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Lights Out For Iran · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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Speaker 1: It's six eastern it's three o'clock pacific this is a
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Speaker 1: president of action coast to coast and around the world
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Speaker 1: from the america out loud talk radio studios.
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Speaker 2: If he says he's serious about something he means it.
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Speaker 1: It's time for the truth be told with booker scott.
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Speaker 3: As we start this Monday night, we have to consider
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Speaker 3: we're only mere hours away from a deadline that Donald
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Speaker 3: Trump put on the Iranian government this weekend. He said,
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Speaker 3: open the Strait of Hormuz, and if you don't, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to put out your lights. We wait for that
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Speaker 3: here in the next few hours. I'm Booker Scott. This
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Speaker 3: is The Truth Be Told. As always on Mondays, we
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Speaker 3: have Matt Palumbo, and Matt joins the conversation every Monday
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Speaker 3: night with Mondays with Matt. And Matt, it was a
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Speaker 3: busy week last week. I think we're going to have
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Speaker 3: more of the same coming up this week. It just
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Speaker 3: seems to never stop.
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Speaker 4: I think that's going to be every week for the
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Speaker 4: next couple of years.
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Speaker 3: I think so.
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Speaker 4: To be fair, I guess you're 100% correct.
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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to get into the Iranian situation. By
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Speaker 3: the way, there are 12 Americans dead now in that
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Speaker 3: conflict that's taking place over there. We're going to get
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Speaker 3: into that in a few minutes. But I want to
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Speaker 3: start the hour with the death of Robert Mueller. He
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Speaker 3: died over the weekend. He was 81 years old. And
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump put this post out. I'll read this. I'll
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Speaker 3: also have it in a clip here in just a
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Speaker 3: few minutes as well. But this is what he said.
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Speaker 3: He said, Robert Mueller just died. Good. I'm glad he's dead.
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Speaker 3: He can no longer hurt innocent people. And that's from
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Speaker 3: President Donald J.
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Speaker 1: Trump.
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Speaker 3: What do you think of that comment from Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: over the weekend?
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Speaker 4: There's a few things that surprised me when Trump says something,
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Speaker 4: and the liberals are all freaking out, like, can you
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Speaker 4: believe he said this and that? And I'm like, well,
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Speaker 4: if you've seen the guy for the past 40 years,
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Speaker 4: of course he would say that. This is one of
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Speaker 4: those rare exceptions where even I was surprised he said it.
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Speaker 4: And I'm wondering what changed where this is something he
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Speaker 4: would say, because obviously it's not the first time one
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Speaker 4: of his enemies has died. I have the thought that
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Speaker 4: You know, he was very, very close to Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 4: And he obviously probably saw thousands, if not hundreds of thousands,
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Speaker 4: maybe even that many people celebrating his death and attacking
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Speaker 4: his widow. And I'm wondering if that is what motivated
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Speaker 4: it to some extent to say, if you're going to
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Speaker 4: do it to us, we're going to do it to you.
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Speaker 4: You know, listen, given how vicious the left is, I
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Speaker 4: can't say I care that much. But to be speaking objectively,
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Speaker 4: it's not exactly the kind of behavior I want to
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Speaker 4: see from a president.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. But Robert Mueller had a
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Speaker 3: really good career when it came to Vietnam, and then
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Speaker 3: he was the FBI director. There may be some questions there.
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Speaker 3: I think the part that he has a problem with
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Speaker 3: is the Russian hoax investigation, the Mueller investigation. Here is
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Speaker 3: a clip from over the weekend with Scott Bassett, and
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Speaker 3: this was on Face the Nation.
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Speaker 5: By President Trump from yesterday responding to the death of
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Speaker 5: former special counsel Robert Mueller. He posted this quote, Robert
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Speaker 5: Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead. He can
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Speaker 5: no longer hurt innocent people. Do you think it's appropriate
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Speaker 5: for the President of the United States to celebrate the
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Speaker 5: death of an American citizen, someone who's a Bronze Star,
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Speaker 5: Purple Heart recipient, and who served in Vietnam?
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Speaker 6: Kristen, I was with the President in the green room
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Speaker 6: at Davos, and there was a video playing of what happened.
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Speaker 6: may have been an illegal raid on his home at Mar-a-Lago.
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Speaker 6: They are going through his wife's wardrobe and I watched
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Speaker 6: the look in his eye and I think that neither
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Speaker 6: one of us can understand what has been done to
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Speaker 6: the president and to his family.
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Speaker 5: But to the question of the president's post, I mean,
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Speaker 5: Robert Mueller didn't order that raid. Is it appropriate for
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Speaker 5: the president to celebrate the death of any American citizen?
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Speaker 6: Again, I think that given what has been done to
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Speaker 6: President Trump and his family, it is impossible for either
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Speaker 6: of us to understand what he has been through.
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Speaker 5: So you don't think that there's anything wrong with the posts?
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Speaker 3: And she's going to keep trying there, Matt, but she's
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Speaker 3: going to be unsuccessful. Yeah, she gets nowhere with Scott Besant.
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Speaker 3: And I would suggest that that is probably the reason
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Speaker 3: why we're seeing what we're seeing from Donald Trump. We
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Speaker 3: had that raid on Mar-a-Lago where they went through his
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Speaker 3: wife's underwear. And I don't think that that's going to
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Speaker 3: be forgiven by Donald Trump anytime ever. I really don't.
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Speaker 3: And if you go back to Erica Kirk and when
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Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk died, I remember Donald Trump saying this on
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Speaker 3: the stage in his memorial that, you know, you're better
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Speaker 3: at forgiving than I am. It's just not something I
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Speaker 3: would do. And I think we're seeing that in this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have to remember, too, I mean, I
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Speaker 4: know 10 years ago in political years, it was like
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Speaker 4: a million years, but it did sort of overshadow his
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Speaker 4: entire first term. Every single thing he did or said
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Speaker 4: was reported on basically every network outside of Fox and,
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm talking about TV particularly, and every other
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Speaker 4: network as, oh, this is to benefit the Russians, it
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Speaker 4: has to do with Putin, blah, blah, blah. And It
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Speaker 4: was just the number one talking point against him and
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Speaker 4: also something they were trying to put him in jail over.
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Speaker 4: And Robert Mueller's report, you know, did basically end up
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Speaker 4: exonerating him. But it was the process that was the punishment.
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Speaker 4: It was, you know, they tried to make Mueller into this, like,
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Speaker 4: superhero Ted character with Avenatti. And it is hilarious that
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Speaker 4: Avenatti is now in jail. And, you know, he was
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Speaker 4: the one they thought was going to put Trump in jail, like,
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Speaker 4: to find better heroes.
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Speaker 3: But.
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Speaker 4: The fact that Mueller's report ended up finding nothing and
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Speaker 4: basically exonerating Trump, there was no narrative shift from the
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Speaker 4: left to, oh, dang, I guess we got that one wrong.
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Speaker 4: We put all our faith in this one guy and
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Speaker 4: he disproved us. No, the myth continued. So the fact
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Speaker 4: that his report ended up finding Trump did nothing wrong
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Speaker 4: is kind of irrelevant. He still helped further a witch hunt.
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Speaker 4: And The left doesn't really talk about it that much anymore,
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Speaker 4: but you still will see the memes or arguments that
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Speaker 4: Trump's in bed with Putin and all that, and he's
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Speaker 4: clearly not.
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Speaker 3: Well, we knew when Robert Mueller was doing that investigation
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Speaker 3: that his mind was gone a lot anyway at that point.
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Speaker 3: Soon after it, he was put in memory care facility,
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Speaker 3: so I think that we all knew what was going on,
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Speaker 3: and he was put in that position. He really had
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with it. It was Jack Smith and
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Speaker 3: those attorneys that were doing things Here's Devin Nunes. He
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Speaker 3: was obviously a big member of the House of Representatives
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Speaker 3: when all of that was going on. He's the CEO
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Speaker 3: of Truth Social now. Here he is from the Wayback Machine.
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Speaker 7: It wasn't just about all the corruption that they did
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Speaker 7: to create and manufacture the Russia hoax.
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Speaker 4: The Mueller investigation.
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Speaker 7: Itself was a hoax and was illegal. When Mueller walked
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Speaker 7: into that door, how many times did I say it?
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Speaker 4: He said, where are the Russians? Oh, sir, there are none.
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Speaker 4: Why didn't Mueller leave? Why don't all those people work
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Speaker 4: for years?
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Speaker 7: Why did they hide the information from Congress for so
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Speaker 7: many years? I think you're going to find many of
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Speaker 7: those top-level lawyers and FBI agents, as Cash said, did
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Speaker 7: not conduct themselves in a professional manner. And I think
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Speaker 7: if interviewed again, you could maybe get to the bottom
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Speaker 7: of it. But look, you have two guys that want
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Speaker 7: to get to the bottom of it.
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Speaker 4: I have every faith that they will.
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Speaker 3: And he is referencing their Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.
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Speaker 3: Bongino no longer with the FBI. But don't forget, there
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Speaker 3: is a grand jury in South Florida that is investigating
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Speaker 3: this whole thing. Comey, Jim Comey, was subpoenaed last week
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Speaker 3: for that grand jury.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and hopefully something will stick with Comey this time.
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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, we were, I mean, I would say humiliated
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Speaker 4: with the way the last charge just went. Also, with
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Speaker 4: Devin Nunes, fun fact, he's also running his own wine company.
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Speaker 4: He's diversified beyond true social.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's excellent. Good to know. Matt brings all types
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Speaker 3: of things.
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Speaker 4: I can't remember who reached out to me that worked
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Speaker 4: for him years ago. They put me on some list,
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Speaker 4: so every Christmas I get wine from Devin Nunes, and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot about that guy. Cool.
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Speaker 3: Well, we started this hour with what is coming in Iran.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump puts out a post over the weekend that says,
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Speaker 3: if you don't open up the Strait of Hormuz, we're
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Speaker 3: going to come and we're going to bomb your energy.
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Speaker 3: We're going to come after you. And that's going to
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Speaker 3: put a lot of people in the dark in Iran.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's good or bad. Here's my question,
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Speaker 3: as I've been thinking about it over the weekend since
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Speaker 3: this started. He put a 48-hour time limit. That time
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Speaker 3: limit comes up Monday night around 9 o'clock. If you're
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Speaker 3: listening on a podcast, we're already past that, so maybe
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Speaker 3: you already know what happened. If you're listening live, obviously
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Speaker 3: we're still a few hours away from that. How do
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Speaker 3: we know when the Strait of Hormuz is going to
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Speaker 3: be opened? Because the Strait of Hormuz is closed because
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Speaker 3: of the proximity to the land of Iran where they
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Speaker 3: can shoot drones and missiles into ships. It's not like
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Speaker 3: there's a gate and they almost have no navy left.
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Speaker 3: So how are we going to know that that has
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Speaker 3: taken place?
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Speaker 4: I guess they have to tell us if they take
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Speaker 4: their word for it.
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Speaker 3: Well, they've already said they're not going to. Well, that's
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Speaker 3: the thing.
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Speaker 4: If they were going, it's the only way. I don't
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Speaker 4: think bombing energy infrastructure is the right way to go
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Speaker 4: about it just because There is going to be mass
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Speaker 4: panic in the markets in the aftermath. And I don't
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Speaker 4: want to be spending $ 12 a gallon for gas, even
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Speaker 4: if it is a short-lived thing. Listen, I mean, we've
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Speaker 4: been doing pretty well in killing every single leader and
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Speaker 4: person of power in the country. I think you can
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Speaker 4: have very credible threats in that realm if you want
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Speaker 4: to threaten these people.
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Speaker 3: Well, they're running out of military targets. They are. They
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Speaker 3: are down to about 118 wheelers with missiles on them.
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Speaker 3: Over the weekend, we found out that Iran lied again
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Speaker 3: back on March 8th when the foreign minister said our missiles,
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Speaker 3: our ballistic missiles cannot go over. 2,000 kilometers, which is
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Speaker 3: about 1,200 miles. Diego Garcia was bombed over the weekend,
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Speaker 3: which is more like 2,500 miles, 4,000 kilometers. So that
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Speaker 3: puts Europe and NATO into the path of a possible
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Speaker 3: ballistic missile coming from Iran. And then you have to wonder,
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Speaker 3: is that an imminent threat? Is there intelligence somewhere that
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump had that said, hey, they have these missiles.
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Speaker 3: They can go there. They have told us they have
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Speaker 3: 60 percent enriched uranium and they have a lot of it.
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Speaker 3: Who knows? Maybe they were only weeks away from having
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Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon. And maybe that's why we're seeing what
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Speaker 3: we're seeing.
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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, our intel must have found something. Although
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we might be answering the question
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Speaker 4: of like, you know, who opened the Strait of Hormuz
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Speaker 4: and how will we know? I mean, if they're close
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Speaker 4: to being militarily decimated, if we get to the point
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Speaker 4: where they can't defend it, then that also is the
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Speaker 4: same as opening it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there are a lot of lone wolves,
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Speaker 3: guys in John Boats and an outboard that are going
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Speaker 3: around causing problems out there. And I say John boats,
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Speaker 3: their speed boats, their Navy is pretty much decimated at
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Speaker 3: this point when it comes to ships and ships that
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Speaker 3: would put mines out there. Those are sunk. They're at
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Speaker 3: the bottom of the ocean there. Let's go to Margaret
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Speaker 3: Brennan and let's get into the way the American people
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Speaker 3: are feeling. You brought up paying $ 12 a gallon for gas.
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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to do that. And most Americans are against this.
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Speaker 8: Here at Holmes, The most measurable thing seems to be
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Speaker 8: the price at the gas pump. How are people feeling
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Speaker 8: about the economy?
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Speaker 9: They have noticed the increase in gas prices.
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Speaker 4: Of course.
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Speaker 9: Big, big number. See, now they've gone up. But it's
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Speaker 9: the impact more broadly on the economy. They think the
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Speaker 9: war is having both a short-term impact on gas prices.
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Speaker 9: and weakening the economy. But also I asked about the
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Speaker 9: long term, because you hear the argument out there, well,
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Speaker 9: it'll just take patience and let's ride this out. But
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Speaker 9: even in the long term, folks are not convinced that
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Speaker 9: there's going to be an improvement in the economy and
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Speaker 9: also that larger increase in gas prices. The other part
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Speaker 9: of this too is they see this as a war
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Speaker 9: of choice as opposed to necessity and what that does
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Speaker 9: is it comes back to this are you willing to
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Speaker 9: have patience right now at least as far as gas
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Speaker 9: prices are concerned most people say they don't think americans
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Speaker 9: should be willing to pay higher prices for it.
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Speaker 3: And matt i think most americans feel that way and
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Speaker 3: i believe most americans would feel that way and the
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Speaker 3: poll would come out the same way regardless of what
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Speaker 3: war it is americans just don't want any more war
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Speaker 3: we spent 20 years in the They don't differentiate this
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Speaker 3: from that, do they?
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Speaker 4: No, and the polling I've seen is basically two to
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Speaker 4: one against it overall. Now, among MAGA Republicans, it's like
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Speaker 4: basically 100% in support. Among Republicans who don't call themselves
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Speaker 4: MAGA Republicans, it's a two-thirds support. But overall, so I
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Speaker 4: should say, we're probably not going to be losing Republican
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Speaker 4: votes in the midterms over this. But the rest of
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Speaker 4: the country that is not Republican is very, very unpopular.
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Speaker 4: And at first, It was probably more popular just because
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Speaker 4: there weren't any noticeable consequences. It was, okay, cool, we
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Speaker 4: took out the Ayatollah, great. Now that there's a cost
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Speaker 4: for it, and we're seeing it at the pump. And actually,
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Speaker 4: you know it in the past episode, too. The costs
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Speaker 4: are a bit premature in that it should not– the
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Speaker 4: lag between– When oil prices go up and then when
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Speaker 4: it translates to the pump, usually it can take weeks
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Speaker 4: to months.
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Speaker 3: It's four to six weeks. I did research on this
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Speaker 3: years ago. Yeah, it's four to six weeks.
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Speaker 4: This happened pretty much instantly. So, you know, sellers basically decided,
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Speaker 4: all right, we're going to bake in the cost now.
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Speaker 4: They are exploiting it to some extent. But within a
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Speaker 4: few weeks, it will become... you know, quote, I say,
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Speaker 4: real price, whatever you want to call it. It's going
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Speaker 4: to be solidified. So, you know, I do think it
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Speaker 4: would be in the best interest to wrap this up
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Speaker 4: relatively quickly and chalk it up as a victory. I
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Speaker 4: don't know if this turns into, you know, Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Speaker 4: It is going to be a stand on the presidency
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Speaker 4: and will cost us down the road.
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Speaker 3: I had Lieutenant Colonel Dan Gobb, Darren Gobb, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: He's been on the program five or six times. He
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Speaker 3: was on last week. And he's a military planner, intelligence guy,
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Speaker 3: and He was talking about boots on the ground. A
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Speaker 3: lot of people are fearful of that. And he made
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Speaker 3: a really good comment that I had not thought of.
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Speaker 3: And you may not, well, you're not going to remember
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Speaker 3: it because you don't remember the first Gulf War. But
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Speaker 3: in the first Gulf War, there was a huge buildup
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Speaker 3: of troops. It took two months. We had half a
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Speaker 3: million people in the desert in Saudi Arabia before we
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Speaker 3: went into Kuwait to move Iraq and Saddam Hussein out
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Speaker 3: of there. We're not seeing any of that. So that
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Speaker 3: should come as a comfort to those people that believe
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Speaker 3: there's going to be boots on the ground because I
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Speaker 3: don't see that that's going to happen. Here's some sound
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Speaker 3: from The Weeknd, Scott Bassett with Kristen Welker.
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Speaker 5: NBC News is reporting that President Trump is considering sending.
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Speaker 2: Troops into Iran.
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Speaker 5: Will the administration use troops to secure the Strait of
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Speaker 5: Hormuz or for any other reason, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Secretary?
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Speaker 6: Again, as President Trump said during the press break, Yesterday,
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Speaker 6: when he was going out to Marine One, he's not
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Speaker 6: going to give away what we're going to do. As
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Speaker 6: President Trump always does, he's leaving all options on the table.
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Speaker 6: We had a very successful bombing campaign against the military
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Speaker 6: installations at Karg Island, the Nexus. for all the Iranian
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Speaker 6: oil supply. What could happen with Karg Island? We'll see.
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Speaker 6: And again, just to be clear, the command and control
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Speaker 6: system of the Iranian regime is in chaos. This is
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Speaker 6: Hitler's bunker.
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Speaker 3: Hitler is dead.
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Speaker 6: Himmler is dead. Goring is dead. The Most of what
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Speaker 6: you're seeing are lone wolf activities. The mid-range ICBM that
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Speaker 6: was shot off, these two missiles yesterday, that's out of desperation, Kristen.
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Speaker 3: I see it that way too, Matt, that they are
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Speaker 3: pretty desperate right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I see it that way as well. And
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Speaker 4: then they also have to, who's the guy they're now
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Speaker 4: claiming is gay? So now they've got a PR battle
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Speaker 4: on their hands.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy in charge. He's missing a leg. He's
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Speaker 3: missing a leg or two.
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Speaker 4: I'm losing track of all the leaders. We've gone to
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Speaker 4: like eight in a week. So now not only have
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Speaker 4: they decimated, they now have to evade some high school
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Speaker 4: bullying on the media's behalf. So it's not good for
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Speaker 4: them at all.
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Speaker 3: Well, Scott Besant is pretty sharp, I believe. We didn't
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Speaker 3: get another rate reduction from the Fed, and Jerome Powell's
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Speaker 3: leaving pretty soon anyway, and that's a good thing. Another
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Speaker 3: thing I want to bring up about Scott Besant, something
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Speaker 3: he said months ago that you and I talked about,
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Speaker 3: I think we talked about it briefly on a program
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Speaker 3: one night. I think we talked about it privately additionally,
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Speaker 3: and that was the big tax returns that so many
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Speaker 3: were anticipating were going to be so much higher. They
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Speaker 3: kept talking about the you know, the tax breaks and
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Speaker 3: the big, beautiful bill is going to bring much bigger
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Speaker 3: refunds and I kind of pushed back at the time
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Speaker 3: and said, well, the only people really are going to
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Speaker 3: get a bigger tax refund are going to be those
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Speaker 3: that worked a lot of overtime. Because there weren't additional
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Speaker 3: tax cuts in the Big Beautiful Bill other than $ 200
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Speaker 3: child care. And that was pretty much it. You had
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Speaker 3: no tax on tips, and that really doesn't affect a
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Speaker 3: tax return or refund. And then you had no tax
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Speaker 3: on overtime and Social Security. Those were really the three
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Speaker 3: things that were different from what we had. And what
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Speaker 3: I am seeing right now, I did some research on
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Speaker 3: this last week that I think that we were right
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Speaker 3: because right now the average refund is about $ 200 more
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Speaker 3: than it was last year. And now the American people
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20:48
Speaker 3: let's get back to the conversation and Iran. Overall, I
20:51
Speaker 3: think that Donald Trump has to get out of there
20:54
Speaker 3: real quick. And I think he has to do it
20:57
Speaker 3: for the gas prices, for the economy. And I think
20:59
Speaker 3: he has to do it for the midterm. This thing
21:01
Speaker 3: cannot drag on for a long period of time.
21:05
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think the midterms were going to be
21:08
Speaker 4: a challenge even before this, but this is just another
21:11
Speaker 4: layer on top of it. A, the war, but then B,
21:14
Speaker 4: the one-two punch of animals to the gas prices on
21:17
Speaker 4: top of it. When you run on cost of living,
21:21
Speaker 4: I don't think you should be... It obviously looks discrediting
21:24
Speaker 4: or bad when gas prices are going up, even if
21:27
Speaker 4: it's only going to be a short-term thing, but hopefully
21:30
Speaker 4: it is only a short-term thing.
21:31
Speaker 3: People need to understand that this is not because there
21:35
Speaker 3: isn't product. It's because the product can't get to where
21:39
Speaker 3: it's supposed to go. So if the Strait of Hormuz
21:41
Speaker 3: is opened up, the product's going to get there, and
21:44
Speaker 3: the product is continuing to be brought out of the ground.
21:47
Speaker 3: And by the way, I saw that the LNG production
21:52
Speaker 3: of one of the nations there, I don't remember which
21:54
Speaker 3: one it is in the Middle East, they got hit
21:56
Speaker 3: pretty good, and America is going to replace that production.
22:00
Speaker 3: So there's plenty of production of energy throughout the world.
22:03
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of getting it to where it
22:05
Speaker 3: needs to go. Kristen Welker, she was with Scott Bassett
22:08
Speaker 3: over the weekend. She talked about the Russian sanctions and
22:11
Speaker 3: the fact that the administration has lifted those sanctions so
22:15
Speaker 3: other countries can buy that oil.
22:17
Speaker 5: The administration did use oil sanctions on Russia earlier this month.
22:21
Speaker 5: You had initially defended imposing those sanctions, calling Russian exports, quote,
22:26
Speaker 5: oil that funds the Russian war machine. If the point
22:29
Speaker 5: of the sanctions was to stop funding the Russian war machine,
22:32
Speaker 5: why is the administration effectively rewarding Russia now?
22:35
Speaker 6: Again, Kristen, you're missing the point.
22:37
Speaker 2: Which is better?
22:40
Speaker 6: Does Russia get more money if oil goes to 150
22:42
Speaker 6: and they get 70% of that? That's 105. Or if
22:47
Speaker 6: oil stays below 100? So they're getting less money. Our
22:50
Speaker 6: analysis shows that the maximum extra amount that Russia could
22:56
Speaker 6: get would be $ 2 billion, which is one day's of
23:02
Speaker 6: the Russian Federation's budget.
23:03
Speaker 5: But understood, but they wouldn't have gotten any of that with.
23:06
Speaker 4: The sanctions in place.
23:07
Speaker 3: I don't know.
23:07
Speaker 4: But would they have gotten any of that in place?
23:11
Speaker 6: Whoever does your research, you should get rid of, because
23:14
Speaker 6: they were getting it. It was going into China. China
23:17
Speaker 6: was buying over 90% of the Russian oil.
23:20
Speaker 5: But what's the point of sanctions if not to punish Russia,
23:23
Speaker 5: if not to punish countries?
23:25
Speaker 11: Again, it.
23:27
Speaker 6: We have no ability to do that to China. If
23:30
Speaker 6: China wants to be a bad actor, but we were
23:35
Speaker 6: substantially able to degrade their.
23:38
Speaker 3: Matt, I agree with him that whoever does her research
23:42
Speaker 3: is dumber than a box of rocks. I don't even
23:45
Speaker 3: know if they should be fired. I think that that's
23:47
Speaker 3: just the way they think. Because you put sanctions on
23:49
Speaker 3: Russian oil doesn't mean people quit buying it. Look at India.
23:53
Speaker 3: I think India is a good example. They didn't quit
23:56
Speaker 3: buying it. Then Trump said, I'm going to put a
23:58
Speaker 3: higher tariff on you. They said, we don't care. We're
24:00
Speaker 3: still going to buy their oil because even with the
24:02
Speaker 3: tariff on the amount of trade we do together, it's
24:05
Speaker 3: cheaper for our people to have the cheaper oil from Russia.
24:09
Speaker 3: But I think Besant makes some really good points there.
24:12
Speaker 3: If the oil went up to $ 150 a barrel, then
24:16
Speaker 3: Russia is just going to make more money because they're
24:18
Speaker 3: going to sell their oil. And for whatever reason, NBC
24:21
Speaker 3: and Kristen Welker they couldn't get it through their thick
24:23
Speaker 3: head on that.
24:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that was really good. I can't even call
24:26
Speaker 4: it spin. It's just the facts. It was actually a
24:28
Speaker 4: very smart answer. Um, and then plus the fact that,
24:32
Speaker 4: you know, quantifying it as, okay, it's only one day
24:35
Speaker 4: of their budgets. What is like a quarter of a percent.
24:37
Speaker 4: It was funny that you came back with, well, it
24:39
Speaker 4: could be zero. And it's like, it basically is. So
24:43
Speaker 4: fire yourself.
24:44
Speaker 12: Yeah.
24:44
Speaker 3: She is not very smart. I don't think, um, then
24:48
Speaker 3: we bring in the NATO stuff, the NATO countries. And
24:52
Speaker 3: you had those ICBMs that we talked about earlier. They
24:55
Speaker 3: went a long way. They could actually reach pansy-ass Macron
24:59
Speaker 3: at this point. They could reach Spain, France, Germany with
25:04
Speaker 3: those missiles. And now, do you think they're going to
25:07
Speaker 3: change their tune and actually come help?
25:10
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, did you say France?
25:11
Speaker 3: I did say France. I said Germany. I said Spain.
25:15
Speaker 3: And of course, Spain is on their own anyway. But
25:18
Speaker 3: The point is that these missiles can reach Europe.
25:22
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think they should have from the
25:23
Speaker 4: beginning and then be helping also with the Strait of
25:26
Speaker 4: Hormuz and that we're all sort of in this together.
25:29
Speaker 4: But yes, I think so.
25:31
Speaker 3: And it is bizarre.
25:32
Speaker 4: We didn't know ahead of time that they were lying
25:34
Speaker 4: about their range on their missiles. I mean, maybe we did,
25:36
Speaker 4: but they didn't make it public. But I feel like
25:38
Speaker 4: it's odd we didn't know that in the first place.
25:40
Speaker 3: And another part about that lie is that they're lying
25:43
Speaker 3: about that and most of the things that we hear
25:45
Speaker 3: from them What else are they lying about? Are they
25:48
Speaker 3: lying about nuclear weapons? You know, and then that it
25:51
Speaker 3: could be an imminent threat, which we always get back
25:53
Speaker 3: to the imminent threat because of the War Powers Act
25:55
Speaker 3: and that whole debate that's going on. Let's go to
25:58
Speaker 3: some sound here with Donald Trump on NATO. Very important
26:03
Speaker 3: thing he said here last Tuesday.
26:05
Speaker 4: I think NATO's making a very foolish mistake.
26:08
Speaker 3: And I've long said that, you know.
26:10
Speaker 4: I wonder whether or not NATO would ever be.
26:13
Speaker 13: There for us. So this was a great test.
26:16
Speaker 2: Because we're in there.
26:17
Speaker 3: What do you think, Matt? Is this a real test
26:20
Speaker 3: for NATO? Have they showed us who they really are
26:23
Speaker 3: at this point?
26:24
Speaker 4: Well, yes, and the fact that we're funding the whole deal.
26:27
Speaker 3: Well, we fund everything for NATO.
26:29
Speaker 4: I was expecting some more help from them, some more solidarity.
26:34
Speaker 3: Well, we have 150,000 troops on the ground in Europe
26:36
Speaker 3: right now. We are their army, and we get into
26:41
Speaker 3: something like this that really protects them as well, and
26:44
Speaker 3: they're nowhere to be found.
26:46
Speaker 4: They've all got TDS, unfortunately.
26:49
Speaker 3: Well, let's go to Margaret Brennan. She had the head
26:51
Speaker 3: of NATO in there. Mark Root, who seems to be
26:55
Speaker 3: maybe an ass-kisser, but he seems to be very supportive
26:57
Speaker 3: of Donald Trump. I'm not sure which one it is.
27:00
Speaker 3: Maybe he was the same way with Joe Biden. But
27:02
Speaker 3: he's really positive on Donald Trump, and here's what that
27:06
Speaker 3: exchange was.
27:07
Speaker 8: Are you worried that this is going to hurt NATO's
27:10
Speaker 8: goals elsewhere.
27:12
Speaker 2: What I know is that we always come together. It
27:14
Speaker 2: was under President Trump's leadership that we had the extremely
27:17
Speaker 2: successful summit in The Hague, where we agreed to spend
27:21
Speaker 2: 5% of our GDPs on defense and therefore equalizing For
27:25
Speaker 2: the first time since Eisenhower, so this is quite some
27:29
Speaker 2: time back in history, equalizing what the Europeans are spending
27:32
Speaker 2: and what the Americans are spending. Not only because it
27:34
Speaker 2: is fair that we all spend the same, and this
27:36
Speaker 2: was a wish from Trump 45, and now it's Trump 47.
27:39
Speaker 2: He got this done, but also because we need it,
27:42
Speaker 2: because of the Russian threat and our other adversaries. Then
27:45
Speaker 2: on Ukraine, it is again the U.S., providing critical intelligence
27:49
Speaker 2: support and a weapons flow, working together with the Europeans
27:53
Speaker 2: to secure Ukraine's fight against the Russians, making sure they
27:56
Speaker 2: have what they need. And now with Iran, I'm absolutely convinced,
28:01
Speaker 2: and I understand the president's frustration that it takes some time,
28:03
Speaker 2: but again, I also ask for some understanding because nations
28:07
Speaker 2: had to prepare for this, not knowing, and for good reasons,
28:10
Speaker 2: about the initial attack on Iran. But now coming together
28:14
Speaker 2: to make sure that we can be able... to secure
28:16
Speaker 2: the Strait of Hormuz.
28:18
Speaker 3: We are three weeks into this, Matt, and it's taking
28:21
Speaker 3: them this long to activate and come help. That should
28:26
Speaker 3: be scary. That's Mark Ruth, the head of the NATO.
28:31
Speaker 4: He was talking a good game. I slightly rescind my
28:34
Speaker 4: past comment. It's nice to see Europeans actually be appreciative
28:40
Speaker 4: for the fact that we're the only reason our countries
28:42
Speaker 4: can afford all their generous welfare programs. We really subsidize
28:47
Speaker 4: the hell out of them.
28:48
Speaker 7: I don't know.
28:48
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just what I'm seeing online, but I feel
28:50
Speaker 4: like they talk down to us quite a bit.
28:54
Speaker 3: Well, he is very supportive of Donald Trump. And like
28:56
Speaker 3: I said, going into the clip, Maybe he's just kissing
28:59
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's ass. I'm not sure. Let's change gears now.
29:03
Speaker 3: Let's leave Iran there as we wait for some response
29:06
Speaker 3: from Donald Trump on Monday night, because the Strait of
29:09
Speaker 3: Hormuz is not open. We just sit and wait what
29:12
Speaker 3: that response will be. Who knows? I guess Donald Trump
29:15
Speaker 3: knows when and where he will do it. And real quick,
29:18
Speaker 3: before we do leave Iran, I want to comment on,
29:21
Speaker 3: and I want your comment too, Matt, because I think
29:24
Speaker 3: there is too much expectation that Donald Trump and the
29:27
Speaker 3: administration should be telegraphing and telling people exactly what we
29:31
Speaker 3: are going to do. That is stupidity in war. You
29:35
Speaker 3: don't do that.
29:36
Speaker 4: Is that Pearl Harbor clip getting queued up?
29:39
Speaker 3: No, I don't even have it ready.
29:41
Speaker 4: No, all right. Well, for the two people who haven't
29:44
Speaker 4: heard it, Trump was asked while he was with the
29:47
Speaker 4: prime minister of Japan by a Japanese reporter, basically along
29:52
Speaker 4: those lines of, why aren't you talking more about your
29:56
Speaker 4: plans in Iran and To which he comes back with,
29:59
Speaker 4: why didn't you tip us off about Pearl Harbor? Which was,
30:03
Speaker 4: I don't know, one of the funniest things Trump has
30:05
Speaker 4: ever said. The joke kind of bombed in front of
30:08
Speaker 4: who he was telling it to. I thought it was
30:09
Speaker 4: one of his best lines ever. But no, it is
30:12
Speaker 4: a common sense point in that, no, we don't want
30:14
Speaker 4: the enemy to know what we're doing. Even certain senators
30:18
Speaker 4: should probably be excluded from certain meetings. 100%. It's like
30:21
Speaker 4: people like, you know, Elizabeth Warren or probably any real
30:24
Speaker 4: Democrat would leak any information to the media or enemies
30:29
Speaker 4: or enemies, I guess, indirectly to the media. But or
30:32
Speaker 4: maybe even directly, who knows at this point? And then
30:34
Speaker 4: even people like Joe Ken, I think we're going to
30:36
Speaker 4: talk about soon. But we have leakers on both sides. So, no,
30:40
Speaker 4: it is good that this information, this intel is being
30:43
Speaker 4: kept in a very small group of hands.
30:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Let's leave Iran there. We'll come back
30:48
Speaker 3: to Joe Kent, Tucker Carlson here in just a little bit.
30:51
Speaker 3: Let's go to the government shutdown. We're about 40 days
30:55
Speaker 3: into this. People are going nuts over the weekend. It's
30:58
Speaker 3: spring break. They're standing in line for hours at airports.
31:02
Speaker 3: TSA people are calling in sick. They're calling in. They're
31:05
Speaker 3: not coming to work. They're about to miss another paycheck.
31:08
Speaker 3: Here is Democrat Jason Crow from Colorado.
31:11
Speaker 8: But as a Democrat, I mean, look at Denver Airport
31:14
Speaker 8: near your district. They're asking people to donate gift cards
31:16
Speaker 8: for TSA agents to make ends meet. The airport says,
31:21
Speaker 8: you know, this is a huge generator in terms of
31:23
Speaker 8: what the airport does for the region. This is hurting
31:26
Speaker 8: your community. How do you continue to defend the shutdown?
31:30
Speaker 14: I'm going to be really clear that this is a
31:32
Speaker 14: Republican shutdown. Just yesterday, just yesterday, the U.S. Senate held
31:39
Speaker 14: a vote and Senate Democrats put up an authorization to
31:42
Speaker 14: fund everything except for.
31:44
Speaker 3: ICE and CBP.
31:45
Speaker 14: That's Coast Guard. That's TSA. That's cybersecurity. Every single Senate
31:50
Speaker 14: Republican voted against it. In the House, we actually have
31:54
Speaker 14: a bill, Rosa DeLauro and Hakeem Jeffries, we have a
31:56
Speaker 14: clean bill that would force a vote to open up everything,
32:00
Speaker 14: to fund everything except for ICE and CBP. Republicans are
32:04
Speaker 14: stopping it.
32:05
Speaker 3: Let me point out that ICE is already funded for
32:08
Speaker 3: the rest of the fiscal year of 2026. So I
32:11
Speaker 3: don't know what the Democrats are doing here. It's a
32:13
Speaker 3: political game that the American people just don't like. regardless
32:17
Speaker 3: of your politics, whether you're Republican or Democrat, independent. There
32:21
Speaker 3: are people going without paychecks. We watch our government. We
32:24
Speaker 3: watch the chambers of Congress not be able to get
32:28
Speaker 3: things done for the American people. And it's frustrating. I
32:31
Speaker 3: think people are done with it.
32:32
Speaker 13: All, Matt.
32:33
Speaker 4: Well, the framing was idiotic because he goes, it's a
32:35
Speaker 4: Republican shutdown. You know, we agreed to everything except the
32:40
Speaker 4: part where, you know, except the part where we fund
32:43
Speaker 4: the whole reason Donald Trump got elected to remove tens
32:46
Speaker 4: of millions of criminals and murderers and illegal rapists out
32:49
Speaker 4: of our country. Besides that, we wanted to fund everything. Well, that's... Okay,
32:54
Speaker 4: so it's a Democrat shutdown then. It was bizarre to
32:57
Speaker 4: hear him say it's a Republican shutdown and then describe
33:00
Speaker 4: in detail why it was the Democrats responsible.
33:03
Speaker 12: Right.
33:03
Speaker 3: All they have to do is pass it and everybody
33:05
Speaker 3: gets paid. Lines will shrink at the airports. Let's go
33:09
Speaker 3: to the Senate Majority Leader, John Thune, and some comments
33:12
Speaker 3: he made on this.
33:13
Speaker 12: Do you think that that's going to be enough pressure
33:15
Speaker 12: right now to get a deal done?
33:17
Speaker 2: It should be.
33:17
Speaker 15: I mean, I think the Democrats, you know, for 35
33:21
Speaker 15: days now have kept the department shut down. The White
33:25
Speaker 15: House and Republicans have tried repeatedly, reached out, sent them
33:29
Speaker 15: offer sheets. One offer sheet, it took them 18 days
33:32
Speaker 15: to respond to. They don't seem serious. I think they
33:34
Speaker 15: think this is a political winner for them. But it's
33:37
Speaker 15: a losing issue for this country and for the American people.
33:40
Speaker 15: So there was a meeting yesterday. Tom Holman showed up. And,
33:44
Speaker 15: you know, they put all the issues on the table,
33:47
Speaker 15: and it's going to be up to Democrats now to
33:48
Speaker 15: see whether or not. We're going to find out whether
33:50
Speaker 15: they're serious real quick here, because if they don't respond
33:53
Speaker 15: today with some sort of a counterproposal or at least
33:55
Speaker 15: a willingness to get back at the table, I think
33:58
Speaker 15: it suggests that they want to continue to play politics.
34:01
Speaker 3: And I hope that that's not the case. I hope
34:03
Speaker 3: the Democrats do come to the table and get this
34:06
Speaker 3: over with, because, Matt, this is what's happening across the
34:10
Speaker 3: country at airports.
34:12
Speaker 16: Scores of TSA workers have been calling out sick due
34:15
Speaker 16: to missed paychecks, and that has slowed things down. This
34:19
Speaker 16: is what it looked like at LaGuardia earlier this morning.
34:22
Speaker 16: This is the pre-check line. This is supposed to be
34:25
Speaker 16: the easy security screening, snaking around Terminal B, and it's
34:30
Speaker 16: not just here. You can look at airports across the country,
34:32
Speaker 16: because if you go somewhere, you've got to get back.
34:34
Speaker 16: You've got to get through the security line in Atlanta
34:38
Speaker 16: or Fort Lauderdale or Raleigh. Or Los Angeles. Flyers around
34:42
Speaker 16: the country have been dealing with wait times of up
34:45
Speaker 16: to two hours at some airports.
34:48
Speaker 3: And all those people in lines, Matt, they are Democrat, Republicans,
34:52
Speaker 3: they are independents. They don't care. They want to get
34:55
Speaker 3: where they want to go. They want to do it safely.
34:57
Speaker 3: And they're tired of this whole government shutdown thing.
35:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you were saying before I sort of actually
35:05
Speaker 4: spoke into the last clip, we hope Democrats do the
35:08
Speaker 4: right thing and they're not playing politics. And I hope
35:11
Speaker 4: the same and have no evidence whatsoever for that hope, unfortunately.
35:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Matt, there's a bigger story here, I think,
35:19
Speaker 3: that we need to talk about. And it's something I
35:21
Speaker 3: brought up a couple of times. I've written about it.
35:24
Speaker 3: And I hope that it's on the Republicans' radar because
35:27
Speaker 3: this has to do with the midterm election. that if
35:30
Speaker 3: the Republicans are not working on the 27 fiscal year
35:34
Speaker 3: budget right now, getting it to a point of doing
35:37
Speaker 3: another reconciliation like the Big Beautiful Bill so that they
35:40
Speaker 3: can pass it all together as an omnibus prior to
35:44
Speaker 3: September 30th, then that means another continuing resolution. That means
35:48
Speaker 3: another government shutdown, and it will last until the election
35:52
Speaker 3: in early November of this year. And it's going to
35:54
Speaker 3: be just terrible for the Republicans. You mentioned earlier that
35:59
Speaker 3: it's an uphill battle anyway already for the midterms. I
36:02
Speaker 3: see it that way, too. If I had to put
36:04
Speaker 3: a number on it right now, I would say that
36:06
Speaker 3: the Republicans will probably lose 35 seats. Oh, easily. Yeah,
36:10
Speaker 3: that's where I see it, which would be the same
36:12
Speaker 3: that Ronald Reagan lost in 1982. But if the government
36:16
Speaker 3: is shut down, it could be worse than that. And
36:19
Speaker 3: you could also lose the Senate, which I really don't
36:21
Speaker 3: think the Republicans are going to lose the Senate completely.
36:24
Speaker 3: They may lose a seat or two, but I don't
36:26
Speaker 3: think they're going to lose power unless there is another
36:29
Speaker 3: government shutdown, more continuing resolutions. And if the Republicans do
36:33
Speaker 3: not get this done with another reconciliation, it's going to
36:37
Speaker 3: be trouble.
36:38
Speaker 4: I mean, it's unfortunate that I, you know, fortunately, I
36:42
Speaker 4: have to agree. But yeah, no, that's pretty much what
36:44
Speaker 4: it's like now. We saw last election cycle. I mean,
36:47
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was just the government shutdown,
36:49
Speaker 4: but the Democrats did deliberately let it bleed into November.
36:55
Speaker 4: We saw a lot of blowout elections, all in Democrats' favor. And,
36:58
Speaker 4: you know, to have that set up again will be catastrophic.
37:03
Speaker 4: As for the Senate, I don't think we'll lose it,
37:05
Speaker 4: but it was the other day, like at 50-50 in
37:08
Speaker 4: public markets. So there are some people placing bets that
37:11
Speaker 4: it's like 50-50 odds that we lose it. I think
37:13
Speaker 4: they'll be wrong, but we could lose a seat or two, yeah.
37:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. And I think we should
37:19
Speaker 3: probably explain to people what Polymarket and Calchi, these other ones,
37:24
Speaker 3: they are predictive markets. Explain how that works, Matt, because
37:29
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people don't really understand that
37:32
Speaker 3: it's not a bookie that you're betting. It's just what
37:36
Speaker 3: people are feeling. And that's a little bit different than
37:40
Speaker 3: betting at Las Vegas.
37:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, I should preface this by
37:44
Speaker 4: saying that I think you and I are the only
37:46
Speaker 4: two people left that are not getting paid to do
37:48
Speaker 4: advertising for them. So this is completely our own free
37:51
Speaker 4: will that we're explaining.
37:54
Speaker 3: They did pay me, in full disclosure, they did pay
37:56
Speaker 3: me in November and December to do posts on social media.
38:00
Speaker 4: Oh, okay. So I'm the last one. I'm doing this
38:03
Speaker 4: for free. You need to reach out to me. All right.
38:06
Speaker 4: So anyway, don't gamble. But the way it works is
38:10
Speaker 4: you can bet on– I think you can probably bet
38:13
Speaker 4: on the weather nowadays, given how gambling is everywhere, which
38:16
Speaker 4: I think is actually a very bad thing. But one
38:19
Speaker 4: of the benefits is that betting odds tend to be
38:24
Speaker 4: very predictive in that if you look on Election Day
38:28
Speaker 4: and there are– candidates that have an eighty percent chance
38:33
Speaker 4: of winning. Generally speaking, once the polls come back, probably
38:37
Speaker 4: eight of them will win. The explanation people would give
38:44
Speaker 4: a few years ago was, well, when people put their
38:46
Speaker 4: money where their mouths are, people who are more knowledgeable
38:51
Speaker 4: are going to be placing bets, so you have a
38:53
Speaker 4: very informed market and it makes it predictive. I think
38:56
Speaker 4: the real reason is because insider trading is legal in
38:59
Speaker 4: these types of markets. So, you know, the odds are
39:02
Speaker 4: always going to be influenced by whales who have inside information. Now,
39:07
Speaker 4: the way the odds are calculated, it's basically just how
39:10
Speaker 4: much money is in favor of something versus against. So
39:13
Speaker 4: if there was $ 100 bet on a race and $ 90
39:16
Speaker 4: is bet on you, $ 10 is bet on me, the
39:20
Speaker 4: implied odds are that you have a 90% chance of
39:23
Speaker 4: winning and I have a 10% chance of winning. You
39:26
Speaker 4: get paid out depending on how much money is bet
39:28
Speaker 4: on each side. So if if you were taking the
39:32
Speaker 4: bet that I would win and I've got a 10% chance, well,
39:35
Speaker 4: because there's nine times more money against it, you would
39:37
Speaker 4: win nine to one. So that's basically the overview. But
39:41
Speaker 4: there are just very useful markets to look at for
39:45
Speaker 4: making predictions about the future.
39:47
Speaker 6: Yeah.
39:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't gamble on these myself. Actually, I
39:51
Speaker 4: just have one potential bet that I might end up placing.
39:57
Speaker 4: We talked about it for, what was it, the Democrat?
40:01
Speaker 3: Presidential candidate.
40:03
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we were going to bet. I was going
40:04
Speaker 4: to make a long-shot bet on Andy Beshear. But I
40:08
Speaker 4: myself generally refrain from placing any bets because... in markets
40:12
Speaker 4: where insider trading is legal, you're pretty much guaranteed to
40:15
Speaker 4: lose to those people. But they're very useful in making predictions.
40:19
Speaker 4: And because there are people that know things... Let's just
40:24
Speaker 4: step back a second. If you could bet that There
40:28
Speaker 4: was going to be a strike on Iran the day
40:30
Speaker 4: it happened, and the odds went from 1% to 70%
40:34
Speaker 4: in an hour. It's probably because someone on the inside
40:37
Speaker 4: knows it's going to happen and placed the bet. And
40:41
Speaker 4: with races, maybe a campaign manager knows an October surprise
40:46
Speaker 4: is going to come out. Maybe he has access to
40:48
Speaker 4: internal polling that other people haven't seen. So it's just
40:51
Speaker 4: a much more efficient way of looking and making predictions
40:54
Speaker 4: than traditional polls. But that being said, they're also wrong
40:59
Speaker 4: all the time. It's just that they're more accurate than
41:01
Speaker 4: the polls.
41:02
Speaker 3: Well, we're up against a break. We're going to get
41:04
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41:06
Speaker 3: talk about Joe Kent, Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard, and we'll
41:11
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42:10
Speaker 3: And welcome back to The Truth Be Told on a
42:12
Speaker 3: Monday night. I'm Booker Scott alongside Matt Palumbo tonight. Let's
42:16
Speaker 3: get into the Joe Kent episode. Tucker Carlson thing. Joe
42:19
Speaker 3: Kent was a big story last week, Matt. He, out
42:21
Speaker 3: of nowhere, resigns. But there's more to the story, I believe,
42:25
Speaker 3: and let's talk about it. Let's talk about him first
42:28
Speaker 3: being taken out of the Pentagon in classified information. That
42:32
Speaker 3: happened weeks ago. He was under investigation. He still is.
42:37
Speaker 3: And now he comes out and says he's against the
42:39
Speaker 3: Iranian war, and he sounds like he is Tucker Carlson.
42:42
Speaker 3: He sounds identical to him. What's going on here?
42:45
Speaker 4: Well, this happened, and I think we talked about this
42:48
Speaker 4: last week with Tucker. He was claiming that his texts
42:50
Speaker 4: were being read by the CIA and maybe there's going
42:52
Speaker 4: to be FARA charges. With Joe Kent, it was odd
42:57
Speaker 4: to see him quit over the Iran strikes because even
43:00
Speaker 4: on his Twitter account, you can just search his name
43:02
Speaker 4: in Iran and find previous posts where he's talking about
43:05
Speaker 4: Iran as an imminent threat. So it's just bizarre to see.
43:10
Speaker 4: So he resigns. Then we find out he's been accused
43:13
Speaker 4: of leaking classified information. But the accusations and the investigation
43:17
Speaker 4: into it goes back well before he resigned. So it
43:21
Speaker 4: seems like he resigned in response to that. So, you know,
43:24
Speaker 4: maybe he was leaking to Tucker. That could be possible.
43:27
Speaker 4: One of the first things he did was go on
43:29
Speaker 4: Tucker's podcast and.
43:32
Speaker 2: He is.
43:33
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's just odd to see him, Candace,
43:38
Speaker 4: this one woman who was a beauty pageant, who was
43:40
Speaker 4: on the Religious Liberty Commission, who resigned. A lot of
43:43
Speaker 4: these people, they're just... They all sound identical in the
43:48
Speaker 4: talking points they're making against Trump where, I don't know,
43:51
Speaker 4: they're trying to push this whole MAGA is dead narrative.
43:57
Speaker 4: With Joe Kent, the weirdest part of his resignation letter
44:01
Speaker 4: was he was claiming Israeli influence on the Iran strike.
44:06
Speaker 4: And my position is more like, In this specific case,
44:09
Speaker 4: we had an aligned interest with Israel. It wasn't like
44:12
Speaker 4: Israel egging us on. But when Joe Kent was talking
44:15
Speaker 4: about his wife, who's a service member being murdered by ISIS,
44:19
Speaker 4: he said she was murdered in a war for Israel.
44:25
Speaker 4: If I recall, I believe Israel cautioned us against going
44:28
Speaker 4: to war with Iraq. It was just a bizarre thing
44:31
Speaker 4: to then try to make ISIS about Israel. So I
44:35
Speaker 4: don't know if these people are all being paid off,
44:38
Speaker 4: if he realized the walls were coming in, so I'm
44:41
Speaker 4: going to do the countersignaling podcast circuit or what. But
44:45
Speaker 4: a lot of these sort of right-wing influencer types are
44:49
Speaker 4: very noticeably gravitating towards this same sort of weird, almost third-worldest, ideology.
44:56
Speaker 4: And I say that as someone who is... I think
44:59
Speaker 4: it's fair to criticize Israel. I don't think it's inherently anti-Semitic,
45:04
Speaker 4: but these people who make every ill in the world
45:07
Speaker 4: about Israel and Jewish people are a plague on our cause, 100%.
45:11
Speaker 3: I agree 100% with you on that. And let's go
45:14
Speaker 3: back to Tucker Carlson real quick, because Maybe the CIA
45:18
Speaker 3: was listening to him and reading his messages. Because if
45:22
Speaker 3: you remember, I saw this on social media. I have not.
45:26
Speaker 3: There's no way to corroborate this yet. But Tucker Carlson
45:29
Speaker 3: was at the White House. There was a picture of
45:32
Speaker 3: Tucker and Donald Trump in the Oval Office. And that
45:35
Speaker 3: was just weeks before the bombing started. And then he
45:39
Speaker 3: leaves there. And what does he do? I don't know.
45:42
Speaker 3: Maybe he calls people over in the Middle East. And
45:46
Speaker 3: maybe that's what the CIA was listening for. So there
45:49
Speaker 3: may be more to the story. There may be more
45:51
Speaker 3: to Tucker Carlson than just registering as a foreign agent.
45:55
Speaker 3: There might be a little bit more there. We'll have
45:57
Speaker 3: to wait and see. Let's listen to Bill Maher. He's
45:59
Speaker 3: talking about this Joe Kent situation.
46:02
Speaker 11: You have now this guy, Joe Kent. He quit this week.
46:05
Speaker 11: It was a big story. I think he was the
46:07
Speaker 11: counterintelligence guy. And he said, I can't go along with
46:10
Speaker 11: this because, you know what, he's been listening to too
46:13
Speaker 11: much Tucker Carlson stuff. It's, you know, the Jews made
46:16
Speaker 11: us do it. It's just another version of anti-Semitism that
46:20
Speaker 11: comes out. First it was BDS, then it was their
46:23
Speaker 11: colonizers and genocide, which it wasn't, and all these other reasons. Like,
46:27
Speaker 11: you can't have a state in the world that's based
46:30
Speaker 11: on religion, even though there's like 46 Muslim countries that
46:33
Speaker 11: are based on religion. Some have the name right in
46:35
Speaker 11: the title of the country. But whatever it is, you
46:38
Speaker 11: have all these. And now the big answer is, no,
46:41
Speaker 11: Israel made us do it. We're Israel's bitch. I don't
46:45
Speaker 11: think we're Israel's bitch. I think we're Israel's ally. But,
46:49
Speaker 11: you know, if I have to be on one side
46:51
Speaker 11: of this MAGA thing, either Trump or Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens,
46:56
Speaker 11: and Nick Fuentes, I'll be with Trump on this one.
46:59
Speaker 3: Good points there, Matt. I think Bill Maher made some
47:03
Speaker 3: good ones there, especially about the anti-Semitism. Because I am
47:08
Speaker 3: seeing Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, the names that he just
47:11
Speaker 3: mentioned there, they're anti-Semitic. Everything is hating the Jews just
47:16
Speaker 3: for being Jewish.
47:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, listen, if they were to say, hey, listen,
47:21
Speaker 4: you know, we're giving Israel $ 3 billion a year, you know,
47:24
Speaker 4: is the intel really worth it? Do we really want
47:26
Speaker 4: foreign countries egging us on into these conflicts and influencing us?
47:31
Speaker 4: That's a fine debate to have. It's just you can
47:33
Speaker 4: then see every other thing they have to say, and
47:37
Speaker 4: somehow the Jews are behind it in some way, no
47:39
Speaker 4: matter how absurd. Like, they're... They'll talk about things like
47:44
Speaker 4: the USS Liberty incident, which was a mistaken attack by
47:47
Speaker 4: Israel on a U S ship that Israel immediately acknowledged
47:51
Speaker 4: and apologized for and paid reparations for, but we'll like
47:55
Speaker 4: try to present it as some sort of like hidden history. Um,
47:59
Speaker 4: or we'll, I mean, well, I don't even have to
48:01
Speaker 4: really describe it. You can just go on their fees
48:02
Speaker 4: and see it themselves. But if they, they used it
48:06
Speaker 4: as sort of like a getting the foot into the
48:07
Speaker 4: door for a thousand other conspiracy theories. And, um, Listen,
48:11
Speaker 4: I'm sure if we went through history, we could find
48:14
Speaker 4: a bunch of things Israel's done that we're totally not
48:17
Speaker 4: okay with. I just don't then conclude that they're pulling
48:21
Speaker 4: the strings in every possible thing that happens. The whole
48:25
Speaker 4: Jewish face lasers thing, I'm coming to think they actually
48:29
Speaker 4: believe some of this stuff.
48:30
Speaker 3: I think they do believe it. I think that's how
48:33
Speaker 3: far they are gone. Let's stay here on Joe Kent.
48:36
Speaker 3: Tulsi Gabbard, she was in a hearing this week, or
48:39
Speaker 3: last week, I should say, in Capitol Hill. This was
48:42
Speaker 3: in the House of Representatives. Elise Stefanik was asking the questions.
48:47
Speaker 17: I also wanted to ask this because this week there
48:49
Speaker 17: was a high-profile resignation of Director of National Counterterrorism Center. Now,
48:54
Speaker 17: I want to be clear from the outset. I've communicated
48:57
Speaker 17: directly with President Trump my support for Operation Epic Fury,
49:00
Speaker 17: and I was very not only disappointed, but how inappropriate
49:05
Speaker 17: this letter was. And I want to read a statement
49:09
Speaker 17: and get your personal assessment whether you agree or disagree
49:12
Speaker 17: with that.
49:13
Speaker 3: And that's this.
49:14
Speaker 17: Early in this administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members
49:18
Speaker 17: of the American media deployed a miscommunication campaign that wholly
49:21
Speaker 17: undermined your America First platform and pro-war sentiments to encourage
49:26
Speaker 17: a war with Iran. This echo chamber was used to
49:28
Speaker 17: deceive you into believing that Iran posed no imminent threat
49:31
Speaker 17: to the United States and that you should strike now.
49:33
Speaker 17: There was a clear path to a swift victory.
49:36
Speaker 3: This was a lie.
49:37
Speaker 17: And it's the same tactic the Israelis used to draw
49:39
Speaker 17: us into a disastrous Iraq war. Now, I cannot say
49:43
Speaker 17: how much I disagree with that statement. Do you agree
49:47
Speaker 17: or disagree with what this letter was put out by
49:49
Speaker 17: former Director Kent?
49:52
Speaker 12: He said a lot of things in that letter. Ultimately,
49:55
Speaker 12: we have provided the president with the intelligence assessments, and
50:00
Speaker 12: the president is— elected by the American people and makes
50:04
Speaker 12: his own decisions based on the information that's available to him.
50:07
Speaker 17: But do you agree with, does that statement he made,
50:10
Speaker 17: blaming Israel.
50:11
Speaker 4: Concern you? Yes.
50:12
Speaker 3: It should concern her, I think, Matt. And I have
50:16
Speaker 3: seen that Tulsi Gabbard may be resigning. I don't believe that.
50:19
Speaker 3: I think that's just a rumor on social media, I believe.
50:24
Speaker 3: What do you make of Stefanik's question there of Tulsi Gabbard?
50:27
Speaker 4: Well, obviously, Tulsi is in an awkward position in that,
50:31
Speaker 4: you know, she was campaigning on no war with Iran
50:35
Speaker 4: and now is in a position where I guess she's
50:37
Speaker 4: either disagreeing with her own or I guess is disagreeing
50:40
Speaker 4: with the intel community on their own assessment that she's
50:43
Speaker 4: in charge of.
50:44
Speaker 7: So.
50:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely an awkward position she is in. I
50:47
Speaker 4: don't know how I would necessarily play that if I
50:49
Speaker 4: was her. But I thought her response to that question
50:51
Speaker 4: was fine. I mean, the whole Israel angle was absurd.
50:53
Speaker 4: And as you were playing it, I was just Googling
50:56
Speaker 4: to double check what I said earlier. And this is
50:59
Speaker 4: the headline. Israel warned U.S. against Iraq invasion. U.S. official
51:02
Speaker 4: says this was back in 2007. So the tying the
51:06
Speaker 4: Iraq word Israel makes no sense.
51:08
Speaker 7: Yeah.
51:08
Speaker 3: Well, let's move on from Joe Kent, who was the
51:12
Speaker 3: counterintelligence person there underneath DNI director Tulsi Gabbard. Let's move
51:18
Speaker 3: on to someone else that Trump has appointed. By the way,
51:21
Speaker 3: I think Joe Kent was way over his head in that.
51:23
Speaker 3: I'm glad he's gone. Now we have Mark Wayne Mullen
51:26
Speaker 3: as a possible DHS director, and he's going to be
51:30
Speaker 3: replacing Kristi Noem if he gets confirmed. Maybe a problem here.
51:35
Speaker 3: Here's Rand Paul and Mark Wayne Mullen from a hearing
51:39
Speaker 3: this week for the confirmation.
51:41
Speaker 13: I think there are anger issues. I think there's a
51:43
Speaker 13: lack of contrition, both about the violence that was perpetrated
51:47
Speaker 13: on me. Really, the violent episode he was involved in,
51:50
Speaker 13: he set a committee where he's told the media, frankly,
51:53
Speaker 13: that he doesn't regret it. He's also told the media there,
51:56
Speaker 13: as he said it again today, that there's historical precedent
51:59
Speaker 13: for violence. that caning and dueling happened all the time.
52:02
Speaker 13: And I pointed out, well, if it was illegal 170,
52:04
Speaker 13: 200 years ago, they would actually flee and they would
52:08
Speaker 13: do it in areas they could find where the law
52:10
Speaker 13: didn't reach. Sometimes they would actually go to Canada. Sometimes
52:13
Speaker 13: they'd go from one state to the other. But the
52:15
Speaker 13: mass of civilized response, even in the 1850s or 1830s,
52:21
Speaker 13: was against dueling. That's why dueling was made illegal. The
52:24
Speaker 13: fact that he can't bring himself to say that You know, really,
52:27
Speaker 13: we shouldn't settle political questions with violence. I think that
52:31
Speaker 13: would be a terrible example for ICE and for.
52:33
Speaker 3: Our Border Patrol agents. And that's Rand Paul coming out
52:37
Speaker 3: of that hearing where he is not going to support
52:39
Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Mullen in that confirmation process. Who knows whether
52:44
Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Mullen will be confirmed for that DHS position.
52:48
Speaker 3: But let's go back in history and understand why Rand
52:52
Speaker 3: Paul feels the way he does about Mark Wayne Mullen.
52:54
Speaker 3: The reason why is because when he was attacked, Rand
52:57
Speaker 3: Paul was attacked by his neighbor in Kentucky. Mark Wayne
53:01
Speaker 3: Mullen said he understood why the guy did it, because
53:04
Speaker 3: he doesn't like Rand Paul. That was when Mark Wayne
53:06
Speaker 3: Mullen was actually in the House of Representatives. He is
53:09
Speaker 3: now a senator from Oklahoma. Here is the exchange in
53:12
Speaker 3: that hearing between the two.
53:15
Speaker 18: When the phone call was made, I made it to you,
53:17
Speaker 18: and I tried to talk to you. you didn't engage
53:20
Speaker 18: at all. In fact, you said, get your paperwork in.
53:22
Speaker 18: It's got to be three days in between.
53:24
Speaker 3: You offered no apology.
53:26
Speaker 4: Sir?
53:26
Speaker 13: And you offer no apology today and no regrets.
53:31
Speaker 4: Haven't heard the word apologize.
53:33
Speaker 3: Haven't heard the word regret.
53:34
Speaker 13: Haven't heard I misspoke and it was heated and I
53:37
Speaker 13: made a mistake.
53:38
Speaker 3: I haven't heard any of those words.
53:40
Speaker 18: Sir, actually, it wasn't heated. And I'm not apologizing for
53:43
Speaker 18: pointing out your character.
53:44
Speaker 2: Good, good.
53:44
Speaker 13: So you're jolly well fine, and you want the American
53:47
Speaker 13: public and the people up here that may or may
53:50
Speaker 13: not vote for you to know that you supported the felonious,
53:53
Speaker 13: violent attack on me from behind.
53:55
Speaker 18: I did not say I supported it. I said I
53:58
Speaker 18: understood it. There's a difference.
54:00
Speaker 13: And so that means you really didn't approve of it,
54:03
Speaker 13: just completely understand it.
54:05
Speaker 3: And let me just say right now, Mark Wayne Mullen
54:08
Speaker 3: is full of crap. I don't like the guy. Yeah,
54:12
Speaker 3: it is a politician's answer. Mark Wayne Mullen is full
54:15
Speaker 3: of crap. He knew exactly what he said, why he
54:18
Speaker 3: said it. This is not going to be a good
54:20
Speaker 3: hire by Donald Trump. It's going to be another one.
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Speaker 3: His Liberty score, by the way, is 32. Every year,
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma has two bad senators. Mark Wayne Mullen is another one.
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Speaker 3: At least he'll be out of the Senate. Hopefully, hopefully
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Speaker 3: he'll do okay at DHS. I just don't see it.
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Speaker 3: I think it's way over his head. And We're to
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Speaker 3: the end of our hour, Matt. We covered a lot
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Speaker 3: of ground this hour. I suspect we'll have more to
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Speaker 3: cover next week because there is a lot happening always.
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Speaker 3: What do you look for this week?
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Speaker 4: Uh the price of gas i uh yeah well i
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Speaker 4: was gonna i was gonna end up with with uh
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Speaker 4: mark wayne mullen by saying like dj secretary is one
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Speaker 4: of those things where i actually wouldn't mind having kind
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Speaker 4: of like a brawler type guy up there to be
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Speaker 4: given given the type of job and the work you're
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Speaker 4: doing so um and it seems like fetterman will be
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Speaker 4: a yes vote in fact the only reason he got
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Speaker 4: advanced out of committee was because of fetterman without that
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Speaker 4: he would have failed so uh.
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Speaker 3: And let me say this, Markway Mullen, let me say this, Matt,
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Speaker 3: because I came on hard on Markway Mullen. He's a
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Speaker 3: good family man, and that should be said about him.
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Speaker 3: He has that going for him, unlike Christy Noem, who
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Speaker 3: has Corey Lewandowski.
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Speaker 4: And, too, Rand Paul mentioned this, but he almost got
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Speaker 4: in a fight with the president of the Teamsters a
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Speaker 4: few years ago. They're friends now. They've got on each
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Speaker 4: other's podcast. So he is capable of turning enemies into friends.
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Speaker 4: So the Rand Paul feud must be a bit deeper
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Speaker 4: than we know. But to answer your actual question, I
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Speaker 4: guess I ran, I ran, I ran. Government shut down.
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Speaker 4: I guess sort of the same as last week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. That's what we're going to be looking
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Speaker 3: for this week. I'm Booker Scott. That was Matt Palumbo.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. And don't forget,
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Speaker 3: you were told 2,000 years ago that you are the
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Speaker 3: salt of the earth. And salt without flavor, it has
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Speaker 3: no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have
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Speaker 3: a great night.
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