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- 0:20Speaker 1: I do think the starters are going to get more
- 0:23Speaker 1: runway uh in this second slash third preseason game at Jacksonville.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Offensive lead defensively all of them and frankly the first
- 0:35Speaker 1: that you know, your regular special teams guys need the
- 0:38Speaker 1: reps to Like I know, there's a tendency I think
- 0:42Speaker 1: in a lot of the preseason games early on, you know,
- 0:45Speaker 1: you get you get the way down the roster guys
- 0:48Speaker 1: in their covering kicks and punts. But but you've got
- 0:51Speaker 1: to get some good reps for your teams guys too.
- 0:55Speaker 2: That's show Person on the Panthers Collective podcast with Dunk
- 1:01Speaker 2: at Dunk on Demand on Twitter.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Joe Person.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Of course, the athletic Sheena apparently wasn't on this week
- 1:07Speaker 2: Bone because she got stuck in traffic on the way
- 1:09Speaker 2: back from Jacksonville. Apparently there's some traffic headaches coming back
- 1:13Speaker 2: from Jacksonville.
- 1:14Speaker 3: But that's Joe.
- 1:15Speaker 2: He expects to see Bone more of the starters in
- 1:18Speaker 2: all three phases this week than last week.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Give it to Me Baby, Give it to Me Baby.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Wasn't that a song Give it to Me? That was offspring?
- 1:29Speaker 3: Give it to Me Baby? Pretty fine for awake guy.
- 1:33Speaker 3: That's what it was. That's what it was.
- 1:35Speaker 4: See yesterday was was all Magan Bow don't know hip
- 1:39Speaker 4: hop that well? Iud of Bone get fifty. I mixed
- 1:43Speaker 4: up right there though, is when the pressure's not on,
- 1:46Speaker 4: we're back to what we do here on this. There
- 1:48Speaker 4: you go, baby, I don't know about you. I got
- 1:49Speaker 4: a lot of praise from my performance in Walker's Hip
- 1:51Speaker 4: Hop Quiz.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I got about you.
- 1:53Speaker 4: I did not get I got invitations removed not a
- 1:59Speaker 4: long time and is not talking to me right now
- 2:01Speaker 4: for some reason over this.
- 2:02Speaker 3: I I, oh, man, that's a lot.
- 2:04Speaker 4: I hate to see it, Bone, I hate to see
- 2:05Speaker 4: it just because, go shorty, it's your birthday. I got
- 2:09Speaker 4: that mixed up with you.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Hey, it could happen to any aging white man, you
- 2:14Speaker 2: know what I mean? They could I am. I am
- 2:17Speaker 2: a next level white, all right, so next level white.
- 2:21Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll talk as the show goes on. I
- 2:23Speaker 2: want to have a conversation Bone about the game tonight.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Jacksonville Liam Cohen said, Hey, I might not play our starters.
- 2:29Speaker 2: We got a lot of guys hurt, and I might
- 2:31Speaker 2: not want to send out just part of a starting lineup.
- 2:34Speaker 2: So it may be Panthers ones against the twos, and
- 2:38Speaker 2: if that's the case, I'm just gonna say this, they
- 2:41Speaker 2: better go out there and give them.
- 2:42Speaker 3: That damn work.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Like if you're going against Tuesdanight Panther starters and you
- 2:47Speaker 2: don't give them the damn business, I'm going to join
- 2:50Speaker 2: the Texters in complete panic. I'm going to join you
- 2:56Speaker 2: in misery because that if they get backups tonight, Bone,
- 3:01Speaker 2: they got to show out, dude.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to. Uh, They've got to win this scoreboard,
- 3:07Speaker 4: I believe and nominate. If that's how it plays out,
- 3:10Speaker 4: this can be a Trevid Wallace versus Arizona situation where
- 3:14Speaker 4: we looked at it at that time as why as
- 3:16Speaker 4: Trevid Wallace was a starter struggling against the way down
- 3:20Speaker 4: the line Cardinals.
- 3:21Speaker 3: But this one's gonna be different. It's gonna be every
- 3:23Speaker 3: one of the stars saying that the reaction was, how
- 3:26Speaker 3: can you do that? Tonight?
- 3:27Speaker 4: Would be ten times worse. If the whole team goes
- 3:29Speaker 4: out there, it plays the backups.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Down to that level, all right. I do not know Bone,
- 3:34Speaker 2: if the rough pup. I do not think the rough
- 3:37Speaker 2: preseason performance against the Bills or the rough first forty
- 3:41Speaker 2: five minutes or so of the joint practice. I don't
- 3:44Speaker 2: think that has anything to do with the Athletics' latest
- 3:49Speaker 2: model that does not like the panthers. I mean I
- 3:53Speaker 2: thought I thought Instagram models didn't like Flounders.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Oh, I mean these computer models do not like the
- 3:59Speaker 4: pants at all. Man down, Man down. I'm sorry, Flounder.
- 4:03Speaker 4: That one just popped into my head. Floundy, so I
- 4:06Speaker 4: couldn't turn that down. Flounder's just sitting there eating his breakfast,
- 4:09Speaker 4: yelling at somebody on Twitter, you gotta take him out
- 4:11Speaker 4: like that Flounders COmON sitting there in his long John underwear,
- 4:14Speaker 4: eating some damn cheerios, just trying to get his day started.
- 4:18Speaker 3: I met.
- 4:19Speaker 2: But anyway, that was there for me. I had to
- 4:21Speaker 2: take that opportunity. But can be a long John guy?
- 4:24Speaker 3: It is.
- 4:25Speaker 4: I don't know why I said that. Does anybody under
- 4:27Speaker 4: seventy wear long John's? Why did I say that? And
- 4:30Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense? I have a pair if it
- 4:33Speaker 4: gets a blow twenty hell all right? Anyway, like you
- 4:37Speaker 4: can wear sweatpants. I don't understand. I never understood the
- 4:40Speaker 4: long John underwear thing. But anyway, let's talk about this.
- 4:44Speaker 4: So Austin Mock is the guy that does all these
- 4:46Speaker 4: computer models for the Athletic, and the computer model BONE
- 4:53Speaker 4: was ranking and projecting the teams in the NFC. They
- 4:59Speaker 4: project the the Panthers Bone with the fifteenth best record
- 5:04Speaker 4: in the NFC. What the only team Bone that has
- 5:08Speaker 4: less projected wins than them according to this computer model
- 5:12Speaker 4: that the Athletic uses is the Arizona Cardinals. Other than that,
- 5:17Speaker 4: every last team is projected to have more wins than us,
- 5:21Speaker 4: where it's six point seven projected wins.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Bone, is your actual models doing the model?
- 5:25Speaker 4: Like? What is this thing that seems like way far
- 5:29Speaker 4: the other? What is I thought you were gonna say,
- 5:31Speaker 4: fifty to the NFL. I'll thought, yeah, it's kind of
- 5:34Speaker 4: the neighborhood they reside in, by a lot. Fifty to
- 5:37Speaker 4: the NFC. It's crazy. So that's insane.
- 5:40Speaker 2: So here's the explanation, all right, And I want to
- 5:43Speaker 2: talk about this. Is this like is a season like
- 5:46Speaker 2: this possible?
- 5:47Speaker 3: Is this like?
- 5:48Speaker 2: What is our floor? Because this just seems like an
- 5:52Speaker 2: extremely low floor. If we're the if we are the
- 5:55Speaker 2: second worst team in the NFC, we are all going
- 5:57Speaker 2: to be acting like those preseason Texters last we'll be
- 6:00Speaker 2: losing it right, rightfully, So all right, so let me
- 6:03Speaker 2: read this the rationale, So Austin Mock writes, and then
- 6:07Speaker 2: there's the first to worst Carolina Panthers. That's right a
- 6:11Speaker 2: year after they conquered in air quotes.
- 6:13Speaker 4: Because he needs to be funny because I don't know, Bone,
- 6:15Speaker 4: if you know, we only won eight games and we
- 6:16Speaker 4: backed in.
- 6:17Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's told you that. But he
- 6:19Speaker 2: says a year after they conquered air quotes the division
- 6:21Speaker 2: at eight to nine. My model forecast a division worse
- 6:25Speaker 2: six point seven wins for the Panthers in twenty twenty six.
- 6:29Speaker 2: That's partially because of a difficult schedule, but mostly because
- 6:33Speaker 2: the model isn't a fan of quarterback Bryce Young, especially
- 6:38Speaker 2: if his offensive line isn't healthy.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Remember they lost left.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Tackle Iki Ikwanu to a knee injury late last year,
- 6:46Speaker 2: and right tackle Taylor Moten is out for an extended
- 6:50Speaker 2: period with the blood plot in his lung. So the
- 6:54Speaker 2: three reasons given for this computer model having the Panthers
- 6:59Speaker 2: worse than the division second worst in the conference is
- 7:04Speaker 2: difficult schedule, don't believe in Bryce Young, an offensive line issues,
- 7:11Speaker 2: health issues, what do you think about those three?
- 7:15Speaker 4: I mean, are there are legitimate points to be made
- 7:17Speaker 4: on any of these three concerns. I mean, the schedule
- 7:19Speaker 4: is harder on paper. We don't know what that means
- 7:22Speaker 4: for the duration of the season for any of these teams.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I absolutely think.
- 7:25Speaker 4: The offensive line right now is showing the depth that
- 7:28Speaker 4: they put there because they have free Wing, they have
- 7:30Speaker 4: Rachied Walker, and at some point Nikki and Moen will
- 7:34Speaker 4: come back. The guard depth is not great, but I
- 7:37Speaker 4: don't really I actually think that they for losing Mac
- 7:41Speaker 4: two tackles, it's not as as big a concern as
- 7:44Speaker 4: it would be for some teams. We're not freaking out.
- 7:47Speaker 4: I trust Walker to a certain degree. Free Wing's going
- 7:49Speaker 4: to take his lumps, but that's our guy of the
- 7:51Speaker 4: future on the offensive line. So yeah, it's not ideal
- 7:54Speaker 4: to lose your tackles, But how many teams can lose
- 7:57Speaker 4: both tackles and feel like, all right, I think we
- 7:59Speaker 4: can make this work.
- 8:00Speaker 3: All right?
- 8:00Speaker 4: To me, that's a good thing and a good job
- 8:02Speaker 4: by Dan Morgan to have depth up there. So where
- 8:05Speaker 4: where are where are the Falcons, Washington and the Giants
- 8:08Speaker 4: on here? Because those are teams immediately that. I don't
- 8:12Speaker 4: think the Panthers should be below in any model situation.
- 8:14Speaker 4: I'll have to look at those are just some of them,
- 8:15Speaker 4: thinking about top of my head. I'll have to look
- 8:17Speaker 4: this up.
- 8:17Speaker 2: This texter says, of course, models don't like Bryce, models
- 8:21Speaker 2: don't like short guys. No, this is a computer model.
- 8:23Speaker 2: I don't know if that that might be a well
- 8:24Speaker 2: played joke. Actually, but if that isn't a well played joke,
- 8:27Speaker 2: we're talking about computer models.
- 8:29Speaker 3: If it is a well played joke, I tipped my hat.
- 8:31Speaker 4: Gigi Hadi didn't do this in formula.
- 8:34Speaker 3: And this is not new.
- 8:36Speaker 2: For whatever reason, these computer are you know, air quote models.
- 8:40Speaker 2: They have been very harsh on the Panthers this off season,
- 8:44Speaker 2: and like you can't get mad at the writer even
- 8:47Speaker 2: though you want to, because they just say, oh, it's
- 8:49Speaker 2: the computer models. I just type things up, put I
- 8:52Speaker 2: enter the data, they spin out. The Carolina Panthers are
- 8:55Speaker 2: gonna stink. As far as the teams you're asking about,
- 8:58Speaker 2: let me see this here, because they do have a
- 9:00Speaker 2: like a grid of all sixteen All right, here we go.
- 9:05Speaker 2: So you asked about the Falcons. They are at seven
- 9:07Speaker 2: point one wins, so they're point four ahead of us.
- 9:09Speaker 2: We're at six point seven projected wins. Okay, who else
- 9:12Speaker 2: you're asking about? Washington and the Giants? I don't see
- 9:15Speaker 2: being the Giants seven point one. So they also are
- 9:18Speaker 2: just point four projected wins ahead of us, and then
- 9:21Speaker 2: Washington is tenth in the conference seven point six wins.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Get those teams behind the Panthers. Also the Skikings at
- 9:30Speaker 4: eight point seven wins. That's another one, Kyler Murray, Yeah, yeah,
- 9:33Speaker 4: that's the other one. There are a lot of good
- 9:36Speaker 4: teams in the NFC, But to put those ones there
- 9:39Speaker 4: ahead of the Panthers, I believe that's a bunch of
- 9:41Speaker 4: hogwalks there. In the schedule stuff, We've talked about it
- 9:43Speaker 4: a lot. Yes, it is tougher on paper, but Mac,
- 9:47Speaker 4: how often in August does the schedule resemble anything to
- 9:52Speaker 4: what we thought? When we get to app October, November, December.
- 9:55Speaker 4: You can look out maybe the first three or four
- 9:57Speaker 4: games and it may make sense sometimes after that. How
- 10:01Speaker 4: do we know last year Seattle was on the schedule, right,
- 10:04Speaker 4: we thought, Wow, Seattle, that's a team that the Panthers
- 10:08Speaker 4: could be towards the end. Did we know that they'd
- 10:10Speaker 4: be a Juggernaut. By the time we got to them,
- 10:12Speaker 4: they'd go win a championship. It can change either way.
- 10:15Speaker 4: These schedules. We have no idea New England last year,
- 10:18Speaker 4: do we know that they were going to make a
- 10:19Speaker 4: Super Bowl run. This is a crazy league where the
- 10:23Speaker 4: schedule may look one way in August. To talk to
- 10:25Speaker 4: me a month from now, maybe completely different. Well, last season,
- 10:28Speaker 4: various things happened. Just look at last year's schedule.
- 10:31Speaker 2: It's projected to be one of the easiest in the
- 10:32Speaker 2: NFL based off twenty twenty four opponent records. Last year,
- 10:36Speaker 2: once the schedule played out, the Panthers actually played the
- 10:39Speaker 2: eighth toughest schedule in the entire league. You go, so
- 10:42Speaker 2: if they can win the division playing the eighth toughest
- 10:44Speaker 2: schedule in the entire league. I know a lot of
- 10:46Speaker 2: the different you know, like rankings have us as a
- 10:49Speaker 2: top five difficult schedule this year, But what if that
- 10:52Speaker 2: thing ticks down bone to where it's the twelfth toughest schedule, right,
- 10:55Speaker 2: what if it ticks down where it's the fifteenth toughest schedule.
- 10:58Speaker 2: We can't win the division with a schedule that statistically
- 11:01Speaker 2: could like it's possible. It ends up being harder than
- 11:04Speaker 2: based on opponent's record, than last year's played out. And
- 11:07Speaker 2: so I just the schedule stuff. To your point, I
- 11:10Speaker 2: just you don't know. We gotta let this thing play out.
- 11:13Speaker 4: Last year when we were going win loss, win loss.
- 11:16Speaker 4: Did we have the Panthers winning at green Bay last year?
- 11:19Speaker 4: I don't think so. That was one where we said
- 11:20Speaker 4: definitely no. I don't think we thought that the week
- 11:22Speaker 4: of the game. Did we have the Panthers mac Losington
- 11:24Speaker 4: New Orleans not once, but twites last year? Absolutely. So
- 11:28Speaker 4: there's games on the schedule that will be harder. There'll
- 11:32Speaker 4: be games that are easier. There'll be games where the
- 11:34Speaker 4: Panthers may jump up and win a road game. That's
- 11:37Speaker 4: they may go win at Philadelphia. Oh my god, they
- 11:39Speaker 4: will now one, and who knows they could lose a
- 11:41Speaker 4: game down the line.
- 11:42Speaker 3: We don't.
- 11:43Speaker 4: This is the NFL projecting where these teams will be
- 11:46Speaker 4: down the line is impossiutiles.
- 11:50Speaker 2: It is, There's no doubt about it. So what do
- 11:53Speaker 2: you guys think when you hear that this at Theathletic
- 11:56Speaker 2: dot Com computer model has the Panthers projected at six
- 11:59Speaker 2: point seven wins, fifteenth in the league. The only thing,
- 12:02Speaker 2: the thing I hate about this Bone is now here.
- 12:04Speaker 2: We are once again the Bryce shouters and doubters Bone
- 12:09Speaker 2: are invigorated, right, they are emboldened because it literally says
- 12:14Speaker 2: in there that one of the reasons why is schedule.
- 12:17Speaker 2: One of the reasons why is O line injuries. And
- 12:19Speaker 2: then another reason why is our model does not like
- 12:23Speaker 2: Bryce Young. So now we have to deal with that.
- 12:25Speaker 4: But if he was good enough to win the division
- 12:27Speaker 4: last year, you know what I'm saying, I don't tell
- 12:31Speaker 4: We're not on here telling you is the reincarnation of
- 12:33Speaker 4: Joe Montana. But he has gotten incrementally better each year.
- 12:38Speaker 4: He still guys, you know, we still want to see
- 12:40Speaker 4: more growth and more improvement. I would argue his defense
- 12:43Speaker 4: is going to help him win games. Who doesn't think
- 12:46Speaker 4: this defense is going to be better? Although Bone, they
- 12:49Speaker 4: better play better tonight than they did in the first
- 12:51Speaker 4: damn hour of the joint practice the other day. But
- 12:55Speaker 4: the defense will make it easier on him. He won't
- 12:57Speaker 4: have to do you would COmON sense would say, we
- 13:00Speaker 4: won't have to score as many points, do as many
- 13:02Speaker 4: things to win games. You know. Oh and oh, by
- 13:05Speaker 4: the way, Team Mac will make a leap and Cocher
- 13:08Speaker 4: is healthy to start the season. That's a huge deal
- 13:11Speaker 4: for Bryce Young. Keep that in mind as well. They
- 13:13Speaker 4: made the playoffs last year, albeit not the record that
- 13:16Speaker 4: we would say, hey, do that all the time, but
- 13:18Speaker 4: they made something out of that season with t Mac
- 13:21Speaker 4: as a rookie and Cocher not playing from nearly half
- 13:24Speaker 4: the year. We don't think that those guys natural progression
- 13:28Speaker 4: of Team Mac. Cocher being healthy, we don't think that
- 13:31Speaker 4: elevates the game of Bryce Young as well. So if
- 13:34Speaker 4: we like the wide receivers, it feels like Mac Dad.
- 13:37Speaker 4: A lot of people on the text line there Bryce haters,
- 13:39Speaker 4: they really like the wide receivers. Well, guess who is
- 13:42Speaker 4: going to get that ball to the wide receivers that
- 13:44Speaker 4: you like? It's Bryce Young. I mean, the Bryce.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Shouters even appeared during our Team Mac appreciation segment yesterday
- 13:50Speaker 2: when we're talking about what kind of numbers can he
- 13:52Speaker 2: put up this year and what's this ceiling as a player,
- 13:55Speaker 2: and we're all excited about Team Mac and then all
- 13:57Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Bryce Shouters bone just show up.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Argin. It's like uninvited guess at a party, Fitty, you know,
- 14:03Speaker 3: what I mean, you.
- 14:03Speaker 4: Sitting there and join the dip and joining some conversation,
- 14:07Speaker 4: and next thing you know, Bryce haters barge into the
- 14:09Speaker 4: damn party.
- 14:10Speaker 3: It's like cowboy fans at a super Bowl party.
- 14:12Speaker 5: Or me at a woman's house.
- 14:15Speaker 3: Who invited him.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Oh all right, let me read some of these texts
- 14:19Speaker 2: real quick and see what we have here. Seven O
- 14:21Speaker 2: four number. I love the computer model crapping on our team.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Let him sleep on us. O line is hurt, but
- 14:28Speaker 2: defense should be much improved. Let's see here. Brian says,
- 14:34Speaker 2: I am getting so tired of all the negative stuff
- 14:36Speaker 2: out there about this team. It feels like nobody believes
- 14:41Speaker 2: in us after what we did last year. It's frustrating.
- 14:45Speaker 2: And then even more frustrating is the team appears to
- 14:49Speaker 2: be validating it. Yeah, I mean last Saturday wasn't good.
- 14:55Speaker 2: The other day was dy. At least showed up for
- 14:58Speaker 2: the second half of that scrimmage. It sounds like they
- 15:01Speaker 2: made things pretty even by the time it was done.
- 15:03Speaker 2: But yes, it just goes back to the point bone.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I think our panther minds could really use a fun
- 15:09Speaker 2: night tonight. Oh you know, yes, I think I think
- 15:12Speaker 2: we really do.
- 15:14Speaker 4: That's a question we have asked many times, and I
- 15:16Speaker 4: think we even asked this during the Cam years as well.
- 15:20Speaker 4: I think this was asked during the Jake years as well.
- 15:22Speaker 4: Why do so many Panther fans hate on their own quarterback?
- 15:26Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cam one was really bad. At least Bryce.
- 15:29Speaker 2: We understand bone that Bryce is it's still to be determined.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Is he going to be the guy?
- 15:35Speaker 6: Now?
- 15:35Speaker 2: I would point out how much better he's gotten each year.
- 15:37Speaker 2: I'd put out some of the stretches he's had. I
- 15:39Speaker 2: believe Bone, what is it last ten games in twenty
- 15:41Speaker 2: twenty four, last eight games last year? Where the stats
- 15:45Speaker 2: look pretty damn good during that sample, and you start
- 15:48Speaker 2: feeling like, if he can make a full season like that,
- 15:51Speaker 2: he's the guy. But the Cam thing never made sense
- 15:54Speaker 2: to me, and I don't want to get I don't
- 15:56Speaker 2: want to get back into an ugly discussion, But there
- 15:59Speaker 2: were there were none football elements at play, and people
- 16:03Speaker 2: not liking camde I just had drove me freaking insane.
- 16:05Speaker 4: I just happened to see this right now from ESPN
- 16:08Speaker 4: Insights Twitter feed. T Mac last year had thirty three
- 16:12Speaker 4: catches on passes ten plus yards down the field. The
- 16:16Speaker 4: only rookies with more such catches in the last fifteen
- 16:18Speaker 4: years were Olave, who had thirty seven to twenty twenty two,
- 16:22Speaker 4: and Justin Jefferson, who had thirty six in twenty twenty.
- 16:26Speaker 4: By the way, those passes were coming from Bryce Young.
- 16:29Speaker 4: Just FYI I had more coming this year.
- 16:30Speaker 2: I would be shock bone if they don't connect more
- 16:33Speaker 2: in the intermediate in the deep areas this year. Yes,
- 16:36Speaker 2: I would be totally shocked by it. Seven oh four
- 16:39Speaker 2: numbers says why the hell's mac always get bothered by
- 16:43Speaker 2: these stupid computers and media members? Who cares what they say?
- 16:48Speaker 3: Bothered? Do I sound bothered? Bone? Do I sound bothered?
- 16:51Speaker 3: I don't think he sound bothered. I don't know. I
- 16:53Speaker 3: just we just got to play football.
- 16:54Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, it's not mentally healthy for me
- 16:57Speaker 2: to become this emotionally worked up. And I'd like to
- 17:00Speaker 2: think if I didn't have a radio show outlet where
- 17:02Speaker 2: I'd get myself into a lather, I would like to
- 17:05Speaker 2: think I would chill out about this.
- 17:07Speaker 3: What would you do all that? But I don't know.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Maybe I wouldn't.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Maybe I would just screambone to my family about sports.
- 17:12Speaker 2: If I didn't have this outlet? Do you want to
- 17:13Speaker 2: end on a celebrity text back?
- 17:14Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, who are these who are these models you
- 17:17Speaker 3: speak of? Since here we found or pack? Now here
- 17:19Speaker 3: you go?
- 17:19Speaker 2: Flown, baby, there you go, there you go. Disregard that
- 17:22Speaker 2: joke earlier flown? Okay, disregard that? Would we come back?
- 17:27Speaker 4: How chaotic are things about to get thanks to this
- 17:30Speaker 4: fifth year eligibility mess? This fiasco? And will this lead
- 17:35Speaker 4: to Wayne Kiff of building a super team and being
- 17:38Speaker 4: even more hated than he is? Sports Radio ninety two
- 17:42Speaker 4: seven WFT.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety two seven, wfn Z. Hope everybody's happening
- 18:00Speaker 2: happy Friday, even if we disagree about football things, and
- 18:03Speaker 2: in Bebop's case on the text line, Bbop, even if
- 18:06Speaker 2: we agree, disagree about everything you've texted ever to this show, sir,
- 18:11Speaker 2: hope you're having a good Friday. I hope everybody has
- 18:13Speaker 2: a good weekend. I mean, we got football here, baby,
- 18:16Speaker 2: we got football here. Week zero is a week away, Bonye.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Week one I just did the bath is two weeks away.
- 18:23Speaker 2: It's here, man. College football is so freaking close. God,
- 18:28Speaker 2: it's gonna be cool, man, It's gonna be cool to
- 18:30Speaker 2: get it back and to get those Saturday marathon sessions
- 18:34Speaker 2: going again. Bony, it's me stealing your YouTube, borrowing access
- 18:40Speaker 2: to your YouTube TV on Saturdays.
- 18:42Speaker 4: For the multiview. We're back, baby, yeah. Multiview. This is
- 18:47Speaker 4: where this is where it really pays. I remember last
- 18:49Speaker 4: year at one point I had the two TV setup
- 18:52Speaker 4: and the multiviews on both TVs. I had eight games
- 18:54Speaker 4: going on once last year and that got to the
- 18:57Speaker 4: point where I said, my brain is on my brain is.
- 18:59Speaker 2: That's I would go five. I go one on the
- 19:02Speaker 2: side TV and then multiview, so I would do five.
- 19:05Speaker 3: I had sad. This is sad.
- 19:08Speaker 4: Well, I'm almost friends. One multiview setup MAC was the
- 19:12Speaker 4: games that for here, like the games that my teams
- 19:15Speaker 4: or actually Suth Carolina Duke are on their own TV
- 19:18Speaker 4: like that's they don't get multiview. They get their own
- 19:21Speaker 4: special like full screen. But when other teams are on
- 19:24Speaker 4: locally that I need to pay attention to, they get
- 19:26Speaker 4: their own multiview box depending on the setup over here
- 19:30Speaker 4: on my other TV. That's the that's the gambling side
- 19:34Speaker 4: of the multi v okay. I respect that other games
- 19:36Speaker 4: that may not pertain to hear, but I may have
- 19:39Speaker 4: a little bit of coinage on it. So that's that's
- 19:44Speaker 4: the gambling. I guarantee you're not alone. How many you
- 19:46Speaker 4: know what I mean?
- 19:46Speaker 3: How much? How much of a reason behind ratings.
- 19:48Speaker 2: For football at all college and pro is because I
- 19:51Speaker 2: have bets on it or at the NFL fantasys, things
- 19:54Speaker 2: like that.
- 19:55Speaker 3: So I get that. I did want to mention something.
- 19:57Speaker 4: That I have a girlfriend this football season and one
- 20:00Speaker 4: of the TV's might be.
- 20:01Speaker 3: More on uh.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Other other shows, Love Island and stuff. Oh that's our
- 20:06Speaker 2: show man Love After Lock Up? Shit into that one?
- 20:10Speaker 3: That was mine? Oh?
- 20:11Speaker 2: Sure show anyway, Just a quick thought about women and
- 20:16Speaker 2: the way we watch sports. Does anybody out there actually
- 20:20Speaker 2: have a woman in their life?
- 20:21Speaker 3: Girlfriend? Wife? Whatever? Do you have it?
- 20:26Speaker 6: Not?
- 20:26Speaker 3: I'm not asking if you have a woman in your life,
- 20:27Speaker 3: that's not the question. Do you have.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Said?
- 20:30Speaker 2: Nah, do you have a Does anybody have a woman
- 20:33Speaker 2: in their life that actually like sits down and likes
- 20:36Speaker 2: the multiview type game watching? Because it's like my wife
- 20:40Speaker 2: hates I. I've heard from so many friends and people
- 20:44Speaker 2: listening like, who's whose wives or girlfriends hate it? It
- 20:47Speaker 2: seems we have so many differences, right you have the book.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. I think
- 20:52Speaker 2: our brains work differently, whereas I just I love having
- 20:57Speaker 2: all this different stuff at once.
- 20:58Speaker 4: Bounce my eyes here over there. But I'm not sure
- 21:02Speaker 4: the female brain wants to deal with that crap.
- 21:04Speaker 3: I haven't know.
- 21:05Speaker 4: I had an x MAC that it made her too
- 21:07Speaker 4: dizzy on the multiview, so I had to like, I
- 21:09Speaker 4: had to kind of like especially when it's like three
- 21:11Speaker 4: or four boxes. When it was two, it seems like
- 21:13Speaker 4: it was okay. When he got to three or four,
- 21:16Speaker 4: and then they sometimes they don't know where the sound
- 21:19Speaker 4: is coming from either, right, So there's one game going
- 21:21Speaker 4: on and that's not the sound game. So it's also
- 21:24Speaker 4: kind of hard and difficult for someone that doesn't know
- 21:26Speaker 4: which which announcers are currently on the screen, because you
- 21:29Speaker 4: got four games going on at once.
- 21:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I love it. I'd be curious how many.
- 21:33Speaker 2: And maybe there's women listening to the show right now
- 21:36Speaker 2: or they're like I love the multi via dufis, So anyway,
- 21:38Speaker 2: I'm curious, feel FREEX red zone about that red zone
- 21:41Speaker 2: If you're not you red zone, that could Christina doesn't
- 21:45Speaker 2: even like red zone. She just wants one game on
- 21:47Speaker 2: like she just wants to watch the panther game and
- 21:49Speaker 2: then the other stuff she really care about. But yes,
- 21:51Speaker 2: she doesn't like the bounce around. Now, Mama Mac, Mama
- 21:54Speaker 2: Mack loves the freaking red zone.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Eighty one years old. Man, she's sitting there. Take me
- 21:59Speaker 3: to take me to this game, Take me to that game.
- 22:02Speaker 4: People are saying, my accident, that means does that mean Mabel? No,
- 22:06Speaker 4: Mabel Maybell just slept through the whole entire day. All right,
- 22:09Speaker 4: let's talk about this time. That's a junkie right now
- 22:12Speaker 4: about it.
- 22:12Speaker 2: No, she's crazy hating on Fernando Mendoza during a preseason game.
- 22:15Speaker 2: She is passionate, all right, So let's talk about this
- 22:21Speaker 2: mess with the fifth year eligibility for the class of
- 22:24Speaker 2: two twenty twenty two people, especially the football aspect of this. Right,
- 22:30Speaker 2: because I've been reading so much about this and there's
- 22:32Speaker 2: so many like tentacles and like ways that this thing
- 22:35Speaker 2: could go where it gets even more absurd, more insane.
- 22:39Speaker 2: So I just want to like talk through this thing, Bony.
- 22:42Speaker 2: So obviously this thing is is really taking off because
- 22:46Speaker 2: of that Louisiana court order where thirty plus athletes sixteen
- 22:49Speaker 2: of them are former college football players. They won their
- 22:53Speaker 2: their case in a Louisiana court where they should be
- 22:58Speaker 2: able to be eligible and get what would their fifth
- 23:00Speaker 2: year playing in their fifth year. Back in May, the
- 23:05Speaker 2: NCUBLEA made a rule change where instead of having five
- 23:08Speaker 2: years to play four years of eligibility and having like
- 23:11Speaker 2: a red shirt year, you have five years also, but
- 23:14Speaker 2: there's no red shirts. There's just if you could play
- 23:18Speaker 2: five years, you can play all five seasons. So the
- 23:21Speaker 2: NCAA made that court ruling bone in May, or made
- 23:25Speaker 2: that new rule in May. Everybody with a brain could
- 23:30Speaker 2: see this coming that this would be challenged in the courts,
- 23:34Speaker 2: except the nc DOUBLEA apparently that this would be challenging
- 23:36Speaker 2: the courts, and some of the people bone that were
- 23:40Speaker 2: in the class of twenty twenty two in football basketball
- 23:43Speaker 2: that they would want to challenge it in courts. So
- 23:47Speaker 2: you had an Ohio case that was like, you know,
- 23:50Speaker 2: a specific group of athletes that was won by the
- 23:54Speaker 2: athletes to be granted a fifth year. You had the
- 23:57Speaker 2: Colorado case that is a blanket that covers everybody. They
- 24:00Speaker 2: ruled in favor of the athletes, although that one's being
- 24:03Speaker 2: appealed by the NCAA, and Pete Hamill said the appeals
- 24:07Speaker 2: expected literally like any day, and that could change things
- 24:10Speaker 2: a bit. And then you had this Louisiana court case.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Apparently there's a separate Louisiana case and the exact same
- 24:17Speaker 2: baton Rouge Court court with a different judge. And I
- 24:20Speaker 2: was listening to Dan Murphy of ESPN. He said bone
- 24:24Speaker 2: that it's possible that judge rules differently against that group
- 24:28Speaker 2: of athletes, same court, so much exact same court. So,
- 24:31Speaker 2: I mean, this stuff is crazy. What do you think.
- 24:35Speaker 4: We thought this was a crazy sport before all this
- 24:38Speaker 4: fifth year stuff started.
- 24:39Speaker 3: This is on top of the chaos we.
- 24:42Speaker 4: Already the nilal, the nil, everything that's crazy in college athletics.
- 24:47Speaker 4: Now you throw on this and we always say there's
- 24:49Speaker 4: stuff that comes up bat that we can never foresee coming.
- 24:52Speaker 4: I did not realize we'd have players playing in the
- 24:55Speaker 4: preseason getting sacks and putting on that tape for their
- 25:00Speaker 4: potential college football team. I did not realize we'd be
- 25:02Speaker 4: doing this sort of stuff here. And my question is
- 25:05Speaker 4: I understand what's happening here. If you challenge NCAA right
- 25:08Speaker 4: now on anything, you're probably gonna win, because they have
- 25:11Speaker 4: so many things to handle that they've just almost it's
- 25:14Speaker 4: just it's almost a foregone conclusion that you're gonna win.
- 25:17Speaker 4: My question is were there was there not? There wasn't
- 25:20Speaker 4: stuff in place to stop this. Like you go, you
- 25:24Speaker 4: get drafted, you go pro, you can't come back, you
- 25:26Speaker 4: go play pro, you can't. I thought there'd be stuff
- 25:29Speaker 4: in place, and I know what's going on with the injunctions,
- 25:32Speaker 4: but I thought there would be language and stuff already in.
- 25:35Speaker 3: Place just to hey, yeah, this is not allowed. It's
- 25:38Speaker 3: in the contract.
- 25:38Speaker 2: They could try, they could try to enforce their rules,
- 25:41Speaker 2: but somebody takes it to court, and inevitably the NCAA
- 25:45Speaker 2: takes an l LA.
- 25:46Speaker 3: Has defense like the twenty twenty four Panthers, like for example, Bone.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Let's say that Colorado right the whole like blanket class
- 25:54Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two like applies to everybody. What let's
- 25:57Speaker 2: say it gets overturned here in the next day or so,
- 25:59Speaker 2: say the n CCUB wins their appeal, What do you
- 26:01Speaker 2: think those athletes are gonna do. They're gonna find a
- 26:03Speaker 2: state and they're gonna file a local, you know, specific suit,
- 26:09Speaker 2: just like the the athletes did.
- 26:10Speaker 3: In Louisiana and did in Ohio.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Like that's the thing, Like, if you don't like a ruling,
- 26:15Speaker 2: just go find another judge, find another local court. It's
- 26:17Speaker 2: just it's crazy, and you're right. Pete Thamil yesterday said
- 26:22Speaker 2: that he was talking to a personnel guy in college
- 26:25Speaker 2: football that said, I cannot believe this. I am watching
- 26:29Speaker 2: last week's preseason game tape to see if we want
- 26:32Speaker 2: to try to make an NIL offer to some of
- 26:34Speaker 2: these players who just won the eligibility that are playing
- 26:38Speaker 2: in preseason games. Like, it's just it's such a weird world, bony,
- 26:43Speaker 2: and then you have the angle like if you take
- 26:45Speaker 2: the end of it, and here's why, I like, I
- 26:46Speaker 2: don't know you could argue bone that I care way
- 26:48Speaker 2: too much about this.
- 26:49Speaker 3: It's just it's just so it's a fascinating thing. It's fascinating,
- 26:53Speaker 3: it is annoying.
- 26:53Speaker 2: It's ultimately annoying, right, the concept is ridiculous and ultimately
- 26:58Speaker 2: the ncaave it or not. They're at fault for all
- 27:01Speaker 2: of this, which we'll talk about here at the end
- 27:04Speaker 2: of this whole thing. How the NCAA could have avoided this.
- 27:07Speaker 2: But like the NFL side of this bone so this guy,
- 27:10Speaker 2: Pieburn that had two sacks for Tampa against the Jets
- 27:14Speaker 2: right last Friday, and he played at LSU last year.
- 27:17Speaker 2: He's one of the guys that sued in this Louisiana
- 27:20Speaker 2: case got his eligibility, so now he has to decide
- 27:24Speaker 2: between college football and the NFL. He signed a contract
- 27:27Speaker 2: as an undrafted free agent that gave him a HUNDERD
- 27:29Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars guaranteed, so he got that, but under
- 27:34Speaker 2: this this court case would be eligible.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Seems ridiculous, but that's okay.
- 27:39Speaker 2: So like now the talk is like, if he makes
- 27:42Speaker 2: practice squad, will he want Will he just tell the Bucks?
- 27:46Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the practice squad, give
- 27:48Speaker 2: me my release. I can go make more money in IL,
- 27:51Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, it's just weird. And
- 27:53Speaker 2: then I even saw one article saying what's to stop
- 27:56Speaker 2: his agent from telling the Bucks if you put me
- 27:57Speaker 2: on the practice squad, I'm out of here. I won't play.
- 28:01Speaker 2: So I'm not taking this pica the active roster. You know,
- 28:04Speaker 2: I'm not taking this pay cut by playing in the NFL. Mack,
- 28:07Speaker 2: is there not weird?
- 28:08Speaker 4: Man? This again, I'm just throwing this out there there's
- 28:11Speaker 4: probably a counter immediately to this. I'm just thinking on
- 28:13Speaker 4: the fly here, is there not a way to have
- 28:15Speaker 4: a college football date where the rosters have to be
- 28:19Speaker 4: set by so these guys can't jump in?
- 28:21Speaker 3: Oh?
- 28:21Speaker 2: Remember you were spose the portal's supposed to be over,
- 28:23Speaker 2: But there was one portal that ended in what January?
- 28:27Speaker 3: Fitty and I were talking about yesterday out to the
- 28:28Speaker 3: portal being.
- 28:29Speaker 2: It ended in January, But this course in Louisiana supersedes that.
- 28:32Speaker 2: So that's why you saw yesterday all those athletes, and
- 28:36Speaker 2: matter of fact, three of them. We're going to get
- 28:37Speaker 2: to the Lane Kiffin part of this, because I'm telling
- 28:40Speaker 2: you he can become even more hated here very easily.
- 28:43Speaker 2: But like Ta Kwan Wright, the tight end that's now
- 28:46Speaker 2: with the Browns, I think, right, yes, yes, And then
- 28:49Speaker 2: you have the big defensive tackle.
- 28:50Speaker 3: There's three of them.
- 28:51Speaker 2: There's three really good freaking players from all miss from
- 28:54Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin's team last year.
- 28:56Speaker 3: They're all now in the portal.
- 28:57Speaker 2: They all were, their names were all in this thing
- 29:00Speaker 2: Louisiana lawsuit. The Colorado thing though bone for whatever reason,
- 29:04Speaker 2: doesn't supersede the portal. Remember the Colorado thing is you
- 29:08Speaker 2: have to come back to your same school, but this
- 29:10Speaker 2: Louisiana one for whatever reason.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Again, I'm not smart enough to understand that it allows.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Them to enter the transfer portal and bypass the whole
- 29:17Speaker 2: NCAA portal rule thing.
- 29:19Speaker 3: So imagine this bony.
- 29:21Speaker 2: What's to stop Lane Kiffin getting from getting three of
- 29:24Speaker 2: his former Ole Miss players that are ballers to transfer
- 29:28Speaker 2: to LSU give him nil deals. Now they'll probably have
- 29:32Speaker 2: to bump three poor kids off the roster.
- 29:34Speaker 6: Like.
- 29:34Speaker 2: That's another part of this is there's people on rosters
- 29:37Speaker 2: that probably will have to be bumped on the college
- 29:39Speaker 2: side until.
- 29:40Speaker 3: They sue to get their rosters expanded. There will be lawyers.
- 29:45Speaker 2: So could you imagine if Lane Kiffin use this thing
- 29:48Speaker 2: that fans hate to his benefit?
- 29:52Speaker 4: My god, and he will and he's trying to. Meanwhile,
- 29:56Speaker 4: Greg Sakie, here's another part of this.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Greg Sankie bone filed an affi David in this this
- 30:03Speaker 2: r J. Lewis, this thing is there's so many aspects
- 30:05Speaker 2: of this. It's it's just it's insane.
- 30:09Speaker 3: R J.
- 30:09Speaker 2: Lewis is right the former Saint John's basketball player, Yep,
- 30:12Speaker 2: right now he went and was was he in the
- 30:14Speaker 2: g league.
- 30:14Speaker 4: What was he doing last year to pros Okay, So
- 30:19Speaker 4: he was Saint John stud and he's been around a
- 30:21Speaker 4: very o. So LSU wants him back, right, They want
- 30:24Speaker 4: to him back in college. They want to sign him. Well,
- 30:26Speaker 4: there's a court case going on about this in Louisiana.
- 30:29Speaker 4: It's another case and Greg Sanki filed in affi David
- 30:33Speaker 4: uh talking about the damage that would be done in
- 30:35Speaker 4: college sports if you're to allow these fifth year players
- 30:37Speaker 4: to come back, especially ones that have already played pro sports.
- 30:40Speaker 4: He says they're going to take spots on rosters away
- 30:43Speaker 4: from people. So he is arguing bone against Will Wade's LSU,
- 30:48Speaker 4: which is funny, but it's one of his schools. He's
- 30:51Speaker 4: also basically arguing against what Lane Kiffin might try to
- 30:54Speaker 4: do on football.
- 30:55Speaker 2: So like, it's all over the place. Man, it's just
- 31:00Speaker 2: freaking crazy.
- 31:01Speaker 4: And and the crazier it gets, the the more crazy
- 31:05Speaker 4: comes down the road.
- 31:05Speaker 3: So we have no idea.
- 31:06Speaker 4: I'm telling you there might be some guy that played
- 31:09Speaker 4: in the league for eight years that may say him
- 31:10Speaker 4: on the way, hey can I come play college? I
- 31:13Speaker 4: only played in college for two years or one year.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Lougan Bill was on College Football Live our guy Luke's
- 31:18Speaker 2: He said, I only played four years and I didn't
- 31:21Speaker 2: red shirt, so I played four and four. He says,
- 31:23Speaker 2: can I go back and get your eligibility? And at
- 31:25Speaker 2: first the answer is no, this only applies to the
- 31:29Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.
- 31:30Speaker 3: But if you find a.
- 31:32Speaker 4: Judge that'll rule anything, you know what I mean, Like
- 31:34Speaker 4: a judge made could could rule against the NCAA and anything.
- 31:38Speaker 4: There's a chance we may see Greg Odinson in college
- 31:40Speaker 4: basketball trying to get his star back.
- 31:42Speaker 5: Another ass, what if Perry Ellis comes and goes back
- 31:45Speaker 5: to Kansas.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Now he had to, he had to, He had to
- 31:48Speaker 3: use all his time. You think he already used five
- 31:50Speaker 3: years and feels like it he used to.
- 31:53Speaker 4: But what if he gets it and I deal with
- 31:54Speaker 4: Perry Ellis? Oh my pay a million set him back?
- 31:59Speaker 4: The How about the though too?
- 32:00Speaker 2: Sankey came out and sent a memo to all the
- 32:02Speaker 2: schools like two weeks ago, saying, remember when the portal closes,
- 32:07Speaker 2: the first portal closes, you can't go out there outside
- 32:10Speaker 2: of the transfer portal, and you can't transfer with in conference.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Remember this rule? Oh yeah, so what do we do
- 32:17Speaker 2: we think.
- 32:17Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin's gonna give a crap about that rule. No'll
- 32:19Speaker 3: challenge it.
- 32:20Speaker 4: So he'll so like you may have him going against
- 32:22Speaker 4: Sankee if he goes to get his old old miss
- 32:24Speaker 4: players that are now all of a sudden eligible in
- 32:26Speaker 4: the portal.
- 32:27Speaker 3: It's crazy.
- 32:28Speaker 2: And you said something Bone, like a few weeks ago,
- 32:31Speaker 2: you're like, how did the NCAA let this happen? And
- 32:33Speaker 2: my first thought was my first thought was, well, you know,
- 32:37Speaker 2: they're just getting mowed down in court like always. But
- 32:41Speaker 2: the more I think about this, why didn't they just
- 32:44Speaker 2: like they made the problem was they made the rule
- 32:46Speaker 2: in May when when like rosters are already set in
- 32:51Speaker 2: football and basketball, you know what I mean, Like, why
- 32:54Speaker 2: didn't they announce in May that in twenty twenty seven,
- 33:00Speaker 2: the fifth year, if that would be your fifth year
- 33:03Speaker 2: and five years you're not going to be eligible.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you say it then?
- 33:07Speaker 2: So then if you did get beat in court, like
- 33:11Speaker 2: everybody would know it was coming type thing. The thing
- 33:14Speaker 2: with this is nobody like this is happening when rosters
- 33:17Speaker 2: are set and people could lose spots. The other thing, too,
- 33:20Speaker 2: is Bone, why did the NCUBA even try this at all?
- 33:24Speaker 2: And that's one thing that I've said all along, why
- 33:26Speaker 2: couldn't they have just simply allowed just like announce twenty
- 33:31Speaker 2: twenty seven this is this would be where new rule
- 33:35Speaker 2: goes into place, and all the fifth year people will
- 33:37Speaker 2: get their fifth year people that would be their fifth
- 33:39Speaker 2: year and twenty twenty seven get there. Why couldn't they
- 33:41Speaker 2: just they could have solved themselves a lot of court issues,
- 33:44Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Why did they think they
- 33:46Speaker 2: were gonna win cases in court?
- 33:47Speaker 3: How many?
- 33:47Speaker 4: How many times when we're talking about the NC DOUBLEA
- 33:51Speaker 4: does the question why start?
- 33:53Speaker 2: Why?
- 33:54Speaker 3: Why did they do this? Why did they not do that?
- 33:56Speaker 3: Why did this happen?
- 33:57Speaker 2: It's just my god? All right, we're gonna have a
- 34:00Speaker 2: care for that segment.
- 34:01Speaker 4: We're gonna have a fun top at next, ask the audience,
- 34:03Speaker 4: what are the best fantasy football punishments ever? You're gonna
- 34:08Speaker 4: hear one? Also Sports Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
- 34:26Speaker 3: Yes it was. It was the ten k.
- 34:28Speaker 6: So you're dropped off whatever whatever distance of ten k
- 34:32Speaker 6: is and your buddies take their your credit card and
- 34:34Speaker 6: they go drinking and you have to you can't stop
- 34:38Speaker 6: them from running up the charges until you finish the
- 34:40Speaker 6: ten k and get back to the bar wherever they
- 34:42Speaker 6: are and snatch your credit card so I could do damage.
- 34:45Speaker 3: That was fun. Is fun. I think that's good.
- 34:49Speaker 2: That is Cousin sal on one of the Ringer podcasts
- 34:53Speaker 2: talking about an idea. We actually had a text from
- 34:56Speaker 2: a textra bone that is basically they said five K.
- 34:59Speaker 2: But it's basically that same ideas. I don't know if
- 35:01Speaker 2: that's like a popular one to use. That was from
- 35:05Speaker 2: the Captain from Foxcroft said, what about this idea?
- 35:09Speaker 3: You got to do a five K to get back
- 35:11Speaker 3: to the.
- 35:11Speaker 2: Bar and to stop your credit your buddies in your
- 35:15Speaker 2: league from using a credit card. We gotta have some
- 35:19Speaker 2: we gotta have some fun with this because and I
- 35:20Speaker 2: will say this bone I back when I played fantasy football,
- 35:24Speaker 2: because I hadn't played it a while when I first
- 35:25Speaker 2: got here at Charlotte, was very much into it. And
- 35:29Speaker 2: when I did that, it really wasn't in the if
- 35:32Speaker 2: you finish last place you get a silly crazy punishment era,
- 35:36Speaker 2: Like I don't really remember that being a part of things.
- 35:38Speaker 3: We didn't worry about finishing.
- 35:40Speaker 2: It's clearly clearly it's such a cool dude thing to do, though,
- 35:45Speaker 2: Like this is something that is like that makes the
- 35:50Speaker 2: barstool guys always say, Oh, that's another thing that makes
- 35:53Speaker 2: dudes great, right, ye? Like it's things like this are
- 35:58Speaker 2: so fun, like guys just wanting to embarrass someone else
- 36:01Speaker 2: because they had a worst fantasy football I'm very amused
- 36:05Speaker 2: by this, and I'm hoping because I want to do
- 36:07Speaker 2: ask the audience. I'm hoping to get some good stories.
- 36:10Speaker 2: What are the best what's the best fantasy football last
- 36:13Speaker 2: place punishment? In any of the leagues you've been in
- 36:16Speaker 2: or maybe you heard about one, like your buddy was
- 36:18Speaker 2: in a league. I just want to celebrate some of
- 36:22Speaker 2: these tremendous punishments of embarrassing your buddy.
- 36:25Speaker 4: I was thinking about starting a league this year just
- 36:27Speaker 4: to do some punishments. I don't know if you.
- 36:28Speaker 3: Want it or not.
- 36:29Speaker 4: Back there's one league I saw where the only guy
- 36:32Speaker 4: that how did it work? I think the guy that
- 36:35Speaker 4: finished first also got punished, so you wanted to finish
- 36:38Speaker 4: like second or something like. That was a weird thing
- 36:40Speaker 4: where everybody got punished, but the guy that finished like
- 36:43Speaker 4: second or third. It was a weird thing. Oh geez,
- 36:45Speaker 4: I saw one the other day that went viral. Did
- 36:47Speaker 4: you see the beans punishment? No, what was The guy
- 36:50Speaker 4: that got last place got locked in the dark closet
- 36:53Speaker 4: with only a head lamp on and he could not
- 36:55Speaker 4: come out until he finished a thousand piece baked beans
- 36:58Speaker 4: puzzle piece is the same, So we had to stay
- 37:02Speaker 4: in the closet until he finished that entire puzzle and
- 37:05Speaker 4: all he could eat, by the way, the whole day
- 37:07Speaker 4: he gonna eat beans. Also, Oh, that's brutal.
- 37:10Speaker 2: I mean the ones where you're like, I like the
- 37:13Speaker 2: ones where you're in a certain restaurant and you have
- 37:16Speaker 2: to spend time there until you eat so much food.
- 37:19Speaker 2: I mean, of course I like that when we talk
- 37:22Speaker 2: about gluttonous love of food constantly, but that one kind
- 37:25Speaker 2: of trips me out. Or spend twenty four hours in
- 37:28Speaker 2: a waffle those ones are good.
- 37:29Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember in my League with Joe Bruno Mack MFG.
- 37:33Speaker 4: The late Great mar from Goutstodio finished in last place
- 37:36Speaker 4: and he had to spend twelve hours at Eastland Mall
- 37:38Speaker 4: without leaving.
- 37:40Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
- 37:40Speaker 4: And he only spent six hours in there because he
- 37:42Speaker 4: was dressed like a cow.
- 37:43Speaker 3: He got kicked out of the mall.
- 37:47Speaker 2: U we have a texture, so if and the first
- 37:50Speaker 2: hand stories are the best. I just don't. I have
- 37:52Speaker 2: never played. You know, I stopped playing before this stuff
- 37:55Speaker 2: got going. But lord knows, I've had enough radio punishments
- 37:59Speaker 2: on bets here on the you have. You got two
- 38:01Speaker 2: tattoos to prove it, ye, So anyway, I'd love some
- 38:04Speaker 2: good stories fantasy leads you been in? What are the
- 38:07Speaker 2: best punishments? Seven O four five seven nine six said.
- 38:11Speaker 3: Did we get a story where the guy that golf
- 38:12Speaker 3: without a ball right recently?
- 38:15Speaker 5: Oh?
- 38:15Speaker 4: Yeah, that went viral. Yeah that went eighteen holes another
- 38:19Speaker 4: group without a golf with a group.
- 38:20Speaker 2: Of strangers and couldn't tell them what he was doing
- 38:24Speaker 2: and why he was doing it, So he would just
- 38:26Speaker 2: go hit a a invisible golf ball and then he
- 38:29Speaker 2: go find his visible golf ball in the fairway his
- 38:30Speaker 2: next shot, and for eighteen holes, this freaking group of
- 38:34Speaker 2: strangers had to be talking to each other like what
- 38:36Speaker 2: is wrong with this guy? So that I mean, it's
- 38:39Speaker 2: all about embarrassment. Guys like embarrassing each other. I like
- 38:44Speaker 2: embarrassing my kids, Like my dad was like that too,
- 38:46Speaker 2: Like I love, you know, to find it funny. Guys
- 38:49Speaker 2: find embarrassing others very fun. We got a guy on
- 38:52Speaker 2: the text line bone that said they hand out a
- 38:54Speaker 2: Princess Cup each year to trophy. So the guy that
- 38:58Speaker 2: finishes last in the fantasy league and for the draft
- 39:00Speaker 2: the next year, he shows up to the bar and
- 39:02Speaker 2: address you know, simple but like embarrassing. Uh So, anyway, there's.
- 39:09Speaker 4: One recently where the last place guy. I saw this
- 39:11Speaker 4: because a lot of these go viral. Right where the
- 39:13Speaker 4: last place guy? Mac had to go take the acts
- 39:16Speaker 4: for high school?
- 39:17Speaker 3: Again.
- 39:17Speaker 4: Yeah, it couldn't, it couldn't. Had to do it till
- 39:19Speaker 4: he passed? Is that possible?
- 39:21Speaker 3: Like?
- 39:21Speaker 2: I saw that video too. How do you like how
- 39:25Speaker 2: if you're a grown man do you get like like
- 39:27Speaker 2: you show up?
- 39:29Speaker 3: I don't know. How do you get an act test
- 39:32Speaker 3: with a bunch?
- 39:32Speaker 4: I like, I don't know if someone brings up this
- 39:34Speaker 4: stuff the stuffed animal date where you have to go
- 39:36Speaker 4: to a nice restaurant and order a meal with a
- 39:38Speaker 4: stuffed animal.
- 39:39Speaker 2: That's a good one too, That's a good one, two
- 39:41Speaker 2: three one numbers like that one though.
- 39:43Speaker 3: He's like, I got a date.
- 39:44Speaker 4: I take Ramsey on dates all the time. You hadn't
- 39:48Speaker 4: talked about Ramseys in a while. You cut it still, No,
- 39:51Speaker 4: you got moved to the shelf. He now watches me. Okay,
- 39:55Speaker 4: that's kind of scandalous. You go back to let's go
- 40:00Speaker 4: back to the tech four star race. Fan says, there's
- 40:02Speaker 4: is the person has to put truck nuts on their car.
- 40:04Speaker 2: That's a good I like that. That's not too crazy,
- 40:07Speaker 2: but that's funny. Two three to one number Bailey would
- 40:10Speaker 2: say that should be first place for your fantasy league. Yeah,
- 40:13Speaker 2: last place two three to one. Shut up says that's good.
- 40:17Speaker 3: I like that.
- 40:18Speaker 2: We have a punishment for last place. You have to
- 40:21Speaker 2: legally change your license plate to a custom plate that
- 40:24Speaker 2: says something about losing in fantasy.
- 40:28Speaker 3: That's well, then you got that permanently change it back?
- 40:33Speaker 3: Who we got multiple guys here, someone who wasn't here. Uh.
- 40:37Speaker 4: I lost the name of the person here in wu
- 40:40Speaker 4: Comb's league. The last place trash bawl in wu Comb's league.
- 40:45Speaker 4: Uh that person had to sing on stage with wu
- 40:48Speaker 4: Combs at a concert.
- 40:50Speaker 3: Oh damn, just sounded horrible. I'm sure.
- 40:53Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see here. This texter says, I understand you
- 40:59Speaker 2: guys are trying to do a fun segment, but am
- 41:01Speaker 2: I the only one that finds these things juvenile and annoying?
- 41:05Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we goes, I'm a cowfine done,
- 41:09Speaker 2: No seven four nhs.
- 41:12Speaker 3: This person's fun porn, no name. They're not done either.
- 41:15Speaker 4: The TEXTA says, I the only one finds a juvenile
- 41:18Speaker 4: and annoying I have dropped out of leagues over their
- 41:22Speaker 4: punishment for last place. Yeah, because you're afraid because you
- 41:25Speaker 4: suck at fancy football. Oh boom, what I killed you?
- 41:29Speaker 4: My god? Go touch some grass. I mean, go find
- 41:32Speaker 4: a friend in a hobby.
- 41:33Speaker 3: Need something. It's a fresh air a loser.
- 41:36Speaker 2: I will say this, after all the bashing you did
- 41:38Speaker 2: to this guy, I will answer his question.
- 41:41Speaker 4: Yes, it's very juvenile. But I don't know. Isn't that
- 41:44Speaker 4: what guys are all about? Like my wife asks me
- 41:47Speaker 4: all the time, what age do guys grow up? Because
- 41:50Speaker 4: you're fifty two and I haven't seen it yet. Like,
- 41:52Speaker 4: this is what we do. We're big kids.
- 41:54Speaker 3: Man, No stuff is funny. Oh, it's very fun. Could
- 42:00Speaker 3: you image that guy at the at the draft of
- 42:02Speaker 3: this of that league. I just don't.
- 42:04Speaker 4: I'm glad to be part of this gathering. I just
- 42:06Speaker 4: don't believe that we sha.
- 42:09Speaker 5: He probably wears the shirt of the games. I hope,
- 42:11Speaker 5: I hope both teams win or something like that.
- 42:14Speaker 4: This guy's somebody. He gonna get ripped on it. Somebody,
- 42:17Speaker 4: he said, quit making fun of WILLI pee that way?
- 42:19Speaker 3: That was all I got.
- 42:21Speaker 4: Will you guys, he can't be a punishment guy, can't
- 42:23Speaker 4: he No way, he can't like that.
- 42:25Speaker 3: He cannot.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Although ironically somebody just said our Fantasy League punishment is
- 42:30Speaker 2: you gotta eat Willie Pea's drive for a ski. That's cold.
- 42:35Speaker 2: Three three six says I saw this go viral. Uh,
- 42:40Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's real. The loser had
- 42:42Speaker 2: to enlist in the army.
- 42:45Speaker 3: Yes, I would question if that's real too.
- 42:47Speaker 4: That's oh, Mac, you are not gonna be happy with
- 42:50Speaker 4: Sean from Charlotte.
- 42:51Speaker 3: What happened?
- 42:51Speaker 4: They had to kick a guy out of the league
- 42:53Speaker 4: group chat because he was an Android user and he
- 42:56Speaker 4: had green tax coming up?
- 42:57Speaker 3: Oh how dare you?
- 42:58Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now we talk about all these
- 43:00Speaker 2: lawsuits with Kyle ja Athletics, I'm a file of DAN
- 43:03Speaker 2: class action discrimination against Android users lawsuit. It's amazing the
- 43:08Speaker 2: way y'all claim we make life so difficult, unbelievable.
- 43:12Speaker 4: That's one of the things that gets you back every
- 43:14Speaker 4: time you don't want the texts Matt to make fun
- 43:16Speaker 4: of Android.
- 43:18Speaker 3: Nine six.
- 43:19Speaker 5: To be fair, Mack, you were trying to give me
- 43:21Speaker 5: the phone number, yes straight for one of our guests,
- 43:23Speaker 5: and you couldn't find it on your Android. You know
- 43:25Speaker 5: how easy is to find the phone number on the
- 43:28Speaker 5: on the iPhone? Just right there, baby, click on the contact.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Here's the thing, you guys, blame us Android people. We
- 43:35Speaker 2: have no trouble with y'all being in text groups. There
- 43:37Speaker 2: is no that does not happen. iPhone does this so
- 43:42Speaker 2: that they don't want They try to make it hard
- 43:45Speaker 2: for you, their customer, to communicate with people that have
- 43:48Speaker 2: other phones.
- 43:49Speaker 4: You should be ticked off at your own damn company.
- 43:52Speaker 3: You should be ticked off at Apple. I'm not mad
- 43:54Speaker 3: they're gonna talk to you out of work.
- 43:57Speaker 4: Panther Pickle does doesn't play fantasy because of these pun
- 44:00Speaker 4: Oh so there's multiple ones. Then, Bob says, I lost
- 44:03Speaker 4: my lead twenty years ago. The punishment was I listened
- 44:05Speaker 4: to Mack and bone everybody punished to be by by you.
- 44:10Speaker 4: Tip my hat, sir, tip my hat. Phone man Marty.
- 44:14Speaker 4: His name is literally phone man. Android user equals Android loser.
- 44:19Speaker 4: Kawhi laugh, Android is superior nine eight oho typical Android loser.
- 44:24Speaker 4: Answer another texter, I would never date a woman when
- 44:29Speaker 4: I find out she's an Android user. It's a character flaw.
- 44:33Speaker 4: What is raw is fitty? Would you draw the line
- 44:35Speaker 4: there with you? Would you draw the line fitty? Someone
- 44:37Speaker 4: come up with green tactor and you just say, you
- 44:39Speaker 4: know what I need. I need to well by gones,
- 44:41Speaker 4: be bygones.
- 44:41Speaker 5: As long as I'm getting text back, I don't care.
- 44:43Speaker 5: What kind of phone should you?
- 44:46Speaker 3: You don't care if it's a tin can with a string.
- 44:50Speaker 2: By the way, I am reading this right here, forty
- 44:52Speaker 2: to forty two percent of Americans use Android. That's another thing.
- 44:56Speaker 2: Y'all act like we are like the three percent. Y'all
- 45:00Speaker 2: act like ninety seven percent is Apple. It's forty percent
- 45:04Speaker 2: or more.
- 45:05Speaker 4: Big Foot Baileys big Foot Bailey's way. Then I love you, Mac,
- 45:09Speaker 4: but you do ruin the group chat with your green techs.
- 45:12Speaker 3: What I don't understand. What's the problem? What does it do?
- 45:15Speaker 3: I don't know, but we have to go over.
- 45:17Speaker 4: Speaking of Green, the head coach of the Charles forty
- 45:19Speaker 4: staff talk, Tim Alvin comes up there with your long
- 45:21Speaker 4: tag of the season. Matt calm down the coaches on
- 45:24Speaker 4: the line. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ