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Episode 74-MS State Football Coaching Search · Johnny's World

• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to the new episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: This is your host, DW, here with my colleague Johnny.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: How are we doing today, Johnny?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or tonight?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, doing doing doing well.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: Doing well.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: A lot a lot to cover tonight on uh the world of Mississippi State football, that's for sure.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it's more to talk about than it than uh the past few weeks than than it has been.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not much plant playing on the field, but off the field we got a lot of news coming on.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's right.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let me uh let me get a little housekeeping out of the way here because we did.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's interesting.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we got uh Zach Garnett is is not there anymore, and you've been texting me.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: You said a bunch of people have been downloading the Dan Mullen episode.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: So lots of potential new listeners popping on here.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: They may or may not be listening to this one, but they definitely listen to Dan Mullen.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: So just to let y'all know who we are, we're we're uh we're we have our website, johnnypacker.net, where we sell coffee to benefit the Sistent Fibrosis Foundation.
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• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: And we also have a pick'em that we do on Yahoo every week.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's too late for y'all to join that, but the monthly winner gets a free bag of coffee.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: So we're we had our winner last month, Maroon Friday.
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  SPEAKER_02: He should have his coffee if he doesn't have it now, he should have it any day now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um you can be a part of that too.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just stay tuned and we'll probably do the same thing next year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you got a month to go on uh on the pick'ems for to the win end of November.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whoever leads, looks like you're on top right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might win another free bag of coffee.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're right, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm in I'm in solo first right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we had Maroon Friday Friday is still in second, but we had a uh Bob Katz is in there, and Juan Valdez is is in there in fourth place.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, B D's dirty dogs had a bad week.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's down to fifth.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh Johnny, you dropped out of the top 10.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Johnny's knots, man.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Johnny's knots.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you and Don King are down there 11th and 12th together.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: We're down, we're down.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not my year in it, but uh yeah, so it's it's it's cool that we do this, like we say, uh, a lot of fun.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: It keeps us, especially in a season like we've had this year where the games are terrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: It keeps us uh interested in uh checking other game scores and seeing if you can win and knowing that you can win and get a get a uh get a bag of the Johnny Pack of Coffee.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of that, one of my neighbor uh listened to uh our podcast last week and she uh messaged my mom and told me that she listened to our interview with Coach Cheryl and that um wanted to know how to uh to get get some coffee.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she might be uh ordering some coffee for some people pretty soon.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and what what what would you tell the listeners, BW, the most popular coffee is?
• 3:29
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• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: We've got regular coffee if you just like it black, and then we've also got flavored coffee.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: But my personal preference, I like to drink it black, I like Colombian, and there's another one on there called the Valley Blue.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are my two favorites.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um people prefer a little bit stronger taste, like some of the African blends.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I like the the Central American and some of the island blends myself.
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• 4:21
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• 4:32
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, as I say all the time, there's only uh there's a 10% of that population CF cannot benefit from this drug and they don't have anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've been on that boat before where I didn't have anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So our goal on this uh podcast, if you're new, is to uh spread awareness, let people know about what CF is, and and I kind of show it on my everyday life if I just keep living.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's my motto, and and uh and that's what we do this for, and and uh spread awareness, but most of all to try to raise funds.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh me and BW uh got uh got recognized last year and uh for our fundraising efforts in the first year of doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh that was cool getting to see that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh we really would appreciate it because it means a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might not think, oh man, I'm just getting a bag of coffee, it's not doing anything, but it actually does because money drives these uh uh diseases like CF in order to get protective treatment out for everyone and eventually make CF stand for cure found.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what they want, is uh they have to come up with new drugs for everything and gene therapy.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of technology involved in it, and it all goes back to to money, just like everything in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just buying a bag of coffee is making a difference in that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Johnnypacker.net, we really appreciate it.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Johnny, it's it's been a big week.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh at Miss and it's kind of interesting.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: I I didn't really think it was gonna happen, but man, it it happened.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: They they let our net go.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and I was talking to my father-in-law, he's an AM fan.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: He was there at the game, and I said, You were at the last game for two coaches to coach in one game.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: I said, That's gotta be kind of weird.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: And he was saying that uh it actually had the last time it happened was four years ago uh at the end of the egg bowl.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I didn't think about that either.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: But uh on that one, I I did hear someone talk about that yesterday.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: That was, but but uh Moorhead got to coach that bowl game, and then he got fired after that bowl game because Willie Gay hit hit Schrader in the face.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, this had to be a first and both both teams getting fired.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: But hey, look, we have to uh I know we we both like Zach Barnett and thankful for all he did for Mississippi State in the in our deepest time of need with our coach passing.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: But um obviously everyone was ready for a change after this year.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think the first person we got to thank is Texas AM.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if Texas AM did not have uh uh fired Jimbo Fisher, there's no doubt in my mind we would not have fired Arnett.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think we we've held on to him to the end of the season because uh we I mean how how big of an idiot would we have looked like if they come out and they fire Jimbo Fisher owned 76 million dollars, beat us by almost 50 points, and then we keep our coach.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we look like idiots.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it kind of I don't know personally, I think they were gonna wait until after the season, but I think when that happened and they saw Jimbo get fired, I think they were like, look, we have to do it right now.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: And and uh I mean, it's like pulling a band-aid off, man.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: You're you're gonna eventually have to do it, so might as well go ahead and do it.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like AM, yeah, uh getting rid of Jimbo caused us to to go ahead and pull the trigger on it.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you never know, like uh Greg Knox.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's already been in this role once for us when Mullen left.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: So uh the team could do two things.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: They could come out firing and being excited, saying uh we'll show you.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but I don't know why they would do that, but I mean they might, you never know, and come out with enthusiasm and and uh have that mentality, but then they could fold and there's no telling what's gonna happen these next two games, but uh but I'm just glad we're making uh I hate to see Arnett.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: I really wanted him to succeed.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but he was just uh obviously we talk about this every week.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: He was just over his head, too young of a um inexperienced, and you could tell on the sidelines where he was just looked like a deer in the headlights, and and uh just he just just going away from the air raid and all that, just kind of did not do do well.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then Will getting hurt.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of a lot of stuff happened, just terrible, terrible things because we had so much coming back, you know.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: Mike Leach in his third and fourth year places where this was the year we're gonna take off.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: He won nine games last year, but one of the best seasons in school history.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: He had all the weapons and everything in set, and schedule was easy.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're gonna win nine or ten games with Mike Leach this year, and and uh so it was all there.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: And and uh, but Arnett, it just uh it just one thing went led to another, and just uh hate to see it end like that, but on the good note, hopefully we can get somebody in here and and turn this thing around and get it right in the right direction.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: So, with that being said, let's talk some coaching search.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I have some guys in mind that I'd like to see.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: I want to hear what you have to say.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: Man, you're talking to the wrong person.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not I'm not too good with the remember mill, but I tell you, you know, I I the past couple years with the NIL and and everything, the transfer portal.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: I've always hated this time of year because this is the time of year all the people leave, and you know, you see all this stuff, you say, I leave, you know, so-and-so's leaving, and what's gonna happen next year?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I don't I don't feel that way this year because well, you know, we're gonna get a new coach and you're gonna expect to see some people leave, which is probably gonna be okay.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: And with the transfer portal, whoever we end up getting, hopefully we can find and replace somebody else, you know, in the portal.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe this year it'll actually benefit us a little bit to just kind of have a fresh start.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it could end up being terrible, but yeah, I'm not gonna be all up when people leave like I normally would be.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our recruiting class as of current is uh uh dead last, even behind Vanderbilt.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not good.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: So uh so that was another sign, you know.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Not only are we sucking it up on the field, sucking up in recruiting, but who wants to come play for losers?
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't blame them.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: So uh so the whole mentality has to change from the from the from the top to the bottom.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: So uh we definitely need need new leadership in there, and and uh it's all gonna come out to to see who we get to be before players, I guess, can decide, you know, like hey, you know, the guy that Oxford high, I mean Oxford, uh Starville High School um wide receiver, uh, who was like I think a four-star, you know, he decommitted last week.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's been a state fan his whole life.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: And and uh he was he said he was leaving, I mean changing his commitment, but man, he might come back depending on the coach.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: And right, right, all go on to see who we get.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh with that being said, I'll throw out some names and and and we'll talk about that.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, it's probably not gonna happen.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's not gonna happen.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know for a fact, but I would be very surprised if it happened.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, this is probably unpopular take.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: But man, I I would love to see Dan Mullen back.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've had him on the podcast where you just talked about earlier.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Coach Cheryl's podcast we had last week that was uh a lot of people downloaded that, and and uh and then uh Coach Mullen.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: I've noticed I sent you that the other day.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: How many people have been listening the past couple days?
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I guess thinking he might have told something to us about it, which he did say he loved Starbucks.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: Megan did too.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I I heard something today, I watched something today where he said never say never, but seems like he's pretty happy with where he is.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, can't blame the guy.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's working at uh ESPN, make a lot of money.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's getting paid from Florida and he's getting to spend time with his family.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: So um I'd be really shocked if he came back, but uh he would be my number one because just because of how much success we had with him.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, you know what you're getting with Mullen, he was gonna beat the teams he's supposed to beat, and he was gonna lose to the teams he's supposed to lose to, easy as that, you know.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: And uh you can ask for you.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: You can ask for a bowl game every year and and eight and seven, eight wins every year, and then maybe a nine or ten win season.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's what he gave you.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, uh a lot of people are still upset with the way he left town, and and it seemed like he always had his foot out the door, what ready to get out.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: But um, you can't say what he what he did for Mississippi State for all those years.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he he coach, I'll I'll always say put us on the map, getting us to Atlanta and SEC championship, making us believe that we're winners and we can win at state.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what Coach Sherrill did.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then Dan Mullen came in there and did it again and and had had I mean went to number one with Dak and so many good things, but then again, it could be nostalgic purposes from um trying to live in the past and all that.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: We might need to move on.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, I would be shocked if he if he came back, but uh like I said, never say never, but uh he would be who I'd want.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: But if we can't get him, I'd like to get Tom Herman.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh Tom Herman is at uh I believe Florida, Atlantic right now, and he's a proven head coach.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: He's been he was uh head coach at Texas, uh University of Texas for a few years.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: He got fired from there, but uh I mean they have unrealistic expectations at Texas, they think they're Alabama, uh, and they're not.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but Tom Hermann, we we need a uh a proven proven head coach, a power five head coach is what I would say.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've been seeing that these G5 coaches, we might have to get them.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: But man, I say go in and get a big big time coach.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: You got you know, it's gonna cost, you can't go cheap on this route.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: We've gone cheap with Joe Moorhead, we went cheap with Arnett, uh, obviously because we had to at that time.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: But man, you're gonna have to pay 10 million or 11 million to get a big time name.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Look at what uh Lane Kiffin's getting paid, and and uh it's what it's gonna cost to get someone now.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Can you get someone from a power five school sitting head coach right now to come?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's the question.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be tough to do.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we did that with Mike Leach uh at Washington State.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: We took him for Washington State.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: They had a uh I think they were the least budgeted team in the in the Pac-12.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: But uh another name who I would love to get is I don't see it happening, but I I've always been a fan of uh Mike Gundy, you know, the guy that says, Hey, I'm a man, I'm 40.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: That guy, yeah.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oklahoma State.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: I like Mike Gundy a lot, but uh he's like uh he played quarterback at Oklahoma in the Oklahoma State in the 80s, and he's been at Oklahoma State forever.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that'd be like getting somebody like Rocky Felker at Mississippi State and sending him to Oklahoma State.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't see him leaving his alma mater, but uh I really like him a lot, but I it's just gonna be hard to get a power five sitting head coach as much as we want.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe we need to go the uh uh coordinator route um because our uh our inexperienced route by by uh saying that we've seen that with uh with our net being inexperienced, and we've seen the coordinator route with with Moorhead.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, Mullen was a coordinator, but it's kind of you never know what you're gonna get.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, but uh I feel personally at the state that Mississippi State football is in right now, they need someone who has had success and has been a coach, head coach at a power five.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and Tom Herman fits the bill for me.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: I've been seeing a lot of uh news about Jamie.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what's the guy's name?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Jamie Chadwell, or I believe.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's Liberty's head coach.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh he might be the up and up and coming stud.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's kind of like Mullen was.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: He right he was kind of not known.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: He was up under Urban Meyer, so it could it could be something like that.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, have some some coach that is up and coming.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, he's taken over from Hugh Freeze at Liberty and has done really well.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and he was at Coastal Carolina before that.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: He did sit spend one season at Delta State, I noticed.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: So um I don't know.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: He he's been getting a lot of uh a lot of takes.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: People have been talking about him a lot, and the guy from uh um Tulane, uh Willie Fritz, but I believe he might be a little bit too old.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um we need a younger guy, but not too young of a guy.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: I like the guy at Kansas, Lance Leopold.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, again, that's hard.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be hard to get get somebody a power five sitting head coach, but he's obviously turned Kansas around the program around, and he would be a good get.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: Kansas State guy would be a good kit, also.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there are a lot of names out there that a lot of G5 coaches uh people are on the list.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: I've been seeing, but uh, if I had to take a pick in a perfect world, and Gus Melza on he's out there too.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I did hear our good friend and host Steve Robertson say on his podcast that he expects uh, I know we're not gonna lie to this, Wally, but he expects Sam Pittman probably to get the axe at Arkansas.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and Arkansas is gonna possibly go after Melzon and end up there.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: So um I would like to see Gus Melza on a starble.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think he'd be good.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's proven yeah, he's he could beat Alabama, he's done it, he's played in the national championship game against Jameis West in Florida, almost won it with Auburn.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: He's been a good coach, a good head coach.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: He has experience, and I would love to see Gus Malzon in Starbucks.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: But I imagine him him versus Lane in the egg bowl.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: That'd be some fireworks.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: Him versus Lane in the egg pole.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: But if if Arkansas, for some reason, I don't know if he has ties to Arkansas or either he tried to get the job or they try to get him one other time.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember, but if he chooses Arkansas over over state, uh then the dream scenario for me would be if if uh if melzon goes to Arkansas, we can't get him to get Tom Herman.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: I keep going back to Tom Herman.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's like he's the guy that I kind of want.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's been talking about him, but but then again, it could be one of those deals where you know the last coaching search, uh we we, I guess with the Moorhead coaching search, everyone thought it was going to be uh Billy Napier and and uh and thank God it wasn't.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: But everyone at Moorhead, no one even knew his name until like the day before they hired him.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: So there could be a guy that we're not even talking about, or not on any of these lists or any of the boards, and they haven't targeted, and he might be our coach, and we don't know who he is.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: So you're right.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's no telling, but um, I would do I do have to say this in the 2020 coaching search.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh man, I was dead set on wanting to get Mike Leach.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I remember this like it was yesterday, and people were telling me, Man, we don't need him, the air ray's not gonna work in the SEC.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: We don't want him, he's too old, blah blah blah, all this sort of stuff.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Nope, uh, that's who I want to get.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: I met him at a book signing in 2011 in Jackson at Lemurier, and man, I I kid you not, I posted that picture on Facebook and said, This is who Mississippi State needs to hire as their head football coach, Mike Leach.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: And man, people were coming after me, right left, no blah, same thing.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's too old, airway's not gonna work.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, This is who he needs to hire.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: And lo and behold, BW the next day, breaking news.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Mississippi State hires Mike Leach.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I like personally a lot to think uh I was playing a little part in that.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe maybe John Cohen or somebody saw my post.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, let's get we need to get leach.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: So so uh always had that connection, feel like I was part of it, even though I wasn't, but uh that was who I wanted all along, and um just uh unfortunate, man, because I could see him riding out his career in Starville and having so much success with air aid and everything.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Just terrible.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, so yeah, uh Tom Herman is who that guy is for me now.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, like I said, I'd love to have Mike Gundy.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: He would be probably my number one, or uh and then Dan Mullen, but I don't see either of those two happening.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, Tom Herman would be number one for me right now.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what about you, Kenny?
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Who's your top five, or who do you who would you want?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: My gut feeling is gonna be the Liberty guy because I feel like Liberty's got some problems.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you've seen there's some scandals going on over there uh with some the way that university's been run.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: And he freeze, man.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Hugh Freeze, it just it just follows him.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, I don't I don't I certainly don't want to be involved in anything like that, but there may be a time where he sees something and says, you know, this may be a good time to leave, and Mississippi State looks all right, and could be could be it.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's really the the the strongest gut feeling that I have, but it's like you said, with these things that you just never really know.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: It could just be somebody we have no clue um who it is, and then all of a sudden next day they're there.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I was trying to think, so uh the new a AD Sellman that's his name, right?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: And um he hired Jans, didn't he?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um this is this his first tire for for Selman.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is his first ever.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: We're about to find out.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and Selman has the ties to Oklahoma.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we we talked about that last week.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Bob Stoops.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that would be freaking awesome if Bob Stoops came.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean he's like, I think he's 68 or something, so he's probably not gonna do that.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: But he probably does have the ties with Selman, and he's probably getting some advice.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Sellman's probably getting some advice on Bob Stoops as far as who who to get or who names he thinks.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that would be uh be good because uh man, big game Bob and Starble would be freaking awesome, but I just don't uh don't see that happening.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I do think Selman can use his use his connections to uh to get that.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: But heck man, I saw today Ted Lasso's even in the running.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: So um I don't know, man.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll get Ted Lasso to come to Starwell.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take it, man.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: That'd be awesome.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we got Roy Kent there too.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: Roy Kent.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: He's there.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: He's everywhere.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he is, man.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: He is.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And uh but uh yeah, I don't know.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna I hope they take their time on this thing and not rush it because it's one of those things you can't just make a rush higher unless you know for sure.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: You need to get no reason to rush it.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's no reason to rush it.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: They need to get a uh, I guess they've powered search committees and all that sort of stuff, the national search committees to to see.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I I don't know.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: You you don't want to have you won't you want to take your time on this thing because uh especially with the program in right now, how bad the season's been, and you're gonna lose guys, like we said earlier.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but if you hire someone who's who's got promise, then you can hold on to some guys and and all that sort of stuff.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: But it needs to be done relatively soon because of the recruiting class and and signing day in December, and then the one in February.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: So they need to probably, I would say they need to have a name by after the egg bowl because I would think after that Saturday um where all the seasons over with, and then preparing for bowl games, obviously coaches will leave during that time, unless you're playing for the playoffs, they'll leave a ball game to come.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: So that in a perfect scenario, I would think they should have a name by the by the egg bowl night and then release it the next uh maybe that Sunday or Monday.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I know they're gonna be working hard to find it, but I don't know what to say, man.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's just uh unfortunate scenario because I was expecting Coach Leaks to be here until he retires.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was perfect, perfect fit for him and everything.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: And but Arnett, he'll probably uh man, he's such a good defensive coordinator.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I can see him, I saw USC and LSU might have spots available in defensive coordinator.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I could see easily get picked up as a as a de coordinator somewhere.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Someone did I say, I wonder if Arnett will stay on or is our defensive coordinator.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, that you can't do that.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: You can't do that.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta break ties, man.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: It just wouldn't work out.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: And this new whoever we got now is probably gonna bring a whole new staff in and and uh and all that sort of stuff.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, we just uh like I said, like we just said, it could be somebody that we we have no idea, but man, I'd love to turn back the clock and get Dan Mullen back.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I know a lot of people don't like that, but man, we had some of the best days with Dan Mullen and Mississippi State.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, as you said, we when we interviewed him, um I'm I'm good friends with him, and and they are just great people.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: And you could tell that he's kind of laid back now, and he seems to enjoy the uh the life that he has now on ESPN.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think getting to go to his son's uh saw he's going to a son's basketball game this week, I saw, and uh his family time and all that stuff.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: And they go on trips and stuff, so a lot of less pressure compared to being a head football coach.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean the guy's already got money, he doesn't need that.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: So uh personally, if I was him, I wouldn't take it.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'd stay doing what I'm doing now and join, join counting my money and hanging out with my family and calling football games on on uh Thursday nights.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: So uh hang out with Jimbo.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can't hang out with Jimbo, but uh yeah, Jimbo, man,$76 million.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: I read where he's making$26 uh what was it,$26,000 a day.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: So he's making a thousand dollars an hour almost.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's insane, man.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: That is insane.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: How in the world?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh why and in the other profession, you're not you're not getting paid to leave, man.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's just un unheard of, man.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: Right, Johnny.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm saving people's eyeballs every day, and I ain't I ain't getting anywhere nigga that.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's just uh I don't know.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: But Arnett, he's gonna walk away with 4.5, so he's yeah, he'll be all right.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: He yeah, uh, he lives down the road from me, and uh on my way home the other night, I I rode by he lives in the neighborhood next to mine, rode through that neighborhood.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: I saw his truck and the driveway, so I was like, wow, this is the time he'd be at football practice.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: But he his wife, you know, just had a baby uh during SEC Media Day, so it was in July.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: So he probably hasn't been home to see the baby as much with a coaching football.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: So he's probably getting a lot of time now to do that, which is good for him and good for good for his family.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: So uh no ill-willed at all at all towards Zach Ronette.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: All these people that were hating on him and saying he's terrible and all that sort of stuff.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: Man, as we say, he just got thrown into the fire, an unfortunate situation.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: And he did the best, he did the best he could, and and uh man, we're just thankful he that he was there to in the university's darkest time to to say, hey, I'll do it.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: And uh very grateful for him.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: We'll always be thankful for him, but uh I think he knew it wasn't gonna be a long-term deal, also.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but yeah, they've got to make Selman.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Selman seems like he's sharp, dude.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he he he said in the press conference I thought was interesting.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Don't listen to anybody, don't don't listen to the rumor meals, all that stuff.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: I if it comes out of my mouth, it's the truth.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's like you can't buy into anything else.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, people doctrine up text like that one that went out yesterday about the Liberty guy didn't turn off his location and said start.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that was fake.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh bought into it.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he was, I was like, Man, that's crazy.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Left turned on his location, but yeah, there's gonna be all sorts of stuff like that, people trying to fool people, and and that's just the way the internet is nowadays.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, unless it comes from him, I'm not buying it.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: But uh he did say, you know, he's been around football his whole life, and you know, he has famous dad and uncle and all the connections to OU and all that sort of stuff.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: So um the guy knows his stuff uh as far as connection-wise, I believe.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: And and uh I do uh I do think we we won't get someone.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't think I'll get Shane Beamer, and and I'm glad about that because he, I mean, he's a nice guy and everything, and he has ties to state, but um he's not doing as good at South Carolina as thought.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: But his family is is friends with the sellman.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: So another thing, yeah, I don't think you need to hire someone who's friends with with with you.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think you need to start from scratch.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: It needs to be no no ties, in my opinion, no ties at all to Mississippi State.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: It needs to be just somebody like Dan Mullen, for instance.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: No ties.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: He came in here and and uh did his own thing and and and got successful.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: So uh that's the way I that's the way I would do it.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: But I would, as I said just a second ago, I would go after and I would spend as much money as you can.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: Don't go the cheap route.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: If you throw$10 million at a coach that's making four million or three or four million, they're gonna take it easily.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you need to look to see what power five.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's so much of a difference, man, between a power five coach and the G five coach.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's just night and day difference.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: You need a power five coach, in my opinion, because you're in the freaking SEC, man.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be Texas and Oklahoma are joining us.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: 16 teams in the country are in the SEC, and those are the 16 best jobs in the country, in my opinion.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: And you need to have experience, and power five is the only way to go.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and man, I would go out there and just freaking drop the money if you got to uh to get that that top coach.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and just can't go the cheap route.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I know people are saying, yeah, but we're gonna need a baseball coach too.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, look, can't worry about baseball right now, man.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Freaking worry about getting the football coach, and then we'll see how baseball turns out.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: But football is the I know we can compete more in baseball than football in the country, but man, football drives the university.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's where everybody spends their money on coming to football games.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's the biggest seller, and it's the hardest one to compete in, obviously.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: But you've got to have, if you don't have uh a good coach, I mean, what are we what are we doing here?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, power five or bust, in my opinion, for head coach.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh if I have my my say in it, Dan Mullin, Mike Gundy, those would be my two, but they're not coming.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: Tom Harman, get him, Tom Herman, get him, and if not, Liberty guy.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: But uh hey, like you said, it could be somebody we don't know.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: So just uh it's gotta be a successful head coach, no coordinator.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely no defensive coordinator.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, nope.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Johnny, let's let's wrap it up and and uh let's tell everybody what we think about the game this weekend.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I forgot there was a game this weekend, man.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I know.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yes, the Southern Mist Golden Eagles coming flying into start Vegas, man.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll I'll tell you real quick what I what I'm projecting, and then then you tell me yours.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: So normally Southern Mist coming into town, I would say we're just gonna freaking blow them out.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: They came in here and uh Dax in the 14 season, I think we shut them out.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: They came back in 19 um uh with Moorhead and all that, and and we beat them there heavily.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Played them in Hattiesburg in 15.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: I remember going to that one and we beat them there.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it looks like they've only played in Starville.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this will be the fourth time since 1990.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: It said they played with Brett Favre in '90, and then 14 with Dak and then 19 with Moorhead in this this year.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: So uh they don't come very much uh to Starbucks.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: They never play Ole Miss.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think Ole Miss is scared to play them, man.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: We just freaking play them, you know.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we don't even have a coach and we're playing them.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: So come on, Kiffin, Ole Miss, don't be scared, play them.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but you know, I oh speaking of well, I'm I'm going something crazy real quick.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'll come back to score.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: What if Mississippi State just freaking throws it out and steals Lane Kiffin from Ole Miss?
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: How crazy would that be?
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: No way, no way.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: That would be the most ultimate slap in the face if Kiffin's like, hey, I'm coming to stay.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: But uh no, that's not happening.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, but going back to score, uh uh if if Arnett was still the coach and what we've been seeing, man, I I I was gonna pick us to lose to Southern Miss, actually.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say there's no way we can beat Southern even Southern Miss with Arnett, but I feel like our players are gonna get some juice, man.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're gonna they're they're gonna want to show show the world that hey, we're Mississippi State, we're gonna fight, and I do think we're gonna pull out the win.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I think I think the line was 14.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's gonna be 14, man.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: I actually think it's gonna be a pretty close game.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I do think state uh pulls out the win.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say uh Mississippi State wins 24 to 21.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I thought we were gonna disagree for a minute there, but uh it's it's funny.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're really thinking the same thing.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say with our net, if he was still there, I I thought we'd lose it.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I just the way they've looked, I just it's horrible.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean I I didn't and everybody was saying, you know, we're gonna beat him, we're gonna beat him.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking I don't I don't know how we do the way we look, but you know, I think I think Knox gets some gets some hype back up.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think Rogers comes back.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think you know, you know, Will's brother plays uh plays for Southern Miss.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like that's gonna if he's healthy enough.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I know he had a serious injury.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: If he's healthy enough and is cleared, I I think this would be the game he wants to come out to play because when else when else you can get to play against your brother, it might be your only chance.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, uh that that should have some momentum.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then obviously he'd want to be out there for the egg ball if possible.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: So if yeah, if Will plays it's game on, I think he'll play the whole game.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because gosh, look what we've been dealing with with Mike Wright and Chris Parson, just not very good.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Parsons too young, right's not very good.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: Will gives our best chance.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: If he's healthy and good to go, he needs to play the whole game.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: So uh we'll see what happens with that.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, I if Will comes back, I think Knox says, Will you call the plays?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you know, dial it back to to Leach.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I think we I think we put up some some points.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe not you know, Mike Leach points, but I think we do.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna say 35-14.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: 35-14.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that yeah, if if if Will doesn't come back though, I uh we might struggle to put up points again, man.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: 21 to 7 if he doesn't come back.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I I think I'm gonna I'm gonna say 24-21.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: That was without Will.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: If Will's in the game, I think he's gonna dink and dunk his way to victory in honor of Mike Leach.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I think he, I mean, Will, this is what my problem with with Arnett all along was.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: I've said this before, is getting away from the air raid.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Will Rogers is an air raid quarterback.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: We've talked about this all year.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: He knows the offense.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Heck, he could call the offense and plays in his sleep, Will Rogers.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Why do we not let him do that?
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, I mean, I feel like if he can if he can do that and and decon dunk and do everything air raid like Mike Leach, I think uh we can put up some points.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh I think I think you're right.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think we'll be something like 35, 14 with with Will there.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: If he's back to his normal self, I know that injury is is uh rough one that he had.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: So uh it all depends on who's playing quarterback, it's pretty much what it boils down to.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, because our defense, I mean, our defense can hang.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: I feel I feel with uh uh um what's his name?
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Buki and and Jet Johnson, uh I think they can handle Southern Miss's offense.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh like I don't know.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: I I say that we let uh what Western Michigan or whoever we we play, third stream quarterback go off on us.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about the AM's third stream quarterback, put up 50 points, but but I feel like State's defense can hang with Southern Miss and it's just gonna boil down to our offense if uh who's playing quarterback and if we can get it going.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: But like you said, Greg Knox.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: We've had Greg Knox's interim before.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: If he can get the guys juiced up, uh, I think he'll come out with a win.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, if we get that win, that's win number five.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then we go in next week to the egg bowl.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody, as I said last week, is gonna pick state to lose in the blowout fashion.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and crazier things have been done at the egg bowl.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: So especially with Jackson Dart.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard he was out.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: He might be out for the egg bowl.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh if that's the case, it's a new ball game, in my opinion.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we'll cross that bridge next week and got to get this win against sudden miss first.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: So uh hope everybody comes to the game and supports them because they they they need need support.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's 11 a.m.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: game and we got the egg bowl in a few days also hard to make two trips back to Starble, but gosh, it would it would be nice to have a crowd there and not look have no one there for for uh for a game on TV.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: But uh but yeah, hopefully we can we can come out and come out victoriously and come back next week and do a recap and and uh do our Thanksgiving egg bowl and then go from there.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then be out on the lookout for our new coaches.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: All right, Johnny.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well we'll catch you next time.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: Talk to y'all next week.
• 36:49
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• 36:51
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• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: Bye bye.