Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Berry Springs Tavern owner Ian Sloan says business owners, who attended a community meeting yesterday are fed up with the youth justice system
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now we know that a lot of Territorians are fed
- 0:02Speaker 1: up with crime. You can certainly hear that when you
- 0:05Speaker 1: listen to the show each day, and yesterday about thirty
- 0:08Speaker 1: business owners and operators gathered in Yarawanga to voice their concerns.
- 0:12Speaker 1: One of them's Ian Sloane, the owner of the Berry
- 0:14Speaker 1: Springs tavern, who you would have heard on the show
- 0:17Speaker 1: last Friday after his business was ram rated. Good morning
- 0:20Speaker 1: to you, Ian.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Good a, Katie, how are you today?
- 0:23Speaker 1: Not too bad? Tell me how did that meeting go yesterday?
- 0:29Speaker 2: I think it went really well, Katie. As you said,
- 0:31Speaker 2: it was about thirty businesses represented from the Palmerston and
- 0:35Speaker 2: sort of rural area and it was good to sort
- 0:38Speaker 2: of get our stories out there and credible attention to
- 0:41Speaker 2: what we've had to deal with over the last couple
- 0:43Speaker 2: of months, couple of years really and try and get
- 0:45Speaker 2: some results, hopefully out of these from the government.
- 0:49Speaker 1: And so what were the businesses basically saying yesterday at
- 0:54Speaker 1: that meeting? Slowly, from what you could gather.
- 0:57Speaker 2: I think that the overwhelming consensus, well, everybody's set up
- 1:01Speaker 2: and they've set up that there's no consequences. So these people,
- 1:05Speaker 2: they're set up that the justice system appears to be
- 1:08Speaker 2: flawed and it just seems to be easy for fenders
- 1:11Speaker 2: to get back out of the streets. I think they're
- 1:13Speaker 2: set up with hearing about kids, not even kids, but
- 1:16Speaker 2: even adults reoffending, you know, having an ankle, bracelets on,
- 1:20Speaker 2: and then be back out on the straight, you know,
- 1:22Speaker 2: several times getting caught and then there's no consequences. I
- 1:26Speaker 2: think we're all fed up about hearing about the rights offenders,
- 1:29Speaker 2: and you know, we'd like to hear a bit more
- 1:31Speaker 2: about what's going to happen to the victims, because it
- 1:35Speaker 2: all seems to be geared up towards the offenders. You know, well,
- 1:38Speaker 2: I would love to know how much money we spend
- 1:39Speaker 2: on legal representation for these people and they diverge in
- 1:42Speaker 2: programs and all the other things that come along with it.
- 1:45Speaker 2: And you know, at the end of the day, we
- 1:47Speaker 2: get offered seven hundred and fifty dollars victims of crime
- 1:50Speaker 2: payment and to drop in the ocean for all we
- 1:52Speaker 2: went three on Friday. Yeah, I think the main thing is,
- 1:55Speaker 2: I think we're all fed up just it's all about
- 1:57Speaker 2: the offenders and it's not about the victims.
- 1:59Speaker 1: And that's ralic and tell me how are things going
- 2:02Speaker 1: since you guys were ran righted towards the end of
- 2:05Speaker 1: last week.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Really good? Yeah, I think that the girls are continuing
- 2:11Speaker 2: to get all the support they need. I think they're
- 2:13Speaker 2: booked back work today. And then they came up and
- 2:15Speaker 2: see me this morning before she left, and oh they're
- 2:17Speaker 2: a bit nervous not coming back to work, but the
- 2:19Speaker 2: good plenty to support around them. I would say, one thing, like,
- 2:23Speaker 2: the one good positive thing comes out of these things
- 2:25Speaker 2: is the amount of support we've received from not just
- 2:28Speaker 2: the community, the other local businesses. We would have had
- 2:31Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of text messages, emails and calls. People
- 2:35Speaker 2: just coming into the pub on Sunday and say, you know,
- 2:37Speaker 2: we just wanted to come in and stick a few
- 2:38Speaker 2: dollars in your toil and just to support you. And
- 2:41Speaker 2: you know some of those businesses like Hawkins and Clements
- 2:44Speaker 2: they dropped us off some big concrete blocks on Monday
- 2:47Speaker 2: morning to help secure our bottle shop, which is great.
- 2:49Speaker 2: They didn't have to do that. Amazing man Jimmy Sherey's
- 2:51Speaker 2: offered them to take the girls out for dinner at
- 2:53Speaker 2: Hanneman give them a volt experience. So all of that
- 2:56Speaker 2: stuff's really overwhelming, and you know, it just restores a
- 2:59Speaker 2: bit of safe and.
- 2:59Speaker 1: You amount, it really does. Hey, And I always I always
- 3:03Speaker 1: think that in here that so often, you know, we
- 3:05Speaker 1: hear about these really terrible situations like we spoke to
- 3:09Speaker 1: you about on Friday morning. But then the thing that
- 3:11Speaker 1: always makes me feel better about this place is the
- 3:14Speaker 1: way that Territorians rally together and support each other when
- 3:17Speaker 1: you do go through those those bad situations present.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Katie, you know, we're lucky. We live in the most
- 3:23Speaker 2: beautiful place in the world. And I feel on our
- 3:25Speaker 2: broper help for us to have brought our kids up
- 3:27Speaker 2: in Darwin and especially in the rural areas. It's a
- 3:30Speaker 2: beautiful place. And I came here in twenty five years
- 3:32Speaker 2: ago for a six week holiday and you know, I'm
- 3:34Speaker 2: still here. We're so lucky, we're still blessed for what
- 3:37Speaker 2: we have, and it's just a shame that, you know,
- 3:40Speaker 2: a few people are destroying it for the rest of us.
- 3:42Speaker 2: But yeah, meetings, I guess to sort of keep our
- 3:46Speaker 2: story and the public eye and hopefully the people who
- 3:49Speaker 2: can make make decisions can hear what we're saying and
- 3:53Speaker 2: actually act on it. You know, they have to.
- 3:56Speaker 1: I really think that it's reached the point where they
- 3:58Speaker 1: have to. You know, people are are not only fed up,
- 4:01Speaker 1: but they're feeling really disillusioned at this point in time,
- 4:04Speaker 1: and disheartened and you know, and just sort of really
- 4:09Speaker 1: sad about the whole situation.
- 4:13Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. And I just said to
- 4:17Speaker 2: you on Friday, I just really like the powers that
- 4:20Speaker 2: they just to come out and talk to us and
- 4:22Speaker 2: here our stories and see what we're living through and
- 4:26Speaker 2: hopefully that's enough to change and the way they've gone
- 4:28Speaker 2: about their business, because what they're doing at the moment,
- 4:31Speaker 2: it isn't working. And as I said on Friday, it's
- 4:33Speaker 2: not the fault of the police. The police are doing
- 4:35Speaker 2: a fantastic job that you couldn't ask any walks in
- 4:38Speaker 2: the police. But it's just the follow up afterwards. It's
- 4:40Speaker 2: letting it all down. And I think that's what we'd
- 4:43Speaker 2: like to see fixed.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I can you tell me has there been any follow
- 4:47Speaker 1: up from the government after what had happened and that
- 4:50Speaker 1: shocking vision for you guys from Thursday morning Friday morning.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've had them. Department of the Business came
- 4:58Speaker 2: out on Monday to talk to us about being secure
- 5:01Speaker 2: and only has got a meeting this morning with them
- 5:04Speaker 2: Chief and ass Department, so we'll see what comes out
- 5:07Speaker 2: of that as well. So yeah, they're helping. Contact made
- 5:10Speaker 2: to us. And you know a lot of those politicians
- 5:12Speaker 2: have also picked out and said, you know, thinking of you,
- 5:14Speaker 2: which is is I suppose that most of the politicians
- 5:17Speaker 2: are are really nice people, but I just I just
- 5:20Speaker 2: don't think some of them get at the moment. They
- 5:22Speaker 2: just they really need to get out of their offices
- 5:25Speaker 2: and see what's happening on the streets.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Ian Sloan, I appreciate you having a chat with us
- 5:30Speaker 1: this morning, and and you know, I think that what
- 5:33Speaker 1: you're saying is certainly something that a lot of others
- 5:36Speaker 1: are feeling, is one hundred percent correct. At this point
- 5:38Speaker 1: in time, there needs to be some action. There needs
- 5:41Speaker 1: to be some change. People can't continue on this path. Mate.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I'm glad that everybody is going well also at Barry
- 5:50Speaker 1: Springs and that the girls are doing all right too.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Thanks for Donna. Can I just
- 5:56Speaker 2: say thanks to Donad from Empty Handrails for organizing that
- 5:58Speaker 2: yesterday and all start sort of short notice them and
- 6:01Speaker 2: I had several people I worked last night and there
- 6:02Speaker 2: were several people said to me up there known about it,
- 6:04Speaker 2: they would have attended. Yes. Phone calls this morning as
- 6:07Speaker 2: well from people saying, you know, if we'd known that
- 6:09Speaker 2: was on, we would have come along. You see, So
- 6:11Speaker 2: I think a lot of there was only thirty odd businesses, sure,
- 6:14Speaker 2: I BSc, which was great. I think there would have
- 6:16Speaker 2: been a lot more with a bit more time and
- 6:19Speaker 2: a bit more advertising. But yeah, definitely, I was quite
- 6:23Speaker 2: surprised last how many people reached out for me and
- 6:25Speaker 2: said they would have. Yeah.
- 6:27Speaker 1: I've got a message that's even come through this morning
- 6:29Speaker 1: and it said, morning Katie, when you speak to Ian
- 6:31Speaker 1: Sign about yesterday's meeting, can you please mention that a
- 6:34Speaker 1: lot more business owners would have come to have our
- 6:36Speaker 1: say and support them if we'd known it was happening.
- 6:38Speaker 1: So yeah, you spot on. I reckon you would have.
- 6:41Speaker 1: You'd have more people there. But look, unless there's action,
- 6:44Speaker 1: I've no doubt that that there'll probably be another one.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, yeah, I hope so.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Good on you. I thank you, thanks so much for
- 6:53Speaker 1: your time this morning