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  Hey there, everybody, it's Jeff. We are recording this on Tuesday,
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  November fourteenth, twenty twenty three. By the time you hear this, some
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  things may have changed, but we hope you enjoy the show. All right,
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  everybody, you're listening to Opposition Territory here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast
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  show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, that's
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  ready for ten and a half years strong. But we got a great discussion
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  come in your way as we get ready for this Philadelphia Eagles in Kansas City
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  Chiefs game. My goodness, this is possibly a precursor to the next Super
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  Bowl. Yes, will these teams meet again in the Super Bowl. We're
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  gonna learn a lot about these various matchups, not just this coming Monday night.
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  Yes this is a Monday night game. But we're gonna learn a lot
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  during this conversation right now with our guests. So let's just get right to
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  it. And it is great to have in the show for the very first
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  time, coming to us from the Believe Podcast Network, and he's got a
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  lot of other great content that he's putting out on the interwebs. We've got
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  again, like I said, from the Blieve Podcast Network. Jeff for dootin.
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  How are you doing, buddy, and thanks so much for joining us
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  for a preview show here doing well? Thanks so much for having me on,
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  Jeff. We've got a real exciting, juicy matchup here, just to
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  break down and discuss absolutely. I mean, as I said in the intro,
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  you know this could potentially be a Super Bowl rematch and I cannot wait
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  to get into this discussion with you. But beforehand, I know you're doing
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  some stuff on the interwebs out there with Forbes. Tell everybody where they can
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  find your content out there, Jeff. Yeah. Thanks. In addition to
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  Believe in Chiefs with Joe Valerio, the former Chiefs offensive lineman, my great
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  co host, I also write for Forbes. I cover predominantly the Chiefs for
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  them and other NFL topics. So yeah, definitely check it out. All
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  right, sounds good. Well let's get into this preview show. And I
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  think I think many of us are thinking this week's game, like I said,
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  could potentially be a Super Bowl preview. Both teams are just powerhouses within
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  their conferences. Jeff. And you know Nick Sirianni. He's two and one
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  coming off of bye week. Andy Reid, who we know all too well
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  in Philadelphia, is twenty one and three, which is certainly certainly impressive.
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  So I'm wondering, you know, when you're looking at this game, you're
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  looking at what it possibly means. What do you think the consequences of this
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  game are going to be? Say if you had a crystal ball, what
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  are the consequences of this game going to be for these teams? I think
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  the concert Listen, both these teams win or lose this game. Both these
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  teams are going to be in great shape. They're going to be contending for
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  a super Bowl. So I mean, but I really think the stanks for
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  Actually Evan's going to talk about, you know, it's a Super Bowl rematch,
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  and you know, motivation for the Eagles to get revengement, But really
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  the motivation I think is actually seeding. You know, the Eagles, Eagles
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  are have the best record in the NFL, but as you know, they
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  have a very tough schedule coming up. And the Chiefs also have the best
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  record in the AFC. But you know, if they get the number one
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  seed, they go through Arrowhead Stadium, as they basically have for the all
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  of Patrick Mahomes' ten years of starting quarterback, you really like their chances.
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  But if they don't, if they if they have to go on the road,
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  which Mahomes hasn't done, hasn't had to do during his starter, then
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  maybe that's a little bit more challenging. So I think that throw out all
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  the juicy subplots. That's probably the biggest consequence of this game. Yeah,
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  I would absolutely agree with you too. And I really want to talk about
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  this Chiefs team and what we're going to be seeing is Philadelphia Eagles fans because
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  it's a different team of course them what we saw in the Super Bowl.
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  I mean the Chiefs. Like from an offensive perspective, Jeff, the Chiefs
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  offense isn't necessarily hitting on all cylinders, as many of us know during this
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  twenty twenty three twenty four NFL season, and no doubt there's still a top
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  team in this league as we're talking about here, Yet they still need to
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  clean up some things offensively. So what do you say to the folks out
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  there who say that Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey they just can't do it by
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  themselves without a complimentary and solid wide receiver corps you know, especially within this
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  offense that's been you know, sputtering every now and then. How do you
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  assess this and what do you say to those folks? Right? And it
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  is a factor. I mean if you look at you know, two years
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  ago, they lose Tyreek Hill, You've been one of the great receivers in
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  the game of a guy who's a future Hall of Famer, and then last
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  year they lost Juju Smith Schuster he was had a very good Super Bowl against
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  Eagles, or from the receiver position, he was their leading receiver. So
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  it's pretty hard to just do that. And now they add McCole, Harmon
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  back who's been with the team for a bit. But other than that,
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  all the receivers, no one's been there longer than two years. So it's
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  a young crew. It's they've got some depth, but no no real stars.
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  So that is a factor. But that's you know, nobody's perfect and
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  that's kind of the weakness at least if that's the weakness they have, you
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  know, Patrick Mahomes throwing to them. Yeah, yeah, that's no doubt
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  that. That's we're halfway through the season. I think they will continue to
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  get better, especially Rashi Rice's rookie has looked good. I think he'll continue
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  to get better. But you're halfway through the season. You kind of are
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  what you are at this point to some degree. Yeah, I mean I
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  do wonder about the chemistry between Patrick Mahomes and some of these receivers, whether
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  it's you know, sky Moore, whether it is Rice who you just mentioned,
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  Like, is that like, do you see it coming together at all?
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  That chemistry that on the field. You know, I know that I'm
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  going to be able to trust this guy a little bit more as we're moving
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  on week by week. Are you seeing that at all? Jeff? The
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  one the one is the guy that you can see it coming along as the
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  one you just mentioned is Rashi Rice. That you see there's a build for
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  each of the each of the weeks. Other than that, he really seems
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  to trust Justin Watson, who hey, uh pen guy, you know,
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  a local guy who's who's not the most talented of the world, but he's
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  like consistent, he'll run the right routes, he's faster than people think.
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  So that's the guy that he clearly has trusted. I don't know if that's
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  necessarily building. I think that's been more of a consistent thing. But if
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  there's a guy that's been building, it's been uh Rashi Rice. The other
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  guy's mvs. Vell. The scandaling has been a real question mark. He's
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  like, he's really quiet, then I'll have a big game and then it'll
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  be quiet for a few more game. Same kind of with sky Moore and
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  Hious tone. I don't see like a bill. I'm not saying that.
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  You know, it still could happen, but you're not You're not necessarily seeing
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  a progression with those guys. They were really the guy I was most interested
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  when was justin Ross. But of course he's now on the exempt list too,
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  so he's out of the equation. McCole. Horman's now back, but
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  he hasn't been great as receivers since they've brought him back, but he certally
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  brings a lot of speed. Yeah, it's interesting to see where this chemistry
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  is right now as we are heading into this second half of the season with
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  the Chiefs, and you know, with regard to Patrick Mahomes and his receiving
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  corps. But let's move on to the defensive side of things here, Jeff,
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  because look, you know the Chiefs, you know kind of surprising a
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  little bit to me, even though there's certainly a talented crew. Chiefs have
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  a top five defense this year. In fact, they're ranked number four overall
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  in total defense. I mean, they are a powerhouse from a defensive perspective.
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  Here they're only allowing one hundred and seventy six total passing yards on average
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  per game. Do you see this being a game where the Eagles are really
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  going to need to utilize the running game more or do you think A J.
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  Brown and DeVante Smith are really gonna challenge the Chiefs defensive backs all game
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  this coming Monday. That's the great question and kind of the main question for
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  this part of these The Chiefs defense have been has been so good. They've
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  got really really good corners. Trent McDuffie's playing at a whole Pro Bowl level.
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  The Nickel Lagerius just shut down Tyreek Hill. He's shut down Justin Jefferson.
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  And that allows Coach Bags, the defensive coordinator, to he's he's learned
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  from Jim Johnson and Philly he likes. He likes the blitz. The more
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  exotic, the more aggressive, the better. And if he has those guys
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  locked down, locked up in coverage he can really keep them one on one
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  and just send everybody. But to your point, yeah, it's it's gonna
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  be interesting. So Sneid is a physical press corner and he's done a really
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  good job on Hill Garrett Wilson, Justin Jefferson, really anyone, but he
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  has not faced somebody as big as physical as AJ Brown, So that's gonna
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  be interesting. I think maybe Brown has a little bit more success for that,
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  But I do think the running game is going to be the Chiefs,
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  as good as their defense has been, if there's a weakness, especially if
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  late has been kind of the running game. They had trouble with Javonte Williams
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  both times with the Broncos. They shut down the Dolphins, but most are
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  late when they went to the run. He kind of what he's kind of
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  what brought them back in that game in Germany. So yeah, I think
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  a J. Brown will be a key. But look, the running game
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  is where they they where they could potentially have some success. Yeah, we're
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  definitely going to get into some vulnerabilities with the Chiefs in a little bit here,
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  But I wanted to move along here in terms of Chiefs players that us
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  as Eagles fans really need to watch in terms of certain categories, Jeff.
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  So we're going to do under the radar, over hyped players, and bounce
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  back guys who need to have a bounce back game here. So let's start
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  with the first category here, who is the under the radar player this week
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  for the Chiefs that we as Eagles fans here we're gonna need to watch and
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  keep our eye on. Who is that? Like that that that guy who's
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  flying under the radar here that we're gonna need to focus on. Yeah,
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  I'm just gonna throw out there just because he this guy is an under the
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  radar guy. He's interesting because he's a contract year. He's a free agent.
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  Mike Dana is an edge rusher who has been really good all year.
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  I think people really don't know who he is. He was not the highest
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  drafted player. He was at Michigan for a while and after starting or excuse
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  me, he was at Central Michigan and then transferred to Michigan where he didn't
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  do a whole lot. But he's he's really been good. He's he's so
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  I think that's kind of interesting that he has five and a half sacks,
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  you know, for mine that I don't think a lot of fans necessarily have
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  heard of uh. So he's a guy to watch and he's like part of
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  They're not definitely is as good as deep as the Eagles on the defensive line.
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  I don't know if anybody is, but they have these guys like Dana,
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  like Georgia croloft As they can mix in there and have some depth.
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  So that's kind of a guy that maybe an Eagles fan might not necessarily be
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  aware of, but he's he's making himself a lot of money. Mike Dan.
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  I've been following it a lot for Forbus because he's the guy that's I
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  think gonna price himself out of the Chiefs. And then the other one is
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  I think Lugerius Sneed that flies under the radiar a little bit. Yeah,
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  also in a contract year, just because I think there's more focus on Chris
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  Jones and guys like that in snead. Again, he's he gets the number
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  one receiver every week, so I expect him to line up against d A.
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  J. Brown. He welcomes that challenge. So I think those are
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  two guys to look out for. Some two names there. All right,
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  great, moving on next category, who is good who maybe the mower over
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  hyped player this week for the Chiefs and why I'm wondering who it's gonna be.
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  And I don't think it's Travis Kelsey of course, because we know what
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  Kelsey did the Eagles in the Super Bowl and the Eagles are having major issues
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  with regard to their slot corner corner back and uh and some of the linebacker
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  core every now and again. But who is he? Who is who is
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  the over hyped player this week for the Chiefs? And why? Gotcha?
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  You know, I'm not I'm not sure that there's really one that will be
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  over hyped, just because, like I feel that the great players that they
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  have, the big name players, Chris Jones, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes
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  all live up to the hype. I'm actually over hyped. You've got to
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  go, Like, okay, I've gotta go. Travis. Travis Kelcey is
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  the best tight end of the game. He probably be the best tight end
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  to ever play the game. But hype with this one with the Kelseys,
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  with who's an Eagles fan who grew up in the area that that there's nothing
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  that could possibly match the hype, So like he deserves all this but like,
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  yeah, that I'm only going for that, not not saying he's a
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  bad player, that I got you anything like that, but like, did
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  he possibly match the hype? I mean, he's everywhere and anywhere. He's
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  an Argentina, he's in Germany, he's you know, against his his brother.
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  So all right, sounds good. I like that one for sure,
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  into and left the logic there, you see, I do. Yes.
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  Well, as we're moving along area, I wonder, which player do you
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  think for the Chiefs is going to need to have that bounce back game?
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  And why, Jeff, I think the bounce back game is just going to
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  be have to you know, I'd actually say that, uh Mahomes is going
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  to have to have the bounce back. We're going to say him yep,
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  right, he I mean he's you know, it's hard hard to he's the
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  best, he's the reigning m v P. He's I mean, what do
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  you say. There's so many accolades, but he did not have his best
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  game. He was under two hundred yards passing, and that's following you know,
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  a real bad game against you know, he was sick and all,
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  but against the against the Broncos. So you're looking last two Gay games.
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  He had two interceptions, no touchdown passes against the Broncos, just one hundred
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  and eighty five yards passing against the Dolphins. So yeah, that's that's who
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  I think, that's who's about. And he usually does. He's such a
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  combetitive guy. Whenever he has a little bit of a you know, a
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  bad game or bad game at least by his standards, he always bounces back.
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  So yeah, all right, he's a bad guy for me. All
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  right, sounds good again, folks. Talking to Jeffdoten from the Believe in
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  Chiefs podcast also Forbes dot com as well putting up great content. There.
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  Two part question for you here, Jeff, is we're moving along getting into
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  this this week's matchup here against the Eagles. I'm wondering where do you think
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  the Chiefs are most vulnerable on offense? Is there a particular unit, particular
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  individual where do you think the Eagles are going to be able to possibly exploit
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  the Chiefs from an offensive perspective this week? Yeah, I think it's those
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  receivers that we talked about. That's really the kind of the Achilles heel of
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  the team. I would throw everything at Kelsey, really try and lock him
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  down and make these other receivers beat you. Also, what's the interest.
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  I don't think this is a weakness. They've held up pretty well. They
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  have new offensive tackles this year. Yeah, and see how that does.
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  I would if I'm the Eagles coaching, any of the Eagles coaches, I'm
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  saying to the officials, watch Juwan Taylor. He still lines up offside.
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  I would be in their ear all game and trying to because that's it's The
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  line has been good, but penalties have been an issue. So maybe that's
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  that's a weakness there that they they could exploit it, especially against such a
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  good Eagles defense a lot. Yeah, Yeah, absolutely, It's gonna be
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  interesting to see how quick Patrick Mahomes needs to get that ball out short intermediate
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  type routes again to Rice or you know, maybe even Marcus Fold the scantling
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  as well. It's gonna be interesting to see, you know, how that
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  short passing game turns out. Where do you think that Chiefs Jeff are going
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  to be most vulnerable from the defensive side of the balls. We're looking at
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  these matchups here, Yeah, and there aren't a lot of vulnerabilities. Like
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  we've said, how good they've been throughout the But again, I think if
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  there is it is that running game is that they've had that's been showing some
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  cracks against the Broncos, even the charges they had, So I think that's
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  that's that's where it is. But it's that you're where you really have to
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  kind of look for with a magnifying glass because there are the holes are pretty
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  small there, so exactly well, I'm wondering, you know, I'm wondering
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  what type of balance the Chief's running backs are going to be giving their offense.
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  Whether it's going to be Pachecko, you know, Clyde Edwards hilarious,
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  he's going to be getting any time as well. Do you think it's going
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  to be kind of same old, same old what we have been seeing with
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  Pacheco being the major running back or do you think they're going to be just
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  distributing the ball around to various running backs. I think Pachecko is going to
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  be the guy. He gets pumped up to play the Phillies, excuse play
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  the Eagles. He grew up in the Philadelphia area, technically in Jersey,
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  but that was his team growing we actually and he read and the Eagles.
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  I did a big Super Bowl story on that, so I think he's gonna
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  be pumped. They also was interesting is the Chiefs when they need a jolt
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  of energy, when they need a burst, Pacheco is their guy that he
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  just he run so hard often coming out and look for this often coming out
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  in the second half. They've they've been going early and often with Pacheco runs
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  to kind of give them a jolt of energy. So it's really gonna be
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  a Pacheco game. Andrew Lair was actually he missed the Germany game hasn't been
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  much of a factor. McKinnon also less so. So it's it's gonna be
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  Checho early and often for sure. As far as the running back, they're
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  at all right, very good. All right to close the sound here to
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  part question in terms of what both teams are going to need to hit on
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  for a win this week at Arrowhead Stadium. What's the one thing, Jeff,
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  the Chiefs are going to need to hit on for a win and beat
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  this Philadelphia Eagles team to really send a message. What are you thinking?
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  You know what? This might be the same thing both sides, but I
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  really think what I'm most looking forward to watching and I'm most interested, and
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  I think is going to determine the game is going to be My co host,
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  my belief partner, Joe Valario would love this because he's he's all about
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  the big uglies. He's a form alignment in himself. I want to see
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  how the Chiefs offensive line performs against this Eagles defensive line, which I think
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  is even better. They lost Hargrave, but Jalen Carter is such a beast
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  incredible right for a rookie. I wanted to do so much talk, so
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  much hubbub about the Chiefs did not give up one sack in the Super Bowl.
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  I want to see if that changes. You know, there's all this
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  talk about the turf was so lousy at State Farm Stadium in Arizona, you
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  know there, so now we're on a different turf. Is there going to
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  be a different if you're there, if they get if the Eagles get zero
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  sacks, you know, I think that the Chiefs win if they have a
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  performance more representative of what we've seen the rest of the year. I think
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  it's a real pick. Come. I know we're going to be talking on
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  our regular show this coming week specifically about that. You know, if the
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  Eagles defensive line or linebacker is able to get three or four sacks on Patrick
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  Mahomes. What does that actually mean for the Chiefs offense? But to close
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  this out here, what do you think the Eagles are going to need to
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  do to hit on the wins? A hit on for a win? Probably
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  something similar, correct, right? I know that's I'm really maybe I'm trying
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  to make things efficient for you, Jeff, to give you answer that that
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  line to scrimmage, that defense, and also one more thing, and though
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  they have to because again I think this is the one area the Chiefs are
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  vulnerable. They have to have a big game running in the football Andrew the
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  rest of the running backs they use gainwell, Scott even Hurts. I think
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  that so that that's going to be a real key. They've got to run
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  the ball because that's where maybe the Chiefs have a little bit of weakness.
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  And again, to keep the Chiefs offense off the field. So I think
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  those are line of scrimmage, running game, that's what they need to do.
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  So very good. Enjoyed our discussion here for sure. Again, folks,
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  Jeff Fidotan from the Believe in Chiefs podcast, you know we love the
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  Believe Network here at the PSD podcast show Forbes dot Com. Check out everything
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  Jeff is putting on the interwebs. Are you on Twitter as well? Jeff,
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  I I I missed that I had not mentioned that. My friend oh
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  No worries. Yeah, check me out there. It's uh it all.
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  I'll spell my name because it's a for both Forbes and looking on Twitter,
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  it's it's a tough one to spell. It's fidotan f E d O T
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  I N Jeff Fidoon. Check me out on social media there on Twitter or
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  my Forbes articles. So yeah, it's been a really it's been a blast
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  and can't wait for this game. Game of the year in my opinion.
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  And you know, I was actually having some chats with like people from ESPN
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  and stuff, and you know, like they're they think in my So the
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  record breaker for Monday Night Football since ESPN has had as far as ratings has
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  was actually Week one, Aaron Rodgers. It's such a big story for the
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  Jets. Could break it could break those numbers. Let's see if it does.
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  For sure. Again Jeff Fidote and folks, Jeff, it was great
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  talking to you, buddy. Please come back join us. I'd love to
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  have you on down the road, my friend. Awesome, man, it
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  was a blast. That was a great conversation. Really so hyped for this
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  game. We are going to see two powerhouse teams coming together. I do
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  wonder how each defense is going to really end up performing. I mean,
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  I think we're all kind of expecting this maybe to be a shootout, kind
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  of like how it was in the Super Bowl between two very high powered,
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  prolific offenses. We know the Eagles have been sputtering a little bit as well
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  on offense, just like the Chiefs. They have been doing a little spot
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  as well. Patrick Mahomes needing that bounce back game from his past game where
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  he wasn't even able to throw over two hundred yards. So let you know,
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  I wonder how the defenses are going to really end up performing and what
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  it's gonna mean. Really hyped for it. Can't wait for this game.
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  It was great talking to jeff again, and that's gonna do it for us
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