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145 Are Cryptids Living Closer Than We Think? The Truth About the Michigan Dogman · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one paw, massive paw, on my front windshield and
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  Speaker 1: one paw right above my mirror on the driver's side
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down.
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  Speaker 1: The weight of it just pushed down and the paw
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  Speaker 1: that was on my front windshield, my windshield started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it and
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, The, it's like the,
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  Speaker 2: the ground underneath me just kind of opened up and
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't blinking. Like there was a complete, like just
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  Speaker 4: like blankness to his face.
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  Speaker 3: Like there was just, there was nothing there. I grabbed
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  Speaker 3: my 44 out of my truck.
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  Speaker 4: I jumped out the truck and that's when I knew
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  Speaker 4: it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was the storm man. There would be a real
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  Speaker 3: low guttural ground. One more step and he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be in clear view. And he takes that one more step.
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  Speaker 4: And he just, it was like he just stepped behind
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  Speaker 4: an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen. This is
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  Speaker 3: episode 145 with Mr. Scott Brush from Urban Bigfoot. He
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  Speaker 3: has a Facebook page. He's looking to make a YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 3: He has a lot of videos over there, really interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 3: He outlined one of his as well, but the first
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  Speaker 3: time he ran into this strange being or creature that
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  Speaker 3: we all come to know and love and fear and
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  Speaker 3: the shocking... aspects of this thing when he was on
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  Speaker 3: vacation for a weekend one time with his wife uh
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  Speaker 3: out in the bush there of michigan he also starts
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  Speaker 3: to tell me or told me better said about the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of michigan dogman that's a very interesting encounter there's
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  Speaker 3: a song involved and then people started stepping forward it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of a war of the worlds you know like
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  Speaker 3: orson sewell's is that his name guys yeah orson sewell
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  Speaker 3: i think so um when that happened and people started
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  Speaker 3: coming forth and saying yeah i've seen this thing too
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  Speaker 3: the show. If you want to reach out to me,
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  Speaker 3: please do me a favor. You can do so at
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  Speaker 3: the iJupiterPodcast at gmail.com. Go over to Scott Brush's Urban
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  Speaker 3: Bigfoot over on Facebook and reach out to him. Check
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  Speaker 3: him out. He's also every week with... Cryptid Wranglers on
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  Speaker 3: Friday with Bruce Brown and all those fellas over there.
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  Speaker 3: So I hope you enjoy this episode with Mr. Scott Brush.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man.
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  Speaker 4: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: So it's founder of Urban Bigfoot. It's just Urban Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 3: Did I get close?
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  Speaker 4: You had it three tries. You got it on the third.
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  Speaker 4: So we're good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, hey, hey, hey. They get you in the majors. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: it does.
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  Speaker 4: It does.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man. So where are you coming to us from today, Scott?
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  Speaker 4: Monroe, Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Monroe, Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're about 15, 20 miles from the Toledo border. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. So you're between Detroit and Toledo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in the Metro Detroit, Southeast Michigan area.
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  Speaker 3: All right, cool, man. So it's getting nice and cold
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  Speaker 3: out there, huh?
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  Speaker 4: Actually, today it's strangely warm. It was probably like 72 today,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm not mad at all about that. For a while,
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  Speaker 4: it was like 95, 100. Like out in Cali right now,
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  Speaker 4: they're still getting 120, 105. You know, I'm glad it's fall.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't like winter, but the other seasons.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. Cruising down here in Mexico right now
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  Speaker 3: at 88 degrees. It's always like that, though.
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  Speaker 4: Is it dry or humid?
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  Speaker 3: It's right now. We just had the hurricane blow through, man. Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. I mean, it's the hurricane part blowing through, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't really hit us, but we got some
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  Speaker 3: of the arms, and I couldn't go back to sleep.
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  Speaker 3: I got up at like 6 o'clock because the thunder
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  Speaker 3: was just so intense. It shook the whole house. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oof. Anyhow, Scott, please do us a favor.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about yourself and where we
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  Speaker 3: can find you.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, Tom did not butcher it too bad, but you
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  Speaker 4: can see my Urban Bigfoot Facebook page. It's pretty great.
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  Speaker 4: It's a safe space. I don't put up with BS.
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  Speaker 4: I don't give people chances. I got great moderators. And
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  Speaker 4: it's a place to come on and talk about your experiences,
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  Speaker 4: especially the ones who don't expect it. It's different when
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  Speaker 4: you're going on a hike in the woods and you
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  Speaker 4: never gave a second thought to there being a Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 4: And then one crosses your path and then your life
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  Speaker 4: changes forever. But if you approach it like a researcher,
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  Speaker 4: you're hoping for that, right? So that's like finding gold
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  Speaker 4: when you're a treasure hunter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: So you can share your evidence, your theories. We go deep, man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm big into giants. The book of Enoch right now
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  Speaker 4: was something I'm deep into the book of giants.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So you're also. All ties to that.
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  Speaker 3: So. You also co-host the show with Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: The Cryptid Wrangler podcast on Friday nights.
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  Speaker 3: Mr. Luttrell. Mr. Luttrell there. And Daniel, of course. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So go ahead and check that, guys. Is that a
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  Speaker 3: live podcast every Friday?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yep, every Friday night at 8 Eastern, and then
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  Speaker 4: whatever your time zone is from there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do the same thing, man. When you
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  Speaker 3: told me Eastern, I was like, I got it. It's
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  Speaker 3: two hours difference for me. You got it, yeah. Cool, man.
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  Speaker 3: So tell us a little bit about how you got
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  Speaker 3: into this, what happened, or what it was, or what
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  Speaker 3: you thought about this before it started.
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  Speaker 4: My journey started when I was six years old, right?
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  Speaker 4: It's one of those things where most people, if you
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  Speaker 4: go for a hike and you find Bigfoot, you're like,
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  Speaker 4: what the heck was that? Your eye to eye was
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  Speaker 4: something that shouldn't exist or something you were told your
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  Speaker 4: whole life isn't real. And now you're like, well, then
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  Speaker 4: what the hell am I looking at? If this isn't
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  Speaker 4: supposed to.
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  Speaker 3: Be real, right? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: But when I was six years old at that time,
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  Speaker 4: it was like 92, 93. I think it was, I
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  Speaker 4: was in the library. And at that time, Calvin and
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  Speaker 4: Hobbes Garfield, the member of the magic eye bookstore, you
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  Speaker 4: had to find stuff, all that stuff. Those were great.
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  Speaker 4: That's what was in at that time. Calvin and Hobbes.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't care about any of that. I'm like, Something
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  Speaker 4: drew me to the left, and that was the paranormal section.
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  Speaker 4: That's where Betty and Barney Hill books were, you know,
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  Speaker 4: pretty much anything weird. And the first Bigfoot book I
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  Speaker 4: ever checked out, I still remember the orange tape on
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  Speaker 4: the spine, the old library issue spine covers. It was
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  Speaker 4: called On the Track of Bigfoot by Marion T. Place.
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  Speaker 4: And every time I would go to check it out again,
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  Speaker 4: I would check the library card. I was the last kid.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody else was checking it out. So every time, like
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  Speaker 4: the two weeks, somebody's going to recheck this out.
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  Speaker 3: Is that back in the Dewey Decimal System time when
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  Speaker 3: you have to pull out that file cabinet and flip it.
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  Speaker 4: Through the shelf? We got our records over here. You
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  Speaker 4: paid fines if you didn't have the book back either.
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  Speaker 4: It was a great book. That was right around the
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  Speaker 4: golden era of Sasquatch. Peter Green, little after Peter Green
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  Speaker 4: and all those guys, Rene DeHinden, all the old school
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  Speaker 4: pioneers of it, all those dudes. I was compelled. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: this isn't hard for me to accept there's something else
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  Speaker 4: out there. It's narrow-minded to believe we have all these
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  Speaker 4: woods and now urban environments where these things just thrive
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  Speaker 4: and you don't even really realize it unless you see one,
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  Speaker 4: know what you're looking for, actually go looking for it yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay. So you just had a general interest in me.
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  Speaker 3: I always found myself like Barnes & Noble in the
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  Speaker 3: occult section. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect.
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  Speaker 3: You know, just over there like, oh, what's tarot? What's that?
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  Speaker 4: What's the Necronomicon? Let's check this out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then, you know, all the Christians standing at the
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  Speaker 3: door just giving you the eyeball. Like, no, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Do your thing. Do your thing. I want to know
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  Speaker 3: what that is over there. I understand completely.
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  Speaker 4: It's the magnetic pole. You get drawn into this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't really. It pulls you in like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: you want a rabbit hole? Here you go. you know,
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  Speaker 4: and then the rabbit hole goes deep. And then 30
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  Speaker 4: years later, you know, I'm doing a lot of it
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  Speaker 4: out in the field, been on a lot of podcasts
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  Speaker 4: and meeting awesome guys like you, you know, that we
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  Speaker 4: can all share the same open-mindedness about the subject.
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  Speaker 3: So, so where did it go from there? So you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're just always interested in it.
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  Speaker 4: Always interested. Like I said, I checked that book out
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  Speaker 4: before I even knew what some of the words were.
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  Speaker 4: Like I couldn't even sound all the words out yet
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  Speaker 4: in that book. And I was always kind of discouraged
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  Speaker 4: because the librarian would be like, that's too advanced for
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  Speaker 4: you or, Or you shouldn't be over there. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: nothing says I can't check this out. And ever since,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you have to defy a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to go down the rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. As soon as you tell somebody they can't do something,
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  Speaker 3: then that's when they're going to do it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: especially on that guy. Oh, really? You're going to tell me. Okay, sure.
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  Speaker 4: Challenge accepted, you know? And then after that, it's just,
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  Speaker 4: I started to just really get into the idea of
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  Speaker 4: primitive people. And what if Bigfoot was just a feral person?
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  Speaker 4: What if feral people were Bigfoot? For a while, I
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  Speaker 4: developed a theory that Kane was, in fact, Bigfoot. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that sort of thing. I went down that
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  Speaker 4: rabbit hole for a while. And then I really went
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  Speaker 4: down the post-flood Bigfoot creation. I kind of buy into
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  Speaker 4: Melba Ketchum's idea a little bit about the DNA. But
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people believe that Bigfoot is just like Gigantopithecus.
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  Speaker 4: I think Bigfoot, I believe you got the Watchers came
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  Speaker 4: down in the Book of Enoch before the flood. God
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  Speaker 4: said no, wiped, you know, chained him up, wiped out
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  Speaker 4: the giants. Post-flood, I believe, was when Lucifer got kicked
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  Speaker 4: out of heaven with one-third of the angels. And at
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  Speaker 4: that time, Genesis 6-4, when it said there were giants
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  Speaker 4: on those days and also afterward, afterward means after the flood.
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  Speaker 4: That means second incursion. So I think Lucifer and the
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  Speaker 4: angels slept with humans again and the animals. And I
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  Speaker 4: think Bigfoot is an offshoot of that. Wow. Bigfoot, he
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  Speaker 4: exists outside creation, something that's more of a, well, God
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  Speaker 4: made this, but watch me alter it. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think sirens came from Enoch. They didn't get wiped
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  Speaker 4: out during the flood because they were water-based animals. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't two of every five. on the ark for
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  Speaker 4: a reason in my honest opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah uh yeah or ducks because they can float but
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  Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 4: That's great so we're not supposed to have ducks in
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  Speaker 4: theory yeah right yeah like ducks cryptids that's the question.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they have those weird, you know, how would you
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  Speaker 3: say it? The PC version of it. They have those
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  Speaker 3: weird parts with different passageways and corkscrews and stuff. So
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  Speaker 3: there's something weird about them, too.
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  Speaker 4: It is. Like a platypus. That was a cryptid? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it produces its own eggs and everything. Like, it's its
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  Speaker 4: own dairy factory. Like, how does stuff like this exist?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy. So a lot of this comes from a
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  Speaker 3: Bible perspective, so I imagine you understand.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I have more of a non-denominational Protestant style belief.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't, I believe that even though people consider
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  Speaker 4: like Enoch and Jubilees of all of that to be
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  Speaker 4: controversial and non-canonical, just because it's not in there doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean it didn't happen. That means a church didn't want
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  Speaker 4: it in there. You know, they didn't want us having
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  Speaker 4: that knowledge because, Oh, you mean to tell me a
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  Speaker 4: fallen angel taught humans how to commit war and make
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  Speaker 4: swords and stuff on earth. Or this, this angel taught
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  Speaker 4: women about makeup, like all of that stuff, you know?
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  Speaker 4: And then the book of giants comes around. And it
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  Speaker 4: even says in there, they took 200 of every animal
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  Speaker 4: on the earth at that time for miscegenation. What were
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  Speaker 4: the fallen angels going to do with these animals? Make
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  Speaker 4: hybrids out of them. And that's what we have to
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  Speaker 4: this day. I mean, if you really think about it,
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  Speaker 4: obviously there'd be human DNA. So there's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a breeding population. So I think you got the really
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  Speaker 4: strong ancient ones, like the amazing Bruce Brown talks about,
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  Speaker 4: which have like the Nephilim DNA and like the shamanic powers.
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  Speaker 4: And then as the bloodline goes, what happens? You start
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  Speaker 4: to lose the ability because it gets diluted.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. All right. So you would have to be
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  Speaker 3: my first one to actually talked about it through this angle.
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  Speaker 3: So for me, you're going to be awesome, man. I'm here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm open for it. Just here to talk to me
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  Speaker 3: about it. I mean, I, I, I don't really have a,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a say in any of it because I
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  Speaker 3: haven't experienced it myself, but I try to keep an
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  Speaker 3: open mind because, you know, I'm trying to see through
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  Speaker 3: the eyes of the beholder, uh, more or less, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: And when people come around and say, oh, it's not real,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, well, you know, you've probably had experiences that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've seen three rainbows at one time. You're like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I didn't see it, so therefore it doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 3: It just doesn't really cut the mustard for me, so
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  Speaker 3: to speak.
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  Speaker 4: There's always more than just what's on the surface, always. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you have the gigantopithecus theory and the
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  Speaker 4: land bridge theory, and I'm not saying they're wrong. I
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  Speaker 4: believe there's five types of Bigfoot, and I think that
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  Speaker 4: some of them might just be our ancestors. I share
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  Speaker 4: the belief that Patty from the Patterson Gimlin film is
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  Speaker 4: just more of an ancient human with special powers. Now,
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  Speaker 4: when you get into like the Gugway and the more
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  Speaker 4: red eyed ones and the more ones that are kind
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  Speaker 4: of hunting people down, that's when you're getting more in
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  Speaker 4: the ones that I think are more Nephilim that are
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  Speaker 4: more evil. Like, you know what I mean? Like the
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  Speaker 4: more hybrids.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Enlighten me. What is it? Guthway? I believe you said.
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  Speaker 4: Gugway. G-U-G-W-E. It translates to face eater is what Gugway
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  Speaker 4: translates to.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, tell me about this.
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  Speaker 4: A Gugway, honestly, in my opinion, a lot of dogman sightings,
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  Speaker 4: I think, are Gugway. But if nobody knows what a
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  Speaker 4: Gugway is, because the face is very canine. It's got
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  Speaker 4: canine eyes and ears, but it has a baboon-like snout.
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  Speaker 4: So it's got, yes. If you look up the Beast
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  Speaker 4: of Seven Shoots in 1993 up in Ontario, Canada, there's
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  Speaker 4: a good photo of one holding like a pig or
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  Speaker 4: somebody's dog or something under its arm. I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 4: probably seen the photo over the years and just didn't know,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And that's the only known photo we have
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  Speaker 4: of a Gugway.
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  Speaker 3: Can't say I have, man. You can just go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and send that to me. I mean, I can look
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  Speaker 3: that up. Gugway? Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And Bruce, too. Bruce believes Gugway is Kane.
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  Speaker 3: You can look that up and find that picture? G-U-G? Yep. W-E.
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  Speaker 3: How do you spell it again?
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  Speaker 4: G-U-G-W-E.
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  Speaker 3: G-E-W-E. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Gugway. Alright, here we go, guys. I'm going to grab
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  Speaker 3: it all myself. I mean, Let's see. We'll go to images. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of like a baboon. All right. Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know this picture of it. Which picture am I
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  Speaker 3: looking for?
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  Speaker 4: The Beast of Seven Shoots.
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  Speaker 3: Share screen. Share audio. There you go. Gugway, The Beast
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  Speaker 3: of Seven Shoots. Should I go ahead and type that
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  Speaker 3: in here?
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that'll work. And it'll probably be one of the
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  Speaker 4: first things. It's a decent photo. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Is it O-O-T-S or S-H-U-T-S?
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  Speaker 4: That one right there, that very top one in the
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  Speaker 4: green with the green background. It says Gugwe underneath.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, right there. This one.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that's the one. That is the only known photo
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: that I've seen that's.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Of the Gugwe.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: If you zoom in, look at the snout. And these
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: are the ones that hunt humans. These actively go after
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: human beings.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: All right. I always sneak it down here in an
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: article somewhere and then you can't find it.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: I think we froze up there for a second.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. A little, a little funkiness coming on there. Yeah.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: It's sometimes it's just, you know, it's, you know, when
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: you talk about these things, but then you have someone
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: who's as good at the technology as I am, you know,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: things tend to happen. So where's that picture taken?
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: That I believe that was up in Ontario, Canada or
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: somewhere in the Canadian area. I think people were out hiking,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I believe. And they noticed that on camera and it looked,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: somebody accused, I think a campsite or something of it
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: being their dog. It has like a small dog type appearance,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: but it also looks like it could be a pig.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: But it makes more sense to be a dog if
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: they're at a national park or something. It's fascinating. Those
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: are the ones that are very aggressive, very territorial, but
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: they're uncommon. You don't come across them very often. They're
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: kind of like the outcasts. They don't really belong to
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: a clan. They're wanderers, just like Cain of the Bible.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: That's why Bruce's theory is pretty good on that, I think.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: It's a completely separate... Gugway and Bigfoot, Bruce thinks, aren't
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: the same thing. And I really don't even think about it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: You've had a lot more. I've spoken with Bruce on
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: multiple occasions, maybe three times, but we never gotten into
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: what he's thought about them. I just kind of went
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: through like what he's experienced, you know, because he'd be
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: in a, a former highway police officer or excuse me,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I would just say a law enforcement officer. He was
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: bound by like law to not, you know, for sure things.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: So when, once he retired and boom, then he actually just, yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: This was the first show he was ever on was
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: on my show. I was like, so that's weird. You
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Right. Yep.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Bruce has stories where you're like.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Have you wrote all this down? Why is this not
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: a New York bestseller yet? This is the, you have
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: some of the most, excuse me. Bruce is one of
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: the most authentic people out there. And research, as far
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: as research goes, there's no better. You know, he, he
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: throws his law enforcement skills into the mix. He sees
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of patterns. Bruce is an awesome dude.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's uncanny in his humbleness. Yeah. When you're talking
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: to him, he's got this really deep– he should actually
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: do some audio books. We'll talk him into it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Sure. That's a good idea. You can read the Bible
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: to us. I'd listen. James Earl Jones did it. He's
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: got that voice. Bruce is like, all right, if we
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: can go get lunch, we're going to be sitting here
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: for six hours.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And you don't even have to say a word. Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: You get, you ask him one question. He's like, all right,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: I got a whole storybook here for you. The things
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I've been through, let's talk about it. You know, it's,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: you can just flip through a chapter. He's probably experienced it. Yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Most of them. I'm just sitting there with my mouth open. Exactly.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: So have you had any experiences with these things? Yes.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: In 2023, me and my fiance decided to go on
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: like an off grid camping trip because we live right
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: in downtown Monroe. cars going by ambulances, you know, fire trucks,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: all that kind of crap, which you get used to it,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: but sometimes you get burned out on it. And I'm like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to find something far off the grid, you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: like no phone service type stuff. So I went on
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Airbnb and we found a little, basically it was like
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: a year that somebody put on a deck that they
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: built on their property. And it's like a mile hike
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: into the woods. And this is on a farmer's property
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: in a town of like 800 people. This is like
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: 30 miles West of Hocking Hills and, I think so.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe West.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: It's Athens, Ohio. And we went out there. We actually
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: drove past the driveway like six times because we're expecting
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: the name to be the road. This was the name
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: of the driveway. So I'm like, all right, we asked
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: for off-grid. We're off-grid. And most, you know, it was
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: just like, while I'm out here, why not see if
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: there's anything squatchy down here? So, you know, because Ohio
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: was such a hotbed for sightings anyway. I didn't really
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: think I'd have anything happen. This was one of the
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: things where it's like, all right, you wanted this your
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: whole life. Here you go. And this is before I
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: knew a whole lot about wood knocking. So we're sitting
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: around the fire and I just grab a piece of
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: cordwood and there's like a big ridge line. Cause this
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: is basically like the Ohio foothills. So there's a lot
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: of old like mounds and all that stuff out there.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of like this big circular dome, just
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: like a hundred feet all around the cabin. So it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a pretty open area, but there's a bunch of woods
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: that really hug you. And I just take the piece
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of cordwood and I knock on the tree a couple
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: of times and not 10 seconds later, the same pattern
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: comes back to me. Knock, knock, like in a very,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: very similar response. There's no way you can mimic the decibel,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: the tone. And the problem with wood knocking is you
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: don't know what they're saying. And if you say the
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: wrong thing, which is what I think really happened that night,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: like I don't think I don't necessarily think I was
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: in danger after talking to Bruce about it the other day.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: And to me, it was cool, but terrifying. And what
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: happened was we were sitting around the fire, heard the
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: knocks after hitting the tree, and it started to get
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: really dark. And the tree canopy is so thick, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: it's just draping over to where even if there is
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a little sun down where we were sitting, there wasn't any.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: We started to hear stuff surround us. I'm thinking it's
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: probably just deer, but I don't know what's in the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: woods out here. Who really knows what's in the woods?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: We just went inside. After we went inside, I didn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: think much of it. It was really hot, so we
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: couldn't really sleep. We just had a little portable fan
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: with us because it was really hot that night. It
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: was July 16th or something like that. We just couldn't sleep.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, we managed to pass out for
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: a little while. I hear what sounds like something picking
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: up a branch with like the leaves on it is
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: dragging it along the side of the cabin or even nails. Just,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you know, letting me, letting us know that we weren't
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: alone out there. And I'm like, okay, maybe raccoons were
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: on the roof. Reasonable. As a researcher, you have to
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: figure out what it's not first. Not everything can be
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: a Bigfoot, you know, but being in the middle of nowhere.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: And it's like, we had to, we're not leaving the
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: cabin because it's pitch dark outside by that time. And
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: it was like 12, one in the morning when I
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: heard the scratching and There's no way we're leaving. We're,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: we're riding this out because we don't, I don't know
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: what's out there, you know? So we're sitting there and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: after that, we're like, let's just go to sleep. Sooner
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: we go to sleep, sooner morning is going to come.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: This had to have been three ish.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I checked my phone when I woke up, not that
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: there was any damn service on it, but I could,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: you know, at least use the alarm clock and it
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: was three and something plows right into the side of
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the cabin. I'm talking Kool-Aid guy running into the wall style.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And it didn't go through.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Thank God.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I think this was more of a statement like, all right,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: whatever you said, I don't know what I said, but
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: clearly it offended something. And it's just plowed into the
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: side of the cabin and probably shifted the year, like
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: three inches, just push it. And I'm like, okay, that's
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: not a deer. A bear is not going to do that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: The likelihood of a bear being in that very area,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: probably not that high unless one was passing through. But
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: by the time we went inside, you know, what's the
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: likelihood of it being a bear without crunching through the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: woods and us knowing, you know, and then the parents
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: are not going to charge the cabin for no reason.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: We didn't have any food outside or anything like that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, we really just got to try
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: to sleep again, but we're terrified at that point. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I'm also intrigued because I'm like, I've read stories of this.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I've watched encounters of this, of people having their buildings
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: charged into their trucks, ran into dogmen, scratching the fenders
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: and that sort of thing. So I'm like, I believe
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: at this time I'm having my first actual encounter with
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: a Sasquatch. because what would be out there with that
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: kind of power? You know, it's almost like something straight
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: football shoved into the side of the building and just
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: shifted it. You could see the next day where like
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: the pattern from all the dirt and stuff was, if
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: it's sitting there, it was moved literally to the left.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: It had rained on and off all night long, just
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: like a light drizzle. And then after that, we went
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: back to sleep and I passed out and my fiance
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: woke up and something was walking towards the window. She
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: could hear it on two feet. Didn't see anything. But
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: when you walk inside, like the cabin straight back was
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the bed. And there was like another step or two
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: to get up in there. And the little window there
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: was eight or nine feet off the ground.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Easy.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: And I was, I was passed out and she said
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: something was walking up to the window, two feet heavy.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Then when she shook me, I kind of caught the
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: tail end of it. And I was like, what the
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: hell was that? And we heard nothing. Like it just
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: walked off into a portal, which again, We'll probably get
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: into that at some point tonight, I'm sure, my viewpoint
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Why do you think it walked off into a portal, Scott?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, when you see all the tracks just stop.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: You could follow 50 or 60 tracks, even a whole trail,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: and suddenly they just stop. And there's no breakage to
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: indicate they stepped off into the brush. If a left
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: foot stepped off a trail to the left, there'd be
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: reason to believe the sticks and stuff would probably break
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: inward because of the pressure. There was nothing. It was
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: just like, somebody said, you know what? I'm just done
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: airlifting me out of here. Or they just unzipped a
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: little portal into the next dimension and just walked in.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what else could it possibly be? And
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: the first time we found our tracks here in an
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: urban area, there was about three or four different specimens.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: The video was actually on urban Bigfoot and some of
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: the tracks. This was at the end of, this was
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the end of February, early March. Michigan was unusually warm
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: in 2024. At that time. And I'm like, dude, we
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: got to get out in these woods when it's nice.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: The squatch are moving. It's springtime. You know, they're preparing
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: for the seasons and stuff just like we are. Nobody
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: else was out there because it was flooded. There was
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: a good seven, eight inches of water around. And then
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: when you get up a little bit on, there's like ditches.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: So it drains in. And I noticed this massive footprint,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: this footprint, probably at least a size 14 next to
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: my boot in the photo, but the heel, the arch
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: and the toes were all the exact same width. There
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: was a mid tarsal break. So it was completely flat
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: footed and approximately one and a half to two inches
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: depth in the mud. And the stride is probably four
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: or five feet apart. And then up above that, there's
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: a smaller print, which is obviously either a juvenile or
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: a female with more pronounced roundness of the toes. Like
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: it almost like just a perfect step. But again, the
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: width was the same. Human feet tend to be more
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: narrow with the heel on the arch and kind of,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: you know, go up a little bit wider when it's
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: a completely flat, When you don't have the ability to
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: have the arch, they just stomp. So you're pretty much,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: you have to completely raise the calf up 90 degrees
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: parallel to the ground because they don't have the ability.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: So they're just stomping. So I'm like, there's no way
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: these are human. Could they have been?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: But what human is out there hiking at eight inches
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: of water after a February thaw?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Right. Plus there's no arch.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: No arch. And the three or four different size prints.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: It was almost like a family or a clan or
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: something was walking out there. What's the likelihood that a
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: family of three or four just decided to go for
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: a stroll all barefoot down that trail? And then suddenly
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the tracks disappear off into the woods.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And you can see this on your Facebook page
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: or do you also have a YouTube channel?
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: We're working on the YouTube channel. I've had a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: of demands, we'll say, lately and requests for it. So
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: we're working on that. YouTube seems to be where it's at.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's part of where it's at. It's all there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Get yourself out there, buddy. So why urban Bigfoot? When
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you say in the urban environment, what do you mean
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: by that?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I'm talking 3 a.m. There's a Bigfoot breaking into a
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: dumpster behind a Burger King type urban environments. That kind
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: of urban. Now, here in Monroe, we have a lot
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: of farmland. The War of 1812 took place here, so
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of plots of land. You can still
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: find a lot of the old property lines and even
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: old bottles here. from the Prohibition era. Even back then,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: you can still find around here in the territory. So
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of layered phenomena here. The bloodiest battle
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: of that war took place here. It was the Battle
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: of the River Raisin. The reason why the River Raisin
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: got its name was because a river was dyed blood
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: red from all of the bodies draining into it. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you have all that trauma there.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: War of 1812?
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: War of 1812, the bloodiest battle.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Baltimore, man. I'm from Baltimore. What do you think?
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Star Spangled Banner, Francis Scott.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude. Yeah, man, we kicked their butt twice, buddy.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Sorry about that, all my English compatriots out there. No,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I worry about you. You're American like me. I was
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: just talking to all the, you know, sorry, mate.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Ah, those guys.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those guys. So it's kind of like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of like this, you know, these little
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: places where you can still see these foundations, like, you know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: kind of off the beaten path a little bit. Exactly.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: There's old forest heads out there. It's still urban, but like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: for example, Monroe is in the middle. It's all city.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: You have two basically main roads where your Walmart, you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Meijer and, you know, your food, all of your fast
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: food and restaurants and stuff are. But in the smaller
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: towns surrounding it, because it's like the third or fourth
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: biggest county in the state of Michigan. But in all that,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: you've got a lot of families and old farm and
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: homesteads and property and lots of acreage. We have lots
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: of swamps, Lake Erie is right here. And you have
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of just swampy, boggy areas. So there's still
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: plenty of territory for a bipedal hominid to thrive. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: these things are masters of camouflage. They move incredibly fast
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: and it's really easy to hide. And most people don't
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: believe you exist. And with how much property we have
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: out here, really, and all the, all the water, the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: food supply, all that stuff, there's no reason you can't
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: hunt in this park where my research site is. It's
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: just a public park. You have the soccer fields, you
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: have the, All of the baseball diamond, it's right next
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: to an airport. And then there's like five or six
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: miles of hiking trails. But they're maintained by the county.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: But they also are connected to adjacent properties. And the
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: further west you go, the more rural and farm territory
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: it becomes. And it all parallels west to the River
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Raisin as well. So we have the water source. So
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: we have the fish. The back of the park is
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: loaded with deer, rabbit, coyote, all that kind of stuff
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: is back there. And not to mention, we have the
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: massive eight foot wide, nine foot tall culverts for all
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: the drainage pipes around here. And I believe they use
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: those to travel unnoticed. So that's how they're that's how
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: they're traveling without using a portal, in my honest opinion.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: How else are they going to cross this airport? I
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: believe they, they shack up in the tree line across
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: the airport. And I believe at night they cross the
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: runway and come into the woods, but it stands, it
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: stands for reason. There's probably, I would say camera monitoring
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: on that runway. So how else are they not going
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: to be spotted unless they're cloaking or they're using the
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: culverts and culverts is a more plausible theory in a
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: sentence to in my honest opinion.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I can't think of her name right now, but I've Barbara,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: that's her name, Barbara Shoup. I've actually spoken to the
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: woman who had the video of the one that cloaked
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: when it came out of the tree, it looked like
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: predator and it just kind of like.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Absolutely insane.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Insane. And she was telling me too, that she was
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: walking down her path there. And then like, she seen like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I think it was elk or deer or whatever. My
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: black tail. I don't know what it was. Came across
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the thing and she seen him chasing it. And as
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: soon as they got to the path, it just disappeared
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: like that. And then one, and you can see it
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: kind of like just go down. And so, So are
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: you getting reports from your area? Is that what you're,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: is that why.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: You're- I had my own experience. I had my own
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: experience there because I moved here in 2011, late 2011,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: early 2012, and I've hiked back there for years. But
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: that's before I believed that Bigfoot would ever consider even
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: having an urban presence. The idea of even having a
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: breeding population or at least a traveling population being in
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: an urban environment was like, no, these things got to
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: be in the Colorado Rockies or deep in Canada. I
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: bought into the, why would they want to be around us?
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: You know, because we're the most destructive species on the
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: fricking planet. Why would they want to be anywhere near
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: us within 50 feet? You know, you have to go
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: establish relationship with them. They have to, they have to
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: trust you. And the more you spend time, the more
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: your relationship builds. Okay.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Wow. And so when you mean by dumpsters, have you
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: heard like a specific situation in which this happened? Yes.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Here's my thing. Most people are going to be like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: wait a minute. What the hell is he talking about?
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: you would encounter, you'd be more likely to encounter a
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot in an urban environment than you ever would deep.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: In the woods.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: And here's why. Food is more plentiful. There's no need
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: to hunt. There's 300 burgers getting thrown out at McDonald's
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: every single night, and it's nothing for the things to
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: walk over, snap the lock, and reach inside and eat
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: whatever it needs, and then head back off into wherever
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: it's staying. Who's going to know?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: We're going to have Bigfoot out there with diabetes and Exactly.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: And that's the problem. They grow dependent on that stuff.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: And that's why I don't believe in gifting plentiful amounts
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: of food because they start to rely on it. So
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: when I give, it's more of a, like a treat
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: that I'll take out there. Things like that, where it's like,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to bring you fricking platters of steak
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: and everything like that. There's a lot of horror stories
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: of Bigfoot following people home when they don't, when they
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: stop gifting and feeding them all of a sudden. I mean,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: that would be a real experiment to be honest, you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: try to piss off a Bigfoot and if it came home,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: you'd have proof. I hope you know what I mean.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'd want, I don't want to be
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: part of any time soon.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: You want to protect these things. Once you have an experience,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: it's like, I want proof for me and I want
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: the right people to know, but the whole world doesn't
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: deserve to know because you know what I mean? Exactly.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Could they handle it or would they respect it? Because
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: all the people that are like, let's just shoot one.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: You know how many times somebody has had one in
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: their line of sights and couldn't do it, do it
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: because it looks so human.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got to be unnerving, man. Could you imagine that?
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: You're sitting there. You get up there early in the morning.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: You climb up the tree. You know, you done spotted out.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: You got your scent trail out. You got whatever it
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: is that you're doing. And then you see something come
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: through the bush just like Daryl Denton. And it's walked up.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Smelled the rag. Looked at him. Oof. And then you
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: put it in your crosshairs and all of a sudden
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: you're like, I can't. There's like this, I guess an
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: uncanny connection that it's hard to describe. But you're also
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: completely freaked out by it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: For sure but you're also like wait a minute the
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: part of my brain that's curious about this stuff is
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: going off like there's no tomorrow but the fear of
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the unknown too and think about it what if you
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: shoot it and all it does is piss it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Off i don't even know i don't want to i
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: don't want to make my dad mad why.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Would i even shoot a nine foot six hundred pound
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: being you know what i mean i'm gonna do an
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: elephant gun for that to begin with you know i
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: mean from what i understand they're killable if the need
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: came or the government like they'd be the greedy bastards
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: they are going on massacres you know for things like
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that if you watch our recent show of the cryptid
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: wrangler week mk davis is on with bruce analyzing the
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: original pg film and that's okay that patty proof is
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: on there patty there's tranquilizers and everything in this photo.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Wow all right we're gonna go check that one out
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: because i think i've had davis on too and he
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: was like amazing i think And Kate Davis hooked me
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: up with the, I think it's Shot 352 or Frame 352.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the most famous one.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: One where you can see the braid in the hair.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was the shaman.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: That bugged me to no end because, you know, I'm like, yeah, dude.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: For me, it's enough for hundreds and, at this point,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: thousands of people who have stepped forward, especially, you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: with this medium that we have nowadays.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Photobomb cat.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a cat too that's a pain in
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: the butt. I call her her name is Mr. Anderson
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: because we didn't know it was a we didn't know
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: it was a her so.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: We just call her Anderson from the Matrix Mr.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Anderson yes exactly that's why it's funny it's why it's
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: funny so I do it all the time would you
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: like some food Mr.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Anderson it's just that calm monologue just their voice never
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: raises or lowers.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: A decibel she's meowing and I go to my girlfriend
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: and say do you hear that do you hear what
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: that is there dear that's the sound of inevitability that's
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: great yeah uh yeah so he hooked me up with
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: that and then it was a video that you can
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: find if you go on the reddit and you look
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: at the for me that's where i find it anyway
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: where you can see when it looks back and it
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: steps with his right foot you can see the leg
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: muscles wiggle from the calf up into the thigh you
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: can even see a hernia in the thigh yeah and
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: this and this is what uh 50 over 50 51
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: years ago when this happened yeah and we're still talking
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: about it today it's it's it's It's.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: The most iconic footage, and once you learn the truth,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: it completely changes your perception. Because everybody wants to say
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Roger Patterson and Bob Giblin just ran up on the
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: river one day doing some footage, and a paddy happened
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: to be running across. When you watch the real video,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: you're like, wait a minute, there's like 14 more minutes
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: of footage that the original public never got released, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: there's a shit ton of people there. Like, check it out, man.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Check it out. It was basically, I will say this,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: it was a government-assigned... massacre from different groups different countries
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: were involved because the logging industry was being affected by
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: patty and the clans that were out there there's seven
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: dead bigfoot in some of this footage.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I've heard this before mk.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Davis is the one that first bought into and created
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: the bluff creek mass bluff creek massacre theory and now
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: that him and bruce have gone over gone over it
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: and went through it still by still in frame by
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: frame it backs up what mk always said it was
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: patty patty was tranquilized Sent to Russia. And to this day,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: from what I, yep, Matt Moneymaker, no, I'm sorry, Cliff
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Berrickman was speaking about that. Yeah, so Patty's apparently alive
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: and well in Russia. But I'm like, what the hell
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: is Russia doing with Patty? Are we making some sort
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: of Yeti hybrids? I mean, Patty was a shaman, unless
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: if they wanted to explore her abilities. But why Russia?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: You know, it was a Springfield 1903 sniper rifle is
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: what was used. And you can see it in the
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: video to take out a lot of these Bigfoots.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, where can one look at this video for themselves?
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: It's all over. You can find it on YouTube right
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: under our program. And I think, yeah, it's all on there.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: You can check it out on the Cryptid Wrangler. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: think we got like 1,500 views on that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: No shit.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty cool.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Congrats, buddy.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, yeah, now we're talking. Because that's the
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: patty truth, you know? Everybody thought MK was like crazy.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: What would the U.S. government with other parties, we'll say,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: want to be involved in? and taken out a bunch
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: of Bigfoot that aren't hurting anybody in Bluff Creek, California.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Because they're in the middle of the logging industry. It's
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: all money. It's always money. So there's Bigfoot skins. There's
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot skull. All this stuff can be found. And a
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: lot of the frames, I haven't seen all of it myself,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: but all the stuff that I've seen is on our episode.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Because I remember, oh, man,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to have, I think there's an
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: episode coming up with Ron Moorhead, Daryl Denton, and Bruce,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: and N.K., That's.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: On the 16th or something like that?
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I can't exactly remember. It's probably going to be out after,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: but go back and check that out, guys. Go check
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: it out. It's over there. If you type in Daryl
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Denton or Ron Moorhead, if you don't know who those
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: are and you're over here watching, then yeah, we'll get
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: you up.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Take it on down the road.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just kidding. Ron Moorhead is the Sierra Sounds.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: He's the guy who recorded Sierra Sounds back, which is incredible.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You've probably heard those before. Daryl Denton, I think he
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: calls himself.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: The Tennessee Bigfoot, man. Daryl's a legend, man.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I knew him before people gave him that moniker.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Daryl's such a good dude, too.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I loved fucking Daryl Denton. He was the first gentleman. Well,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: there was others, but he was the first one to
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, I'll come on the show. And then
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: he started talking. And I was like, oh, shit, I
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: done stepped in. It was like that. You know, you
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: have that fringe area that you're on. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: You know, the Patterson Gimli, you know, this and that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: And then Daryl stepped forward. He talked about what happened
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: on his granddad's property, what I was telling you about. Yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: We were just talking about it. I was like, oh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: this is, this is a different thing. Yeah. It's been,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: it's been one of those, you know, going down. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: don't necessarily have to go down Bigfoot. It doesn't, you know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: it's not the only thing. It's just the one that's
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: just out there, man. And what do you think, what
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: is the, I had on a gentleman from Bigfoot 911. 911, Mr.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Lance Hightower. And yeah, I didn't know, I had no
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: idea who he was, man. You know, I was just like, hey,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: want to come on the show? And he's got a
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: huge channel, go check it out. And he was like, yeah, man,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: there's an agency out there that doesn't have three letters
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: on it that will come and shut your ass down.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: And they'll come and, you know, this guy lost her job.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: They lost his wife. They threatened him, in not so
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: many words. And it's quite compelling stuff. And what do
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: you think is the reason why this is being, you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: kind of hidden from us? Why?
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Personally, I mean, every major government in the world, whether
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: they admit it or not, wants to weaponize everything, right?
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, look at Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar was reverse
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: engineering UFO aircraft at, you know, Area S-1 from like, what,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: 18 or 19? Yeah, Groom Lake from 1989 to like 1992.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: And I think like 15 miles south of that or
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: something was really where all the stuff that he really
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: went through went down. He describes in detail everything, you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: from having their own gravity systems, their own self-propulsion systems.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: There's no way this dude lied about this, but they
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: completely discredited him, you know, ruined his credit. And they,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: they actually got rid of his background as if he
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: never worked, as if he never worked there. The only
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: reason they were able to buy, to believe him, I
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: think was George Knapp. Maybe they looked him up like
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: in an old phone book as a former employee of that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Right. That's what he was on Rogan and had to
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: pull it up.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's, I was like, I mean, I've always believed
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: in UFOs and aliens. I have my own perspective of
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: what I believe they are, but it's always been fascinating.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: But Bigfoot's always been my cup of tea. I've done
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: research on the subject for nearly 30 years. I'm at
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: a point where I really go dive deep into the
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: biblical aspect of it now. A lot of people say, well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: how was Bigfoot created if everything got killed in the flood?
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: There was also an incursion after the flood as well,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: like I said earlier. So we would have a breeding
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: population of Bigfoot anywhere from 11 to 15,000 years ago,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I would say Bigfoot was created right around the beginning
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: of the Ice Age, end of the Pleocistine era. So
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: they were full-on hunter-gatherers. They weren't primitive humans.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I love how people pronounce things different.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I believe it's Pleostocene is the correct.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Pleistocene is what I call it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Pleistocene? We know what it is, though, right?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I do.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: All of us 14 researchers know exactly what it is.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: When I say words, I see them in my head, too. Yeah, exactly.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: It's so funny when people just pronounce things differently. Like
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I hear people say mature. I'm like, what the hell
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: is that? It's mature. Right?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Right? Right?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: It's like everybody has an accent to a degree, whether
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: we realize it or not.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: And if you're around somebody long enough, you're going to
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: start talking like the way they are. It's just the
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: way we're programmed.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: How did you get Bruce to come on the show, man?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Let's just say Daniel. Daniel, we're hooking you up, buddy.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Daniel J. Williams.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And I always call him Mr. Latrelle. What is his name?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Larry. Larry Latrelle.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Larry Latrelle. Mr. Larry Latrelle. You. I didn't know who
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: you are. That's why you're here today. I was looking
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to find out who you are. And of course, how
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: did you get Bruce freaking Brown to come on that show, dude? Oh, dude.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Bruce was on the show before I became part of it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: So I don't know the entire story, but they're such
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: good dudes. They're family. You know, we're going to be
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: filming a documentary on the LBL here pretty soon. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Bruce is going to be there and everything. So it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: going to be pretty cool.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Ooh. Yeah, right? I was going to ask you. So
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: what's coming up? You're going to start a channel? What's
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: coming up for Bigfoot Urban?
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Right now, we need subscribers for that page. I'm going
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: to speak about my brothers and the rest of the
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: community before I talk about me. That's just how I roll.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: We need 500 because YouTube's starting their BS, man. By
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the January 1st, I think it is. If you don't
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: have 500 February 1st, that could shut your channel down.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Like all these... So we're at like 350 something right now.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I think we need 500 to keep the show. I mean,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: we talk about a lot of deep stuff. I was
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: a guest on there four or five times, you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: just going on there to BS and, you know, talk
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: theory and stuff with them. And Dan wanted a more
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: advanced kind of panel rather than just your traditional one-on-one interview,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: because it's such a broad subject and all of us
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: bring a different aspect to the research table. So meshing
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: us together along with the guests, everybody can kind of
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: gab and share theories and help each other out. And
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: he's like, Hey, you want to be part of it?
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, absolutely.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Okay. Damn. That's good. Yeah. That's a, that's a good thing.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: So it's every Friday. That's right. That's right. I was like, Oh,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: cause I was on there before Bruce came on. Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: So I can't want to talk. I was like, we
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: got Bruce. Fair enough. Shout out to all those guys
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: over there, man. So what's next for you for the,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: you know, we talked about your guys. Now, what about you?
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: What are you going to be doing? Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I will have my own podcast here pretty soon and
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: it's going to be through them. It's going to be
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: like my own podcast, but still part of the Wrangler family.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to go really deep into the biblical aspects.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not just going to stay on Bigfoot. It's all good.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: I believe Bigfoot, you know, vampires, Loch Ness, all that
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: stuff is part of the same tree, just different branches.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: So it all parallels and goes back into itself, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: we have to explore it all to understand all of it.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Like how, how would vampires exist? How would mermaids exist?
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: When you go back into these ancient, ancient texts, it's
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: literally most of it is all right frickin' there. And
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: you're like, wait a minute. It says right here in
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Enoch that women are going to become sirens for what
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: they did by laying with the fallen angels. Sirens, mermaids, boom.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Sightings for hundreds of years. Still to this day, clearly
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: there's a breeding population of these things.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: That's interesting. So what do you know about them? Let's
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: go into the sirens. I mean, I'm down, man.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know a whole lot about sirens to be
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: dead honest, but I do know that they are allegedly
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: like the cursed offshoot. Excuse me. They're basically the curse
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: offshoot of the women who laid with the watchers during
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: And you can find them. One of the, I guess
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: would say more modern, uh, writings of those, the Homer
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Homer's Iliad, right? Yes.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: They tell you the Iliad talks about that a little
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: bit too.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, uh, that's interesting. Cause you know, women can
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: do that to a man, you know, for sure. Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, guys, You know, they just look at you
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and it's like, they don't.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Even have to sing.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Imagine you're on a boat full of guys
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: who smell like fish, you know, and all of a
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: sudden there's a pretty woman out there, you know, singing
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: your favorite song from Alice in Chains.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I love Alice in Chains.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Even the Jerry Cantrell era. I, Jerry Cantrell era. What's that?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: What era was that? Oh, is that like 95 when
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: they came up with the.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. After, after Lane passed away, I think.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Jerry Cantrell era.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Jerry Cantrell would be like.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I know who he is.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: My song, if you look up my song, it'll tell
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: you what album it is. That was my favorite Jerry
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Cantrell song.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I know that he had his own side project. I
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: know that. Anger rising... I want to.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Say they did at least one album with him. Maybe
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: it was recent. Maybe it was more like a tribute
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: recently it could have happened, but Alice in Chains, man,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: the only truly 100% pure grunge band.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: The best singer of all of them. He's my favorite singer, always. Dude,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just starting to discover Mad Season. I'm like, what
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: is this? Wake Up? That song, Wake Up? In the morning,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: before I start my classes, I'm throwing Wake Up in
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: my ears.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I love that. It gets you pumped up for the day.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, so he knew that he was going,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: but he still sung about it. It's really dark, but
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: it's also very beautiful in a way, too. There's something
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: about it that's that That's why AI will never take over.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: That thing about us that makes us great is, well,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: what makes us awful is what we do, is our imperfections.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: But what makes us also awesome is our imperfections.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: For sure. And speaking of songs like that, I'm sorry.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Speaking of the songs that do that to you, what
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: is it? Jeff Tate from Queensryche, Silent Lucidity. There's something
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: about that song that makes you kind of travel through
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: that time. Like, I feel like I lived in the
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: 60s at one point. Like, how can you miss an
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: era that you never grew up in?
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: It's, you know, it's kind of like, how can you
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: be nostalgic for a time you didn't exist, but you
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: feel connected to it? I mean, if you believe in
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: reincarnation and all that kind of stuff, that might be
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: part of it. Maybe when we were feeling that way
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: was a different time that we existed. Maybe in another life,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: we carry fragments of it with us. And we see
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: those maybe memories are actually times. We actually lived, you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: in another life.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: There's telomeres, that's for sure. So these remnants are connected
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: to our DNA. Well, that might have something to do
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: with it as well. What I found to be weird
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: is like, okay, so I was born in 1980, right?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: So I'm probably a little older than you, a little
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: gray calling out here.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, 85 for me.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. Close. Close. You're a Gen X. I'm a
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Gen X right at the very end of Gen X, right?
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: And the millennials. I'm at the tail end.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I'm at the tail end. I used to listen to
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: stuff from the.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: 50s, man. Yeah. So the weird thing is about it,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: the older you get, the more you look back to
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: when you were a kid, you're like, wait a minute.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: So 1985, that's, what is that? 14 years after Hendrix passed?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: That's nothing. Yeah.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy? But now you look back on it,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: you're like, when did Hendrix pass?
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Holy crap.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: You know? Time is not long until it's long, if
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: that makes sense.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Who knew that 1990 would be freaking 35 years ago?
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: It seems shorter to me.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: It seems it doesn't seem longer it seems shorter it's
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: like whoa.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Everything compresses we don't we don't have time to hold
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: on to everything anymore with the way the world you
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: know become and the way society is i think everything
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: becomes compressed your brain just goes into this necessity only
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: mode sometimes and there's no time to prioritize things that
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: have already passed And I don't, I don't think we
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: can really control that. It's just like a body's like
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: a mental defense mechanism. Like you're going through a lot
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: in life right now. We don't need to worry about
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: grandma's party 50 years ago. You know, I think that's
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: the way that the brain kind of works sometimes.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It kind of compartmentalizes. That's what happens when you
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: take like, like psychedelic substances, like, you know, all that
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: information is always there. And then your brain kind of goes,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: we need to survive. You know, I don't know where you're,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you know, your, your lean is on evolution, but there's a,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: there's parts I have problems with. It came to an explosion.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: It came to an explosion. For example, mathematically speaking, I
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: can't even be really done. Even if you're using like,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, random mutations, but there's parts of it. There's,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? There's, there's, you know, there's
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: overlapping magisteria and everything. In my opinion, my opinion.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I agree. I agree with you. Like, I believe for example,
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: that crow magnets and early humans were already outside the
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: walls of Eden when Adam and Eve existed. I believe.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I believe those were the outcasts. And that's where a
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: lot of your Bigfoot originated from, your early Bigfoot. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: believe the Cro-Magnons were just early humans, but hair would
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: be an evolutionary adaptation for the environment. Time changes. The
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: earth becomes less, you know, nitrogen rich and oxygen rich.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Things don't grow as rich and tall as they used to.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: You know, I think that Noah was probably eight to
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: 10 feet tall because it was just such a pure
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: world back then. You know, humans were just more stout
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: and taller. And after pollution and everything happened after the flood,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: after we pissed God off and he punished us, now
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: we've just kind of had to deal with it. I
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: think early humans are really, really tall, you know, by
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: our standards today.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Now, we're growing taller today, though. I mean, you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: if you look back 100 years ago, I mean, if
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I go into any old house in Baltimore on the
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: East Coast, I got a duck.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. Isn't that kind of crazy how, like,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: even the build of the architecture reflected, like, the common
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: heights at that time?
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Here in the yucatan the people are on average shorter
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: i mean my girlfriend's five foot one the tallest man
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: you'll find here is i mean you'll find a few
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: of course yeah but like on average people here dudes
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: here like five six you know and uh i got
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: a back door here that i walk out i gotta
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: watch myself i mean literally it's here it's here i
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: have to duck down to get in there and she
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: says oh what do you keep banging your head for
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: it's like i i'm trying to go in out the
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: door to do something yeah Oh my God. It's why
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I'm in the way I am. I think I got
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: some scrambled eggs going on up there.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I'll be honest. The more you dabble in this stuff,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: the deeper it goes and you realize how this is
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: connected to that. And your brain just becomes overwhelmed anyway,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: that you have your job and your work. You know
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? I, I enjoy, I enjoy this so
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: much that I want urban Bigfoot to be able to travel.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Like I want to talk, I want to speak, you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: And my first ever opportunity to speak is going to
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: be in Arkansas next year with Matthew Wharton of Drunk Encrypted.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: All right, dude.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: That's cool. That's amazing.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I find the opposite, man. I find the more I
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: dabble into this, the more it's not that it's not impressive.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: It's just it doesn't claim me as much. It actually
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: pushes me more towards God. It kind of goes, oh.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see that. There you go.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: The fact that these things exist, in my opinion, is
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: already proof that there's God. I've never, you know, I've
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: never needed proof to believe in God. I've had things
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: happen in my life that I can't explain. You know,
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gotten through even just being a young,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: scared kid in basic military training in 2006 without God.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, you were in the military?
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in the Air Force.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I was so scared, man. My first flight was from Lansing,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Michigan to San Antonio, Texas. That was my first flight ever.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: I had just turned 20, pretty much. Mm-hmm. And I'm like,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: all right, let's just go leave 4,000 miles away and enlist.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Where the hell was I from? I went from Augusta,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Georgia to Atlanta. And so I'm former U.S. Army. Awesome, man.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your service. Yeah, don't you say that.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: That stuff bugs the hell out of me. I knew
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: what I was doing. You don't have to thank me, man.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Enjoy your Coca-Cola.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Take care of your families and do the right thing.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Because it's the right thing to do. That's what I did.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: I just stepped up. That's right. Everyone steps up in
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: their own way. Exactly. We need people for lumber. We
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: need people to take care of our children and teach
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: our children.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't enlist for the government, man. I enlisted for
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: the American people. I look at it like this. I
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: got to live in this country. Other people died before
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: me and served before me to give me that right
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: to do this. The least I can do is serve
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: to earn my right to be here. You know what
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: I mean? Not that everybody needs to earn their right.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: But in the sense, if you have a military mindset
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: and you've served, the military is one of those things
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: kind of where the job picks you. You don't really
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: pick the job, you know, and that's where the draft
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: and all that comes in, which a lot of people
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: didn't want to go when they had to. But as
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: far as people who volunteer, I mean, I knew from
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: the age of 10 that I wanted to enlist. I
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: just the only thing that ever really changed was what
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: branch it was going to be.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you chose. I think you chose a
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: smart one because it's just it's not. Don't take this
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: the wrong way. It's not as physically demanding. Yeah. As
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: the other branches. Yeah. But it's definitely necessary and it's
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: definitely a little more technologically advanced. It's harder to get rank.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: That's for sure. I know that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to test. You have to test after
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: senior airman or E4.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Not me. I just got it. You guys had
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: to go in front of the board to get promoted,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: didn't you? When you got a certain rank.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't go to PDLC. I didn't make sergeant. I
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: was a specialist, which is basically like I was in
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: the Signal Corps, so it's different. Oh, that's cool. It's
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: like the technical aspect of the Army, but like the
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: grunts and stuff, the equal to that is basically a corporal.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: So I made it to corporal, and they lost my paperwork.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: They wanted to promote me to sergeant, but I wasn't
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: going to enlist anyway. I did my four. I was like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: you know what? I'm good, buddy. I'm good. My back hurts.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: I'm out. Exactly.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: My back still hurts, by the way.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I actually finally, finally, they stepped up and are giving
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: me some, some help and some relief on that.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: I love that, man.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: It took me three years. It's, it was a battle
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: and it's still rages, but they're least step up and
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: they go, you know what? You're okay, man. And then
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I can take that money and go to my chiropractor
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: because I need to.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Dude, I'm a massive chiropractor fan. I am, I believe
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: that the spinal fluid keeps moving, pain stays out of
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: the body and the chiropractors keep, keep your spinal fluid moving.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, I had, what was it was like before
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I went back to work, it was over summer vacation
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: and I couldn't look up. Like there was something deep
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: in the right, like cervical spine of my neck, like
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: off to the right where I couldn't look up. And
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: I was in agony to the point of crying for
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: like three days. I had to hold my arm up
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: here to sleep or even just to like, function so
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: i went to the chiropractor and after he snapped it
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: and popped it right there it just i felt everything
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: just kind of shift pain was gone it was just
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: tender for a few days because it's out of whack
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: for so long but i was no way i would
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: have got that myself.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Someone's at the door oh man i'm sorry hold on
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: no you're good it's all who are these motherfuckers It
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: was my girlfriend's mother bringing me towels.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. You can't have too many of those.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: I washed them the other day and left them somewhere
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: and left them hanging and she grabbed them for me.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: She goes, Art, She said in Spanish, I'm in the
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: middle of my show. It's all good. When you live
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: down here, it's Mayan country, man.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I've seen some pyramids, man. I've been up some pyramids.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: That is amazing.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of spooky stuff down here too, bro.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: That's the future for me.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Travel around and explore in different areas would be freaking amazing.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I lived in Europe 20 years. I lived in America 20,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: my first 20 years. I got sent to Germany, Germany
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: because of the army. Yeah. And, uh, ended up living
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: 20 years over there. I met my, uh, my army
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: sweetheart when I was there. And, uh, we ended up
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: moving here because of the COVID and they weren't going
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: to put that in my arm. So I bounced out
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: of it. I gave up everything to come down here.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: And if this happens again, let's just see what happened
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: in Russia. Right. Yeah. If this happens again, I'm going
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: to my property in the middle of nowhere. I got the,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: you know, got a little bangy bangy poo poos and
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: pop owls. And there's deer, turkey. I'm next to the
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: ocean and I'm next to the most angriest forest I've
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: ever been to.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Dude, you can call it the Franklin compound. There you go.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: No, I ain't doing all that stuff. No Waco here.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: I got you.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Well, here would be more like taco. Taco.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The best ones. The best ones, literally.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never... I mean, I've had tacos in the States.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: and they're always the crunchy shell ones, which doesn't exist
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: in Mexico. People don't know that. Crunchy shell tacos only mix...
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: They don't even know what that is.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: That's an Americanized thing.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not as good. People love Taco Bell.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, you've got to go to the street
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: vendors in Mexico, bro.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Dude, that ain't Mexican food. I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: It hits the spot once in a while, but, but still,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: you know, it's not your authentic Mexican at all by
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: any means.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. So, so what else do you want to
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: talk about, bro? What you got? You got something lined
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: up for me? You want something you want to talk about?
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Basically, I'll tell you, this is how, this is why
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: I started Urban Bigfoot. This is why. Now, like I said,
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: I had hiked out here for years and before I
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: really knew a whole lot about tree, the tree structure
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: aspect of Bigfoot, you know what it means. I would
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: see signs of stuff out there, right? There'd be, eight,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: nine foot tall, seven foot tall breaks off the ground,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: two trees side by side in an area where windfall
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: wasn't likely and there wasn't any other trees around or
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: anything else to even legitimately cause it. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I've seen these kind of tree breaks and teepee structures
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  Speaker 4: are even out there just off the trail and on
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  Speaker 4: movies and stuff. And I'm like, okay, let's, let's buy
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: into the theory for a second. Let's say there is
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot out here. Let's say Bigfoot does exist in urban areas.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Let's say, you know, we're just taking out their territory
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: so much. that you're bound to cross paths with something
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  Speaker 4: that used to be in a place where wilderness existed
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  Speaker 4: more before we came and clear-cutted everything, you know? And
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: me and my buddy would hike out there, and one day,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, let's just go out here. Let's just go
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  Speaker 4: out at night, right? And our first real experience at night,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: I think, is what really solidified it for me, that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: we had something happen out there, you know, that it
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  Speaker 4: was a Bigfoot. We were doing a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: whoop noise and stuff. This was one of our first
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: times I think it's probably the seventh or eighth investigation
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: we had done in this area. And we had had
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  Speaker 4: wood knocks and stuff, but anything could have wood knocked, right?
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  Speaker 4: We're in the middle of the woods. Other people could
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: be out here hiking. Again, as a good researcher figures
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  Speaker 4: out what it's not first. And I'm doing whooping sounds.
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  Speaker 4: My buddy had the Sierra sounds playing. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: maybe if we turn on the Sierra sounds, the vocalizations
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  Speaker 4: could very well trigger any, if we have the same
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  Speaker 4: type or species of Sasquatch out here, why would this
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  Speaker 4: not trigger something, right? So my buddy had that going
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  Speaker 4: like a hundred yards behind me and I'm doing whooping noises.
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  Speaker 4: You get right to the corner where there's like a
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  Speaker 4: little opening in the fence where people just kind of
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  Speaker 4: go sit by the fence and watch the planes, like
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  Speaker 4: little Cessnas go by. Cause again, it's across the airport
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  Speaker 4: and I'm doing whooping noises and we hear one come back.
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  Speaker 4: And this was definitely the alpha. And I would say
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: five or six seconds. This was going on for absolutely
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: blood curdling whooping noise. And I'm like, bro, that's not
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  Speaker 4: a coyote. that's not a bear. That's not a wolf.
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  Speaker 4: That's a pissed off Bigfoot. So I'm like, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to just back out slowly the way we came. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the first, the first thing is to run, but what
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  Speaker 4: happens every animalistic instincts going to be like, okay, that's prey.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go get dinner.
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: And if this wasn't back to Sasquatch, we're done for,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or even.
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  Speaker 3: A dog man.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot. We have a huge dog man presence
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  Speaker 4: out there too. Yeah. Massive. The Michigan dog man is
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  Speaker 4: actually our state cryptid. The very first sighting of the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Michigan Dogman was in Wexford County in 1887. And I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: think there were some hunters or fishermen, maybe loggers or
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: something at that time, and a pack of wolves approached
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: them by the water. And so they fired their rifles
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  Speaker 4: to scare them off, and all of them but one ran.
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  Speaker 4: This one stood up on its back leg, seven or
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: eight feet tall, and looked at them, walked towards them
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, and then dropped and took off into
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  Speaker 4: the woods. And the man described it as basically a
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  Speaker 4: man with a wolf's face, the way he described it.
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  Speaker 4: And later on, Steve Cook, who was a DJ in
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  Speaker 4: Traverse City, Michigan, it was right around Halloween, and he
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  Speaker 4: decided to make a prank Dogman song about the Michigan
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  Speaker 4: Dogman just to kind of make it kind of spooky
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  Speaker 4: for Halloween. No sooner than that aired, people called reporting
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  Speaker 4: their sightings that they had had of this. They took
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  Speaker 4: it like, whoa, Steve Cook had talked.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: So they started calling into Steve Cook and Reed City,
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  Speaker 4: Michigan is one of the top cities to go get
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  Speaker 4: a Dogman sighting. Dogmen tend to be, from what I understand,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know a whole lot about dogmen. I'm going
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: to dig into it more now that I know for
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  Speaker 4: a fact that they're out there. And I know that
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  Speaker 4: they tend to come back to the same areas. Anybody
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: that's ever gone to this area in Reed City, I've
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: never been there personally, I want to go there someday,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: has an experience. There was this one spot where you'd
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  Speaker 4: sit down and this thing would just come out of
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  Speaker 4: the woods and run people off. And they appear to
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  Speaker 4: be creatures of habit. And when people called Steve Cook,
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  Speaker 4: he's like, dude, I'm just kidding. I just wrote this song.
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  Speaker 4: Like I just wanted to have a little fun for Halloween.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: It was either Halloween or April fools and people pouring in.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: And he's like, this might be something. So we're digging
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: into old logger journals and stuff. And it's documented wolf-like beings.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, even here during the war of 1812 in
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: soldiers journals, while they're actively engaging the enemy at the time,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: there were Sasquatch creatures climbing the walls, taking the rations.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: This is in documented stories of, Like the British and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Americans all over different excursions. The French, all of it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Like these Bigfoot was an opportunist, obviously. I mean, they
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: use paths that are already made because they're smart like
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: we are. Why would I blaze my own trail when
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  Speaker 4: I have railroad tracks that connect to major waterways and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: cities for hundreds of miles? You know, they're creatures of habit.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: You want to find a Bigfoot? Walk down a game
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  Speaker 4: trail late at night. You're going to have an experience.
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  Speaker 4: I guarantee it almost every time. Just because that's their
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: hunting path. The animals use it, but the animals don't
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: know shit about Bigfoot. Next thing you know, he picks
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: up a deer and takes off at 45 miles an hour.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: And you don't even, you don't even hear the feet
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: hitting the ground. We have footage of one running on
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  Speaker 4: the page too. My buddy caught it on his iPhone.
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  Speaker 4: You see this thing zip behind a tree. And I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: swear to God, almost a blur. Like you would see
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  Speaker 4: like in the flash.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You capture in the frame.
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  Speaker 3: Of the video.
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  Speaker 4: And this thing is just hauling, not a sound, no crunching, nothing.
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  Speaker 4: We've had sticks thrown at us from 75 feet away
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  Speaker 4: land right at our feet coming from the top of trees.
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  Speaker 4: And it's landing precisely within three to four inches of
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  Speaker 4: our feet. Tell me that they don't have the depth
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  Speaker 4: perception and the knowledge to know the exact distance that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: you're standing from their location to make that happen.
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  Speaker 3: You have to practice that too. Yeah. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: what kind of depth perception you have. There's a hand.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: That is a practice thing. Unless you buy into the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: woo factor like I do. I do believe that many
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: of them are supernatural. I don't think all of them
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: have powers, but I do believe a lot of them do.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: And I believe the ones that do. And again, on
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: my page, there is a portal, 47 second video of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: a portal. I was not expecting it that night. And
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: you'll notice in my tone of voice and the profanity
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: that it's in this video as well, because we went
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  Speaker 4: out to what was just going to be a routine
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot night hike, right? And when you get out here, basically,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: there's like a trail to the left. way further back
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: there's a trail to the right and then there's like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: a straightaway between two tree lines just like a clearing
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: I noticed something glowing out there this night and I'm
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: going off the path here for a minute because I feel.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Like this is important this is the important one to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: share that's why I'm kind of going from the other
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: story this one's cooler anyway though let's be honest I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: gotta do some editing we'll get there by the way.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: I'm looking down the straightaway and I'm like my buddy
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: Jake he's my best friend and the other half of
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: Urban Bigfoot basically and I'm like do you see that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: there is like a huge white ball straight ahead at probably.
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  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Two, 300 meters, maybe, maybe 400. So it wasn't real
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: far away, but it was about nine 30, 10 at night.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: And you know, even with natural light, you're not going
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: to get a whole lot of clarity, but I'm looking
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: at this thing grow. I'm thinking, all right, rational thoughts first.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: What could this be? There's gas lines buried out there.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe there's some sort of electrical aspect and we're having
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: a chemical reaction or something. Then it starts to get
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: bigger and bigger and bigger. And based on where we
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: were standing and from where it was at, this thing
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: would have had to have been 15 to 20 feet
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: wide in person. And when you zoom in further, there's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: shit walking out of this. There are bipedal figures walking
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: out of this portal towards us. And they are essentially
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: jumping into the tree line, which would be their left,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: viewers right, and climbing the trees. And if you're in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: this video and you zoom in and you go through
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: frame by frame, you will see this happen for yourself.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: I can send you all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Links in the description.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Links in the description. You're going to hold that out
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  Speaker 3: on me to the end, man? What the hell are
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: you doing?
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  Speaker 4: All yours, man. But like I said, we can always
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  Speaker 4: do a part two if you want to.
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  Speaker 3: You got a good show. Thanks, man. I appreciate that.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: It's been a labor of love, I guess you would
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: call it.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: I look forward to it, man.
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  Speaker 4: I look forward to being.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: And the thing is, sightings are picking up, phenomena is
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: picking up. And I believe that's all biblical. You know,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: we're in the last days, in my honest opinion. And
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: there's literally a translation of in the last days, there
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: will be monsters in one of the Bibles. So like
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: the Hebrew word, I believe, translates to monsters. So that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: veil in other dimensions is it's thinner. You know, we're
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: starting to see more now and we're starting to cross
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: paths with some more now because we're cutting into their territory.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: They're becoming more bold. There could be that they're actually
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: coming to tell us something. There's people who have really
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: in-depth communication and contact with them.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, we've been inter-sounded out here before. We've heard grunts.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: There's a constant one that likes to mimic a turkey sound.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a turkey gobble, but turkey is a pretty
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: common mimic that Sasquatch does.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: you just like how you would read the encounter sounded
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: like this, but not quite just different.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what it was like. Somebody's either really bad
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: at doing Turkey calls or there is a Sasquatch trying
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: to get my attention, which I talked to him when
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: we go out there. I believe the urban ones are
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: more tame. I mean, they're watching people play soccer. We're
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: their TV, man. And, I mean, if you're lucky enough
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: to live on property where you have some in your woods,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: they're been known to walk up to people's windows and
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: watch TV through them and stuff while they're sitting on
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: their couches. I mean, that tells me that most of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: the ones that we have today are just primitive humans
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: with fantastic abilities.
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  Speaker 3: Watching King of Queens and the freaking things laughing at Arthur,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: that would just... Right?
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  Speaker 4: Or get this, imagine they walk up and you're watching
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Harry and the Hendersons. LAUGHTER Like you'd be like, wait
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: a minute. That's not a bad, that's not a bad look.
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  Speaker 4: Stayed decent with that.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: All right, man. Let me thank you again so much
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: for coming by, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, dude. I look forward to talking to you again.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we will, we will, we will, we'll definitely look
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: into that, man. Tell everybody one more time where they
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: can find you and when your show happens with, with
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: the Cryptid Wranglers there.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: You got it. You guys can find me on Facebook
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: at Urban Bigfoot. Again, we're working on a YouTube, but
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: Urban Bigfoot's a Facebook page. And it's public right now.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: I haven't had a reason to add the questions yet.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: I have a really great team of moderators. And I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: don't like to immediately assume everybody's just going to be
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: trolls right off the bat. I like to give people
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: a chance. But that's it. You come in to troll,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: you're gone. I see your comments before they post. So
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: don't even bother, you know. And the Cryptid Wrangler podcast
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: is on every Friday night at 8 Eastern, 7 Central.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: And then I believe 4 for Dan. I'm sorry, 5 p.m.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: for Dan, California time. Larry's in Indiana, so he's like
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: an hour behind me. But it's 8 Eastern is what
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  Speaker 4: I go with because I know that's when I got
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: to be on there. And we talk about everything. We
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: get great guests, you know, and I believe we're going
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: to be getting you on there, too. So let's get
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: you scheduled.
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  Speaker 3: OK, I don't know. I haven't had any Bigfoot encounters.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: We can talk about poltergeists if you want.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. We cover it all because Dan did paranormal
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: research longer than he's done cryptid research.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: So he's a great one to talk to about that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: We like we're not limited to Bigfoot dog. When you
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: come on and talk to us about anything weird. whether
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: it's fricking vampires or something that we might not know
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: anything about. I mean, I'd say there's 200, 300 different
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: cryptids out there and most of them are lesser known.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Right. That's absolutely true. The Ohio grass, man, Pugwudgie style
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: and alike. Yes. All of those, all those. And on
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: a personal note, man, a shout out, Dan, get wet,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: get well soon, buddy, man. We were all pulling for you, buddy. Absolutely.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Get better. Get well, man. Dude, it's been a pleasure.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Do me a favor. Please stick around. So all this
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: stuff uploads.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: You got it. You got it, man.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed it. That's Scott, the founder of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Urban Bigfoot. I want to appreciate you one more time, buddy.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on, man.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: All right, buddy. So remember, we are the eye. We
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: are aware. Love you all. Thank you.