Latest / Wildlands Podcast — National Parks, Public Lands & Survival / #006 - Zion, Part 2: The Visit | Angels Landing Permits, the Narrows & Beating the Crowds
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- 0:10Four and a half million people visited Zion last
- 0:13year. That makes it the third most visited national
- 0:15park in the country, behind Great Smoky Mountains
- 0:18and the Grand Canyon. And here is what four and
- 0:22a half million people looks like in a canyon
- 0:24that has one road in and one road out. It looks
- 0:27like a parking lot, a long shuttle line, And
- 0:30a trail so crowded, you're essentially hiking
- 0:33in a conga line through one of the most beautiful
- 0:35places on Earth. The good news is that Zion's
- 0:40crowds are almost entirely concentrated in about
- 0:43six miles of canyon. The park is 229 square miles.
- 0:48Do that math, and there's a lot of room left
- 0:51over if you know where to look. This episode
- 0:55is about how to actually visit Zion. Not how
- 0:58to survive it, how to enjoy it. The shuttle system.
- 1:02The permit lottery for Angels Landing. What to
- 1:04know before you set foot in the Narrows. And
- 1:07the parts of this park that most people drive
- 1:08straight past. This is Wildlands. I'm Sean. Know
- 1:14the land before you reach it. Let's start with
- 1:18the single most important logistical fact about
- 1:20visiting Zion. From roughly early spring through
- 1:25late fall. You cannot drive your own vehicle
- 1:27into Zion Canyon. The park shut down private
- 1:30cars on the main canyon road back in 2000. When
- 1:33it became clear the road couldn't handle the
- 1:35traffic, and honestly, banning cars was one of
- 1:38the better decisions the park service has made
- 1:40in recent decades. What replaced them is a free
- 1:43shuttle system running the length of Zion Canyon,
- 1:45stopping at every major trailhead from the visitor
- 1:48center up to the Temple of Sinawava at the far
- 1:50end. The shuttle runs every 5 to 10 minutes.
- 1:55and covers the full route in about 45 minutes
- 1:57end -to -end. There's also a separate Springdale
- 2:01shuttle that runs through the Gateway Town outside
- 2:03the park, which is useful if you're staying in
- 2:05Springdale and want to skip the parking situation
- 2:07entirely, and you do want to skip the parking
- 2:10situation. Parking at the main visitor center
- 2:13fills up early. On a summer weekend, we're talking
- 2:16full by 8 in the morning. The move is to either
- 2:20stay in Springdale and walk or shuttle to the
- 2:22park entrance. or get there at first light. If
- 2:25you arrive at 10 on a July Saturday expecting
- 2:28to find a spot, you're going to be spending your
- 2:31morning in a line of cars circling a full lot.
- 2:34Plan around the shuttle, not against it, and
- 2:37it actually works well. It's just that most people
- 2:39don't think about it until they're already in
- 2:41the car. One more thing on the shuttle. Download
- 2:44or screenshot the route before you get to the
- 2:47park. Cell service in the canyon is unreliable
- 2:50enough that your phone may not load anything
- 2:52in real time. Same goes for any permits, which
- 2:56we're about to discuss. Angels Landing. If you
- 3:03have spent any time looking at Zion before coming
- 3:06here, you know this trail. The ridge walk, the
- 3:10chains, the exposure. It deserves its reputation,
- 3:14and it deserves the planning we are going to
- 3:17give it. First, the permit. As of 2022, The National
- 3:21Park Service requires a permit to hike the final
- 3:24half -mile section of Angels Landing, the part
- 3:26above Scout Lookout where the chains are. You
- 3:29can hike all the way up to Scout Lookout without
- 3:31a permit, and Scout Lookout itself has a spectacular
- 3:34view. But to continue to the summit, you need
- 3:37a permit, and hiking without one is a federal
- 3:40violation with fines up to $5 ,000. They check.
- 3:45There are two ways to get that permit. The seasonal
- 3:48lottery opens on recreation .gov roughly four
- 3:52to six months before a given season and lets
- 3:55you apply for specific dates or a range of dates
- 3:58up to six people on one application at a $6 non
- 4:02-refundable entry fee. If you win, you pay $3
- 4:07per person. The day before lottery opens every
- 4:09day at midnight and closes at three in the afternoon.
- 4:12Mountain time, you apply for the next day's hike
- 4:15and find out that evening. Day before odds are
- 4:17better than you might expect, somewhere in the
- 4:20range of 10 -20 % depending on the season. So
- 4:24don't write off the day before if you're already
- 4:26in the park and the weather looks good. Either
- 4:29way, download your permit confirmation before
- 4:31you leave your lodging. Screenshot it. The trail
- 4:34has no reliable signal, and rangers do check
- 4:37IDs against the permit on file. Your permit is
- 4:41non -transferable and has to match the name on
- 4:43your photo ID. Don't try to share it with someone
- 4:46who isn't listed. It won't work, and it isn't
- 4:48worth the trouble. Now, the trail itself. It
- 4:53starts at the Grotto Shuttle Stop 6 and climbs
- 4:57roughly 1 ,500 feet over about 5 miles round
- 5:01trip. The lower section is a solid, well -built
- 5:04trail through forest and canyon wall. Then...
- 5:08You hit Walter's Wiggles, 21 tight switchbacks
- 5:11cut directly into the cliff face in the 1920s
- 5:14by the park's early builders. They look alarming
- 5:17from below and are not that bad once you're on
- 5:20them, just steep. At the top of the Wiggles is
- 5:22Scout Lookout, a flat saddle with a bench and
- 5:25a view that would anchor most trails. This is
- 5:28where the permit zone begins. Above Scout Lookout,
- 5:31the trail becomes a ridge walk. The chains are
- 5:34bolted into the sandstone at the steep pitches,
- 5:36and you pull yourself up hand over hand while
- 5:38trying not to think too hard about how far down
- 5:41the other side goes. The exposure is real and
- 5:44continuous, not one scary step, but a sustained
- 5:47half mile of narrow rock with significant drop
- 5:50-offs on both sides. Some people love every second
- 5:54of it. Some people get 50 feet past Scout Lookout
- 5:56and decide that's far enough. Both are valid.
- 6:00Know which type you are before you commit. The
- 6:03summit is a broad, flat -topped fin with views
- 6:06in every direction. The Great White Throne, the
- 6:10Narrows Slot cutting into the plateau, the whole
- 6:13bend of the Virgin River below. It is worth it.
- 6:16Just go with clear eyes about what getting there
- 6:18involves. Time this one for early morning. Beat
- 6:21the heat and beat the crowds on the chains both
- 6:23get worse as the day goes on. And check the weather
- 6:26before you go, because that exposed ridge is
- 6:29no place to be when an afternoon storm rolls
- 6:31through. The Narrows is a different kind of experience
- 6:35entirely, and in some ways a better one. You're
- 6:39not climbing above the canyon, you're walking
- 6:41into it. Into it. As in, you're in the river.
- 6:46The bottom -up Narrows hike starts at the Temple
- 6:49of Sinawava, shuttle stop 9, the last stop on
- 6:53the line. A paved riverside walk leads you one
- 6:56mile along the Virgin River to the point where
- 6:59the canyon walls close in and the trail ends
- 7:01and the river becomes the path. From there you
- 7:04wade. The walls rise a thousand feet on either
- 7:07side, close enough in places to nearly touch
- 7:09both walls at once, and the light comes down
- 7:12in ribbons. I have hiked in a lot of places and
- 7:14the narrows still stops me. There is nothing
- 7:17quite like standing in a river inside a stone
- 7:19slot and looking up at a strip of sky a thousand
- 7:22feet overhead. A few things to know before you
- 7:26get your feet wet. The bottom -up hike requires
- 7:29no permit you walk until you want to stop and
- 7:32you turn around. Most people go to a section
- 7:34called Wall Street, about three miles in, where
- 7:38the walls are tightest and the canyon is narrowest.
- 7:41That's a roughly nine -mile -a -day round trip,
- 7:43so plan your time accordingly. The Narrows closes
- 7:46when the Virgin River flow rate exceeds about
- 7:49150 cubic feet per second, or when the National
- 7:52Weather Service issues a flash flood warning.
- 7:55Check the park's current conditions before you
- 7:57go, not just a weather app, but the NPS flow
- 8:00rate. The canyon can flood from a storm 20 miles
- 8:04upstream under a perfectly clear sky where you're
- 8:06standing. The Field Skills episode after the
- 8:09Zion series covers exactly how flash floods form
- 8:12and what to watch for. If you're planning the
- 8:15Narrows, listen to that one first. On gear. Get
- 8:18a walking stick. The park rents them, or you
- 8:21can buy a cheap collapsible one. The river bottom
- 8:24is slippery in a way that is hard to overstate,
- 8:27and a stick will save you multiple falls over
- 8:29a long day. Water shoes or neoprene socks are
- 8:33worth it, especially in cooler months when the
- 8:35river is cold enough to cause real problems if
- 8:37you're unprepared. In summer, the water is refreshing.
- 8:41In October, it is cold and moving fast, and people
- 8:44underestimate it every year. Angels Landing and
- 8:49the Narrows get 90 % of the attention, which
- 8:52means everything else in this park is relatively
- 8:55peaceful. Let me give you the honest picture
- 8:58of the other trails. Observation Point is, by
- 9:01most measures, a better viewpoint than Angel's
- 9:04Landing. The trail is 8 miles round -trip and
- 9:09climbs about 2 ,100 feet. It's more effort than
- 9:13Angel's Landing, but it ends at a viewpoint that
- 9:17looks directly down at Angel's Landing from above,
- 9:20with the whole canyon laid out below you. No
- 9:23permit required, and on a busy weekend, you'll
- 9:26have a fraction of the company. I have been up
- 9:29Observation Point, and I have been up Angel's
- 9:32Landing, and the view from the top of Observation
- 9:34Point, looking down at Angel's Landing from above,
- 9:37with the whole canyon spread below you, is the
- 9:40one I think about more. You can see the whole
- 9:42shape of Zion Canyon from up there, in a way
- 9:45the canyon itself doesn't allow. If you are fit
- 9:48and have a full day, this trail is worth every
- 9:51step of it. Emerald Pools is where you go when
- 9:54you want scenery without suffering. A series
- 9:57of three pools with waterfalls, connected by
- 10:00trails that range from paved and easy to moderately
- 10:02steep. The lower pool is half a mile from the
- 10:05Zion Lodge, essentially flat and genuinely beautiful.
- 10:08The upper pool adds more elevation and fewer
- 10:11people. Good option for families. Good option
- 10:14for a rest day between harder hikes. The Canyon
- 10:18Overlook Trail is one I always recommend, and
- 10:21almost nobody has on their radar. It's only a
- 10:24mile round trip. with modest elevation gain,
- 10:27and it leaves from the east side of the Zion
- 10:29Mount Carmel Tunnel, the side you rarely hear
- 10:32about. The view at the end looks out over the
- 10:34canyon, and the white and orange slick rock of
- 10:37the east side. No shuttle required, just drive
- 10:41to the trailhead. The view at the end looks back
- 10:43into the canyon from a perspective most visitors
- 10:46never get. Do it in the late afternoon if you
- 10:48can, the light on those walls from the east side
- 10:50is something else entirely. And then there's
- 10:52Kolob Canyons. which is technically the same
- 10:55park, but almost nobody treats it that way. It's
- 10:58a separate entrance off Interstate 15, about
- 11:0130 miles north of the main canyon, and it offers
- 11:04five -fingered red canyon country with almost
- 11:06none of the crowds, a short, scenic drive, a
- 11:10handful of good trails, and the option to connect
- 11:13into serious backcountry. If you're there for
- 11:15two or more days, spend an afternoon in Kolob.
- 11:18It will recalibrate your sense of how crowded
- 11:20the main canyon is. Let me add two more that
- 11:25belong on the list, if you have time and the
- 11:28right preparation. The subway is a slot canyon
- 11:31in the Kolob Terrace area, a section of sculpted
- 11:34sandstone that forms a curved, tube -shaped passage
- 11:37over an emerald pool, and the name tells you
- 11:40exactly what it looks like. Photographs of it
- 11:43circulate endlessly on social media. Getting
- 11:46there requires a permit, either a seasonal lottery,
- 11:49or a day before drawing, and the bottom -up approach
- 11:52is a moderate six -and -a -half -mile day with
- 11:55creek crossings and boulder scrambling. It is
- 11:58more committing than anything in the main canyon,
- 12:00but less technical than true canyoneering, and
- 12:03the canyon itself is as photogenic as anything
- 12:06Zion has. Apply for the permit and treat it as
- 12:09a bonus if you get it. Same advice as Angels
- 12:12Landing. And then there is canyoneering, the
- 12:16technical version of canyon exploration with
- 12:18ropes, harnesses, and rappels. Zion is one of
- 12:22the premier canyoneering destinations in the
- 12:24world. Mystery Canyon, the Narrows top to bottom,
- 12:28heaps canyon. There is a whole tier of this park
- 12:31that most visitors never touch, accessed by rope
- 12:34and technical gear, and a wilderness permit.
- 12:36If that is in your skill set, Zion deserves a
- 12:39dedicated trip built around it. If it is not
- 12:42yet in your skill set, Zion is an excellent reason
- 12:45to go learn. Either way. Permits are required
- 12:48for all technical canyons in the Zion wilderness
- 12:51and are available through recreation .gov. Hire
- 12:54a guide if you are new to it. The consequences
- 12:57of an error on a rappel in a slot canyon are
- 12:59serious, and this is a craft worth learning properly.
- 13:04One thing that gets lost in all the permit and
- 13:07logistics talk, the canyon is alive in ways that
- 13:10reward the people who slow down enough to notice.
- 13:13California condors soar above the canyon walls.
- 13:17The park has been part of the condor recovery
- 13:18program for years, and they are spotted regularly
- 13:21from the Angels Landing Trail and near the tunnel
- 13:24on the east side. The first time I saw one overhead,
- 13:27I thought it was something wrong with my eyes.
- 13:30With a wingspan pushing 10 feet, a condor at
- 13:33close range reframes your sense of scale completely.
- 13:36Mule deer move through the riparian corridor
- 13:38along the river, sometimes crossing the shuttle
- 13:41road at dawn. Ring -tailed cats and spotted skunks
- 13:45live in the canyon but are nocturnal and rarely
- 13:47seen. And the bird life in the cottonwoods along
- 13:50the Virgin River is exceptional. If you have
- 13:53any interest in birding at all, the canyon sits
- 13:56at that three -province junction we covered in
- 13:58Part 1, which means species from desert, woodland,
- 14:02and forest environments all overlap here. The
- 14:06Virgin River itself is worth watching. After
- 14:09a rainstorm upstream, it runs brown and fast.
- 14:12That's the flash flood potential we keep mentioning.
- 14:14But on a calm morning, it is clear and shallow,
- 14:17and you can stand on the bank and watch trout
- 14:19holding in the current. In a desert canyon, a
- 14:23clear river full of fish is the kind of thing
- 14:25that stops you in your tracks if you let it.
- 14:29Let's talk honestly about timing, because Zion's
- 14:32popularity is not a minor inconvenience. It fundamentally
- 14:35changes the experience depending on when you
- 14:38go. Summer June through August is the busiest
- 14:40and hottest. The canyon floor sits at roughly
- 14:434 ,000 feet and bakes. Midday temperatures in
- 14:47July regularly top 100 degrees Fahrenheit. The
- 14:51shuttle lines are long, the trails are packed,
- 14:53and the narrows can close from flash flood risk.
- 14:56If summer is your only option, go early in the
- 14:59morning and be somewhere cool by noon. The park
- 15:02at 6 a .m. is a different place than the park
- 15:05at 11. Spring and fall are the sweet spots. April.
- 15:10May, September, October. More comfortable temperatures,
- 15:14better light, thinner crowds. The Narrows in
- 15:17October, with the cottonwoods turning gold along
- 15:20the river, is one of those things that makes
- 15:22you want to never leave. Spring brings wildflowers
- 15:26and the risk of high water in the river check
- 15:29conditions before hiking the Narrows in April
- 15:32or May. Winter is genuinely underrated, and I
- 15:37will say that plainly. I have been in this canyon
- 15:39in January, with a light snow on the canyon floor
- 15:42and almost nobody else around. And it is a completely
- 15:46different place. The red walls against white
- 15:49stone, ice on the hanging gardens, the river
- 15:53dark and fast. Some upper trails may require
- 15:56microspikes or traction devices, and the Narrows
- 15:59is cold enough to demand a dry suit if you're
- 16:01going in. But for photographers... For people
- 16:04who want the canyon mostly to themselves, winter
- 16:07is worth the planning. Just check what's accessible
- 16:10before you drive three hours to find out the
- 16:14upper trails are iced shut. One more honest timing
- 16:17note. Weekdays versus weekends is not a minor
- 16:20difference at Zion. A Tuesday in September is
- 16:23a genuinely different park from a Saturday in
- 16:25July. If you have any flexibility in your schedule,
- 16:28use it. Midweek visits in the shoulder seasons,
- 16:32late April, May, September, early October, are
- 16:35as close to having this canyon to yourself as
- 16:37you can realistically get. The shuttle runs faster,
- 16:40the chains on Angel's Landing have breathing
- 16:42room, and the narrows at 6 in the morning in
- 16:44October with nobody else around is one of the
- 16:46better things I have done outdoors. One thing
- 16:51this show takes seriously, and I won't skip over.
- 16:54Zion kills people from heat and dehydration.
- 16:58at a rate that should be higher profile than
- 16:59it is. This is a desert canyon. The sun reflects
- 17:03off the red sandstone walls and raises the effective
- 17:06temperature significantly. There's limited shade
- 17:09on most trails, and the hikes are longer than
- 17:12they look on a map when you factor in altitude,
- 17:14heat, and the energy drain of a river environment.
- 17:18The rule is simple. Carry more water than you
- 17:21think you need, start drinking before you feel
- 17:24thirsty, and turn around before the heat does
- 17:26it for you. A liter per hour of active hiking
- 17:29is the standard recommendation in hot conditions,
- 17:32and the canyon in summer qualifies. Salty snacks
- 17:36help your body retain that water. This is not
- 17:38paranoia. It's why the rangers at the visitor
- 17:41center hand you a piece of paper about dehydration
- 17:43when you walk in. And the river in the Narrows
- 17:47is not a substitute for carried water. It's silty
- 17:50and untreated. Bring enough to drink. A filter
- 17:54can help in a pinch, but is not a plan. Before
- 17:59we leave the canyon, a few stops that earn their
- 18:01place without any real effort. Weeping Rock is
- 18:04a short half -mile round trip from Shuttle Stop
- 18:077. The trail leads to an overhang where water
- 18:10seeps out of the sandstone in a constant drip
- 18:13rain that fell on the plateau above and has been
- 18:15working its way through porous rock for a thousand
- 18:18years or more before it emerges here. Under that
- 18:20overhang grows a hanging garden. Maidenhair ferns,
- 18:24monkeyflower, columbine, moss. that has no business
- 18:29being in a desert canyon. The contrast between
- 18:32the red baking walls and that cool green pocket
- 18:35is something I did not expect the first time
- 18:37I walked in there. It is genuinely surprising
- 18:40in a park where you think you know what's coming.
- 18:43The trail is accessible and short enough that
- 18:46there is no excuse to skip it. The Riverside
- 18:49Walk is an easy one -mile paved path from the
- 18:52Temple of Sinawava along the Virgin River. The
- 18:56same trail that leads into the Narrows at its
- 18:58far end. Even if you are not going into the river,
- 19:01walk this. The canyon walls close in overhead,
- 19:04the water is close and clear, and the hanging
- 19:07gardens line the cliffs. Accessible to most fitness
- 19:10levels, good for an early morning or a late afternoon
- 19:13when the light is coming down the canyon in long
- 19:15angles. It is not dramatic in the way Angel's
- 19:18Landing is dramatic, but it is genuinely beautiful
- 19:20and consistently underrated. Then there is the
- 19:24east side of the park, which most people experience
- 19:27only as the tunnel they drive through to get
- 19:29somewhere else. That is a mistake. The Zion -Mount
- 19:33Carmel Highway coming out the east side of the
- 19:35tunnel opens onto a completely different landscape,
- 19:38pale cream and orange slick rock, vast expanses
- 19:42of cross -bedded sandstone, a horizon that feels
- 19:45much wider than the canyon below. Checkerboard
- 19:47Mesa sits right there. A rounded dome of Navajo
- 19:50sandstone etched with a grid pattern from vertical
- 19:53joints and horizontal bedding planes, looking
- 19:55exactly like someone stretched a checkerboard
- 19:57over a hill. Worth stopping and walking up to
- 20:01it. Worth just looking at it. The Canyon Overlook
- 20:04Trail is a mile -round trip from the east side
- 20:07of the tunnel and ends at a viewpoint looking
- 20:09back into the canyon, a perspective most visitors
- 20:13never get because they entered from the south
- 20:15and never drove the other. Direction. 20 minutes
- 20:19of walking for a view that reorients everything.
- 20:24A few honest things about what not to sweat over.
- 20:27You do not need to do Angel's Landing to have
- 20:30a great trip to Zion. The permit system is real,
- 20:33the crowds on the trail are real, and Scout Lookout,
- 20:36which requires no permit, gives you a view that
- 20:39most parks would make their centerpiece. If the
- 20:42permit lottery doesn't work out, walk to Scout
- 20:44Lookout and call it a success. Don't let Angels
- 20:48Landing become the thing your entire trip hinges
- 20:50on. You do not need to do every major trail in
- 20:54one visit. People try to run from Emerald Pools
- 20:57to Angels Landing to the Narrows in a single
- 21:00day and end up exhausted, overheated, and not
- 21:03really present for any of it. Pick two things.
- 21:06Do them well. Come back for the rest. And you
- 21:09do not need to see the canyon only from the shuttle
- 21:11stops. The Parus Trail runs along the river between
- 21:14the visitor center and the start of the canyon
- 21:16and is paved, flat, and allows bikes. It's an
- 21:20easy morning walk with good bird life and canyon
- 21:22views, and practically nobody treats it as a
- 21:25destination. Same with the Watchman Trail, a
- 21:28moderate climb out of the campground area with
- 21:31some of the best views of the canyon's lower
- 21:33end. Neither of these is a hidden secret, but
- 21:36they're consistently overlooked in favor of the
- 21:38headliners. If you get into the Kolob Canyon
- 21:42section, add the Kolob Arch Trail to your list.
- 21:45It is a moderate 14 -mile round trip to one of
- 21:49the largest natural arches in the world, spanning
- 21:51somewhere around 300 feet. You will share it
- 21:54with a fraction of the people on Angel's Landing.
- 21:56And when you stand in front of something that
- 21:58size in a canyon that quiet, the scale of it
- 22:01lands differently than it does in a photo. Most
- 22:04people who visit Zion never make it to Kolob
- 22:06Arch. which tells you something about how much
- 22:08of this park stays quiet even now. And a note
- 22:13for people who brought bikes or want a slower
- 22:15pace in the canyon. The Parus Trail is the only
- 22:18trail in Zion open to bicycles, running paved
- 22:22along the Virgin River from the visitor center
- 22:24up toward the canyon entrance. On a morning before
- 22:27the shuttle lines form, it is a genuinely pleasant
- 22:30way to move through the lower park. Flat, paved,
- 22:33river views. Good bird habitat in the riparian
- 22:37corridor. Not a destination trail, but a good
- 22:40way to start a day before things get busy. So
- 22:44the shape of a good Zion visit, ride the shuttle,
- 22:47book the Angels landing lottery but don't plan
- 22:49your whole trip around it, hike the narrows on
- 22:52a low water day with the right footwear and a
- 22:54weather check, and spend at least one afternoon
- 22:57somewhere that isn't on everyone's highlight
- 22:59reel. The park is bigger and quieter than most
- 23:03people realize. You just have to want to find
- 23:06that. Next episode is Part 3, Where to Stay.
- 23:10Zion Lodge inside the canyon, the two campgrounds,
- 23:13Springdale, and how to use the surrounding BLM
- 23:16land to find the space that Zion Canyon doesn't
- 23:18always have. The Field Skills episode after the
- 23:22Zion series is Flash Floods, specifically how
- 23:25they form in slot canyons under clear skies and
- 23:27what to watch for. If the Narrows is on your
- 23:30list, that episode belongs on your list too.
- 23:33Everything for the Zion series, permit links,
- 23:35shuttle schedule, current conditions is at wildlandsnews
- 23:39.com. I'm Sean Spanauer. This has been Wildlands.
- 23:47Know the land before you reach it. See you Thursday.