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Rebuilding After Losing Everything · Real Money with Lisa Chastain

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Welcome to real money with Lisa, Chastain over the next hour.
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You will hear from leading industry experts, how to
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establish Financial confidence and freedom.
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Her guests will motivate and inspire you to make those
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financial decisions that you have been thinking about for
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weeks and maybe even years. Now here's your host.
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Lisa Chastain, happy Monday. It's Monday.
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Oh my gosh, I just had the like craziest Monday morning.
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Welcome everyone to real money. I'm Lisa Chastain with my guest
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today Gina trimmer, who is yes? So many things you're going to
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learn from Gina and here from Gina.
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She is the leader of the revitalized Womanhood is a
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podcast Community, right? Yes, Revitalize Womanhood is
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all-encompassing. It's the business.
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It's the podcast Instagram website.
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Whereas, inside of the Revitalize Womanhood movement,
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is The revitalized Sisterhood private Community?
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I love what you're up to. Thank you.
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I love you. I know you do.
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I love it. Get up every day and jump out of
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bed, right? Like with the birds singing and
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the right. It's always like that.
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Just kidding, probably not with my own.
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I think you're gonna say your day was crazy, my day.
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A was too and actually I even was intentional about saying to
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myself. No, you cannot go to the gym
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today that will make you just too rushed and I would rather
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come into this. Just, you know, and instead I
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got on a call while I was getting ready, I had mom life
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going in the baby, wanted to make a smoothie and then he
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wanted to make eggs. And then he wanted to, I mean, I
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was a short-order cook this morning and I jump that call.
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I told you about with my new members, and then I started
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getting ready and got on a call. This brand manager that I've
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been wanting to talk to so I'm like, I can do that while I'm
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getting ready and then all of a sudden I look at the time and
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I'm like, hey, I don't know what clown face.
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I've been putting on this whole talking to you, you know, you're
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just kind of like lala and then be, I'm like it's 10:15.
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So when I come running in here, it was so funny that Ashley's
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like, yeah, this is the link. You get on in 6 minutes and I'm
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like, okay, good night is here. Yeah, I had a similar morning.
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It was said, I have a 7:00. Meeting and I'm in my car and I
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live down at 7:03 and I was like, oh my gosh, what does
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happen in the morning? Anyway, however, you're joining
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us on the real money show. I'm so grateful, you're here and
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I think you can already tell that we're going to have a
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really Lively conversation with Gina, and before we do that
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Gina. So with the Revitalize Womanhood
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environment, group Community Sisterhood, I like my guests to
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give their formal introduction, rather than me reading off a bio
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or something. So will you introduce yourself
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to our audience? Lutely.
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I would love to first of all. Thank you for letting me be with
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you here and talk to your lovely listeners.
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I'm so excited about this chat. Like you said, we already feel
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like we're kind of, I'm the Saint George version of Lisa's
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Vegas, and we're just like, you're already good like that.
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So, I am. My name is Gina trimmer.
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I am first first and foremost, a wife to my very tall dark and
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handsome husband of almost 17 years where I'm taking every
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month I count. Every month.
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Okay I've worked for everything and my favorite role is to be
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Mama to my three boys. I'm a boy.
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Mom times 3. I have an 11 and 8 and a little
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Caboose, he's too. So he was very intentional as
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well. That was on purpose and I am a
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child in a family, LDS Utah, family, eight kids.
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So the absolute what you think of when you think of an LDS?
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Family, in Utah and let's see. I am the after so many years of
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trying to figure out where I belong Ben asked last year to be
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the founder and creator of the Revitalize Womanhood community
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and women's movement. And I am so so like I found my
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place. Right.
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You just finally clicks and you're just like I'm home.
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Like this is so me and your actual gifts and your passions
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and your purpose. Just get to come shooting out of
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your fingertips every day, right.
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I actually have a one of my members and it's funny because
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her episode came out last Tuesday and she had told me in
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our group, she was one of my very first members and she had
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told me in my group at one point that she did not care for me.
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When she first heard my podcast, she came to me from her.
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Her husband and son is, they are part of the order of, man, which
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is the Counterpoint my women's movement.
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And so they said, hey, you need to go.
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This is the women's. It's finally here, you know, go
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check it out. And she says, I listened to your
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first episode, and I did not care for you nice.
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And I'm like, well, why? And she says, no one could be
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that that perky. And I was like, that's me.
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We're where are you in the order of the eight children in your
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family? Earth.
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Does that just? Yes, I am.
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The independent I was never home.
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Even from the young age, we have a picture.
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We lived on a farm. When I was young and we have a
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picture of me standing next to the door.
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When I was three. Maybe I mean my little brother
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who's two years younger, could barely walk probably.
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So for maybe and I'm standing next to the door just as
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innocent as can be and I've created this like makeshift like
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ladder of not have been climbing up.
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Up whatever it was that I put together for him to reach the
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unlock on the screen door and I'm like the picture is just him
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like unlocking at me like I mom I mean I don't know like what is
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he up to crazy kids and that's from the get-go, I was just an
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Explorer, a Wanderer independent.
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Where was your farm? So my grandpa owns a farm.
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He owned, he's passed away now but my family owns a farm up in
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Garland Utah. So almost Idaho.
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Okay, Way North, mmm. Yep, yep.
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And to Kaysville, which is not the big city but is a big city
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in regards to Garland. It's suburb of Salt Lake, I
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guess is what you have call, and we moved there when I was about
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five. So until I was 5, I've spent my
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days wandering Farm Fields, chasing kittens, walking train
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tracks, picking asparagus out of ditches, Getting to Know
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Yourself. Absolutely.
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Yeah. Because I knew your name, one of
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you, come here, and no one knew my name.
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My sister's actually sold me for a bag of popsicles.
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When I was born, my older sisters.
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I have three older sisters. Okay, they sold me for a bag of
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popsicles, to a random stranger. Yeah, you know, luckily, he
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didn't take me, I don't know what that life would have been,
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like, I'm glad you made it out of that situation it out.
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Leave it to the older sisters. My gosh, the older sisters for
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me were way. They were my brothers.
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And I mean, it's like you say, when you don't have a father
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figure or you don't have an older brother, guess what?
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It works out that you do their work, it was fights all the
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time. I mean we would wrestle we would
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fight. It was like brothers and then my
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little brother's come along and they were so sweet.
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And so quiet and so just bless their little hearts.
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My poor Pair by the time they got through four girls really
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tired. They deserved those boys.
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Deserved those good sweet boys. Yeah, I love that.
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We could be here all day talking about that but I do think it's a
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good segue because I like to have our listeners be on the
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journey to really get to know you.
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There's so much that you offer the world today which we will
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get to toward the end of the show and your journey like we
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were talking about right before the show and like what I teach
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in my world is that your journey has everything to do with the
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decisions and choices that you've made.
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And then as we as we Shift into adulthood and become conscious
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choosers. Then you've made some really
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conscious choices to change the direction of your life.
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And I want to take the listener on the journey because I think
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that's so so cool. And I I'm curious, I'm nosy, I
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want to know, too. So I am a neighbor to Utah.
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So growing up. We only went to Utah or
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California for holidays. It was only one or the other.
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So I'm very familiar with Utah and I love Utah.
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Actually, we just got back from Zion, which I know you guys are
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doing. Cool things in St.
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George and we're looking to partner together and just be
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neighbors, the great neighbors but let's talk about being
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raised and your relationship with money.
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So we framework this show that you had some really big aha
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moments in your 20s that really shifted in Altered the course of
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your life with Rick. When did you meet Rick?
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How old were you? Oh, we got married in 2006, so
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maybe three. Yeah.
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So I met him. Yeah, I was about 22.
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I was married before to my high-school sweetheart.
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Who actually played baseball at CCS n back when it was CCS n.
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Yeah, and it was when they very first built that brand new
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baseball stadium anyway, so but it was just not a fault of Utah,
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but feeling like you needed to just do the next thing and do
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the next step in check. Next box and marry your high
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school sweetheart, right? So nothing wrong with him,
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nothing wrong with me. Just we were not ready to do
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that so we did get divorced after a year and then I met Rick
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a year later I believe. Cool.
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I have so many questions but let's start, let's even start
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like living on a farm and then also being a woman in the LDS
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Community, I was raised around a lot of LDS friends and there's a
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lot of social networking and also a lot of socializing about
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the role of the woman and the man growing up.
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How did that impact you as a young woman going into your
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teens about like what you what you saw your role in life to be
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always? A wife and mother always, that
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was always my role and and not that it was that was not a bad
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thing. I've always wanted to be a wife
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and mother that's my most favorite thing on the planet.
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But my example was also from a woman who was raised by a wife
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and mother on a like a farm family, right?
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So very important, they homesteaded that farm.
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So it was generationally the men did the farming, the wife,
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stayed home, and cooked and got them.
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Are hearty meals and sent them back out to the fields, right?
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And, and so my mom and it was always, humble means.
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And so, my mom learned from a young age, especially, because
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her mom got cancer. So, she was the oldest girl and
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they sold their clothes. They made their bread, they have
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their Gardens, right? It was very important to be very
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smart with your money and budget.
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And, you know, they just didn't have much.
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So, what they did have, they had to do the best they could with.
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Yeah, and Then how did the, how did that translate for you as a
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teenager and into your 20s. So what's hard about me?
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And it's hard for me to talk about because it was no fault of
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my parents at all. They cannot they cannot pick
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what little personality. I come to this Earth with,
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right? And for me, I was everything
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hell-bent on being exactly opposite of what my parents
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wanted me to be from the day. I was, like, I said, when I was
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little trying to break out of the house and be A wild and
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free. I was just no one was going to
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tell me what to do. And so being part of a religion
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that is 100% telling you what to do and how to live.
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And I always felt Uncomfortable in it.
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I guess they used to wrestle me into dresses.
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I was a tomboy. They would have to wrestle me
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into dresses, just to go to church.
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I mean, I would just I did not everything about it.
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I just did not like it other than the community and that
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aspect of knowing all your neighbors and being friends,
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with all the kids in the neighborhood been and support,
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like I could knock on anybody's door.
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Anytime I knew every neighbor's name, I could knock on any
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person's door and know that. That they would feed me.
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Close me, do anything. You know what I mean?
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Like, if I were, if I needed anything so that aspect of that,
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and that's not a religion per se.
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That's human beings Cameron a community, right?
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But in an organized religion for me, being told, what to do was
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really hard. So I I fought it.
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I fought it and my parents bless their sweethearts.
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Didn't know how else to deal with that, right?
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They just did the best they could.
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So when I talk about it, I hope they know me well enough, now to
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know that, I don't blame them for anything.
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So like saying my mom, I had her on.
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I actually did a podcast with her and I said I don't blame her
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at all for she did what she could with the information she
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had, right? So for me it was never.
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Be a doctor. Be a lawyer, you can be anything
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you. Want be an entrepreneur, it
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wasn't these things. It was surviving.
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She had a kid was making sure we had closed, making sure we were
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fed making sure it right. So and it was one income.
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So my dad worked, which ironically he was a banker.
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He was always a bank manager, whatever.
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And so I knew from the start that if I wanted something
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special, I had to work for it. I had to get a job.
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I had to get the money and pay for For it.
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So I knew from we had a garden, right?
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We had we would go to Hostess and buy the bread that was
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cheaper, right? We would.
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So I knew these things that my mom was doing, she would balance
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her checkbook. Religiously, my mom is so good
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at that. I remember watching my mom
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balance her checkbook. Every time she made a purchase,
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it would go right in her little account balance.
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And that's so funny because for me, I am opposite of that.
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And I I kind of think that maybe because of the way I was, as a
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rebellious I'm going to touch the stove kind of personality
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that maybe that work towards me, not doing it because I didn't
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want to do what they did. Or I didn't want to be told that
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I had to do something which it's weird how you take that in as a
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child, because you don't understand it, right?
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And then it turns into these kinds of habits and systems that
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you create in your Or blueprints for your bad habits as an adult.
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But you don't realize they're there.
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You don't realize they're there and it's interesting for you to
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say bad habits, right? Even just now thinking about, or
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maybe potentially judging the decisions that you made against
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how you were raised and what you learned or what you do.
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Now, of course, it usually is one of two ways.
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So in the Neuroscience of the way that we make up our stories
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and our own beliefs because that's not how you were raised.
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So, usually children will model The behavior that they learn
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from their parents and in some point either have to choose in
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or out of that or they go the opposite direction and it sounds
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like you just chose the opposite.
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Like I don't want to be with that the bike that and whatever
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you had made up in your head about it and then at some point
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started to move in the opposite direction.
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Knowing what you know now what do you think was going on at
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that time? What were the beliefs that you
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had about budgeting or not? Having enough, we talked about
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this when you interviewed me for your podcast, but for my
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listeners, So what were some of those beliefs that you had as a
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result of seeing your? It sounds like, essentially,
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they like be very mindful. Your, your mom had to be very
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mindful with money and you went the opposite direction.
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What were some of those beliefs that you had?
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And it probably, honestly was nothing to do with money but it
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was money. Was the thing under the thing,
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right? It always is there something the
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matter that thing but for mine, it was, I was embarrassed that
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we were poor. I mean, we weren't poor but I
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felt like that I was embarrassed that my friends had nice clothes
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and Whatever have nice houses and I so for me it was an image.
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I was embarrassed that we would go to church and maybe not look.
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As. Polished are polished, right?
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My poor mom is wrangling eight kids whom none of them want to
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go to church, okay? And my dad take baths or dick
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night and my dad is committed to this religion who where he's
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doing the best, what he thinks is right, but really that
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religion got more of him than us.
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Honestly, if you think about what a man's role is, in
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organized, religion, it is to be not only working your 9 to 5 or
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whatever you do, right? You're gone.
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But on, Sunday, you're completely committed to your
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callings after work, on the weekdays, you're committed to
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Collings whether that's in the bishopric whether that's in the
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Boy Scouts, whether that's in the right.
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You're committed to all of these different callings and we also
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had neighbors that would call him.
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If they had difficult, like the neighbor who had a difficult son
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and they would call my dad to come help them with this.
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So he was doing the best. He could to serve his community
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and be all of these things. When really he had Family at
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home that were maybe not getting as much of him as we should
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have. Hmm.
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So for me that that has played a huge role but okay, wow, where
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did we go with this? Okay.
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So anyway, wow, sorry, right turn.
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So back to that, I learned pretty quickly that I wanted to
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have nice things, so I want to have whether it was from making
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the money or by the time I made it to, I started working when I
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was 14 at a retirement home. Home and I loved it but minimum
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wage at that time is like $4 or yeah.
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It was like nothing. And so by the time I did
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actually get a job when I was 15 or 16 at the mall at PacSun, I
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got my first credit card and it was like $200.
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And so I would Max it out and buy what I wanted, right?
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And I would make payments, but I didn't fully understand.
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It's exactly what they get you for, you know, credit cards when
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used properly and your On them are amazing tools, right?
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But how many people is like, yes, wasn't built on winners,
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right? Same concept, the banks don't,
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you know, fund themselves on people who know how to play the
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game. So and that's that's where my
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trap began was when I was 15 years old, that two hundred
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dollar credit card, gotcha, so I also I had a very parallel
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experience not raised LDS. My mom was a stay-at-home mom
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and I had made a decision that I wanted nice things because we
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Can get the nice things growing up and so my credit card debt
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started in college was my for I got to college.
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I was like, whoa, people live so different from us from that
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Journey having nice things pack Center, remember packs and I
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always wanted to work at PacSun but I never thought I was cool
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enough. So you want the cool girls at
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PacSun? When did you meet your first
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husband in high school you started dating?
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When did you move to st. George So I moved to st.
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George actually, when he went to, he got a scholarship to see
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CSN. So I thought Not only was Dixie
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a good way to be close to him, but my family also, founded st.
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George. So, I have a partial scholarship
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at Dixie, so it just worked out and I would just drive to Vegas
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every weekend and so that's, we came.
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I came down to so I've lived in St.
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George now longer in my entire life than anywhere else.
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Yeah, I basically I'm from here, right?
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It's crazy to I mean Vegas Henderson and st.
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George or two of the fastest growing cities in America right
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now and remember growing up to drive through st.
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George it was kind of like it, just a blip.
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We always had to go through st. George but now it's massive.
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Yeah. How many millions of people is
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it like a million people yet? Two million people?
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I don't know. My husband so good about numbers
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like that and numbers for me, that's a blueprint numbers for
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me, is I shut down my brain literally shuts down when you
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start asking A know my kite. Mmm.
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And that's from my dad being a banker and trying to teach math
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to us and our homework and me not understanding it.
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So he'd get upset and I've nope, shut down now, I am shut down.
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Luckily, my little boys are math geniuses and my husband does it
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with them and I'm like, I'll get me on when you're ready to write
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papers in it. Come see me.
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But numbers know. So yeah, my husband knows, he's
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so interested in things like that.
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Like what's the population at? What's the The bubble, and I'm
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like, who cares? Yeah, yeah, thank you, it's
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crazy. Thank you for sharing that
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that's super vulnerable. And even in a conversation about
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money. My what I tell when I'm on stage
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is and what I'm talking to women, it's like you don't have
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to be great with numbers. I mean I chose my college major
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to say, okay, there's three Majors that require very little
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math. Which one am I going to do?
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You know, get me out of the math wheelhouse and the truth is you
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don't have to be great with numbers to be great with money
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and speaker. With your life and to have what
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it is, you say you want. So that's, that's, that's really
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great. I am really great.
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The way that this conversation is flashing out because that is
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been leading you into your 20s and were you working as a
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married woman? For the first time around, you
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were going to school where you also working on before even.
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We got married. So he was playing baseball and I
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was here at Dixie. So my job was a teller at US
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Bank and So I did, I had a job, a good job and ironically enough
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in the banking industry. You know, what's so funny about
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that? Is I my upbringing was all the
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background of the banking industry.
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My my job through college was that and still my concept of how
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it works. Was non-existent how interesting
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is that horrible as that? That's horrible.
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So I actually racked up and because my parents couldn't
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afford to give us a lot of things so my Luckily bless his
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heart. He did this.
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He found a way to basically not, take a loan out for me, but
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basically he would put whatever I did on a credit card, and
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because he was smart, art limit, he would get offers this said,
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okay, do you want to roll this over now at no interest, right?
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So, he would play that game for me in the background.
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I didn't have to worry about that but I was accumulating
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debt. So I went to Salt Lake Community
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College. First before I came down to
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Dixie, so whatever that cost or whatever.
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And then when I moved to Dixie, I had to put my housing on the
23:33
credit card. I had to put my my school what I
23:37
didn't get scholarship for which was not all of it and the books
23:41
and and living, whatever, you know, whatever.
23:42
And then after we got married things went on the credit card
23:47
like I had to buy a car, right? So I got a little Jetta that
23:50
went on the credit card. So honestly by the time I was
23:53
divorced and twenty one or two years old.
23:57
Right? I had 20,000 dollars of debt
24:01
that might thank goodness. My dad was playing the game for
24:04
me and rolling it over to no interest.
24:07
No interest, no interest. And I'm so grateful and blessed
24:10
that he could do that for me. But I still had it.
24:15
So at 20 sell their old. I had twenty thousand dollars
24:17
worth of debt that in some ways. Unconscious the accumulated.
24:22
Yeah. Yeah, similar story.
24:25
I was in my twenties with but yeah, about the same.
24:27
It's amazing how quickly it can happen.
24:30
Right and then we don't know what we don't know our brains
24:33
aren't fully developed and formed until our mid-20s male
24:36
and female 26, 27 years old. So we're making all of these
24:40
decisions and we're treated like adults in the finance industry
24:43
and we still have so much to learn and grow.
24:46
And, you know, just a few minutes to break.
24:49
This is the perfect segue because then you got remarried.
24:52
You met, Rick? You got remarried.
24:54
And I know from from the way that you we've shared this story
24:59
before it. Stop.
25:02
It sounds like it almost got worse.
25:04
Yeah, there was two of us with the same thinking.
25:07
Yeah, so help me understand. So from that transition you are
25:10
managing like minimum payments probably.
25:13
Yes, I was because at this time I was living with a roommate or
25:18
two in a town home and I still had my payments and I still had
25:21
everything, right? So I was basically barely making
25:24
payments and then having a little left over to be a 20 year
25:27
old and trying to go out and have drinks or go.
25:30
To dinner with friends or by the cute outfits I mean severe
25:34
shopping happen, right? And so then I met Rick and it
25:38
was the same thing. We he was starting a business
25:41
and making a lot of money. And so we started Living in a
25:46
lifestyle that was outside of our means.
25:49
It's he loves to say his favorite thing to say now is
25:52
it's not how much money you make.
25:54
It's how much money you spend. That is the secret.
25:57
It's if you can get ahold of that, then you will be in a
26:00
better. Better place, right?
26:01
And so it just and he actually didn't know about my twenty
26:06
thousand dollars in debt. Oh, yeah, that's a story for a
26:10
after the break. I don't know.
26:12
Get into that before. But uh, but this goes back to
26:15
being in, I wasn't, I mean, I guess I was embarrassed.
26:19
If I'm being honest, I was embarrassed about it but also we
26:22
don't talk about money, right? It's not your business.
26:26
It's my business. It's not something I talk about.
26:29
I wasn't raised that way. So To tell him this was none of
26:33
his business. I was handling it.
26:34
I was living my life in managing and making my own payments.
26:37
I didn't need a man to take care of me.
26:39
Right. So when we did get married, that
26:42
was still a secret and that came a obviously huge problem, right?
26:49
Like 20 grand that you don't know about and, and we worked
26:53
through it, but I did. I paid it all off myself and and
26:58
It was, but it was one of those things that I hid because of my
27:01
blueprints with money. Yep, it's all connected.
27:05
Mmm, it's all connected. Thank you for sharing that
27:08
there. There, there are women listening
27:10
to this right now who have secrets.
27:12
And so I do we have just a couple minutes to break but one
27:14
thing I would like to do is talk through and walk through that
27:17
Journey because it's really scary for a lot of people
27:21
thinking about not only, are they going to be mad at me which
27:24
is like the best possible outcome that they're just mad.
27:28
There's trust and betrayal and other other fears that people
27:33
have. And I don't know what yours
27:33
where, which we'll talk about when we pick up from the break,
27:36
but there's those fears that like I'm not they're going to
27:38
leave me or that this is going to cause a huge Rift or that,
27:42
you know, breaking trust all of that.
27:43
So we'll talk about that after the break with just a with just
27:48
a few seconds left while like 30 seconds left to break thinking
27:53
about where you are today, what would you have told that?
27:57
22 year old young woman. I get this question a lot
28:01
because I am in a women's community.
28:03
So it was actually on my last Friday episode.
28:05
They asked me what I would tell young girl Gina and it's don't
28:08
live your life for someone else. Don't check boxes.
28:13
Don't don't. Don't do things because you
28:16
think that's what they want you to do.
28:19
Who is they right? Live your life for you if you
28:23
want to buy a car, do it. But make the choices of It's
28:28
smart, right? If you don't want to get
28:30
married, but even though everybody in Utah says, get
28:32
married, don't do it live, your life for you.
28:36
I'm guessing that that's what revital revitalized Womanhood is
28:40
all about. Yeah, I can't wait to lean into
28:42
that and it's a it's a definitely a new way of being
28:46
and thinking for so many women, I can't wait to talk about that.
28:51
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32:16
Hello, we're back. That's so funny.
32:18
It says that that you can call in and I'm sitting here thinking
32:21
oh I hope my husband didn't just write that number down.
32:25
I hope he does. Call him.
32:26
That would be amazing. I would love to talk to me.
32:28
Dear any call Rick Hollis. He's on Dad life.
32:34
Yeah they at home dad now so he's probably entertaining the
32:37
two-year-old. Okay cool well that's cool too,
32:40
that's amazing. That's actually we were talking
32:42
about this on break. I actually love our break.
32:44
Some So much because we just get to like for a second before we
32:48
regroup for the second half of the show and I thought it was a
32:51
good segue to talk about Robin Sharma and what's the name of
32:54
the book who will cry when you die?
32:57
Yeah, we're talking about values and what's on your Tombstone and
33:01
like you can't take you can't take a U-Haul with you to have
33:04
him. Write like it all these
33:07
conversations which is a great segue to where you were living
33:11
and what life was like. And and similar ways.
33:14
I had a big crash Rash in my life around materialism and
33:17
about things and about what was really important.
33:20
But here's the truth for all of our listeners today.
33:22
If you want to know what your values are go, look at your bank
33:25
account. That would be, that would be
33:28
your homework is go look and see at what you're actually spending
33:32
your money on or where your money is going because you might
33:35
say that you value certain things.
33:38
But is it money coach? I have the privilege of looking
33:40
at people's money all day long and then I can point out like
33:44
this is what you say, this is actually what's really important
33:47
to you and I love like we were talking about introductions.
33:50
How you introduce yourself that your wife and a mother?
33:54
Because at the end of the day and and so many other Other
33:57
things, right? But what matters to you most is
34:02
the stuff that matters at the end of the day?
34:06
I'll say that I really believe that's the case.
34:08
And this great to like intersect to where we're coming to in the
34:12
show to talk about what happened at 25 and 26 for you and Rick.
34:16
But before we get there, what's present with you talking about
34:20
like what really matters? Well that's actually it's funny.
34:24
What just came to mind was my mom.
34:26
And she told me of this story and I'm going to paraphrase
34:29
because I wasn't there and obviously it's like a game of
34:32
telephone stories are right and she basically was at her High
34:36
School reunions and a very small Garland, very small town.
34:39
I mean they probably had 20 people there that was her
34:42
graduating class, who knows? And they she said that we stood
34:46
around and said what our greatest accomplishment was and
34:51
she said I was so embarrassed because I thought well, I
34:54
haven't done anything. What is my Greatest
34:57
accomplishment, I might have talked to her about this on mine
34:59
anyway, and, and I'm sitting there Ford while she's telling
35:03
this story because in my mind, I'm like, wanting to scream and
35:06
shake her but she's finishing her story and she says, I made
35:08
him skip me and I'll come back to me, you know, I let me think
35:11
about it, whatever. And I said, mother you have
35:15
raised eight children to be functioning participants in
35:22
society. Like we all have families, we
35:24
all have jobs, we all, you know, you know, I mean, like, we're
35:28
educated, some my sisters and my brothers and nurse practitioner,
35:31
my sisters are nurses. Like, we, you have successfully
35:36
raised a human beings to give back to this world in a way
35:39
that's amazing. And I'm like, there's not a
35:43
bigger accomplishment than that. I'm sorry.
35:45
There's not the, you can have one child and not even have them
35:49
come out that. Well, right?
35:51
So that means that you did so many things, right that It
35:57
filtered down into this like spider web of and now we've got
36:00
oh my gosh, so many grandkids, holy cow.
36:03
There's so many of us, we've multiplied, we're looking
36:07
repopulated, the Earth. Yeah, family alone.
36:10
So it's and that's going down and and my husband's Grandpa who
36:16
is very, very important to us and we'll get into that, why?
36:19
But he he is greatest fear. Was a not seeing his grandkids.
36:27
Get to live their lives, right? Because that was something, he
36:29
was really looking forward to. And be to not be remembered
36:33
because there's a statistic that is actually horrible and I hate
36:37
it and I don't even know if I should say it because I don't
36:40
know what that well. But basically by the second
36:42
generation after you've passed away, everybody's completely
36:45
forgotten about you. Like the stories don't get
36:47
passed on whatever and that is a huge deal for me.
36:50
We actually just came out of women's history month, right?
36:53
The women who tell our stories. And so, I focused a lot on That
36:57
in my community about what's the story that you're going to pass
36:59
on what's the stories that have been passed on to you.
37:02
What? Right and how you show up in
37:05
your life? That is a story you're telling
37:07
that is what's going to be remembered, right?
37:09
If you're just kind of like today's a day, yeah story you're
37:14
going to tell that's the story. Your kids will pass on or if
37:16
you're like, it's Monday, right? That's are going to read that
37:21
you're passing on. So, think about this and now
37:24
we're going into April, and we're going to start journaling.
37:26
And it's like, You have to pass this on if this is something
37:29
that you care about whether it's breaking a cycle, whether it's
37:34
not passing down a toxic trait, maybe it's whatever, or it's
37:38
something good or recipes or art that you've done created.
37:42
Pass it on, don't be forgotten because you were here, make a
37:46
mark right, you're here. So make them all right.
37:51
That's right. I love that.
37:52
There's so many women in the world today who believe that
37:55
they're insignificant. Yeah, there are and American
37:59
women. I believe this in my bones, to
38:01
my bones in American, women are the, are the way out for so many
38:04
women on this planet and there's women in the UK and like, women
38:09
are championing each other and stepping up in so many ways and
38:12
it's just art, it's our time to wrap.
38:13
Our arms around each other and say you matter, let's go.
38:16
Let's do this. Let's fix it.
38:18
Let's Change it and and for you like, that's what I love so much
38:23
about your life to date because you were only 40, I'm 43.
38:28
But you, you had a big thing happen and you and Rick used it
38:33
as an opportunity to say this is where we're out of alignment and
38:37
this is what needs to change. So we can be the people that we
38:39
are today for our kids, for other women, all the things.
38:43
So let's let's lean in there. What was going on in your 20s?
38:46
Early 20s with you and Rick? When 20 2008 happened, which
38:52
there was a lag in St, George and across the the country what
38:56
was going on? That was not working for you.
38:59
So first of all I think we all remember.
39:02
Interest only loans mmm-hmm you for that that was amazing.
39:07
What a great idea that was. So we were living high and large
39:12
because we were making so much money, my husband's company, he
39:16
had his one little business that he had started when we got When
39:19
we had gotten married at your service and then he started when
39:22
we got married a company called United wood products, and he so
39:26
Titan stairs, anybody in Vegas, you know, Titan stairs.
39:29
My father-in-law created Titan stairs and he, and Bill Burke
39:32
sold that and moved to st. George, and actually started
39:35
Titan stairs here. But so Rick did not want one of
39:38
those. So, his brother has one in Salt
39:40
Lake, and his other brother has won here in st.
39:42
George. And he thought, why don't?
39:43
I don't want that because I feel like it only serves this part of
39:47
the community, right? Because it does.
39:48
I mean you can only So big. And he says, okay, how can I
39:51
serve you and the rest of the world were, I'm going to start a
39:55
wood mill and ship it, right? I'm going to become United Wood
39:58
Products. So at that time, he had figured
40:01
out there was something happening at the borders where
40:05
the Chinese cargo containers were getting held up at the
40:10
ports and so he's like well I'm going to go to Mexico and his
40:13
dad who is in the wood industry and amazing Carpenter.
40:16
He was like you cannot do that. That's Both are quality isn't
40:20
great, we won't be able to do it whatever so Rick figured out a
40:23
way to throw some very interesting stories.
40:27
Wow of us going down into Mexico trying to find a mill.
40:32
It's that's for another podcast but yeah he found this wood mill
40:37
and figured out how to get it to the Quality that we needed for
40:41
America whatever. So Zip.
40:45
Bam, boom. It was the biggest building
40:48
industry, right? It was crazy.
40:49
Everything was going crazy. We were making so much money.
40:52
We went from being like, nothing brand-new company to making
40:56
hundreds of thousands of dollars like monthly, right?
41:00
And so we were making really good money and spending it not
41:03
saving it spending it and also the funniest part about it was,
41:06
we were traveling and spending our cash, right?
41:09
But also putting a lot of things on like, financing things like,
41:14
We had a Big Dog Chopper that's when that was all in the old
41:18
Chopper rage, you know, went through and we had the brand-new
41:22
has four wheeler and we had our house and we had a Jeep and we
41:25
had my car and we, you know, we just had all these toys.
41:28
We were just Newly Weds, young having so much fun, right?
41:33
And then when it all started crashing down around us was
41:38
honestly, because of the business first, because they
41:42
went to Big in their overhead. You guys, Guys, this my husband
41:46
will tell you from the get-go. Why do you need the big signs?
41:50
Why do you need the flashy? Why do you need you?
41:52
Don't you need a garage right Titan stairs.
41:56
Came to st. George.
41:57
And he built it out of his garage.
41:59
Like, you don't need all the fancy will.
42:01
So he and his partner at the time.
42:03
They did not do that. They got a brand new building.
42:05
They got a brand new showroom. They got the big sign, right,
42:08
ever, whatever. So What by the time the crash
42:11
really started affecting the building industry Here in St.
42:15
George I think we were six hundred thousand dollars in debt
42:21
and had all of this inventory. We couldn't sell or anything.
42:23
Right. So that took the biggest toll
42:27
that and trying to save ourselves and save face.
42:32
Were the biggest downfalls for us because we were all putting,
42:37
all of our cash that we did have into is trying to save things
42:41
that we had no idea. We couldn't save.
42:43
We had no idea, right? Buddy, that's listening to this.
42:45
That went through, this is like, yes.
42:47
If I would have had that magic 8 ball, right?
42:49
If I had the crystal ball saying Let It Go, just Let It Go right
42:54
now, just walk away, let it go right, because you're not going
42:57
to be able to say that but we didn't.
42:58
So we had two years of trying to save everything.
43:01
Well, in on the other side of that, not only are we prideful
43:05
and we don't want people to know that we were getting everything.
43:07
Repossessed even though everybody was getting
43:10
everything. Why would we be so prideful?
43:12
That we were any different, like know, our Didn't get taken away
43:16
or just you know downsizing. Yeah like right we had and my
43:23
husband has so many of his own stories during this time, that
43:27
our drama, right? But anyway, you were trying to
43:30
save face. That is the long and short of
43:32
it. We were prideful we were trying
43:34
to look good still for who like keeping up with the Joneses,
43:38
what Jones's? We had a best friend that was
43:40
had built too many houses and he was trying to get us to buy one.
43:44
One and they it was a ten thousand dollar payment.
43:46
It's only a ten thousand dollar payment.
43:48
You can afford that whatever if we would have done that to oh my
43:51
God. But so but at the time not even
43:55
our home and our cars and whatever that we're getting
43:58
repossessed, we could not go bankrupt, it was not an option.
44:02
We had six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in debt that
44:04
were guaranteed by Rick's dad's property that he earned himself
44:11
and bought because he sold Titan and got to come here and have
44:14
his Ranch. Right.
44:15
Well his his Ranch was the what held?
44:18
The no on our loan. He did not have an option to let
44:22
it all go. There's no, there were so many
44:25
lessons going on so many lessons that we could not see at the
44:29
time, right? Because at the time we were just
44:31
rounding and in pain and you weren't even 30 yet?
44:34
Oh, not even 30 yet, we were 25 26, we were and and Rick went
44:40
into depression from it even and he probably doesn't recognize
44:44
that I don't. Know if he would have recognized
44:45
that now even, but I saw it as a wife.
44:49
And so there is so much from that time because of how he
44:52
started acting and withdrawing from me and hiding in his office
44:56
and, you know, like going inward feeling ashamed.
44:59
Feeling like he's letting everyone down feeling like a
45:02
failure, right? That turned into not connecting
45:05
with his wife and not. And so, I have Trauma from that.
45:09
That actually, interestingly enough, he started playing on
45:13
his phone, the other night, a game, That he was really super
45:17
into and it triggered me. Instantly went back to that
45:21
wife, like newlywed wife begging, her husband to go, hang
45:25
out with her or begging him to come out of this dark room and
45:28
he wouldn't and it was, it was interesting.
45:31
We're trauma hides in you, it does.
45:34
And I would have never thought about that again, it was just
45:36
something that happened, but he sat there and he started playing
45:39
that game and it triggered me. And I was like, whoa, that was
45:42
weird. Hmm.
45:44
Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.
45:45
It's so great that you're so self-aware to be able to
45:48
recognize that because a lot of people cannot recognize it that
45:51
they're being triggered. And from what it's from doing,
45:54
all this work that I'm doing, honestly, this city is not just
45:58
for the women that I serve or that, help me.
46:02
It's, I'm I create these monthly topics for what, specific in my
46:06
life right now, and it's like, it's human nature.
46:10
We're not all this unique, like it's only happening to me,
46:13
right? We are Connected and commonality
46:15
through Womanhood. So it is happening to all of us.
46:18
I am having the same fight about loading.
46:19
The dishwasher with my has been the, some poor woman in Croatia
46:22
is having with her husband. As a woman in Sydney, Australia
46:26
is having right? We are all having the same
46:28
fights were all having the same struggles.
46:30
So if I'm having it, it's more than likely, a lot of you are
46:35
having a to, I'm sorry. That's right.
46:37
Yeah, let's, let's talk about then the pivot, the pivotal
46:41
moment I know for me that I remember there were two like
46:44
Very pivotal moments in my life where I was like, man, I need to
46:47
change. I need to change this.
46:48
I need to change it now for you and Rick.
46:50
When did when did you know that you had to shift?
46:54
You had to change. So we finally did lose our house
46:57
and we moved into I was I think seven months pregnant with our
47:01
first baby, we moved into. Luckily his grandparents had a
47:04
basement that we could move into and they were so welcoming and
47:08
loving to let us do that and that's his grandpa, who has had
47:12
such a big, big impression on him and Us.
47:15
But we moved into their basement and it was so, The meaning like
47:23
the feeling was we just felt so much shame around it, right?
47:26
That we had to do this. That we were this old and we
47:29
should know better and we should have been better and it's like,
47:32
goes back to what you said that word.
47:34
This, you're not even a person until you're at least 25 or 26.
47:37
Your brains been developing and they're expecting us to like
47:41
come out of high school and get married and have children and no
47:46
wonder relationships fell because who trained you how to
47:49
have a relationship? Nobody known pulled You aside
47:51
and said, this is how you are a mom.
47:53
This is how you get married. This is this is how your wife.
47:56
This is how you write. These are the things not the.
47:58
Look at the classes, you're taking Youth Of America.
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And is it learning these Concepts that you will need as
48:07
an actual human being functioning in the world, right?
48:10
Not, I don't even know what they teach you in college anymore,
48:13
but I know mine. They didn't teach me anything
48:15
that I use. Not life skills. 101, not life.
48:18
Skills needs to be like my He just had our eleven-year-old
48:23
read, Think and Grow Rich. Mmm.
48:26
And he gave him a test on it and he paid him $50 for doing it.
48:30
If you come ask the best, you can do it and he makes my 11
48:33
year old Nate year old. Get out of the car.
48:35
Go in the grocery store with the list and the credit card and go
48:38
grocery shopping. Yeah.
48:40
And he's teaching them these life skills.
48:42
I say he because he's the stay-at-home dad right now.
48:44
Me was mom doing it. Guess what?
48:46
Mom was doing? I was warming their close-up in
48:48
the dryer before they woke up so that they could put Put on cozy
48:52
warm clothes like hello, whose world are they going to succeed
48:56
in? All right, moms that swarming.
48:58
Their close-up in the dryer before they go to school and
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coddling them or Dad's it's like go get the groceries.
49:04
Yeah you got the wrong milk, go take it.
49:08
I'm a boy. Mom to a my husband and I have
49:10
this conversation all the time which is a little off topic but
49:13
we'll come back around to it. It's just being mindful about
49:16
the kind of people that we really want to raise and it's
49:18
writing very like it 8 years old.
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I mean, Kids, certain parts of the world that are running and
49:24
managing their families at eight.
49:25
And nine years old, our kids are more than capable of doing some
49:29
of these things, we get to treat them that way and show them the
49:32
way. And I love that a lot of
49:33
entrepreneurs are doing that today, with our kids, which is
49:36
really cool. So that's I sorry.
49:38
I was off topic there, but it's okay point.
49:41
We were in this basement. I was working in as an emergency
49:44
dispatcher. So that was my, that was our
49:46
only income, right? So we have nothing else so which
49:50
was not a lot at the time because they Were in a, in a
49:52
freeze, a spending freeze. So it was like, $14, an hour was
49:55
not much and I couldn't get over time, I couldn't get anything,
49:57
it was not like a great government job.
49:59
It was because the economy was crashing, they all the
50:01
governments were shutting down furloughing all we could do so
50:04
anyway, that's fine. $14 an hour.
50:06
That's what we had. So this is what we have to like
50:09
take a cold hard look. And so Rick started getting into
50:11
the Dave Ramsey's so he's like, we're going to do the envelope
50:14
system were going to budget. We're going to live off ramen,
50:17
noodles. I mean, we are going to just
50:19
this lifestyle has to become Completely different.
50:23
And that's that's what happened. It wasn't like a quick fix.
50:27
Like I'm going to lose 10 pounds, this month.
50:29
It was, this is a lifestyle. We have got to be okay with what
50:34
did keeping up with the Joneses. Get us.
50:36
What did caring, what anybody thinks about us?
50:39
Where did that get us? Like, are they here paying our
50:42
bills know? Like they know but it's here.
50:45
It's us. It is us.
50:46
We have to make these decisions. So so we sat down and said what
50:50
are our goals? And what do we want for our
50:52
life? Okay, so we said, this is what
50:55
it, what it is, and this is what it looks like, okay, how do we
50:57
get there? So this is how we get there.
50:59
We have to change our spending habits.
51:01
We have to change our livelihood.
51:02
We have to commit to this. Like it's a lifestyle, right?
51:07
And that's where it started that, that was the pivotal turn
51:11
and it was now looking back. That is exactly where when you
51:16
say, how can you Be so confident in yourself and how can you, you
51:22
know, everybody to some degree cares?
51:24
What people think? I mean I don't leave the house
51:27
without mascara on that's caring what people think, right.
51:30
But to this point, that is the best part of I stopped caring
51:37
what people think because where did that get me?
51:39
Nowhere. And so from that point on we I
51:42
saw a little note. Sorry.
51:43
Where's your SLI Google? From that point on.
51:45
We just did everything we could and I don't know if you It is it
51:49
bam. Boom this but it lets and boom.
51:52
That's two minute to turn around B.
51:54
Bam. Boom.
51:55
Went from nothing to the secrets of figuring out how to have
52:01
eight vacation rentals here in St.
52:03
George and getting our business back on track and traveling the
52:08
world with our little boys for three years around.
52:10
You know, 40 plus countries and living totally debt free,
52:16
Financial Freedom and passive income.
52:19
So, I'm sorry, we had to zip, bam.
52:21
Boom, that there's so much more to that story, so much more
52:25
secrets to how we did it. You know, we got very creative.
52:30
We got very creative, how we got our first, because we didn't
52:32
have any credit, right? So, our first condo was a hard
52:36
money loan because people knew we had cash, because we'd been
52:39
saving it and saving it, saving it in someone new because my
52:42
husband talks about money. Someone knew we had 60 gram.
52:45
That we could hard money loan somebody.
52:47
Well, the collateral for that. Our first condo.
52:50
And then the next condo we got we got owner financed by the
52:54
people who owned it. Like, you can be creative, there
52:57
are ways to do these things. Be creative, think, outside the
53:00
box. Here's what it comes down to.
53:03
There's a lot of people that don't want to go outside the
53:05
box, because it requires them to want to ask for help.
53:08
Yes. And to be vulnerable and take
53:12
risks, and that's the hard thought that they're just going
53:15
to do it themselves and do it themselves and do it themselves
53:18
versus what? I'm Hearing you say, is you went
53:20
and started talking to people and you started negotiating and
53:23
you started advocating for what it is that you really want and
53:26
you and Rick are on the same page and you started taking
53:30
action in that direction which is lended itself to being
53:33
retired, being a stay-at-home dad in his 30s, he gets to spend
53:36
time with his kids every single day.
53:38
What a blessing you're doing what you want to do in your
53:42
life. You're living a life that's on
53:43
fire and purposeful and I want to I want to land the show here.
53:49
And I would love for you to come back and share all the all the
53:51
secrets will you do that. Now there's a whole part two to
53:54
this life. Okay yeah we're going to do part
53:56
two. This is really important that
53:58
women here that like that one, bankruptcy or losing everything
54:02
is a big fear for a lot of people and it's not the end, it
54:05
can be beginning. Yep.
54:07
So that's a huge, right? It's the beginning.
54:09
It's not the end, but you got to change.
54:11
You got a course, correct. Let's talk though if you can in
54:14
a minute, what is the revitalized?
54:17
Womanhood world, what does it mean to you today, the
54:23
Revitalize Womanhood, the whole thing behind it is showing women
54:27
that were allowed to make choices.
54:29
In our own lives, were allowed to live intentionally and not
54:32
for someone else. So what what I just talked
54:35
about, it's like waking up and not taking the victim.
54:38
Mentality of all these women who are making jokes online about
54:42
being a mother and it's so hard that they'd rather throw
54:46
themselves over a banner. Esther to get a vacation in the
54:49
hospital or saying that your husband is an idiot and
54:52
worthless. And all of these accounts that
54:54
make fun of these kinds of things, know you made a choice
54:57
to be a wife, you made a choice to be a mother live, your life
55:01
intentionally and create this ideal life of purpose and
55:07
impact, right? You have the ability to do that
55:10
and it starts with your choices and being intentional about
55:14
them. The perfect way to end the show.
55:16
I couldn't agree with you more. Yeah, thank you for being here
55:20
today, Gina Jinx. We're both aware that we were.
55:25
Okay, so we were Instagram friends and like she was like in
55:28
my staff and I was like in her staff and now here we are, and I
55:31
really I love the power of The Sisterhood.
55:34
And I look forward to co-creating so many things to
55:36
come. Thank you so much for being a
55:38
part of the Romanov, family. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
55:41
I appreciate it. Yeah, okay, so quickly, where
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can people find you? Revitalize Womanhood.com or
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Revitalize Womanhood on Instagram podcast YouTube.
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I made it really easy guys. For vitalized Womanhood.
55:54
Cool, shoutout to Gina. Let us know what you liked about
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today's show. Will you back with next week's
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Thanks for joining us on the real money show.
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