Latest / Colorado Soul Stories / Ana Maria Vasquez: Animal and Nature Intuitive
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- 0:00Welcome to Colorado Soul Stories, showcasing changemakers and creatives,
- 0:05past and present, who have helped to make Colorado not just a pretty place to
- 0:09behold, but a soulful place to be.
- 0:12I'm your host, Mama Jill, longtime Colorado resident, former teacher,
- 0:16and freelance journalist.
- 0:18Let's get started with our next episode. Your home, my home. Your home, your home.
- 0:20Music.
- 0:24It ain't gonna take away our home.
- 0:28I've been here for 20 years now and I plan to stay for more.
- 0:32These folks are my family. These folks are my home.
- 0:36We'll rebuild these streets and houses, help those that need the most,
- 0:41support our brothers and sisters, and tomorrow we will...
- 0:44Okay, welcome back to Colorado Soul Stories. We're on the road in Nathrop,
- 0:50Colorado. We're actually re-recording a little bit with Ana Maria here.
- 0:55We recorded in a studio and lost the first half.
- 1:00So I'm at her beautiful house here near the woods in Nathrop,
- 1:05surrounded by her kitty cat, you might hear.
- 1:07And there's horses outside. So...
- 1:10You know, it's a house. It's real. Ana Maria Vasquez is a animal and nature
- 1:19multi-sensory intuitive.
- 1:21And her journey towards that started after some hard things happened to her.
- 1:26And she transformed that into a new life. Welcome, Ana Maria.
- 1:31And let's talk about your journey.
- 1:33How fun is this to have these Colorado conversations? I'm so grateful you're doing this. Me too.
- 1:39So there are animals here. There's a reason for that.
- 1:42Ana Maria loves animals and they love her. The animals are used to talking to humans in my house.
- 1:50I love it. I love it. So sweet. It's the sweetest cat ever. What is his name?
- 1:55That's Sammy. He's 16 years old. Yeah. Gosh, you can't tell.
- 1:58He's very youthful. Okay.
- 2:00Let's start with you coming to Colorado. I came to Colorado after I got my master's
- 2:07degree in communications and adult education.
- 2:11And I was headhunted to come work at Fort Lewis College. I guess it's a university now, actually.
- 2:18But I got to work there for eight, ten years.
- 2:22And then I got headhunted again by an independent bank in Durango.
- 2:28And then I kind of went back and forth between the two.
- 2:31And then the big, you know, the recession in 2008 hit the country.
- 2:36It finally hit Durango in 2010.
- 2:39And that's when my big life tsunami happened. I lost my job.
- 2:43I lost my home and my land.
- 2:45I could get another job somewhere. But I felt like, you know,
- 2:49I did everything I was supposed to do and the way I was supposed to do it.
- 2:53And here I was still miserable. So I was stunned when I lost the job.
- 2:58And there I am, you know, sitting in the ashes that used to be my life.
- 3:02And I'm like, if I have to do this again, I want to do it different.
- 3:06I want a deeper connection.
- 3:08I grew up like a huge connection with animals.
- 3:11Like we were saying, of course, there's a lot of animals around here.
- 3:13I was a kid who if there's a cat under the table in the kitchen,
- 3:17that's where I'm going to be.
- 3:18Right. Or the dog in the backyard or whatever. I would have never said that
- 3:22I was an animal communicator because we didn't even have that word when I was growing up.
- 3:27It wasn't like one of your choices on career day. That's for sure. Right.
- 3:31Should be. Yeah, I know. But I knew I was so close to them.
- 3:35So I knew that's what I wanted to do. And I had heard from other spiritual teachers
- 3:40that we're all wired for that.
- 3:41We can do that. We're just too distracted, right, by the modern world.
- 3:45So I thought, well, then that's what I want to do.
- 3:48So I had a spiritual teacher and I said, this is what I want to do.
- 3:51And she gave me an assignment and she said, for 30 days, I want you to go out
- 3:56to a tree, put your hands on it and just be with this tree for 30 days,
- 4:00for 30 minutes. And actually, at this point, I had moved to Wisconsin because
- 4:04I had lost everything, right?
- 4:06I had to move in with my dad, you know, at this point where you are not expecting
- 4:10that to happen in your life, right?
- 4:12So that's why I feel like I am the poster child for all of this work because
- 4:16I didn't want to do those things, but it's how it unfolded.
- 4:20I thought she was full of crap, to be quite honest.
- 4:23I was like, she doesn't know what to do with me. She needs 30 days to come up
- 4:27with something. But I am an overachiever and I'm a really good student.
- 4:31So I was like, I'm going to do this to the letter if for no other reason than
- 4:36to come back at the end and say, I did it. It didn't work. What else have you got? Right. You know?
- 4:41And so for three weeks, I went out every day to the same tree,
- 4:4430 minutes, felt very silly, very like self-conscious.
- 4:49Like, what am I doing? And I didn't even know if I was like touching the tree and inappropriate.
- 4:53Right. I just didn't know what I was doing. So I really just spent a lot of
- 4:56time talking about that to the tree.
- 4:58And three weeks went by and nothing happened, right? There wasn't any hallucinating.
- 5:05Anything. And somewhere in that third week or so, at the end of that third week,
- 5:10I was in my house, in the living room, and I asked a rhetorical question,
- 5:15you know, kind of talking to myself out loud.
- 5:18And I don't even remember what the question was because what happened next was
- 5:22so amazing and changed the absolute course of my life.
- 5:25So I asked this question out loud And I hear in an audible voice outside of my head the answer.
- 5:33And I was like, where did that come from? And it felt like it came from the tree from outside.
- 5:40And so I stood up and went to the window and I was like, was that you?
- 5:43And I heard again in a voice outside of my head, yes.
- 5:47And the first thing that I said was I asked to talk to animals.
- 5:52I don't know what to do with a talking tree. and now I'm embarrassed I thought
- 5:57that was my answer but that was my humanness I didn't understand anything about
- 6:00the energy I didn't understand any of this stuff and.
- 6:04It chuckled. The tree chuckled. And it said, the animals are coming.
- 6:08This is a recalibration process.
- 6:11And then I honestly thought I had had a mental break, right?
- 6:15Because a tree is talking and I'm hearing it. We're not taught about that kind of stuff.
- 6:20And fortunately, right from my time in higher education and things,
- 6:24I had a lot of really good connections to very good mental health professionals.
- 6:28And so I was like, OK, I can check that out after I listen to what this tree has to tell me.
- 6:36I take mental health very seriously. And I was also very curious.
- 6:39That started this ongoing situation where I would ask the tree questions that
- 6:45I didn't know the answer to, but I could find the answer to.
- 6:49Things like, what kind of tree are you, right? I didn't know.
- 6:52I had asked him, well, what should I call you? And it said, you can call me Ruby.
- 6:55And I thought, oh, that's sweet, Ruby. And then I said, okay,
- 6:58well, what kind of tree are you? And it said, well, I'm a red pine.
- 7:00And I was like, well, that's a little too on the nose. Don't you think, Ruby the red pine?
- 7:06And so I got a friend who was a botanist and knew trees just,
- 7:10you know, so that there wouldn't be any questions.
- 7:12And he's like, he thought I was silly because he's like, this is a red pine.
- 7:16We have lots of them around here. I can't believe you don't know this, right?
- 7:19So I was grateful for that and even more intrigued at this point.
- 7:25And so I didn't notice right away, but I eventually noticed that she was missing her canopy.
- 7:31And she was in between a bunch of other trees, so I couldn't tell right away.
- 7:34But one day when I was out there, I noticed she didn't have her canopy.
- 7:37And so I asked her, and she said very short words, big wind or big storm,
- 7:42strong wind broke. And I was like, oh.
- 7:45But it also looked like, oddly, right from my landlord's apartment that you
- 7:51could, from his kitchen, it looked like it would be the perfect view.
- 7:54Like maybe someone did it intentionally.
- 7:56So I was in his kitchen one day and I asked him, what happened to that one tree?
- 8:00And he said almost word for word what Ruby had said to me.
- 8:03Oh, my God, it was a big storm. And this huge wind came through and then it was just broke.
- 8:10And so it was those pieces, right? And sure enough, the animals did come.
- 8:15And it was, I want to say, within six weeks after that first experience,
- 8:19the animals started showing up.
- 8:20I had taken my dogs out to go to the bathroom one night.
- 8:24And they were black dogs and they went one way. And I turned around and I almost
- 8:27tripped over another black dog.
- 8:30And I was like, what is going on? But there was nothing there. right?
- 8:33It was like, the way I describe it is like Star Wars, where Princess Leia is
- 8:38playing that video, and you see it like an overlay.
- 8:42So I'll like see things as an overlay. In this case, it was a little,
- 8:46a smaller, medium-sized black dog with white on the tips of its ears and on its chest.
- 8:52And I was like, what was that? And I heard, again, another voice say,
- 8:56you'll know when you need to know.
- 8:58At this point, I was doing some life coaching with folks, you know,
- 9:01trying to decide what am I, how am I going to do this?
- 9:04And then I was in a life coaching session and I heard in my head, ask her about the dog.
- 9:10And I thought, I'm not going to ask her about the dog, right? She'll know I'm crazy.
- 9:15I'm still trying to prove I'm not crazy. And I kept getting the nudge.
- 9:19So I finally said, tell me about the medium sized black dog with the white tips
- 9:24on the ears and the white on the chest. And it gets really quiet.
- 9:27And so I'm like, all right, like she knows I'm crazy.
- 9:29It's up. Everybody knows now. And she starts crying.
- 9:33And this is actually, I'm very used to this reaction now, 15 years later,
- 9:37right? And she said, that's not possible.
- 9:40She said, that dog died 14 years ago. And I said, well, I don't know what to
- 9:44tell you, but he was in my backyard last night and let's see what he has to say.
- 9:48And we were able to share a message and it meant a lot to her.
- 9:52And then, you know, it was like a faucet was turned on and the animals started
- 9:57coming through and it's multi-sensory is like how I explained it, right?
- 10:01So I will sometimes hear things either in my mind's head or outside,
- 10:07or I'll see something in my mind's eye or again on an overlay in the physical.
- 10:14Sometimes I'll feel something or just have a knowingness. A lot of times personalities
- 10:19will come through of the animals so I can confirm, Right.
- 10:22There'll be these times where even though I'm just in the room by myself,
- 10:26it'll feel like they've got their paw on my leg or they're pushing on my arm. Right.
- 10:31Every once in a while, something will show up ahead of time.
- 10:34I've had it here in the house where I get up in the morning because I work from
- 10:37home and I'd walk in and I would see in a recliner.
- 10:41Somebody sitting there, but I could tell it's not a real person.
- 10:44And then I look and they're like, I'm here for someone later is what I'll hear in my head, right?
- 10:50It's all like you can understand why you would think you're crazy.
- 10:53So you really have to know that you're mentally sound because you know, that's true.
- 10:57And then the confirmation. I'm not trying to convince anyone.
- 11:01It's the confirmation that comes through the information that I couldn't possibly know.
- 11:04Like with that gentleman, when I finally got into the session,
- 11:08I said, just so you know, your dad has been here all morning.
- 11:12And I said, there's a big man.
- 11:15He's a large man in overalls and a red flannel shirt.
- 11:19And he didn't want to be late. So he just sat in my living room and she said,
- 11:22oh my God, that's my dad. He's exactly like that. He would never want to be late.
- 11:27And he wouldn't want to impose and he would just try and want to stay out of the way.
- 11:31So it's really fascinating when those things happen.
- 11:35And again, it happens because everything is energy. So it doesn't matter if
- 11:38it's your dog or your dad.
- 11:40And it doesn't matter if they're embodied or they've crossed over because energy, everything is energy.
- 11:47And when we have these connections with loved ones, it never ends.
- 11:51And we always have access to that.
- 11:55That's powerful. That is really powerful. Yeah. And I'm, you know,
- 11:59lived in smaller places.
- 12:00I had to not just rely on my local economy.
- 12:04So I work globally. I have clients around the world and it's wonderful.
- 12:09It's so rewarding because the animals, they reflect messages back to us through their behavior,
- 12:16through their physical issues that are going on because we're so connected to
- 12:20them and we've got these soul contracts and they always, they're so excited
- 12:24to be able to get the messages to their people.
- 12:27And the people are like, I had no idea. Right. How would you know? Yeah.
- 12:31Wow. So how do people find you?
- 12:34I'm fortunate that I get asked to speak on a lot of summits,
- 12:38a lot of online conferences.
- 12:40I have my own classes. I teach classes. I have private sessions.
- 12:45I have certification programs.
- 12:47My website is intentiontraining.com. Right. And I'll put that on the website
- 12:52for this episode so people can find you.
- 12:54And there's also a book called Nature. Is that what it's called? The whole title?
- 12:59Divine experiences with trees, plants, stones, and landscapes.
- 13:02That makes sense. It is long.
- 13:04So I feel like once you got going on this awareness, and this all started about
- 13:1015 years ago, did you say?
- 13:12Yeah. In 2026, I'll be celebrating 15 years in business professionally,
- 13:17right? I was doing it for a little bit before that, as I was honing my skills,
- 13:21making sure I was mentally sound, things like that.
- 13:25But it really took off quick and big. Wow.
- 13:28That is so cool. Since I scheduled this interview, I mentioned what you do.
- 13:32And so many people have just been, oh, yeah, I know an animal intuitive or I
- 13:36use animal. And I'm like, OK, cool.
- 13:38And we talked earlier about how Colorado is a place that might be a little bit
- 13:43more open minded about things like that.
- 13:46How has the landscape here contributed, would you say? Well,
- 13:50I feel like folks who are drawn to Colorado, whether they were born here and
- 13:55stay or whether they, you know, migrate here, they have this connection to the outdoors.
- 13:59They want to be outdoors and or the wildlife.
- 14:03Right. Or, you know, we have the joke in Salida that you show up and you get a bike and a dog.
- 14:07Right. Like they hand it out at the at the edge of the city.
- 14:10So it's that piece. People are already connected to nature.
- 14:14I get this a lot where people come up and they're like, you're never going to
- 14:17believe this. I'm like, OK, well, maybe you'll believe it.
- 14:19But they had this amazing experience with a bush when they were out jogging
- 14:22or they were mountain biking and they heard a tree talk and they're like, is that possible?
- 14:27I'm like, oh, it's possible.
- 14:30And so, yeah, people seem to just be more open because of that connection.
- 14:36They know already that being connected with the natural world makes them feel
- 14:40better. And it's important, right?
- 14:41There are biological things that happen. There's that whole movement grounding,
- 14:46right, or earthing, where you put your bare feet or your bare hands either on
- 14:51the ground or on a tree, and you're receiving negative ions, right?
- 14:57They know that negative ions are released, and the way that atoms in our body
- 15:02work, they have to have balance.
- 15:04And when we're in synthetic environments, we get unbalanced.
- 15:07And all of these electronic, you know, I'm pointing to the TV,
- 15:11I'm pointing to the console, I'm pointing to all of the electronics, right?
- 15:15They are pulling from the cells in our body because they want those negative
- 15:20electrons to balance themselves. It's not anything bad or nefarious.
- 15:24It's just how things work.
- 15:26And so our body is the biggest organic thing that any of these things can pull from.
- 15:31So it's important that we are continually replenishing that.
- 15:34And you do that by going outside at least five minutes, right?
- 15:37They're saying 20 minutes, but the more that you can do it, and most people
- 15:40probably recognize this, we feel brilliant when we're out in the woods.
- 15:44And I guarantee you, it has more to do with us remembering, right?
- 15:47Coming back to our center, remembering who we truly be, remembering that we're
- 15:51connected to everything.
- 15:53And so there are actually like physical things that are happening to us that
- 15:58don't happen to us if we don't spend time outside.
- 16:01And so moving from nature being this beautiful backdrop to an actual ally,
- 16:07right, that you're connecting with, it makes a difference.
- 16:11I wonder, we all work in front of computers and some people longer than others.
- 16:15Those people need even more. The term is called EMFs, right?
- 16:19Electromagnetic frequencies. And so they're coming out at you all of the time.
- 16:23Again, you know, I've been fortunate to have all these different coaches and
- 16:27mentors that aren't fear-based. They always come from love.
- 16:31And so they're always like, you can do whatever you want, but have an exit strategy, right?
- 16:35So if you're going to sit in front of your computer all day,
- 16:38what are you going to do at the beginning of the day, right? Can you get outside?
- 16:42Can you take a five-minute break and just stand outside?
- 16:46You know, what are the things that you're going to do? That's a good thing to
- 16:49really consciously think about that.
- 16:51And of course, I think of my husband who's a very hard worker,
- 16:54but sometimes he's, you know, it's like almost 12 hours sometimes.
- 16:58Yes. And I beg him to get outside. If he could incorporate that into a routine.
- 17:03He loves outside. Don't get me wrong. He's just a hard worker.
- 17:06I'll go home and suggest that.
- 17:08Even just standing still, five minutes, bare feet on the ground.
- 17:13Or if people can't do that, right, because it does get cold here in the winter,
- 17:16then bare hands on a tree, like the trunk of a tree.
- 17:20Yep. Because you have to have touch. There's all these on the bottom of your
- 17:24feet. There are between 50 to 80,000 receptors.
- 17:27And that's why we put things like oils and things on our feet because it's taken up, right?
- 17:33Reflexology happens on the soles of our feet. This is a big deal.
- 17:37And our hands too. We don't have as many in our hands, but it's a good substitute if you can't do it.
- 17:43Another thing is to sit on a rock because, you know, you look at your spinal column, right?
- 17:50That is all just an information superhighway. You know, that's your wiring.
- 17:55And then you've got your tailbone. And when your tailbone comes into proximity with that rock.
- 18:01Now, rocks are electromagnetic beings, really.
- 18:04They're putting out energy and they're pulling it in. And when you're in their
- 18:09energy field, which is typically four times the diameter of the rock,
- 18:14you are receiving that energy.
- 18:16This is a big deal. You're getting a huge boost. And if you're sitting on it,
- 18:19you're receiving that information.
- 18:21It's huge. It's fascinating. We move through our life so asleep,
- 18:24not realizing all the amazing things that are happening, the energy exchanges that are happening.
- 18:30And when we're tuned into it.
- 18:33You see more magic, right? Like so much more amazingness is not missed. Yeah.
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- 20:02You don't have to tell the whole details, but that was a bit of a magical experience for you also.
- 20:08And do you see that as connected to your whole kind of journey? Absolutely.
- 20:13Right. Like that's the thing. It's the piece about you connect to your intuitive
- 20:18abilities because it allows you to live a more guided life.
- 20:22And that's exactly what happened, right? Like I was in the listening,
- 20:25where was I going to move back to when it was time for me to come back to Colorado?
- 20:30Because I knew I was coming back, right?
- 20:32And so I ended up in Creststone.
- 20:35And one of my friends had called me on it. She's like, so you moved to this
- 20:39tiny, tiny little remote mountain town.
- 20:41Anyone who knows Crestone, right? A couple hundred people tops in the summer, right?
- 20:45We've got more people, but it's not a lot. And she said, you said you wanted to meet your partner.
- 20:49How are you going to do that in this tiny little town?
- 20:53And I said, well, I don't think he probably lives there, but I think we're going
- 20:56to end up being in the same places, right?
- 20:59And one of the things that I do is I work on being an intentional manifester
- 21:03in my life because we don't even understand how powerful we are as energetic beings.
- 21:08We are electromagnetic beings, meaning we put out signals and we attract signals.
- 21:13So we want to be intentional about what we're putting out there.
- 21:16So I had been being intentional.
- 21:18I wanted to call him my beloved and these were the traits.
- 21:21These were the things that I wanted to do with my partner, right? So I had a list.
- 21:25Well, it turns out at the same time, my partner, I call him my Zen cowboy,
- 21:29he was doing the same thing. He was making a list of things that were important
- 21:32for him in the woman that was going to be in his life that he was trying to call in.
- 21:38And so one afternoon, I, you know, of course, I fell in with the musicians and
- 21:43the artists in Crestone, just as how I'm wired.
- 21:46And so the band, the Blue Rooster out of Crestone was going to be playing in Salida.
- 21:52But I got to go over the pass, right, over Poncha Pass. And I thought, oh, I don't know.
- 21:57It's going to be a lot of work. and I kept getting the nudge, right?
- 22:00Hearing the voices, like, just go. It'll be fun.
- 22:03And so I decided, well, actually what happened was one of the band members was
- 22:07having a birthday and one of the wives was making a chocolate cake and I'm very food motivated.
- 22:11Very much like a lot of my clients, I guess, right?
- 22:14Always treat motivated. And so I thought, well, I could drive over the pass
- 22:18for chocolate cake. So I came to Salida.
- 22:21They were playing at the boathouse for anyone who knows Salida.
- 22:24He was dancing with one of our neighbors, who happens to be one of our neighbors
- 22:27now, and I was dancing with one of the band members' wives and we danced right
- 22:32into each other and he said, you know,
- 22:36hello. And I said, hello. And normally, right?
- 22:40Like my thing is, if you mention you're an animal communicator,
- 22:44people weed themselves out right away.
- 22:46They're either going to say something snarky or kind of condescending or,
- 22:51you know, they're going to be really weird.
- 22:53And so I said that and he just stopped and said, oh my goodness, I love animals.
- 22:59And I have a huge connection with animals.
- 23:02And as I say, the rest is history, right? 10 years later.
- 23:06And it was that part about both of us consciously manifesting it. Right.
- 23:11Everything is energy. What are you going to do with the energy around you?
- 23:14The part that is also cute that he tells it was love at first sight.
- 23:20Love at first sight, Jill. That's what it was. Let me tell you about it.
- 23:26That does sound like him very much so. Very sweet.
- 23:29Very sweet. And then And you end up, you know, coming together and he moves
- 23:34you out to his property, which we're at right now.
- 23:37How many acres do you have? Forty. Wow. Yeah.
- 23:40Really pretty spot here. I'm not going to say exactly where it is,
- 23:43but wonderful mountain views and right by the forest.
- 23:46And I've never met such friendly animals as I have met here.
- 23:50So this is also where pieces of your journey came into play,
- 23:54like the medicine wheel. Yeah, you know, this piece about like earth-based practices, right?
- 24:00Because the earth helps us remember, right, who we are, why we're here,
- 24:07this deeper connection piece.
- 24:09And Indigenous folks around the world have had that close connection.
- 24:14All of us, if we go back far enough in our lineages, we were tribal people sitting
- 24:19around fires, being outside, being connected to the natural world.
- 24:23And when you're living in the natural world in that way, you have to pay attention
- 24:28to the signs and symbols because it's imperative for your survival.
- 24:33And one of the earth-based practices that we found around the world,
- 24:37it's not just North American-based, are medicine wheels.
- 24:40And they are a collection of stones. Typically, they start with the four-directional
- 24:45stones. And it really is this physical piece of working on the land that reminds
- 24:51you that you're connected here, you're connected above. I was pointing to my heart, sorry.
- 24:55I forget sometimes on audios that we're connected to everything and that there
- 25:00really is no difference between us.
- 25:02And so with those medicine wheels, you start with the directional stones, right?
- 25:06You find the east, the west, the north, and the south markers,
- 25:09and you put down bigger stones.
- 25:10Then you fill them in with smaller stones, and each stone can correlate with
- 25:15a time of year or the planet or a plant or an animal.
- 25:19They all have very different significance. And again, it's going to depend on
- 25:23what tribal affiliation you have or your lineage, what you've learned, yeah.
- 25:29And so in my teachings, in my trainings, I had initiations working with the medicine wheel.
- 25:36And so I would oftentimes just kind of create my own medicine wheel with four
- 25:39directional stones, whether it was on my desk or just outside,
- 25:43but just, you know, to connect with and go through the process of connecting
- 25:47with each direction and the elements and all of those pieces.
- 25:51So I had been living here on the land, I don't know, a couple of years probably at that point.
- 25:56And I'd been walking the land every day, right, as part of my own personal practice.
- 25:59And one day I came to a clearing in the trees and I was like,
- 26:03oh, this wants to be a medicine wheel.
- 26:05And so I shared it with my partner and he was like, oh, yeah, that feels really good.
- 26:10So he started collecting stones like right away.
- 26:13I was very impressed. Like I would sit, you know, doing my work and I would
- 26:17watch him with a wheelbarrow go high with all these barrels of stones.
- 26:22And so he got them all out there and he said, OK, it's time to lay the directional
- 26:26stones. And you do it very ceremoniously, right? Because this is a ritual.
- 26:29This is very special. You're connecting with the actual energy,
- 26:33the entity of the direction of the east and the direction of the north.
- 26:36And, you know, each one has its own energy and it correlates with different
- 26:40seasons of our lives and even day.
- 26:43You've had time of day and all of this. So we're getting ready to do this.
- 26:46And I look down and I'm starting in the east and there's already a big stone
- 26:52in the ground in the direction of the east.
- 26:55So then I start like looking around and I look and there's one in the south
- 27:00and there's one in the west and there's one in the north.
- 27:03And I'm like, how did I not see that? I mean, you know, there's a little growth
- 27:07and stuff. And so I got the compass out.
- 27:09And sure enough, it's only a few degrees off, which means at some point it was set.
- 27:14And we do know the San Isabel National Forest, which is what we back up against, was an old Ute trail.
- 27:21They would go to Mount Princeton, right?
- 27:24And then the hunting grounds in this area. So it makes a lot of sense that it
- 27:28would have been. I've been in communication with...
- 27:30With some different chiefs of different tribes to ask them.
- 27:34It wasn't a written down. It's not like it would be cataloged.
- 27:37Oh, yeah, in Nathrop, it's this, right?
- 27:40But everything that they asked me and that I talked to them with seems to have
- 27:45pointed to that. And so we reactivated it.
- 27:48We maintain that and we use it in our practice.
- 27:51And it's a very sacred, you know, it's a church, right?
- 27:55And you need to treat it as such, just like if you go into a cathedral or a
- 27:59temple or you know, something to that effect.
- 28:02And so right in the book, I tell the story because it's a phenomenal story.
- 28:06But before I did that, because my publisher had asked me, you know,
- 28:09can we tell the medicine wheel story? And I said, I don't know if I can, right?
- 28:13I know part of the story is mine to tell, but I don't know. It's bigger.
- 28:16This was handed down. I need to go be with it. So I was in meditation for multiple
- 28:20days about that and talking and I walked the wheel each day.
- 28:24And on the last day that I did it, I finished and I sat down on a bench that we have next to it.
- 28:30And these deer walked through on the north side.
- 28:36And at this point, my great Dane Astro was with me. He didn't move.
- 28:39His eyes were trained on him.
- 28:41The deer were trained on us. And it was this huge buck and a doe.
- 28:44And energetically and symbolically, metaphysically, deer have to do with a gentle
- 28:50luring to new adventures and traditional ways.
- 28:54And so I knew right away, this was about sharing, right? This is a new adventure,
- 28:58get it out there and share the traditional ways.
- 29:01Then there was this Clark's Nutcracker. It's a big gray seed eating bird. Yeah.
- 29:07And these birds are phenomenal. They will plant 30 to 50,000 seeds throughout the summer.
- 29:14And they find almost all of them. They have an over 90% rate.
- 29:18I don't know who studies this, but they have over 90%.
- 29:21And that energy and their energy, again, the symbology has to do with ancient
- 29:27wisdom being uncovered again.
- 29:30And so I knew, right, like, oh, you start piecing these together,
- 29:33and you get the puzzle that comes together that says, yes, it's time to share the ancient wisdom.
- 29:39And you're, of course, in your practice and being aware, there was a woman visiting
- 29:43me when we had our interview scheduled.
- 29:46I think we were getting together the next day, and I only saw her for a couple
- 29:50hours, but she shared with me that she was pursuing these probably coincidences,
- 29:56some people might call them.
- 29:58Certain numbers were coming up for her, but she was paying attention,
- 30:01and she was trying to make sense of it all.
- 30:04And I just wanted to validate that
- 30:08piece that we all often have these serendipitous, coincidental things.
- 30:13We talk with our friends about this, and we've got a group that we can kind
- 30:19of go, yeah, that's cool.
- 30:21It's not just,
- 30:23for us, a coincidence. It's something more, and we're trying to pay attention.
- 30:27And what I like about your practice when you're supporting other people is that
- 30:32you let them own their experiences and you help them maybe notice,
- 30:38yes, that might be a symbol, and that's your specifics.
- 30:42Yeah, your intuitive backpack. I help you unpack your intuitive backpack, right?
- 30:45We all know, all of us in Colorado know what it's like to have a backpack on
- 30:48and be like, where is my granola bar, right?
- 30:51Oh, shoot. It's at the bottom, right? Or my water or my map,
- 30:54right? I need to know where I'm going.
- 30:56And when you have a hiking partner, right? They can turn you around,
- 30:59dig in the bag. Here's your flashlight.
- 31:01Here's your water. Here's your map. Eat your granola bar, right?
- 31:04And it just makes it easier.
- 31:06It's not that they're doing the hike for you, but you're helping them get the
- 31:11tools. And that's exactly it.
- 31:12Because the way that our intuition works is it works with our subconscious mind,
- 31:17which doesn't have language.
- 31:19And so it's colors and feelings and thoughts and emotions, right?
- 31:24And so what will happen is something will be trying to get our attention,
- 31:29right? And it will hit that subconscious side of the brain.
- 31:32And then the analytical brain can help us connect the dots.
- 31:37Except for most of us, what happens is the intuitive side shows up and the analytical
- 31:42side shows up like a bouncer.
- 31:44And it's like, who is that? Cite your source. Where'd you get that information?
- 31:47And the intuitive side goes and runs away.
- 31:51So we have to train our brain to watch for that.
- 31:54Right. So I know right when a deer shows up, I know what it means for me. Right.
- 31:59I've worked with them enough. They've come up in other people's sessions.
- 32:02And so it's that piece about helping people tune in because all of us are wired
- 32:07for this, but we're wired a little bit differently. Right. Some people are more clairvoyant.
- 32:12They see things more. Some people hear more. Some people feel things more.
- 32:16I definitely work with people that are, you know, one of those.
- 32:20Mine comes through typically all of them and usually simultaneously.
- 32:24If I sit and dissect it, I can say, okay, this knowingness dropped in first, then I saw that.
- 32:29And then I, you know, and I really have to discern, but that's fine, right?
- 32:33But for most of us, it's all happening concurrently. It's the small voice.
- 32:37It's the quiet one. The one that's like, me, me, me, me, me,
- 32:40look at me. That's not it. Thank you.
- 32:42Stand over there. Now let me feel in. And it's a very small nudge.
- 32:46And that's why it's subtle energy.
- 32:47So we have to learn how to not be distracted and pay attention, right?
- 32:51Like most of the time when I'm just going through my day, right,
- 32:54I'm distracted like everybody else.
- 32:56But when I'm in a session, right, like I have sat down, I've done breathing.
- 33:00Maybe I'm using essential oils.
- 33:02Maybe I've got some crystals, right? You kind of prepare. Yes,
- 33:04to slow my mind down so that I can be aware.
- 33:09She's been using this word unfolding. Golding, and I actually mentioned you
- 33:14in a couple other interviews, so your name comes up.
- 33:17When we're talking about listening and paying attention, sometimes when we're
- 33:22trying hard, it is a form of distraction.
- 33:26And I had a really tough night last night. It was the night before the podcast launch, right?
- 33:32And something was going wrong. And I was in tears. I couldn't figure it out.
- 33:37And I actually called my son and he called me down.
- 33:40He told me all the things I used to tell him. So we could do that for each other
- 33:44now. But I thought about stuff you and I talked about, taking a deep breath
- 33:48and just being more present and take a few steps back.
- 33:52And that unfolding word came into my head. And I'm like, I've just got to go to bed and let it go.
- 33:58And then everything was all right the next morning, which was magic to me, I must say.
- 34:04And I said a lot of grateful things and kind of felt very wondrous about that and happy.
- 34:12Yeah. But my conversations with you lately definitely helped me with that.
- 34:17Oh, I'm so glad. Oh, yeah.
- 34:19You know, I always look at it like a big cosmic scavenger hunt,
- 34:23right? We get one piece and we don't know the whole thing.
- 34:25We can't say the whole puzzle, but we're given one piece.
- 34:28And what are we going to do with that, right? Are we going to feel into it?
- 34:31Are we going to be like, meh, whatever, right?
- 34:33And then we'll get another piece, right? And that is the unfolding, right?
- 34:38That next piece. One of the things that was taught to be channeled through a
- 34:41tree was a three-step process.
- 34:44And so the first thing is what's up, right?
- 34:47It's not working. The technology is not working and it needs to be working.
- 34:51There's a timeline here.
- 34:52I have contractual obligations, whatever it is. That's step one.
- 34:56Step two, how do you feel about it? Because emotion are energies in motion.
- 35:01And that's important. That energy is telling you something.
- 35:05So I'm mad. I'm sad. I'm scared. I'm angry. I want to quit.
- 35:08Like any of the emotions, just let them come up. We spend so much time trying to push them down.
- 35:14And it's like, you know that old game whack-a-mole where
- 35:17you'd like hit the little mole comes up you hit him this is very violent
- 35:20and I wish we had a different example but it's what we got and then
- 35:22you hit him and he pops up somewhere else that's what happens with energy if
- 35:26we don't deal with it so we do the first step what's up second step this is
- 35:30how I feel a bit about it and the third step allows us to create a pivot point
- 35:34and it creates a shift in in our the trajectory of our energy so even though that's happening,
- 35:41even though I can't get the tech to work, and even though I can't stop crying
- 35:45about it, that's not my ultimate truth,
- 35:48right? This is bigger than me.
- 35:50My truth, this is little and stupid. I can breathe, right?
- 35:54And then when we shift into gratitude, our whole vibration changes.
- 35:59As we do that and we shift the energy, that allows a new attraction to come
- 36:03in, right? So you go to bed, you're like, there's nothing I can do anyway.
- 36:05And it can shift, right? When we're on it so tight, it can't move.
- 36:10That's good advice. Well, right. And the thing is, is we're energetic beings.
- 36:14We move through our day and then we get hit with energy. And what we try and
- 36:17do is contract around it, right?
- 36:19If I can make the energy smaller and more manageable is what we're thinking
- 36:23without thinking it, right?
- 36:25But that's not it. We need to expand around it so it can flow through. Okay.
- 36:30Right. But we want to control it and fix it. And we can't. Right.
- 36:35It's just a human condition. Nothing that we do is wrong. Some of it is just
- 36:39more effective than other things. Yeah. Yeah.
- 36:42Oh, my goodness. It's been a joy to be in Ana Maria's surroundings.
- 36:47It's very welcoming and cozy and filled with animals.
- 36:51Thank you so much. Thank you, Miss Jill. This is great. Yeah.
- 36:55Have a good rest of your evening. You too. Okay. Bye-bye, everybody.
- 36:59Hey, thanks for listening. I appreciate each and every listener,
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