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A Shoulder To Cry On Is A D**k To Ride On Feat @Billy.TheBadGuy (Part Two) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, socialmous, so shameless, so so so stamosus.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, so.
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  Speaker 1: Shameless, if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so shameless.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, so shame. Big cancer,
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  Speaker 2: not the little throw up.
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  Speaker 3: My all times have a little toxic take to it,
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  Speaker 3: but the most toxic.
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  Speaker 4: Aries. Toxic is a crazy word. What makes pisces toxic?
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  Speaker 3: You know, can't handle emotions for ships, very sad.
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  Speaker 4: That's toxicity. Might be emotional where you going too many.
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  Speaker 2: Feelings you can't have You can't have high feelings and expectations.
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  Speaker 4: Toxic. I've never if.
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  Speaker 2: I've never dated you, I don't know. I can't say that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe not the word of toxic about.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have high feelings and high expectations. That's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, like how you consistently said, like when
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about like the love languages, and you
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  Speaker 2: said you you love all of them or you need
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  Speaker 2: all of them. I can't be with somebody that need
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  Speaker 2: every lovelyngth. You're bugging the funk out. I can't provide
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  Speaker 2: everything like everything. Don't call me funk out of here,
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  Speaker 2: she said, I do get along with my girl.
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  Speaker 4: She said, you're not toxic.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you're not toxic to a Gemini woman.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean? What that s nigga east like
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  Speaker 4: a four year old brow of god? You had a
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  Speaker 4: pound cake in your pocket. That's not crazy toxic, toxic, toxic,
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  Speaker 4: most toxic sign, you said, Pisces. Then you try to
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  Speaker 4: take it back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean taurists fun that final.
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  Speaker 2: Locked in mine is a sag of terrorist.
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  Speaker 4: I would think, I would think for toxicity, I would throw.
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  Speaker 2: Just terrorists, throw top to bottom.
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  Speaker 5: All right, A lot of people might agree with you,
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  Speaker 5: though I hear that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I think virgos are the worst sign period, hands down.
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  Speaker 4: I think so. I think that the hardest both. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't deal with But you have friends, I don't
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  Speaker 4: really know them, you really you see them once every
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  Speaker 4: once in a while.
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  Speaker 2: You have you not then, but I think that I think,
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  Speaker 2: I think I think that with with with what grinds
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  Speaker 2: my gears with some virgos is the fact that when
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  Speaker 2: you upset them, they go crazy. It goes so far
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  Speaker 2: less so fast. But it's like you have to be
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  Speaker 2: the perfection of a person for you to respond so
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  Speaker 2: crazily for something that you could have possibly done to
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  Speaker 2: somebody else, or you probably did to somebody else. But
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  Speaker 2: the minute that anything happens to you, that is even
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  Speaker 2: it could be minutia. Y'all gonna take it to hell
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  Speaker 2: every time, and I don't got time to back, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't argue. I'm not gonna argue with nobody like yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's something really.
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  Speaker 4: You really went to that man's girl to let her
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  Speaker 4: know that you're jerking him off.
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  Speaker 5: Recording we always ask twice the two different people, and
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  Speaker 5: I was like, why did I do that? It was
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  Speaker 5: called for in the moment, it never called for because
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  Speaker 5: she called me a broken.
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  Speaker 2: Gay man, right, a broken gay man, a broken gay man,
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  Speaker 2: or a broken game man.
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  Speaker 5: And I told she said, you're a broken gay man
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  Speaker 5: that needs therapy, And I said, your yours is broken.
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  Speaker 3: That's why you can't hold those babies.
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  Speaker 4: That's not okay, because you are a broken man. Period time.
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  Speaker 4: It was true.
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  Speaker 3: A few days later it was wrong. In that moment.
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  Speaker 5: You can say you can't say what then you want
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  Speaker 5: to say to me and not expect me to watch
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  Speaker 5: my mouth?
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  Speaker 2: Does work? You know, that's work? And that is what's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: That right, that is the example. That's literally the exam
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  Speaker 2: and that's.
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  Speaker 4: Happened every time you get a Vergo man, they go.
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  Speaker 2: They go crazy.
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  Speaker 4: What at least Aquarius, they just be befuddled, like they
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  Speaker 4: have no idea what they did. They're like, I can't
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  Speaker 4: believe I'm under attack, Like you hit me with your car.
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  Speaker 3: You can't.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: You literally hit me with your car, Aquaries like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what they like?
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  Speaker 4: Why are you coming at me like that? You're saying
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  Speaker 4: that's me. See, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Low, No, I go low, but I will take it
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  Speaker 2: to hell cancer, But I'm not. I don't. I'm very
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  Speaker 2: strategic about the fucked up shit that I say to
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  Speaker 2: people because I also understand that if I care about
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  Speaker 2: you enough, I can't say too much because I have
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  Speaker 2: to be able to come back from this. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: logical about how low I go. Now if I take
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  Speaker 2: it to like if I said something like that to
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  Speaker 2: somebody one, I have no respect for you. I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea like there is no way that I would
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  Speaker 2: like to rectify this situation or this relationship and we
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  Speaker 2: either got to fight. Oh, I'm never talking to you again.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's literally like where my brain will go for
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  Speaker 2: me to say something that bad.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just explain something to you, y'all, y'all know
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  Speaker 4: my mouth, y'all know me. Right, this woman has chosen
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  Speaker 4: friendship with me for ten years plus because it's been
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  Speaker 4: said every times, not saying I deserved it or not,
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  Speaker 4: but I've seen her go and in that moment, she
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  Speaker 4: chose friendship. In that moment she looked, she said you,
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  Speaker 4: And then every time you know what, I see what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, moment I love you. I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do that. I do that a lot. I do
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  Speaker 2: it at work, I do I do it everywhere. I
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  Speaker 2: know what I really want to say. I can't say
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  Speaker 2: that out loud.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not it's not nice.
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  Speaker 5: I have to say what you ask for forgiveness later.
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  Speaker 5: So right now, I for like you attacking me. I
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  Speaker 5: have to put my guard up and say, calm down.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a calm down, that is a that is
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  Speaker 2: an atomic bomb.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 5: From my mother. Her birthday is the day after me,
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  Speaker 5: and my grandmother's like that too. She's a death to me.
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  Speaker 4: We are here back on a new episode. We catapulted.
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  Speaker 4: We catapulted into the first episode and that was nuts.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully you all have returned back to hear more toxicity.
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  Speaker 4: But when we're talking about black women, were talking about
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  Speaker 4: your mom and being a virgo and everything, it reminds
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  Speaker 4: me of the young lady that we had on last
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  Speaker 4: week that kind of blew the internet's mine. We released
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  Speaker 4: one or two clips and literally, I know Trump said
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  Speaker 4: he had somebody walk up to him in person. I've
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  Speaker 4: had several people walk up to me in person asking
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  Speaker 4: me what the fuck.
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  Speaker 2: I've had more dms this week than I've had in
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  Speaker 2: a very long time of people like like why y'all
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  Speaker 2: yelling at me for I ain't even want to come
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  Speaker 2: to work that day.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody hit me up and was like, Yo, why you
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  Speaker 6: wasn't there. I said, Yah, I wasn't even I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 4: What the fuck? The inter andnet so you saw it too, right?
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  Speaker 5: I told you my nigga sent it to me today.
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  Speaker 5: He was like, this is crazy. I wish I had
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  Speaker 5: something to say, I was like, what my MoMA way there.
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  Speaker 4: Now, now we've had some people say this is irresponsible
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  Speaker 4: to have this person on your platform. M I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't just she didn't just come in here and
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  Speaker 4: doctor umarus, like we literally dodgers arguing with her down
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  Speaker 4: as a historian, as a black woman, like she literally
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  Speaker 4: was giving it up. Trom had some some mic drop moments.
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  Speaker 4: I had my little ad libs every once in a while,
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  Speaker 4: like literally every forty five minutes. I said, like, for
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  Speaker 4: a word, they were good words. So I felt like
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  Speaker 4: it was a good conversation. Do y'all think it's irresponsible
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  Speaker 4: for us to have had that person on the show.
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  Speaker 4: Not at all.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's good to have balanced conversation. I feel
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  Speaker 7: like we I think we all consider ourselves pro black.
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  Speaker 7: She considers herself pro black, and there's people black people
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  Speaker 7: that look different, and we need to talk. We need
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  Speaker 7: to have conversation, and we need to figure out what
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  Speaker 7: we agree on, what we disagree on, and have conversations
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  Speaker 7: with it.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, it's all right. Was it irresponsible? No, But we
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  Speaker 2: had a conversation prior to the show when I said, like,
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  Speaker 2: if I don't I don't have a need to have
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  Speaker 2: certain conversations with certain people if I know that your
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  Speaker 2: mind is not going to change, because then we're just
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  Speaker 2: we're just arguing to completely different sides and nobody is
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  Speaker 2: going to concede to the other side. So it's just like,
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  Speaker 2: what is the point of even having a conversation. But
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy talking to people and having discourse and debates
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  Speaker 2: with people that think completely differently than me, because honestly,
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  Speaker 2: in my toxicity, it's an ego boost for me. Like
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  Speaker 2: for me, it's like, oh, I know, I'm not fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's like, okay, so I I understand.
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  Speaker 4: He retained all of that information.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I've been trying to tell y'all the
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  Speaker 2: adh I have one hundred and fifty tabs open in
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  Speaker 2: his brain right now, and I'm and I'll be overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know you was that mort.
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  Speaker 2: That's the second time, and it was some shit, And
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  Speaker 2: I did, what do you mean, nigga?
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  Speaker 4: You knew she would say something and you'd be like, no,
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  Speaker 4: that was the that was egypteen seventeen eighty six.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what, I know, you know that.
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  Speaker 4: And she'd be like, yes, you're right, and then like
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  Speaker 4: you was literally like with when she was saying certain shit.
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  Speaker 8: You had.
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  Speaker 4: Concrete date data to argue it against it. That is
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  Speaker 4: something like I can argue out of feelings, I can
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  Speaker 4: argue out of certain shit, but that data point I
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  Speaker 4: missed that I didn't. I don't have that, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I was just like, yo, you
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  Speaker 4: kept doing that joint episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's it's it's something that I'm passionate about.
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  Speaker 2: But you also have to understand, like I feel like
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  Speaker 2: when we have conversations all the time, I'm like, y'all
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  Speaker 2: want you to come to work with me one day.
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  Speaker 2: You don't understand, like this is what I do every day.
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  Speaker 2: Like my whole day is numbers, is data, it's percentage,
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  Speaker 2: it's standards, it's it's it's unpacking, it's given feedback, it's
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  Speaker 2: having conversation, it's hip to hip coaching. Like I do
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  Speaker 2: this Monday through Friday. My brain is consistently on overload
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's second nature. Just you could say some shit,
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  Speaker 2: you can say whatever fuck you want to say, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm being a coaching meeting with you right now and
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  Speaker 2: tell you that your data from three weeks ago does
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  Speaker 2: not match up what you just said. Right now, I
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  Speaker 2: can tell you your lesson internalization data. I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you how many kids in your class is on standard,
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  Speaker 2: who's not on standard, off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 2: in front of your face. So that's my job.
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  Speaker 7: I want to add to why I think it was
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  Speaker 7: a good conversation because we could learn from other people.
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  Speaker 7: I watched some of her shit on YouTube when she
• 13:01
  Speaker 7: was having a debate. It was like conservatives versus progressives,
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  Speaker 7: and you learn from both sides. It's like and there's
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  Speaker 7: things that conservatives say picking apart democratic agendas, and it's like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, fair, And that's why while we were talking
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  Speaker 7: to her, I was like, this is not that we
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  Speaker 7: are not trying to back the democratic agenda.
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  Speaker 4: We're just talking as I don't agree with her. I
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  Speaker 4: think she's brilliant.
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  Speaker 7: So it's important to hear conservative viewpoints and how they
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  Speaker 7: came to those viewpoints and how they criticized the democratic
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  Speaker 7: agenda because some things might be valid. So if you
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  Speaker 7: are a Democrat, you should be open to learn about
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  Speaker 7: things that your party can do better. And who better
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  Speaker 7: than somebody in the opposing party to point things out
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  Speaker 7: and you've got to.
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  Speaker 4: Be open minded and if you want to grow and learn.
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  Speaker 4: I like the fact that you're saying that Trump, But
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  Speaker 4: I have had a personal beef recently. We got to
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  Speaker 4: get back to this young leader, right. But when you
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  Speaker 4: were like learning from people that different from you, I've
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  Speaker 4: recently opened Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Facebook. Let's talk about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I specifically asked you not to post on Facebook and
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  Speaker 2: you did it in tea way. Why do you think
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  Speaker 2: we never had clips on Facebook? I said that years.
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  Speaker 4: We have a whole page. Now it's been there. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have access to it. I never opened it.
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  Speaker 2: I started seeing that ship on my Facebook. I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: this niggat.
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  Speaker 4: Only we have a whole consistence from the past. Opened it.
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  Speaker 4: It's used. Mad content is there and I have no
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  Speaker 4: idea how to get into it. I'm like, yo, what
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  Speaker 4: is this? But that being said, who are these people
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  Speaker 4: on Facebook?
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  Speaker 2: They are crazy? These are not like like and this
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  Speaker 2: is this is why they want to be there, Like
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  Speaker 2: they are literally insane. Put me on every social media
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  Speaker 2: except for faceboo book, like when you say the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of the barrel. You want to talk about the literacy crisis,
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  Speaker 2: the literacy crisis is on Facebook. They're all right there, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: don't see what you tried.
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  Speaker 4: But that's fine because he's not wrong as your grown
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  Speaker 4: ass idiots. Yo. I'm like, yo, First of all, I
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  Speaker 4: do want to say this right, shout out to the
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  Speaker 4: people that love their heritage, whether you're African American.
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  Speaker 2: They all on Facebook because they don't get blocked on Facebook.
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  Speaker 4: What the fuck is this FBA ship? I said, some
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  Speaker 4: ship and I have hundreds of comments of misspelled words,
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  Speaker 4: kicking the ass every day, hate big a tree, black
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  Speaker 4: classies Like it's like, nigga, you don't even know how
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  Speaker 4: to spell what that you think that you you're telling
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  Speaker 4: people ship?
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  Speaker 2: This is nuts and you can't tell him nothing you
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  Speaker 2: can't take I said, what the fuck a tether that
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  Speaker 2: I was bought here?
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  Speaker 3: My favorite one is from my clips, my family from there,
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  Speaker 3: my clips.
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  Speaker 5: They'll be like, he don't even know that he's gay,
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  Speaker 5: really really like, because.
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  Speaker 4: You have you never you've never been over here. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not active on Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go. It's not a good especially the old Caucasian.
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  Speaker 4: Now they really try to get you. Now, the literate
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  Speaker 4: I understand this SBA ship, this FBA ship for do
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  Speaker 4: they have a point?
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand what what their point? What is their point?
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  Speaker 2: What is there? What is the goal? What is there?
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  Speaker 2: Foundational Black Americans so the descendants of slaves only, So
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  Speaker 2: like I am technically not FBA because my father is
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  Speaker 2: from Guyana, so that in its own it excludes me,
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  Speaker 2: even though my whole grandmother's side is or like my
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  Speaker 2: mother's side has been in this country since slavery. Because
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  Speaker 2: of my father's side, I am excluded from the common
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a real Black American. And that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what they're doing that you're not a Black American
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  Speaker 4: unless you are a descendant of slavery.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, or like full descendant of slavery.
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  Speaker 3: To the cops, you're a Black American.
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  Speaker 4: They don't care about that. They know that if something
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  Speaker 4: they feel like if you're one, two, three generations removed,
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  Speaker 4: when something goes down, you can leave. You can go
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  Speaker 4: back to your country. You might have been a descendant
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  Speaker 4: of slavery from somewhere else, but that doesn't entidele you
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  Speaker 4: to reparations here or to represent Black Americans here that
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: went through the real struggle of Black Americans that went
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: through slavery.
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  Speaker 2: Chattle slavery.
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  Speaker 3: Doing this.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we need It's a black maga movement. They're idiots.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, how.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, I'm not half black?
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  Speaker 4: Fuck See how productive is this conversation? I think Trum
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  Speaker 4: used this word with me is counterproductive. We was having
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  Speaker 4: a conversation earlier this week and I said, that's exactly
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  Speaker 4: what we literally need. So now I don't even identify
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  Speaker 4: as West Indians. But now I'm not Black American enough
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  Speaker 4: to stand beside you in this fight against real oppression.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm not Black American enough. Now we need to
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  Speaker 4: sector out more and hate each other more and fuck
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  Speaker 4: it for me. Have your heritage, I.
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  Speaker 2: Have your pride.
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  Speaker 4: Dope you can Why y'all turn that into a weapon.
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  Speaker 4: You're weaponizing it. They're literally maga, my nigga. They're running
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  Speaker 4: around Facebook like ice.
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  Speaker 2: People who are one two generations.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like you ain't come here and get in here,
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  Speaker 4: you get the fuck out of America.
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  Speaker 6: Facebook is crazy. No, I agree with you. I don't really.
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  Speaker 6: I never really I'm not gonna say not support, but
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  Speaker 6: to me, I just feel like a lot of that
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  Speaker 6: ship really comes because of the reparations, right. I feel
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  Speaker 6: like once money gets involved, then niggas start trying to
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  Speaker 6: section themselves off, and to me, once you do that,
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  Speaker 6: the whole plot is lost. So I don't really support it,
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  Speaker 6: and trying to my right, I don't. I don't know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: but that's what that movement is about, right, basically identifying
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: the people who are eligible and the people who are
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: not eligible, exactly like I'm saying, Like, it's all coming
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: down to the money. So if you throw the money
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: on every money magic right, thank you dodge, imagine any
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: money that it's not even discussed and niggasa otulus check.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: This is what I'm tired. Is exactly what I'm talking about.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: So that's never came. That's why, that's why I've never
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: like even I know you got something to say.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: We spoke on this before, and I never defended the movement,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: but I only spoke about where it might be relevant,
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: and that's in the conversation of reparations.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I never heard of FBA.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: I heard the atos American descendants of slaves or slavery
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: or whatever, and it's another gang.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: These are many cults.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: Are not used in the cult or gang relation. It
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: was literally to describe a certain sector of people that
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: may be entitled to reparations from a different amount or
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: whatever than other people who are not descendants of slavery.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: If the reparations are based off of your ancestors or
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: slaves on this soil, then it is relevant if your
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: ancestors or not slaves from this soil. So I get
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: the conversation. But past that it should not be into
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: nothing else. Should It shouldn't go any further than that
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: than just the reparations argument.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: So my grandmother's from.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Foundation of American immigrant nigga, maybe.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Not as black as me. You do not deserve to
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: use that way the same flag as me. Stay in
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: your place. That's the ship they own, and it's literally
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: like yo, and there's a lot of hate in it. See,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I'm here for the pride. I'm super here for the pride.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: If that's what you want. You're proud your ancestors with slaves,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: hold that you're great, right, because my answers was most
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: likely slaves and another country, right, Fine, different, So fine,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: we all come from the same ship. But if you're
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: proud that you went through the horrors of Chatau slavery
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: enough chattel enough to create this divide in our community,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I find you ignorant.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: You're an imbecile, to be honest, that's a word, imbecile.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: You're like, yo, You're like, you're not worth what you said.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: You're not worth the argument, Like, why are you arguing
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: about this? I'm not bothered by you having that distinction
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: because you deserve reparations from America all of the countries
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: that were a part of the Transatlantic slave trade. Cool.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: You're using it as a weapon against your own people
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: while we're under attack from this greater force that has
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: affected all of us in the.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Heart right now.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: We're literally under the biggest attacks and civil rights right now.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: And this is the time that y'all had taken y'all
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: literally taking time for this. You're right, You're not worth
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the argument.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Mary was FBA too, wasn't she You heard.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: When she said it?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Right? She was. I heard what she said it. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: heard what she said you in the convos. She was like,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: are we all descending to slavery here? Because I know
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, your grandmother.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: No, that's she was a taurist.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Nuts. Now, I don't know if we have FBA people
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: in the audience. If we do again, I'm not mad
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: at y'all for being well. I think that if you're
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: a part of this cult and you don't see what's
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: around you and you haven't left, I think you're an idiot.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I think that the fact is you can hold that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: crown of saying I deserve reparations from America, from Spain, France, Portugal,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: all of the people that contributed to Transatlantics. That you
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: can hold that without being surrounded by idiots, right, that
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: are attacking your own people?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yo, sign what if my InTru thoughts about to win?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. What if there's like a civil war
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: between like MAGA and FBA, like, because that is a
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: that is a good that's a good like argument to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: have because FBAs most of them have been in this
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: country longer than a lot of the maga's ancestors. So
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that's an argument that could be had. They can do
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: that on Facebook. Yeah, let's do it, y'all do that
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: on Facebook. I want to see.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: So we can't celebrate junel teenth for real?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I mean this was said because we not really wanted them.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: That's the type of shit that they would say.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Though they're really on that, like why are you here? Now?
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Let's get it back let's let's roll it back. We're
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: talking about Mariam real quick, right, and and Troum was
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: saying she made some good points, did that we might
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: want to listen to. I have one thing on the
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: agenda about women today, and it is from her page.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: For Mariam's page. I want to know what y'all think.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's a point. It's something that came
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: across and it maybe go hum.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: All right, well, let's consider the source. I don't know
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: like that she married, what's up? Background?
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Married?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Got kid?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Please please don't do that because I almost didn't go
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: on the show. She has a child. She has a daughter.
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: So apparently the Houston Rodeo had to implement a dress
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: code because so many women were showing up damn near
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: naked to the events.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: And I'm gonna be honest, it was primarily black women.
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: So we're gonna have a heart to heart black women, Okay,
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: Because as a black conservative, I am constantly told by
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: other black women that I don't love being black, that
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: I don't love the culture, etc. No, this is the
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: stuff that affirms to me why the black community must
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: come back to conservative values. You understand, we have lost
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: our way hear me when I say this, because I
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: love you and I'm not gonna be one of those
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: conservatives that gets up here and speaks badly.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: About black women. I love black women.
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: I know that you are misled.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: I know that you are just following.
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: The leading of the people that the Democrat Party puts.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: In your face as a good role model. Because how
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: are you supposed to.
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: Not dress like this when the people that you look
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: up to dressed.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: Like this, and their wives and their mothers. This is
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: a mess.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: This is a mess.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: We need to come back to conservative values.
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: First of all, stop calling yourself a woman of God
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: and you're half naked all the time.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Stop it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: Read your Bible, allow the Holy Spirit to convict you
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: and tell you to put on some dagon.
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: Clothes before you walk out the house. Also, remember that
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: you have value. Sis you are valuable.
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: Why should anyone get to see what you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Look like naked?
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: Oh I'm just more comfortable. No, you're not.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: You're not because you have to adjust and fix everything
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: every two seconds walking O.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: You're not more comfortable like that. You understand you are keeping.
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: Up with a terrible trend, and it's time for the
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: black community, black women especially, to hold each other accountable
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: and with love, steer our entire race back in the
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: right direction. And you wonder why these black men are choosing.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: White women in mass these days.
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: And I'm not saying that the white girls are not
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: outside any look at OnlyFans will tell you that there's
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: a lot of white girls outside. Okay, But when I
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: see something like this, I have to acknowledge that the.
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: Pool of black women that black men.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: Have to choose from it's not looking too fantastic.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: This is a mess. This is a mess. I say
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: this with love. Black women do better.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: Okay, you deserve to respect yourself more. And black men
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: deserves girlfriends and wives and daughters and mothers that respect
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: themselves and carry.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: Themselves with more class than this.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: And I do firmly believe if enough of us change,
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: the rest will follow.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: This is like the Vigo and me. What her body
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: look like?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Her body's tea, she's cute like she she's not, maybe
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: she's not. She's not a mess at all.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: She looks good.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, I would think she's doing this. How about how
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: about you?
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: Okay, Okay, No, she was.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not talking about what I say. You obviously
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: she's a beautiful girl, but I'm just saying like her
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: body was nothing about the way that she shaped this problematic.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I will say that I can calm down. You can't
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: say that I can't can't marry in something I don't know. Okay,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: this is one of those moments that Traum was talking
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: about a broken clock. There are some truths in what
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: she said. Is it all the way true? No, once
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you start bringing in white men, black men, Democrat Democratic parties,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: celebrity da da da, Like, once you start doing all that,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: like it waters down the message.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Celebrity when that's what they looking that's what they looking like.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to also say that I as a person,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: like I don't like the fact that when you ask
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: someone who you look up to, it's always a nine
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: times out of ten, it's a person that you never met,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that you don't know, somebody that you just see, Like,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you can't say that your example of a woman is sweetie, like,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: w how do we get there? Like you don't know
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that lady from nowhere? So like if when I was
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: younger and I was growing up and somebody was to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: ask me, like, who is a ah, a woman in
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: your life that you would like to model yourself after.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It would be my mom, it would be my aunt,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: it would be like, uh, my mentors, like people that
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I actually know. I I keep telling y'all that I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: grew up in a very conservative Black Baptist household. So
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: these are things that I've heard my whole entire life.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: This is nothing that's new. I do believe that there
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: is a time and place. I do believe that there
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: are there are outfits that are acceptable in certain places
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that are not acceptable in other places. I am one
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of those women that's like, you should not be outside
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: with your bonnet on and your and your pajamas and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: your slippers, like I I hate to see. I really
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: like that shit, really like bothers me on the inside
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: because I was not raised that way. I was very
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: much raised like if your hair is not done, put
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: on a hat. Okay, now my hair's not that I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: gonna put on a hat, but I'm not gonna You're
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: never gonna see me outside with a headscarf on. You're
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: never gonna see me outside will pajamas on. I'm I Also,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not very conservative conservative in the way that I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: dress but I am mindful and where I go. If
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I am gonna wear short shorts, I'm not gonna wear
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: a crop top. I'm not gonna wear a tub top.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: If I have if my arms are out, my legs
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: are covered. If my legs are out, my arms are
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: mostly covered. I have on like a jacket A show like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: These are the things that I was raised to understand.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And I get that you can't. You should not be
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: coming to your kid's school any your kind of way,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: just wearing anything looking like you just came from the club.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: There are certain things that I agree with, and I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: do think that as a community, we can do better
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: on I see a lot of shit and I think
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it's disgusting.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: I agree with you. There's a time in the place.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: There's that I see people. I'm a manager at my job,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: so I see people coming to interviews. I'm like, that's
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: what you just, that's what you want.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Oh lot me crazy.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: It drives me crazy.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I actually the resume where somebody got their gym picture
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: on the resume.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know you put pictures on the resumes, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: that you can.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: But you put a professional headshot like a little circle
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: on your resume. Like I judge people by their resumes too,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But that's another story I'm.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Gonna show you later. But so is a time and
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: the place. However, I do now, I do kind of shame.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Where you know, the bakery is open and you got
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: like six rolls and you wearing the crop top.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think you should be doing that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Love your body, but where was body? Where's your body?
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Yes that you like that bakery should be open in
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: the bedroom, I don't.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see that, you know.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Where with the children. Don't want to see it either, But.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I just feel like, as black people, why are you
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: still trying to bring us down?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Like you could quietly judge in your head and say, hey,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Be wearing that, but you got a rodeo and having
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: a great time, and you want to feel like you
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: could wear those shorts.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: It's in Daisy Dudes, a white thing, Daisy Duke from.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: No white people, white people take everything because.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: It was dukes of hazard. It was Daisy dukes from.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we already had we had batty riders and
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: all the rest of them.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: But we're talking about.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: It looks different on them because and that's the other
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: part because white girls, they be out of pocket. The
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: one inch seam shorts that these holes we wearing is
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: diabolical just because you don't have the hips and the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: thighsand and of cheeks, and it's like it's still not okay. Yes,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: and then they have little girls. They little girls wear
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: these one inch seam two inch seams shorts way more
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: than hours. But when we if our kids wear it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have way more to say about it, because
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: no matter like not, no matter what, there are still
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of black people that have those conservative values.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I am an advocate of bring back shame. I am
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: an advocate of somebody gotta be able to tell us
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: about ourselves. Like I don't want to say it in
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: in harm or in judgment. However, y'all do be looking
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a mess like Natalie None being your og and you
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: dressed like this is a problem for me. I'm sorry,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I'm tired of it. I am tired of it, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want my kid to see it, and I
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: don't want to be young.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Everybody that they can do it, it's like get the.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Because I'm a man, so I don't really know, right,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know, and I'm in this whole freedom, pride, fluidity, space, right,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: So I really don't know what to think. I really
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm honestly confused about the whole thing because
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: to me that I would say that's patriarchy or this
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: is coming from a man's view of a woman and
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: a man telling the woman, because we don't tell men
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: how to.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Dress, and we should because y'all be looking at message.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Pants up off the ass? Where are we really? Like?
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what to think about this, to
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: be honest.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I think she's what they can say, rage bathing. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: think she's doing it for content. I don't think she believes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: In that any really.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is far going. She believed it, she believed
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: every bit of it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but we're agreeing with some of it. So I
• 35:16
  Speaker 11: do think that it's it's just I just don't like
• 35:19
  Speaker 11: how you bringing down black women. You couldn't generalize and say, listen,
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: look how you dressed in public.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: But when you're when you consider yourself a pro black maga, like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I can understand why she's centering black women because that
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: is her folk. Her folk is black women or black
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: people being better. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's not there.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: There are truths in everything.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: The FBA should get drafted towards first before we get drafted.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: But so the the Kamala Harris uh presidential run bringing
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Megan on state, that was a big problem for a
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: lot of black that was a lot.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know why.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Cardi endorsement and the fact that it's like they feel
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: like these women who do not represent quote unquote Black
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: women in the best light, seem to be being pushed
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: the idolization of them.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: But they represent an archetype of Black women, and they
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: represent an archetype of Black women voters that you want
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: to get. It's it's like, did I like to make
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the stallion thing? I could have? I could have, it
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: could have not happened, and I would have been perfectly fine.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: But there is a group of women that that bought
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: them to wanting to see what's going on with politics
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and whatever the case may be. Then what political rue?
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Did they have strippers in the fucking commercial? Was that Biden?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Was that Joe Biden when they when they had like
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: these stripper bitches in the commercials? I swear for god,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: No.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I really do think that it was Biden like, I'm gonna.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Look it up, bring awareness to get people to go vote. Yes,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: and the amount of people.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: That still didn't go vote, Like if I was did again,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: that'll be a number one deal breaker. Did you vote?
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: If you didn't vote, it's a deal breaker for me
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: completely because it's like, now, look where we're in and
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: you got to you think you have the right to complain.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: So I think with the short time that she had,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: it was just to get people say, go to the polls,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Go to the polls. Didn't work, of course, not look
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: where we are today.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: See yeah, meet the pole dancers urging Americans to vote.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It was in twenty twenty. I remember this in the pandemic.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing a commercial of strippers like go vote.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: They was black, that's crazy, he probably it was Atlanta.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I'm glad Mary didn't know about that. You have a
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: white man using black sisters, black women as strippers.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I just want I want us to I want us
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to not I don't want black women to be more
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: conservative per se, but I do want us to have
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: have more discernment when we go outside. I do not
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: want to see you and your thong bikini at motherfucking
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: wild Water Kingdom, Like I want you to I want
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you to understand that there is a time and a place,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: and I do understand that there is racism and patriarchy
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: and all of the things that are assigned to like
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: dress codes and stuff like that. But we're kind of
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: also doing it to ourselves because we have to understand
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: that you just can't come outside look in any your
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: kind of way. Look at look at the kids nowadays.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Look at what the kids are doing and how the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: kids are dressing. It's not okay. But then it also
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: goes into a larger conversation that we've had before, like
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: even the men, like y'all don't even y'all don't even
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: dress like that. No more niggas put on jasus niggas
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: in a T shirt to go everywhere, Like where are
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: your hard bottom shoes? Where is your your your overcoat?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Where is your blazer? Like niggas don't even have that.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm not even looking at him because I knew
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: he was gonna take it, but I'm just saying, like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: y'all gotta like do better.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: That was the conversation that have Almost somebody has something
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: they want to say.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things I wanted to ask dog
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: a question, but also it was funny. I was just
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: thinking about that. I wear sneakers all the time. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: went to a black tie event last night and I
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: had sneakers.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Sneakers in a suit.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do that all the time.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I know you do, right, So here's the thing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: And a lot of a lot of black men that
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: actually are well dressed do that too. I think it's
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: more of a trend than anything. The only time I
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: wear shoes now is if it's like a funeral, you
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: know what I mean. I just don't wear shoes. I'm
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: also a DJ, so it's like I don't need to
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: be as dressed. I think it's appropriate for what I'm
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: doing there. I'm in a creative space, right. So you
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: don't have got mad shoes that I have not worn.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: I got shoes as brand new.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So when you go on on a date, you wear sneakers.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I don't date. No, I'm talking about he's never dated,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: he's gone on dates, You've gone your data, you go
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: on dat?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's crazy. My favorite thing to do on
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: date night is to match, like we re coordinate with
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: each other's vibe. If I'm gonna put on shoes or
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: heal he's gonna put on a loafer or boot or
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: something like, he's not gonna just put on a pair
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: of Jordans and jeans and a motherfucking T shirt for
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: date night vibe. I don't wear it's not even but
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: just because it's a Gucci sneaker, don't make it not
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: a necessarily mean.
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: I mean, like a plain white sneaker. Like now, I'm
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: not talking about Nike air Force one.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: So that's one thing. So the other.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: The question I had to you guys, and we kind
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: of talked about this on the podcast a while ago,
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: but I don't remember your response. So I agree with
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: you that there's a time and place for discernment with
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: how you dress. How do you feel about because I
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: noticed this, especially around here, I'll see a white woman
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: jogging with some little short with shit and it does
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: not look as crazy as me because she don't got
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: nobody exactly.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: How do you.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: Feel do you feel like the same outfit a black
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: curvy woman should or should not wear it in the
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: same environment.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: What do you think as a black curvy woman that
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: has been on the the adverse of that conversation, literally
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: my entire life. I hate it. I hate that I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: can put on something that is deemed acceptable or professional
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and it looks crazy on me just because of the
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: way that I'm shaped, and another person doesn't have to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: do the same thing. I have left jobs for stuff
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: like that because it's very discriminatory, because I can't help
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the way that I'm shaped, So I don't need to
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: be pulled into conversations and into offices and shit like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Like I can have on a fucking pencil skirt which
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: is appropriate for work, but it looks different on me.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: So again, so do I have to walk around in
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a burka to be appropriate?
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: No?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I don't. That's not that's not okay. Differently, I can't
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: help that. Different I cannot help.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, you can appropriately.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: To your body, I will say this does with great
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: power comes great responsibility. Less for curves, you can't do
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: the same thing that a flat bodycake woman could do.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: No, because but then, but then that is that's where
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the discriminatory practices come from when we're talking about dress
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: codes and stuff. Because if the dress code says that
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: you have to make sure that your skirts are under
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: your knees or you have to make sure that your
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: arms are covered at all times, or that you have
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to like if that is a part of the dress code,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and I am within the realms of that dress code,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: but it just sits differently on my body. You actually
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: can't say.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: Shit to me technically, but you kind of know what's appropriate.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: You work around kids. I work around kids, and you
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: know what's appropriate giving your body type and things of
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: that nature. I'll give you about that though. I'll give
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: you an examples as a man me working in hot
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: weather in the summertime. Is is something certain men like if
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: you're in the gym and you got big muscles, whatever,
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: and you wear a tank top, it looks different than
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: a man that is just wearing a tank top. And
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: maybe it's not doesn't have all the muscles, it just
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: has a regular figure shape or whatever describe that. But
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: it looks different.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Nigga look crazy, look different on different people.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: So that's what I'm saying. It's the same tank top,
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: but depending on who's wearing it and what your body
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: shape is, I think it matters. You can't be like
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: it's technically you're not doing nothing wrong. You're wearing the
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: same ship.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Are we policing women's bodies with this conversation.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: We're policing, Yes, it's big on police and women's bodies.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Bring up the men's.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: Part, and then we brought up men wearing the pants
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: too low and all that. Like, I think it's a
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: matter of what's appropriate.
• 43:57
  Speaker 12: To think about the last time someone told you to
• 44:03
  Speaker 12: be professional?
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: What do they actually mean?
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: Don't you emotion dress a certain way, speak in a
• 44:10
  Speaker 12: particular tone, use specific language.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: Here's what's fascinating. If you ask ten.
• 44:15
  Speaker 12: Different people to define professional behavior, you'll get ten different answers. Yet,
• 44:20
  Speaker 12: somehow we all instinctively know when someone's being unprofessional, or
• 44:25
  Speaker 12: at least we think we do. Right now, millions of
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: workers are code switching every day, changing how they speak, dress,
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: wear their hair, and express themselves to fit some invisible.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: Standard of professionalism.
• 44:38
  Speaker 12: Women are told not to be too emotional, while men
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: are praised for being passionate. In some situations, people with
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: non Western names anglicize them on resumes. Natural hairstyles are
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: deemed unprofessional in some workplaces, while straight hair is considered
• 44:56
  Speaker 12: the default professional look. Ever, see the cover of my
• 44:59
  Speaker 12: first book, Career Mapping. Yep, that was me professional look
• 45:03
  Speaker 12: fifteen years ago, relaxed colored hair at all.
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: But here's the question nobody's really asking.
• 45:09
  Speaker 12: Who decides what counts as professional in the first place,
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: and more importantly, whose culture, whose class, background, whose way
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: of being in the world became the template that everyone
• 45:22
  Speaker 12: else had to conform to.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had that struggle every job to this day.
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: Me.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: I'm a person who talk with their hands a lot,
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: and that's me expressing myself, trying to get the words out.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: I just talked about who I'm doing it now, and
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: as a person that holds meetings and everything, I had
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: somebody tell me, oh, you shouldn't speak with your hands
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: if it comes off as aggressive. Aggressive to who like
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: I'm saying great things, like guys, we're doing a great job.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Let's keep doing this. How's that aggressive?
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Or I get told where I come in, I'll come
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: to work just being myself.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not cold switching, and I'm gonna make.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: A joke about something to where like somebody on a
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: corporate level came up to me, she was like, I
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: already have a podcast.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Can you kind of.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Help me, like what tips you have for me? And
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: I'll be like all right, well you do. I'm just
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: being myself and I think I give respected for that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: But then you get the other side, like, well maybe
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: she'd just clean this up a little bit. Nobody will
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: ever take you serious.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, and I'll just say I'm not
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: white enough. I'm not white enough.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, switch, yeah, I do.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: I always think about the effect on the room, specifically
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: with your job children, right, if we're talking about that,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: not talking about corporate America. Maybe so, because the women's
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: body is the source of so much male attention, lust, whatever.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: If you show up in a certain way, maybe from
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: other women.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Or envy from other women. If you show up a
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: certain way, it affects the room at work. If you
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: show up a certain way with school, it affects perception,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: children's perception, whatever it may be. So well, look, honestly,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: me personally, I don't know how much I care about
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: this because I always like the sexy teachers.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: But but that's the thing, right, But but that's not
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: you being a piece of ship because back when you
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: were in school, and I'm not even trying to be
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: funny teachers dress, No, not not no, That's what I'm saying.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying, is they dress dangerous?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: They would have flakes so.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Crazyous back then? That can you stop? Back then? I
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: don't think that there was a big question around teacher
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: professional dress or professionalism and dress. Children have crushes on teachers,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: not based off of but it's not based off of
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: what they wear. It's never been that because kids, just
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: like adults, Most people like people because of who they are,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: what they say, how they come across. You can wear
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: a suit and tie every day if you if you
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: have that aura, like the kids say, if your aura
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: is there, your aura is there. It doesn't matter. Like
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: for me specifically, I wear suits a lot at work,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Contrary to popular belief, I wear a lot of suits.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I wear suits and Jordan's honestly, But I start Monday
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: very very professional, and then I get more like lax
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: to Friday. Because Friday you can dress down, you can
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: wear jeans, you can wear shirts or whatever the case
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: may be. That does not stop people from being attracted.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: That does not stop even teachers from trying to talk
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: to you high up. It's still a suit.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: You can like somebody for who they are and not
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: be attracted to them. Attraction comes with some sort of
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: when you look at a person, whether it's their style,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: their body, from the energy shit like that. Say, it
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: can be just the fact that you wear in the
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Jordans and this you got the hat, the tear hat
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: they like, yo, where you get that hat? Oh yeah,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: this old school shit whatever, right, whatever it may be,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: they can look at you and be like, oh, I'm
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: just attracted to the way you put it together or
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: and that's just one way. But it can also be hips,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: breast body, skin tone, eyes, It can be all that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: But then when you think about male professionals, male teachers,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: male anything, they don't have hips and and but they
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: still get the same thing like kids. Kids will still
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: have crushes on male teachers. So what is the appeal
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: in that is?
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: It?
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Is it his polo and khakis.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Women just be hot, girl, They just hiding the pants.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: They're the first ones to be on.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I can't care about being attracted to the teacher.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Now, girl kissed me in second grade. I didn't even
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: know what girls were, bro, you.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Knew what girls were tag in second grade?
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: They just yo, girls be hot.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I always hated that. Don't touch me, bro, No, I
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: don't like that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Ship I have uh hmm. This is going to be
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: an interesting segue. And I'm gonna cut this clip in half.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I just want to hear the first part. It is
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: a conversation where men on the j BP we're speaking
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: about men being feminists and not it not being a thing.
• 50:29
  Speaker 13: It's like, but maybe it needs a rebread Why not
• 50:32
  Speaker 13: because it shouldn't.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Be worth feminist?
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: So why because it's support? I know, but it just
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: sounds that crazy right now?
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: It sounds crazy.
• 50:42
  Speaker 13: And then you're a fem minist, like, no, I'm not
• 50:44
  Speaker 13: a support women.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Don't know.
• 50:46
  Speaker 13: Doesn't ready for white person to be pro black because
• 50:48
  Speaker 13: they're not black?
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: No, I don't.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: It's supposed equivalent.
• 50:57
  Speaker 12: Equivalent.
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: I'm saying the.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Word feminists sounds crazy.
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: Lab on a man.
• 51:01
  Speaker 13: You just kind of word that women exactly why.
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: You're not.
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying that we need.
• 51:07
  Speaker 13: To find another word for men that support women.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Sounds crazy.
• 51:11
  Speaker 13: Here's what I'm saying in response the idea that a
• 51:13
  Speaker 13: man supporting a woman or a man having a label
• 51:17
  Speaker 13: that has women in it, the idea that sounds crazy
• 51:19
  Speaker 13: to you is exactly why we need words like feminism.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I don't like men that I don't believe. No, many
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: words to ask questions, ask people to change words because
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I know you don't read books enough
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: to even say that, say some shit like that. There's
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: no way you don't.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what he doesn't read books. He's
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: very educated, young man.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't truly believe that you read enough
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: books that you have an issue with the word feminism
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: or being a feminist as a.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Male, a man being a feminist.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a white person or a black
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: person being upset back in the day, for there to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: be a white abolitionist, a white person out that that
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: that wants.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: To help black as a white person does sound weird
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: to me. I don't know why.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think that that was a false equivalency, though.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I bet that's why I use the word abolitionists because
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I feel like abolitionists is a better equivalency to feminist
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: pro black. You can't be pro black and be white
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: like you can. You can be an ally. You could
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: be a pro black ally.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: But why is that a false equivalency.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Because it's not because the words are not equivalent, being well,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: one is a word and one is a phrase. Don't
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: get me.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Started feminism as a man. I think it's that that
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: that sounds the same to me. And I don't know
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: many words you might be talking about me, but feminine
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: as a man sounds exactly the same to me as
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: pro black as a white man as a white person.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Does anybody in here have a pushback on that? It
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: sounds exactly the same to me. Now, you said you
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: can be an ally, and that's exactly how I feel
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: about being a man to a feminist. You can be
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: an ally for women and ally for the feminist movement.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: But it just sounds weird, but sounds and I don't
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: really care because I've met a lot of men that
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: have said that they're feminists. I'm not going to fight
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: you on it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: It sounds weird, But the best thing I can say
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: is I think dodges on the right path. Like you
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: could look up the definition of feminism pro black is
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: there's no real definition to it. It's just the term.
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: So a man can technically be a feminist. I don't
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: know if you can say the same. You know, I
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: think it's the same.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: I think being being a feminist is being an advocate
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: for so I feel like, yeah, by the virtual into
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: the to the white person being pro back, like if
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: being pro black is being an advocate for black culture,
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: black stuff, then yeah, it's it's just it's just being
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: an advocate. That's why would be that saying it's so
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: stupid because it's like, yeah, men can be advocates, Like
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: why we who's arguing is being advocate for something like feminism?
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, now that I get that makes sense?
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: Right, I get it depends on how you define pro black.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: For me, pro black means you put.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Black people first, yes, and I agree.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: So if you're white, yea.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And that's why I use abolitionists instead of pro black
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: in that analogy because for me, that doesn't you can't
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: be pro me because to be pro you have to
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: be anti something. So you can't be white and say
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: that you're pro black because a lot of pro black
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: people is the black people first. I'm here for the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: the advance mean, thank you, the advancement of black people
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: first before anybody else. The same way, when you have
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: pro white, you could be pro white, you could be
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: pro black, but we can't be pro each other.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Pro white sounds RAI.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: That's why they say pro black sounds racist according to them.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: But they don't understand the word racist. And if they
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: don't understand the definition of racism, you would say some
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: stupid shit like that.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I thought pro white was maga.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: They're not maga. They won't they won't admit that.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I'm evangelical, evangelical.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Very white, par.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: White par yeah. Man. I always look at white people
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: that say they pro black. It's like, how like I
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: wouldn't never want another race to be like, put first
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: before mine. Not that I don't want them to have equal,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: but put them above now. Obviously, with the suffering of
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: black people, I can understand a white person saying, nah,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: they deserve it. They've been through some shit, bro, and
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: they still going through shit every I can understand that,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: But for them to say pro black, it just sounds
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: like weird.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: You know what's so crazy when it comes to words.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in equality. And I realized this recently
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: about myself, because I think that equity is more pivotal
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: and more important than equality. And I know when you
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: say like in a sentence, it sounds crazy. But I
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to be equal to anybody else. We've already been.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: We started the race super late. We should not look
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: for equality. We need that extra leg up because we
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: were disenfranchised for so long, so it's not supposed to
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: be equal. I don't want to be equal to white people.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I want to be equitable. I want to be able
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to have the same advantages and the same things and
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: systems that they were able to have and they were
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: able to benefit from. I should have as well, if
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: even more, at a higher level because it was never equal.
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that reminds me of analogy. I always think about,
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: like you running a race, right me versus somebody else,
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: and my shoelacers are tied together to start the race,
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: and they got a forty yard head start. You can't
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: untie my shoelace and'll be like, all right, now we're equal.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Now we're equal everybody exactly.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: Equity means let me catch up to you, reparations, like
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I don't even want reparations for real.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Well, I hear you. I'm sorry. I was gonna ask
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: you something, but real quick, y'all sound like y'all are
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: giving power to the fears of MAGA hmm, because they're
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: scared we're going to do them in if we get
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: too much power. They're scared. They're literally like they're trying
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: to kill whiteness. So they're trying to like they're trying
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: to get us out of here. And if you're saying, yo,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: I don't even want it to be equal, I want
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: to have more than you because of what happened back then,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: then their fears as a person who was saying, you
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: know what, yo, I don't want nothing to happen to you,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: but I don't want nothing to happen to my people either.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: So if y'all feel like that, then fuck that. Y'all
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: can't get that. I'm gonna put as many laws as
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: I can, so y'all can't get that, all.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Right, And that's where we are right now.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you fear equity, then you have a
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: scarcity mindset and there's something wrong with the way you're thinking,
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: and you know the way that American's true equality, then
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: not equity.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: But you cannot give me equality after the race has
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: already started.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: But that would mean that I have to now take
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: the back seat.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: And you don't have to take the back seat. You're
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: just not getting any more. I'm just I'm meeting you.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I'm meeting you where you are because I can never
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: catch up to you because you've had such a head start.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: So equity, so I love this analogy.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: That is going to agree to that, and they're not
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: going to so that means war, all.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Right, So then if that's what it is, and that's
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: what it is. But I just don't want to be
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: another black person that says I just want to be equal.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't because we have to start at
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the same point to be equal. The best picture that
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen when we're talking about the differences between
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: equality and equity is like there's a baseball game happening,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: and it is a fense, right and there are three
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: people that are on the one side of the fence,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: and they're each trying to see the baseball game. But
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: they're all different heights. So you have a person that's
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: really really tall. He can see over the fence. He
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: can see the game. That's perfectly fine. Equality is you
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: give everybody a box to stand on so that they
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: can see the game. But if I'm a foot shorter
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: than you that box, I still can't see over the fence.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I need three boxes. So you don't need a box
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: because you can already see over the fence. The next
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: person might need one box so they can see over
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: the fence. But I need three boxes because I'm this
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: tall and now we can all see over the fence.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: That is what black people need. We need them three boxes,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: y'all already. Y'all, y'all can see over the fence, and
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: there might be like you can because when we talk
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: about this country, it's like white men, white women, women,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: and LGBTQ black people. Right, So you can take white men,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: y'all can see over the fence. You're good, White women
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: or women in general, or white l g b t
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Q people, you get a box. You can see over
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the fence. Now, But black women, black men, black l
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: g b t Q people, we need four boxes. We
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: can't see over that whole. That's what I want for
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: my people. I want all of us to be able
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: to see over the fence.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she smokes me. I felt smoked halfway through. She
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: just got It's just she just kept putting more smoking
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: on the fire book. She was like, yo, and then
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: I got this yo boat. She smoked that ship, holy ship.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Don't ask me no questions about it because.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: It's over. I just think this nigga sick there was
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: nothing left. Let me see with us here, because I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: wouldn't even prepare for the classes to be over.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 14: Boys aren't raised to be men, boys arrays just not
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 14: to be girls. Yes, and I think that that is
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 14: the crisis of our society.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 8: They just boys, aren't.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I love her so much she can't cook it for yo.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Hold up.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I love their call love. I love their whole video.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Yes before I've.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Never heard she smoked immediately coming in. That's what I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: told you that. I told you guys, the whole episode
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: today was really about. I love it.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 14: Boys aren't raised to be men, boys arrays just not
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 14: to be girls. And I think that that is the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 14: crisis of our society.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: There's no real role modeling. They just told what not
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: to be.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 14: They're they're terrorized and terrified of anything that feels remotely
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 14: feminine or female.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: And actually women are terribly strong.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 10: And we know that because if I almost somewhere.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 14: Between six and ten thousand years of patriarchy, we still
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 14: haven't submitted.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: I don't think we're going to.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 14: And if you have to marry us off at the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 14: age of nine, then what does that tell you?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 10: How afraid must you be of us? You only seek
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: to destroy something that you're afraid of.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: You would not only need to take.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: Our voting rights away or take away our right to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: education because you're afraid of what would happen if we know.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 10: You're only afraid of older women and older women having
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 10: a voice and an opinion and access to younger women.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: If you're afraid of what they're going to tell other women.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: You're afraid of sitting with or dating a woman your
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: own age because you might be able to actually see you.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: So you have to date someone who's barely out of
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: her teens because she won't have your number, because she
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: doesn't even understand the world yet.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 14: It's all fear. All of it's fear. It's hatred. It's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 14: a mask of hatred, but really it's terror. They're so
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 14: afraid of us, and it's so sad because that strength
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 14: that we have doesn't have to be subdued, it could
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 14: be harnessed.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: It's my girl, that was that? Was? You agree with that?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. She or that sunflower oil
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: right there? Baby?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about what she just said? You
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: tried to debating, it's.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Not I'm not telling the painting.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I like that I actually like listening to this because
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: I don't really talk about stuff like this. But I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: think it goes back to what I said earlier, Like
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: I honestly think the mothers need to take accountability.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: All the parents. I'm bringing the mothers.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: It's the it's not the raised there their kids better
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: sons right yesterday on how they raise their kids.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: That's all I have. I want to hear what you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: definitely the mothers.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: It's not the dad, Jesus Christ, but not because the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: more mothers actually raised the kids in the whole community.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about black people only.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: The mothers that even in the white people community, the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: mothers have more proximity to the raising the rearing of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: the children than the dad. Now, if we're going to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: say yo, if we're going to say well, then it's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: really y'allful because y'all need to be more involved. But
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: the effect that we've seen is from the mothers.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know that's a conversation I would love to have.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Let's do it. Hold on, I got a clip for.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: It because I just opened up Shire.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: You are not drowning?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 15: Well, what do you call living in an awful dorm
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 15: with no money and the washing machines broken in the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 15: laundry room, and there's some kind of soup coming out.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Of the faucet.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: Marriage, I call it. It's hard. Okay, it's just hard.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 15: Dad, And you want me to make it not so hard.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: You're supposed to do that. I can't.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: But what good are you?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: Hey? You made a choice.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 15: You just sign I did that you were old enough
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: to get married. You decided to take on the responsibility
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 15: of a new life because you believe you could handle it,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 15: and this family supported that decision after we told you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 15: that it was going to be very difficult.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 8: What did you think we were kidding? Did you go
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: into this marriage thinking.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 15: You're just going to play house and we were going
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 15: to bail you out of trouble? Corey, this is your life,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 15: deal with your life.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: All I had to say was no, yo.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: I remember this episode and football.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: Can we acknowledge that I was the top five TV? Dad?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: He's not mentioned enough tough five for me?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 16: But if you haven't seen this episode, guess what Kury went.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 16: I'm to fixed that damn synk himself and him and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 16: Tapanga figured it out. But now that I am a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 16: father and I'm married, the thing that I take work
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 16: from the scene now is Amy on them stairs letting
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 16: her husband father his son, and it was killing her.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 16: They kept panning to her to show how much she
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 16: was struggling. She wanted to step in and save her baby,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 16: but she didn't. She sat there and allowed that man
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 16: to be a father to his son.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: She allowed that man to.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 16: Prepare his boy, who is now a man.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: And then sometimes, Mom.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: You gotta just shut the fuck up.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: God just take it.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 16: And I know it hurts, but we gotta prepare these
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 16: boys to be men.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: And that's what I am doing.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: And that's what being raised off for love looked like.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a New York thing or
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: just we was bored off of surviving, so I don't
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: know what love looked like.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: So that's why my relationships in the past I was
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: looking for that love.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: So I wish I probably had a two parent household
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: when my mom was married, But I didn't get that.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: I was that you gotta get out the house by
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: a certain time.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: You gotta be out. You gotta go outside and learn
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: how to make your own money. Oh when you do
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: get your first paycheck from McDonald's. Been in my ways
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: seven twenty five got into some bills I and I'm
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: not gonna lie this my first time saying it on camera.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: I resented my mother for that for a long time
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: because it's like that's what she was worried about.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Raised me, Oh, you gotta bring.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: Toilet issue in the house, like raise me on how
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: to be not even so much a man, but how
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: to be love with love? Though you could taught me
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: that with love and that that's what that was a
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: hard loving conversation with a family member compared to all right, well,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: if you can't contribute to this, you gotta find somewhere
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: else to stay.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: And it's just like that's crazy. I haven't.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: And by the way, Mike drop Billy agreed. I think
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: I lived that way too for a long part of
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: my life, and I envied other families I envied like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: and I kind of I definitely resented my mother like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: she's angry, you always mean, and it's always like an
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: or else, like you know what I'm saying, and you
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: better like, yo, why why are you doing this? We have?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Like why we you know what I'm saying, like, yo,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: I'm a little human being. I don't I'm not even
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: I don't have the capacity to be with you the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: way you beef with me. Bro, Like, all right, I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: messed that up. Why are you angry? Right? So I
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: understand that. But to the point of this video, right,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: do y'all think as parents, y'all have the capacity to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: allow y'all child to fail in order to make them
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: better or to let them learn real life lessons. And
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about fail a test or I'm talking
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: about getting left back or like some shit that will
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: really impact them in order for them to learn a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: real lesson.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: Can I go last, Yes, I'll say it's difficult to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: do that, but I think it's necessary. It depends on
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: it depends on the severity of it, because some stuff
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 7: leaves a lifelong impact, like, for example, the two things
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: that we hear about most often for boys ended up incarcerated,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: for girls ended up pregnant too young. Those things, if
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: you can prevent it, that's that's something that you wouldn't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: want to be Like, well, you know, you gotta learn
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: the hard way, you know what I mean. I don't
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: want my son to have to go to jail to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: learn the hard way, you know what I mean? So
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: I think there's a cap on that line of thinking.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, really, I mean sometimes you just might have to
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: send them to the jail, to the hard way. It's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: like my little brother now I got a pushback for
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: saying like he wanted to run the streets, and now
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: he's in jail calling me like, YO, keep putting money
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: in my books.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: No the fuck?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: Or you want to answer my calls. I'm not going
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: to stop what I'm doing to give you a jail call.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: To answer your jail call. Oh Bobby lonely in here, Bro,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: you chose to go in there before when you was younger,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: I used to say, you're gonna go to jail or
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: end up dying young, and your friends end up dying young.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Luckily you went to jail.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: So when you come out of jail is up to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: you what you do with that, right. So I sometimes
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: you might have to send them to jail. I don't
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: think you do. Have to show them a little self harm,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: a little bit to let you know this this world
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: is real, and like I can have so many conversations
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: with you and show you the right way, but you're
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: still gonna do what you want to do. Okay, Now
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: you have to deal with that by yourself. I'm not
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: even so much by yourself deal with the consequence is.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: But I'm gonna still be with you, but not holding
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: your hand.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: I agree, but just not like a long sentence, like
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: a scared, straight moment, slap on the wrists, go through.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: It, the long sentence. I think the long sentence might
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: have the bigger effect than a short one.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: It's tough, but we know right from wrong.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: You outside people, you outside having guns, you're outside selling drugs.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: You know they are all crimes. Why are you doing that?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: I said, you don't come work with me. I can
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: give you a job. I want that fast money.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Well it's rocket it so yesterday.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I agree.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: I feel like I understand trying your point, like you know,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: as far as like the harm aspect and try not
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: to do that. But I agree with Dodge. I feel
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: like in real life you won't have the ability to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: choose the serious the level of seriousness, so you kind
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: of have to operate from the space of letting them.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: You know, if if you're gonna, if you're gonna make
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: certain decisions, then you have to accept what comes with
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: that because I'm not always going to be here, so
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: I can't operate like, you know, I can't put you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: in that mindset because once I'm not here, then it's like,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: what is your decision making? What's your thought process? How,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: what's your you know, what's your reasoning? Like I don't
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: want to put your I don't want to set you
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: up to fail when I'm no longer here, So I
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: kind of have to let you fail a little bit
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: in order for you to succeed.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 17: In my book, Dodge, did you answer already? You want
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 17: my answers I do before I go? Yes, before you go.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: That's that what I'm gonna last.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: I struggle with my fiance, with her not being willing
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: to let them fail or let them learn from life.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: So let me go first. Let me go first. Being
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: an educator set me up for success in parenting, because
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: that's part of it. It's part of seeing these young
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: kids that you're pouring all this energy into, your pouring
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: all this knowledge into and sometimes they don't meet the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: mark and you can love them as who they are personally,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: you can love their personality and that the things that
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: they are capable of doing, but then also understanding that
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: they are not meeting the mark when it comes to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: grades and you have to feel them, because if not,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: you're pacifying bad behavior. I was always the educator that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: would say, like, I'm fair, but I'm firm. I believe
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: in love strict, I believe in I love you, and
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: I will look you in your face and tell you
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I love you. But this fifty five is on your
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: ass and I'm not changing it. I don't care how
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: much I love you. I will wipe your tears. I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: will give you a hug. I will call your mother
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: and tell your mother, please don't put him on punishment.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: It's not really his well, you know he did da
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: da da da da da da da. But that fifty
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: five is gonna stay right there in that book. That
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: is the type of parent that I am, because I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: don't want my kid. My trauma is if I die
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: early like my mom did, is my kid gonna be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: prepared for the world. And I was prepared to an
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: extent based off my morals and values, based off of
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: the things that were instilled in me young enough that
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: when she did pass, I did not go down a
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: path that I could have gone down.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: It was right there.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: The lane was open, drugs, gangs, outside, all that shit.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: It was right there. I remember distinctively the fork in
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: the road when I joined a gang. I don't know
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: if I told you I joined a gay gang before.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: It was by mistake. I didn't know it was a gang,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: but it was a gay gang. It was a whole.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: That's a that's another story. Yeah, for the studs, it was.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: It was we had crates and everything. It was child
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that the other day. But I did.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I joined a gay gang by mistake, by mistake, under
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: the guise of it being like community family, like looking
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: for that family space, the same reason why niggas joined
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: the Bloods and the crips, Like when you're lost and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: you're looking for family and you're looking for camaraderie and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: people that understand you. Like I joined this thing and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: in a time, it was amazing, and I was outside,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I was partying. I'm like seventeen eighty, I'm in all
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: the clubs. I'm at the Lab every Friday. I'm at
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: the Elks on the Saturday. Like I was outside, you understand.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: And I woke up one and I was like, niggas,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: we in a gang? Looking at my friends, like, yo,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: are we in a gang right now? Because like we're
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: inheriting beefs from just because we're a part of this thing.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: And now we're outside fighting and we're doing I'm like,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who I'm fighting, but I'm just like, oh,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: I'm in a gang. What am I gonna do with this?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: And I remember the day that we went to the house,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: the little clubhouse, and we're like, actually, this doesn't even
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: feel right, y'all niggas on some other shit. Much love
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: to y'all, but I'm about to do my own thing.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Like so, there was that very clear fork in a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: role where you're talking about police, You're talking about like
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: all of these things that I was a part of,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: And it's because of the things that were instilled in
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: me young, because I was not babied to death, because
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: I was allowed to fail, because I had a parent
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: that did not make excuses for me. And I'm doing
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: the same thing with my kid. If I say go
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: do your homework and you decide that you want to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: do half of it and then you get lunch at
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: ten tomorrow, nigga, what you calling me for? You had
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: a choice. Life is about choices. And as a mother, yes,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: we're nurturing and we're loving and we want to hold
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: on to our babies like, oh, no, it's my baby.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I don't want my baby to fail.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: But I also had to learn that when daddy put
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: his foot down, Mommy, shut the fuck up. I don't
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: care how I feel. I gotta shut the fuck up.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: And she can cry and she can be in her
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: feelings and she can be go and stomp and like, oh,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: everybody in this house hates me, you guys, Da da
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: da da. Those words hurt as a mom. But I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: gotta shut the fuck up, and I can't go run
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: after her, and I can't wipe every single tear because
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: then that becomes a manipulation, and then it turns into like,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: now you think that you don't have consequences. Now you
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: think there's no consequences to your behaviors at all. And
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: people say all the time like, yo, dads, you're strict.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not strict. Like if I say something
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: one time and you do the opposite, a consequence has
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: to come immediately, because that's how it happens in life.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: I'm to be a dickhead, to be just like the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: kids that's running around that can do whatever they want
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: and as soon as you get one sembleus of a consequence,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, y'all serious, it's not a joke. Nah, nigga,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: life is not a joke. I'm gonna hold you to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: that bar into a standard because I love you, and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: if I didn't love you, then I would pacify you.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Or if I didn't think that you can make right choices,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: then I would make all the choices for you. It's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: tough as hell, but you have to do it because
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: that is parenting. A lot of parents don't want to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: be parents. Y'all want to be friends. Y'all want your
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: kids to like you. I don't really give a fuck
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: if my kid like me right now, but I want
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: her to like me when she gets older. I want
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: to build that relationship and report when we're both adults
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: and you get it, because you could like me now
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: and agree with everything I want you to do now,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: and then you can grow up and be somebody else
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: that I would never want to be around. Because you
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: don't know boundaries, because you don't know limits, because you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: don't know consequences, I don't have no friends. That's seven
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to parent. You're not gonna like me
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: right now. You'll be right, right, you'll be right.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Some kids don't, though, are not all right sometimes.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: The parenting for me always.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: That those kids grew up resenting you for whatever, and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: they lash out in their life to hurt you. Or
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: there's a balance autonomy away from you.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: There's a balance that you do it you you you
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: leave your love. There is a balance.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Talk to them, talk to her and be like, so,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: I understand that you're mad, but you did this and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: this any other but mommy does love you, and you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: know such and such and such. But this is what
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: happens when you don't do that. Yes, some parents don't
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: have those communications, and.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. And this is why some people should
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: not fucking be parents. Some people shouldn't be parents. And
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: y'all are not ready. Y'all not ready for the You're
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: not ready for the bad and the good. You're not
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: ready for all of the things. Like y'all, it's so
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: it's easy to lash out in the be upset and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: to give punishment. It's not easy to go back and
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: say I still love you, to still tuck them in,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: to still give them a kiss at night, to look
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: them in the face and like, you know what, we
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: had a tough morning. I can't wait to see you
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: later or tomorrow is gonna be a better day. We'll
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: discuss this later. We y'all don't have y'all don't have
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: the emotional stability. I'll be letting these little kids get
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: up under your skin and be rocking your whole day. Nah,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: go scream and cry here and go take that ship
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: over there. Go to your room. Feel all your feelings,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: feel all your emotions. We could talk about this later
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: when everybody calm and fluck down. Calm down.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: I have more that I wanted to talk about with
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: this topic, but we're at the end of the exist
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: boom yeah yo, man, I h this is great. I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: find it hard being a parent. There is no right way.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: There's like the written way. You have to do it
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: like this. You gotta be water. You got to be
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: able to morph, You got to be able to bob weave.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: You got to examine each child with the way you
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: parent one child ain't gonna be the same way you
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: parent the next child. You parent them this child this way.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: At seven, you have to change the way you parent them.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: At thirteen, you have to change the way you parent them.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: At eighteen, you're still parenting at twenty two, twenty five.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: It is such a fucking journey, Dodge. You nailed it
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: in so many different ways. But you're a person too
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: as a parent. As a parent, you have your own
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: emotional issues, you have your own personality traumas, like you
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna be talking to me like that. Shit just
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: comes from somewhere else for some reason, that's how you respond.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Whereas so that might be the way I respond, Right,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: you don't. You ain't gonna talk to me like that.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Who you're talking to?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I brought you in, I'll take you out.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: Trum not gonna respond that way with And that comes
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: from our upbringing, whatever formed our personalities. And so it's
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: just crazy how all of those things affect the way
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: that you communicate with this person that you love to death. Right,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: you want the best for.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Therapy, that's true.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: But I've also heard that the first person that you
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: have to heal from is your parents. Most times, the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: first person that you have to heal from is your parents.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: And that's crazy, Right, did you really have to beat
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: my like that?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Yes? You resent thet You probably did because because of
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: what death I think, Yeah, you know, you know what
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: it is. It's not that I think that. I think
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: that when we're when we are attacking our childhood traumas,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: is very important to remember. Your perspective is the perspective
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: of you and as a child. So you don't have
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: the nuance. You don't have like the outward view. You
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: don't see everything. Like One of the things that I
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: hate more than anything else in the world is when
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: rappers say the teacher told me I was never gonna
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: be nothing. That's not true. I raised you and say that.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Nobody said that. I raise you and say that there
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: was more to that conversation. The teacher said, You're never
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be nothing if you continue to act like this.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: The teacher said, you're probably gonna end up deading in
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: jail if you continue to do the things that you
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: are doing. Y'all are hearing one part because that part
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: stuck with you, that part traumatized you, and you're not
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: remembering the rest of the conversation. You're not remember like, yeah,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: when I was growing up, old teachers they were so
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: mad at me. They used to pick on me. But
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna remember how many times they said, jakari on,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: have a seat jakari On, please sit down, jakari On,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: please do this. To Carrie On plead. It was the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: first name to pop in my head. Please Jakarion, please
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: do that. And then when the teacher said, you know
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: what I'm calling you? You're always picking on me. You
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: always calling my mother nigga? How many times I tell
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: you said the fuck down? Foreople say that and you
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: don't remember that part. And when we're talking about healing
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: our traumas from childhood, I had to come to terms
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: with something from that happened with me and my stepdad,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: because to this day he will tell anybody with ears
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: with two ears that this thing did not happen. And
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: I had to come to terms with the fact that
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: this was traumatic for me. This was a Wednesday for him.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: He don't he dead ass don't remember because it was
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: not something that was groundbreaking for him. It wasn't something
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: that was stick in his mind thirty years later. So
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: he would say, like, I never did that. I would
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: never do that. Yeah, you don't remember because it was
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: a normal ass day. You went to sleep, you woke
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: up the next day, and it did not impact you.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: It did not live in your brain and lived in
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: mind for thirty years. And that's a part of that's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: one part of parenting, which is why you always have
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: to You gotta bring the strict with the love. Is
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: love strict. If you just strict, you're an asshole. Like
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: honesty without love, it's cruelty. And that's the same thing
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: with kids.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: You talk too much love.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: I talked too much love.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: I was giving you Love's the honesty.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: I would say, the show is over right. I want
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: to say it though, real to Yah, we can't talk
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: over start paying.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Sweating on you.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: You have a fan right next to you.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they it's a table fan right there. I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: didn't see that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: I would say, and watch you have d k the
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: step parents around your kids, okay, because they're not gonna
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: love your kids more than you love your child. And
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: then some mothers are just dumb and full of come
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: and let their step parents handle their child any kind
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: of way, Like watch you have around Because a lot
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: of my triggers came from my stepfather, and I realized
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: my mother was young, dumb and fuller come and not
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: realizing how he's hurting your child. But when he had
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: his other kids with my mother, he loved him down
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: oh they the ass opens were different. I was getting
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: beat with pots and pants. They would get just don't
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: do that again. Why I gotta get beat?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: So why do you bring around your child? For real?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: Sorry? That was a God damn you've been doing some shit.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: Bro, That's just zero point twenty five of it.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: I told you want to make a therapists a lot
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: of money, trud do you.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Go to therapy?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: Before I went to therapy, I felt like, how long
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: Billy that therapist?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: I went for about two and a half years.
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  Speaker 5: But I do think I want to go back off
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  Speaker 5: the strength of not because I feel like I need help,
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  Speaker 5: because I feel like I'm in a healthy relationship in
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  Speaker 5: the situation whereas like I want to continue to show
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  Speaker 5: up to be the best person I want to be
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  Speaker 5: for this relationship and not go backwards. So just have
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  Speaker 5: this person help guid me and do some reflection, and
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  Speaker 5: that's like, you know, it's the right person.
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  Speaker 4: You got a live show coming up soon.
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  Speaker 5: Year, June Seventh's the Freak Show. People always say, what
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  Speaker 5: was the last show? The Freak Show? But this one's
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  Speaker 5: freaky and it's going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be a movie.
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  Speaker 5: If you thought it last year was a movie this one.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of hard work and time to go to
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  Speaker 5: the Freak Show. You could come. Tom will be here,
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  Speaker 5: but everybody in this room. I'll compy'll tickets. Think I'll
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  Speaker 5: give you a ticket. You can get to somebody I want.
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  Speaker 2: To be Sunday. If the Freak Show on sunday're not
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  Speaker 2: going to hell.
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  Speaker 4: If y'all saw me performing last year in a boxing
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  Speaker 4: role with and I was punching booty, that was at yo.
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  Speaker 4: You know I'm right now I'm speaking.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, he's going back to o.
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  Speaker 4: Taha.
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  Speaker 2: You was in a boxer. It was about you. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so sorry. I was just I was just showing him
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  Speaker 2: that I have today's birthday and my phone because I'm
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  Speaker 2: a good friend. Ahead promote you was you was in
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  Speaker 2: a boxing room. He was ready. He was punching ass cheeks.
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  Speaker 2: I remember story.
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  Speaker 3: It was fighting back.
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  Speaker 4: He he has live choreography the dances from one of
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  Speaker 4: our from our last play party. Billy referred to those dances. Yo.
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  Speaker 4: When I tell you, his show is literally a whole experience.
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  Speaker 4: It is not just people sitting on the stage talking.
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  Speaker 4: There's a whole runner show and a whole thing games
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  Speaker 4: as well that you play in the crowd needs to
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  Speaker 4: be studied. Also, please go over to the YouTube when
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  Speaker 4: I tell you his show is that entertaining. I went
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  Speaker 4: to go get the stuff from the for the from
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  Speaker 4: the damn pod from him talking about the party and
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  Speaker 4: found other ship that I wanted to talk with him about.
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  Speaker 3: So to study.
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  Speaker 2: King he said it or he did it.
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  Speaker 4: He did it perfect.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is not hard usaw Yo, there to
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  Speaker 6: show shameless game.
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  Speaker 4: Thank y'all for coming out. I appreciate y'all trying. But
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  Speaker 4: it's the same nigga that tells us that he can
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  Speaker 4: have sex with women all night whatever is needed. He
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  Speaker 4: can do all night, all night. I'm good, but he
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  Speaker 4: cannot sit in that chair too long before. Look at
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: him stand Look at him standing up.
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  Speaker 2: You can't nigga that you're just standing our show.
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  Speaker 4: Me and Yo, Billy, where can they find you?
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  Speaker 2: This motherfucker is a yo. This is what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: You listen to your favorite podcast or youtubet needs to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: be study podcasts or instagram at Billy got the bad guy?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Hope you guys enjoyed the lightness
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: of this week's showing that we've had so much turmoil
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  Speaker 4: last two weeks. Shout out to all of you. We
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  Speaker 4: will see you next week, so.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Jueses can come on your show, your show. I don't
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  Speaker 2: never want to show, nobody show. I'll be wanting to
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  Speaker 2: go nowhere.
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  Speaker 4: Let's set that up.
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  Speaker 3: What didn't it make saying record and not the book
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  Speaker 3: is session here and record after y'all