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Grace Curley · Newsradio WGAN

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A part of our program, and I'll say the same thing to Grace
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Curley because she's part of my program every Monday and she's
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here again. How are things Grace?
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Things are great. Matt, how are you?
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Thanks for having me. Oh, I'm great.
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I appreciate you asking. So let's talk about our friends
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in Virginia. On Friday, as I was milling
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around my office, checked the news, saw the Virginia Supreme
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Court made a decision to ultimately throw out and toss
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the redistricting plan that was just passed, what, a couple
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weeks ago at this point. Throwing into total chaos.
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The whole idea that the Democrats could sort of jury rig
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that that state and get another 4 congressional districts out of
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it. When you combine this with the
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Supreme could like the actual Supreme Court's decision in the
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voting rights case, which is ultimately going to probably be
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responsible for another like 12 to 20 Republican seats in the
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South. This is shaping up to be pretty
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bad for the Democrats. They're they're, they opened up
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Pandora's box and it doesn't look like it's going so well.
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Yeah, no, I that's a perfect summation of Bill Maluchin,
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actually described as a catastrophe for the Democrats.
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And I, I don't think that that's dramatic.
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It's also just for for our sake in the entertainment world.
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It's amusing considering how high on their horse they were
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just a few weeks ago. It's funny how things change.
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I mean, we were hearing Faffo from Hakeem Jeffries.
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He really felt tough for a minute there.
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He really felt like he was doing something.
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And turns out he wasn't. And we have to watch all these
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same people who would be, and I saw people pointing this out
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over the weekend of social media.
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They would be the first ones telling us if this had gone
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their way, that This is why you have to respect, you know, the
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decisions from the higher ups, whether it's Virginia Supreme
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Court or the Supreme Court, you have to respect their opinions.
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And it's settled law and it's the law of the land.
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And This is why there are betters.
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And this is a fight for democracy.
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And now they're all freaking out.
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They're on all the TV shows losing their minds over this.
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And, and the, the funny part about this is that it's, there
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are things that I find complicated in the world of
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politics, like there are aspects or things that I find in the
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weeds that are a little harder for me to understand.
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And it takes me a little while. But for this one, you don't have
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to be that smart to figure out that they've already
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gerrymandered a lot of states. And so therefore, in this
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battle, they just have less to go off.
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They just have. They've done all.
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They've already used up a lot of their opportunities.
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And I remember reading this piece in the Wall Street Journal
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in the summertime by Kim Strassel.
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I think it was the summertime. And she was just talking about
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how like, yeah, if if Republicans start this fight and
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aren't actually willing to do it, which I really think is what
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the Democrats were banking on, then sure, it could be a win for
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Democrats because they'll gain a few seats here and there.
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And Republicans will do what we've usually done over the last
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few decades. We just sit back and take it and
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not actually try. But on the off chance we do try,
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we have a lot more to gain here. And that's what we're seeing.
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And so it's a nice win. I have to say, I hope they keep
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it up. Yeah, and just no notes.
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So far so good. Yeah.
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I mean, it's just I always thought it was crazy for them to
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start this whole thing. I mean, I realized they all say,
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say the original sin is Texas, but Texas, of course, was
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responding to the massive gerrymanders that have been
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taking place over the last like, you know, 100 years.
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It's not like it's somehow it just came out of nowhere or
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whatever. But like they had to make a
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decision when Texas started doing that.
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They're like, do we just kind of let this go and move on or do we
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try to pick this fight? And when they decided to pick
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the fight, they were picking an unwinnable fight.
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This is something they were never going to get an advantage
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out of. And it now in the process of
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screwing it all up and actually making their lives worse,
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they've also made every district worse at all.
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I mean, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, yeah.
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And it also hasn't been cheap, which is the kind of the two the
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the, the, the other part of this part, the other part of the
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story that I love is that it's costing like $70 million in
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Virginia. So keep it up.
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I can keep fighting these expensive races and losing.
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I love it. Have you seen there have been
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following any of the freak out that's happening over in
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California right now? I actually have taken a weird
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interest in that race because I saw maybe like last week or the
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week before the California gubernatorial debate on my TV
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and I actually watched some of it, which was I wouldn't
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recommend it. I wouldn't recommend it, but
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they are absolutely losing their mind over the fact that there is
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a possibility that there are two Republicans that end up being
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your choice in the general election and no Democrats on the
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gubernatorial ballot because they have a jungle primary.
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And wouldn't you know it, Grace Curley, they're talking about
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trying to change the rules because they don't like it when
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the rules mean they lose. These are the democracy
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defenders. I have to remind everyone it's
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delicious. Right.
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Well, you understand this better than most being in Maine.
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I mean, this is just how it works.
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We change elections, we change the voting to make it, you know,
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easier for our candidates to win.
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And then when it's not working for us, we changed them again.
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This is ridiculous. And I also just, I know when I
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look at the Democrats in California, it's amazing to me
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that that's a deep blue state with so many people.
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Like there's so many people who can just say they're from
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California who are crazy liberals.
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And these are the most charismatic, strong candidates
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you could come up with. Like I think if you asked if you
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asked a genie like, hey, here's one of my wishes.
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Give me the four or five most unlikable, uncharismatic people
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on the face of the planet and put them on this debate stage.
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You would get Katie Porter Tom Steyer.
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I know where swallows on in it anymore, but he.
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Deserves it. He was in it for a while.
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And Javier Becerra, who I guess compared to all of these people
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is, is supposed to be like the front runner and the one with
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the most on his side, which isn't saying a lot.
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I mean, this is just a real who's who of unlikeable, boring,
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corrupt, mean, mean politicians. Now I'm really speaking about
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Katie. Courtney yeah.
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I was going to say that's I know who you're talking about.
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I mean, Tom Steyer's no, no nice guy either.
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I mean, it's you're right. I mean it out of a state as
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large as that, as important as that.
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This is what you produce. Seriously.
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This is what you have for options.
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You can't do a little bit better than this.
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But but Matt, can we also, because I want to hear your, you
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know, how once a month I have to take this interview and I have
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to take over and start asking you questions.
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But what do you think of the mayoral race?
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I mean, is Spencer Pratt going to do this thing?
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I'm trying really hard not to like, you know, faint of hope
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here because it would be really just amazing if he did.
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It would be very, very interesting if he did.
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I'll say. Even if he doesn't though, I
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mean, he's certainly providing a road map for, you know,
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campaigning like for talking about stuff like it's the the
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ads have been quite good. So we'll see.
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I don't know, man. I don't know if I ever hope for
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anything positive anymore in that place, but who knows?
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It's possible it's. Possible.
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It's interesting too, because a lot of people have been saying,
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and I tend to agree, when you watch him, there is a Trump
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factor. Like, I'm not saying it's all of
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what Trump is or, you know, not all of it.
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But it's like there is this element of someone with good
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instincts, with a sense of humor, who is able to think on
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their feet and tell you how they really feel.
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And they're not ashamed of themselves or they're not trying
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to hide any part of themselves. And therefore they just say what
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they're thinking. And it turns out a lot of people
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agree and you couple it with the fact that he's an actual victim
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of these Palisades fires. I mean, I I've been watching
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this thing pretty closely. I have to say it was an OG
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Spencer fan so I'm kind of biased.
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Here you want to believe. You want to believe?
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I want to believe. Yeah, I I would love to see this
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happen. The California man, they're
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providing a lot of content. They are, Yeah.
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No, there's no, there's no shortage of things to talk about
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because of our friends in California.
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That's no doubt about it. Yeah, we'll see.
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I mean, I got my fingers crossed.
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I certainly if, if, if so, if it does end up happening, that does
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I think give you a pretty powerful statement about I think
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this midterm, right? I mean, it's like, can you
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succeed in really odd places if you have right guy, right time,
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right message, right way of doing it, etc.
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Yeah, you can, you can. And maybe that's part of your
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issue, guys. Maybe that's your part of your.
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Issue and also just a willingness to not make it
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national when it doesn't have to be that that part of it.
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And I'm speaking as someone who's always been, you know,
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encouraged to stick with more local stuff.
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And I have a hard time doing it because I do love national news.
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But if you're running in a spot, and I think about this in the
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city of Boston, for example, it's like we have so many issues
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in the city of Boston, right? And all our city councilors want
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to talk about is like declaring a resolution against the war in
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Iran and having a national day for Cardi B or a Boston day.
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Like they want to do all this stupid stuff that would be
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stupid even if they were national politicians or
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representing the entire country. But it's even more stupid when
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you're like, hey, can you guys just balance the budget to the
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baseball teams can afford hats this year and they have no
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interest in that. It's like everyone's lost sight
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of the fact that politics used to be pretty boring, and it used
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to be about the nuts and bolts of wherever you were and trying
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to do basic things like balance the budget and provide, you
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know, some services for people. And that's not sexy enough for a
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lot of people anymore. So they're like trying to make
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it into something it's not. And that's his major point is
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like, yeah, I don't know everything about every single
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political issue, but I know how to get people on who do.
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And I know what's bothering people.
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I know what the problems are. That used to be what made-up
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local politics, and it's just not anymore.
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Yeah, good point. I noticed on Friday.
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By the way, as a final question to you, Grace Curly, before I
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let you go. And by the way, happy Mother's
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Day. I forgot to say that to you on
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the outset. Say hello to your children, who
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I hear in the background I always enjoy.
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They're great guests on the program.
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I always love it, they add a lot.
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They do, don't they? Yes, it's character to the show.
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I like it, but as I get you out the door, though, I noticed you
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talked about AO CS. You didn't build that moment on
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Friday. I I got AI got to ask you about
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this interview because it made my teeth gnash and I just
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started twitching listening to her talk about that.
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I mean, she's, I mean, the big money quote was something like,
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you can't make a billion dollars.
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Like it's not possible. I'm like, you make a widget that
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like you get a dollar, like you sell it for $14.00.
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When you make it for 13 and you sell a billion of the widgets.
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Yeah, you can. Like, yes, you can.
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What are you talking about, woman?
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This is someone who I have to remind people, got an economics
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degree at Boston University, which should be to the eternal
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shame of Boston University that they awarded that.
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In fact, if you have an economics degree from Boston
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University, you have to be weeping over it right now.
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The fact that she is now your standard bearer across the
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country right now. It was a somewhat hilarious and
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sad moment, made none better by the interviewer who just
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couldn't stop like slobbering praise all over her for her
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diatribe. But.
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Yeah, she was like a hype woman. She's like, yes.
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Yes, that is so right. Very good.
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Excellent, I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's this new
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thing of just saying the stupidest thing and then having
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everyone pretend you just said something really profound, which
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I told my producer. I said we need to get somebody
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on the on my show who does that. I would really love for him to
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chime in every once in a while when I'm saying something stupid
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and just hammer home to people that I'm extremely brilliant.
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But when I was listening to that, it's like, they've all had
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their own version of this, Matt, like Obama, you didn't build
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that. Elizabeth Warren had a, you
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didn't build that. They all kind of do this.
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Every generation, I guess, of politicians tries to convince
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people that whatever they've earned, it's not really theirs.
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And I had John Carney on my show on Friday and he was like, just
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let everyone remember that she's saying billionaires, but she's
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not really thinking of billionaires.
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She's thinking of anyone who makes a decent living.
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Done it, done it. That's not, you know, eating
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from the through of, you know, the, the big government.
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That's who she's thinking of. And so that's the scary part of
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it. But the other scary part is that
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I don't know, it's like when you have such a big platform, I
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don't have a big platform. I have like a decent, you know,
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like I, I, I don't want to over hype what I have, but I'm always
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very cautious about not sounding dumb.
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And trust me, like trust me, sometimes it happens, okay?
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You can't avoid going. To do what your girl is going to
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do. But none of us are perfect.
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But when I'm talking about issues that you can easily
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Google or you know that like an Aleppo moment, I try to avoid
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that because I'm not an academic.
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And I'm like, hey, I just want to do my research.
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I just want to make sure this is right before I stay on the air
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so I don't sound like an ass clown.
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And I just find it interesting that she doesn't have the desire
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to do that and the confidence in which she says these things that
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are so easily disproven. But that's the part of it.
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It's the confidence that I find disturbing.
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It's because she believes it's so, I mean, the question I've
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seen asked from some people about this interview is, you
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know, does she actually believe this?
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Is does she know she's wrong about this and she's just saying
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it because of course, this is how you play to the crowd,
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right? And I'm just not sure.
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I just, I, I, I think at this point they have so internalized
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the politics of their bubble that I'm not sure she doesn't
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believe what she just said. And if that's the case, then Oh
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my God. Yeah, and also I, I saw, I think
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it was like Clay Travis or somebody who's on talks and they
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made a good point of it'd be such a great question to ask
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her. Like what about Beyoncé?
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Do you think Beyoncé is there in her billion?
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Like there were plenty of female like Taylor Swift.
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You think she's earned her billion?
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Because I know that they're only thinking of like the evil rich
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white you're. Thinking of Elon and Bezos?
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Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, the people that are,
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you know, saving the astronauts from space, we hate them a lot.
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But what about the other? What about the singers?
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Like, have they or the artists, have they earned it?
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There's so much here that you could decide.
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And then that, and I'm sure you've talked about this or
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you're going to her comments about the Revolutionary War
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billionaires. It's like, it's like you can
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feel the cheapness of this billionaire fight by how much
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they just bring it up with really no context or no argument
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behind it. It's like a buzzword.
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It's like if you it's almost become the new Trump, like if
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you say billionaire, then you're going to get the support of all
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these Gen. Z ers who don't know what the
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hell. Yeah, you'll just get the
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clapping seals barking at you. That's that's that's all you're
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looking for when you say the word billionaires because it's
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resentment politics. I had a caller earlier this
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morning started asking questions about this.
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And, you know, I asked, you know, he said something about
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taxes or whatever. And I was like, so does that
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make your life any better? Like.
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And his response to it was, well, we got to chop these guys
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down, basically. It's like like, you know,
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they're they're rich and they're taking from us.
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It's it's like resentment based, jealousy based politics.
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Yeah, yeah. And you can't.
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It's not. Good.
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It's not good like that. That's something I get jealous
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of people all the time. Like, OK, I'll go on Instagram
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or something, I'll be looking, somebody's got, you know,
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somebody looks really great or something, and I get a little
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feeling of jealousy. It's normal.
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But my usual response to that is like, what am I feeling about
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myself that I could improve on in my own life?
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Like, oh, that person looks great.
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That person looks like they work out.
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Maybe I should go to the gym. Like, maybe I shouldn't tell
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that person they can't go to the gym.
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Or maybe I should try to take away their gym membership.
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Maybe I should do something that's going to make me feel
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good. It's like if you're so jealous
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of people, try to improve your own life.
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Yeah, it's. Not their fault that you're
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where you are, so chill out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like you're going to try to take down Elon Musk like he's done
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something to you. These people are so lame.
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Yeah, they are. Well, you'll hear more about the
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lameness on Grace's show today. Make sure you tune in.
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Appreciate it as always, Grace, and we'll talk again soon and
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again, Happy Mother's Day. Thank you, Matt, appreciate it
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and see your wife as well.