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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU President Michael Benson Visits (Episode 729) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: It is showtime in the big city. Hi, everybody, welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: It is time for three guys before the game. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to remember have I ever said this? Iristin We've
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  Speaker 1: got a good one for you. So good. Our guest
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  Speaker 1: is wearing a suit. I mean, I mean I do
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  Speaker 1: feel underdressed today he came in suit. I guess I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised. Ladies and gentlemen. The President of West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia University, Michael Benson, is with us, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into a lot of stuff. You know, sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: may think stereotypically that the President would just be like
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  Speaker 1: in this tunnel of just like they do one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Not our guy over here. He got his hands and
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  Speaker 1: about everything. And we're gonna talk about his clone because
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  Speaker 1: there's no way there's only one of them, because if
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  Speaker 1: you just follow him, he makes me tired. Three guys
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  Speaker 1: before the game is brought to us by going don't
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  Speaker 1: get the Gomart rewards card and immediately begin saving on
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  Speaker 1: your food and your fuel. President made his way over
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  Speaker 1: today from Stuart Hall on a lou Wendell pontoon boat.
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  Speaker 1: It was difficult, but he meandered through the mon River
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  Speaker 1: Tutor's biscuit. We will ask the President how many he
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  Speaker 1: could take down, and by Jan Dill's attorneys at law,
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  Speaker 1: they won't take no for an answer. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: jump in. The crew is fully assembled. We are now
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  Speaker 1: into what we're gonna We're getting back into regular rotation.
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  Speaker 1: There was a couple of shows there in this month
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  Speaker 1: of July where we were guest heavy, and so we
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  Speaker 1: pre recorded them. What that's that was not the right
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  Speaker 1: way to say, record everything. We held them, we batched them.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're back to regular because uh Rich Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: and his football club they're going to be on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field. Now we're basically a week away from the
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  Speaker 1: start of practice, which is real, fifth, real, real, they've
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  Speaker 1: been practicing, but the fifth of August soccer comes in
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  Speaker 1: this coming Sunday and everything's getting ready to go. Mister President.
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  Speaker 1: Top of the day, to you.
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  Speaker 2: Sir, thank you, Sam, to you so about this.
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  Speaker 1: Non sleep thing. Seriously, you make me tired. So we're
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  Speaker 1: recording early in the morning. You were where last night.
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  Speaker 2: We were down in Beckley.
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  Speaker 3: I went down to sab and Sandy Purty and then
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  Speaker 3: came back.
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  Speaker 2: Got up pertly.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've stayed up to watch my Rangers play the
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  Speaker 3: Texas Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: Then you watch them every night.
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  Speaker 2: I knew I watch them.
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  Speaker 3: If it's after the game, I'll watch the Condens game
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  Speaker 3: because MLB, which is the best streaming platform because does
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  Speaker 3: a Condens game about twelve thirteen minutes. So that's a
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  Speaker 3: good thing to do. And then went to bed, got
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  Speaker 3: up early and in my routine.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the routine though, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Routine is take my vitamins, uh, hop a five hour
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  Speaker 3: energy and then hop in the car and go to
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  Speaker 3: to Orange Theory Fitness.
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  Speaker 1: So this Orange Theory thing, this isn't just rower all
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  Speaker 1: the time. This is these are other exercises inside there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So there are three stations.
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  Speaker 3: So you have kind of the body weight weight station
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  Speaker 3: with the benches and the bands and so forth. You've
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  Speaker 3: got treadmills and then you have rowers. So if there's
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  Speaker 3: a they call it a three G class.
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  Speaker 2: If you have three.
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  Speaker 3: Groups, then people start on each stations and your rotate
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  Speaker 3: today was a two G. But since I have a
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  Speaker 3: new left knee, I kind of stay off the treadmill,
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  Speaker 3: so I do the bike and the strider.
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  Speaker 1: Is it kind of like cheers when you go into
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  Speaker 1: there now, because it's like hey, norm, Hey, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Like it does the same group of people pretty much
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  Speaker 1: every morning when you're in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes they'll want to talk to me while
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  Speaker 3: I'm like maximum heart rate.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes when.
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  Speaker 1: You're at max heart rate, hop you would know that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean your guy that rode a bike across the
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  Speaker 1: state of Iowa. I mean when you're at max heart rate,
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  Speaker 1: last thing you need to do is have a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: You can't talk.
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  Speaker 2: You know, how's in rollment?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Can we talk about this later? So yeah, I'll try.
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  Speaker 3: And there are a ton of people in there that
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  Speaker 3: have a connection to the university. Oh yeah, a ton
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  Speaker 3: of graduates. I always wear my W gear. I've even
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  Speaker 3: provided some sweatshirts to some of the coaches. Yeah, most
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  Speaker 3: of whom are W graduates as well. So it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a trivic studio. And I've been a member since twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: We joined in Kentucky. And the nice thing too, wherever
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  Speaker 3: you are, wherever you travel, your membership is transportable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the same thing everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: And your data probably just goes right up there. You
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  Speaker 1: guys are heavy data.
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  Speaker 3: And we wear monitor and it tells you how many
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  Speaker 3: calories you burned and what they call splat point. So
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  Speaker 3: a splat point is if you are eighty four percent
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  Speaker 3: above your maximum heart rate and then you can keep
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  Speaker 3: track of it that.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, are you about one fifty between one fifty one sixties?
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  Speaker 1: You max?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: And on Saturday I went to the class. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know this, but they had made up a board. It
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  Speaker 3: was my one thousand, five hundred and fiftieth class, fifteen
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  Speaker 3: fifty fifteen fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Had you had a five hour energy Yeah? No, wait
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  Speaker 2: wait now you're a Mormon.
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  Speaker 1: President like that?
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  Speaker 4: You never had You've never had a drink, you know it,
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  Speaker 4: never smoked anything, no drug, you clean as a board
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  Speaker 4: of health. And but caffeine, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably a weakness. It is a weakness of.
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  Speaker 3: Mill I sweets that in sweets, yeah, chocolate, yeah, ice
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  Speaker 3: cream and I think it's a national ice cream month though.
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  Speaker 4: I'm all for that. Yeah, we advocate. But back to
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  Speaker 4: the caffeine. No, you hit the caffeine. I do not
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  Speaker 4: coffee just fine.
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  Speaker 3: No, Like I said, it's the temperature of the caffeine.
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  Speaker 3: So the cold caffeine is fine.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. That's how you do. That's how
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  Speaker 1: you do. You know. By the way, when we were
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  Speaker 1: at by you in the press box, they had coke.
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  Speaker 1: How they do cocin the press body.
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  Speaker 5: There's a Starbucks right there. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 5: technically on campus, but.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah we go. We love Provo.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, it was a beautiful place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we enjoy We walked like ninety nine miles in
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  Speaker 1: Provo and well we.
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  Speaker 2: Were there for six months and the altitude, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you really.
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  Speaker 1: Feel it was okay. So, by the way, the people
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  Speaker 1: are asking you at workout about how is enrollment, Like,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting ready. The kids are coming, man.
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  Speaker 2: They are.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is kind of the call before the storm.
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  Speaker 3: And as I was telling Hoppy on the way in,
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  Speaker 3: I love this time of year. I can hear the
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  Speaker 3: drumline practice scene from Stuart Hall. You hear Bladey House
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  Speaker 3: two football team is here. The residence halls are getting
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  Speaker 3: spruced up campus is looking good. I was a little
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  Speaker 3: late coming in today because they were mowing. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And we have a great partnership with the city. I
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  Speaker 2: want to give a.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to the city manager Jamie and the city council,
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  Speaker 3: the mayor. Every time we've called and said can you
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  Speaker 3: help us beautify the entry points into campus into the city,
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  Speaker 3: I responded, So I want to thank them for that.
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  Speaker 3: But last year, back to enrollment, there was the kind
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  Speaker 3: of the one off of we hit the apogee of
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  Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen year olds. So you hear about this enrollment
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  Speaker 3: decline or the prolmink cliff, and this year will be
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  Speaker 3: the first year of that persistent decline countrywide. It's just
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  Speaker 3: like we can't produce nineteen year olds overnight. So we're
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  Speaker 3: prepared for a slight dip this year, but we still
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  Speaker 3: believe it'll be the second highest in the last five
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  Speaker 3: years behind last year. Okay, So, and the more important number, Tony,
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, is our retention rate. So you can get
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  Speaker 3: kids from the door, which we spent a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time and effort doing, but you got to retain them,
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  Speaker 3: and you got to retain them from that freshman to
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  Speaker 3: sophomore year and we're at an all time high at
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  Speaker 3: eighty five point one percent of retention, which leads to
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  Speaker 3: a graduation rate, which is the ultimate brahmer.
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  Speaker 4: This enrollment thing, as you said, it really is country
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  Speaker 4: wide and I don't know exactly what you do. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the birth rate's leveled off. West Virginia is not growing
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  Speaker 4: as a state. Everybody's concerned about the price, about the
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  Speaker 4: economy and things like that. So what do you do?
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  Speaker 4: What do you do over the like, what's the next
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  Speaker 4: ten years look like?
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  Speaker 3: That's that is a perennial question for every institution. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if you look around us within a two hundred mile radius,
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  Speaker 3: Penn State's facing it right, You're Alma Mater, Tony, Syracuse
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  Speaker 3: is going through some tough times. So everybody is having
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  Speaker 3: kind of soul searching discussions about what are we going
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  Speaker 3: to do And a lot of people are arguing that
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  Speaker 3: the model that's worked for centuries is not.
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  Speaker 2: Is outdated and we have to pivot.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, Higher edit is not known for being
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  Speaker 3: very nimble, no, but you know, there's a reason the
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  Speaker 3: universities have been around for millennia, and.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to do a better job.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I keep telling there's people there's a place for
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  Speaker 3: every West.
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  Speaker 2: Virginia high school graduate at our university.
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  Speaker 3: Beckley Kaiser here, I want everybody to know that we
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  Speaker 3: also have to be a lot more aggressive and going
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  Speaker 3: into Pennsylvania, into Ohio, we'll continue to get kids from
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  Speaker 3: New Jersey, but Virginia in the Carolina. So some institutions
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  Speaker 3: are doing these kind of targeted tuition rates, so they'll
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  Speaker 3: go into a metro area and kind of disaggregate the
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  Speaker 3: data and find out that this is a popular major
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  Speaker 3: in Columbus, or this is a popular area of study
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  Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. I was in Pittsburgh of the weekend, and
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  Speaker 3: I sincerely believe that our success is going to be
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  Speaker 3: inexpertly tied to how we can get into the Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 3: market a lot more aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you have commented too that WU Medicine has
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  Speaker 4: expanded into southwestern Pennsylvania within the past few months. They
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  Speaker 4: bought five or six hospitals in southwestern PA. As they
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  Speaker 4: continue to become more of a regional entity, not just
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  Speaker 4: a West Virginia entity. You believe that help will help
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  Speaker 4: with Southwestern Pennsylvania enrollment.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it will be tremendous. Two things.
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  Speaker 3: I was in Greensburg on Friday, and the Attorney General
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  Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania mandates that a hearing has to be held
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  Speaker 3: where public comment can be made about a merger like this,
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  Speaker 3: about a transaction, which we're talking about our acquisition.
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  Speaker 2: Of Independence Health System. So that's five hospitals kind of
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  Speaker 2: south of Pittsburgh, Latrobe, Frick, Westmoreland, north of Pittsburgh, Clarion,
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  Speaker 2: and Butler. So I stayed.
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  Speaker 3: They asked me for my testimony, and I gave it,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, this is a wonderful opportunity for us
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  Speaker 3: to expand that brand.
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  Speaker 2: And to a person, everybody was so excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the second point I want to make
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  Speaker 3: is those employees at all those hospitals that once they
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  Speaker 3: are vested for one year, their dependents get a tuition
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  Speaker 3: benefit paid for by w Medicine.
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  Speaker 2: So think about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I know I'll have to do
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  Speaker 3: the number of how many employees that is. But if
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  Speaker 3: their kids have a great experience, they go tell their
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  Speaker 3: their friends. Man, I'm going to w I won't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a huge benefit for us.
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  Speaker 2: In addition, one of the speakers said clinical trials the
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  Speaker 2: catchment area.
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  Speaker 3: Now we have an initial eight hundred thousand kind of
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  Speaker 3: population in our system, and within the next year to
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  Speaker 3: eighteen months, we will be a top thirty nonprofit health
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  Speaker 3: system in America. Wow, which it started thirty years ago,
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  Speaker 3: which is absolutely remarkable for a state our size to
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  Speaker 3: have the quality of care the facilities. I drove by
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  Speaker 3: again early in the morning the Eye Institute you probably
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  Speaker 3: read yesterday W the W Medicine yesterday gave nine million
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  Speaker 3: dollars to the county to rebuild its health department because
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  Speaker 3: we picked up the property right behind United Bank. I
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  Speaker 3: think United Bank has kind of a little squeezed in there.
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  Speaker 3: But I am so proud of the work that W
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  Speaker 3: Medisine does. On my word, Albert Wright is a genius.
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  Speaker 3: I have the privilege of chearing both the hospital board
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  Speaker 3: and the system board, and I am amazed at the
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  Speaker 3: quality of the care the physician, the.
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  Speaker 2: Especially hospitals that we have.
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  Speaker 3: We are so fortunate to have it right in our backyard.
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  Speaker 5: A lot has happened since you were here last year
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  Speaker 5: when you had just arrived, and we'll get into some
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  Speaker 5: of those highlights, because there's been a ton especially on
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  Speaker 5: the athletic side. Easy question. First, does it feel like
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  Speaker 5: you've been here three weeks or six years?
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  Speaker 2: If you have to pick one?
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  Speaker 5: Which one of those?
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  Speaker 2: Is that we have a new dog, so in dog years,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Dame's Benny, by the way. He's a little microdoodle and
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  Speaker 3: he's the cutest little thing. So Roback is doing a
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  Speaker 3: dogline and he's gonna be one of the models.
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  Speaker 2: So back to your question, Lieutenant.
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  Speaker 3: General Howe, I really believe that, well, number one, I
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  Speaker 3: have absolutely loved my time here, and the folks in
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia are so kind and accommodating and welcoming and
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  Speaker 3: gritty and humble, and they have just kind of embraced
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  Speaker 3: us with open arms. So I feel like I've been
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  Speaker 3: here for a while, because I mean, you all feel
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  Speaker 3: like old friends, just like everybody else I've met.
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  Speaker 2: I still have a lot to learn, but you I had.
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  Speaker 3: I can't think of anything better to do than the
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  Speaker 3: fifty five county tour and seeing firsthand every single community
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  Speaker 3: and what people love about their home communities, their home counties.
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  Speaker 3: Just like in Kentucky, you refer to your as your
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  Speaker 3: home as your home county, not your city, and I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait for the future, because this is somewhere we
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  Speaker 3: could be for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: How many counties have you hit? Now?
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  Speaker 2: All fifty five?
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  Speaker 1: You did it.
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  Speaker 2: We did it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So we finished, and we had we had an algorithm
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  Speaker 3: ass how you could count a county because we drove
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  Speaker 3: through a lot of counties multiple times. But if we stopped,
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  Speaker 3: had an official gathering with the mayor, the city manager,
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  Speaker 3: the county commission or whatever, and then there had to
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  Speaker 3: be a media event because we want to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that the place we visited was highlighted as hosting this
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  Speaker 3: team from West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about me.
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  Speaker 3: It was about the president of the university, yes, coming
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  Speaker 3: to visit, but showcasing what they're proud of. And I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember what county it was, but we came in
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  Speaker 3: and there was this kind of gaggle of people on
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  Speaker 3: the sidewalk.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, what's happening? And it was this like welcome group.
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  Speaker 3: As we pulled in in Parallel Park and they had
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  Speaker 3: a gentleman on the French horn that was playing take
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  Speaker 3: Me Home, Country Roads.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the welcome music.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean it was everywhere we went, people were
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  Speaker 3: incredbly gracious. We finished down at half consolidated down on
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  Speaker 3: the kind of southwestern part of the state, and then
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  Speaker 3: we came back here to Mont County and the last
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  Speaker 3: event was lighting up the water tower. And you've heard
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  Speaker 3: me talk a lot about that one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: one feet tall that it looked terrible, had rest coming
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  Speaker 3: off the side. And when ESPN would show up and
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  Speaker 3: do the b roll footage of that water tower, I
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  Speaker 3: just cringed every time.
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  Speaker 2: I said, we got to fix that.
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  Speaker 3: So not only do we fix it, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: we have three ten foot tall wvs now that I
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  Speaker 3: can control on my phone, which my kids just think
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  Speaker 3: is ultimately like street cred one on one And so
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  Speaker 3: to the fourth of July I changed to red, but
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  Speaker 3: we'll usually do gold or blue.
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  Speaker 1: Can you stroke with that thing if you struggle after
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  Speaker 1: a win? Yeah, check and see if they're like, go
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  Speaker 1: into settings. They might have pulsate on.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I will.
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  Speaker 1: Like it would be neat like if after a win,
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  Speaker 1: things like Paul.
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  Speaker 4: Don't have to have a warning like these there's flash.
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  Speaker 3: So we got the idea for the nears of Utah.
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  Speaker 3: Remember the big block hue on the on the side
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  Speaker 3: of the hill. So when they win, it blinks.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. They had setting set Utah.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, like you're finding the salt lake.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if Utah won, if it's solid and just static,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. They lost, so blinking they want you.
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  Speaker 4: Can control it? Yes, phone, you got your phone with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah at night I can do it. Yeah, look at
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  Speaker 3: nine o'clock to night. I'll change the color.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the bats in the bat.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of wins, Country Roads is having a moment. Started
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  Speaker 5: in started in the regionals for baseball, then it extended
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  Speaker 5: into Omaha. Then it extended to the US men's soccer team.
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  Speaker 5: How great is that for branding?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Back up a few weeks to graduation.
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  Speaker 3: So I went to nine ceremonies in three days, which
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I've never done before.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I shook three ninety two hands.
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  Speaker 1: My boy over here, he would have a drum of
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  Speaker 1: hand cleaner. If he had to shake three thousand, he
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  Speaker 1: would be dipping the like kid, next kid, come in,
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  Speaker 1: dip it in the barrel. That's what he would do.
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  Speaker 3: So and I love it because every kid that every
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: excuse me, every graduate that walks across the stage is
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: a story and The highlight after they go through the
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: ceremony walk across stage is the platform party forms a
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: line and we shouldered and shoulder and we joined in
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: and sing our song.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: But that from that vantage point, you see the emotion
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: that overcomes the graduating class and.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Some of them are crying.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredibly powerful because it's the last time
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: they're going to sing as a student. And I just
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: think it's so cool that we have an anthem like that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: There is ours that now people appreciate CBS this morning
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: you saw the story that they did Connor Knight and
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I believe is his name.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: A graduate of gimb High School, and people just love it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: And I just think it's it's this unifying moment for
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: our university, in our state and as you said, Brad
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: with the soccer team for our country, but it's ours.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, When coaches take over a program, they hire their
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: coordinators and then they hire their staff. Where are you
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: right now in filling your spots in your quote unquote
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: coaching staff.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I inherited some wonderful people, Stephanie Taylor, general counsel,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Aaron new Meyer, who's our new chief of staff.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: You know Aaron?
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: She is incredibly capable. Travis Mallahanni is the best government
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: relations person I've ever worked with. You know, Gary Firby
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: with student life, Mario Barge Mario Barge over in talent culture,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: which is hr Mark Gavin is like our Swiss army knife.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: He can do a little of everything. So I had
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: a really good nucleus when I got here. Bonnie Anderson,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Amy Garbrick in my office are just top drawer.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I just love working with them every day.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I knew I needed to fill some holes, and I
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: knew I wanted to kind of shoot for the moon
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: and get the best talent we could absolutely attract here with.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: And I said it when we out went at the
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: outset the prost hires the most important hires. I was
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: going to make his president. So we did national search.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: And when the search firm called me and said, you
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: won't believe who applied today, I went back and looked.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: When I had my one year appointment at Johns Hopkins,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Beverly Wendland was the dean of the Kriger School of
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Arts and Sciences. So she signed my appointment letter as
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: dean and that when I heard her name, I thought, man,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that sounds familiar. But I lost track of she left
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Hopkins and she was the provost that washed you for
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: five years. PhD from Stanford and bio mechanical engineering. She's
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: a cell biologist. That's her undergrad at you see San Diego,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: first generation college graduate, remarkable scientist and an amazing administrator.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: And she is a lot of fun too. And she
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: loves baseball, so that's a big plus.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: She's a biomechanical background there because you work over at
• 19:21
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• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I bet you could work on some pitch. So yeah,
• 19:25
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• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that we went and when we were
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: down in Houston, we in March, we went to the
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: World Series or the World Classic to see the USA
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: play England. The two of us just went to a
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: baseball game. I had a great time together. Chriska Borrick,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: our new CFO, as you know twenty plus years at Nebraska,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: came to us from Ohio State. He's gonna be fantastic.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: We are in the process now of hiring a new
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: vice president for research, and I hope we'll have a
• 19:52
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• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Ye that's gonna be huge and a new chief technology
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: or chief information officer. That's a that's a job. We're
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: just about ready to wrap up hiring somebody. So it's
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: all about the talent around you. I've been out in
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: this a long time. I've had a good fortune of
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: building really good teams. But this is the best group
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• 20:25
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  Speaker 5: Came from it was a long time basketball official.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, and he came to me, talked to him,
• 20:31
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• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty years yeah, college level seriously, yeah, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: What's your takeaway as to where you think we're heading here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with the fact that for years now
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  Speaker 3: we have been pleading with Congress to do something. Why
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  Speaker 3: is that because we've been ineffective at the NCAA level.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe a little more effective at the conference level. But
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: it's ironic that we've been asking for this for a
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  Speaker 3: long time and then when a bill is crafted it's bipartisan.
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  Speaker 3: You have Senator Cruz on the Republican side, Senator Campwell
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  Speaker 3: on the Democratic side. And by the way, if you
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  Speaker 3: you have to have a counterpart on the other side
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  Speaker 3: of the aisle.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that it.
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  Speaker 3: Has so many co sponsors now it's gotten so far
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  Speaker 3: down the track. When, as we said before Tony, people
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  Speaker 3: no chance.
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  Speaker 2: It's an election year, biking.
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  Speaker 3: Around out of time and lo and behold, John Thuney,
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  Speaker 3: I mean even a couple of days ago, Friday, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this was Friday speaker said this, yeah, yeah, And here
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: it is Oliver Luck has been working on this present
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: gee has been very heavily evolved.
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  Speaker 2: He testified before Congress.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I wrote an offbed that ran a couple of days
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: ago in the Clarksburgh Paper that I said, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not kind of staying in the obvious. I am staying
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: in the obvious. But this is the best chance we've
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  Speaker 3: had for a federal resolution to somehow bring some semblance
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  Speaker 3: of normalcy to otherwise of her people called anarchy, which
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: is close to that where if we are we're gonna
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: have rules, we got to keep the we've got to
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: obey the rules. So I know the Big ten and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the sec have kind of been quibbling with things. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Shelby Foote, great historian, said, one of the causes of
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: the Civil War was our as Americans were very good
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: at compromise, and during that conflict we didn't compromise very much.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: We didn't do it very well.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: We are demonstrated, I believe our ingenuity when it comes
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: to compromise, because that's how you govern.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: It's not on the fringes.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It's kind of right down the middle, and both sides
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I'm sure have to give something up, but I'm very hopeful,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: and time is of the essence because the August recess
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: is on the horizon and they're gonna be gone. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: worked on the Hill twice, so I know kind of
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the cadence, if you will, of legislative years and sessions.
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  Speaker 3: But we got to get something done before they depart
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and hopefully make it over the House side after they
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• 25:57
  Speaker 4: You know, as president the I would this point.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I read the summary of the bill.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: And I thought there was excellent points in there. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I know that not everything is addressed, but as it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: saying goes, don't let the perfect be the enemy of
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: the good. And I thought it was really unfortunate that
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of people at the beginning said, as you said,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: well this bill's dead on arrival, instead of trying to
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: work towards something. And I watched the testimony and you
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: had Nick Saban saying there are no rules, and that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: kind of hyperbole. The reality is there's no enforceable rules
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: right now, right because of the way things tend. So
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it's and if the colleges can't do and Brad talks
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: about this order, if the colleges can't get together, if
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the conferences can't get together, then it's good for Congress
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: to set some framework for everybody to abide by it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I know, the big ten in the SEC I could
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: because they rule the roots. They don't necessarily want to
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: do it, but their hands should be forced on this,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I think. So I would hope that it does pass.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I have so many of questions observation it was.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I think you're exactly right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And when it first came down the pike, people, well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that's what was disappointing. Yes, and then we've talked about
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: this for years and years, and then instead of saying, look,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: this is good, this is good, let's see what we
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: work on these other things, they finally got to that point.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: But I am really credit our commissioner, brett Or Mark.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He's done a wonderful job. We have a call I
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: think tomorrow to kind of give us an update, but
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: we've been kept abreast of this for weeks, if not
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: months now, and I'm really hopeful, I really am.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: And I think right there, as you said, he's been
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: there talking, brought university presidents to Washington, he's been lobbing
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: for it. So trying to move this thing forward.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: You said the key the key phrase there though all
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: of this is good, and I'm in agreement. There needs
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: to be some sort of parameters there so you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: you have some level of certainty when it comes to
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: the dollars in particular. But if schools aren't willing to
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: follow the rules that are set or there is no
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: enforcement mechanism, then we're going to be back in the
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: same boat, guys. And at some point it's don't you
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: agree that it's got to start at the campus level
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: that schools have to say, Okay, these are the rules.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: We're not going to immediately try iron skirt around them.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: It has to start with your program, with your institution.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I think it goes then into the conference level. But
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: the fact that we are to this point where you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: bear in mind the NCAA is a membership organization. We
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: voluntarily participate in it. It was established by Teddy Roosevelt
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: or in the early nineteen oughts, after nineteen people were
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: killed playing football.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Right, and you know, the old swinging wedge, the.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Fore pass was not invented at the point of the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: time people were dying.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: He got every he got the presence of At the time,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, the major football powers were Harvard and Yale,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and Penn and Chicago and said, look, gentlemen, we got
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: to come up with something to bring some safety into
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the game but also be able to govern ourselves. So look,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not here to criticize the NCAA. It's had it's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: fits and starts, but I'm sanguine. I'm very optimistic.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: And the key provision for the key provisions is the
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: anti trust provision in there that would say if the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: if the NCAA or whatever governing bought he is involved here,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: if it has rules, then it has some protection from
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: just a judge somewhere saying well, you don't have to
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: follow the rule.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you find a friendly judge in your
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: home county, we don't need to relitigate what's happened in Texas.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: But you're exactly right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Don't you think, though, with all that being said, the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: history of college sports, just the human nature of people,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that there is going to be people that break the rules? Yes, right,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's just so I think this is just kind of
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like we know people will still break them, where you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: just going to try to do a little bit better
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of tightening things up.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Who is the coach that said, if you ain't cheating
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you ain't trying. Yeah, and it's not just college athletics.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I mean when we lived to Kentucky, we saw it
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: in horse racing. You see it in pro football. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: mean you see it in life exactly.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And that's why.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is unfortunate, but I think it is human nature.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: You want to have an advantage over your opponent. But
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: there's a lot to be said for these are the rules.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: We're going to abide by the we're going to stay
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: within the limits that they're set. The uncertainty of it
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: has allowed for this, Oh how big is how how
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: much is the cap? And we're going to exceed it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So it does worry me that they're now talking about
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the cap meaning higher.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, and so you will still.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Have another potential twenty million into a pore.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: That so via the retention pool for those that no,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: so your revenue share stays and a retention pool comes
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: in to make the cap. You're not quite at fifty,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: but you're you're closing in off it. So let's take that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: How do you feel West Virginia's positioned if that were
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: to go through, which it looks like we're headed that direction.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: How do you feel West Virginia's positioned moving forward into
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: the future.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I can only speak for our university. I can't tell
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: you what other ones in the conference are doing. You've
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: got private schools where nothing's kind of known. There's kind
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: of a black box. But we certainly know what Texas
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Tech is doing. I come back to the fact that
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: tech that West Virginia, with the resources we have, gets
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: a lot out.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Of our programs and we punch above our weight class.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I was so proud of the World Series. I hope
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: we have a chance to talk a bit about it.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: But we're in that final four and remember the flags
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: out front. You lose it, various ceremonies to your flag
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: gets lowered, somber.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: But uh, I went out there.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Uh that morning the four flags left Texas, Oklahoma, North Carolina,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: West Virginia.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah we were there.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: We were there.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Both and we're going back.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: And you know, I'm no savant, but remember the kicking
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the baseball first pitch dinner or.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Whatever it's called. Yeah, he got after me, feeding in
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the corn than the popcorn. Remember we sat together, We
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: sat together.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It was an attack. I don't think it was necessary.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Do you remember all that? But I remember
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: they had a little panel there.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: You went to the.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Dinner after that, after that's foggy.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You need to hang around him more, can I do?
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I see him all the time. He's everywhere. Everywhere we go,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: he's there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: You need your solid security number, he'll give it to you.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Continue side tracked you.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, at the dinner, they had a little panel discussion,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: and I predict, I said, the coach that's going to
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: get there. Yes, Oliver Luck, Ken Kendrick, Randy Mazey built
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: the program, but Steve Stabs is the guy that's going
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: to get us there now. I had no idea it
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: was going to be within ten months. But want to
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: run for our university. Unbelievable. I know you all had
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: a blast.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And I had so much fun. Though.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Let's let's talk about that because you you had been
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: there just the year before with Coastal, but we said
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: that I had been there a couple of times, but
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: it had been thirty years ago. I had really high
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: expectations for the event.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It blew through all.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Of my expectations. That's as good an event as I've
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: been to in my my forty years around college sports.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: And Omaha is just hardwired to host it. And do
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it exceptionally well.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: The layout, the hotels being close by, the restaurants, all
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the gathering spots. Now, what was the place where we
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: had the events all the time?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Let it fly, Let it fly sports.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: You know I used the limescooters to get around. Did
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: you really get a word? They're a blast.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: There's so much fun.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: The only problem is they're kind of geo fence, like
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: you can't get close to the st so you have to.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: On the ground.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Do you say you're on the side or do you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: just like most people? No, not with yours.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I'm very orderly because you have to take up against
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a tree or no, you have.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: To take a photo of it and it won't turn
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: off your rental cycle until you do an appropriate photograph.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Appropriate photograph.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I like that. You know there's a great there's a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: great sushi place there in Omaha.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I heard that. I don't go there the country.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I wasn't for sushi. I want a little state there,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: President Benson.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, we had a wonderful go.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: To the world famous sushi place.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: The off day we went to we went to Lincoln
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and went and saw Uhn and I got to see
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the Savannah Bananas, which was great fun.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: You guys did go up there, but we toured their facilities.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Chris had been there a long time, so they were
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Troy Dannon is a good friend of Ren, and he
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: could not have been nicer. But we also went to
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the Strategic Air Command Museum because I love planes. Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and you walk in and here is a s R
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: seventy one suspended from the ceiling and we had as there.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Now, how cool is this? Talk about follow up?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I posted something on x about going there and I
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: had a picture of our team.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: The director of development for the museum wrote me a
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: handwritten card saying thank you for the shout out on
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: social media. Yeah, we loved having you and hope you
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: enjoyed your time in o Mah Museum.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Across the bridge. That bridge, where's that was that nice?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: It's the our DECKO it's the station.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: That was a great It was recommended by a gentleman
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: when we were having coffee that you should attend that
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: because of your interest in aviation.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Get all do next year.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but soon that video that w Ren has when
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they were flying somewhere over the middle of the country,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: this year, and those stelts were underneath coming back, they
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: were underneath them. That's great video.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Here's here's something about the president. I do recall from
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: March trip. So the President I were talking out there
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and he's talking about the Strategic Museum and I thought
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I'd like to go there.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I like to go to museums.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: I said, I don't know how to get there in
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: The President said, we'll take my car.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: But well he could have offered you a scooter.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: That's the long way.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that went a long trip right out of the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: GEO Hoppy read your book?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: All right, how about the two of you?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Are you working on that? Now? That's not that's easy,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that's not an how many can I ask you a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: couple of questions about your book?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Total pages is what?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Well the footnotes sorry without the end notes is about
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty pages of pros And.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That's a big book.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Well, it was one hundred and sixty five thousand words
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I wrote in ten months.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that was where I wanted to get to next. Yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: when you write something like that, like how do you
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: how often were you were you putting your head down
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and writing?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: So this was kind of a little a bit of
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: an aberration because it was the COVID year. I had
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: a sabbatical after my presidency at Eastern Kentucky, Okay.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So it's not like I was Yeah, No, I had
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: done some research.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I'd spent two summers, one at Yale in the archives,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: and a couple at Johns Hoppins. Ironically, the the library
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: at Hopkins is the Milton Eisenhower Library, so that's Dwight
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Eisenhower's your brother, who was the president of Kansas State
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and of Johns Hopkins twice. So I had done a
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: lot of the research. So COVID hits. I have a sabbatical.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I had the library to myself. Nobody else was in there,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: and I would get there about seven o'clock in the morning,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: and I'd stay until six or seven at night, go home,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: have dinner with my family, and then i'd come back
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: the next day kind of.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Rinse the repeat.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I'd kind of edit what I had written the day before, and,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: like I said, in ten months, one hundred and sixty
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: five thousand words.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Happy. Some thoughts on the book.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and by the way, the name of the
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: book is Daniel Koit Gilman and the Birth of the
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: American Research University. And the I think there's a lot
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: of fascinating parts about this. One is that you didn't
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: start out to write about him. You start out to
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: write about JOHNS. Hopkins, and then in investigating JOHNS Hopkins,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: which became a primary research institutionist country, then that led
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: you to Gilman.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Correct, so correct, Yeah, I always want to you're You're right.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I've always been fascinated with Hopkins. But you can't have
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: a history of the university, which by the way, is
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: celebrates one hundred and fiftyth anniversary this year without its
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: founding president, who by the way, was the third president
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: of Niversity of California.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: And I joked with Bradle he looks like a Civil
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: War general. I like to look, Brad.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But he was named president when the regents actually named
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: George McClellan president of the University of California, and people
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: were in such an uproar because they didn't like the
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: fact that he ran against Abraham Lincoln in the.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: He's still laughing about them, Lieutenant, I think president.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: But so anyway, when he goes to California, and with this,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: he knew that the University of California needed professional schools
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: and engineering education and medicine. But they didn't have the
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: resources just to start from scratching medical school. So there's
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: a surgeon in San Francisco named Hugh Toland who was
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: a graduate of Transylvania University, which was founded in seventeen
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: ninety nine produced sixteen hundred physicians in America, and he
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: had moved from wester Kentucky all the way out to California,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: sets up his surgerical practice, but also starts his own
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: college of medicine, the Toland College of Medicine. Gilman goes
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: to him and says, the people of California need a
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: medical school. We want you to donate your medical school
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: to the state. He said, I'll do it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: But I want it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I want it named for me. Give my name on it. Yeah,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you know, Donor's like their names on this stuff.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Sure absolutely.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Gilman said, no, it doesn't belong to you. It belongs
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: to the people of California. Think about California's found in
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: eighteen fifty. It is like Paradise. People in industrial cities
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: of America go west and it's like nothing that I've
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: ever seen. And he said, this belongs to the state.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: This has to belong to the people. So he kind
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: of hems in Hawes mister doctor Tolan does. He finally
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: acquiesces donates lock Stock a barrel beautiful college of medicine
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: to the state eight. Guess what it turns into the
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: University of California at San Francisco, Wow, which now has
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: an eight billion dollar budget and has produced eight Nobela rates.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: And the only you know.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Of the Mississippi was the biggest medical school for years.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. So that kind of vision of Gilman is
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: what I was really fascinating.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I think the significance and I'd like you to talk
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: about this, and Tony, when you think of major universities,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: you think, well, where does research get done in this country?
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Major universities, right, But it wasn't always so up until Gilman,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: universities were just like wrote, repeat, here's the knowledge that
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: is known, and learn all this knowledge that is known,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: and you can elaborate on this miss present. Is that
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Gilman's vision was no, take the knowledge, but also expand
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the knowledge and do the research, which set the tone
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: for the university system in this country. And that's what
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: fascinated you. I'm making a statement, but you can elaborate
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: So a guy named Jonathan Cole, who is the prost
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: to Columbia, wrote a book called the Great American University
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: White So Unique and Why it should be preserved and expanded,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: and he in his preface he goes through this laundry
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: list of developments that you and I take for granted
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: every day. The algorithm for Google, Stanford University, the nicotine
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: patch UCLA, Vitamin's A and D University Wisconsin, congestion pricing,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: University of Chicago, fetal monitoring Columbia, and all of these things,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: like you said, have come off of research universities developed
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: by faculty with their graduate students. They get perfected, they
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: get monetized, they get applied, and every day we take
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: it for granted. And that is the secret society. I
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: think the secret sauce of the American economy is the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: ingenuity that's float off of our university campuses, including West Virginia.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: And one other thing related to West virgin University is
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: that is that in Gilman's vision, as you wrote about extensively,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: is that they're more than just a place where people learn.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: You talked about the research aspect, but they have a
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: larger responsibility. And I don't think any university is more
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: indicative of that than WVU, Brad, because WVU is what
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: is the state. The state is WVU, and there is
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: a larger mission at a place like WVU beyond educating
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: students and research. It has a responsibility to a greater
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: good of the state. Right, you've seen that, and President,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you would agree that's part of this mission
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: of the university.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Right, and think about it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: We're found in eighteen sixty seven, two years after the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Civil War, kind of fledgling, a lot of land grand
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: institutions established at the time. But look what we've gone
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: into now, a presence in all fifty five counties.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: And you're exactly right, Ian. We've helped to.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Eliminate health deserts now through our clinics, our hospitals, our
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: outpatient facilities, through w medicine. We make a difference, I believe,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: every single day, absolutely in the life of the state
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: and the life of our citizens.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bigger than just this campus. Huge. Let's jump
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: into your most recent announcement, like a massive research announcement
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: us through in I'm not that smart, so walk me
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: through like I'm a sixth grader what that means.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: So two three years ago the National Science Foundation established
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: what they called.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Engines.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: So the engines are in different categories biomedical, bioad technology, energy,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I'm missing a couple. But they put out these kind
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: of requests for proposals for universities even companies to apply
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: for these big block grants. So before I got here,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Arian Olesh, who's remarkable, one of our PhDs students from
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: a long time ago, a faculty remember she's just top drawer,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: she put together this team to apply for an engine
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: grant focused on not energy production, but energy transmission and
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the efficiency of our grid system. And as you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: we are energy dependent as a kind, but this we
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: are state rich in terms of the state where energy
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: rich right here in West Virginia. So together with Pitt
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and Carnegie Mellon, we all three of us submitted proposals
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: kind of unique to our particular areas of expertise, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: our proposal was accepted as the lead what they call
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: the principal investigator, with Carnegie Mellon and Pitt as the copis.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a big deal.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Both of those institutions are members of the Association of
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: American universities very prolific production in R and D and
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: research and development. So we submitted three hundred applications were submitted.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: It got windowed down to I think twenty, and then
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: they decided to come on site visits to fifteen. Our
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: initial visit was in January when the end of Day's
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: storm hit us, you remember that one, and so we
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: had to postpone. And so we were the last of
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: the fifteen that were visited. And it went swimmingly. I mean,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: the President of car Mellen came down for the day,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Joan Gable, the Chancellor Pitt had a call in. Roger Hanshaw,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Speaker of the House, was supportive. He called in via zoom.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: He was terrific, and we made our best case and
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: we felt pretty good about our chances. But lo and behold,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Arion went out by the way and also got one
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty one million dollars of additional funding corporations, foundations,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: private partners. That was the biggest amount that ever anybody
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: else brought to the table. So it was announced two
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: weeks ago that we were one of twelve recipients of
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: that industrant one hundred and sixty million from the federal
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: government one hundred and sixty million, three hundred and twenty
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: one million dollars total, the biggest ever. Now it's ober
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: ten year period. It comes in tranches. They come and
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: check on us and make sure we're doing what we
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: said we're going to do. But this is a signal
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: moment for our university that we're showing people that we
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: can handle a grant in this size, that we have
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: the infrastructure, and what predated the announcement you may have heard,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Johns Hopkins got so interested in what we're doing.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: They came and visited us in January or.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: December of last year that they kicked in five million
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: dollars from the foundation to do joint research projects with.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Our faculty and their faculty.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: And they told us we're really good at research. They
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: did four point one billion last year. They've led the
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: country for forty two years in a row. Will help
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: you build out the post grant infrastructure and what you
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: need to handle a grant in the size. So all
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: the stars are aligning right now for the university athletically, academically,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: in terms of our research profile. And this is a
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: really big deal. This is a huge I can't say
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: enough good about Ariane and her team. It was all
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: their hard work. Center Capitol came to the reception in Washington,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: d C. Her team was terrific. Got support from the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Governor Center of Justice as well. But a wonderful moment.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: For our state.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: So it's a huge it's a game changer.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It is a game changer.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: And that's not high hyperbole.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I mean we tend to talk and be a little
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: dramatic at times in academia. You know, they're no issues
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: too big, too small to blow out of proportion. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: this is this is a seminal moment for our university
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: that we'll look back and say July twenty twenty six
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: is when things really changed.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic, that's good.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: What are you doing? What do you need to do
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: to keep Renn Baker here?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: We have We have done many things to tell ren
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: how valued he is and how.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Much we appreciate all he does. Number One, he's become
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a really good friend.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I just like hanging out with run. He's a lot
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: of fun. I love his southern drawl, I love his
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: kind of idiot idiosyncrasies. And he's a really good ad
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and people in the country respect him. He's hired some
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: terrific coaches. Look at the fundraising he's done. Golden Blue.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Don's doing a terrific job. Don Robinson, Don Robinson. All
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: the staff his staff is really good too. I mean
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: he's hired some really terrific people. And the stadium project.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: When we out off after our last from game, that's
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: going to be another game change, do you.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ren's got a lot of good qualities, he's
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: got some. You got a big fault, one big fault.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Are you on his team about this? Yeah? What do
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you think on that deal? I know what he wants
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to say, But like, when you sit down, would you
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I mean a red sauce and a white sauce? Which
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: one would you?
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Your answer?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Do not?
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: I don't think you need to direct because he's hosting
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: the program. Do not be bullied by his thoughts. He
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: tried to muddy the pool right there to the witnessed
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: the witness so you certainly take your own thoughts and
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: and articulate.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You don't have asked if you went to a restaurant
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and you had the option of one of those too,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: which one would you order? That's all.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Alfredo's a little rich for my blood.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: So there's nothing better than the bolonaise for me.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: So that has the meat in it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, you don't need to order meatballs, correct, but you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: can if you want, if you want, won't. We have
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a guy that tried to order bowlon AI's and meatballs
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: on the side of the waiter wouldn't give him the meatballs,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he said, the new he said made. He said no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not getting and.
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  Speaker 5: We said we're we just want to meet.
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  Speaker 1: I want meat, he said getting.
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  Speaker 5: He says, how much meat?
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  Speaker 1: You? How much meat? Where was this?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't wasn't making the orderbody knows that it was
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  Speaker 2: a car. We want to forget, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Forgale was the guy that tried to order the
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  Speaker 1: meatballs with the ball and as does he have Italian
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's deep in Italian things.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, stuff, We wanted meatballs with the meat. That's that's
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  Speaker 5: our choice. We were the cuss anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So Wren has really gummed up the thing, I think
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  Speaker 1: on a national level now with this, with this Alfredo
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  Speaker 2: It's certainly got a lot of play. Though you all
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  Speaker 2: talk about all the time.
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  Speaker 5: It's officially on the menu. Now it is officially on
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  Speaker 5: the menu listed as Renfredo.
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  Speaker 2: It's there.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, yeah, you're right. I mean you're
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: you're on top of it with him game chain.
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  Speaker 3: Oh he's terrific and I just like I said, I
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: enjoy hanging out with him. I watched the report he
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: has with our coaches and the student athletes. I mean,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: he just has a way about him that he gets it.
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  Speaker 3: He's very well respected in our conference and nashally.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna keep him here. I'll promise you that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, good, all right, So I break down the too
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  Speaker 5: deep with us for football here at start next week.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I want spreads on the staff because.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Probably we're efforting right now. The over under shows are
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: under production. A couple of excited about football.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how excited I am about football
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: and the fact that we get to host my former
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: school and I have tremendous friends there.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: We had a wonderful time. But inside those white lines,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: it is all.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: It's good time.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good time.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: So we're gonna host a little event for him on
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Saturday morning with our our folks and some coastal people.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: But it's gonna be a fun season.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Sort you're looking forward to three before the game get moved.
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  Speaker 4: Beg your pardon, I was asking Tony, Well, the OU
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  Speaker 1: Moved because they're gonna let you play on zero now
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  Speaker 1: going forward. Okay, so you have that last.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Week of all it's not mid July.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: As well, it'll get there.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: So you play week zero and then you have another
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: off week.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Can you can play week zero starting next year? Yeah?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: So they moved it. Okay, yeah, so I think it
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: will give you two. We'll give you two off weeks now,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's I believe that's what it'll do. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I think the processed food is what caused my problem.
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  Speaker 3: passed him in about the last ten meters. Ran a
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  Speaker 3: seven thirty one mile and a half. So, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 4: Do what Josh Kerr did. Josh Kerr broke the mile record.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, three two and he didn't even look winded.
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  Speaker 1: No Irish guy, Yes I believe he was.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but how about the guy that ran the
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's unbelievable.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: So my best marathion time was two forty one. I
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  Speaker 3: was eighteen qualified for Boston, ran Boston. But that those
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• 53:52
  Speaker 1: You've done a lot like you, just like without and
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• 53:59
  Speaker 1: like you opped in like I worked on the hill twice,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a right, worked on the hill twice, like You've been around.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I've been given wonderful opportunities and people have given me chances,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: and I'm very grateful.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Like we haven't gone farther than Goshen Road or start
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: or saber to like, that's where we are, that's where
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: we're just hanging here, that's what we do, and like
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: you're you've been all over the place twice.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I've had, Like I said, I've been to five
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: of see. I've got two more continents to see South
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: America and Antarctica. And I've never been to South America.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: So Wren keeps talking about we may do a basketball
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: game or even a football game down there.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I wish South America.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I wish you wouldn't have said that. I mean, you
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: know what you just did to the message board people.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Now those poor bodies, they're going to start tracking planes.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be out there to get hot balloons out there,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: weather balloons. Where's the thing? Where's Ren going to get
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the tail number? Where did Ren go? Ren was in Galveston, Texas?
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: So that must mean that they're gonna play like in Warez.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know where we're going.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I retract that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say it now, but no, I think that's
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