighttime portion. So our first serious conversation is with
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  Speaker 1: Bree and she breaks to him that she had to
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  Speaker 1: resign from her position at her work in order to
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  Speaker 1: be with him any further. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: of people when they go into the Bachelor, like their
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  Speaker 1: place of work gives them, you know, two weeks a
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  Speaker 1: month or whatever, it seems based on where she is
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  Speaker 1: in this she probably had to resign after a month,
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  Speaker 1: And could you imagine the amount of guilt he would
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  Speaker 1: have hearing that conversation, hearing her tell him that if
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  Speaker 1: she was on the chopping block now, like I think
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  Speaker 1: we all knew that she wasn't really on the chopping block,
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  Speaker 1: so we all had a sigh of relief, but still
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  Speaker 1: all the guilt. I would uh, I would say that,
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  Speaker 1: like I I wouldn't wish that upon any bachelor or
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  Speaker 1: bachelorette to have that conversation. Like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: Brie will look back on that. We could ask her
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: at some point, I'm sure we'll have on and say,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: do you ever regret that conversation? Because I think she's like, hey,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I needed to share him this. He's like the most
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: important person in my life right now, and he needs
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to know where I'm coming from. He needs to know
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: how serious I am about it. But it was like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it felt to me like Matt was like, oh no,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I like you, but like now I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: feel really weird because I like somebody else too, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: like now I feel much pressure. Here's okay, side note
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a little frustration, breeze awesome and like we're not seeing
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: enough of her. Like we saw the one on one
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: day weeks ago, we haven't really seen bree Tell me
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong since then, we don't know a lot
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: about Bree. Here we are, They're sitting down there having
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: this wonderful conversation and she is opening up to him.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: If it's appropriate or not, that's beside the point. They're
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: opening up to each other. They're having this very romantic conversation,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Bree, where have you been? And then
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not your fault. You've been around the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: whole time. I know, And I think it goes back
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to my brief conversation with Chelsea. She brings up two things.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: One that there are too many girls on this season.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: When you added up it is about thirty seven thirty
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: eight girls. That is crazy and it is too much
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: because you can't focus on the love stories enough. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: then secondly, she brings up the fact that it was
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: so bogged down by drama that so many of these
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: love stories were never told. And think about the amount
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of time we would have to get to know Matt
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and Breeze connection if we just eliminated a little bit
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of the Serena and Katie fight last week, the the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Victoria drama, all that stuff like that, it would have
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: made room to get to know Bree better. Yes, I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: agree with you. Actually it's a it's a weird thing.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Bree. She still has my
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: vote sticking to that. Well, uh, you know, we obviously
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: see the connection once again between Rachel Matt. Matt does.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Rachel does end up getting the rose from Matt, and um,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Abigail goes home and and Abigail goes home, which I'm
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: saying here, let's pause at this point because I'm on
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Abigail's team. I don't think she got a fair shot.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know why shouldn't get a fair shot. She
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: gets the first impression rose. There seems to be this
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: really magical connection. Where did it go wrong? I'm asking
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: myself this question, Like we never saw anything of Abigail again.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because she didn't like really speak to Mat again,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: but it's like, no, she had to have right, Like
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: they've had to have conversations leading up to this point.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But every week we're holding on saying Abigail's gotta get
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a rose, like I got get I gotta get the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: one on one. Abigail's gotta get the one on one,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and it never happens, and then she goes home in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: this fashion, and I feel like, as a fan, I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: didn't get enough Abigail, like we we just never got
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: enough of her as a human. And I was excited
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: for that because I really thought that was something special.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't everybody was saying that she was going to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: be going home because it just didn't have I didn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: want to believe it, and now, well I gotta believe it. Well,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: she definitely is a front runner, I think for Bachelorette,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: because she is one of the most endearing girls and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the one that we are crazy even to see more
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of that we never did. Matt's explanation as to what
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: happened to them was interesting. He said, I felt our
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: connection was so strong off the top that I let it,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: just like sit um and I let other relationships build
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: because I was so sure of what we had. But
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: then in doing that, those other relationships grew stronger. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it's just really interesting the way like he kind of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: put it on the back burner and then never it
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: never brought it off. That that back burner never never
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: did it. Maybe it's because he's right, like relationships did
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: progress past it, and he was kind of having tunnel
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: vision now for a few of these women in that
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Abigail didn't fit into that view that he thought his
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: life was going to shake out to be with. Maybe
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that is what happened. Maybe he knew he had someone
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: with Abigail, relationships progress past it, he couldn't see it
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: catching up. So she goes home. I'm sad about it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people will probably
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: be sad about it. But the positive is that maybe,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: just possibly she could be our next bachelor and who
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: she would have a fan in us. Well, Rachel does
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: get the rose from the date. Uh. Interesting moment during
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this date is that when Rachel gets the rose, it's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the first time this whole season that there is this
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: kind of overarching cloud of um defeat amongst the other
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: like the women on that date, Like you could just
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: see in the room that everybody's heart sank. Uh. You
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: could tell that something was about to happen because you
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: saw everybody's face, and everybody's face is either thinking, of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: course it's Rachel. He's obviously into Rachel, or it's just
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to be here next week, and now
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I have to wait till Rose ceremony again to figure
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that out, and like that's scary to me. But it
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: was a it's a heavy moment. It was one of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: those um grand moments to that highlights the couple where
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, you're getting basically rewarded. Now you're getting
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: your own alone time, you're getting this concert moment. This
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: is something that Jared brought up earlier that I think
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that since we're talking about Rachel, it's right to bring
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: him now. A lot of speculation has gone on this
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: week that like, the only reason that Chris would be
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: so defensive of Rachel Kay in that interview with Rachel
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Lindsay is because Rachel Kay wins this. Do you think
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if Rachel does win this? And this is just coming
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: from Jared and it sounds better coming from him, but
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: like he seemed to have an interesting argument should we
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: spoil the season? Like should the season be spoiled? Should
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: ABC do it and be like, this is Rachel, She's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: our winner, um, and we're going to address all the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: racial stuff going on right now between her because it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: just too odd to watch this season with the it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the was it called the elephant in the room. It's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: just like an elephant in the room, you know. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I don't that's hard. Yes, My my initial response is no.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And here's why. It is Matt's journey and the girl's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: journey to figure out. And so once that journey plays out, Uh,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: then uh we can kind of see it to conclusion. Right.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: So is it is this a moment that's different than
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: others where it's like if they did spoil it, I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: would be shocked. No, I wouldn't be shocked at all.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And I can't even say it would be the wrong
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: thing to do. It's just I have a feeling they're
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, um, Matt, this is this is your
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: story as the Bachelor, and we're gonna let this thing
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: finish out however along the way. Um, you know, I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: do think there's some things that the franchise needs to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: do and confront before the finale, But I don't think
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to be spoiling the end. I don't know
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: if that helps or hurts or solves anything at that moment. Well, Uh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: speaking of solving something, Kit doesn't feel like her relationship
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: with Matt is able to be solved, is able to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: work out, and we see that when Matt gets back
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to the house, he's kind of strolling around his incredible
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: path that they haven't living in and uh and Kit
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: shows up with her mind made, and it's made in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: one way. It's very weird to me because she is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: freaking out a couple hours earlier, sitting around that couch.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: She said, it is my face just tomato red right
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: now because she's like kind of just taking a back
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: or shocked that she's not going forward. Um, she just was.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: She just felt like she was very invested during that
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: group day in getting further along with Matt. And then
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: she shows up and says, I don't think I'm I'm there.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think I can feel confident in me being
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: your future wife. And you deserve somebody who feels confident
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in that now. And it's funny because she had earlier
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: said like, this is my plan of life. I'm not
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: going to have kids until I'm like I have a timeline.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: She went through that with him. He seemed down with it,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and then she was like, you know what, never minds
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're the guy for me anyway. Can
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I can I make an assumption a theory that's so
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: unwarranted and could could be completely false. Yes, please do kids.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Mom is a well known person. I wonder if any
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of this head to could do with kits saying I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's wise to have my mom on
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: this show next week. It would be a big deal
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: for her to give up five days of quarantine income
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: on television. Uh, And unless I'm a sold out on this,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it's just not something I want to do, Like, it's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: not something I want to put up. And then like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: that would make sense, Like it does make sense. Yeah,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I just wonder when I watched, I was like, you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: know what, I wonder if she's just saying, like, hey,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not completely sold out that I'm the one and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the one for me. And
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: so let's just call this good before the family comes in,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: because my family um is known and that's going to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: be a story in itself, and it's just not it's
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: not worth not worth doing right now with where we're
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: at in our relationship. Well, so Kit goes home. So
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: now at this point in this episode, we've had the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: people from the first Row ceremony, Uh that we love,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and we have Abigail, who is a figure who got
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the first impression rows and we have another popular figure
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on the show, kit all going home. At this point,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: when does it end? Well, it does end for a bit.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: People stop going home until the very end. And in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: between now and then we have just Sinya's one on one,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: which is interesting to me. And I'll tell you this,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't know his connection with Justina was strong. Um.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: In fact, I didn't think it was strong. And I'm
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised, quite frankly that he didn't keep Abigail around,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: uh and not have her on the group date, but
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have her on that one on one, just to really
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: get that time with her, to really get to know
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: her a little bit. Right. I think as a fandom
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: we would have felt a little bit more completed if
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Abigail was the one who got the one on one,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: because at least we'll be able to like, say, all right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: she had her time. They did not have it, um,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But now we know, and it just feels more like
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a conclusion for us. With just Na, I mean, it
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: seems like a good nice girl. We we liked her.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: In that argument with m J doesn't exactly pull on
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: our heart strings. I think as much as Abigail, we
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit less invested in her. And to me,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it was an even more obvious, oh, she's gonna get
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: eliminated at the end of this date type situation. I mean,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it's everybody's going home on this episode. It's wild, like
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you have a rose ceremony, you have Abigel going home,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you have kid going home, and then you have a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: one on one date and she goes home. Yeah. Um,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it was a surprise that just
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: send you went home to anyone at the end of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: this date, because I mean she said she was blindsided.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know how she was blindsided. Um. I mean
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it was written all over his face and we just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you know, as I know, it's different, you don't see
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it as clearly as the audience does when you're there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: But with the other girls that he had left, like
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you just knew Michelle was going to get a spot.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: And at that point we had Rachel with a rose,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: we had Um, we had Serena with a rose, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: so then we had two roses left, and it just
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was so obvious that it wasn't going to be going
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to just yeah. So um, just and he goes home.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: We have the final rose ceremony and is actually just
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: mentioned um Serena p Rachel who had roses going into
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the rose ceremony. Brie and Michelle get a rose. Piper
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: is then sent home at that rose ceremony. Uh. Matt
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is pretty upset about it. She feels, um, pretty tough.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I mean this is this is a hard breakup, I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: sure for them both. But now we move into hometowns
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and uh, and so we're gonna see these stories and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Ashley to kind of go into uh them what do
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: they call it when the show ends and before the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: next show, like scenes to the next episode. Yeah, it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: scenes from next episode. When we watched the scenes from
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the next episode, it feels like to me, the tone
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: that they're setting as for the viewers is some of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: these girls have a lot of questions if they're ready
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: for this or not. Like these girls families are pretty
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: much saying like, I don't see this working because I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: don't see you there yet. Like in terms of love. Yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like they always kind of like tee it
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: up like that that there's so much doubt we'll see
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you next week. Um, these girls, you know, are on
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the younger side, so I would see like the families
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: maybe being like are you sure? Are you sure? Um?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But you know what I was thinking earlier, super crazy
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: going into hometowns with Tatia season. First off, you like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: cut off the first four weeks, right, because those were
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Claires four weeks where we really didn't get to know
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: anything about Ivan, zach Um, Brendan, and Ben, Like we
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: didn't get to know anything about them in those four weeks.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: But going into hometowns, I felt like we knew them
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: very well and we're very excited to see where they
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: came from. And I just I don't feel the same way.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: These girls are lovely, they are seriously like I like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: them a lot. I don't think it's good thing for
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: It's not on them. It's about the way these storyless
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: storyline has evolved. Well, so prime example here Ashley, we're
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: fans of Michelle and it's the bloopers where all of
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a sudden we see this side of Michelle that we
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: haven't really been able to see because it has been shown.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: But it's like, this is terrific, Like the stuff that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: she's doing is hilarious. Can we please show this stuff?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So that we know this side of Michelle and not
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: just in the bloopers on the episode, so we can
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: start to go that's relatable, Like I remember doing thirty
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: push ups before my date so that I would look
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit better on Well, I get it, I've
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: seen it. I like it. I'm I'm encouraged by it
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: because I don't feel so weird by doing it. But
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen it until now, and that's that's a
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: little bit frustrating. We've said it every week though, Okay,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Ashley again next week's Hometowns, but we have to talk
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: about this week's episode and we have to rate it. So, uh,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you're rating of this week's episode A to F I
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: would say it was about an eight and a half.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I so that, Yes, I liked it. I actually I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: felt myself engaged in it, not distracted at all. It
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was much different than I felt the past weeks. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: think it was because there was such less amount of drama.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: The only drama we had really what's upfront with Heather.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: We I think we've got good conversations here. Yeah, I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: think it progressed us. I still think there was frustrations.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a seven. H point seven, just
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I think it was an increase in episode.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I think it was fine, which is a C plus.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It's just, uh, yeah, it just missed the mark a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: little bit again for me, because of these storylines and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: because of the exits and the lack of information around
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: these exits, I feel like we're just kind of like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: missing the mark when it comes to the story. Well, actually, uh,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that's this week's episode. We'll be back next week, uh
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: for another breakdown of the episode. It's gonna be hometowns. Uh.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: We have Bachelor headlines to talk about, but before we do,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: let's take a break and get a glass of water,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and we'll be back with the Almost Famous podcast as promised.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: As usual, we do have Bachelor headlines. The first headline
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: is one that I don't know. I have a feeling.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Actually year they expert on this stuff, but I just
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: read it. I'm like, there's gotta be more to the story. Well, anyways,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison says Bachelor producers said no to Heather Martin returning,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: but she in quotes kept fighting. This according to US Weekly.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: So this is super interesting because I would because this
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: explains why she came in so late. I mean, maybe
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: they just like gave in to her, and they were like, fine,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: we'll give in to her now, even though we know
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: there's no chance. So Chris Harrison says this quote to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: be honest, I found out later because the producers didn't
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: tell me she was coming. Hannah Bee had concocted this
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: story and was helping produce this thing from the side,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: he says. He said that she thought that how there
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: would be a good match for Matt, but when they
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: reached out, production said no. However, she kept fighting for this.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: She said, I want to come out there. One of
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the executive producers said, Heather, do not come to Nemicolon.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: You're not going to be on the show. He said,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: do not show up on our doorstep. And she did
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and she got a call. We got a call and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: said Heather's here, and I walked out to the gate.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: That's actually mind blowing because that is absolutely the opposite
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: of what we thought. Yeah, last week we were talking
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: about how like silly was that they were kind of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: playing that scenario as if she just showed up out
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of thin air in a minivan and all that. But
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: she does say in this episode, She's like, I flew
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: myself out here and maybe it's true. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's wild if you you think about that, that is
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: crazy crazy for like crazy though, that's just like a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: wild scenario that she would that she would take that risk.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: That's just like that. That's a huge risk. Also to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: go to Ni mccollon, uh to find out where it's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: at to pull up to the gate. I mean, you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: got to think if this all is just like how
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we saw it, that poor security guard is like, I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to do here. You're asking
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: for Chris Harrison. You're in address like this is this
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: is too much for me. I don't get paid enough
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: to handle this. Well. Interesting to say the least, Chris
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Harrison is in the headlines. Again, this is according to people.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: You know, there was a rumor, I don't know a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: week or two ago that Katie Thurston had been casted
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: as the next Bachelorette. Yet Chris Harrison says and people
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that the debate is still going. Yeah, so they haven't
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: really picked the bachelor ate yet. I guess it was
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: not announced at Women Tell All, so it was rumored.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Katie even responded to those rumors last week, saying like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that's news to her that she's the bachelorette, Harrison said,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: quote in the same interview with Rachel. But what was
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: before the race conversation? He said, I promise you this,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: if we named her the next bachelorette, I was not there.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: We did not name her or anybody the next bachelorette
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: during the Women Tell All special. In fact, we didn't
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: even talk about who the next Bachelorette would be unless
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: they started taping in the middle of the night after
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I left. So, as far as I know, nobody has
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: been named the bachelorette, and I promise you this, it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: will not be part of the tell all special. He said.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: There is a large debate as to who could be
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the next female lead. Uh, well, we'll have to wait
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and see. You know, I have a couple that I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: would love to see, but we'll wait. We'll fall along.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: This is an interesting story. I think it gives a glimpse,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: a real life glimpse. Uh And it's it's nice that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: they were vulnerable about it. Into couples coming off the show,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Jojoe Fletcher and Jordan Rodgers admit they initially stayed together
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to please Bachelor Nation. This according to US Weekly. Okay, yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: so this is a quote from Jojo. She said, I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: think that was one of the reasons we stayed together.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: In the beginning. There were so many reasons why we
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: thought we should not be together. I think subconsciously for
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: me and for him, there was this pressure not only
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: for people that watched the show, but from our friends
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and family. She said that the two some of course,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel the weight of those expectations anymore. She says,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: obviously we're far past that, but I think in the beginning,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: there is that sense of pressure. Yeah. Well, Uh, it's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: good to see them happy. I almost think that if
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you went back in their timeline, you can kind of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: see where maybe they maybe the best way to say
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: is like they started to fall in love again or
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they started to fall on love outside the show, because
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you can see this kind of like renewal on their
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: social media's and in their life of doing things together
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and their discussions, you know, their engagement, their second engagement. Yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: so it's great for them. Uh. To final headlines. Uh,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: this one comes from the very first Bachelor of all
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: time and according to US Weekly, Trista Cutter Bachelor, and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: this is her quote. Bachelor contestants need to accept producers
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: can use anything against you. So she says on the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Right Reasons podcast this week that they're producing a television show.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You you just have to accept that. She said that
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: once she got into a big, knockdown, drag out fight
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: with executive producer creator Mike Flice, and she said that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: he texted her that week and said, we have a
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: great relationship, but we're producing a TV show. The producers
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: are producing a TV show, so they need to have
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: certain things put in place, and they need to be
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: able to edit. They need to be able to create
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a different storyline in order to have people be engaged
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: in it. She said, there's no reason that the show
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: would still be on the air if the producers weren't
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: involved in that way. You know what I mean? Well,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Trista has always been fairly outspoken in fact. Uh I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: really believe this, Ashley. Um. I wonder here in the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: next kind of season of The Bachelor and what they
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: decide to do and how they move forward with everything.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the drama now will decrease. Do you
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: believe that this show would change in in a in
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a poor way if the drama decrease and they just
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: went back to increasing the love stories. I don't think so,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: because we had Tastias season as an example of that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: There you go. People loved it. The ratings, I think
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: we're really high. If you just look at her Instagram followers.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: She was a beloved bachelorette and I just feel like
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that was the most drama free season there ever has been.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Once we got past Claren dale Sea storyline, that's right. Well,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: good point. Hey. The final story of this week is
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: one that's based in love, one that we celebrate the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Bachelor alum, Leslie Murphy Welcome's daughter, Nora Blanche filled with
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: pure wonder and awe. Leslie says this. According to People,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: she was born on February twelve. Um, she's happy, healthy, beautiful.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Um and Leslie calls her daughter a pure wonder and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: it's an ought to be in her presence. She said,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the love and prayers. She
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and her dad are doing just amazing. Um just needs
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: some rest. Well, Uh, everybody, that's the Bachelor headlines of
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: this week. Uh now Ashley once again, Uh, there was
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: another podcast this week that we find uh that we
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: did that we think, uh, our listeners should listen to.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: They should take the time, they should sit in it,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: process it, uh and then go out in their communities
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and and learn, um be be educated to educate themselves
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and also to make a difference amongst those they come
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: in contact with so that uh, this old can be
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a better place again. That is an interview, and in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: big credit to Davon Franklin for coming on and taking
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: up the time that he did do that. Well, Hey,
• 42:10
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• 42:12
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• 42:15
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