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Growing Up as Isiah Thomas’ Son | Zeke Thomas Unfiltered (Born To The Game Podcast) · Born To The Game Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Huh, guess yours don't know?
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest. There is special guest, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but we have an additional again.
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  Speaker 3: Special guests around here.
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  Speaker 4: Mark, Come on, Mark, we have our special guests.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, and welcome back to a special edition
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  Speaker 2: of Born to the Game. I'm your host Mariah Woodson,
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  Speaker 2: daughter of NBA coach and former NBA player Mike Woodson.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm Tamara Payton, niece of Mike Woodson, and we're
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  Speaker 5: so excited to have you guys on this journey with
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  Speaker 5: us straight from NBA Summerleague twenty twenty five here at
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  Speaker 5: Sirius XIM Studios at the Beautiful Win Hotel, Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're new here, Born to the Game is
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  Speaker 2: the podcast where legacy meets real life. We sit down
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  Speaker 2: with the children of legends, from athletes, entertainers, and power
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  Speaker 2: players to talk about what life was really like growing
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  Speaker 2: up in the spotlight and what it takes to build
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  Speaker 2: your own name and trust us.
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  Speaker 5: Today's guest knows exactly what that feels like. He's an
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  Speaker 5: accomplished DJ activist, a creative force, and he just happens
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  Speaker 5: to be the son of NBA Hall of Famer and
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  Speaker 5: the legendary Isaiah Thomas Slease.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Zig Thomas.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody for having me.
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  Speaker 2: My gosh, you know I have to have you here.
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  Speaker 3: This is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we in Vegas, Okay, phenomenal, We.
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  Speaker 2: Got hold on, we got viewers don't know. We got
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  Speaker 2: a special guest. Very there are special guests, but we
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  Speaker 2: have an additional We.
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  Speaker 3: Do have an additional special guests rolling around here. Mars,
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  Speaker 3: come on, come here, Marsie.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he is he is? Okay, O cute
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  Speaker 2: you guys, look at Mars.
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  Speaker 5: We have our special guests, ladies and gentlemen, Mars friends, Mars.
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  Speaker 2: We are y Mars. He just he just made my day.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, we had to introduce Mars. But we are
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  Speaker 2: so glad to have you Zeke. This I feel like
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  Speaker 2: this conversation and has been a long time coming, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just happy that we get to talk about your family, identity, legacy, pressure,
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  Speaker 2: purpose and just the hustle of carving your own lane.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah. And you know, as we were gossiping prior
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  Speaker 4: to this, you know, it's it's amazing the way legacy
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  Speaker 4: and lineage, it all, it all comes in. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I was saying, you know, my dad's legacy, A big
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  Speaker 4: part of it started because your dad helped recruit him
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  Speaker 4: to Indiana University. Wow, and you know that's where he
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  Speaker 4: met my mom. And you know that DNA produced this great.
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  Speaker 2: DA and the gene.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well we're we're going to get started. That's so
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  Speaker 2: you're ready to all right, So we're going to ask
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  Speaker 2: you describe being born to the game in three words.
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  Speaker 2: Take a time.
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  Speaker 5: I love the breath, anticipation like right, yeah, resilient.
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  Speaker 3: Duty, yeah, and luck.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Those are good. Yeah, those are great. Those are great.
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  Speaker 2: So let's dive into duty. Yes, why why duty? We're
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  Speaker 2: thinking we're twins, but yes, why duty?
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  Speaker 4: You know, as classified Black Americans in America in society,
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  Speaker 4: and as we're going through this new time of you know,
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  Speaker 4: the the weaponization of the American government for the first
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  Speaker 4: time isn't solely focused on Black America. Tino America are
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  Speaker 4: getting a lot of heat right now. But that doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean that I'm not a part of the second generation
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  Speaker 4: out of Jim Crow. My dad was part of the
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  Speaker 4: first generation. So when I say duty, it's we have
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  Speaker 4: to carry this legacy that our parents built, that they
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  Speaker 4: built off the backs of people who had suffered prior
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  Speaker 4: to them, immensely from slavery on down, and to get
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  Speaker 4: to the top, to be hall of fame, to be
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  Speaker 4: not just a Hall of Famer, but also a Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame dad, a Hall of Fame person. My parents
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  Speaker 4: still together to this day, rocking out about to celebrate
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  Speaker 4: I believe their fortieth.
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  Speaker 3: Them all blast.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like, that's beautiful when you truly have a
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  Speaker 4: model of a healthy black family, the duty.
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  Speaker 3: To continue that.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I'm a gay black man, so I
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  Speaker 4: feel I have a different amount of pressure on my
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  Speaker 4: shoulders that I've been given from the ancestors to Hey,
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  Speaker 4: this is what you gotta do. This is the people
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  Speaker 4: who you have to lead. And if you want to
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  Speaker 4: fall into this duty, wow, be responsible and respectful of it.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Well wow, I that's incredible.
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  Speaker 5: I I wanna we're gonna go to our next segment
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  Speaker 5: because you just kind of dropped a bomb. Duty is
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  Speaker 5: a big word, and we're gonna we're gonna kind of
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  Speaker 5: come back to it later in the interview, but but.
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  Speaker 2: Before, can we talk about luck. That's what I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna do. A lot uses that word a lot, just
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  Speaker 2: in sports, right, just even to be successful and to
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  Speaker 2: get to the place that they are currently, you do
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  Speaker 2: have to have a little bit of luck.
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  Speaker 5: Right, I mean also the statistics of getting in the league. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't have the stat with us, but it's so.
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  Speaker 2: Small, it's so small.
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  Speaker 3: There's only I think.
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  Speaker 4: Less than twelve thousand people have ever gotten to play
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: I think that number is actually like five thousand, wild
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  Speaker 2: less than six thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean it's like six thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Faith.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't say that, we were just saying bat check me.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's about six thousand.
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  Speaker 5: But then on top of that, you the Hall of
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  Speaker 5: Fame Park, like that's even that it's probably even Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the work that it takes to to get there,
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  Speaker 4: for him to do it, and then to sustain it after,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So I I was born in eighty eight.
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  Speaker 4: My dad went back to back championships, but then retired
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  Speaker 4: in I think ninety three ninety four, So the majority
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  Speaker 4: of my memories are really of my dad being an
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  Speaker 4: owner of the Toronto Raptors, a team president, and a
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  Speaker 4: head coach with the Knicks and the Pacers. So I
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  Speaker 4: got to see the game on a different side. And
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  Speaker 4: I was lucky to get that opportunity, and I was
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  Speaker 4: lucky to be able to have the to share, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the cool stories of the first time I got to
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  Speaker 4: New York. I was welcome there, did the whole press conference,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm there with my dad and who takes us out,
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  Speaker 4: Spike Lee?
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  Speaker 3: Where do we go the club? Talking?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 3: That's lucky. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't realize how lucky it would be for me
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  Speaker 4: personally to move from Indiana to New York.
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  Speaker 3: Those are two very different place any different.
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  Speaker 2: And we're going to ask you about it. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to go back there. Let's we'll talk about but.
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  Speaker 5: You segued us into our next portion of the interview
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  Speaker 5: is about yours, about the early life and the dailies
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  Speaker 5: about when you were a kid and what that looked
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  Speaker 5: like and traveling did you guys, did you travel with
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  Speaker 5: your dad?
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  Speaker 2: Did you stay in one place? What was that like?
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  Speaker 4: I was always at my dad's hip like, and my
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  Speaker 4: dad always brought me with him and I thank him
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  Speaker 4: for that. And my dad's definitely a family person and
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  Speaker 4: we're a tight family. We like to hang together, watch
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  Speaker 4: TV together, talk about everything together. Nothing is off limits.
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  Speaker 4: We moved from Detroit to Indiana to New York.
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  Speaker 2: And at what age moved.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see when I was in sixth grade.
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  Speaker 4: Move when I was in tenth grade.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, those are hard grades because that's the middle school
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  Speaker 5: and then it's like high school.
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  Speaker 2: So like those are two really and.
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  Speaker 3: Then we had some false starts, okay, yeah, like being
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA, you know, you might get traded.
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  Speaker 4: Or whatever, and we had some some false starts. Almost
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  Speaker 4: ended up in Atlanta that didn't happen. But I remember,
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  Speaker 4: like we had a house and like you know how
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  Speaker 4: like you get like the picture pairing yourself to move,
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  Speaker 4: but that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Happen.
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  Speaker 4: We almost moved to Toronto again and had a house
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  Speaker 4: and stuff the picture even like a shadowed at a
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  Speaker 4: school that didn't happen. So the the moving around that
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  Speaker 4: was not good for me.
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  Speaker 2: So explain more like talk about's heart to find how
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  Speaker 2: was that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an outgoing person.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a really at all.
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  Speaker 4: So I've always found it pretty easy for me to
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  Speaker 4: meet people, engage with people. And that's a definitely a
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  Speaker 4: skill that I think I had to develop just from
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  Speaker 4: moving and also.
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  Speaker 3: Being the child of a celebrity. I really I didn't
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  Speaker 3: like as a kid. The thing that I didn't like them,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm still asked this question, which is weird. It's
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  Speaker 3: really weird, really weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird.
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  Speaker 4: Are you as great a basketball player as your dad? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Talk about it?
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  Speaker 3: Did such a weird question?
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  Speaker 2: Did he make you play? Was that something he pressured
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  Speaker 2: you into doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Pressure me to play? But I love to play
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  Speaker 3: and I played.
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  Speaker 2: Were you good at it?
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  Speaker 3: I was a great defensive, a great defense.
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  Speaker 2: Did you and Pops ever play one on one? And
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  Speaker 2: I mean you're the defense ones game?
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  Speaker 4: Played one on one a lot? Okay, he played twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: We played one on one and he definitely helped me
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  Speaker 4: improve my game. Now I do remember Indiana, and this
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  Speaker 4: is definitely fact checked.
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  Speaker 3: We were playing on the Pacers practice corps. At that time.
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  Speaker 3: It was called Conseco field House. Now I think it's
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  Speaker 3: game Bridge field House and you know I won.
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  Speaker 5: Wait can we call it? Is there a way for
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  Speaker 5: us to back check this? I mean, if you want,
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  Speaker 5: you can call him. In my words, Dad, I know
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  Speaker 5: he's gonna call. But you know what, I believe you, Zeke,
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  Speaker 5: I believe you.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I'm just letting you know. I dunked and he said,
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  Speaker 4: we can't play. We can't play anymore. We didn't have
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  Speaker 4: phones back then.
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  Speaker 3: Dang.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm old, okay, eighties baby lay baby Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I I want to get into friends, trust and
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  Speaker 2: isolation a little bit. Did being born to the game
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  Speaker 2: affect your social life? I know we we kind of
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  Speaker 2: tapped into it, but I want the viewers to kind
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  Speaker 2: of get to know, like how that dynamic was with
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  Speaker 2: you and friends. Was it hard to find friendships? Was
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  Speaker 2: it hard for you to trust people? Because I know
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  Speaker 2: for me growing up into it, I had some challenges
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  Speaker 2: with that as well. And then moving it's sixth grade
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  Speaker 2: moving and then great is hard. That is hard anything really,
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  Speaker 2: So as.
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  Speaker 4: I go back, we moved sixth grade, going into seventh grade,
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  Speaker 4: just moving to Indiana, Froyd, Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: And new kid here. And one of.
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  Speaker 4: The first experiences that I experienced with my new classmates
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  Speaker 4: is nine to eleven Wow, and oh my god, So
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  Speaker 4: here I am in a foreign place, foreign people, you know,
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  Speaker 4: trying to figure it out. And one of the most
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  Speaker 4: defining moments in my life happens.
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  Speaker 2: Were you in class?
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  Speaker 3: No, we were late to school.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, we were late.
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  Speaker 4: To school listening to the russpar Morning Show, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: Indiana was on Central time, and so it was like
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  Speaker 4: eight eight whatever, So we're pulling up late, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately we heard the announcement that, you know, a plane
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  Speaker 4: and hit the tower.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually went.
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  Speaker 4: Inside and told my principal, and my principal told me.
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  Speaker 3: I was lying no.
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  Speaker 4: So then like I'm like, no, go on the computer,
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  Speaker 4: so like compewter load up, and sure enough the second
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  Speaker 4: plane had come in and.
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  Speaker 3: It really.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of resonated and just was grounding because it was
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  Speaker 4: you know, I went to a private school, and there
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  Speaker 4: were few kids whose parents had worked at or near
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  Speaker 4: or around the trade center, and there were those kids
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  Speaker 4: there who were freaking out, nervous, not sure what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't terrified that something was about to happen in
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  Speaker 4: Indiana as much as.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have my people, So you felt isolated.
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  Speaker 4: I felt well, I didn't know if I felt isolated.
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  Speaker 4: I just you know, you you want to check on
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  Speaker 4: your quote loved ones, and you're thinking about your support
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  Speaker 4: system back home in Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I did make great friends in Indiana, and I love
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  Speaker 4: them to this day and still probably are some of
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  Speaker 4: my closest relationships. So that's ages thirty team to sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: And then we moved again to New York and that
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  Speaker 4: was heartbreaking because I had definitely, truly made some of
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  Speaker 4: the best relationships that I have in my life. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I went to the Backstreet Boy concert, so he.
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  Speaker 3: Was seventh grade shouting Greg Odin. But like, had I not.
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  Speaker 4: Moved met these people, played basketball, got engaged, like made
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  Speaker 4: an effort, my experience could have been a lot different.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like because of who your dad is,
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  Speaker 2: people wanted to be friends with you or did that
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  Speaker 2: affect the dynamic with people?
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  Speaker 4: Because I always affected the dynamic with people. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I have a bullshit monitor from H two.
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  Speaker 2: Okay ale to it was more to the game, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean you are to sniff it out now I
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  Speaker 2: love that. Yeah, No, for sure. And you moved from
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  Speaker 2: what after sixteen? So that's what high school? Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then you get to New York and you said that
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  Speaker 2: was heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 4: New York was heartbreaking because I lost so many close friends.
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  Speaker 3: Now I made close friends in.
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  Speaker 4: New York, but it more so was after the fact,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of my close friends with New York.
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  Speaker 4: In New York were older than me. When I moved
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  Speaker 4: to New York, I started working for Hot ninety seven. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: and I started, you know, DJ Zeke.
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  Speaker 2: Started, We're going to get into it.
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  Speaker 4: So I was I was definitely adulting earlier than expected.
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  Speaker 4: In New York or Indiana, I could be a kid. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I felt that I took on my Zeke persona in
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  Speaker 4: New York, Okay, to kind of hide some of Joshua's
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  Speaker 4: pain from moving twice. You know, you you left your
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  Speaker 4: tight New York, or you left your tight Detroit, and
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  Speaker 4: then you left your tightness in Indiana. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: got great friends, and actually those great friends who I
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  Speaker 4: have from Michigan and Indiana, some of them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: work in the NBA now.
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  Speaker 2: So it's all you guys.
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  Speaker 5: So at the time, I'm going back to the word duty.
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  Speaker 5: Did you realize in sixth grade then, because you said
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  Speaker 5: you could smell bullshit it too? Yeah, did you understand
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  Speaker 5: the duty then? When was the first time that you
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  Speaker 5: realized of the duty of being a part of this
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  Speaker 5: phenomenal family?
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  Speaker 4: I can remember, hell. I remember I was like probably
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  Speaker 4: under the age of five, and we're at home in
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  Speaker 4: our family room, you know, two couches. Is you got
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  Speaker 4: the big TV. But the TV back then y'all had
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  Speaker 4: like the big.
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  Speaker 3: Literally.
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  Speaker 4: But so I'm there and my dad's being interviewed on
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  Speaker 4: you know, the local news, and I'm in his arms
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  Speaker 4: on the press conference, and my mom says to me,
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  Speaker 4: you got it chill like during this time, like like
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  Speaker 4: look at.
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  Speaker 3: You like she she pointed it out to.
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  Speaker 4: Me, and and I've that meant that has always kind
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  Speaker 4: of stuck with me that hey, yeah, that that moment
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  Speaker 4: was captured on camera and your dad was performing and
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  Speaker 4: you messed up the performance. Okay, So from then on
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  Speaker 4: it was like, Okay, yeah, you may like the limelight
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  Speaker 4: and you may want to you know, get some attention
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  Speaker 4: or get whatever, but.
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  Speaker 3: There's a way to do this that does not affect
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  Speaker 3: the brand.
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  Speaker 2: Got was that your first time you realized your dad
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  Speaker 2: is Isaiah Thomas?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: When was that moment for you? Because I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 2: you'all mine in a second.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if the aha moment really came into
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  Speaker 4: New York.
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  Speaker 3: Like I knew my dad was the man, Don't get
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  Speaker 3: me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I knew he was walking around and you know, people.
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  Speaker 3: When we got to New York. Huh, and he was
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  Speaker 3: on the cover of the newspaper. Okay, every single day,
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  Speaker 3: New York, that kind of place.
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  Speaker 2: Though you're like, wait a minute, he kind of liked, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: how wild is that?
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  Speaker 5: At that young he's talking about understanding the brand and
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  Speaker 5: understanding that behaviors and brands.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild. No, that's wild. That's wild. I before we break,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you guys, when I realized, y'all, I
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  Speaker 2: thought my dad was a referee.
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  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.
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  Speaker 2: So I remember my mom was like, because we didn't
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  Speaker 2: travel with dad. We didn't travel with him until we
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  Speaker 2: were older. But Mom was like, I think dad was
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  Speaker 2: coaching in Cleveland at the time, because we weren't born
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  Speaker 2: until dad retired, and she never saw him play. I
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  Speaker 2: never seen him play, but they were born yet, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but mom, we were living in Houston at the time,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and Mom was like, all right, we're going to go
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: see your dad in Cleveland.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Y'all.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I thought he was a referee. So we get there
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking for him, and I'm like, I'm looking
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: for the black and white referee. I thought that's what
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a coach was. I was looking and I'm like, Mom,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't see him, and I'm looking at the black
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and white man just like running up.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: She was like, he's right there. And I was like, oh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that's what you do. I thought, look, my bad. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: thought you was a ref was gonna be the person
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: running up and down the court. I had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: My mom kind of she kept that private, she kept
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that separate. She let us be kids, which I love.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: So that's hilarious. All right, let's break for halftime. We
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: have reached the halftime segment of the show. We're gonna
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: play a couple of games with you, all right. The
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: first one is the thirty second shot clock. So I'm
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: gonna ask you this or that questions. Wait, let's yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I need you to get your timer out. I need
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: someone who can give me thirty seconds. That's what I need.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this or that questions and you
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  Speaker 2: got to answer rapid fire you right, hold on, let
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  Speaker 2: me get my clock. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
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  Speaker 2: give me my thirty second countdown timer. All right, thirty five,
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  Speaker 2: you're ready, hold on? Hold on the anticipation right.
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  Speaker 3: None of these questions have been screened. Oh no, no, I.
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  Speaker 2: Promise you I'll not to set up. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: got shoo. These are these are silly? We google some
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And five four three two go ice water or room timp,
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  Speaker 2: Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, Whole Foods live music or
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  Speaker 2: DJ DJ pull or casino puller casinol. What happens in
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Vegas stays in Vegas or leaves the bague efteen seconds,
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  Speaker 2: stays cash aprisel. So is honesty always the best policy? Yes?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Or no? Yes?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Thirst? Would you rather be thirsty in the desert or freezing? Ozard?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Thirsty in the desert, freezing in the blizzard?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Freezing?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah it was good casino?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, shoes casino. I'm at the pool all
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: day something. And then I was thinking of these questions
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: in my sleep. I kid you not. I was like
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: yoga or the gym, like in my sleep. The one
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: that got me was thirsty in the desert or freezing.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm blind. So you're like you like I might freeze.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to free miss snow I missed
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the snow, all right.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So now we got to play family feud. I love this, okay,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, we don't have to do it
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a little, you know. So I can't leave the room,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: you know at the very end where they do the
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  Speaker 2: fast money. That's what we're going to be doing. But
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I can't. I'm not supposed to listen to your answers
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and put on to I'm gonna go by the honest
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: code here and put on music like that and not
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: let No, we're gonna listen to Cardi b we outside
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: w Ria she right, my world, my my word.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: No, that's you, shouts.
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  Speaker 2: Meg, I love you you ever watch that's just know
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  Speaker 2: I love you. Let me your body. Let's switch. Please
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: shout out to Glow too. I love glows. Shut to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: my toxic trait is thinking like I can say, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: sound like glow specifically, that's my toxic trait. You could
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I could not.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Oh I do it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this. I'm gonna see if this really works.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: This is live you guys, this is this so it
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  Speaker 5: is playing. Let me okay, turn it up out Okay,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: she's ready, you have Okay, So there's we're only going
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: to do We're only doing five one, two, three four five, right, okay,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to give you the topic and then yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: wait is there a timer part to this?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Just go, let's just go. Are you ready?
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Are ready?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Name a popular car color black. Name the soda that
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: people like to drink. Name of fruit that people might
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: eat for breakfast.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Strawberries.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Name something that people.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Might only do once a week work out. Name something
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: that you might find a refrigerator, church. Okay, scratch that one.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Name some of you might find in a kitchen knives.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. Okay, okay, we're done. Yes, I hope
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: you did awful.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Let me get it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, wing, y'all, I'm competitive. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, holder, I want to keep on.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Let me listen. We have no control. We haven't look he.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Got all over all over? Are you all ready? Zeke? I?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I hope Zeke got zero points? I'm right, it's the bang? Sorry, alright, ready,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I'm ready. I got what do I get? Twenty seconds
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: or twenty five?
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Child?
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know this going in, Just just do it. Okay,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: let's go. Name a popular color car black, name another
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: one white? Okay, So do the people like to drink?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Dr pepper coke?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Coke cokee? No, I take cold. You said doctor pepper, Okay,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I said doctor peppery coker pepsi. Name of fruit people aper, prekfice, banana.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Name something people might only do once a week, laundry,
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: and something you might find in the kitchen a sink.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take it off. Let's see.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I'm telling it up. I'm telling it up on. This
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is fun. It's we're a little bit ghetto, but it's okay.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's okay. We're doing We're doing the ghetto.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Steve Harvey fabulous. We had the win.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta use a calculator because I can't do
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: mental math right now. All this I feel like I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: won seek. I'm sorry. Okay, you have to get give
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: me a drink. Has to pay for drinks, non drinking stuff. Okay,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, who I'm almost there, you guys,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: this is so much fun. I need a little music.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just playing.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I'm right, I'm going off the honor system because you did.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: You have to go off your first answer. You can't
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: change the answer.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just you definitely can't. I've seen people Maria Mariah
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: on Steve Harvey. Mariaeve Harvey, let Google change answer, Maria,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: we are not changing answers. Okay, and here, okay, okay, okay,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I have it to okay, so zeke the answers. Okay.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: So for the most popular color car, you chose black.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: That was twenty four points. For the popular soda you
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: chose coke, which was the number one, which was thirty
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: nine points. The fruit that you chose was strawberries. That
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: was the fifth like that was but it was eight points.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: And something people might do once a week you set workout,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: so that's exercise. That was twenty one points. And you
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: said name something that was in the kitchen. You said knives,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: and that was that was zero.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: That was zero. So that was ninety two points. Wow, okay, Mariah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: so you you don't even have to run through it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Just tell me what I did.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: So, Mariah, the popular color car you said white. That
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: was number first. That was thirty five points.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: You said dr pepper.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: You said doctor pepper.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I changed it eleven points eleven okay. The fruit you
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: said blueberries, I said banana. You said bananas. Oh eighteen points.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Oh well, yeah, you really did win.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: But thank you? All right, okay, and that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Is our time.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Hazy hazy, okay, okay. Question, what's one part about being
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: born to the game that you think would surprise people?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I think that people would be surprised to know that
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: just because you're born to the game does not mean
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: that you can necessarily hoop.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, shouts to Jeff t Jeff Tig gave me some
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: on his podcast. He said that, you know, Bronnie currently
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: is holding it down for the goats of all time.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: He said, you know that I'm not good. He used
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: different language. Marcus Jordan also not good. E j is
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: not a hooper. But I'm gonna throw this out there.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: David Stockton, number two all time in g League assists,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: it's pretty cool.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: That you know John's number one all the time.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: An MBA assists, I'm throwing out there, David Stockton, the
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: goat of Goaded Sons.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Shout out to David. I love the answer. Okay.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I think it's weird they expect that you don't have
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: to be as you don't.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Have to be you know what I think it is.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But I think it's worse. And I will say I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: think it's worse for the boys. I think being a
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: son of a legend, people really have that expectation of you,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: not so much of the daughters. I mean, they still
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: have it, but I just think it's worse for you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I wonder what Asia Wilson and BAM's kid.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, bless, look bless, that child's hard. Already, child's not
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: even here. We already got to pray for him because
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I know the ooh sure, okay, so let's go into
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the Yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: So there's always challenges in any journey that you're on.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: You go from sixth grade to tenth grade, you go
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: from Indiana to New York. Talk about some of the
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: challenges and the things that you had to face.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You've kind of.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Touched on a little bit with heartbreaking moves and things
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: like that, but just the challenges that stick out to you,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: and then also how you overcame the challenges.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Well, there's still the challenges and the privileges. I can
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: remember being called a different type of black person, and
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: what that meant was that I was more than welcome
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: at my white friend's house. But I remember one time
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: my cousin, you know, he my cousin, you got you
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: got priple, this your cousin or whatever. Uh, but my
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: cousin had braids. It was about six six, went to
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: the same private school.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I did you know, he's smart. I'm smart. But because
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: he had braids and was six six, he was.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Not welcome at my white friend's house. And hearing that,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: processing that, realizing that you're really only rocking with me
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: because of my last name or your family is you
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: know my friend at the moment, he was like, I
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: know this is wrong, but you.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Know, they knew.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: The kids knew this was wrong.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: But you can't really, you know, argue with the parent,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: but the kids knew it was wrong. And it's moments
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: like that that you still go through, even being a
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: privileged child. And when you are black in America, no
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: matter how much privilege you have, you are still reminded
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: that you are black in America.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to get into that deeply, but
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Dad's recent experience I think kind of reminded me of
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that as well. Do you feel like but do you
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: feel like it?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, just to your point, do you feel like
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: it's certain it was certain parts or do you like
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: certain parts of the country or do you feel like
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: it was just in general, okay, like.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: That that happened in New York. Yeah, I mean even
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: in Indiana. Yeah, I definitely experienced racism, but that happened
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: in good old New York, you know where you would think,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: you know, liberal free mindset whatever and all that exists. Yes, yes,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: but when I was growing up, there was still this
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: status thing. Now what I'm seeing in gen Z even
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: though y'all, y'all, wow, y'all definitely are open minded to races, genders, identities.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Which is cool to see because that didn't exist for me.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: So hopefully y'all can keep this going and don't forget
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: where y'all came from, because there have been many people
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: who I know, who I grew up with, who were
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: down with me, down with black people, down with gay people.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden they mag it all out.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: So just stay true to who you are.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: And just remember that, you know, because in times like this,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: black people need help, Latino people need help, Gay people
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: need help. It's like we all, we all trying to
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: with women in general, need help. We all we meet
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: each other waking up. So let's just keep moving forward
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: and stick together.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So how do you How did you move through
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: the challenges? Like what was what did you learn? And
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: what what inside you happened to help you through those times?
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Moving through the challenges for me was relying on my family.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I'm relying on history.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I am a.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Student of history. I like I like to read. I
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: like to just know stuff. I'm always the person who
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: is reading the news in the morning, reading the New
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: York Times, Financial Times. That that's me. I post about politics.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I know y'all going to go on my Instagram. You
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: post about politics too much. I'm sorry. That's what I like.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I like like my friends like to post food on
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: their stories.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I like to post information on mind on.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Learning how to navigate through all that, like how to
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: truly be the son of and then carve your own
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: your own path.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: When we moved to New.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: York and I was able to be Zeke and able
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: to step into being a DJ, able to step into
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: being a creative, able to use my activism voice.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: You know, my family's full of activists.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I got sexually assaulted and was able to
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: use my platform for change, for positive change, and I.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Want to keep doing that. I'm not.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Afraid to as my man JV said, stand on business serious?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Is it clocking for.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: That?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: And not perfectly segues into our next segment for the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: now and next. So your experience helped create this version
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: of today?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: So where are you now? You talk about being an activist,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: We know that you are in human rights and mental
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: health awareness. So did that experience in New York help
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I guess spark this passion of yours to go into
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: activism or you know, your music kind of talk us
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: through that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: My experience in New York allowed me to see that
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I have a voice that can impact. You know, I
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: told you all my dad was on the newspaper almost
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: every other day, and what that showed me was, Okay,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, people are paying attention to him, Now
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: they're paying attention to you. I remember getting followed by
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: the New York Post to school, getting followed by the media,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: getting asked question this, and getting my phone number and stuff,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: and then finally saying something and then seeing it in print,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: being like, oh shit, yeah, I'm in the New York Post.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: I have a voice, even though my parents are like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: why'd you do that? Yeah, but at that moment realizing okay,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I have impact Now if I pick my moments and act.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Right, lead, right, respect my duty.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Does that word again, Now I can truly have an impact.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Now I can sit on the boards of you know, Normal,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: you know, I represent weed.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Y'all, sorry, get into it, you know, tell, tell, tell
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: the viewers what you're doing all of the you know,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: all the things that you're doing with your.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sit on the board of Normal.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy three and doing cannabis legislation fighting. It's one
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: of the one of the things that truly I believe
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: can set us free as a Black people, as just
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: the community in general, is connecting back with the plant.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Also in Champagne, Sheriline Champagne, it's been all surfed away.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: That's why we were all looking like our glasses that
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: we drank them already, we drank them. And also one
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: World products.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: We're doing great things in the bio hemp space with
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Stilantis and some Moto automakers. Really just trying to turn sustainability.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: And you know, everything I do is trying to move
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: the world forward. And if I can leave that imprint
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: on the world and that imprint on individuals, I love
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I love mentoring people.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: If y'all want to hit me up. I charged five
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: dollars an idea. But you know y'all can hit me up.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, now, I'll give you a hobby. I can
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: do it. So where do you see yourself years? And
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: then we'll transition into the last segment.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I'm fortunate enough right now to be able to work
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: around the NBA. So in five years, hopefully I'm still
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: working around the NBA doing the thing that I.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Love, which is basketball.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: And if not, I tell you what, in five years,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: I'm still gonna bring in be bringing my folding share.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I'm still gonna be sitting in these rooms telling people
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: to vote. I'm still gonna be sitting in these rooms
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: talking about equal rights. I'm still gonna.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Be sitting in these rooms talking about l G V
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: T Q I A plus right, okay. And I'm still
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: gonna be getting in magas Okay.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: But he said, but I like what he said. He said,
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: he's gonna be in the room. He's gonna be in
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: the room, going to be in the room.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And if you have to bring.
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  Speaker 5: Your voting share, did Mars and Mars him and Mars
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  Speaker 5: him and March and they're going show up. And that's
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  Speaker 5: a lot more than people do.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So I love that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, man, I had something I want to say because
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  Speaker 5: looking at him, he smiles just like his dad.
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  Speaker 2: Look at him.
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  Speaker 3: Look.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what that perfectly segues into.
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  Speaker 5: So you said that your dad, you were like at
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  Speaker 5: your dad's hip, and you have you just described this
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  Speaker 5: beautiful love story.
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  Speaker 3: Always that is hip. I mean I knew trades before
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  Speaker 3: they were going. I knew trades before woj okay. I
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  Speaker 3: love it.
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  Speaker 2: So you're attached to his hip. You know, you look
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  Speaker 2: up to him. He's your guy. So if there's anything
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  Speaker 2: you could say to him, what would it be?
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for allowing me to grow. Thank you for allowing.
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  Speaker 3: Me to make mistakes.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Thank you for catching me when I made those mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for brushing me off and believing in me
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  Speaker 4: and enough to let me go out and make those
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  Speaker 4: mistakes again. I really thank you for rocking with me,
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  Speaker 4: believing in me. And this is the greatest time of
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: my life and I'm glad that I get to share
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  Speaker 4: it with you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, make me cry. You look so happy.
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  Speaker 5: Saying you do the joy when you talk about your
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: dad like it literally you just you light up like him.
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  Speaker 2: And then you light up.
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  Speaker 5: So I know that through the times you've had so
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: many just times with him and talking with him. What's
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: some of the best advice he's ever given you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Should we be worried?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Should we pause and talk about this thing?
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  Speaker 4: There's three things that my dad taught me, big advice
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  Speaker 4: that I will stick by. Number one, the one you
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  Speaker 4: love the most has the ability to hurt you the most.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Number two, the same effort you put into it is.
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  Speaker 3: What you're going to get out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: And number three, just smile.
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  Speaker 2: Just wait, you just smile, just smiling. Just Brian's up
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  Speaker 2: your day, even if you're in a bad mood. Just
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  Speaker 2: that's that's great. Shout out to Isaiah so Zeke. Your
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: dad made his mark on the game basketball. How do
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you plan on legendizing your world?
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: It is a duty for me to leave a mark
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  Speaker 4: on the world. It is a duty for me to
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  Speaker 4: use my voice to speak out for equal rights and
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  Speaker 4: equal justice under the law.
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  Speaker 3: How I plan on leaving my mark on the world?
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  Speaker 3: And do I feel a duty? Is it?
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  Speaker 4: Is there some luck involved? There's definitely luck involved in life.
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  Speaker 4: You have to follow it and you have to stay
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  Speaker 4: true to it, and I'm staying true to my duty
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  Speaker 4: of fighting for equal rights and hopefully that brings me
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  Speaker 4: a lot of luck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Wilson, Well, thank you for joining us today. On
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  Speaker 2: Born to the Game, I'm your host Mariah and I'm
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  Speaker 2: Tamara Peyton and we'll see you next time on Born
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