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264: Foreign Beef Imports: Should the Government Handle and Label It with John Campbell · CattleUSA Daily

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In today's podcast episode with John Campbell, we are bringing
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him on once again to breakdown all the live cattle markets that
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we are seeing over the past week.
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John discusses the Super Bowl and his thoughts, predictions,
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things that went right, things that maybe didn't go quite right
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with the Super Bowl based off of his predictions from last week.
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We also are going in to a discussion on Screwworm and the
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southern border and markets, and then we break into a discussion
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and a comment about someone's comment that they made on one of
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our YouTube videos and have a pretty thought provoking
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discussion surrounding the meat industry and foreign beef
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Without further ado, let's go ahead and hear from John.
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Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily Podcast, your go to source for
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the latest livestock markets, industry insights and the
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I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a passionate advocate for
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agriculture here to keep you informed and connected.
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Now let's dive into today's episode.
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John, welcome back to another podcast.
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How are you? How has your week been in
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wonderful Colorado, but it looks like you're in Oklahoma now
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spending some time with the family and the grandkids.
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How's it all been? Everything's good, you know, it
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been really, really warm in Colorado at A at a good sale
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this week and and have a special cow sale next week and numbers
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kind of starting to wind down a little bit, but had some
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business to do out east. So make making a quick loop
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here. I love it.
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That's wonderful. That's wonderful to hear.
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Well, how are our markets doing this week?
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You know, pretty good. We were a little lighter, which
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that's pretty seasonal for US. 17185 cattle here in La Jolla.
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I thought steady on the steers, kind of a short supply of
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heppers, but getting right into it, some 330 lbs black steers at
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6:55. Our best 4 weight cattle weighed
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4 and 1/4 at 595 S Nothing cheaper there. 5 weight cattle
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up to 510. The little light heifers 330 at
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5:15, 4/20 at 482 1/2 and 520 at 432 1/2.
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I thought the feeder steers and heifers coupled 2-3 bucks better
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this week. 6 weight steers to 449.
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We did have some 720 lbs steers about steady on them at 393 1/2,
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but we did have several loads of eight weight cattle and I
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thought that's where we really saw other thing appreciate some
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up to 362 and a quarter on some 830 LB steers effort side a deal
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kind of the same 6 weight hampers up to 411 which you know
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we that's kind of the area we've been trading in for two or three
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weeks, but some 7 weight hampers up to 367 1/2.
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So market was market was great. I mean people from all over
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still signing up and and the deal just keeps rolling right
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along. It absolutely does, which is
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encouraging as we go into some of these busy months and things
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like that. How are we feeling regionally?
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You know Riverton, WY a shout out to them.
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Some 385 LB steers up to six O 7 1/2.
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Four and a quarter weight steers up at Riverton 562 1/2.
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But they had some 550 weight cattle up to north of $5 and six
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weight cattle. Pretty much similar to ours. 445
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over on the half or side at Winter Livestock, Riverton, WY,
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3 weight heifers to 612 and a half, 465 at 465.
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Six weight heifers up to 397. Little lighter receipts up
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there. But boy, the wheat run is on.
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It's gotten a little dry and and cattle have really performed
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well out on the wheat. So we're ahead of schedule as
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far as the wheat run goes. I would say it'll be interesting
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to see what develops in Pratt, KS today, but they were going to
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have 35104 thousand cattle there today on Thursday.
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Big sale in Salina as well. Dodge City yesterday, 4000, 779
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cattle and they called their cattle 2 to $8 better, three
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weight steers 622 1/2 four weight stairs.
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Again this is Dodge City 568 some five and a quarter weight
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cattle up to 517. They had some outstanding 6
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weight steers up to 475 and 7 weight cattle to four O 9. 8
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weight cattle to 380. I mean you're talking
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substantially I are there some big 9 weight guys up to 354
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heifer complex in Dodge City KS Lightweight heifers weighing
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just just a little on top of four bring 5 and a quarter five
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way to heifers now at 5:12. Six weight heifers AT4347 weight
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heifers at 382 1/2 and 8 weight cattle at 3:00 41.
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So dry weather, outstanding market and conditions on on, on
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that wheat. Why?
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They're everybody kind of pulling these cattle forward,
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and with these levels, you can't really blame them.
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Yeah, for sure it is a good time to be selling right now as we
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have seen across the region and it's encouraging.
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I know a lot of people need some moisture in their lives.
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They need some of that winter snow.
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But it's nice to see some of that clear up and people get
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back to selling and get back to normal markets and all of those
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things. So John, what are what are your
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thoughts on the Super Bowl? We did not.
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Your prediction unfortunately did not come true.
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I hate to break it to you, but I would love to hear your
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interpretation and your thoughts.
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Well, I I want to apologize first to everybody for my
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futures advice. The markets really struggled
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Monday and Tuesday. The cash was good, but the
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commodity market struggled and didn't really find much
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direction until about Wednesday after Sunday's Super Bowl and
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post halftime activities. Or they really, you know, they
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started out good. We we were on track.
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I think everyone in IT attendance agreed that the
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performers were lousy, so there was no problem from the get go
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getting them all back board. But after that, why?
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The plan really kind of went to hell.
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The Eid tagging was unsuccessful.
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Most of the halftime performers, when questioned, were unsure
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about their own sex, and the animal health professionals were
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understandably unable to determine gender just by looking
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at them. So that kind of shot a hole in
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the Eid tag and also the recent vet school graduates that we
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lined up with the emasculators, why they didn't have any hands
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on experience. And I don't think any of them
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had actually seen a rabbit testicle or knew even where to
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look. And obvious lack of testicular
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development and distinction on the part of the performers
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really complicated the situations.
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Yeah, we, we, we had some trouble.
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And I'd also like to publicly admit that I had alternative
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motives, and I thought this was a good platform to come clean.
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Not only did I want to rid the world of an invasive species of
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rabbit, but I also knew that our birthday boy Dan had just
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purchased a bunch of steers and I wanted to try to help him on
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his commodity position. So anyway, there it is, public
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apology. I'm going to leave the futures
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market forecasting up to Dan and Samantha from now on.
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Well, there's always next year on your plans and your
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aspirations. Do not let them go, John.
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I truly believe in you, in your vision, and we will be better
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next year. And there will be a true
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movement for the Super Bowl next year, led by Mr. John Campbell
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himself. Well, I, I appreciate it, but
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like I said, I'd like to say that it was for the good of, of
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and a lot of it was and we were successful in parts of it, but
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it just didn't come together and, and, and I think I was
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thinking a little too big. And so anyway, I apologize.
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Yes, yes. Well, we will leave those
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futures markets up to Dan the birthday boy.
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It was apparently Dan's birthday yesterday and he didn't let us
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know. So John and I are here to make
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sure everyone knows that it was Dan's birthday yesterday and you
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need to go comment on that podcast.
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Happy birthday to Dan all. Embarrassed the everliving
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bejesus out of him. So yes, indeed.
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Happy birthday, Dan, and you know I mean it.
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At least you're not. Here.
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What the hell? Oh, OK.
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I'm sorry. Anyway.
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Sorry. Sorry.
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There's, there's a lot of animosity there, John.
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I I don't know if Dan and I can be friends the same way that we
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were. I I heard, I heard and I'm I'm
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trying to, I'm trying to throttle down, but being from
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Colorado, I, I've got my own problems to deal with that go
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way beyond those Jay Hawkers do have a good basketball team.
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I I will give them that. But and and Dan, the politics,
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you, you get it that Far East and you better stay in Iowa on
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on that deal because it's it's going to be an uphill battle for
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you. And you know, I'm on your side.
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But man, Samantha, Lauren, there's my daughter, my
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son-in-law, my money, you know, it all went a went another
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direction. And Dan, a little little
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consideration for that. I mean, we're your people now.
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Exactly. I'm going to, I'm going to stop
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with that because I don't want to damage my friendship with
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Dan. Yes, got to, got to value that
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for sure, for sure. Well, what do you have for our
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main topic today, Mr. John Campbell, what you got for us?
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Well, you know, I have a pretty kind of interesting news that
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would be it's out if you watch it on Facebook.
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But I have a good customer in southern New Mexico who owns
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ranches on on both sides of the border.
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He's fluent in Spanish and, and we in fact sell all of his US
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cattle. But he also has a ranch in
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Sonora. And, you know, he gave me some
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news and it it's available out there on the Mexican screw worm
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the last week. The president of Chihuahua's
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Cattlemen's Union, his name is Alvaro Castillos.
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I hope I'm saying that right, but I believe that's right.
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Double L is AY sound, you know, in Spanish that that's one of
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the few things that I know. But anyway, he announced that
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his state, Chihuahua and Sonora, they're taking care of the screw
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worm problem within their respective states.
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You know, Sonora and Chihuahua are the only states that are
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actually, According to him, blocking cattle coming from the
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southern region. And I would I would believe it.
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And he also went really into great lengths about how the
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Mexican federal government given in his words, 0 pesos to the
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effort. And the Mexico has states, most
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of you know that just like we do in the United States and their
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local representation and the, and the states are big.
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They are, I I think doing something and, and, and they are
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pretty, pretty tough. But I think it's obvious that
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even after and before that, any screwworm prevention will have
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to come from the US side and in and the individual states there.
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As I mentioned, the cattlemen's unions are really strong.
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But my Spanish, as I said, is limited.
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But the Mexican federal government?
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No bueno per shit. So it you probably don't need
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help interpreting that. But on the bright side, Congress
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is promoting the Safe Cattle Act, which would would require
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the USDA and the Department of the Interior to carry out Acts
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activities to prevent, control and eradicate screwworm.
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And that's where it's going to have to come from.
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Thank you, Representatives Jackson and Harriet Hegman,
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along with a couple others that are promoting that.
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Hopefully we we can get that passed.
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And whether, you know, whether you agree with Mexican cattle
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coming in or not, I think everybody can agree or we got to
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nip this screw worm deal in the butt before it comes north.
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And, and I think them cooperating with the individual
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States and, and not so much the federal government because like
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I said, he said, the federal government in Mexico is doing
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nothing. So it it's up to the individual
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States and they would be limited, you know, a cattlemen's
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union in funds. So we all knew if we're going to
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do anything about it, we're going to have to do something
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about it. Yeah, there's nothing new there.
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And I think that it's no surprise that the Mexican
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government isn't doing Jack Squad about it.
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And that's why we've already had to intervene and step in, in all
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of the different preventative measures that we've already had
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to start taking in our southern states.
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And I mean, you look historically, look at all of the
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years prior to this of the work that we've done to try in Mexico
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as the United States, the work we've done in Mexico to try and
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keep screw worm at the Panama Canal.
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We've done millions of dollars worth of work over the past few
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years in that alone. And so I don't think it comes as
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surprise as a surprise to many producers that we're having to
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step in once again. But thankfully, the individual
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states, it sounds like are taking some authority in that
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and trying to help out our fellow cattlemen and make this
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an issue that hopefully is continued to be contained and
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under control because no one wants it.
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Mexico got doesn't want it. Our Mexican ranchers don't want
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it. Our southern states don't want
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it. And I think it needs to be
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acknowledged as it is everyone's problem right now because if
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it's not your problem right now, it will be eventually.
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And so I think that it's time we start taking ownership over that
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as a cattle industry and acknowledge that we all have a
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role to play in this. Exactly.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Any other thoughts, Mr. John? Well, last week we did have a
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listener question and comment and I thought I I, it was the
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end of last week and I thought I would address it.
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This comes from an individual in Kansas.
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I thought it was pretty thought provoking.
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And he said why doesn't the government take control of
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handling all of foreign beef imports?
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Rather than putting a huge supply into the hands of the big
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Four, the government could label it as such and distribute it.
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And he mentioned that the recently closed Lexington plant
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would be a good answer. I thought it was a great
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question. You know what the government
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become a competitor with the BIG4, provide a label for all
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the foreign beef cheaper product for the consumer.
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You know, the product is already coming here.
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So we, we've got to deal with it in some fashion and it would
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prevent blending with, you ask me if it was distributed
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directly to the end user and provide employment for thousands
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of workers. I, I, I think it's something to
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think about. Do we want government in the
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meat business? Well, you know that that's part
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of the, that's part of the equation there.
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Are they already in it And and might be better than having
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Brazilian owned companies in in the meat business.
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Who do you want to deal with and but also how it would ultimately
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affect the cattle price any more or less than than it already
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does. You know, one thing we have to
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remember, 45% of the beef consumed in the US is hamburger
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and imports are 90 some percent lean.
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So I'm, I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
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That was just, I just thought it was an excellent analogy, a
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great question. And for those of you listening
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out there, why give us a comment on that.
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What, what are your thoughts? What, what do you think?
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And we, we do go through all, all of those comments and I just
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thought this was a great one and, and we ought to present it.
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And we really would like to hear your feedback because that kind
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of helps guide this show. And, and we'll give you our
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thoughts on it and whether you agree or disagree.
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But I think many times that that's how ideas come about and
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we can promote an agenda and we'd like your help in doing it.
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Yeah, for sure. What are your thoughts on it,
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John? And then I'll share mine.
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You know, I and he just made the statement.
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I, I mean, I kind of added the part about being a competitor
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with, with the big four. I really don't know, you know,
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the, the government has already decided that they're going to be
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part of the beef equation. And so maybe there's something
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to, OK, let them handle it. But sometimes you have to be
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careful what you wish for exactly, especially rather when
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when you're dealing with the government, OK, they could keep
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it from being blended with other product that that seems to be
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paramount. And everybody's thought they
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could label it because they're handling 100% of it.
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So if you want to Argentine label on, on beef going out the,
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the, it's a huge equation because then what do you do when
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McDonald's buys Australian beef as they already do, buys
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Brazilian beef as they already do?
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Does that label follow the product onto your hamburger?
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And your wrapper says product may contain ground beef from
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Australia? Because it already does.
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And I'm just throwing ideas out out there.
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It's a huge undertaking. But you know, there's a side of
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me that says, well, hell, I guess I'd come closer to trust
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in the government. If you want to get the price of
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beef down, well, don't put it in that.
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You know, we're going to let all this extra Argentine beef, which
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amounts to nothing in, but we're putting it right in the hands of
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the big four. And we're saying, Oh well, hell,
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give it to them and, and they'll pass it out a lot cheaper.
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They know what price people are willing to pay and don't think
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if they buy it cheaper, they're going to pass it along to
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everybody else and get the price of the product down.
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They're going to hold the line in my opinion, as to what the
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consumer is willing to pay. And we're seeing the consumer is
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willing to pay quite a bit. So maybe you replace that
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foreign entity with the US government.
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But again. It's kind of thought provoking.
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What does that do to the price of our cattle?
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Then? Hey, go buy it from the
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government. Hell, you can buy hamburger from
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the government for $2.16 a pound and it's all, you know,
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Argentine, Brazilian, Australian beef.
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But you damn sure get it cheaper.
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And the proponents of the labeling would say, well, that's
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great. They need to identify it and
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separate it. But again, I'm back to my
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analogy. Be careful what you went for
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because that may domino over into the price of our meat and
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in order to be competitive, then that brings the price of our
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beef down. So something to think about.
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But in answer to your question, I don't know what I I don't know
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what I think about it. Who ultimately do you want
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handle in it? You think the Brazilians are
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going to cut you a hell of a break because they're getting
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more product in from urgent and pass the savings along or you
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know that that's always been the NCB as big play.
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Well, we don't need any more government in our business.
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Well, I'm here to say the government's already in our
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business and so hell, shove them to the front.
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Let him take the role and that'll satisfy all the cool
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label people and and get the beef price down.
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Put more people back to work da da da da da.
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But like I said, maybe we better be careful.
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On the other hand. Yeah, I would say that this is
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for me a conversation, a topic that I don't have a fully formed
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opinion on, but I will say some initial thoughts that I have.
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I lean on the side of less government intervention wherever
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we can get it. I think that we all acknowledge
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that the government is already in it, but let's not give them
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official power over another sector.
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Especially when I think about the fact that we are in a
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certain administration right now, that administration is
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going to change. That administration changes
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every four years and with that government control changes.
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So if government control would be over a part of the packing
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industry and that they would have authority in that space,
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that would consistently change with each new administration.
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And so I think that there is a very large trickle down effect
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that this would then have into the rest of the beef industry
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that from an economic impact we need to take into consideration.
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Because you made some really great points, John, of the fact
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that like would this trickle down into the quality and the
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price of our beef as US producers to try and stay
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competitive? I think that that is a real
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question that we need to ask because the majority of beef
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purchased in the United States is ground beef.
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Yes, we provide a great quality beef product.
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I would love to see a label that says product of the USA on
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there. But at the same time AI think we
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need another. We need another product label
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like we need a kick in the ass. It adds a large amount of
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complexity to the current structure of how we do beef and
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how we process beef. And it also I don't as can as
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producers, we would love to see that.
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We would love to see a label that says product in the USA.
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Is that actually going to change any consumer behavior when they
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go to the counter to purchase? I think that we like to think
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that it would, but in the grand scheme of things, I don't think
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it will. I think the majority of people
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that purchase our product do not give a crap.
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And if they see the same product, the same product, I'm
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saying that in quotations on the shelf and one says product of
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Australia or product of Argentina and one says product
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of the USA and the product of the USA one is 3 or 4 times as
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much. They're going to go with the
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cheaper option because that is the economic ability that they
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have in that. And so yes, they're still eating
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beef. That's great.
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We want people to eat beef no matter what, but I think then
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we're going to see an economical trickle down effect into the
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current things. I do not agree that the big four
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should have the authority that they do.
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I think that we need to see some more independent Packers come
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up. And I think that if we were
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having this hypothetical conversation, I would prefer it
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to be an independent Packer situation that instead of a
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government entity having control over this and doing it pay,
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let's send all the foreign beef to these independent Packers or
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these independent entities and then they can choose how they
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would like to be competitive in the marketplace because of that.
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But I think A, we need less government intervention, not
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more B. Again, the label thing, I'm
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always going to revert back to the fact of is it actually going
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to make an effect to our consumers purchasing decisions
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at the end of the day. And I really lean in to know and
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yeah, that's my those are my initial thoughts.
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Those are my initial thoughts. Again, still a opinion forming
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in it and something that I'd be open to hearing other people's
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thoughts and opinions because that coming my preconceived
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notion on different topics all kind of converging together into
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one. But yeah, I'd love to hear what
25:11
other people think on this too, because it's a very, very
25:14
thought provoking question. Yeah.
25:16
And it's just it. That's not the gospel with that,
25:20
that we're not saying that's going to happen.
25:22
That was just a listener that made what I thought was an
25:25
excellent comment. And, you know, if we want to the
25:30
government's not willing to break the Packers up, enforce
25:33
the Sherman antitrust, enforce monopoly laws that have been
25:37
existence forever. It doesn't seem like we're
25:40
making any progress now. Maybe we are because I I, I know
25:43
they're investigating that. Maybe this is another Ave. to
25:46
break the Packers up. He'll get more competition And
25:51
then to lend what you said, that's the government's initial
25:54
role. And then maybe you nominate
25:57
yourself to Hey, I'm an independent guy.
26:00
I want a piece of the action so you can bid on the government's
26:05
control if you want to distribute some of this and,
26:08
and, and, and, and maybe spread that business out into some
26:12
independent people and use that as a vehicle to create more
26:17
competition from the private sector.
26:20
If we're going to continue to get foreign B, which which I
26:23
think our government and Lauren and I have talked about it
26:26
numerous times. They're convinced they want to
26:31
feed these people cheap. And, and so if that is
26:34
inevitable and we are going to continue to get foreign beef,
26:39
well, then by God, let the government handle all the
26:41
foreign beef and label it, but then phase themselves out of it
26:46
by opening up, you know, somehow a percentage of the business to
26:51
the private sector. And we'll eventually dissolve
26:56
this, this thing and make a bunch of independent competitors
27:01
against the BIG4 with, with, with the foreign beef entity.
27:05
And, and like I said, I, I just see it blowing up.
27:07
Well, we don't want any foreign beef at all.
27:09
Hell, don't let them know again. Well, OK, and, and I'm not
27:12
saying that's not my stance either, but it's here and, and
27:17
we're dealing with it. So wouldn't this be a better
27:20
solution than giving it to the hands of the BIG4 hackers that
27:25
have already put us in the position that we're in?
27:28
Let's get some more competition within it.
27:30
And if the government can incentivize that and create it,
27:34
so so be it. If we're going to have to deal
27:36
with it anyway, now maybe we just get completely rid of it,
27:39
but I think that's a bigger challenge and maybe then
27:43
promoting a little more competition.
27:45
Yeah, absolutely. It's the situation of we have to
27:49
dance with the devil. It's how you choose to go about
27:51
that dance. It's here.
27:55
We don't have a choice in it. It's a part of our reality.
27:59
Yeah, you can throw your fist in the air and bitch and complain
28:02
and moan and do all of these things, but at the end of the
28:04
day, control your controllables. And that is something out of our
28:07
independent control. If you have an opinion on it, I
28:10
encourage you to go find someone that can make a change in that
28:12
opinion, but not make a change in your opinion.
28:15
Make a change in the thing that you have an opinion on.
28:18
Yeah, we have to dance with the devil.
28:20
It's how we choose to go about it.
28:21
And I think that there is no perfect answer on any of it, but
28:26
thought provoking questions nonetheless.
28:28
And something to definitely think about as we continue to go
28:32
forward, because I think we're in a very pivotal time in the
28:34
beef industry and that we are going to see a lot of change in
28:38
the next five years. And what that looks like is up
28:41
to us, up to the independent producers making their voices,
28:45
their thoughts, their opinions heard.
28:47
And who knows, maybe a comment on a YouTube video that then
28:51
gets discussed and talked about makes it to the right people and
28:54
some change and things can be heard from our independent
28:57
people as well. Well, and, and you've got an
29:00
administration now that like them or hate them, boy, it's
29:03
pretty obvious to me that they're open to some ideas.
29:08
I mean, Kennedy just came out at the Cattlemen's deal saying, you
29:13
know, we want we want more US beef, we want US beef producers
29:18
to grow and to do this. And you say, well, on the short
29:21
one, well, why in the hell are you getting more Australian beef
29:24
in there? Why did you drop the tariff on
29:26
all of them? That's a short term solution
29:29
according to Trump. But, but I do think they are of
29:32
the mindset as a collective group to promote USB and, and to
29:40
expand the the the beef herd so we can become a little more
29:44
independent in our food source. And that's something that why,
29:48
Cripe sakes, in all my years in the business, I can't even
29:52
remember when any administration even addressed the problem, let
29:56
alone embraced it like the current one does.
29:59
Yeah, absolutely. You make a really good point
30:02
there that I unfortunately wasn't able to sit in on that
30:05
speech and that conversation because I was in a meeting
30:08
during it. But from everyone that I heard
30:11
it is it is a very encouraging to have the beef industry very
30:16
top of mind to people so high up in our governmental chain.
30:19
Now that does not mean I want them talking to reporters about
30:23
the beef industry, but it is great that they are thinking
30:26
about the beef industry and that those conversations are being
30:29
had be a fan of the short term solutions or not.
30:32
There's the reality of the fact that we do have to keep up with
30:34
beef demand and as domestic producers we are not able to do
30:37
that with the product that we are producing right now.
30:39
I think that that is a reality and a fact of the situation and
30:42
So what we have to look at what solutions we can have in that in
30:46
the meantime and go with the flow of the roller coaster ride
30:49
that we are on because boy, oh boy, this market is a roller
30:53
coaster ride. Yeah, for sure.
30:57
Absolutely. Well, John, do you have any
30:59
other closing comments for us or thoughts?
31:01
Well, I think that's about it. I'll say we we have another
31:05
listener comment along that lines, but a little more to the
31:09
point and we'll we'll talk about this next week.
31:12
But guys send us your comments really and we'll look at
31:16
anything even the guy that said or nor I neither one know which
31:20
when it end of the cow gets up first.
31:22
And after looking at 7 million of them over 47 years, I got a
31:28
pretty good idea, but I'm probably not as versed as well
31:31
as you are, whoever you may be. But anyway, and that's fine.
31:36
Hell, you take a run at me. I I think it's great.
31:39
More, more conversation you. I won't speak for Lauren, but
31:43
I'm not saying I'm right 100% on everything you're getting.
31:46
You're getting my opinion based off dealing with the cattle
31:51
industry every day for 45 years. And, and if you don't like it,
31:55
you can go somewhere else and watch them.
31:57
Anyway, not to be short, but we do like the comments and and
32:01
like I said, you get some, there's a lot of intelligent
32:04
people out there and I, I thought this guy made a great
32:08
comment and it's something to expand on and we would sincerely
32:14
like to hear from you. We absolutely would.
32:17
Well, John, thank you for your time as always to all of our
32:20
listeners, thank you for being here for another episode of the
32:23
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32:32
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32:34
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32:37
As always, thank you for listening.
32:38
John, thank you for your time and we will see you all next
32:40
time on another episode of the Cattle USA Daily Podcast.
32:44
Have a good one y'all.