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- Bryan: We talk about evil a lot on this show, but what happens when the evil is sleeping in the next room? When the people who are supposed to protect you from the monsters are the monsters themselves. Kids are being treated worse than animals in American homes right now. Starved, locked in closets, caged, forced to eat dog food. And most of the time the people doing this shit are their own parents. Unfortunately, this is more prevalent than we would like to believe. Tonight we're not looking away. This one's gonna be dark, it's real, and hiding from it doesn't make it go away. Stick with us. Hey, welcome back to the Sense and Senseless Podcast. I am Bryan.. Jason: No, I'm Jason. Bryan: Yes, Jason. This is the first time joining us. Welcome to the family. We're just two guys discussing shit in a way that everyone can understand. All right, so this one's gonna be heavy. This is your trigger warning now. Viewer discretion is advised. my wife asks me all the time, how can I read this stuff and not let it destroy me? I explained it it it's not that it doesn't affect me. I'm curious as to why people do this shit, why people are evil. I believe you need to understand this. Knowing that evil is out there helps you stay focused on what is good in the world. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: And it also reminds you that the quiet, normal looking person next door can be capable of some unthinkable shit. Trust should be earned. And today I think we give out trust like it's free. Yeah, I hope that this episode opens the eyes of whoever may be watching or listening because there's a lot of evil people out there. And evil people doing things to good kids is not only wrong, but it can lead those kids growing up and doing similar things to kids or someone else. It's a never-ending cycle, and in some cases, and burying your head in the sand doesn't help the issue. This episode is about the evil living inside the home. The people were supposed to protect kids from evil in the world and instead become the boogeyman the kids need protection from. In recent news and media, you might have heard about Lindsay Lindsay Clancy. If you don't know, this lady was she strangled three kids her three kids to death back in twenty twenty three. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: I didn't know a whole lot about this case, so I had to look into it a little bit. And she was a former labor and delivery nurse, so she'd be around a few babies in her life. But in January 2023, while her husband went out to get food, she picked up her fitness ban and strangled her three children. One by one. Cora, age five, Dawson, age three, and Callan, eight months old. She then cut her wrist and jumped from a second story window in an attempt to kill herself. The bitch survived, but was paralyzed from the waist down. The two older kids were pronounced dead that night, and the baby died days later. She pled not guilty for by reason of insanity, claiming postpartum psychosis. Apparently she had experienced the escalating postpartum mental health crisis and was reportedly hearing a voice telling her to die and that her children would suffer without her. She was tried for this shit earlier this year, and somehow the trial ended up in a fucking mistrial after the jury was deadlocked. Deadlocked at 11 to 1. Only one of the jurors thought she was guilty after forty hours of deliberation. Eleven jurors found her not guilty by reason of insanity. She is currently in a middle hospital where she has been since killings in twenty twenty three. The prosecutors have indicated they plan to retry the case. No, I I don't claim that I know what it's like to be a woman, nor do I claim to understand postpartum mental shit. I just don't. But not guilty. fuck. Really? If if you strangle your fucking kids, it is no doubt that you're likely insane. But in my opinion, that doesn't make you not guilty. Your job as a fucking mother was to protect those children. Period. Jason: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Bryan: A as a matter of fact, your only job as a mother's simplest fucking form is to keep those kids alive until they can take care of themselves, just like any other animal. Jason: Dude, she didn't kill one. She didn't kill two. She killed three. What Bryan: Yeah, that is Jason: the fuckin' Workout band It takes time to choke somebody to death and you did it three times back to back to back. You know what I'm saying? That ain't no different than that cat That killed his his wife and his two kids cause he he was gonna leave his wife for this other girl and the other girl said she couldn't do kids. So Bryan: really? Jason: yeah. So this cat li worked on an oil field and freaking put his two kids in an oil well after he killed them. Bryan: Wow. People are sick. Jason: And the and the and the hole in that oil well, I mean, he had to force them in there to get in there. Bryan: So did the girlfriend that he wanted to be with, did she help or she didn't know? Jason: No, she didn't help. She just told him I don't do kids. Bryan: That must have been some good pussy. I mean to kill your fucking kids? Jason: I'm just saying he didn't he didn't get a pla yes, he didn't get a plea to insanity. Bryan: I think he was the one telling me that there was a uprise on online about this case with women. Jason: yeah, dude. There was a woman in Illinois that killed her kid during this because she was enamored with this trial. She killed her baby. Bryan: That is fucking Jason: And said that some that she heard voices saying that that her baby was evil. Bryan: This lady's gonna likely sit in a mental institution the rest of her life, right? And I don't I don't wish that on anybody. She probably needs it. But that where's the justice for them fucking kids? You know what? Jason: Never had a chance. Bryan: Never. Jason: Five years old, man. What what do you do? I don't even remember when I was five. Bryan: The eight month old. Jason: The eight month old didn't. Bryan: Three year old. How do you do that? Jason: I don't I don't know. Bryan: there's a lot of times I didn't like my kids, but I always loved them. I still love I Jason: Mm-hmm. Right. Bryan: can't say loved. I love in the buttons. But yeah, I I I would never I don't never want to kill And again, I I don't I Jason: Now I d I wanted to choke my son out a couple of times, but not take his life, but I wanted to Bryan: Well, you know what I'm getting at. Exactly. Jason: at least let him pass out and scare him that he lost his life and then come to and see me be like, You wanna try that shit again? No, I we all wanna like scare our kids sometimes because they're just stupid and I was stupid too. You were stupid too. We Bryan: yeah. Jason: were all stupid as kids cause we think we know everything and we don't. But d to ever want to take your kid's life Bryan: Yeah. Jason: It it was never that bad. Bryan: No. It's it's a little fucked up. And we're gonna see a lot more fucked up shit in this episode as we go forward. And I wanted to open Yeah, I I opened Jason: Walk out the damn room. Leave the house. Bryan: with that one because I figured more people knew about that. Yeah, I d I didn't know a whole Jason: yeah, that's a biggie. That's a biggie. Bryan: lot about that one. I just did a little research on I still don't know a whole lot about it. That's basically what I got out of it. But yeah, I I again I don't understand that post bardom stuff. It could screw you up. I don't know. But to kill three kids, yeah. Jason: Sh she had a lot of support. She had a lot of support, dude. I'm telling you, there was a lot of women supporting her. It was sick. That's sick. I'm sorry. if you're like, well, she did maybe she do you still don't have to support that she killed three kids. Bryan: So if they have that many women that support what she did because of I'm assuming because she was under psychosis of postpartum mental illness, right? That that's i is that what you're saying they supported her because of that? Okay, Jason: Yeah, I think that's what they were Bryan: because I can't see any other reason of supporting her for killing her kids. So maybe they feel sorry for her for that. Jason: then they tried to spin it that the husband did it. That he drugged her up and Bryan: Okay, well, let me go back to the postpartum first. So Jason: Okay, but yes. Bryan: I'm assuming, again, I don't know, but I'm assuming that most of these women are probably supporting her because they feel that she actually had a psychosis from postpartum. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: That would lead me to believe that this support was coming from people that also experienced postpartum. Right? Jason: Okay. Yeah. Bryan: How would how would you know how bad it is if you have never experienced? So, how can you support someone that killed three fucking kids? You can support somebody that done a lesser fine, but somebody how do you support fully support somebody that killed three fucking kids because of their mental aptitude if you don't understand their mental aptitude? You see what my point? So Jason: I don't know. Yeah, I understand that part, but I still think that every woman thinks that sometime in in their postpartumness that they had some kind of is y mental issue going on because of Bryan: And that Jason: their hormones and all that. Bryan: and that's what I'm getting at. If they all understood that, that means they all felt that but didn't act at some point. So that is creepier to me than her just doing that. Does that make sense? Because that means to me that the amount of support she had, there was a lot of women that really wanted to kill their fucking kids. That's how I see it. that's the only logical Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: way I can see it. They they didn't act on it, but they understood the postpartumness. I don't understand how you can understand postpartumness. See that she killed all three kids, right? Support her and not had gone through that yourself. In your mind, at least. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: I don't know, it just don't make sense Jason: Now Bryan: to me. Jason: hey, I've I've heard of dudes I do not ever support or or or agree with a man putting his hands on a woman. Bryan: I agree with you on that. Jason: But at the same time, I've heard of them getting done and I knew who the woman was. And I don't agree with him, but I I guarantee you pushed him. Bryan: You understand. Jason: I understand what he did, but I don't agree with it. And I would I would I know what I would do if if I got that point, I would walk away. You know, I would feel that coming on, I'm walking away. Some but I understood. Just like if somebody kills somebody, there's been times where somebody has taken somebody else's life and I don't agree with it, I don't condone it, but I understood. Bryan: I I I agree with what you're saying. Th there's a big difference though. This lady Jason: Yes. Bryan: whole purpose in life was to raise those kids until they can do for themselves. Period. That that was her whole purpose. Jason: Yes. No. Nope. Nope. Nope. If you're hearing voices at some time you gotta raise your hand and say, I'm hearing shit. get these kids away from me because I'm gonna do harm to you know what I'm saying? Admit that you're fixing to do something. Bryan: And for anyone that thinks I'm sexist for saying that that woman's whole purpose in life was to raise those kids until they can take care of themselves, that is no different for me as a dad. My whole purpose in life while my kids were young until they could take care of themselves was to make sure they had Jason: Support your kids. Bryan: what the fuck they needed to where they could grow up and support themselves. Period. That was my job. Her Jason: Yes, yep. Yep. Bryan: my wife's job was to keep them alive. It didn't matter how we we tried our best to make sure they came out good kids. But we did what we could do to keep them alive. That was our job. That's it the simplest form is to keep your fucking kids alive. And she couldn't even do that. Right. So again, I open with all that because most people are familiar with that. And I didn't get into all the internet chatter during that case. And I'm really honestly, I'm not that interested in it. It I just not. but I'm more interested in why we have so many parents that abuse their fucking kids. And I looked up some stats. About eighteen hundred to two thousand children die from abuse and neglect each year in the United States. Official numbers from 2023 was around 2,000. 2024, around 1,800 child fatalities. This equates to roughly five kids killed every day. 81% of these deaths involved at least one parent. Mothers, along with others, and both parents together are the most common murderers of their own children. Majority of these children are killed by a family member. And tonight we're gonna go through some of these cases. We're gonna start with Timothy Ferguson. I don't know if you heard about this case. I just come across it this week. Timothy was starved to death by his mother and his brother. Timothy was autistic. He had ADD, HD, and his mom had just stopped giving him his meds when he moved in with his mom a year or so earlier before they started starving him. Why did she do this? Why did she stop giving his meds? Her explanation was her ex-husband had the medical card and she couldn't get his medicine or bring him to his doctor's appointment. Here's a short video to give you some background on what I'm talking about. Jason: Jeez. Bryan: Yep. Bitch tortured a kid for roughly six months. Jason: And then she throws up on stand. I guarantee she was bend over, it's probably sticking her finger in her throat to fucking Bryan: yeah. Jason: throw up. That was all a facade. Bryan: All of it. It was it was unreal. Jason: Yeah, you don't do that for six months and then all of a sudden have a conscience. You're evil. Bryan: Or she had no conscience. Jason: No, she's evil. Bryan: When the police arrived, there's body cam footage, all this shit you can see online. when they arrived at the house, they saw a bunch of strange shit. And there was some cameras with motion sensors and shit. It was around the house. And they also, of course, seen this 15-year-old kid that weighed roughly 69 pounds that threw up some red flags. When they were questioning Timothy's mom about the condition of Timothy, she told the police that he was on a hunger strike. So she was sitting outside. You can see all this on body cam too, and they're asking and he pretty much went on a hunger strike because his his stepdad had had a stroke and moved out and was back with his parents. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: And that change of events caused Timothy to quit eating. But yet they had locks on the pantry and the refrigerator so he couldn't get any fucking food. They had him sleeping in a fucking closet. The little brother, he referenced the closet as a small room. The little brother, you actually have a video of him. It's not a testimony, but he was speaking with the counselor. And you know, he's describing all this stuff. That's what actually cracked the case was the little brother. There was a camera also in his closet. So they could watch him. There was motion detectors on him so they knew if he was moving. They put him in diapers. And if he asked to go to the bathroom, he had to be granted com permission and he was fucking timed. He got one minute to take a piss and he had two minutes to take a shit. This bitch put a blue tarp in the closet with Timothy. So if he had to piss it wouldn't mess up her carpet. He was found dead in the small closet on a urine stained tarp. Sometimes they'd let him go outside and walk the dog, but it was only in the backyard. He didn't get to leave the house. Some of the punishment was to eat bread soaked in hot sauce with no fucking water. And not just any hot sauce. This shit was called Elijah's Extreme Regret, which contained Carolina Reaper and Trinidad Scorpion Peppers. The label on the bottle had warnings of extreme pain and regret. But if Timothy ate the bread, his reward was to get another. Piece of bread that was plain. His mom and his older brother did this shit to him. There was also his little brother living in the house. Like I said, when the counselor was speaking to the little brother, he would he would tell them, some how they would watch him all the time on television. the little brother described how they would basically punish Timothy and through the little brother, I think he was like eight or nine years old, they were able to attain a search warrant to go into the house. When they went back in the house, of course, a lot of the camera evidence and shit was gone. But there was a camera left in the closet that they had Timothy living in. And inside that camera, they still had the memory card. And that had video on it that was damning. And that was pretty much the beginning of the end for that bitch. The Jason: Hmm. Bryan: the older brother ended up testifying against the mother. He ended up going to prison too. You can see his whole testimony online. The coroner's report has Timothy ult ultimately died from malnutrition and hypothermia. and one other detail I forgot to add, when when they put him in the ice bath, Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: his brother Paul, when he was on the stand, they were talking about how they made him lay in an uncomfortable position. And they would ask him what it meant. But basically he had to lay to where he wasn't just laying in the fucking tub. He had to lay in a position to where he couldn't get comfortable. So it's bad enough you're in a fucking ice bath, but now you gotta lay in an uncomfortable position. And it there's a lot of details to the story. A lot of them are fucking disturbing. And I'm not gonna go through them all, but I I encourage you to look into the case. His name was Timothy Ferguson. It's it's pretty sad what they did to that kid. And he was living with his dad, and I don't remember exactly why he ended up going with his mom. And he he he was with his mom for about a year before this happened. And like I said, the stepdad ended up with a stroke. And then maybe the stepdad was the one that was taking care of him while he was there. I don't know. But how do you do that to your son? How do you do that to your brother? And it's not like they just buried him in a basement. The the other brothers lived in a room with that closet. So it's not like they didn't see Timothy. It's not like he was Jason: Right. Bryan: locked in a basement. These people lived around him. That's just fucking awful. Jason: Disgusting. Bryan: If this is making you feel something, do me a favor, real quick. Like this, share it, follow us, and subscribe. So we can keep doing episodes like this. The algorithm hates uncomfortable truth. So we need you to help us push it. Take two seconds. Thank you. Also, if you got a case, a story, or you just want to talk shit, hit us up at the Sense and Sisters Podcast at Outlook.com. All right. Let's keep rolling a little more. Let's talk about a little more of this shit. not that it makes me happy to talk about, but it's there's a lot of it going on, and these these kids, their names don't get out there. The sad part is that just one fucked up individual in a beautiful world, there's a lot of monsters out here. And I know this shit's uncomfortable, but these children deserve to have their stories told. Alright, here's Deshaun Martinez, a flagstaff. Six-year-old Deshaun weighed 18 pounds at the time of death. He and his older brother were locked in a small closet 16 hours a day for about a month as punishment for stealing food at night. Their mother pled guilty to first degree murder and child abuse and received life without parole. Their father was convicted of first degree murder and related charges and sentenced to life plus additional time. Grandmother was also charged. Jason: He's Bryan: Six year olds. Jason: Six years old, dude. Grandma Bryan: Waits. Jason: gets in on this one. Bryan: They say weighed eighteen pounds. Jason: That's disgusting, man. How do you sit there and look at that and be like, how do you justify doing that? Bryan: There's a special place in hell for these people. David Alman, fourteen year old with autism, one of triplets, died of malnutrition due to starvation and neglect after being returned by the Department of Children and Families to his father's home. He weighed roughly 80 pounds when found unresponsive in deplorable conditions. Father John Alman and his girlfriend Jacqueline Coleman fled guilty to second degree murder and were sentenced to life. The state later agreed to to a ten million dollar settlement over alleged DCF failures. Fourteen years old, eighty pounds. Jalen Goldsboro, severely disabled 13-year-old, required tube feeding from earlier abuse, was found dead, weighing 24 pounds, covered in bed sores and acute pneumonia. Cause was starvation. Mother pled no contest to second degree murder. Her living boyfriend pled guilty to felony child neglect. 13 years old. She had a tube from earlier abuse. That's the only way she can eat from being abused. Why the fuck was she still with this family? Jason: That's crazy, man. The system's failing these kids too. Bryan: Horrible. It's horrible. It is the system failing when the first line of defense should be the parents. Yes, I agreed that what happened there with the tube feet the feeding tube and shit. And I would have man, this shit might have been going on a long time and maybe we're just looking into it, you know, to say that. But I would assume that years ago this might not have been so much of a problem. I would think they had more humanity. But it seems like a few of these so far has been disabled autistic children. So it's like children that are problematic, maybe? I don't know. Jason: Well neither. Bryan: All right. Two year olds starved. Bryson Mealy, two-year-old found dead, weighing a little over 21 pounds. Autopsies showed empty stomach and intestines, and death from nutritional deprivation, starvation with dehydration. Mother was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life without parole plus additional years. Evidence included her being on the phone for many hours while the child received no food or drink. Jason: You know how you stop this shit? Bryan: Why's that? Jason: The people responsible for this shit needs to be treated just like they did their kid. Bryan: I would be for that. I'm not against that. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Jason: Yeah. We're about to see how you like being starved. How about Bryan: It's pretty fucked up. Jason: some Carolina Reaper and Scorpion Bre, bitch. You know what I'm saying? Bryan: They they talk about the Holocaust and everything, and pro people probably say you can't compare this to the Holocaust. You're starving kids. you Jason: Anybody starving is like the Holocaust. That's what they did to the Jews. Bryan: Exactly. we talk so bad about it, but why aren't these people aga first of all, I don't want to give these people and say, hey, look, you know, they need to be celebrities for fucking killing their kids, kind of like that other lady was that we talked about at the beginning. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: But having said that, something needs to change. Something needs to happen. You know, they they might need more attention than what they got. You know? I I don't know how you stop it, but Maybe what you say that that's a good deterrent. I can tell you that. It'll never happen, but it's a good deterrent. Jason: So Bryan: Now this name on my Jason: It'd be a win. Bryan: what's that? Jason: It'd be a win. Bryan: This name I'm a butcher, Jamique Maudlin. Jason: That's what it looks like. Yeah. Bryan: Four year old weighed nineteen pounds at death from chronic starvation malnutrition. Parents charged with manslaughter and related offenses amid prior child welfare reports. All right. All right, so now if this ain't bad enough, I got a little video for you. This bitch right here, she she takes takes it to another level. Well, let me rephrase that. She don't take it to another level. It's a whole different realm of fucked up. Let's put it that way. Fucked up is that. When I first seen that, I was like, man, that's fucked up. You know what? My next thought was Who the fuck's who's fucking that nasty bitch? Jason: That dude in that picture. Bryan: Yeah, I know. That's what I'm getting at. that that man, it's nasty. So yeah, there's that. Just having babies in toilets and What is wrong with people? Jason: That's disgusting, dude. Bryan: Can you stomach a few more? Jason: Yeah, it's Bryan: I got some kids that were tortured but survived. Jason: Mm. Bryan: I don't know if that's any better, but Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Goodman family, a 14-year-old girl was found nearly comatosed in August of 2025, weighing around 35 pounds. She had multi-organ failure, severe malnutrition, hypothermia, and other complications, and was so close to death. Authorities alleged she had been kept in a locked bedroom with restricted food, water, and bathroom access and forced to sleep on the floor. Her father still Stepmother and two other adults living in the home faced chronic neglect and false imprisonment charges. The stepmom received fifteen years in prison and the others received multi-year sentences. The girl recovered and was placed with another family. I hit another one. In Minnesota, the cotton family. Four children ages roughly two to nine were kept in homemade cages for years, often for thirteen plus hours at a time, including overnight. One toddler was locked in a plate and topped with a dog gate. Two others were in bunk beds converted into a cage with a wooden door and boards. Parents claimed it was for their safety, so the children could not access knives or chemicals. Children also had extensive bruises. Food and bathroom access were restricted at times. The parents bled guilty to child torture. Other charges dismissed under a plea, and each received four years in prison. The children were removed and received medical evaluation. Jason: All they got was four years. Bryan: Four years. Yeah, but this one. Pennsylvania, a six-year-old girl was allegedly locked in a dog crate at night, sometimes zip tied, starved for days and forced to eat dog food. She arrived at the hospital hypothermic, body temperature at 88.7, covered in sores and bruises with broken and rotted teeth and signs of long-term malnourishment. Doctor noted she could have died and would have likely died if she returned home. Mother pled guilty to numerous charges and was sentenced to 35 to 70 years. Dad faced related charges. Girl recovered and was described as doing well in the new placement. Jason: Well, they got good Bryan: What's that? Jason: they got a lot of time there. That's Bryan: Yeah. This one so you think when you hear all this about just poor people and trashy people just locking their kids up or shitting babies in toilets and shit like that, right? And then you got people like this that just break the stereotype. This is the University of Florida parents in Gainesville. A six-year-old boy and a two-year-old were locked in homemade cages for extended periods, sometimes overnight, or while parents worked. The older child was placed in a large wooden enclosure with boats. The younger was under the overturned crib. The six year old told school staff he did not want to go home because he would be put in a cage. Parents were biological scientists at the University of Florida. It was charged with aggravated child abuse and neglect. Children were removed by child services. So it's not like they were dumb people. Jason: No. Bryan: He got one more for you. Pennsylvania crib cage. A boy six and a girl five were allegedly kept confined for long hours, reports of twenty plus hours a day. One was restrained in a modified crib cage. Seems like a a little trend right there, this crib cage. Stacked cribs with locks, straps, zip ties, and wrist leash. The other was forced to sit in a car seat for extended time. Children were kept. Home for years, dental issues and other neglect were alleged. Three adults faced charges, children were removed. Sad. And what's really fucking sad is there's no shortage of this shit. that is so much of this shit that you can pull up of these kids that are just getting tortured by their own fucking family. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: It is fucked up. And what's really worse than that, there's probably people close to in your community Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: that have that are torturing kids or kids that you see on the streets that's being tortured, and you just don't know, or you don't even see the kids anymore. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Just think about the ones you don't hear about. we don't hear about these, but think about the ones that don't get reported. the kid that you went to school with, that you've seen all the time, that, just was silent. All he was probably just going through a silent ass whooping at home. he was Jason: Right. Bryan: trying to stay away from everybody because he was just embarrassed. Jason: Right. Bryan: And then put that on top of all these poor kids that are trafficked. Yeah, the the shit it's sick, dude. It's just fucking sick. We treat animals better than that. Jason: Yeah. Yeah, that's what's sad. Bryan: Really sad. Jason: People would have a come apart. Bryan: yeah. Jason: If animals were getting treated like this. But yet we just yeah, wouldn't I didn't know them kids. I didn't know them people. Bryan: That'd have been national news if that was animals being treated like that. Jason: It'd be all it'd be posted everywhere. Bryan: Yep. But since it's a kid Unless the kid is strangled by a woman with postpartum mental issues, then it it gets a lot but it's not for the kids, it's the 'cause the woman. Jason: It's for her. Bryan: No. Jason: Yeah, she was getting a lot of attention for that. Bryan: Do you think that people now that it made me think a little deeper, that people really supported that woman for postpartum mental issues or people enjoyed the spotlight they were getting for supporting them. Does it make sense? they they enjoyed joining that tribe and that little dopamine hit because they were supporting something on fringe. I'm getting that? Jason: I don't know. I just think that people are weird to the point that they support shit that's evil and disgusting. Bryan: It's quite possible. It's pretty fucked up. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: And I know I I know all this shit's fucked up, and that was my point. The whole reason I want to show this shit is to shine a light on the evil that's out there. We go about our day just oblivious to evil around us. And just the smallest little inconvenience to us is a crisis. Yet we have children living in these conditions just trying to survive another day. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Your world is crumbling around you because someone cut you off in traffic or your food yarded didn't have the right amount of cheese on it. And we have children in this great country that are just trying to survive each day. The saddest part is these kids that nowhere to turn because the people were supposed to be their safe place were the ones that's putting them in danger. And that's the part that sticks with me the most. We can argue all day about mental illness, system failures, or how could anyone do this? But at the end of the day, a child was starved, locked up, or worse. By the fucking adults who were supposed to protect them, who were supposed to love them. Period. This episode pissed you off good. Stay pissed. Shine a light on it. And if you know something, say something. Don't look away. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Before we leave, I wanted to leave on a good note. I I saw this video this week and it gave me so much hope for humanity. if you're listening, it's not gonna do much for you. I'll describe it for you. It's you know those people that paint themselves gold or silver or whatnot, and they stand in a like in a park and people take pictures of them and they try to make them smile. But it's this lady that's sitting down and she's a golden statue, and this little baby walks up to her and gives her a kiss. And it's the it's fucking adorable. Well, let's check this out. Jason: huh. Mm-hmm. Bryan: That's awesome, huh? Jason: Yeah, it is. Bryan: How do you kill that? Jason: How do you abuse that? Bryan: I yeah, I don't Fucking mind blowing to me, man. Again. I I hope it pissed you off. And I hope you look into it a little more. I hope it got you thinking. it was dark, I get that, you know, but sometimes we gotta go dark. We gotta look at some of the shit. And we look at a lot of the child trafficking and I just wanted to shed a little light on some of the abuse. You got anything, Jason? All right, thanks everyone for joining us tonight. I know it was dark, but I appreciate you spending time with us. Until next time, this is Sensus Podcast. I'm Bryan.. Jason: I'm Jason. Bryan: He's Jason. Peace.