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Ep. 974: Rut Fresh Radio - Whitetail Lockdown Week: Hunt Smarter or Sit Longer? · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome back to Roughfresh. This is Jake
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  Speaker 1: Koefer and we have a great episode here from a
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  Speaker 1: handful of folks across the Midwest. We have Phil Lincoln,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Visson, Ben Mosley, and Jared Larson giving their most
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  Speaker 1: recent RUT report for one of the most exciting weeks
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  Speaker 1: of the year. And now we're approaching potentially a little
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  Speaker 1: bit harder, but still a great amount of opportunity here
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  Speaker 1: coming up, and we're going to talk about some things
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  Speaker 1: to consider. You still have that tag in your pocket,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you're struggling. Here's some words of encouragement
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  Speaker 1: and some strategy that can help you over the next
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  Speaker 1: seven days. I hope you guys enjoy it. As you know.
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  Speaker 1: or hunting properties here in the US. Let's go in
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  Speaker 1: and get things started here with Phil Lincoln in Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: All right, first up on the line, we have Phil Lincoln,
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  Speaker 1: who recently tagged a buck in Indiana. Phil, how does
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  Speaker 1: it feel? You know, it's always bittersweet, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: It's like it takes the pressure off. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: hard work pays off. But at the same time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: done in Indiana. Fortunately have a piece of property right
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  Speaker 1: across the border in Illinois and have landowner tags, so
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of get to focus on Illinois, which yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a good thing. I saw your post on
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  Speaker 1: I saw your post on Facebook, and I feel everyone
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  Speaker 1: has weird superstitions this time of year, because it feels like,
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, a little bit of luck is needed, whether
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  Speaker 1: we all want to admit it or not, and you
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  Speaker 1: bust it out your lucky half. How much do you
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  Speaker 1: think that had to play into your success here? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, who knows. I think, you know, with everything,
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  Speaker 1: we make our own luck. You know, I was in
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  Speaker 1: a based on the time of the year, I was
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  Speaker 1: in a rut funnel, and you know I shot a
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  Speaker 1: buck that I may or I mean, I have on camera.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, the one thing about a rut funnel.
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  Speaker 1: Is and especially if you're connected to a big chunk
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  Speaker 1: of woods, you know, you got deer moving you you know,
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  Speaker 1: you may see the bucks that you have on camera
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  Speaker 1: and you may see totally different ones, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so uh, this breakdown that funnel is for someone
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  Speaker 1: to understand it. Did you have where was your sat blowing?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think there was bedding nearby? Kind of just
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  Speaker 1: paint that picture if you can, so people can get
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  Speaker 1: understanding what worked for you. So so I think there's
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  Speaker 1: so I'm in a in a in a river bottom
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  Speaker 1: and it's a it's a section of the river that
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  Speaker 1: that chokes down pretty tight, right, So you got water
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  Speaker 1: that's got some real steep banks that they're clearly not
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're not crossing the creek in that point.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm on a Depending on which direction the
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  Speaker 1: wind's blown, whether it's got north and south in it,
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  Speaker 1: dictates which side of it I'm sitting on the anything
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  Speaker 1: with south in it, I'm sitting on the north side
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  Speaker 1: on a flat that's covered with oaks. And the only
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  Speaker 1: downside to that is if they're eating a lot of acorns,
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  Speaker 1: they can they can get behind you. The downside to
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  Speaker 1: that is is I almost can't shoot all the way
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  Speaker 1: across the pinch point. If the wind is in the
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  Speaker 1: opposite direction and I'm on the other side close to
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  Speaker 1: you know, basically sitting close to the creek, I can
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  Speaker 1: shoot the whole thing, because I'm not all the way over.
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  Speaker 1: The downside is I've got across the path of the
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  Speaker 1: deer going back and forth to get there. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where sink control is really critical. I was on the
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  Speaker 1: north side of the rut funnel and at one point
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  Speaker 1: I saw the buck that I thought was him come
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  Speaker 1: out of the come between the CRP and a finger
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  Speaker 1: of trees that I shot a good buck out of
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  Speaker 1: a few years ago. And I saw him come and
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  Speaker 1: I got excited and I thought, Oh, that looks like
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  Speaker 1: a would be a shooter. And then he kind of
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  Speaker 1: like turned like he saw some deer, and I saw
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  Speaker 1: his tail.
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  Speaker 2: I saw him run off, and I thought, oh crap.
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  Speaker 1: And then a little while later, probably like an hour later,
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching up the funnel and I don't see much.
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  Speaker 1: I see a couple of doos come through, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm just kind of like thinking
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  Speaker 1: do I stay or do I go? And I hear
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  Speaker 1: I hear something and I look down like right there,
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  Speaker 1: like already in range like twelve twelve yards from the
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  Speaker 1: base of my tree, and I see antlers and I
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  Speaker 1: see a tail twitch and I'm like, holy cow, where
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  Speaker 1: did he come from.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I didn't even hear him, and he just
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  Speaker 2: walked right underneath me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean when I shot him, I was shooting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not quite straight down, but like seven yards from the
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  Speaker 1: base of the tree in high you know, out low,
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  Speaker 1: and I literally watched him go like that and flop over.
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  Speaker 1: So love it. Well, congratulations, So you were you were
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  Speaker 1: a guide in Alaska, and I feel like an unspoken
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  Speaker 1: rule of a guide is to keep morale high and
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  Speaker 1: maybe not so like when when your hunter's in there
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  Speaker 1: and he's you know, spell this time or money, and
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  Speaker 1: you know it's gone from work, one from his family
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  Speaker 1: and you're struggling. What do you say to the guys
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  Speaker 1: listening right now that feel you know, they've been hunting
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  Speaker 1: really hard and just things haven't been going the way
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  Speaker 1: they need to. We're are entering arguably the lockdown period
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  Speaker 1: here between the twelfth and nineteenth. What do you say
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  Speaker 1: to a guy that's like Phil, I don't know, I'm struggling.
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  Speaker 1: So in Alaska, like moose hunting or brown bear hunting
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  Speaker 1: or caribou hunting, it can be like two or three
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  Speaker 1: days of slow and nothing before bam, something happens where
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  Speaker 1: white tail hunting. You know, sometimes half a day or
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  Speaker 1: a few hours can seem like a lifetime of nothing happening, right.
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  Speaker 1: But what I have found, some of the biggest trophies
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  Speaker 1: I've killed in my life have been shifting my attitude
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  Speaker 1: towards hunting with friends and allowing them to take the
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  Speaker 1: first trophies because they've either never done it before or
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  Speaker 1: never killed one. And what I've found is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times being patient works out, works out to your benefit.
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  Speaker 1: And it usually it seems like whether you're sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the white Tail woods or just spending day after day glassing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, call and moose, waiting for a big bull
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  Speaker 1: to walk in. About the time you really think why
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  Speaker 1: am I doing this, all of a sudden bam, something
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  Speaker 1: happens and you know, there's that flurry of excitement for
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  Speaker 1: you know, however long, and you either take advantage of
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  Speaker 1: it or you don't. But yeah, usually about the time
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  Speaker 1: you're really thinking about giving up is usually when your
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  Speaker 1: luck changes it. You know, if you're really serious and
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  Speaker 1: you're actually putting the time in, it's it's bound to
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  Speaker 1: happen eventually.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: That's great advice.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything that sticks out to you to be
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe one of the most important things that
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  Speaker 1: hunting this this next week of November, between the twelfth
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  Speaker 1: and nineteenth, it looks like temperatures are going to be
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  Speaker 1: kind of elevated for this upcoming weekend. You know, with
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  Speaker 1: all that considered, uh, where is kind of your hat at?
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  Speaker 1: I think I would give you know, probably the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the generic answers you'd get from most any you know,
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  Speaker 1: whitetail guy that time a period. So in Indiana this
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  Speaker 1: year that is Saturdays, actually the opening weekend of gun
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  Speaker 1: in Indiana. And even if I even if I haven't
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  Speaker 1: shot my one buck in Indiana, sometimes I'll gun hunt.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I just kind of wait for the madness to
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  Speaker 1: be over and then go back into bow hunting mode.
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  Speaker 1: Or I'll put on a red cap, which you usually
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have to wear red to bow hunt.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say, you know, I would switch off
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  Speaker 1: to the you know, the thickets between you know, bedding
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  Speaker 1: and food and you know, catch the catch those bucks
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  Speaker 1: that are looking for that next dough you know where
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  Speaker 1: where you know, I mean back back in the thick,
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  Speaker 1: you know where you're not like bumping deer out of bedding.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not necessarily in the destination food plots either.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The the problem with hunting food plots is is you know,
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  Speaker 1: you blow dose out of food plots and you can
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  Speaker 1: you can change that spot for a week or several
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  Speaker 1: days or maybe the whole season where you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you can get between the food and the bedding, usually
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  Speaker 1: you're catching deer going through and you know, when it
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  Speaker 1: gets dark, you can say, Okay, now's my chance.
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  Speaker 2: Gather up your stuff, get down the tree.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, if you've got if you've got good
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  Speaker 1: access and you know in and out, that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be your safest bet to you know, low impact, but
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  Speaker 1: still catch you know, those bucks, you know, frantically looking
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  Speaker 1: for the you know, for that next dough. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you've got a high dough population, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: may not see much cruising looking for those doughs at all.
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  Speaker 2: They may not have to go far to get them.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's what I'm that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm dealing with here in Indiana. I think
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  Speaker 1: we just have too many dos and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's just really cut down on the amount
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  Speaker 1: of buck movement in general. Yeah. Now, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: important too, because I feel that, you know, the deeper
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  Speaker 1: the season gets, the more desperate people get where they're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't really care if I scare some deer.
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  Speaker 1: I have to get back here. I have to get
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  Speaker 1: you know, like make you know, forget the fundamentals and
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  Speaker 1: dis inherently make it harder on themselves. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a great piece of advice for folks to remember
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  Speaker 1: the fundamentals and keep keep You got to be there
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  Speaker 1: to win, right, You got to be out there to
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  Speaker 1: have an opportunity. But I still want to not make
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  Speaker 1: it harder for yourself. So I'm going to tell you
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  Speaker 1: something that I'd never talked about before, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the biggest mistake that people make going into the woods.
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  Speaker 1: And I've done I've done a bunch of research on this,
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  Speaker 1: and I've done a little bit of writing. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: come up with a a sale of the story.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, how we sneak into our tree stands.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're meticulous about keeping our boots clean and
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  Speaker 1: our pant legs clean, and we're not touching the weeds
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  Speaker 1: as we're walking through the woods and we're like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, got to get to my stand without leaving
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  Speaker 1: any scent.
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  Speaker 2: You go there, and then you know.
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  Speaker 1: Later in the morning you got a three year old
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  Speaker 1: dough walks exactly. Your path comes to the base of
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  Speaker 1: your tree, sifts around, and it maybe goes on about
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  Speaker 1: her business or whatever, and you think, how in the
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  Speaker 1: world can she smell me? Right, I mean, we've all
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  Speaker 1: been there, We've all been there, and I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you the most overlooked thing I think that everybody is
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  Speaker 1: dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: It's your breath. Interesting, it's your breath.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody talks about it, nobody covers it. Yet that's how
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  Speaker 1: bloodhounds find people is breath, breath and skin cells. So
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  Speaker 1: the more you can cover up, long sleeves, gloves, cover
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  Speaker 1: your face. I've started. I started wearing a mask to
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  Speaker 1: my tree stamp. Right. So it's hard to sit in
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  Speaker 1: a tree stamp a guy with glasses, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: sit for long periods of time because your glasses fog up.
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  Speaker 1: It just sucks. I mean, it takes all it takes
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  Speaker 1: all the remaining fun right out of it. Right, But
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  Speaker 1: for me now, I don't want to leave any scent
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  Speaker 1: between the truck and the base of my tree. When
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  Speaker 1: I get up there, my, you know, my, my, my, uh.
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  Speaker 2: My breathing has relaxed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not expelling as much moisture whatever, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: pay as the closest attention to it. Although I've seen
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Jim Browker sit in a tree stand with
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  Speaker 1: a charcoal mask on and and literally cover his face.
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  Speaker 1: So when when when I go into my tree and
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  Speaker 1: I have deer completely around me in my downwind and
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  Speaker 1: I don't have dose stomp and I don't have any blown,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any carrying on, and then my trail
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  Speaker 1: cameras show pictures of bucks and doze in the same
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  Speaker 1: area around where I've been. I feel pretty confident that
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  Speaker 1: the day before, when I was in there, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have much impat Everybody knows every time you hunt a
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  Speaker 1: tree stand, the quality of that stand just goes down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, a little bit more, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more. But when you don't see deer reacting to
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  Speaker 1: you being there, I mean, it's not a guarantee that
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  Speaker 1: you haven't degraded that stand. Because I think anything can
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  Speaker 1: make a difference. The other thing that I learned too,
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  Speaker 1: is not only is it your breath, but then it's
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  Speaker 1: also things that don't belong there. I hunted Kansas with
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  Speaker 1: some bear clients a number of years ago. I hunted
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  Speaker 1: two years in a row, and every day when i'd
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  Speaker 1: walk into this stand, there was this huge puddle that
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  Speaker 1: when I turned off the main road and turned to
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  Speaker 1: go back into the woods to my tree stand, there
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  Speaker 1: was this big there was this big puddle, and so
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  Speaker 1: I thought, this is years ago. I thought, being a
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  Speaker 1: smart guy that I was, I'd get in there and
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  Speaker 1: scrub my boots real good and wash off anything that
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  Speaker 1: they might have picked up in the bed of the
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  Speaker 1: truck or whatever, you know, get them all wet, and
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  Speaker 1: then I screwed off into the woods, pimb up my
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  Speaker 1: tree stand and think, okay, here I go. And in
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  Speaker 1: some cases I think I was doing more harm by
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  Speaker 1: stepping in that puddle than I was if I would
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  Speaker 1: have just walked down the gravel road, turned down my
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  Speaker 1: path with dry boots and just went in. Because now
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  Speaker 1: what was happening is I'm introducing water and whatever scent
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  Speaker 1: was in that puddle from cars driving through whatever. I
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  Speaker 1: actually added more scent, more things that didn't belong to
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  Speaker 1: my boots boom and scattered it right to my right,
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  Speaker 1: to my stand. Yeah, but I'm telling you the breath,
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  Speaker 1: the breath, The breath is big. That's interesting. Well, nobody
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  Speaker 1: talks about it, but it's your breath test. Yeah, Google,
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  Speaker 1: how does the bloodhound find a last person? And they'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you it's their breath and skin cells. And we
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  Speaker 1: all know that white tailed deer have better nose than
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  Speaker 1: a bloodhound. So as long as you're leaving. I had
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  Speaker 1: an experiment. I put a white masth like we all
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  Speaker 1: wore during COVID. I took off from the truck, I
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  Speaker 1: went to my tree stand, I climbed up. When I
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  Speaker 1: got all settled, and I took it off. And when
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  Speaker 1: I took that white mask off, I had a puddle,
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  Speaker 1: a puddle like moisture ran dripped out. So all that
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  Speaker 1: moisture that was contained in that mask would have been
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  Speaker 1: scattered between the base of my tree and the truck.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting, well, people, Yeah, people can people can test
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  Speaker 1: this theory and see if they have less dear follow them.
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  Speaker 1: So knowing the phase of November right now, knowing weather
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  Speaker 1: isn't you know a plus here for the next seven
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  Speaker 1: days scale one to ten. Where do you put this
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  Speaker 1: next weekend? Oof? Well, and I mean Indiana they're going
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  Speaker 1: to slaughter him because his gun season.
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  Speaker 2: It's the middle of the rud. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not seeing I'm not seeing I'm not seeing
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  Speaker 1: the numbers of older age class deer this year that
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  Speaker 1: I have pretty consistently in the past. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if EHD has taken more of a hit this
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  Speaker 1: year than it has in the past. If it's just
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the full moon and then working at
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  Speaker 1: night and and you know, the warmer weather being less movement,
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  Speaker 1: If I'm just was really sucky about my trail cam
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  Speaker 1: location since this year, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But to me it's an off year. It to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's been hard to get excited.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people start getting excited about trail camp pictures
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  Speaker 1: over beans in July and then August, and then you
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  Speaker 1: know they get hard horned and you get the you
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  Speaker 1: get the dispersal and they're like, oh, oh, my big
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  Speaker 1: deer are gone, or holy cow, one just showed up.
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  Speaker 1: I never worry about that stuff until like the first
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  Speaker 1: of October, and then I don't get excited until you know,
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  Speaker 1: the twenty fifth of October. If I don't have pictures
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  Speaker 1: of bucks by the twenty fifth of October, now I'm
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  Speaker 1: starting to kind of Now I'm kind of starting to
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  Speaker 1: panic a little bit. And that's kind of the way
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  Speaker 1: it's been like since the twenty fifth of November. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to be a Debbie downer,
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  Speaker 1: but for me, I you know, I'm gonna keep hunting
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  Speaker 1: Illinois and keep my fingers crossed. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: with with even more warm weather, I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be more of the same. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think there's gonna be a lot of deer
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  Speaker 1: killed just because it's the one time of the year
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  Speaker 1: the bucks will make a mistake and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: not be as vigilant going through the woods, and people
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  Speaker 1: are gonna, you know, people are going to hammer them.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So one of ten, where do you put it?
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  Speaker 3: Ah?
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  Speaker 1: Six, Okay, I think we had another. I think we
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  Speaker 1: had another six in this patch. But well, Phil, congratulations
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  Speaker 1: once again, and good luck in Illinois and appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: People can pay attention to their skin cells and their
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  Speaker 1: breath and maybe you're onto something.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm onto something.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Next up we have Kevin Visison with Deer Hunter Podcasts,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: who just tagged a perfon that's no best buck in Michigan.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: How's it feel?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: It feels phenomenal.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: It was a real It was a real emotional rollercoaster.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: I hit a buck bad on Tuesday, hit him high,
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: backstrapped him, and come to find out, when I got
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: down out of the tree and started looking around, by
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: site was loose. It was like fifteen yards. It was
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: a chip shot. It was an absolute slam dunk chip shot.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: I had, I've got everything on film, but I got
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: down and there was no blood, and so.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: I watched the footage back.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I definitely hit that deer high and
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: my site had come loose. So I already had PTSD
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: going from Tuesday and then Wednesday evening it was super
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: high winds, so I tucked into some thermal cover on
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: a down wind side of a small mountain. Basically that
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: I assumed some does were betting on and that there
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: might be some bucks kind of cruising through this area,
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: and I just, you know, you gamble, and I picked
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: the wrong trail. I was hoping that he was going
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: to take the primary trail that was going to be
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: between me and the dough betting, but he picked the
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: one just behind me, which was on the down wind
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: side of me. He came in on the down wind
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: side of me, so I was kind of worked up.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Plus I'm in a saddle and he was on my
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: weak side, so I had I was matured deer at
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: twenty yards unannounced to me. I look back, he's right there,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: so I'm like, oh my gosh, get my bow.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Come over my bridge.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: Lutily, luckily there was some pines, so he as he's
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: walking past me, he's going through some pines and I
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: was able to get away with a lot of movement.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: So I came over my bridge. But still is very acrobatic.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: And you know you when you practice shooting, you're in yard,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: you got good form.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Like everything's this was the complete opposite.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It was totally.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: It was, and I realized that before I let the
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: arrow go that I was right.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: It was in a terrible position. I did what I
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: could to straighten myself out.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: I took an extra second and I really settled the
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: pin and I was conscious about that because I just
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: had a bad scenario and I didn't want to have
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: another one. But I let the arrow go. It sounded
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: really good, it looked really good. But it happened well.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: I have it all on a film.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: It was twenty nine seconds from the time I saw
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: the deer to the time I let the arrow go.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: When I got down to the impact site, there was
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: no blood.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: The arrow had blood on it, but there was no blood.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: And I could see where the deer had turned up
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: the pine leaves running and I went like twenty five
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: yards and there wasn't a single drop of blood.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: And I I just instantly just went to the deep, deep.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Down bottoms of Oh my gosh, how could I have
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: How could this have happened? And so what ended up
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: happening is I think when I hit him, so he
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: was quartering to a little bit, and he was very close,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: my entry was high and my exit was very low,
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: like in.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: His armpit on the off side armpit.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: His leg was forward, and when that arrow came out,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: I think when he ran, his leg came back and
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: covered the exit and it was like really tight to
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: where it held all the blood in until the blood
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: came up the cavity all the way to the high entry,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: because we went almost one hundred yards on little pinpricks of.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Blood and then like someone opened a faucet.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: And the next fifty yards was just a basically a
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: drug out puddle of blood and he was laying right there.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: And so I went from the lowest of lows to
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: the highest of highs and had like, if anybody wants
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: to get me a Christmas gift, I could use a
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: subscription to a mental health clinic.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Come out coming out of it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: That's November, November, white tales and a nuts.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, man, it's a lot,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: it's a lot. I had a good friend with me,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: and we celebrated accordingly, and it was a big emotional dump.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm going to weigh.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: The deer tomorrow.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I suspect he's maybe going to weigh around two hundred
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: and twenty five pounds.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: You know, he's a wilderness deer.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: He's never had a bite of corn or any kind
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: of egg or anything like that. So yeah, it's it's
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: it's still I guess it's less common for you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: deer that live in that type of situation to put
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: on a ton.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Of win eight mass.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: You know they're they're really they put a lot of
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: their time and energy into just surviving.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, no, that's awesome, man, congratulations and super exciting.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So still have a tag and so looking at here,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, the first we're getting
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: into the first the first quarter of November is over.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So like more than likely people that listeners dud. They've
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: been hunting hard, they've been hunting every chance they get,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and maybe things haven't gone quite the way they were hoping.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And so now from the twelfth of the nineteenth, what
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: do you say to that guy that's like, Man, I'm struggling.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I'm struggling. I'm starting to get in my own head.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the fundamentals of what I need to be
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: doing this time of year. For that guy, what do
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you tell them?
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: I I you know, I grew up. I'm like fast
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and furious.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: And there's a quote when the young guy's drag Race
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: and the old guy and he hits the nitrous too
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: soon and he doesn't make it to the finish line,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: and then Dominic Turetto says, too soon, Junior, and then
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: he hits it at the end and he wins. Social
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: media really accelerates people's thinking. I think now that they
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: gotta get it done. Everybody's getting it done. I haven't
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: got it done. And you're you are right. We are
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: coming to the peak of the mountain. So you you
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: climb up the peak of the mountain and we'll call
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: the peak of the mountain. We're probably there right now
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: as we're recording this. It's what the seventh, It's Bill Winkie.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Day, It's National Tree Stand Bill Winki Day.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a buck hanging from my back tree.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Bill Winky left me broadheads under it. But we got
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: a whole downside of the mountain to come down and
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: it doesn't get bad for a long time.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I took.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: My whole point is I wouldn't be an any state
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: of panic in any capacity.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I if you give me.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: An option to hunt from November fifteenth to the end
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: of the year or November fifteenth to October first, I
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: would take November fifteenth to the end of the year.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: Easy decision for me. I know a lot of the
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: deer have been killed, but I feel like a lot
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: of the bigger and smarter deer that have made it
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: through a deer season they have made it through a
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: deer season and I've just had a lot of success
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: late season. I feel like the woods empties out. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: I also think it's worth mentioning. I've heard a lot,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: and it's for years people say lockdown, lockdown, lockdown, like
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: it's a bad thing. Lockdown that I love. Lockdown, Like
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: you're telling me the deer is in a place like
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: and he's staying there.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: That's a gift. So and when the deer.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: Lockdown, it's like a dog with a bone and another
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: dog goes to it and it's guards it. Those deer
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: almost get like in zombie mode where you can almost
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: like go in and throw stuff at them and they
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: won't leave.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they won't leave.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: So when the.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Lockdown lockdown phase happens, the deer do stop ranging quite
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: so much. But if you know where the dough betting
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: is and where the heavy cover is and where a
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: buck wants to push a dough to breed them, you
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: just got to get into those spots and you can
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: literally walk in on those deer and push them out
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: of there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: And they don't.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Like to leave. They don't like to leave. So if
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: you're a mobile hunter and you have flexibility. I understand
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: that if you are sitting over you know, maybe a
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: food source, and you're not mobile, and the deer aren't
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: moving as much, and they're not willing to run across
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: the open field in the middle of the day because
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: they're tucked up in heavy cover with a dough. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: I like to hunt that heavy cover, so I guess,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: you know, to put a bow on that. I love
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: what's coming, like, I'm excited for what's coming. Plus, our
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: gun season opens November fifteenth, m hm, So it's almost.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Basically another basically another Michigan national holiday. You guys have
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of holidays in November that a lot of
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: people don't recognize. You got Bill Winkie Day, and you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: have opening Day a gun season in Michigan.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, November fifteenth is a special day and it marks
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the kickoff of our gun season. And then where I live,
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: I get it's a rate around the same time where
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: I start to get snow.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: So it's a big reset for me.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: It opens up a whole new deer season because I
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: can start tracking and doing some things that I can't
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: do without snow. I know that that's you know, not
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: for every everybody doesn't have that situation. But I really
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: love when we get to that time of the year.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: But the best is the best is yet to come
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: in in my opinion, and I love If I had
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: to pick one week, I would pick the week of Thanksgiving.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: Every time, I've had more big deer walk during daylight
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: hours and the last week of November historically than anything
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: else that I see through the year. And we get
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: you know, we get hundreds or thousands of video and
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: photo submissions from people that use our synthetic scent products.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: The sample size that I have seen is with our
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: community is very It lines up with what I have
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: seen personally, and a lot of deer, big deer late
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: November because like I said, they've been through a deer
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: season before, they've been chased before. You know, they've been
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: through it for three or four years, and they know
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: how to they know how to slide through that period
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: and they understand a lot of people I think are
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: out of the woods by that time of year, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: they get one, they get there's less people in the woods,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: and two we come down the backside of the mountain,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: there's not as many doughs like uh.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: I've experienced multiple times where I'm mature.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Dose dose will go to Bucks like they don't even
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: have to go out and run crazy to breed, right,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: But that might not be the case come like November
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: twenty if through twenty fifth, something like that. And I've
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: just consistently seen it for years where that is such
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: a golden opportunity. But a lot of people like I said,
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: too soon, Junior's.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: That's perfect, perfect way to describe it. So either go
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: get another boost of nitrous the remainder of this month,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: or realize that it is truly a marathon and not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a sprint. As cliche as that sounds, it's it is.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: You can't just start a marathon off sprinting, or you're
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: not gonna make it. And you got to be conscious
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: that social media will lead you to believe that everybody's
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: got their buck and the thing is over.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: But it's it's you know, it's not the case.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I love it. Well, congratulations once again, Kevin. Uh. When's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: when's the footage gonna go live? Is it next year?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: This year? Soon?
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: I imagine we'll put something short format together here in
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: the uh in the coming weeks just so people can
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: have a look at it. But we we have a
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Hunt series on our YouTube at Deer Hunter Podcast, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: I'll save the long format story for next year and
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: then hopefully you have even bigger one.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Wrap my next tag around to love it bigger one
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: here in the coming weeks.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So love it well. Congratulations was again uh and man,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: good luck on the next one.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Thanks Jake.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: All right, we got Ben Moseley with White Tail Lane
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Designs who just smoked his target buck in Wisconsin. How
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: does it feel?
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: It feels pretty good. Feels good like a big weight
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: off your shoulders. A lot of people knew about.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That, dear, so a lot of people were hunting that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: same dear.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: He I mean prior to that, he'd been shot at twice.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: So neighbor neighbor just over the hill shot at him.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: They've got a stand right on our fence line, m so.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: And then and then I shot at him too.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: If you had a swing and a miss, I had
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a swing.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: And a miss.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: It was like it was the like when was it
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: the eighth, no seventh or the eighth of October? I
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: just found him, like on the first and I had
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: to leave to drive back down to Louisiana and then
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: we were going to Hawaii. For my wife's birthday. So
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: he comes out fifty five yards. I'm like, oh, I can,
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: I can do this, set my sight and then I
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: intentionally hang hold low and I watched the air like
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: as it goes, I'm like, that's low shit it the
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: fletching must have touched is his hair, and he just
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: jumps and pretty thick cover. He went like ten yards
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: and then disappeared and walked about twenty yards for me,
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: but in a bunch of really thick stuff and just
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: walked off. But uh, he was back on camera the
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: next day in the same area. He had no idea,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: but I'd set my site pin in the rush of
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: it everything because he was in such thick like CRP.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: I'd set it at fifty one and I said it
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: right at fifty five, pretty sure you would.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Have been dead. But whatever, right I shot him, it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Still worked out. Yeah, So let's talk about it. So
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it's November seventh, right now. You connected with them on
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: November sixth. What's the activity been like as far as
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Like, let's say, what was November fourth and fifth,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and then obviously sixth it came together here, But what's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: been the activity here?
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: Okay, So November fourth. I mean, we've had really high
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: winds up here, so it was pretty slow. Evenings have
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: been really slow up here in general camera activity. Everybody
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: talking about it, just because of the really high winds
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: that we have, warmer temps than normal.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Mornings have been pretty good.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: November fifth, I saw the buck and he'd actually gone
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: into my parents' yard.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I'll send you the video. It might actually be on
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: my Instagram.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: I forgot, but my dad said, up a decoy down
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: there is like, hey, let's just see what happens. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: he's drinking his morning coffee looking out the front window.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: A little buck.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: Comes down, and then he comes down, He squares up
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: with the decoy, sends the decoy flying, and then walked
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: twenty yards from the house.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: So and then he walked back up the hill.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: Walks towards me, and he skirts me about fifty some
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: yards just in thick cover and goes and beds down.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: And then I didn't I saw him again later that
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: night on the other side of the farm at like
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: eight pm on camera.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: SO and so governing some distance obviously a RT mentality
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: that he's fighting decoys in the yard. And then on
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the six kind of walk us through that game plan
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: on how you set up and made it happen.
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: Okay, So I have a stand. It's about one hundred
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: yards from this house. And the way this property is
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: is it's you You're basically hunting from the inside out.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: It's it's not like you're accessing from your normal roads
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: or your egg fields. So I have this stand that
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: is east of the house, about maybe one hundred yards.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: It's down in the bottom. There's a pretty deep ditch.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: A lot of stuff has been pushed into it because
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: I did a lot of doser work up here to
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: open up the egg fields, and so deer just they
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: won't cross right there. And when you've got i mean
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: your sun rises from the east, and I've got a
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: great big rock formation up there that blocks the sun
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: this time of year until about ten ten thirty in
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: the morning, So thermals don't do what thermals will normally
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: do and start rising.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: They're they're rushing, so rushing down the hill.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: So as long as I've got a steady, calm east wind,
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: nothing's gonna nothing's gonna win me. So that's where I said,
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: and I actually almost slept in for the first time
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: yesterday morning. But I have this this drive where if
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: I don't do it, it's gonna eat at me. So
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: I got to the stand probably like five minutes before light,
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: and uh, shortly after setting up, I hear it Doe
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: blowing and this the doze in this area.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: They're getting really spooky.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: I've watched Doe and Fawns blow at Bucks already this year,
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: so I'm assuming she's being her assed. And uh, shortly later,
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: about ten minutes after I hear it blowing, she walks
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: twenty yards in front of me on a logging road
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: and she stops and she stares, and I'm like, okay,
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: she looks like she's looking at me, but I can
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: tell she's looking through me. I'm like, there's something behind me,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: but I can't hear anything or just off to my right.
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: And finally I hear a really deep, deep grunt and
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: she sits there and stares some more and starts blowing again.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: So I'm like, okay, like that, it's got to be him.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: My assumption is is him. They seem to kind of
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: push everything out of the area except for a few
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: year and a half.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Year old Bucks.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: And she walks off and I see I finally see
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: him out of the corner of my eye. And I
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: see him. I'm like, he's coming right for the tree.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: I'm like, please do not walk behind me. I'm like,
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: if you walk behind me, you're gonna win me. Because
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: my thermals were right there. But there's one little narrow
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: path like three feet he would have been right on
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: the tree. He ended up bearing and he went in
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: front of the tree. I watched him through the platform.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: I'm sitting watching them through the platform walk underneath me.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: He's locked on the dough.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: His eyes are locked on the dough, and I finally
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: just slowly stand up, grab my bow and shoot him
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: hardquartering away at fifteen yards and he piles up on
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: the logging road of it after fifty yards and.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Pretty Yeah.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, that's that's what November is all about,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: those moments right there, that's what everyone's working towards. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so for folks that still have their tag in their pockets,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: so I want you to shift gears to November twelfth. Yeah,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: so it's November twelfth, we still have a tag in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: your pocket. Maybe something didn't quite go right, maybe you
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: feel like you're hunting a ghost. What would you tell
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that person for this upcoming week, so November twelfth to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the seventeenth.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Keep on with the grind. I tell a lot of
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: people like the rut. The rout really sucks. Really when
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: you think about it, it's not super fun to hunt
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: because you're in you're sitting there, and it can be
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: extremely boring. I mean, hours on stand the dos have
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: been harassed to the point where they just don't want
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: to get her assed anymore. So they're kind of hanging tight.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: You're waiting for one buck to get up and move through.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Maybe you'll see like a yearling every once in a while,
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: but then all of a sudden, you've got like thirty
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: seconds of just crazy action. Your heart gets beating, and
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: then it's dead again. That's what everybody's waiting for. You
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: just got to keep a positive mindset, keep with grind,
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: keep your butt planet in a tree stand. Do not
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: sit there and like hunt based off of camera intel,
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: because if you have a buck on camera, you already
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: missed him.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: He's gone, he went through that area.
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: And honestly, running cameras and funnels is kind of hard
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: because usually, I mean a funnel doesn't always bottleneck down
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: to like ten yards to where camera is really effective.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's probably a fifty sixty.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: Yard wide funnel and the bucks just kind of run
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: through there.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think Tho's really good advice as far
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: as maybe someone's struggling on man, you know it the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: activity is slowing down, and you know the dose are
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: definitely harassed. I've definitely pressured the farm. Like these are
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: things that all going through their mind right now. Is
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: there any odd ball, throw a dart idea that you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: have for someone that's just like, dude, I've tried everything,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I've hunted my spots, and I'm seeing less and less, dear,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and I just I feel out of the game. Do
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you stick with the plan or do you call an
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: audible or tear through and scout a little bit?
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, scouting at this time of year, to me
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: is kind of a crap shoot because if you go
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: and you find a bunch of rubs, more than likely
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: those rubs were done either when he was with the
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: dough and frustrated and he's already moved on from that area,
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: or they were done most likely late October when they are.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Rubbing a lot, or really early in November when they're rubbing.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: A lot scrapes. They kind of fall off the scrapes.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: I'll actually notice a lot of bucks on camera this
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: time of year. They'll actually skirt on the down wind
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: side of scrapes and I'll just scent check it real quick,
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: unless it's a scrape they've never visited before. I've got
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: videos of this buck actually even walking by a scrape
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: that I know they've never been to before, and they'll
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: put the brakes on and then they'll go visit it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: But then after that they'll treat it like every other
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: scrape and they'll just walk past it and.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Check it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: So I would just say the best thing for you
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: is to plant your butt in a funnel. If there's
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: a water hole on it, that's even better, because that's
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: like the one thing that Bucks will go out of
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: their way for this time of the year is water.
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: Stay off the food sources, because if there's any does
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: on food sources, it's really late at night in my
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: area for cameras. I'm starting to just see on my
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: farms just fonns wandering by themselves, a year and a
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: half year old bucks moving quite a bit, so that
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: kind of tells me that they're with DOES, right now
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: or a lot of doughs. So I'm guessing here, in
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: about twenty four to forty eight hours, I'm gonna see
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: a big flurry of activity on those cameras of newer
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: Bucks running through, going all over the place, and it's
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: going to be another another forty eight to seventy two
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: hours of nothing.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, looking here the extended forecast Saturday, November fifteenth, high
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of sixty nine here in north central Illinois. What do
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you say for that guy that has the Saturday off.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: He's like, it's November fifteenth, it's almost seventy degrees. Do
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I even go? What do you say to that guy?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Don't use that as an excuse not to go.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: The biggest book I've ever killed was on Halloween in
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: nineteen mile an hour winds and it was seventy degrees
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: that day and he was bumping doze all over the place.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so stick with them, Yeah, just stick with it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: This time of year, anything can happen. It's just a grind.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, you just have to be in the stand.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: To do it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: That's everybody loves the rut because it's when the most
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: action happens. And I just yeah, temperature definitely helps movement,
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: but I think it's helping the doze moving than the
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: bucks have to kind of keep up with them. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: when that dough gets up after she's locked down with him,
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: that buck's gonna get up and he's gonna he's gonna
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: move and maybe just a short distance, but maybe that's
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: all it takes.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So looking, you know, knowing that we're gonna have
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: some elevated temperatures between the twelfth and call it, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: guess the nineteenth. On a scale one to ten, what
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: what would you put this? This is that becoming week
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: as far as potential big buck activity.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: So we here we actually have a huge cold front
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: coming I think.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: This weekend. But yeah, so we gotta this will go
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: live on the twelfth.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, I mean elevated temperatures Again, anything
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: can happen.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Does it suck? Yeah? Are they gonna move a little
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: bit more at night? Can it happen? Yeah?
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: The chips aren't exactly stacked completely in your favor, but
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: it's all right. The rut stop. Just I really dislike
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: like hunting forecast apps. I want to if you if
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: you take like a bunch of them, you compare themselves.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: They contradict each other all the time, and then you'll
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: do that. Yeah, You'll sit there and you'll look at
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: it and be like, oh, this says it's a good day,
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, thirty minutes later, it
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: says it's slow.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Scale one to ten. Yeah, scale one to ten with
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: elevated temps from the twelfth to nineteenth. Where do you
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: put it? You gotta we gotta put a hard number on.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: It, probably like six.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, probably it's sick.
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give it like uh ten,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: because again, you don't have the perfect temperatures.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: But it's the rut you.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Think it happened. Yeah, anything comes down to mindset. That's right. Well,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: congratulations on tagging your target buck here man. That that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: is awesome. That's what everyone's that's what everyone's chasing here.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: So congratulations, you made it happen, and I appreciate you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: hopping on here.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, all right.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Next up on the line, we have Jared Larson with
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: on ex Jared, how was your November seventh?
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: Uh? My November seventh was mostly in my car, but
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: I did get did get to the destination for an
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: evening sit. It was not overbly memorable, but we were.
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: It was exploratory, so it was it was solid, saw
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: some new ground, put the boots on some dirt.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: And uh, I'm feeling real good about the next week.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. And so you just
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: wrapped up a hunt in Wisconsin. What was the rud activity,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: deer activity? What was going on up there?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: I was in Wisconsin the last week and we had
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: some really good sits and some really tough sits. You know, personally,
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: I definitely am a little bit of a subscriber to
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: the full moon.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Which obviously just kind of peaked full.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: And I really seem in my anecdotal personal experience that
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: waxing to the full I do a lot better on
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: the evening sits.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Uh, And that that held true this past week. I
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: shot a really good buck.
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: And uh, I mean, he couldn't have cared less about
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: the dos in the field. He was just on a
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: marching mission, laying down scrapes. I mean he literally walked
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: five yards from you know, four dos and never even
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: looked at him.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I'll take him how I can get him.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: But he wasn't too interested in the ladies.
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: We had lots of young deer chasing, you know, a
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: year and a half, two and a half year old deer,
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: three and a half year old deer.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: But the mature bucks that we did.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: See, you know, really really weren't paying that close of
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: attention to the ladies.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, So what date did you shoot that buck?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the shot?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: That book?
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: On?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: November third?
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: The evening of November.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Third, beautiful day. That's a great day to be a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: deer hunter.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: That yep, it historically has been one of my best.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So going into Iowa. Now, so you you packed
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: up as November seventh, and how long do you are
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you pointing to be hunting in Iowa?
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: Yep, So I'll be in Iowa, i believe if Sunday
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: is the seventeenth, and I'll have to head back to
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: Montana on the seventeenth. So we got we got a
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: good full eight nine days of lundon here.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Perfect, Okay. So obviously, unfortunately we're recording this, we have
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: like the cold front of the year where this is
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: likely going to be one of the best activity spurts
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of the year. So when this goes live, hopefully everyone
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: has had so much success. They don't even have to
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: tune into rough Fresh because they don't need to know
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: what's going on, because I already tagged a giant. So
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: but for folks that didn't, so like November twelfth to
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the nineteenth, looking at some potential elevated temperatures, where's your
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: head at?
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: You know, you know here and I will obviously as
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: you mentioned, that cold front is going to be passed
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: by that point, and I think we're looking at lows
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: in the like high twenties, low thirties, heating up to
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: the low sixties during the day, which I really don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: mind that for Iowa here, you know, the late mornings
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: is really what I'm going to be keyed up on again,
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: that waning moon after the full I really am a
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: firm believer in that eight thirty nine am to twelve
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: thirty one pm timeframe. I'm going to be really keyed
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: up on, you know, the down wind side of dough betting.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: And you know, being a guy just like you that
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: hunts a fair amount of public and a fair amount
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: of private, I one thing that lulls me to sleep
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: when I'm hunting private ground is I look at the
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: wind to not get busted by deer, rather than looking
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: at the wind to understand how a deer is going
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: to use that wind. And so that's really something I
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: always have the option to go mobile if the wind
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: is going to be you know, let's say we have
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: a west wind, I'm really going to be keyed up
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: on those east faces where those deer can put the
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: wind at their back that security blanket. So I really
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: try to take my public land hunting mindset into private.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Land when I when I'm hunting the.
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: Rut and just really focusing on what are those deer
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: going to be doing, how are they going to be
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: using that wind to their advantage, rather than just so
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: solely focused on playing the wind to not get busted.
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: I mean to be super candid with you, sometimes I
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: throw caution to.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: The wind this time of year.
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: You know, if I have a spot that I am
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: hot to trot on and I just have a good
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: feeling about it, I'll hunt a bad wind this time
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: of year.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: And it's really the only time of year that I'll
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: So that's what I'm gonna be keyed in on, especially
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: in the mornings, is you know that downwind side of
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: dough betting. I'm in some hillier country, so I'm gonna
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: use the topography to my advantage, using the light hour
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: feature on on X to really find those small nuanced draws, benches,
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: drainages where those deer can put the put the wind
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: at their back, and you know, find that good betting
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: and be down wind to that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: And then in the evenings.
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: You know, a lot of times I'll be pulling all
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: day sits for the most part, but that does not
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: mean I'm gonna be sitting in the same tree all day.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: You know, I'll hunt a morning set on the down
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: wind side of dough betting, but then I'll move to
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: food h in the evening, trying to find those dos
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: because those bucks obviously are going to be keyed up
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: on those those major food sources. So where I'm at,
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: we don't have a whole lot of food plots, but
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: we got egg up the wazoo, as most people do
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: in Iowa. So I really prefer corn this time of
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: year over beans, so I'll be I'll be looking to
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: find some corn fields, find those edges, and you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: early on finding those observation sets. It's hard to do
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: an observation sit sometimes when you're trying to kill them
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: during the rut, But it can really pay dividends to
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: just understand where those dos are coming from, because that
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: also gives you just that tip of the hat as
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: far as knowledge goes on where they're betting. That way,
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: you can just continually reposition yourself to be being the
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: best plot possible because even on private land, you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: you think.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: You know it like the back of your hand, but
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: sometimes you can find just.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: A tricky little spot that that's kind of an aha,
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: light bulb moment.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. How closely have you been paying attention to
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the deer movement forecast and onyx have you been? Have
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you been testing this each day? Like, well, this is
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: above average below average based off of because that's a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: new that's a new feature that I think a lot
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: of people don't know about. You just clicked the weather icon.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I had to ask you how to do it. So
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: what have you been seeing with this? Has it been
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: matching up?
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: So I've been trying to take daily screenshots like a
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: couple of days out for the deer movement forecast day of.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: And honestly, dude, I've been I've been pretty impressed.
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: I would say that our deer movement forecast is maybe
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: a little bit pessimistic in our percent chance of movement,
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: but I'm okay with that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I'd rather tell people they have a fifty percent chance
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: been one hundred percent chance.
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: Because, as every single one of you listening knows, there
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: is no one hundred percent chance day. Uh and if
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: nothing else, you know, use that deer movement forecast as
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: that little subtle nudge to uh not watch football on
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: Sunday and get your butt out to a tree stand
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: if it's gonna be you know, above a forty percent movement.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Chance, you know.
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: And it's all based on you know, data from machine learning,
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: trail camera photo intake, as well as all the typical
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: weather parameters barometric pressure, temperature, moon phase, all that stuff
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: goes into account.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: So I've definitely been paying attention to it.
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: But as with any piece of technology, the only way
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: to not kill a deer is to not be hunting.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Perfectly well said, that is the essence and epitome of
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: November deer hunting. But for the guy that's like, man,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I've just been getting my teeth kicked in. I'm do
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I even know how to deer hunt, Like I'm doing
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: everything wrong is what it feels like. What do you
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: say to that guy, Because there's a lot of people
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: that are going to feel like this if they don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: capitalize on this cold front that happens before this goes live.
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: You know, I think the word it's a grind gets
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: used a lot in the whitetail world especially, And at
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: the end of the day, if you're feeling like it's
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: a grind, take a day off, you know, sweep.
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  Speaker 3: In until eight thirty in the morning, go out there at.
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  Speaker 8: Nine am and hunt that like cruisan scent check in
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  Speaker 8: time of the day, you know, if you're not having fun,
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: but like, take take a break. Hunting is supposed to
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: be fun. It's supposed to be enjoyable, you know. I
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  Speaker 8: think everybody wants to chase that five and a half
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  Speaker 8: six and a half, you know, seven and a half
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  Speaker 8: year old deer. But at the end of the day, man,
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: if you're ready to loosen arrow and a three year
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: old walks by that you're excited about and you're gonna
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: be happy with and you're gonna be proud of, give
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: it to them.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so with knowing that
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: temperature as gonna be a little bit elevated. So hones
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: scale one to ten, where do you put the next
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: seven days? The twelfth of the nineteenth and ten being
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the this is the best week ever, one being I'm
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: not even gonna go.
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  Speaker 8: Where I am in Iowa historically. You know, we've hunted
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  Speaker 8: this farm for twenty five years.
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  Speaker 3: There is no better time.
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  Speaker 8: This is the time, you know, I would really kind
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: of bracket it from November ninth to November fifteenth as
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  Speaker 8: like the best days where we're at in Iowa. But
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  Speaker 8: I would say the later that November progresses, call it
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: like the fifteenth through the twenty second. What we've noticed
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: is more mature bucks are on their feet.
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  Speaker 3: You're not gonna be in that rut.
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  Speaker 8: Crazed phase of you know, one two three year old
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: deer just running everywhere and chasing. But when you do
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  Speaker 8: see a buck, there's an elevated chance that it's gonna
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: be a mature dear.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, those sits can get tough.
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  Speaker 8: You know, you're you're definitely entering the more likely of
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: lockdown phase. I think you know from today November seventh
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  Speaker 8: all the way through that fifteenth is when you know
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  Speaker 8: a lot of the dos are gonna come into Estris,
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: so you're gonna have.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Some empty sits.
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: You know, if you haven't ever been skunked deer hunting,
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: you're either really blessed or you ain't.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Been hunting enough. So you know, I would say stay
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: out there. And one thing that I've.
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: Really started to key in on in the last couple
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: of years is water. You know, like I think water
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  Speaker 8: can be better than a dang bait pile. There's one
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  Speaker 8: thing that deer need to do every single day, and
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: that is drink water.
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  Speaker 3: They can go a day.
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  Speaker 8: Without eating, they can go, you know, a day without
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: doing whatever that a deer does, except water. So we
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: have a couple strategic, you know, pieces of water on
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: our property, and we also have a creep that runs
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  Speaker 8: through it. But I saw a really interesting post recently
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  Speaker 8: that resonated with me that deer don't prefer to drink
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  Speaker 8: from moving water for a couple of reasons. A there's
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: there's noise to it, right, and when a deer is drinking,
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  Speaker 8: their head is down, their nose is in the water.
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  Speaker 3: They're completely reliant on their ears.
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  Speaker 8: And so I've noticed at the properties that I hunt
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: that have running water, deer seem to prefer little still ponds,
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: you know, twenty gallon buckets that are buried in the ground,
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: and that's exactly what we have at this Iowa farm.
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: We got three or four, you know, ten to twenty
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  Speaker 8: gallon buckets that we're definitely going to be filling up
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: the first couple of days here, and I'm gonna be
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: keying in on that water, especially in those warmer late mornings.
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  Speaker 8: You know, a buck before he goes back to bed,
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: and the first thing he does when he gets up,
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: he's probably gonna be looking for a drink. So with
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: the warmer temperatures, I would key it on water. If
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  Speaker 8: you have moving water and that's all you got, go
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: on it. If you got still water, go on it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Well. Jared, good luck here with an
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Iowa tag already shot out Wisconsin buck. It's a pleasure.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: And keep keep checking in on the benchmarking the forecasting
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: app because that's an unfor like everyone's like, well they
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: have said this, so you guys are giving yeah, well, Jared,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Jake, good luck everybody.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: There, you guys have I hope you guys enjoyed this
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: week's episode of Retfresh. Good Luck over the next week.
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  Speaker 1: I know conditions aren't perfect. You're probably tired, you're probably
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: questioning everything, you're questioning your preparation. But if there was
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: one theme here for today, it's a stick to it,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: stick to it, hunt smart, and you're going to get
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the lucky balance, lucky break, or strategic break or a
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: strategic bounce that is going to help you finish out
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: this season or finish out this part of November before
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: things start to wind out. You know, we're on the
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: on the decline of the peak of the mountainous, Kevin said,
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  Speaker 1: so be sure to capitalize it, enjoy this time period,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: don't wish it away, and get out there and good luck.
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