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Princeton's best start and big weeks in the WCHA and ECAC Hockey · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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Speaker 1: Uscho.com Hi everyone, welcome to the podcast. I'm Todd Mulesky
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Speaker 1: here with Nicole Haase from uscho.com. Let's talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about what's happened in the last week in NCAA
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Speaker 1: women's hockey. Nicole, let's talk about Princeton. 6-0 for the
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Speaker 1: first time in program history. And this is a program
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Speaker 1: that is not limited to the last 20-25 years. This
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Speaker 1: goes back a little farther. I was looking up some
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Speaker 1: of their year-by-year histories, and they were 5-0 in their
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Speaker 1: first two seasons, I believe, which was 1979-80, 1980-81. So
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Speaker 1: before Patty Kazmaier actually played for the Tigers, they started
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Speaker 1: 5-0 but did not get that sixth win. They did
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Speaker 1: get that sixth win this last weekend after beating Brown
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Speaker 1: on Friday. They beat Yale 2-1 on Saturday. A great
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Speaker 1: start to the season for the Tigers, and now it's
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Speaker 1: the matter of, well, how far can they take this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And it's not I mean, it necessarily hasn't
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Speaker 2: been easy, but I think, you know, the Brazilians they've
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Speaker 2: shown and just coming out on top in some of
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Speaker 2: these games. Yeah, I agree. I think, you know, we
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Speaker 2: saw the beginnings of this from them last year. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I thought it was crazy last year they won their
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Speaker 2: first share of the ECAC title as well. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we've known some some great players and some great teams
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Speaker 2: coming out of there. So and and at this point,
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Speaker 2: they remain the only undefeated team.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, pretty, pretty cool start to the season and
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Speaker 3: definitely something to keep.
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Speaker 2: An eye on.
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Speaker 1: The Tigers did start 8-0-2 in 2006-2007, so there was
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Speaker 1: a stretch where they had a couple ties thrown in there,
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Speaker 1: but six wins in six games to start the season.
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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Alexander had a goal and assist in a 3-1
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Speaker 1: win over Brown on Friday, and then Riley Sorokin scored
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Speaker 1: both of the Tigers' goals in that 2-1 win on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Uma Cornea with 35 saves in that one, um, The
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Speaker 1: defense is, I mean, if they can keep that up,
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Speaker 1: that's going to take them a decent ways, I think,
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Speaker 1: in ECAC play this year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. I think they've always had, you know, a
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Speaker 2: couple of offensive powerhouses, or not always, but over the
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Speaker 2: past few years, you know, we've watched that. But adding
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Speaker 2: in that really stout defense, which isn't to say it wasn't, like,
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Speaker 2: good before or anything, but I just feel like it's
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Speaker 2: just this extra added level that they've stepped up here.
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Speaker 1: And Uma.
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Speaker 2: is a goalie that I've you know we've been watching
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Speaker 2: for a couple years and I feel like she's really
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Speaker 2: coming to her own and I think it makes there's
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Speaker 2: a confidence there and a little bit of swagger and
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Speaker 2: then also just having that that bigger defense in front
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Speaker 2: of her just makes such a difference but she's not
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Speaker 2: often asked to make 35 saves so I think it's
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Speaker 2: you know it's really telling that like they are these
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Speaker 2: aren't easy games that they're getting these wins out of
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Speaker 2: so to come out of this with that 6-0 I
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Speaker 2: think just has to I feel like right now the
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Speaker 2: net must feel absolutely huge for them and sort of
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Speaker 2: everything like it's sunshine and it's the best possible outcome.
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Speaker 2: So I think they've got to just be sort of
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Speaker 2: skating on air right now with the confidence and feeling
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Speaker 2: like all things are clicking. And again, you know, we
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Speaker 2: harp on this, but when the IDs come in late,
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Speaker 2: it just can be really difficult. that's just the nature
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Speaker 2: of what they do like they are used to it
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Speaker 2: but they are coming in a little behind the eight
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Speaker 2: ball and starting you know at zero when everyone else
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Speaker 2: is already a few steps ahead and so I think
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Speaker 2: additionally on top of what we're already talking about like
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Speaker 2: putting that in the context of of how you know
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit harder to be doing this against
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Speaker 2: teams that have kind of settled in their groove already
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Speaker 2: with an extra few weeks of play ahead of them
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Speaker 2: so yeah I think uh it's It'll be really interesting
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Speaker 2: to see. It's one of those things probably that at
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Speaker 2: some point they just want to get the loss so
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Speaker 2: we stop talking about it. But I bet they'll big
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Speaker 2: sell for a few more wins first.
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Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, they'll build up as many as
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Speaker 1: they can before they get to that point, yeah. There
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Speaker 1: was an interesting circumstance last week. Thursday's games, there were
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Speaker 1: three games on the schedule on Thursday, and all of
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Speaker 1: them ended in shutouts. We had Delaware getting their first
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Speaker 1: shutout as a program, 1-0 over Syracuse with 40 saves
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Speaker 1: from Charlotte Payne. In that one, Robert Morris beat Lindenwood
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Speaker 1: 4-0 with Maggie Hatch getting 30 saves. And then there
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Speaker 1: was a 0-0 tie between No. 11 UConn and Holy Cross.
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Speaker 1: Livia Debdorovas made 37 saves for the Crusaders. Taylor Belkits
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Speaker 1: made 14 for the Huskies, who won the shootout 2-1.
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Speaker 1: And then the Huskies won a 1-0 game the next
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Speaker 1: day on Friday with Livia DeWaar scoring the only goal
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Speaker 1: of the series without accepting the shootout goals, I guess.
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Speaker 1: with 6-16 left. So, Livia Devnerova makes 65 of 66
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Speaker 1: saves in that series and only gets a tie out
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Speaker 1: of it. That's a rough, rough result there, but a
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Speaker 1: heck of a weekend for her and just that, an
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Speaker 1: odd set of circumstances there to have a two-game series
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Speaker 1: have one goal total. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of feel like we're starting to get into, like,
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Speaker 2: weird AJ. Like, maybe last year it was weird Nuha, but, like,
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Speaker 2: Remember that Syracuse beat both Penn State and Mercyhurst, sort
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Speaker 2: of the two, you know, top two teams in the
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Speaker 2: AHA the last few years, and then turn around and
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Speaker 2: lose 1-0 to Delaware, which, like, Delaware really, or I'm sorry, yeah,
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Speaker 2: really starting to, like, get their program off the ground,
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Speaker 2: and they've got their first couple wins and things like that, but, like,
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Speaker 2: really starting... from nothing last year and so like for
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Speaker 2: them to get that win that's huge but I do
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Speaker 2: feel like we're in the anybody can win in any
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Speaker 2: given day in the AHA and that is not necessarily
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Speaker 2: something we would have said over the last few seasons
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Speaker 2: so definitely something to keep an eye on but now
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of excited like can we I usually hate
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Speaker 2: the odd time games but like hey I'll take Thursday
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Speaker 2: night AHA chaos as like a it's like Maction you
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Speaker 2: know in football like we'll take it like if that's
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Speaker 2: Thursday I'm going to get interesting AHA games I'm in.
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Speaker 1: I think we have a Thursday afternoon game this week
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Speaker 1: as well, if I remember the schedule right. But we'll
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Speaker 1: get to that in our next episode. Let's focus. Let
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Speaker 1: me reel it back to where we were talking last week. No,
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Speaker 1: that's on me. A reminder that last week and this week,
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Speaker 1: and well, and the week following, we're in world championship
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Speaker 1: mode and pre-tournament action. So a lot of teams are
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Speaker 1: missing key players. And one of those teams was Minnesota Duluth.
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Speaker 1: And you wonder how much That would have changed the
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Speaker 1: series against Minnesota last week. The Gophers got away with
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Speaker 1: a couple of 3-2 wins in overtime on Friday and
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Speaker 1: then regulation on Saturday. Ava Lindsay scored in the final
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Speaker 1: minute of overtime on Friday after Duluth came back from
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Speaker 1: a 2-0 deficit. And then on Saturday, the Bulldogs are
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Speaker 1: going for a tying goal and got called for too
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Speaker 1: many players on the ice in the final minute, kind
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Speaker 1: of ending that last hope. That's rough timing for Duluth.
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Speaker 1: They'd be missing... some really important players. But Minnesota, as
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Speaker 1: teams should do, has to take advantage of those opportunities.
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Speaker 1: They get out of there with a couple of one
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Speaker 1: goal wins.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, I always hate talking about
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Speaker 2: like sort of like more of, I just think UMD
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Speaker 2: has a lot to take away from that. Like those
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Speaker 2: were two games in their grasp, missing their, the top
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Speaker 2: goalie in the country. and one of the best scorers
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Speaker 2: in the country. Like, Kramer's still one of the best
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Speaker 2: scorers in the country with four fewer games than most
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Speaker 2: everyone else around her. So, four, six. Yeah, she hasn't
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Speaker 2: played that many games. So, you know, like, the fact
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Speaker 2: that those games were so close, we've seen what Minnesota's
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Speaker 2: capable of, we've seen them sort of go out and
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Speaker 2: push around Ohio State, and UMD kept those games completely
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Speaker 2: winnable for them until basically the final minute in both. So...
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Speaker 2: um I think you know lord knows that when you
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Speaker 2: lose two games you don't want to hear about those
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Speaker 2: sorts of things but I also think like goodness if
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Speaker 2: they're missing that many players including like sort of their
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Speaker 2: two key players and this is what they came out
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Speaker 2: with um there's a lot of of sort of hope
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Speaker 2: and and I don't know just like I think you
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Speaker 2: got to take a lot from that and build on
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Speaker 2: it and I saw um uh Bruce said like wait
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Speaker 2: they lost two games and they moved up a spot
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Speaker 2: in the poll that I know I've commented a little
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Speaker 2: bit about how difficult it has been been to vote
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Speaker 2: but it's like technically they lost and you want to
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Speaker 2: like you know you go okay someone lost we're going
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Speaker 2: to move them down but when everybody else below them
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Speaker 2: lost too and they lost to a team that's ranked
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Speaker 2: above them i mean they had a great weekend um
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Speaker 2: they didn't get the the results they wanted but they
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Speaker 2: had a great weekend and so um i do feel
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Speaker 2: like that the weekend did prove though the point that
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Speaker 2: i've been making which is that somebody else has to
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Speaker 2: score for umd they have to find somebody else that's
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Speaker 2: going to score Caitlin Kramer has, I think, four more
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Speaker 2: goals than anyone else on the team, again, with four
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Speaker 2: fewer games played. So that's that's not great. And I
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Speaker 2: just think like, you know, it's I know that's real
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Speaker 2: easy to say, but there are goal scorers on that team.
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Speaker 2: So they just they have to find that initiative. They
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Speaker 2: have to find the oomph and just really go out
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Speaker 2: there and fill in that gap while she's gone.
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Speaker 3: And then hopefully how they play kind of like.
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Speaker 2: Sort of how Wisconsin fared through the Olympics last year
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Speaker 2: with their their, you know, third and fourth line and
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Speaker 2: their younger players stepping up and that sort of boosting
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Speaker 2: them into the playoffs. I feel like that could be
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Speaker 2: a big thing if we see that from UMD.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Wisconsin, let's say in the WCHA where the
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Speaker 1: third-ranked Badgers got a road sweep of number nine St.
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Speaker 1: Cloud State, 2-1 on Friday with Charlotte Piekenhagen scoring the
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Speaker 1: game winner with 314 left about a little more than
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Speaker 1: a minute after Julian Labe started for St. Cloud State.
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Speaker 1: And then it was Nella Lupushinova's show on Saturday in
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Speaker 1: a 7-2 Wisconsin win. She figured in the six of
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Speaker 1: those goals and scored five of them, tying the Wisconsin
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Speaker 1: record set only by one player known as Hillary Knight,
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Speaker 1: a franchise icon from the Badgers. Yeah, only player in
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Speaker 1: team history that ever scored five goals, and Lupushinova became
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Speaker 1: the second rookie, uh, to score five goals in a
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Speaker 1: game in the NCAA. I assume division one history. I
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Speaker 1: don't believe the records include division three in that, uh, uh,
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Speaker 1: that calculation. So, um, Wisconsin gets, uh, a couple of
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Speaker 1: wins there on the road in this stretch where they
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Speaker 1: were off last weekend, they played, or they were off
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Speaker 1: two weekends ago, played last weekend against St. Cloud now
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Speaker 1: off again. Um, it's a weird kind of schedule as
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Speaker 1: you know, you try and build up through the first
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Speaker 1: half of the season and, you know, and they're like
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams where they're missing players. And so
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Speaker 1: they're trying to build some consistency without having consistent parts. And, um,
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Speaker 1: It's going to be really fascinating to see for not
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Speaker 1: just Wisconsin, but for all these teams, what this second
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Speaker 1: half looks like, and maybe the first part of the
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Speaker 1: second half, because you're still going to be trying to
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Speaker 1: build teams there, it feels like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is normally, this is that first weekend,
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Speaker 2: what used to be four nations, right? Tons of teams
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Speaker 2: usually take... this upcoming weekend off so um not so
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Speaker 2: unusual for teams to be out this upcoming weekend but
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Speaker 2: yeah it's uh like you said it's it and and
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Speaker 2: mark johnson often talks about sort of like this is
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Speaker 2: the time for learning and like building and all that
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Speaker 2: sort of stuff and he wants his team to peak
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Speaker 2: you know in late february early march and like this
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Speaker 2: is sort of messing with all of those building blocks
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Speaker 2: um and so um Their formula works pretty well for them.
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Speaker 2: And so the idea that they have to adapt and
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Speaker 2: they have to make changes is really interesting. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it was a tale of two games for them as well, right?
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Speaker 2: They kind of eked out that 2-1 win. It was like, oh, finally,
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Speaker 2: towards the end, they realized, hey, we can score goals
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Speaker 2: and we should win this game. And then that second
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Speaker 2: game when Nella just kind of took over. It'll be
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Speaker 2: interesting to see sort of her development, right? I feel
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Speaker 2: like she... She was doing fine. It's not like I
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Speaker 2: thought there was anything wrong with how she had transitioned
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Speaker 2: as a freshman. One of the things that I've thought
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Speaker 2: about with her is how her sort of flair and
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Speaker 2: her ability and her stick handling fits into the greater
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Speaker 2: sort of Wisconsin framework. And I don't think you recruit
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Speaker 2: her thinking that you're going to like not allow any
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Speaker 2: of that. But also Mark Johnson is who he is.
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Speaker 2: And like, I don't like I don't know that he
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Speaker 2: wants her out there trying Michigan's. constantly either. So I
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Speaker 2: think it's been really interesting to sort of watch the
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Speaker 2: progression of her, I think, finding who she is in
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Speaker 2: this position at Wisconsin on a team, you know, sort
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Speaker 2: of with greater parts. It's probably the first time she
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Speaker 2: has played on a full team that matches her, or
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Speaker 2: at least comes close to matching her ability. I'm not
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Speaker 2: sure if any people actually match. But yeah, I, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think obviously BK Selects, that's higher than it was
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Speaker 2: for her national team. But I actually... Go with me
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Speaker 2: for a second. But I spoke to John Robleski this
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Speaker 2: week before Worlds for USA Hockey Preview. But he talked
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Speaker 2: about something in terms of like, he has always talked
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Speaker 2: about one word that stuck out to me is he
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Speaker 2: uses predictability, which is to say that like he wants
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Speaker 2: the players to be able to predict each other and
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Speaker 2: anticipate things. And that for him is sort of the
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Speaker 2: framework that allows players to have the autonomy to be
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Speaker 2: themselves beyond that. So if they know where everybody's going
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Speaker 2: to be and what the plan looks like, then they
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Speaker 2: know when the openings are where they can go out
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Speaker 2: and really do the things that they do best. And
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Speaker 2: for each player, that's something different. And I really thought
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Speaker 2: about that when watching Nella on Sunday in terms of
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Speaker 2: her finding her way and being within that sort of
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Speaker 2: greater Wisconsin system, but also being the player she is
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Speaker 2: that can sort of stick handle better than anyone we've
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Speaker 2: ever seen, maybe a women's college hockey. So I just,
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Speaker 2: I know he's not her coach, but I just, those
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Speaker 2: two things kind of really came together in my brain
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Speaker 2: this weekend because I had talked in the press box
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Speaker 2: a little bit about, like, I thought it was interesting
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Speaker 2: to see what Nella would do in college and how
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Speaker 2: she would adjust and how others would adjust to her
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Speaker 2: because her unpredictability and the sort of ridiculous things she
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Speaker 2: can do with a stick don't necessarily make it easy
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Speaker 2: to be her teammate or her line mate, right?
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: I just thought it really kind of solidified for me
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Speaker 2: the idea of, like, that anticipation and being able to
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Speaker 2: know where, like, if there's a weakness or a strength,
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Speaker 2: those are the times when you do where you don't
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Speaker 2: make the decisions that you do on the ice and
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Speaker 2: sort of go out and ad lib a little. And
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Speaker 2: so I just thought it was a really interesting way
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Speaker 2: to sort of think about when you talk about players
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Speaker 2: that can sort of do extraordinary things and be the
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Speaker 2: player that can be a game changer. You know, like,
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Speaker 2: we've talked about in the past about, like, hockey Canada
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Speaker 2: structure sometimes like I think stifling like Marie-Philippe Poulin right
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Speaker 2: like sometimes you gotta just let the best player in
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Speaker 2: the world go out and be the best player in
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Speaker 2: the world and so yeah I just thought it was
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Speaker 2: I wanted to share because it really sort of helped
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Speaker 2: solidify for me or just really think about it and
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Speaker 2: approach it in an interesting way and think about how
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Speaker 2: the sort of back background work that you do day
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Speaker 2: to day is what sets up a player being able
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Speaker 2: to be themselves and it really show off what they're
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Speaker 2: capable of in certain moments of the.
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Speaker 1: Game Yeah, it is going to be fascinating to see
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Speaker 1: her progression from freshman year to senior year to fifth year,
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Speaker 1: whatever that ends up looking like and just how she
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Speaker 1: fits within the framework of that team and her line
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Speaker 1: and how, you know, whether it all just kind of
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Speaker 1: feels like there's a point that she can just go
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Speaker 1: and be herself and do everything that she wants to do,
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Speaker 1: if that's now or if that's a couple of years
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Speaker 1: from now. Uh, whenever we see it, it's going to
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Speaker 1: be pretty special to watch. It feels like just judging
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Speaker 1: from the glimpses we've had of her freshman year, but
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Speaker 1: also in the past.
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Speaker 2: 14 to 18.
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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Agreed. And I think just the maturity of it going
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Speaker 2: from like playground style to, to being able to carry
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Speaker 2: those skills into a different and more, you know, yes. So.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, I thought it was interesting and I
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Speaker 2: thought it might help other people sort of think about.
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Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, to an extent, it's like
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Speaker 2: watching the progression of KK, right? For how she used,
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Speaker 2: she learned when she could and should sort of go
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Speaker 2: ahead and be more offensive and when she could be
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Speaker 2: on defense. And we know so much of that is
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Speaker 2: because she's so fast and so good on defense, she
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Speaker 2: could recover if she went forward. And that was part
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Speaker 2: of it. But I do think there are some parallels
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Speaker 2: there in terms of like, how KK was as a
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Speaker 2: freshman versus how she was as a senior.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's finish up with a couple of results from
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Speaker 1: out East last week. The, uh, ECAC had a couple of,
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Speaker 1: I guess, surprises in some ways, if you want to
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Speaker 1: look at them that way, uh, union getting a win
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Speaker 1: over number 12, Cornell five, four and overtime on Friday.
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Speaker 1: It was, uh, uh, I believe Carrie Ann Engelbert figured
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Speaker 1: into all five goals, right? She scored three of them
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Speaker 1: and assisted on two of them, uh, including the Maddie
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Speaker 1: Leaney goal in final second of overtime to, uh, uh
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Speaker 1: give the garnet chargers that win um and which is
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Speaker 1: you know again we're talking about a team that's been
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Speaker 1: playing for a little while against a team that's kind
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Speaker 1: of still getting its feet wet here in in the
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Speaker 1: season and i you wonder how much that plays into things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah i also i look i'm double checking myself but
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Speaker 2: i'm pretty sure union beat cornell last year as well
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Speaker 2: and i'm pretty sure maddie leaney is the one that
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Speaker 2: scored the overtime game winner um So I think, you know,
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Speaker 2: there's a lot to be said for both the being
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Speaker 2: further in your progression and having the confidence and ability
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Speaker 2: to know that you're capable of doing that.
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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So Union won 4-3 in overtime last year around Thanksgiving. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: just interesting that that now seems to be a bit
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Speaker 2: of a bugaboo. Something about how those two teams match
17:46
Speaker 2: up is really, really interesting. And I think now Union
17:49
Speaker 2: needs to take whatever they're doing there and sort of–
17:53
Speaker 2: spread it out and and find that confidence and swagger
17:56
Speaker 2: and and maybe try and some of that against because
17:58
Speaker 2: I think you know similarly to like Cornell's defense to
18:02
Speaker 2: like Clarkson and some of the other the Quinnipiac so
18:04
Speaker 2: I'd love to see them try some of that stuff
18:06
Speaker 2: in some of the other games but um yeah I
18:08
Speaker 2: think Cornell's got to probably get that out of their
18:12
Speaker 2: head and and and uh not think about it again
18:15
Speaker 2: until before next year but probably think about it more
18:17
Speaker 2: maybe get a good next season because that's interesting um
18:20
Speaker 2: to see that they're doing that twice. And again, that
18:23
Speaker 2: Union's doing it in overtime. They kept coming back, which
18:26
Speaker 2: I think is, they had an answer every time. They
18:29
Speaker 2: used the rush really well as well, which I think
18:32
Speaker 2: Cornell is pretty great on defense when they're settled, but
18:35
Speaker 2: I feel like got exposed a little bit. And a
18:37
Speaker 2: lot of Cornell's scoring is coming from their defense. And
18:39
Speaker 2: so I'm interested now, I will be paying a little
18:42
Speaker 2: more attention to sort of some of that transition and
18:44
Speaker 2: what happens when those players are or more involved in
18:47
Speaker 2: the offense if a fast-breaking team can really make them
18:51
Speaker 2: pay for that. So something to look out for when
18:54
Speaker 2: people play against Cornell, because I think that that's a
18:57
Speaker 2: little bit of what happened there with Union. They really
19:01
Speaker 2: were able to expose some of that.
19:03
Speaker 1: We'd mentioned Yale earlier in the context of Princeton, but
19:06
Speaker 1: on Friday the Bulldogs got a 3-1 win over No.
19:10
Speaker 1: 5 Quinnipiac. Emily and Grennan made 40 saves, took a
19:14
Speaker 1: shutout into the final minute before the Bobcats got on
19:17
Speaker 1: the board. So that's a, you know, a good split
19:22
Speaker 1: of a weekend for Yale. I mean, you're going to,
19:25
Speaker 1: you know, go against the number five and number six
19:28
Speaker 1: teams and you come out with a split. I think
19:30
Speaker 1: a lot of people are probably happy with that.
19:34
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
19:34
Speaker 2: Especially with them bringing to 14, right? Like I think
19:36
Speaker 2: we talked about a bunch of teams in the ECAC
19:38
Speaker 2: and Yale really wasn't one of them. And they're very
19:41
Speaker 2: much showing that they should have been kind of a
19:44
Speaker 2: little bit of a sleeper team. But that's how they
19:46
Speaker 2: were a couple years ago when they made it to
19:47
Speaker 2: the Frozen Four as well. I think they do a
19:49
Speaker 2: good job. of sort of being low-key and kind of
19:54
Speaker 2: surprising people. So I thought it was interesting. I thought
19:58
Speaker 2: QDPX struggled a little bit in that game in a
20:00
Speaker 2: way that we haven't seen a ton of before. I
20:02
Speaker 2: think they were back on their heels, and I'm not
20:03
Speaker 2: sure they necessarily knew what to do with it. So
20:06
Speaker 2: I think probably a good lesson for them. But yeah,
20:09
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. You know, we always talk
20:11
Speaker 2: about the bounce back, and I think that's going to
20:13
Speaker 2: be pretty important for Quinnipiac in the coming weeks. Not
20:18
Speaker 2: that it was a bad loss or anything, but I
20:19
Speaker 2: just think they need to learn those lessons of what
20:23
Speaker 2: that resilience looks like and what it means to take
20:26
Speaker 2: it on the chin, learn from it, and keep going. Yep.
20:30
Speaker 1: Yale moved up from 14th to 11th in this week's USCAShow.com rankings.
20:36
Speaker 1: Princeton moved into the top five at five, bumping Quinnipiac
20:39
Speaker 1: down to sixth, Clarkson up to ninth, moving St. Claude
20:42
Speaker 1: State to tenth. And so you can check out all
20:44
Speaker 1: of those rankings on uscho.com. A couple more results. BC
20:51
Speaker 1: bounced back from a Monday, I believe, afternoon or morning
20:54
Speaker 1: loss last week to Minnesota State at home with a
20:59
Speaker 1: pair of wins over Vermont, 2-1 Friday, 3-1 on Saturday.
21:02
Speaker 1: So the Eagles... get back on the winning ways. They're
21:08
Speaker 1: 6-3 this season and haven't necessarily had the most steady
21:14
Speaker 1: of climbs this season, early this season, where it's been
21:17
Speaker 1: a couple good results and then you slip back a
21:20
Speaker 1: little bit. You think if they can get something moving
21:25
Speaker 1: in a positive direction, sustain a couple weekends in a row,
21:28
Speaker 1: that's going to be important for BC to generate the
21:33
Speaker 1: confidence and keep reinforcing it so that the second half
21:39
Speaker 1: maybe is a little bit more of an easy goal
21:41
Speaker 1: for them.
21:44
Speaker 2: I think it's really important. Like a, it's bounced back
21:47
Speaker 2: from getting that maybe surprising loss to Minnesota state who,
21:50
Speaker 2: you know, was in town for the icebreaker. And I
21:51
Speaker 2: think just scheduled an additional game as long as they
21:54
Speaker 2: were in Boston. I think, you know, first thing in
21:56
Speaker 2: the morning, odd time, all that sort of stuff. Like
21:59
Speaker 2: there's probably plenty of reasons, but I think it's really
22:01
Speaker 2: important like for Boston college, who doesn't necessarily always sort
22:05
Speaker 2: of respond after a loss to come back and have
22:07
Speaker 2: gotten those two wins and two close wins. Like those
22:09
Speaker 2: were tight, tough games. Like I was impressed with Vermont
22:13
Speaker 2: sort of being in it all the whole time. I think,
22:15
Speaker 2: you know, that their team we've talked about is a
22:17
Speaker 2: little bit of a sleeper in hockey East. And obviously
22:19
Speaker 2: they took the losses here, but the margins were real close.
22:23
Speaker 2: And I think it's good for BC to have come
22:26
Speaker 2: out with wins in those close games, to have responded
22:29
Speaker 2: to the loss and hold on and, and, get those
22:32
Speaker 2: really close narrow wins. So, um, right now I'm, you know, tentatively,
22:37
Speaker 2: I think it's, it's a really good sign for BZ.
22:39
Speaker 2: And like you said, if you sort of get through
22:41
Speaker 2: those struggles now, it just tends to make the hill
22:44
Speaker 2: not so steep, uh, as we head towards February.
22:47
Speaker 1: Last one I want to mention here is, uh, a
22:50
Speaker 1: new high result that just kind of caught me by surprise.
22:53
Speaker 1: Looking at the scoreboard last week, Stonehill seven, St. Anselm seven, um,
22:59
Speaker 1: You go to overtime after a 7-7 game and no
23:01
Speaker 1: one can score? I mean, that's the thing that shocks
23:04
Speaker 1: me out of that is that you score 14 goals
23:06
Speaker 1: and then the five minutes you get nothing. But an
23:11
Speaker 1: interesting stat line there. St. Ansel won a shootout 2-1
23:15
Speaker 1: after that one. Check out the box score on this
23:18
Speaker 1: one on uscho.com, folks. There were a lot of people
23:23
Speaker 1: involved in that one in the scoring, and the defense
23:27
Speaker 1: may not have looked... all that good on the tape
23:32
Speaker 1: for the coaches involved in that game.
23:37
Speaker 2: The Stonehill goalie only made 28 saves. I have questions.
23:43
Speaker 2: Not only. I would have expected a higher shot total
23:46
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say. Emma, that's Nicole Schoon.
23:49
Speaker 2: Emma Brewer for St. Anselm had 45. But yeah, I
23:54
Speaker 2: was looking. I was like, oh, that must have been
23:55
Speaker 2: a ton of saves. And it ended up being 28.
23:57
Speaker 2: And now I am okay. But yeah, see, Anson's goalie
24:00
Speaker 2: had nine saves in the overtime and five in the overtime.
24:04
Speaker 2: That's the same number of saves she had in the
24:06
Speaker 2: third period. Yeah, this is an amazing box score. It's
24:10
Speaker 2: worth going to look at. Yeah, listen, Duha's never boring.
24:17
Speaker 2: That's what you got to say about it.
24:19
Speaker 1: And that's, honestly, that is, I think that's kind of
24:23
Speaker 1: cool that you're getting, even though, you know, If you
24:26
Speaker 1: like defense or goaltending, you're not going to love a
24:29
Speaker 1: 7-7 game. There's some entertainment factor in that because it
24:32
Speaker 1: was not just like– it was going back and forth.
24:34
Speaker 1: It was like one team going ahead, one team catching up,
24:37
Speaker 1: and then going ahead and then flipping the other way. So, yeah,
24:42
Speaker 1: that's a– it had to be an– Interesting game to
24:49
Speaker 1: be playing in as I'll cover for Nicole sneezing there
24:53
Speaker 1: for a minute, but yeah, an interesting game. No problem
24:56
Speaker 1: to be involved in trying and staying in the moment
24:59
Speaker 1: there of all those swings in that game. Yeah.
25:04
Speaker 2: And I just, again, shout out St. Anselm who is
25:06
Speaker 2: doing this with a roster that like basically came together
25:10
Speaker 2: at the last minute this summer. It's a ton of
25:12
Speaker 2: transfers in and others. Again, this is a T a
25:15
Speaker 2: program that's going to move down to D three and Um,
25:18
Speaker 2: and so, you know, we've talked about sort of a
25:20
Speaker 2: couple of the blowouts and the saves their goalies have
25:22
Speaker 2: to make, but like, that is, I like, I'm just
25:25
Speaker 2: so impressed with those players who are going out and
25:28
Speaker 2: putting it all out there. Um, and either, you know,
25:31
Speaker 2: getting absolutely pummeled in some of these games and, and
25:34
Speaker 2: doing this sort of without thanks, right? Like there's, there's
25:38
Speaker 2: not a lot in it for them this year. They're,
25:40
Speaker 2: they're suffering for, for their sport. And so I think
25:43
Speaker 2: that out, that impresses me about this outcome even more.
25:47
Speaker 2: that they just kept going back at Stonehill and pulled
25:50
Speaker 2: out a 7-7 tie, obviously.
25:53
Speaker 1: As we all expected, yeah. Anything else you want to
25:57
Speaker 1: touch on before we say goodbye for a couple of days?
26:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, one more thing. When you brought up all the
26:04
Speaker 2: history with Princeton, it reminded me that Saturday's game for
26:09
Speaker 2: Cornell recognized their 1975-76 team, which won the program's first
26:13
Speaker 2: Ivy League championship 50 years ago. I think, you know,
26:17
Speaker 2: we talk so much about NCAA era D1 hockey and
26:21
Speaker 2: D1 hockey did not begin in 1999, 2000. So I
26:26
Speaker 2: just like 50 years there, there's a couple of groups,
26:29
Speaker 2: particularly the Ivies that have been playing women's college hockey
26:33
Speaker 2: for a long time. And so the idea that there
26:36
Speaker 2: was a 50th anniversary and there were women that got
26:38
Speaker 2: to come to that game and be honored for Cornell's
26:40
Speaker 2: first Ivy league championship is really cool. makes me sad
26:43
Speaker 2: that I didn't know about it until afterwards. Just really, like,
26:46
Speaker 2: there's such important history that people should go look up
26:50
Speaker 2: and find. And then as an addendum to that, some
26:53
Speaker 2: kids at Brown did a podcast. It's called Pandas on
26:56
Speaker 2: Ice because the original, the women's college at Brown was
27:00
Speaker 2: known as Pembroke, so they were the Pembroke Pandas. And
27:03
Speaker 2: it's a podcast out of BDH Studios, which is off
27:06
Speaker 2: of Brown's campus, called Pandas on Ice, that has... uh,
27:11
Speaker 2: some history talks to some former players, looks at how
27:13
Speaker 2: they became a powerhouse and their legacy. Um, there's, it's
27:16
Speaker 2: two short episodes. It's under an hour total. Um, but
27:19
Speaker 2: I just would suggest going to find that if, if
27:21
Speaker 2: the history of women's college hockey is of interest to you.
27:24
Speaker 1: And it's awesome. And a huge shout out for them to,
27:27
Speaker 1: for putting that together. It sounds really cool. And we
27:30
Speaker 1: always love to hear the history. And when you were
27:32
Speaker 1: mentioning Cornell and that, uh, um, the 50th anniversary team,
27:37
Speaker 1: it reminded me that a couple of years ago at
27:39
Speaker 1: the Frozen Four, I feel like some of those players,
27:41
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were from that season or
27:42
Speaker 1: from more recent seasons, but it definitely been, been a while.
27:47
Speaker 1: A lot of those players were there in Minneapolis. I
27:50
Speaker 1: think that was Minneapolis, right? That Frozen Four. And I
27:55
Speaker 1: remember seeing some of them around the arena at, at,
27:59
Speaker 1: at their game. And I thought that was pretty cool
28:02
Speaker 1: that you bring that history along and make sure the,
28:05
Speaker 1: the players are understanding that they're continuing on something that
28:08
Speaker 1: goes a long time back now.
28:12
Speaker 2: I don't remember off the top of my head which
28:14
Speaker 2: program it was, but there was also one in the
28:15
Speaker 2: last year or two that has a couple of the.
28:17
Speaker 3: Older women coming and visiting them in the locker room
28:20
Speaker 3: and following them.
28:21
Speaker 2: On some of the trips and things.
28:22
Speaker 3: And just what amazing opportunity that is.
28:25
Speaker 2: And I hope we continue to see more of that.
28:28
Speaker 2: I hope the programs are doing enough to.
28:33
Speaker 2: Sort of carry on those legacies and make sure those
28:34
Speaker 2: stories are recorded. It definitely middle of the hockey season
28:38
Speaker 2: is not a great time to have this idea, but
28:40
Speaker 2: it does make me want to go digging more and
28:42
Speaker 2: do some more work on some of that because we
28:45
Speaker 2: wouldn't be here without those players. And they did it
28:47
Speaker 2: in some really tough conditions when people didn't let them
28:50
Speaker 2: on the ice. So I just think it's really cool.
28:53
Speaker 2: And I love hearing those stories. So if people hear more,
28:56
Speaker 2: we definitely want to know about them. Let us know. Um,
28:58
Speaker 2: but shout out 50 years is, is pretty spectacular and outstanding. Um,
29:02
Speaker 2: hard to, to kind of fathom really when we were
29:05
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, 25 ish years of, of NCAA
29:09
Speaker 2: D one hockey. So, um, yeah, just, I think it's
29:12
Speaker 2: really cool. And I hope people take the time to
29:14
Speaker 2: go learn more about some of these programs and some
29:15
Speaker 2: of those women.
29:16
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. All right. That's going to wrap it up
29:19
Speaker 1: for this episode of the pod. Yeah. As we thank
29:21
Speaker 1: you for joining us for this one for Nicole, I'm Todd.
29:24
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you later this week.