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Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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podcast. Whoa, whoa.
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Woo for Jackie welcoming everybody to Bangor management.
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The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Kevin and Josh.
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I mean, listen, we we talked about it in last week's episode.
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We said if whoever ended up losing the finals was going to
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be too sad to appear on the podcast.
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And Jake did his best to appear on last episode.
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But this episode it was just too much.
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So you got the two the two champs here.
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Wow, that hurts. Yeah, No, Jackie, I love you.
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It was. It was a close battle until it
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wasn't. And listen, maybe, maybe, maybe
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next year things will be on his side.
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Or probably not. Who knows.
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Look, I'm, I'm, I'm leaving that league to to join a banger
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management league cause I'm a one league guy.
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So next year, I'm fully, fully rooting for Jakey and you, but
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you've already won So. So I'm rooting for Jakey.
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I don't know. We'll see.
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Yeah, because you have to keep your 3 three in a row streak
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intact. But.
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I will say. That would be easier for me.
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Yeah, we'll see. I mean, you'll be the one who
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gets to do all the fun trades. Yeah, I'll, I'll have to come on
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the podcast and tell you. Like all the fleeces I, I, I did
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or the fleeces I avoided. Do you know how many times I
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tried to trade Eric Carlson this year?
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And nobody was biting? They all thought I.
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Was never sent me an offer. Yeah, because you're trying to
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give me like, I forget who, like I.
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Anyway cost this year? Yeah, Gospel.
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I'd rather have Eric Carlson, but then I ended up keeping him
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for his five game week in the playoffs and yeah, that turned
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out well. Even though you only had one
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game where you got points, it just happened to be 4 points
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and. That's true.
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It's I thought he was doing crazy well.
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I mean, he was, but then I went and looked at his game log and
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was like only one game with points in the last like 6, but
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it was like a 5 point game. So you're like, OK, four points
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per game that we take it, you know, Yeah.
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But crazy, we definitely have to be saved from ourselves in a lot
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of trades. It was like, you look back and
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it's just, I'm like, if I'm not just saying this would have got
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wrecked. Yeah, I'm not just saying this
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so that whoever's next year in the same league as me of our
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listeners, like wants to make trades with me.
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This is actually a fact. Like I take screenshots a lot of
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time with my trade offers because I'll send them to Kevin
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or Jake, whatever, you know, and we'll be like discuss them, you
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know, in the same, you know, we all do it, right.
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And so at the end of the year, I kind of go through and like
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clean my camera roll, right? I don't like having a bunch of
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random stuff in it. And I'll look through all the
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screenshots and I'm like, these would have been, this would have
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cooked my season like right off the bat, you know.
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And so, yeah, we've talked about this a lot.
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But for next year, I'm very curious to see what it will be
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like in a new league with people who might be more more trigger
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happy on the on the trades, if it's going to cost me or work.
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And I was gonna say like, if anybody from our league of
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record is actually listening to this, because I feel like
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everybody wants to avoid trading with us because they think we're
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trying to fleece them or whatever.
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Like all the trades that didn't happen probably helped us even
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more than the ones that actually did happen because we didn't
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actually pull off that many trades.
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I mean, you, you pulled off in the most traded this year.
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This was the. Most things I've ever done in
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this. League four or five.
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OK. I traded.
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OK, let's go through them. I traded for Kucherov.
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I traded for Robertson. Wait, who did?
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And trade, remember. OK, let's see how good my memory
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is. I traded for Kucherov.
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I gave Bo Horvat, Wyatt Johnston and Chris Kreider.
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When Crowder was averaging like over a point per game for like
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a. Month or all three of those guys
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were over a point per game for like over a month.
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Yeah. So that was the first one.
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I traded Sketch and Faber for Robertson.
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I traded Cooch and and Gosta spare for dry Seidel and Tippit.
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Yeah, I traded. Yeah, I traded Robertson, Geeky
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and Slider for Matthews, Erickson, Eck and Barzel.
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And then I traded, actually did Crosby, Erickson, Eck and Barzel
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for Pasternack. Yeah, that's Lindholm and
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Vladar. And then I traded the infamous
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Matthews and Phibian, Sutherland for Celebriti and Holloway.
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So that brings us to a total of 6 trades.
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That's the most trades I think anyone's ever done in this
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league. That and of that high stakes as
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well like. Every single one of them
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involved like a top 10 picks. I I could never honestly, like I
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love doing trades, but my trader like so low standard to I'm I'm
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way more risk averse. Like I'm playing like just some
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things are just too risky for me and I'd rather just roll with,
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you know, I feel like I already built a strong teams.
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I want to make a better incrementally a little smaller.
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I don't take as much of the big swings.
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I love the big swings, it's too fun.
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I mean I think you were just like 1 trade too many maybe Like
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if you took back one trade maybe.
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The only the only all for me was the couch trade and even that
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was only an L because Tricell got injured.
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Like even though control was insane, dry soda was also insane
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and the way it built my team like it gave me face off wins.
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It was an honestly tip it turned up and lost.
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Sphere was injured, which is exactly what I banked on when I
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traded him away. The real killer was the
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celebrity trade though. Like if you didn't have
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celebrating Halloween, you had Matthews and I guess.
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You're also 1L did, yeah. The one I did was probably
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acquiring Matthews, but then immediately immediately became A
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because I pawned him off for. Holloway so if I have to.
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Yeah, honestly, I wonder if if Jackie hadn't made that trade,
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if he would have won the league over you.
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I mean, it definitely would have given him a better shot, that's
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for sure. Yeah, but they didn't have the
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best schedules either. Yeah, but the same could be said
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we've talked about a billion times with the crystal couture
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trade. He wouldn't have even been in
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the finals without that trade. So.
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So it goes both ways. Yeah.
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No, I have no regrets about about how I did.
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And honestly, it was all fun so. I think this was the year I made
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the least trades I only made. Two only made two, yeah, I only
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made their big wins, I think. I think they ended up being big.
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Like one of them was a huge L for a long time.
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Like Duro failure, slow processor spot for like 2 months
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yeah then Brad was awful brat. Did you see how Brett ended the?
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Season saw, yeah. Brad ended the season with like
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2 points per game guys. This is crazy.
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I know team after the Olympic break, but we were still telling
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people to hold at that point and how like his potential.
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We were so like, we were so deep in the brat hole of like, we've
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been saying it for too long. We can't go back on it now.
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And we also truly believed it, right?
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Like so there's no reason. Why It wasn't supposed to be.
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That wasn't supposed to be good. That was crazy.
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He carried me to the playoffs and helped me win the playoffs
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Like Brad. Brad got a four point game in
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the finals with a. Short and Shorty.
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Yeah, that's crazy. The like 20 minutes after Jarvis
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got a Shorty against. Me.
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I know. Yeah, that's wild.
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Yeah, crazy, crazy season. But we should probably, probably
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get into some questions because we have a lot.
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I made a post in the Discord asking for the questions and I
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told everyone if they don't ask us now, they have to wait until
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next season because it's our final mailbag episode.
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So I think people took that to heart and.
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We don't want to. Stuff to cover.
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Yeah, it's great. I'm very looking forward to it.
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But we should probably. Maybe we probably will do a
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wheel bike episode like in the off season or something, but
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maybe nobody's asked a question ever again, he said.
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It was the last one. I said the last one until next
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season, but yeah, official. Yeah, exactly.
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We'll see. We'll see what fun, fun stuff we
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have cooked up in the off season, but this is the last of
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our official ones. Alright, that's a lot of
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proface. Did you introduce all this
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stuff? Well, I was gonna say I have to
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introduce. All this stuff, OK.
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Listen, you guys listen to this episode.
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I mean, your finals are probably halfway done.
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So good luck and we wish you the best.
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I know a lot of people wonder their lease week 23, which is
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super cool to see. If you won your league, please
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let us know in the fantasy bragging channel in the discord
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because so many people said like, you know, I did this
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trade, this trade district because of you guys and like 1
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my season. And honestly, it's so gratifying
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for us to see that. Like, you know, some of the
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advice we gave you guys actually paid off and not actually paid
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off. Like in terms of we're
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surprised, but it's just kind of like it's still cool to see.
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Yeah, because a lot of times like, you know, like we give the
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advice and like. We don't see the consequences
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of. It, that's it.
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Like even even if people come for recurring advice, they
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don't, they don't often say like this is how this one worked out
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or whatever, you know. But like at the end of the
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season, it's nice to see you see all the all the wins.
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And I did this to keep it coming.
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I did want to shout out specifically, I think it was
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waffle stomper, Who he he, I don't know if you remember
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earlier throughout the season, but he was pulling off a lot of
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trades and then at some point his Commission said like you
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can't trade anymore. Your team is too good.
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Like they were they were vetoing his trades, even though they
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were like super fair on paper and like even like elves for
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like better playoff schedules and he got like really like, I
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mean, that sucks. Imagine you pull off a training,
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it'll make you too strong, you can't do it.
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Yeah, he ended up winning his league either even though they
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were blocking him from doing trades just cause he like all
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the good moves and he had built a great team.
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Like one thing, though, we can guarantee in the Bangor
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management leagues is the commissions are really smart,
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cool guys. So who will not who are very pro
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trades. So you know, like, yeah, I know
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cause him Congrats. And again, Congrats to everyone
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in the in the channel who's been letting us know they won and for
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everyone who is about to win this week.
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Yes and on that note, make sure you follow us on all the social
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media. So if you're watching this on
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Spotify or listening and on Apple and you haven't already
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hit the follow button, you've been here the whole season and
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you still haven't. Now is the time.
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I think if you're in your finals or just one year finals dramas,
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a follow and. Friend, you know, would be cool,
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like and subscribe. Yeah, you know, would be cool is
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I love seeing it in the bragging channel.
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But if anyone wants to take the time to leave comments, places
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that like people could see, you know, like public, like on, on
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on the YouTube video or on Spotify, be like, I want my
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championship because these guys are the best ever.
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And Josh is super cool. You know, if you wanna leave
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something like that, you know, like it would be, it would be
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really cool. Cause I mean, like then like
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perspective listeners, right? They would come check it out.
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They see these comments like that's all anyone wants us to
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win the ship, right? So that's the best endorsement
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we can get. I think on Apple you can leave
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like a written review. So listen, if you're listening
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to this and you have it in you to go on Apple Podcasts and
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leave us a review and tell us you won your championship and
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yeah, how good your season was. Like please let us know and
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maybe we'll read them on the the next episode.
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Yeah, like in between staring at that shiny trophy on your app,
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you know, like just got off to the next app, give us a little
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review, and then go back to staring at that trophy.
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Look at your team. Look at all those beautiful
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faces that got you the win. But yeah, we appreciate it.
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Shepard commander in the discord was like, is it just me or even
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after the season over like you're going and looking at your
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team and just like keep scrolling through and.
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I've been eliminated for like 2 plus weeks and I've been looking
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seems like shaking my fist at McDavid and celebrity.
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I'm like why couldn't you do this the one week I needed you?
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But yeah no I definitely do that.
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Way too long until pretty much the season ends until it stops
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getting tracked on Yahoo. That's I've been doing the same.
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I mean, it's only been a few days for me since the season is
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over, but I still feel like I'm proud of my guys.
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You know, it's just like I'm always gonna be on the on the
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winning squad, Like I'm gonna have a special place in my heart
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for these guys and I'll try to drop them next year.
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We'll see. Yeah, we'll see.
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I think. I think you've learned your
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lesson after this year. Alright, let's get into these
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questions because there are a lot of them.
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So here we go. Hudson for Heart on Discord
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asked. Two years ago we started a 10
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man, 3 keepers each keeper league.
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Say we want to expand to 12 people instead of 10.
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How would you go about this regarding keepers?
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Would it have to be some sort of expansion style draft?
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Say everyone has to drop 1 keeper and the new guys can have
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some decent options to choose from?
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Essentially, how do you expand a keeper league in a way that's
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fair for the new people without, you know, ruining it for the
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existing people? I've had this happen to me in
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uh, in fantasy football leagues and as the Commission.
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What I've done, because usually what happens is, you know, we're
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either adding two teams to make it a bigger league or maybe
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somebody drops off and is taking over Rosa that was given up on
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or something like that. And what I usually do is like I
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allowed the person to keep. I would have done in the past
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for football is because you know, your keeper is tied to the
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draft of where they were drafted.
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So let's say somebody was in the tenth round, be like a tenth
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round keeper next year. I was allowing the people in
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football to be like, OK, you can pick anybody on any team to be
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your keeper within reason. Like nobody that was like
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undrafted or whatnot. But it depends how stacked your
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team is and how how much value you would get.
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For this case. I honestly think like I feel
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like if you're adding two teams, if everybody is forced to drop a
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keeper and then do you know, you give the option to the two extra
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teams to pick within that lot. And then maybe you pick a third
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keeper from people that were not selected and then have it go
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that way. Just kind of give it a little
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mini fresh start Because if those two are gonna be at a huge
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disadvantage if they don't, if you just tell them to pick from
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whoever's left type of thing, right?
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Yeah, for sure. So I think, I think expansion
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style draft makes the most sense.
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And three keepers, you know, you still get if you have to drop
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one of them, you still can keep your two best ones.
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So hopefully that still gives enough to choose from for, for
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the 2 new guys because you don't want, no one's going to be happy
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starting off at a disadvantage, right?
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It's not their fault they're joining later.
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Um, so yeah, I think that's the best way to do it.
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Alright so let's go to the next one.
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Lucio Mancuso, 39 on Discord asked.
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I've got a question regarding an abuse of Commission power.
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Essentially I made my three my third ad on Sunday at 10:33 and
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I regretted making it. I felt like jumped the gun so I
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dropped him at 10:34. The guy I added was Fowler and
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he didn't have a check mark yet and I didn't want my last AD to
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be on a goal he wasn't going to start.
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I got antsy. Then as Commission I re added
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him at 6:35 AM. Am I in the wrong?
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5 second rule? I'll be honest, when I started
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reading this question, I didn't expect the abusive Commission
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power to be coming from the asker.
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You know, usually it's about like a convention that you're
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pissed at for doing something. So Kevin, what do you think as a
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as a Commission of leagues? So stand on this.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm, I pride myself on
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being like a very unbiased Commission.
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I'm able to call out when somebody's doing something right
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or wrong, no matter if it impacts me positively or
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negatively. I actually spoke to Toluca
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Mancuso on the Discord and after hearing more about the story,
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because my initial reaction was like, listen, like, if you're
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doing something that not everybody else can do, it's
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already in use of power, right? Like you, you added somebody
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like it's your, it's your duty as a player in the league to do
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due diligence. If you're picking somebody up
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like, you have to know that. Yeah, that was my first instinct
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as well. Right now he gave context and
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kind of what happened was so he picked picked Fowler up and then
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instantly in his chat is group Lee chat.
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He said I made a mistake. I'm going to cut him right away
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and he did and also his opponent that he was facing in the finals
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had no ads left anyways. So what he did was he added the
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guy that cut him instantly and said he made a mistake.
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So like that happens to anybody, right?
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Imagine you cut me, David. I'm not gonna be like our sucks
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to be you like you know, if you if you make a mistake and you
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instantly call it out like as a Commission, I have no hard
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feelings to reverse whatever happened right, but he's the
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Commission. So he added the guy you cut him
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and then you know right before the game started.
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He ended up adding Fowler once he was confirmed and just went
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about his day right? And then he ended up winning his
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league by less than a point off a stat correction.
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OK, that's crazy. Because overnight he had lost
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and then after that when he woke up they added an extra shot for
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McDavid and the shot was on Spencer Knight he also had on
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his team. OK, that's crazy.
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So he ended up wanting to leave. So I guess the other guy
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complained. It was just like you added
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Fowler, like you should have been able to add 4 type of
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thing. But to me, I think obviously you
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can't abuse or Commission powers to go over the ads.
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But you said you made a mistake. You easily said it and then like
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no, the whole day passed. Your opponent technically could
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have picked him up, but he had no ads left.
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And then you just re added the guy that you added to me.
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Obviously, I think the cut, the ad and cut is a mistake, but
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it's not a consequential mistake.
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So it doesn't impact the sanctity of the matchup and I I
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think it's fine so. I think for me, like the way I
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would go about it, I mean, this literally happened early.
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Great Jake. Yeah, I was playing against him
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and he dropped Sean Walker. Yeah.
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And then he was like, oh, shoot, I meant to drop this other
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player instead. Literally missed clicked.
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And he was like then he messaging early group chat.
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He was like, does anyone mind if I, you know, pick him back up
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and replace it with the drop I meant to do?
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And, you know, my instinct was like, no, you can't do that
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because I was really happy because I thought it was a dumb
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drop, you know, And then Walker got a short handed point against
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me that week and want him like. So like 6 bucks for something
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that. Cause I'm actually like a hugely
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consequential like move. Um, but then I thought about it
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some more and I'm like, you know, it doesn't matter.
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You misclicked. It happens to everyone.
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You literally called it out the second it happened.
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Yeah. And but the other thing that I
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think the step that's missing and maybe this happened and I'm
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not sure the context, but the step that was important was him
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messaging in the group chat. Like does anyone have any issue?
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That's it. And and no one had any issue in
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the chat, me included, as his opponent.
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And so he took it back. I feel like, you know, he said
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he message in the chat. No one said anything.
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If the guys only saying something after he lost by a
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point, then that's his problem, you know, But if the guy said
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something right away and was like, I don't think it's fair.
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If anyone has said in the league, I don't think that's
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fair. I think you gotta live with what
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you did and and that it is what it is.
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But but yeah, so I mean, that's that's the key thing is just ask
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because essentially like a picture, if you weren't the
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commissioner and this happened, right, you would have to go and
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ask the commissioner slash ask the league, can you undo this?
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Right. So that's kind of how I view it,
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is like act as if you're not the commissioner and, you know, if
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you can get it undone that way, then I think it's fair game.
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Yeah, and I think also like to the point, I'm not justifying
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the cutting and the reading of a player with Commission powers,
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but if you if the Commission said no, we can't undo your
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move. He would have just been forced
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to hold Fowler and then followed play for his team anyways and it
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would have been the same, right. And also the fact that there is
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opponent was already out of ads really doesn't change anything,
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right? Like he had one ad left for the
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week for for for the game and he used it on one player.
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Technically, yeah, but it's also he could have picked up, you
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know, Vladar for whatever reason.
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And yeah, if he messaged and said I made a mistake and then
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cut them instantly and then picked up Fowler later that
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night, nobody would have had an issue either, right?
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So I I feel like it's just because.
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Of how the context that matches was, it's next.
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Yeah. All right, let's go to the next
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one. Doctor Duff on Discord asked.
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Do you guys prefer one week playoff rounds or two week
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playoff rounds? Hmm I mean as long as the two
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weeks are not the last week of the season where all the
18:33
shenanigans are happening, people getting benched or what
18:35
not. This is why we avoid week 24 in
18:36
general. Yeah, I think 2 weeks is like
18:39
fun and concept because more sample size means quote UN quote
18:43
better chance for the best team to win.
18:45
But I think I like one week playoff rounds more.
18:49
Yeah, I, I fully agree. I also just think there's enough
18:51
time in this season, right. Yeah, if you're gonna do 3
18:53
rounds of playoffs and you're gonna make them two weeks each
18:56
and I, I'm never gonna play with the week 24.
18:59
Like that. Just to me is just a big no, no.
19:02
So then you're how far, how early into the season is your
19:05
playoff starting? It's just not feasible.
19:07
So also at the end of the day, like, you know, sure, the bigger
19:10
sample size, better team wins is nice, but you know, you need to
19:13
have that element of kind of randomness, like that's kind of
19:16
what makes it, you know, fantasy.
19:18
Like that's what makes it the game.
19:20
Somebody commit anybody and that's what's.
19:21
That's it exactly. That's beautiful.
19:23
About the size, I think, yeah. So I think one week is is my
19:26
preference as well. Alright, Bertos, pink sucker on
19:29
Discord asked. Who are your all-time
19:31
alliteration kings, both in hockey and outside of hockey?
19:35
Putting me on the spot, right? Now, yeah.
19:37
Wow. Cool, Cofield.
19:39
Especially his fifty this season, which.
19:42
Oh my God, He. Needs he hasn't yet.
19:44
I know, crazy. OK, And who's who's your
19:47
favorite alliteration king outside of hockey?
19:50
Outside of hockey, Peter Parker. Yeah, OK.
19:58
All all the Marvel guys are are illiteration kings.
20:01
Bruce Banner. Yeah, Barker.
20:03
Except Tony Stark. Wow.
20:04
Reason. And she says he's just too cool.
20:07
Yeah, I feel like I've been saying it, like, wrong all
20:12
season. So I'll say my boy, you still
20:14
handsome? Yeah.
20:16
I just love that it's. Duration.
20:18
OK, I love that as an alliteration on the European J
20:23
It's just fun and outside of hockey, man, like I'm like
20:28
trying to think of like any. For some reason, the first name
20:30
upon my head is Ryan Reynolds. I don't know, it just popped in
20:33
my head. So you know, I used to be I used
20:36
to be a big, big Weiner and his fan.
20:38
I feel like he got like, too big and then like, like, more, I
20:42
guess. Yeah, maybe that's it.
20:43
Maybe I'm just a sheep, but also like, I liked him.
20:45
Like it is like really early like sitcom days where he was
20:48
like, you know, his whole like fast talking like shit was like
20:51
kind of like new and stuff, you know.
20:52
Yeah, you banger movies. Like what was the one with
20:55
Sandra Bullock? I forget.
20:57
Yeah. That was the one where she was
20:58
like a proposal or something. No, the proposal.
21:00
The proposal. Yeah.
21:02
Yeah, that was great. All right, so there you go.
21:07
Operation King, if we ever make like actual merch merged we can
21:11
put out there. Maybe we have like an
21:13
alliteration King's shirt. Would like just all the
21:15
alliteration king names on them, that would be cool.
21:17
I'd wear that, yeah. Or would you like some sort of
21:19
like It could be some sort of like you dropped this
21:23
alliteration king and it's like someone.
21:25
Holding the crown? I don't know that you dropped
21:28
your crown, Alliteration King. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
21:32
Alright, Gnome on Discord asked who is an underperformer from
21:36
this season that you're still all in on, and who is an over
21:39
performer from this year that you're betting on repeating,
21:42
assuming no trace slash injuries.
21:43
So in both. Cases.
21:45
Yeah, in both cases it's guys that were high on for next year,
21:48
but one is a guy who was an underperformer but we're still
21:51
high on and one is an over performer.
21:53
So for me, my first one is clear to me.
21:55
It's still in Holloway and I know people are going to be like
21:58
he was so good at the end of the season, but like he was pretty
22:01
brutal for the majority of the season.
22:03
But I stand by it and I'm still. Using an underperformer that
22:06
you'd be. Hiding that's it exactly.
22:07
So he's an underperformer from this year and he was one of my
22:10
signature picks. And like I felt bad about how it
22:12
played out for the first for the start of the season, end of the
22:14
season. I feel like, you know, I was
22:16
vindicated. But like, you know, at the end
22:18
of the day, you need you need the guy to show up for the full
22:20
season. So didn't work out as well as
22:21
I'd hoped, but I'm still very happy to have him on my team
22:24
next year. So that's my my underperformer
22:27
who's an over performer who I think I'm betting on repeating.
22:30
I guess like a kind of way to look at that is kind of maybe
22:33
someone who broke out that I think is for real.
22:35
Darn. Rather, if you sign, if he signs
22:38
with Tampa, I feel like I'm all in.
22:40
OK. I love that.
22:41
I mean that's gonna be a question coming up actually, but
22:44
I love that one. I love that a lot.
22:46
I'm trying to think who's an over performer that I'm like
22:49
that I really believe in for next year.
22:53
Suzuki. I think, I think Suzuki is a
22:57
he's a second round pick in my opinion, which is pretty.
23:00
Sick. I mean he's Do you consider him
23:02
to overperform? I feel like he went from 1.1
23:06
points per game to 1.25 points per game.
23:09
Then that's a pretty. Elite level.
23:10
That's pretty. I mean he's like top top ten in
23:12
the league in points like he's he's no joke.
23:14
I mean, I'm just not a fan of like the he doesn't shoot that
23:16
much, you know, but. In our league records, he's
23:19
ranked 5th. On the yeah, it's crazy.
23:22
No, I was actually thinking Caulfield or honestly, like the
23:26
whole haves team, and obviously we're super biased, but all
23:29
those talks size, yeah, you know what?
23:31
I'll say Lane Hudson, I think he's like the real deal.
23:34
And I think I kind of set him aside because I wanted to ignore
23:38
my halves bias and because he's not like the biggest like cat
23:40
stuffer. But the the point he's been
23:42
doing is unreal. I think that's a fantastic
23:44
answer, yeah. My my underperformer that I'm
23:47
still in on next year. I mean my I don't I'm not just
23:51
saying because he's on my team, but I feel yes for Brett.
23:53
I feel like yeah, for sure. But this season he.
23:56
Literally Will Cooley. Who would do exactly what I
24:00
thought he was gonna do? Yeah.
24:02
I think she was like 1.8 points per game or less for most of the
24:06
season. It balanced out at the end of
24:09
the year with how much she was on fire, but for a large part,
24:11
he was like a bust pick. Right, But next year I'm going
24:14
to be all in with New Jersey. Yeah, they started the season as
24:18
a contender and then it just kind of fell off the rails
24:20
completely. Absolutely.
24:22
I think next year they'll be back at it.
24:23
Maybe this is just Rangers 2.0 from what we did this last year,
24:26
but I feel like it's different. Yeah, well, I feel like first of
24:30
all, the firing of the the GM, I think is is gonna be a shift.
24:33
We'll see what moves are done in the off season.
24:35
I think Brad's gonna drop in some drafts.
24:36
I think people are going to be, especially people who owned him
24:39
over the course of the season. They're gonna be like have the
24:41
bad, you know, sour taste in their mouth from like how he
24:44
played for them, especially if they didn't make it to the
24:45
playoffs because of it and they didn't get to enjoy his last
24:48
couple of weeks. And I'm going to be all over
24:50
that. Unfortunately, the only thing
24:52
I'm going to be in, Kevin's also going to be in.
24:53
So it's going to be hard to get him later than I think is is
24:57
valuable, but I think that's a great thing.
24:59
Who's the who's the underperformer that you're out
25:01
on next year? Like you're not betting on the
25:03
bounce back. Like he fell off and I think
25:04
it's done to me. Like the first name that came to
25:08
mind was like. Henry and Cairo Kyra feel like
25:11
I'm not yeah, I'm, I'm not in on Cairo.
25:13
Hedman is the is a massive 1. That's, that's definitely the
25:15
biggest, the biggest name for me, I think.
25:18
Eliza Patterson. Patterson, I agree.
25:22
I'm not in on him anymore. This year.
25:23
I was like, I was tempted to to draft him like a couple of
25:26
rounds late and. 2 bad years in a.
25:27
Row for the bounce back, yeah, but no, I'm not a believer in
25:31
him. Weaker I think weigher for me.
25:34
I buy not. Touch it, I mean.
25:36
I just priced things are gonna go higher than expected.
25:39
I would grab him late as a bangers defence.
25:41
I still think his bangers are elite, but I don't think you're
25:43
gonna see much points from him and he's definitely not be play
25:45
one over Sergachev. Hello, Book.
25:49
I mean 0G. I could tell you, you know who
25:51
you know, who's a piece of, you know, Darcy Kemper.
25:55
That man will never be on my roster again.
25:59
When you can just win the league with like a damn blood orange at
26:01
greens, you know? Literally no, I can't wait.
26:04
You know the worst part about drafting goalies is that when
26:07
those fun like good goalies pop up on waivers, you don't wanna
26:11
drop anyone for them and so you miss out and then you end up
26:13
sitting there with your garbage goalie watching this free agent
26:16
pickup outperform them all season.
26:18
So when you don't have any goals, you can just pick up
26:20
whatever you want and and enjoy the ride.
26:22
So I'm very much looking forward to that.
26:23
So yes, all goalies. All right, let's go to the next
26:26
one Waffle stomper on discord asked.
26:28
Are there any players you guys can think of from this season
26:30
that changed your minds about them in either a positive or
26:32
negative fashion? Like any players, you'll be more
26:35
inclined to draft next season and players are inclined to
26:37
avoid based on their performances this season.
26:39
Someone who changed our minds. Not not the same as the last
26:41
question. A little different.
26:42
Like guys who maybe we had a strong opinion on, like maybe
26:45
how you hated Jason Robertson. And maybe, you know, you're, you
26:48
know, you're a bigger fan who knows something like that.
26:52
Jason Robertson is an answer for me because I was like, he was my
26:56
ice pick this this year because you know, everybody was hoping
27:00
for like 100 point season again and I was just like, I don't I
27:02
don't think the odds are high that he gets there right.
27:05
Like I was the Jason Robertson hater in the offseason and that
27:07
was clearly a huge L for me. Like find my worst take this
27:10
year. I had no shares with Jason
27:12
Robertson all season and he had an amazing year.
27:15
Next year, I don't think I'm super high on him like again,
27:18
like I don't think he repeats what he did this year, but he's
27:20
definitely not off my board. You know, like I'm definitely
27:23
like I consider him a great talent.
27:25
It'll just be about price and who I who I like around that
27:27
draft, but he's somebody that I really changed my tune on and
27:31
Mark Stone. I think Mark Stone was another
27:33
one for me. I feel like this season I became
27:35
the biggest Mark Stone fan because it's crazy.
27:37
Everybody hated him, everybody hated him.
27:39
He was injured, blah blah. He's one-dimensional, but what
27:41
he was producing on the ice is just insane.
27:44
I felt like I had to defend him all the time.
27:46
Yeah, now that's super fair. I'm like completely blanking
27:50
right now and who like my opinion has changed on a lot.
27:54
Kemper. I'm trying to think.
27:55
I mean, obviously all goalies is its own thing.
27:58
I don't know. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of
28:00
these young guys that like probably I don't take a shot on,
28:04
but I just feel like a lot of these young guys, especially on
28:06
like these younger teams where they're given more opportunity,
28:09
they're popping off like earlier in their careers than I expect
28:12
them to. So I think I have to give more
28:14
respect to rookies slash like like sophomore, like guys like
28:18
into their second year because I think the popoff is happening
28:21
sooner. And I think my my old strategy
28:23
of kind of like avoiding the young guys and going for the
28:25
more proven guys, like you're just missing out on too much
28:28
value. I think like that's why it ended
28:29
up with like a celebrity or bar or anything like that this year.
28:32
I'm always out of the draft because I kind of like let other
28:35
people take the shot at that. But you know, sometimes you take
28:37
the shot and you get a sliding around 3.
28:38
So yeah, with around 4 type stuff like.
28:40
That's an extra first round pick for your draft.
28:42
That's exactly it. So I'd say maybe rookies in
28:45
general, but yeah, Cutter go yeah, I didn't believe in
28:47
because I just didn't see it like happening this.
28:50
Fast. What about Eric Carlson?
28:52
Are you in next? Year actually, I'm actually
28:54
still not in. I'm in this for me, it's like
28:57
he's, he's kind of like an OV territory where I'm just like.
29:01
You don't wanna be on the. Client I don't want to be on the
29:03
Cliff and that's it. And honestly, every year until
29:05
this year, Ovi proved me wrong, right?
29:07
Like he was unbelievable pick like every year and every year I
29:10
stayed away since I've been doing fantasy like because, you
29:13
know, I was always like, is this the year?
29:14
Is this the Cliff? That's kind of where Carlson is
29:17
at for me. I'm happy, not happy, but I'm
29:19
very fine with missing out on another great season from him
29:23
because the risk is too high. Especially because after this
29:25
season, there's no way he gets drafted as late as he did this
29:27
past season. Yeah, so you're gonna have to
29:29
pay actual value for him. I mean I got him in the 16th
29:33
this round. He probably goes around like 9
29:35
or 10 next year is my guess. Yeah, that's solid.
29:38
What about? What about the Um, Dang, I'm
29:43
blinking. I had the name wrong.
29:45
Yeah, Slough. So I feel like you, I feel you
29:47
were anti Habs and just like we don't know what we're gonna.
29:50
Get yeah, for me, Habs in general, that that's a really
29:53
good point. Has in general.
29:54
I had on my do not draft for years because the years of them
29:58
disappointing me and I was just like, I don't want to be
30:00
disappointed in fantasy and in real life.
30:02
And also they just have never had offence in my entire life.
30:06
Right. But now I'm I believe and like
30:10
this is not as a house fan, you know, this is as a I be as
30:13
objective as possible with them in terms of fantasy because
30:15
because I know how I could. That's it.
30:17
There's top six, top five power play.
30:20
Gonna. Have fantasy.
30:21
He's got unbelievable assets like I I'm very much willing to
30:26
draft Habs and honestly, like I probably want to like I'm not
30:29
gonna overpay for them because even because of my Habs fan.
30:31
But if it works out that way, like with falls to me, I'll be
30:34
very excited to have some strong halves on my team because it's
30:36
just double the fun. Last name, haves and rookie.
30:39
He's gonna change your opinion on him.
30:43
I'm still, I think I'm still avoiding.
30:45
Yeah. And that's that could be a that
30:47
could be a hot take after the year he's had.
30:49
I still think Harley just waiting in the wings for like
30:51
the smallest slip up. You know, like if they start off
30:54
the season colds like that happens to every team, right?
30:56
Like any team could have a cold stretch.
30:58
If that stretch happens to be the start of this season.
30:59
And if the reason they're called it happens to be their power
31:02
play, Harley's going to get the shot and Harley takes it that,
31:05
you know, it could happen. Essentially, there's a lot of
31:07
guys who it wouldn't tap into. Oh, I just I just got a name of
31:11
it. But yeah, anyway, see he's
31:12
getting I'm still I'm still avoiding him.
31:14
A name of a guy who was very high on and who I am honestly
31:17
avoiding, but I'm not gonna pay the price for him next year is a
31:20
most cider. I'm actually much lower on him.
31:23
Going into the season was very high on him.
31:24
I was very excited for I drafted him in the third round.
31:27
I thought I got him out of steel.
31:28
He was my top pick to to get that round and I just found, I
31:33
just think that. I think there's a chance it was
31:36
a solid, solid, solid. And you look at it like .7
31:39
points per game last year is a .55 or .5 point per game, yeah.
31:44
Like he took he took a step up for sure, but I just think that
31:49
for where he goes, I don't want to draft a guy at that spot who
31:53
I think Axel sending is gonna get is gonna get power play one
31:56
at some point. That's alright.
31:57
The very least the entire season I felt like that was a
32:00
possibility. I also felt like it was a
32:02
possibility Detroit would trade for a power play 1 defenseman.
32:04
You know, like I'm not. Interested in Hamilton in the
32:07
offseason? Who knows?
32:08
Yeah exactly. I'm not interested in drafting a
32:10
guy where he's going to get drafted with the assumption he's
32:13
power play 1 and and he has the risk the entire season of not
32:17
being power play one. Yeah, so that's one that I
32:19
changed my tune on. For good point.
32:22
Alright, let's go to the next one.
32:24
Mamba Forever on Discord asked which stud player this year do
32:27
you think is going to have a drop off next year?
32:28
OK, we got a lot of these, these kind of questions.
32:30
One answer. I feel like they're they're all
32:32
kind of different like because they're all like the same idea,
32:35
you know? Like I feel like they'll have a
32:36
little of a different spin on them.
32:38
So who was sick this year? Who's gonna?
32:40
I mean, look, I'll say it. Maybe it's just celebrate what
32:43
you say. Really, I'm just like second
32:47
year Darren Radish mean Darren Radish is too obvious.
32:50
It's like, OK, fine for me. Darren Radish, if he resigns
32:53
with Tampa, I'm in. If he goes anywhere else, I'm
32:55
out. Like I'm not.
32:56
Touching fully agree I fully agree cause if he resigns, as I
32:59
keep saying that one of the questions coming up in like a
33:01
second is Darren Radish question so get into that.
33:03
OK, who is The Who you said you said celebrity.
33:06
That's kind of crazy. I'm just.
33:07
Scared I'm not I'm not out on but I'm like I'm.
33:10
Gonna go in the first round. Are you, are you, are you
33:12
avoiding him there? It depends where I'm drafting.
33:15
Like, should I take passed over celebrity?
33:17
Yeah. What I think matters.
33:18
Celebrity. I don't know.
33:20
It's close. You know, like Matthews got his
33:22
own baggage of. Questions thinking celebrity
33:24
over Matthews for sure. Yeah, but it's it's tough like
33:27
Kaprizov or celebrity like give me capris off Why no it's.
33:30
Gonna do it. You know, like just taking cap
33:32
there. Makar over celebrity that's
33:37
like, you know what you're getting with car, right?
33:39
Celebrity. I feel like it's one more year
33:41
sample size. That's fair.
33:43
McCarty disappointing season though.
33:45
Yeah, they could have. Any power play?
33:47
Yeah. Anyways, I think that's that's a
33:50
fair one to say, yeah. And then?
33:52
Malkin for me not. Next year he might, he might
33:54
not. Even be Yeah, you had asked
33:56
about Crosby and that's really tough.
34:00
I think that this year I took Crosby and he was amazing as as
34:05
usual, honestly. And normally I avoid guys of
34:07
like his age because of that. That Cliff, right?
34:10
I'm not necessarily worried about is that the Cliff?
34:12
I think he's definitely gonna just keep being point per game.
34:15
But I just think the way I'm planning on building my team
34:18
already ahead of time. Like I don't think I'm going to
34:21
face off wins again. I think, I think every year that
34:24
I've won, the three years I won in a row, I had one strategy and
34:27
then at the last two years I decided to try something new.
34:29
Not the same new thing, just a new different.
34:31
Things. You do different and and it
34:34
didn't work out. So I'm just, I think I'm just
34:35
gonna go back to my roots and face off wins was never part of
34:38
my original strategy. I won the league and I won face
34:41
off wins in the finals. I'm just saying.
34:43
Yeah, but you also did not go for face off wins this year.
34:46
So it's just that your opponent went for it even less than you
34:50
did. Yeah, yeah.
34:53
So I guess, I guess those are all good names.
34:54
I think I think Malcolm's too easy one, because you.
34:56
Might not know next year. I'm looking quick but like.
35:00
I'm assuming marks down, You don't think it's gonna drop off
35:03
next year? I.
35:04
Don't think Mark Stones falling off next year.
35:07
I don't think I think he's gonna get drafted too.
35:09
High Philip Forsberg maybe really remember your name
35:12
independent this all season of Nashville has like at some point
35:15
if there's no more Ryan O'Reilly or.
35:17
OHS Steven Stamkos. Yeah, Stamkos.
35:19
I'm not buying into Stamkos as forty goal season out of
35:22
nowhere. No yeah no.
35:24
Alright, let's go to the next one.
35:26
Kara on Discord asked advice on how not to ruin my marriage
35:30
while playing the hubs in an 11 day championship game.
35:34
This was a joke, by the way, so just putting it out there.
35:37
But yeah, you're listening to this.
35:38
I hope you're. Winning.
35:40
Yeah. Step one is win.
35:42
And Step 2, you know, is gloat. And that's, you know, look, is
35:45
it gonna help your marriage? Probably not.
35:48
But anytime I play games with my wife, the gloating is the best
35:51
part. Yeah, I was gonna say like, you
35:53
can globally. Gotta be respectful about it.
35:55
You gotta be like, yeah, listen, like you did it.
35:57
You played really well. Could have gone either way, but
35:59
obviously the best team won and that's it.
36:04
If only you were in the beggar management discord 2 you know
36:07
you had chance but. Terrorist said you tried to, she
36:10
tried to get her her husband into the discord community but
36:13
it was like too much with football going on and everything
36:14
like that. So maybe, maybe next year after
36:16
she beats him in the finals, he'll be like, alright exactly.
36:18
I gotta be part of the community.
36:20
That's how that's how everyone should do.
36:21
When you beat everyone, you know, you be like and they're
36:24
like, how did you do so well this year?
36:25
And you're like, well, you know what?
36:26
I'll tell you my secret now that I have the championship under my
36:28
belt. And.
36:30
Yeah, All right, Kara is a real question.
36:32
What will your schedule like during this offseason?
36:36
Um, so I mean, listen, this is, this is coming out on Thursday
36:40
or Friday, probably one of those two days.
36:43
And this will likely be. The last of our regular content.
36:48
Of our regular scheduled programming, this will be the
36:50
last episode. So I think after that we're
36:54
going to take like a week or two break, just kind of like
36:57
mentally reset a little bit and take a step back and be able to
37:01
enjoy our real lives again just to just for a little.
37:04
Bit just a little bit. Just a little bit.
37:07
And then I think in the offseason that we're gonna be
37:09
trying to get out like at least one or two episodes every week
37:13
and stay consistent with that. We might not have all three of
37:16
us on at the same time because I know in the offseason, like Jake
37:19
has a lot of like commitments with work and Josh is literally
37:22
raising a baby and I got nothing going on but.
37:26
No, you got a big triathlon coming up soon.
37:29
I don't. Don't sell yourself.
37:30
Short training for a triathlon in September so everybody
37:33
support but. Yeah.
37:36
No, you can you can expect one to two episodes a week.
37:38
I think in the offseason we're gonna do maybe we'll do some
37:40
like recap content. I'm like, how did the season
37:43
went? Like how everything finish?
37:44
Yeah, we'll do a lot of fun content like Ricky Carr,
37:46
favorite chocolate bars or food bars or.
37:49
Food resources #1 for sure. But OK, here's how kind of I see
37:55
it in kind of like blocks, right?
37:57
So it's like, OK, this is the last of the regular scheduled
37:59
programming. Then we have a little break.
38:01
Then we're going to do, I think, a weekly episode just following
38:03
the NHL playoffs. Just, you know, it's pretty much
38:06
gonna be us talking about the playoffs.
38:07
So not necessarily fantasy will always come up, will be like,
38:11
oh, maybe this means something for next year.
38:12
But for the most part, just be talking about what's on the
38:14
playoffs. We'll keep that going until the
38:16
playoffs end. Then maybe another short break.
38:18
And then I think it's gonna be starting off with maybe some
38:21
more like just like fun content, like you said, you know, like
38:23
non hockey deleted. And for this, I think we might
38:26
actually start a channel in the Discord where we asked for
38:28
suggestions of what to talk about because, you know, you
38:31
guys all have great ideas and we could pretty much talk about
38:34
anything. So.
38:34
We learned that people actually want to listen to us talk about
38:37
non hockey stuff like yeah, apparently our personalities are
38:41
just so fun and nice and dandy that people are actually
38:43
interested in us besides their fantasy advice.
38:45
So that was that was nice here. Yeah, it was.
38:48
And and you know what, if that helps expand us even more, all
38:52
the better. But yeah, so I think we'll be,
38:53
we'll be shooting out messages to try and get record like, you
38:56
know, suggestions, whatever. So we'll definitely have those
38:58
fun ones going on. Um, in June I'm going to be in
39:01
Montreal. We're gonna have our bets
39:03
episode. Ooh, yeah, that's gonna be a fun
39:05
one. Actually, I feel like we petered
39:06
off on the beer bets the second. Half of the season nobody wants.
39:09
To be yeah, next year we'll have to be better about just honestly
39:14
we should, we should have like 1 beer bet per week or something
39:17
like that. Yeah, I think that's like a
39:19
solid, that's a lot of beers. OK, 24 weeks. 4 beers.
39:25
So that's easily doable. OK, I think, OK, that's our rule
39:27
for next year. One beer bet per week.
39:28
And not each person has to be involved in the beer bet per
39:31
week, but you know it'll be it'll even.
39:32
Out but as usual thank you will lose all his bets Yeah exactly
39:35
and then check on protists versus Dora that.
39:38
You're talking about that, yeah. Can you combine the points with
39:41
the ILIO produce? Help.
39:45
Probably, probably the amount of power play points, but yeah, so
39:50
besides. So we'll have the beer bets
39:51
episode and then yeah, we'll have some recap contents as well
39:54
sprinkled in there. And then I think it's gonna be
39:56
around like mid to late August when we start doing our
40:00
preseason content going into next season.
40:02
That's when we started this past year, I'm pretty sure so.
40:04
Maybe a little before that, maybe like end of early July or.
40:07
Something, yeah, yeah, we'll see.
40:09
We did last year. I feel like we did.
40:11
We had a good thing going, but something like that.
40:13
So it's going to be hockey until the hockey, then some fun stuff
40:18
that's not hockey and then prepping for next year.
40:20
I think that's that's kind of the vibe.
40:21
And like Kevin said, one to two episodes a week and there'll be
40:24
a mixed match of hopefully all three of us can be here for as
40:26
many of them as possible, but we'll have to see what our
40:29
schedules hold. I just want to say Dora, Fav and
40:32
Protest combined for 30 power play points this season.
40:35
Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, the goats, yeah, Together
40:39
they, they're a machine, got one power play point, but.
40:43
The. Could hit 30 without him so.
40:49
I guess Jake was right to not bend that produce we get another
40:52
powerful. True, he would have to drink one
40:56
extra beer. Yeah, crazy.
40:58
Alright, let's go to the next one.
41:00
Jordanian Discord asked who's the one player you wish you had
41:02
drafted this year for the in the following rounds?
41:04
OK, so first let's go round one to five.
41:07
Who do we wish we had drafted? That I didn't.
41:11
They didn't draft. Yeah, I feel like, uh, I know
41:16
that celebrity obviously got taken round 3.
41:19
That's got to be one of the biggest names.
41:21
Yeah, but Dad got taken I think round 4, but he got injured, so.
41:24
Yeah, but Dad was around 4. I mean to me.
41:28
Was celebrating for me. Yeah, celebrating around 3 for
41:30
sure. Or maybe like werenski while
41:35
round three as well. Werenski was yeast.
41:38
Yeah. Hmm, Bidar, thank.
41:42
You. Yeah, Yeah.
41:43
And that's the names that pop out.
41:45
Jumps up to my head. Rounds 6 to 12.
41:48
Who do I wish I drafted? Hmm, the pull.
41:52
Up pull car field. When did he get drafted in six?
41:56
He was 7. Right, he was around 6, was the
41:58
3rd pick of the sixth round. OK.
42:01
I mean, yeah, it will cool it. Also, I was pretty happy with
42:05
what Will Cooley was giving me. The whole worked out in the end.
42:07
It working when it doesn't matter like the individual
42:10
picks. It's just like it all.
42:11
Everyone contributed. Especially showed up when he
42:13
counts. Somebody dropped a Mitch call in
42:14
the sixth round in our league. Are you serious?
42:17
Yeah. That's not that's not to look
42:19
back on. OK let me let me pull U this
42:21
draft real quick and. I wish I had Dylan Cousins and I
42:26
did. That's probably one of my.
42:29
Best round 12 though. I want to see like.
42:32
I want to see who like you know. The leader Matthew could Chuck
42:34
in the ninth round. Probably.
42:36
Wish I took him. Actually, I don't know if I took
42:38
him. Actually, I mean, I took a, I
42:41
know he got taken before me, but I got Boo Horvat in the ninth
42:44
round. That was a pretty, pretty sick
42:46
pick. Who'd you wish you drafted?
42:49
Who do I wish I drafted? I'm trying to find the latest
42:52
like sick pick from that kind of like area.
42:55
I wish I'd drafted Nick Schmaltz.
42:58
Yeah, honestly, he was sick, right, Riley, really Loki, Yeah
43:02
got drafted around 10, which is honestly pretty early for him
43:05
like, but. How did Mark Stone get drafted
43:07
in the 11th round? Did he actually in our league?
43:11
That's nuts. OK.
43:12
Yeah, that's OK. Nobody would have gotten Mark
43:14
Stone, yeah, but I think I would have to give up Ricard Raquel or
43:18
Josh Norris, and I couldn't give up either of them.
43:21
I would have had to give up Evander Kane, so taken one, pick
43:25
four and Mark Stone. Josh, that would be the.
43:29
Biggest thing is the worst really thought he was practicing
43:33
on power play 1. I know right before the season
43:35
started and I thought that, well, I mean, we didn't know how
43:38
bad they would be going into this.
43:39
I know we knew they'd be bad, but like usually there's some
43:41
talent but yeah, that's brutal. OK rounds 12 plus.
43:44
I mean I got a shout out my Morgan geeky pic.
43:47
Yeah, those phenomenal. 13 obviously like he dropped off a
43:50
lot, but I sold high on him away before that happened.
43:52
In round 14, I wish I drafted Leo Carlson instead of Alexander
43:56
Romanov. Oh yeah.
43:58
Leo Carlson, round 14. That's huge.
44:00
Palador Afev, Round 14. Still ended up.
44:03
Was a great one. Yeah, that's fair.
44:06
I mean, Patrick Kane, I got him round round 15 was pretty,
44:10
pretty great pick. Drafted Matthew Olivier have
44:15
been a great pick at that point, you gotta take the young guys,
44:17
right? That's what that's what it's
44:18
telling me. Yeah.
44:19
Brother Morgan Geekie 2 picks before Cutter Gautier.
44:24
In a different league. That's not magic.
44:26
Sorry, Morgan Riley. Sorry.
44:27
OK, yeah, no, that's brutal. Obviously Eric Carlson, around
44:31
16, ended up being a sick pick. I mean, other than that I feel
44:39
like. Probably should have drafted
44:41
Spencer Night or Judge Grieves instead of Au Kopeka Lucan.
44:44
Yeah, I mean all. This too early UPS.
44:47
If you didn't get all those injuries you could just held him
44:49
on IR and. Yeah, it worked out.
44:50
It would have. I'll shout out my own pic of of
44:54
Shane Goss sparring round 19. I feel that's a pretty.
44:57
Yeah, that was that was phenomenal.
44:59
I probably should. I wish I drafted Trevor Zagaris
45:04
instead of Ville Koivunen, who I thought was gonna pop off
45:07
because it's. Probably gonna forgot about the
45:10
Billy Coleman in ohe my God, you guys don't understand the entire
45:13
like first two weeks of the season Kevin's going on.
45:16
Let me tell you guys let me get covered in like you guys are
45:19
cooked like biggest mistake in the draft ever.
45:22
You know, like, and I was like, dude, you're gonna drop him in a
45:24
week and he's like, no way. He drops in like half a week
45:27
later. Jimmy Snuggerud too.
45:29
He was around 20. Picking up league, he finished
45:31
the season strong, but he he wasn't great.
45:33
No, he wasn't like in for for a lot of the season.
45:36
So alright Jordan, this would also asked what's your cure for
45:39
fantasy hockey withdrawals over the summer?
45:41
My cure is very easy. It's other fantasy sports.
45:44
Now the hockey is over, I can give all my attention to fantasy
45:47
soccer, FPL or fantasy F1 or fantasy baseball now that I'm in
45:51
the Bangor league with all of you guys.
45:53
So that's how I spend my time until hockey season comes back.
45:56
For me, it's like the opposite. Like I feel like fantasy season
45:59
ends and I get my life back. You know, I'm like, oh, I'm I I
46:02
like the amount of time I spent thinking looking like doing
46:05
fantasy is just, I freed up all of a sudden.
46:08
I usually like every summer I end up going through, I think
46:11
like like 20 books. Like I just start like like
46:14
reading a ton. I play like, you know, a ton of
46:17
like hockey and stuff. Although like that is regular.
46:20
Anyways. Yeah, just all my other hobbies
46:23
that usually take a back seat to fantasy, um, I just power
46:28
through over the course of the summer, um, and yeah.
46:31
So I'm very much looking forward to it.
46:32
If anyone has any book recommendations shoot them to me
46:34
in the discord but. I mean, listen, before the movie
46:37
came out, I read Project Hail Mary and that was pretty sick.
46:40
I don't know if you read. Yeah.
46:41
Have you read or saw the movie? No, no, I haven't.
46:43
Heard of any of it? Yeah, something like this in the
46:46
movie. OK.
46:46
Yeah, right. The book is everything these
46:49
days. Yeah.
46:49
He's amazing. He could do everything.
46:51
Yeah, he's like the the other version of Meryl Streep, but.
46:57
Yeah. But I will say also, I just got
47:01
the, I don't know if you ever heard of Brandon Sanderson.
47:04
You're joking. I'm obsessed with Brandon
47:06
Sanderson. I'm telling.
47:07
You the Mistborn series, the first trilogy.
47:09
I'm the one who told you to get. It well, I have one one of my
47:12
best friends is also like a huge Brandon Sanderson so fan, so
47:15
he's been like. Dude, I've read the entire Dean.
47:18
Do you realize, you know that like the Mistborn series is like
47:20
part of his like greater Cosmair and like it's all connected
47:23
anyways, it's sick. You're gonna like, you'll have
47:25
to tell me what you think because I'm so like, so into.
47:28
It yeah, I saw. I finished Project Kill Mary and
47:30
like, I do not read nonfiction. I do not read fiction.
47:35
They've only read nonfiction. That's crazy.
47:37
Sounds like, let me just start it.
47:39
I went on vacation like earlier this year and then I read
47:41
Projectile Mary and I was like, this was so fun.
47:43
Maybe I should read more fiction.
47:45
And then I got sold on this fantasy and I was like, OK,
47:48
Brandon Sanderson, like, I'm all in.
47:49
Let's see. Let's see what it's all about.
47:50
So I bought the trilogy. It was on special.
47:52
OK, now I just started the first book and a few pages in SO.
47:56
OK I won't spoil anything but it's exciting honestly the
47:59
amount. Also the amount of works.
48:01
Like I'm so jealous you get to go through it all for the first
48:03
time again. And I wouldn't be surprised if
48:04
they make movies out of it and. They are you already signed.
48:08
I don't know if it's movies or TV shows something, but he
48:10
already signed like like the rights or whatever.
48:13
OK. That makes like he made sure to
48:15
get like major creative, let's say into it.
48:18
Yeah. So I don't know what's coming
48:20
out in the next couple of years probably, but I'm trying to
48:22
finish see it adapted. Yeah, you do.
48:24
Exactly. Plus he still has his main
48:27
series like the Stormlight Archive.
48:29
It's going to be a 10 book series.
48:30
Only five books have come out and it's like Arrow one is five
48:33
and then Air 2 is five more. But like, the six books not
48:35
coming over another like, four or five years.
48:37
It's crazy. But to be fair, he's not.
48:39
He's not like the type of author who, like, just leaves you
48:41
hanging with you. In the meantime, he's gonna
48:43
release, like, 50 bucks. Like he raced ridiculous pace.
48:46
Yeah, it's crazy. It's gonna be like.
48:48
Unpause and then writes a different series and publishes.
48:51
Like they're all kind of connected.
48:53
So like he writes like there's a bunch of like different series,
48:55
but they're all like part of the same universe.
48:57
And it's not, it's really. Don't know what I got myself
49:00
into but I'm excited. If you if you read the series,
49:03
like the series and you get into it, then I'll give you the
49:05
reading order that you should read.
49:06
OK perfect. Alright let's move on.
49:10
Paul on Discord asked if I'm eliminated in a keeper league,
49:13
should my roster be locked to prevent me from adding slash
49:15
dropping players? It makes sense to not affect the
49:17
finals matchup, but I also may want to grab guys as keepers for
49:20
next year. Parameters could be put in place
49:22
where I couldn't take action until Saturday for example, so
49:24
anyone I drop would not clear waivers until the season is
49:26
over. Essentially, what is your
49:27
opinion on locking teams once they're eliminated?
49:30
Obviously the keeper aspects puts a spin on it because if
49:33
it's not a keeper, I think absolutely just lock the teams.
49:35
There's no reason for them to be making moves keepers.
49:37
It's like it's fair, you know, like if there's a guy who
49:39
humanly think like let's say you wanna Porter Martone, right?
49:41
You're like, oh, this guy like popped out of nowhere and I kind
49:43
of want to grab him. I feel like that's kind of Fair.
49:46
So it's I think it's a great question.
49:47
What do you think? I mean, as a fellow Commission,
49:50
this is a very black and white decision for me.
49:54
If you have literally anything to play for, anything to gain or
49:58
avoid, you are you should be allowed to make moves.
50:01
And it's just like rules of the what everybody's getting
50:03
themselves into. It's the same thing like if
50:05
there's a punishment for last place, like imagine not being
50:09
able to make pickups to avoid that punishment.
50:11
Like for sure that, Oh, you're affecting the finals.
50:13
It's like I, I understand and I, I think if anything, like your
50:17
league should have rules to know, you know, maybe protect
50:20
that. But I think in general, as long
50:22
as you have something that you're playing for, whether it's
50:24
potential keeper options or better seating for draft picks
50:28
or to avoid penalties or whatever like that, like there
50:31
should be no rules preventing you from making any moves.
50:33
And I would not be upset so. I fully agree.
50:35
I think that's the that's the clear answer.
50:37
If something to play for you can make moves.
50:38
If not, then lock their roster, all right?
50:42
CHTML on discord asked. Yeah, I wasn't sure if it's, I
50:47
guess it's just champ, champ with the next.
50:50
First off, just want to say that I just want my league.
50:52
I want to thank you all for the great advice and content
50:54
throughout the season. Wasn't a question, but it was
50:55
nice I included like my question is how much do you value your
50:59
league being competitive versus winning slash money?
51:01
For example, I just want my 19 league where a lot of managers
51:03
were inactive for parts of the season.
51:05
On the one hand, it made the playing experience a bit boring.
51:07
However, I got the W and made some cash.
51:09
So I mean, it's both our both our great right?
51:12
You know, get into some of those easy leaks to fund your real
51:15
leagues. No, I mean, realistically, like
51:19
I love to win, but it's about it's about the competition about
51:22
like the good play. Like, you know, we we talk about
51:24
our legal a lot and I feel like over the last couple of years it
51:26
has gotten a lot more competitive And look, I think it
51:30
was competitive to begin with. So I still prefer the days when
51:33
I was winning every every year. But but the you know, I
51:37
definitely in like this scenario you're described, the champ is
51:40
describing, I wouldn't really want to be a part of a league
51:42
like a ninth mean man league. Everyone's inactive.
51:44
Like is it really that impressive to to win when like
51:47
no ones doing anything? Like it kind of just feels like
51:49
getting free money, which is great, but that's not what it
51:51
like. That's not fantasy.
51:52
You know, it's like it's just free money, which is great.
51:55
I was going to say, like, I feel like I have an unpopular
51:57
opinion, but like, I, I, I just want our league of record.
52:00
And it was a decent amount of money, but like, I could not
52:04
care at all about the money that I want.
52:07
To me, it was just like the high stakes of like competing against
52:10
somebody that's also trying to win.
52:11
Yeah. And then like, just winning in
52:13
the competition like that is thrilling to me.
52:15
And I'd put just as much energy and effort and passion into it,
52:17
whether it was for $0.00 or like thousands of dollars, you know
52:20
what I mean? So that's just the Winning is
52:22
the best. Part the winning is the best
52:24
part, right? Like I'm not gonna say no to to
52:25
a cash prize at the end, but like, I know there's some people
52:29
that I play in fantasy leagues with that for them, like they
52:32
won't be invested at all. There's no money into it, which
52:35
is the complete opposite of how I play fantasy, right?
52:38
Like if I play against people that don't care about it, I'm
52:40
not gonna, I'll still care, but I'm not care as much.
52:42
But I know if I know you care a lot, that I'm gonna care a lot
52:44
too, you know? Yeah, honestly, for me, like the
52:47
only reason that I play with in leagues with like the dollar
52:52
amount or whatever is just to make sure that other people are
52:54
into it, you know, like that people don't just like quit
52:57
halfway through season. For me, like I'm playing free
52:59
leagues. Like I've, you know, I just
53:00
bought a house recently. I don't, I'm I'm cash poor, you
53:03
know, like I'm very fine not having not having a big buy in.
53:06
If, if I know everyone's as into it, like if I know the league is
53:09
filled with like, you know, people like me and Kevin and
53:10
like, you know, taking and stuff like where there's like, you
53:13
know, I wouldn't need the money aspect of it at all.
53:15
I just I like the competition and like everyone being engaged.
53:18
So that's the one I would choose.
53:19
But again, free money is great. See, like, in our ideal
53:23
scenario, like what you talked about in your league, like he
53:25
was saying like how, like, you know, have to leave was like
53:27
inactive near the end of the season.
53:28
So like, he won the league, but it kind of felt like it wasn't
53:31
much of A battle. Yeah, I think like keep, keep
53:34
the money aspect, obviously, but then just try to fill the league
53:36
with people that you know are actually going to care.
53:38
Yeah, that might be difficult. Maybe you only got 9 people
53:41
because that's the only people you had to play with.
53:43
But like, join the Discord and there's always people in there
53:45
that are looking to play. Just obviously you gotta be
53:47
careful of where you're putting your money and everything like
53:49
that. But feel like you're part of
53:52
the. Bangor ME Bangor Management.
53:53
League, yeah, you're gonna have a community to play with and I
53:56
think that's the biggest part of the fun, I think.
54:00
Yeah, and it's going to be really cool, honestly, like the
54:03
the relegation system thing, like it's going to be really,
54:05
really cool and fun and it's gonna I'm excited for it.
54:08
We'll have obviously be brainstorming it in the
54:10
offseason, but it's gonna be it's gonna be really cool.
54:12
Let's go to the next one. Show me Pago on Discord asked if
54:15
you could remove one player from the league at the start of the
54:17
year for the whole season, Who would it be and why is it
54:19
Matthew Olivier? Ohhhhh boy.
54:21
Put the answer out of my mouth, but.
54:23
Yeah. I, I don't like, I wanted to
54:26
root for Olivia because I wanted to root for Columbus, but then
54:29
every time I play against them, it was just awful.
54:32
So you're telling me I was. I was right there with you.
54:35
Yeah. I can't believe crazy.
54:37
It was nuts. I've never seen something like
54:39
that happen just so consistently.
54:40
The best part was like by the people were picking him up in
54:42
the discord because he liked us. Exactly.
54:45
Like the second time around people were like, OK, this
54:47
actually is a thing and it worked out again and I'm like,
54:50
this is wild. Who would I take out?
54:54
I mean, Anthony Cirelli, I guess.
54:56
Yeah, he's he's my new. It could be for various.
55:00
Reasons. That's fair.
55:03
I don't know every goalie. Darcy Kemper.
55:08
Who? Who would I take out?
55:11
What are the various reasons? There's people you don't want to
55:12
play against, people you don't want.
55:14
People think are too strong. Feeling are too strong to take
55:17
out McDavid. Yeah, even pointing feel a
55:19
little bit. Yeah, no, I think yeah, Matthew,
55:22
Olivia from me I think is yeah answer.
55:26
Yeah, for me. It's just broken after you
55:28
almost ended my season beginning like shutouts.
55:30
Every week, yeah, yeah, I guess it's just anyone I have a grudge
55:35
against. But right now, right now the
55:37
number one guy, Storelli, until next season when I forgot about
55:40
him, but for now, he's the one who ended my season single
55:42
handedly. So that's.
55:44
Eight points in two games, that'll that'll do it.
55:47
Yeah, that will do it. All right, Wiley Coyote on
55:50
Discord asked who was your best waiver wire pickup of the year.
55:53
There's a couple of questions. Let's start with one Who's your
55:55
best waiver wire pickup of the year?
55:56
We're looking for team waiver wire pickup of the Team of the
56:01
Year. I mean, to me, I think it's it's
56:05
between Connor Brown, who basically was seller for me in
56:09
the playoffs, or Jet. No Jet gives my best pickup of
56:12
the season. I think.
56:13
Yeah, he he basically solidified my goalie position when I went
56:16
zero G. It had the result, 0 healthy
56:18
goalies and then it led to me also just like literally only
56:23
holding Jeffries in the playoffs and he was hitting my minimum
56:26
starts alone. 3 minimum starts, which was huge.
56:29
I've got to go with probably, well, no, probably my best pick
56:33
up of the year was Brock Faber who I used to flip for like to
56:37
bundle sketch for Robertson. You looking for like a week or
56:40
something? Yeah, I know.
56:42
And he had an insane week. He was partially one for a hot
56:45
sack and then and then I flipped him.
56:47
So that's probably the best pick up in terms of how it worked
56:49
out. I think the best pick up in
56:50
terms of longevity on my team and someone stole my team was
56:52
probably Brent Clark getting fireplace.
56:55
Dropped like the week prior. Yeah, exactly.
56:57
I was so excited. Alex Lion was actually a great
57:00
pick up for me because I got illuminated before he started
57:02
sucking. So it's so it worked out pretty
57:05
nicely. And then my last one would be
57:07
probably Troopa was it was solid.
57:09
No trouble. Solid for me.
57:10
Samuelson was really good too, for a long time.
57:12
Like he. Was for the bangers.
57:14
He literally broke out and I and I got him right before that, so
57:17
that was fun. Yeah, he was fantastic.
57:20
Yeah. Yeah.
57:20
And my biggest regret is not picking up Darren Radish because
57:23
I had too many defensemen that week and he's only gonna be
57:25
would have only fit in my schedule for one game.
57:27
So I was like, I don't need to get that.
57:29
And then I was literally gonna pick him up.
57:30
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure that's everyone
57:32
story. OK, next one.
57:33
Who did you hold on to for too long?
57:35
Am I gonna say Zach Benson again Because I held him for like a
57:39
month when he was supposed to be day-to-day and I already had
57:41
five injuries? I mean, my, my answer is
57:43
definitely both Joey the court and Darcy County say I drafted
57:47
both of them and I, you know, both were droppable and ruined
57:50
my seasons. So definitely those two, um,
57:55
that's still on your team. Or no, I mean did I just ended
57:58
up cutting like way later than I should have cut?
58:00
Early you hold on to Ben Kindle for like that like.
58:03
You was for something. No, he was, he was pretty bad
58:06
and you were like, but he might be something and then he dropped
58:08
him like 2 weeks later. Was that it was the whole thing.
58:11
Like it cost you, like it cost you like a match up and you're
58:14
like, I'm thinking for the future or whatever.
58:15
Really. I don't remember what it was
58:17
like. Similar to the Benson thing.
58:19
OK, who is your best draft pick? I mean, if I'm looking at my
58:24
draft, I got Eric Carlson in the 16th round.
58:26
I feel that's gotta be, that's gotta be my best pick.
58:29
Either Eric Carlson in the 16th or Ricard Raquel in the 11th or
58:35
Dylan Cousins in the eighth. Dylan Cousins is ranked 27 in
58:38
our League of Record. Those are all really good.
58:42
I think mine has to be either goes to spare in the 19th or
58:46
geeky in the 13th. I think geek.
58:48
Corvette in the 9th. Geeky with how hot he was for so
58:52
long. I think you were getting second
58:55
round value out of Gigi for over half of the season.
58:58
Yeah, that was a good pick. That was that was based on what
59:01
we said in the offseason. Yeah, we were all very high on
59:03
him. And who was your worst draft
59:05
pick? I could tell you who my worst
59:06
draft pick was. Wait, no.
59:08
You tell me who my worst traffic was.
59:09
I'll tell you who your worst draft pick was.
59:11
OK, OK, let me go to your team and see.
59:16
I mean, no, your worst traffic was, well, Cooley in the sixth
59:19
round like. But it ended up being like solid
59:21
for a long time. He was giving you what I got
59:23
was. He was giving, he was worth
59:26
rostering. He was nowhere near a six round.
59:28
Valley. Yeah.
59:28
When? Who was?
59:29
Like rousing. That's true.
59:30
That's it. Like yeah, exactly.
59:33
For you, it's definitely Darcy Kemper in the 8th.
59:37
He did the most damage to my team, but he was not my worst
59:39
draft pick unfortunately. Was who's your worst draft pick?
59:42
Was it OHK JT? Miller, T Miller in the 1st.
59:44
I didn't even look at your first round pick, it was too bad.
59:47
But David? Literally killed my entire
59:49
season. OHT didn't you killed your
59:51
entire like 2 weeks until you traded a boy?
59:54
Well, I had to package him away with Teach Thompson, who was.
59:56
Unreal. You know you got Connor McDavid.
1:00:00
Wayfair Dougie Hamilton in the seventh was brutal.
1:00:03
Yeah, that's true. Switch in the sixth was brutal
1:00:07
until he turned it around and I flipped like a mother Robertson.
1:00:09
So it works great. So I won't count that.
1:00:11
But yeah, those ones are pretty rough.
1:00:13
Not not my best draft. I think that's why, like you
1:00:16
look at all the moves I made, like I actually made some unreal
1:00:18
trades, but my draft was so poor that my worst draft pick was
1:00:22
Evander Kane in the 11th round. That was that was my worst draft
1:00:24
pick. That's true.
1:00:26
No, there was there was a lot. It wasn't.
1:00:28
It wasn't a great draft, especially for how much I
1:00:29
prepared this year. Like more than I usually do.
1:00:32
Maybe I need to prepare less next year.
1:00:33
I don't know. Maybe you gotta take some Kevin
1:00:35
pointers. I feel like I always have draft
1:00:37
and I ruined it somehow. For me, like I feel like I
1:00:40
start, I like at least the last couple of years when I haven't
1:00:43
won, it's been I like come out of the draft and like, what have
1:00:45
I done, you know? And then I spend the whole
1:00:47
season like building my team back up with like great trades
1:00:50
and like pickups. But it like hasn't been enough,
1:00:52
obviously. I feel you had a better draft
1:00:53
than Jake. Really I feel like my drops kind
1:00:57
of a brutal. You know you just stick.
1:01:00
With Cam Fowler, no jiggy jiggy draft was sick.
1:01:07
Yeah, I guess like he's like top, his top Niners are his top
1:01:10
8 was good for him. And then he is like everything
1:01:12
else was just dog water. That's fair.
1:01:15
But like, that's the most. Important.
1:01:17
We didn't have any misses in his top aide.
1:01:18
I think you had a couple misses in your top aide.
1:01:20
So then that. Yeah like made-up for it with
1:01:22
some late round value, but the top ones are the most important
1:01:25
to get right, especially your top one.
1:01:27
OK and let's go to the next one. Blister boy on discord asked
1:01:31
what's Radishes value going into next season If he stays with
1:01:33
Tampa will he keep power play 1? Alright, finally we can talk
1:01:35
about Darren Radish more than we already have.
1:01:39
Let's see, like if he if he stays in Tampa, it's going to be
1:01:43
a big conversation because the whole I feel like Hedman has
1:01:46
enough pulled out. What Hedman wants, admin gets.
1:01:49
But The thing is like within reason.
1:01:51
So I think Radish what he did this here on the power play like
1:01:54
how can you not just like let this guy fly?
1:01:57
Or there's no way. There's no way if he also like
1:02:00
we're going to get our answer when we see what the contract
1:02:03
is, because if he stays with Tampa and they pay him like, you
1:02:08
know, a decent amount, which he should get that they're not
1:02:12
gonna pay him that to not put him in that position again.
1:02:14
Like if he was like before this season, who the heck was he,
1:02:17
right? They're not gonna.
1:02:18
Put him back in the decision to people I don't.
1:02:21
Think, I think that I think that he would want to yeah, I think.
1:02:25
But I think he's also gonna like, this is his chance to get
1:02:27
a payday, right? Like he's like.
1:02:29
He's gonna generational wealth with this contract like that's
1:02:32
that's. It and he was like he was like a
1:02:34
nobody before this right like no one no one had really heard of
1:02:36
him like and he's having like the by far the most insane
1:02:40
season he's ever going to have. So he needs to you know, he
1:02:44
needs to get the bag essentially.
1:02:46
And so I think he's going to wait until free agency and
1:02:49
whoever gives him the best offer he goes to.
1:02:51
I think Tampa is going to try and of them, I think.
1:02:53
I don't really give them the best offer.
1:02:55
But I don't think given the best offer because free agency,
1:02:57
you're fighting age 31 other teams.
1:02:59
So I don't think he's gonna stay with because I think he'll take
1:03:01
the money as he should. If he does stay with tempo for
1:03:04
less money, I think that's a mistake.
1:03:06
But you know, I'm thinking like business side or whatever.
1:03:09
But I think in terms of his career, I think he had the best
1:03:13
place for him is Tampa. But in terms of his life, I
1:03:16
think you should take the money. So yeah, if he stays on tap, I
1:03:19
mean, you said this earlier, right?
1:03:20
If he stays on Tampa, I'm very interested.
1:03:22
If he goes anywhere else, not interested.
1:03:24
And maybe. Not like it top five.
1:03:27
No, it's like top. He's gonna be top 10 for.
1:03:29
Sure, even if he's on. Tampa is 7 or 8.
1:03:33
Yeah, I I put him around. There, that's crazy life.
1:03:35
Forgot I was undrafted this year.
1:03:37
Came out of nowhere. Yeah, no, 100%.
1:03:40
But that's why he's on Tampa. He will keep power play 1.
1:03:42
They're not. There's no doubt in my mind
1:03:44
there's resigning him. There's a little bit of a chance
1:03:47
that they give it back to Headman or.
1:03:48
Something for sure. I mean, like, look, it's not one
1:03:51
of those situations like. Somebody.
1:03:53
No gun to my head here. Yeah, it's not like Macar
1:03:56
Bouchard or somewhere where they have literally no competition.
1:03:59
But I would like if in my mind it's 99% radish and 1% headman.
1:04:04
Yeah, like, I really don't see unless it comes out that had
1:04:06
been like was dealing with something crazy this whole
1:04:08
season. He did just take it personally,
1:04:09
Right. Like unless it turns out like
1:04:11
there there was a big reason why he wasn't Power Play 1, and that
1:04:14
reason is very clearly resolved going into next year, I have no
1:04:18
reason to believe that Darren Radish resigned on Tampa would
1:04:21
not be Power Play 1. So I would treat him as such.
1:04:24
Alright, Blister Blindspot also asked what is Cole Hudson's
1:04:27
value next season? Will he take power?
1:04:28
Play one from chicken? This is way more I've.
1:04:30
Been pretty. Yeah.
1:04:31
This is way more ambiguous. He's been really solid, I feel
1:04:33
like, since joining the league a couple like a week or two ago.
1:04:38
And I don't know, it's I mean, chicken was so good, right?
1:04:41
Like this year and last year and then, you know, Clarkson kind of
1:04:46
came out of nowhere and went out of nowhere.
1:04:49
Like people knew he was going to come.
1:04:50
Carlson gets shipped off. So you're like, OK, does this
1:04:52
mean to just solidify chickering even harder?
1:04:55
It's like no, now maybe Cole Hudson gets it.
1:04:57
I know I could see this possibly being a situation like when Lane
1:05:00
Hudson joined the Habs or Matheson was power play one for
1:05:03
the first half of the year and they gave it to Lane Hudson for
1:05:05
the second-half. I'm are you like, who are you?
1:05:08
Are you avoiding both? Are you pick drafting either,
1:05:11
Um, what's your, what's your kind of outlook for draft next
1:05:14
year in terms of Hudson versus chicken?
1:05:16
I still like chicken more. I think chickens gonna be the
1:05:18
power play. One guy.
1:05:19
I just feel like he's cemented himself as like a really good
1:05:22
NHL defenseman and he has the pedigree and he's like a pretty
1:05:25
good power play quarterback as well for Washington.
1:05:28
So I feel like it would really need to be a lot of things going
1:05:31
wrong for them to put Hudson there or Hudson just needs to be
1:05:34
exceptional. It's not like Blaine Hudson, you
1:05:37
know, overtaking Mike Matheson like his chickens and actually
1:05:40
like a really good defenseman that like we see it before, like
1:05:44
when power comes in, does not overtake Rossdale because
1:05:47
Dylan's already pretty sick, right?
1:05:48
So yeah, I think it really just depends.
1:05:51
But I think it's a year too early for Hudson and less like
1:05:54
to really punting. And next year they're
1:05:55
rebuilding. Only does it come back and blah,
1:05:57
blah. They really want to get the
1:05:58
young guys going. Then I can maybe see it.
1:06:00
But even then, I feel like both would be there.
1:06:02
I think there will be a lot more clarity in the offseason with
1:06:05
moves they make over possibly retiring or not.
1:06:08
And and obviously like closer to the season we start seeing some
1:06:11
practice lines and stuff like that.
1:06:13
But I will say that I'm not willing to take chicken,
1:06:18
assuming he's power play won all year.
1:06:20
I'm willing to take him as like if I I would draft him as long
1:06:24
as you're, you have in mind the fact that he could lose it.
1:06:27
I still think he's 90% to have it all year.
1:06:28
Like I, I agree with you that I think it's still very early and
1:06:31
there's no real reason unless they're hunting.
1:06:33
Like everything you said, I agree with, but you just, I just
1:06:36
don't like to be blindsided. Like I was kind of like it was
1:06:39
dumb. That's it.
1:06:40
Like, and it was dumb. I should have, I should have
1:06:41
seen it coming. But I just thought like with how
1:06:43
bad Luke Hughes was on the power play last year and then how good
1:06:46
Doug he was before, I thought like he's the guy.
1:06:49
And then I was kind of blindsided.
1:06:50
The same with with Cider losing it for a couple for like a week
1:06:53
to ascending Pelica. Like, look, maybe I just didn't
1:06:56
do my research well enough or, or or whatever, but I got kind
1:06:59
of blindsided with those. I just want to go in with the
1:07:01
information. If I know a guy's power play one
1:07:04
but has the chance to lose it, I'll draft him as such.
1:07:06
But if I'm drafting a guy as a clear power play 1, I don't want
1:07:08
him to be at risk of losing it. So that's kind of how I look at
1:07:11
it. All right.
1:07:12
Blister Boy on Discord also also asked where would you draft
1:07:15
Kucherov next year? Can you list your top ten draft
1:07:17
picks? I mean.
1:07:19
Alright, let's let's say we're taking, we're taking banger
1:07:22
management leagues for next year.
1:07:23
Learning settings, which means face off included, because
1:07:26
that's the big thing with coach and dreidel I think is.
1:07:29
Worse 5 couches at worth 4 in my opinion.
1:07:32
Yeah, and you doesn't argument to take him at two or three.
1:07:38
Even 1 you could take him over over McDavid or McKinnon.
1:07:41
But see, we had this conversation like, what if Kush
1:07:43
has like a 444 next year and these other guys have a 333?
1:07:47
Yes, that's true. We have.
1:07:48
We were talking about this and a lot of it comes down to playoff
1:07:51
schedule at the end. I mean, that's the main reason
1:07:53
we were pushing McKinnon over McDavid this year at #1 right,
1:07:55
was the playoff schedule. So OK, assuming they all have
1:07:59
the same playoff schedule because we don't know yet going
1:08:00
into this season, I think you have to go McKinnon one and two.
1:08:04
And then with the faceoff wins, I still think dry cell is more
1:08:07
valuable than control of and that's fully aware that like
1:08:09
which could end with like .2 points more than dry saddle per
1:08:13
game. But the left wing faceoffs is
1:08:15
just so much value. I think it's just so much value
1:08:17
and he's like elite at it, right?
1:08:19
He gets like 1213 face off wins. So I would go, yeah, I would go
1:08:22
McDavid, McKinnon, Dry Sydal, Kucherov.
1:08:26
And then if we're rounding out the top ten at 5.
1:08:30
At 5:00, it's gonna be probably pasta.
1:08:33
OK, pastor ready, Pasta. That's it.
1:08:36
See, I went Brady ahead of pasta this season.
1:08:38
And then looking back, like I probably would have had a better
1:08:40
shot going pasta. But Brady also like did exactly
1:08:43
what I expected because to me I was just like, if Brady gets a
1:08:45
point per game, like I think he should be way more valuable.
1:08:49
And he did do that this season. He's at .95.
1:08:52
He still has the Pimms, although less than 1.12 instead of 1.7.
1:08:56
And the power play was insane. The just the hit stick down a
1:08:59
little bit in the shows, take down a little bit like .3 and
1:09:01
.5. But he's still a lead at both,
1:09:04
right? Might still have best I think I
1:09:06
would take, yeah, I'd probably go pasta then Brady.
1:09:08
So that's five and six and that's seven.
1:09:11
Do we go? It's it's comprised.
1:09:13
Like Kaprizov, Macar, Pellegrini, yeah, those type of.
1:09:16
Guys, I think that's that's the. Is that the order you would do
1:09:19
it? Caprice of macaroni.
1:09:20
Kaprizov maybe? Kaprizov Celebrity macar capris
1:09:27
that. So that's 7899 just listed and
1:09:32
then so now we're on. So who's our 10th 1?
1:09:35
10 is it is it Rantanen, Matthews, Bedard, Renton and
1:09:41
Matthews is like the I think I think Matthew is probably be the
1:09:44
common pick here for a lot of people.
1:09:45
People hate Matthews, but then he delivers most at a time.
1:09:49
This year was a really bad year. I think I'm staying away from
1:09:52
him. No, but ten 10th pick is around
1:09:54
where like you start thinking about it.
1:09:56
Yeah, you know, because the fact is his ceiling is so high.
1:09:59
I do think the Leafs obviously are kind of sucking the next
1:10:02
couple of years and I'm mainly I'm just worried about his
1:10:04
injury issues. It just feels even though this
1:10:06
injury this that ended his season is not completely
1:10:09
different from what he's been dealing with in the past.
1:10:11
He did he's still like I don't know, it just feels like he's
1:10:14
he's squishy. So I don't know.
1:10:16
Yeah. And then you've got like, like
1:10:18
Branson and I think. The Roundtable.
1:10:19
I think, I think Ranton is who I would go with.
1:10:21
I think he proved to us not. Necessarily, Michael.
1:10:23
But I think, Oh yeah, I'm cool too.
1:10:26
Actually, I think I take over Antonio.
1:10:27
Because the face off wins too. As I like the shots a lot, I
1:10:32
don't necessarily believe the Pimms is real from Latin, even
1:10:35
though he did it for a full season.
1:10:36
I just I I wouldn't count on that as part of his game.
1:10:38
And I think that's a big thing that's boosting his ranking in
1:10:40
our in our league. I like icon there.
1:10:42
I go like just to round off a couple more, I'd go Eichel,
1:10:46
Rantanen, probably Matthews then, and I'll do like I was
1:10:50
going to say, Jackie, when you take Bidart over Hughes.
1:10:53
Hughes over Bedard. Yeah, so probably go Hughes,
1:10:56
Bedard, and then where's Queen Hughes and all this?
1:10:58
Does he go after that? Stuff like that.
1:11:01
Yeah, probably. Yeah, he was.
1:11:03
Probably. Talking.
1:11:04
Pic. Yeah, keep in mind someone's
1:11:06
gonna draft him some goal. Yeah, like.
1:11:08
Last year. Hello, Buck.
1:11:09
Again, no one draft. No, I don't think anyone
1:11:10
drafting of around 1:00 next year I'd be surprised if even
1:11:14
around 2. Honestly, I think he goes around
1:11:15
3. I think someone better to bounce
1:11:18
back. Yeah, someone's gonna get on the
1:11:20
bounce back and grab him around. Won't be later than that.
1:11:22
No, not me either. I'd rather have a lot more
1:11:24
goalies than him, and I'm also not drafting any.
1:11:26
Anyways, let's go to the next one.
1:11:28
Arm Dog on Discord asked what do you keep?
1:11:29
Natus or Matthew could Chuck in a keep forever league.
1:11:32
I thought that was a really good.
1:11:33
Question and I keep forever. I feel like give me Matthew
1:11:39
Cochran and I. Think for our with our league
1:11:43
settings. I'm going to Chuck as well.
1:11:46
I think Chuck has. Like I love nature.
1:11:47
This is probably, yeah, nature probably has more points upside
1:11:50
than Chuck at this point, but I think it's close enough.
1:11:53
And power play wise, Kichak has the edge, Pimms Ketchup has the
1:11:56
edge, Shots has the edge, hits, he has the edge.
1:11:59
And obviously even PowerPoint, you're thinking long term power
1:12:01
play. Exactly.
1:12:03
But like, I feel like they're in similar places in their career
1:12:06
so. Has like the talismanic Ness of
1:12:10
him whereas nature is always feels like a Robin to
1:12:13
somebody's. Back, yeah, you know, 100%,
1:12:15
yeah. And I filled the Robins don't
1:12:16
survive as much on their own where, you know, could Chuck.
1:12:18
Is long-term, yeah. Could Chuck, with all his
1:12:21
injuries this year, like he still did amazing when he was on
1:12:24
the ice, right? Like even in the playoffs, we
1:12:26
saw like, you know, people were debating Florida assets.
1:12:29
Everybody's punting. Like, what do we do?
1:12:30
Like he was still like, really good.
1:12:31
He was still putting up. Numbers And that's without
1:12:33
Barkov, without Reinhardt, without like the whole team
1:12:35
being healthy so. Yeah, I wonder if some these
1:12:39
guys are going to drop in the draft next year lower than they
1:12:41
should. Yeah, hopefully it's a.
1:12:44
Yeah, I want my daddy back. On my TV, I was gonna say I'll
1:12:46
see what you get Barkov next year.
1:12:48
That's gonna be really interesting.
1:12:49
Actually. I'm very curious what his ADP is
1:12:51
gonna be. All right, last question Rich 6
1:12:53
on Discord asked what would Josh do differently next year to be
1:12:55
on the same level as Kevin and Jake?
1:12:57
I mean, that's a great question. I mean, he's got to listen to
1:12:59
more anger management clearly. All right, you know what?
1:13:02
I'll let me get my get your tinfoil hats on because my
1:13:05
conspiracy theory. OK?
1:13:07
Before we started this podcast, I had never lost their fantasy
1:13:10
hockey in my life. We've been doing the podcast for
1:13:12
two years now and I've lost both years.
1:13:14
OK, and here's my theory. Firstly, so just to give some
1:13:18
background, it was Kevin and JQ came up who came to me and were
1:13:21
like, we should do this podcast. You know, like like, like they
1:13:24
were like, we think, you know, we're great, we could do it,
1:13:26
whatever. And my first thought was, OK,
1:13:30
they they want me in this like my first like conspiracy.
1:13:32
Exactly your tinfoil hat. My first thought was they want
1:13:34
me in this because every year I threaten to quit fantasy
1:13:37
forever, even when I win, not just when I lose.
1:13:39
I'm always like, it's too much, you know, I'm too stressed,
1:13:42
blah, blah. You know, So every guy
1:13:43
threatened to quit. I was like, they're gonna do
1:13:45
this to keep me from quitting fantasy because I am gonna love
1:13:48
the podcast too much. And it worked.
1:13:50
I love the podcast too much. I love the bang gang too much.
1:13:53
I'm not going anywhere. I'm still sticking to my one
1:13:55
league pretty. I'm not looking to increase my
1:13:56
leagues, but I'm sticking to one league per year.
1:13:58
And yeah. And my, my, my threats to quit
1:14:02
are are kind of just laughed at this point because they know I
1:14:05
like the podcast too much. So that's my first part of the
1:14:07
theory. And that one is just straight up
1:14:09
true. And it worked.
1:14:10
My second part of the theory. My second, yeah, is that they
1:14:13
did it so that they can get all my secrets because I like to.
1:14:17
Obviously, we're on the pot. I'm not gonna keep my secret.
1:14:18
I'm gonna tell it all our fantastic listeners and that's
1:14:22
why they've been using it against me.
1:14:23
Look, I'll just say I've been, you know, I was the biggest 0G
1:14:26
guy right off the bat. And then now Kevin and Jake both
1:14:29
did it and they made it to the finals.
1:14:31
And then I tried not to do it because I thought, oh, they're
1:14:33
going to do it. So I'm going to mind game it and
1:14:36
2nd. Level nobody forced about GO0G.
1:14:39
No, I know, but anyways. Part of the strategy.
1:14:44
No, no, it wasn't. But then that combined with me,
1:14:46
me punting face off wins was I I was the first to do that in our
1:14:49
league to just completely like like get rid of it, and I feel
1:14:52
like you both did that this year as well.
1:14:54
Anyways, it's it's all it's. A really good face off wins team
1:14:57
to start and then he just traded all his way.
1:14:59
Yeah, anyways, that's my tinfoil hat theory is that they actually
1:15:04
learned from the best. And you know, anyways, would I
1:15:07
do differently is keep more secrets?
1:15:09
I guess I don't know, maybe I'll get tricycle injured the day
1:15:13
before. Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.
1:15:17
So, So, yeah, thank you so much for that, for that great
1:15:20
question. So that was the current league
1:15:23
of record winner and reigning champion.
1:15:26
I can say that I think you just need to listen to the podcast
1:15:30
more and take more advice from Jackie, I think because.
1:15:36
Sounds good as the as the three time champ and the the
1:15:39
winningest person in the history of our league of record who has
1:15:42
only been in the league for five years.
1:15:44
I will say that I will take those notes and try and do
1:15:47
better next year. I think Jake is gonna be Jake is
1:15:51
gonna be thrilled. Honestly, I wonder what how it's
1:15:52
gonna how it's gonna be because Josh is quote, like leaving our
1:15:56
league of record to make a new league of record with the banker
1:15:59
management community next season, which obviously me and
1:16:03
Jake will be in. And hopefully we might get some
1:16:05
other like, you know, hockey content creators in the league
1:16:08
with us on the top league, the domain, the league of record
1:16:11
league. I will say with some of the
1:16:12
listeners as well that people are always fighting to get into
1:16:16
a promotion and relegation and all that, but then our current
1:16:19
league of record will just be me and Jakey left remaining.
1:16:23
So it's going to be interesting to see how how that plays out.
1:16:27
I think the competition level is going to get the way worse
1:16:29
because obviously Josh was a big part of a big part of it.
1:16:31
I feel like the whole season is just me and Josh kind of
1:16:33
battling it out until the playoffs it.
1:16:37
Does feel like it sometimes. Just along for the ride.
1:16:40
And then he ends up making the finals, just losing to whoever
1:16:42
makes it there. But maybe, maybe now the the
1:16:47
Karmas change and Jackie can finally have a the league of
1:16:51
record to win. Or maybe he'll recruit somebody
1:16:53
else that's gonna beat him. Who knows?
1:16:54
Yeah, that's it. I mean, he recruited both of us
1:16:56
when he both beat him in the finals.
1:16:57
So definitely, definitely hope that me leaving could help his
1:17:01
odds. Doesn't make them better,
1:17:03
doesn't make them worse. Sorry.
1:17:04
So there you go. Yeah, for sure.
1:17:07
But on that note, this was the last episode of the 20252026
1:17:14
Fantasy Hockey season for the ratings.
1:17:17
The current season like this is hopefully you guys listening to
1:17:20
this as you're about to win your championships.
1:17:22
That would be amazing. If you do, please let us know in
1:17:24
the discord. We're gonna take, I would say
1:17:27
like maybe a two week break from this moment of as soon as this
1:17:31
episode airs, maybe like 10 to 14 days until our next episode
1:17:35
comes out. So if you've made it this far,
1:17:36
you've been listening all season.
1:17:37
We really appreciate it. Time for a small mini break for
1:17:40
us to mentally reset and back to the action right after covering
1:17:44
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1:18:00
And obviously join the Discord community because that's where
1:18:02
we're going to be talking about all the anger management
1:18:04
community leagues and everything like that.
1:18:05
Like we're gonna be talking about it in the Discord.
1:18:08
So that's the place to be if you want to be in on the action next
1:18:10
season. I think it's gonna be like, I
1:18:12
know there's some other hockey leagues out there with other
1:18:15
podcasts and stuff and a lot of those are right, but ours is
1:18:18
going to be the best. I think you got 2 minds here.
1:18:22
Plus, Jackie's working on it, and we're gonna come up with the
1:18:27
best system. It's gonna be so much fun.
1:18:29
It's going to be really awesome. And yeah, so if you're not in
1:18:31
the Discord yet, unfortunately that is going to be the main way
1:18:34
to find out about all this and and you know, like get into it
1:18:38
and so also. Possibly want episodes but like
1:18:40
the scores? Were Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:18:42
That's like the money the sausage gets.
1:18:46
Whatever. I don't know exactly.
1:18:48
Where the sheep get sheared, you know.
1:18:50
Exactly. Exactly.
1:18:54
Alright, wow, end of the end of the season.
1:18:57
It's bittersweet. Yeah, there were.
1:18:59
What a ride it was. And on that note, ending the
1:19:03
ride in true Harry Potter fashion, triple Decker bus.
1:19:07
Take it away, Ernie. Um, Barbara bound bound banger
1:19:13
management fantasy hockey podcast.
1:19:15
Woo woo. Room for geeky ghostly.
1:19:23
Here in spirit.