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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we are really getting into the weeds on Fig
- 0:12Tree Holdings Limited or FHL.
- 0:14We're looking at their performance for the third quarter and really the first nine months of 2025.
- 0:20And this is such a critical document to unpack. It's not just a standard report,
- 0:24because the whole context around FHL right now just raises the stakes on every single line item.
- 0:30Our goal today is to cut through that, understand the why behind the numbers,
- 0:34the good and the bad, and figure out what management thinks is next.
- 0:37And we have to start with the, well, the extraordinary reason they're even publishing
- 0:40this. This isn't voluntary.
- 0:41They are mandated to announce these quarterly results. It's a requirement from
- 0:45the Singapore Exchange.
- 0:46It is. And that mandate comes from a really troubled financial history.
- 0:50FHL is under what's called Rule 705-2C of the Catalyst Rules because their auditors
- 0:55issued a disclaimer of opinion.
- 0:57And not just for one year. No, for three consecutive years, FY 2022, 2023, and 2024.
- 1:04Okay, let's just pause there. For anyone listening who isn't deep in finance
- 1:07jargon, what does a three-year disclaimer of opinion actually signal?
- 1:11It's basically the worst possible finding from an auditor. It means they couldn't
- 1:14get enough evidence to even form an opinion. They're telling the market,
- 1:17look, we just cannot vouch for these accounts.
- 1:19So for three years, the auditors have essentially thrown their hands up. Exactly.
- 1:23It signals huge systemic problems, maybe with their controls,
- 1:26their valuations, record keeping.
- 1:28Who knows? But it tells you this company is under intense scrutiny.
- 1:32So this Q3 report, it's their attempt to show some stability under all that pressure.
- 1:37Right. So with that high stakes backdrop, let's get to the numbers.
- 1:40What do the headlines for the first nine months of 2025, the 9M 2025 period? Tell us.
- 1:47The big story, the unmissable story, is just the massive collapse in their operations.
- 1:52I mean, the revenue number is brutal. For the nine months, revenue was $01.727 million.
- 1:57And compared to last year. That is a 75.3% drop from the $6.996 million they
- 2:05did in the same period last year.
- 2:0675%. A three-quarters wipeout. That one number basically dictates the entire
- 2:11rest of the story, doesn't it? It has to. And it does.
- 2:13Gross profit just followed it right down. it shrank by 69.2%,
- 2:17falling from over half a million to just $179,000.
- 2:22And even with some pretty aggressive cost-cutting, which we'll get to,
- 2:26the bottom line, loss for the period actually got worse.
- 2:29It widened by about 4.9% to $3.1 million.
- 2:33So a company under regulatory fire
- 2:35reporting a huge loss and a 75% drop in revenue. The big question is why?
- 2:40Is the whole market crashing, or is this something specific to FHL?
- 2:44Oh, this is very specific to them.
- 2:46It really reveals a core risk in their whole business model.
- 2:50The documents pin the revenue collapse directly on the completion of one single
- 2:54project, the large-scale GRGRA to design and build project, which finished up late last year.
- 2:59So they were heavily reliant on one massive project, and when it ended...
- 3:03Puff. The revenue vanished. Precisely. If you don't have another huge project
- 3:07ready to go immediately, your financials just fall off a cliff.
- 3:09And you can see that cliff dive in the geographic numbers.
- 3:11It's like they went from being a China-focused company to a small Singaporean
- 3:14one overnight. That's a perfect way to put it.
- 3:16Revenue from China dropped from almost $7 million to just $287,000. It's basically gone.
- 3:23Meanwhile, Singapore revenue, which is only about $1.4 million,
- 3:27is now the bulk of their income.
- 3:29They're trying to fill that massive hole with smaller, local jobs,
- 3:33like a new project for hypesing engineering.
- 3:35But the report mentions a problem with that strategy. It does.
- 3:39These smaller replacement projects just have lower profit margins.
- 3:42So that just puts even more pressure on the already tiny gross profit.
- 3:45OK, but this is where it gets, I think, really interesting because they didn't
- 3:49just sit there and take it.
- 3:50They clearly saw this revenue collapse coming and hit the brakes hard on spending. Absolutely.
- 3:55There's some genuinely good news buried in the admin expenses.
- 3:59General and administrative costs actually decreased by 9.4%.
- 4:02Management was clearly aggressive with internal belt tightening.
- 4:06You see it mainly in lower employee benefits.
- 4:09So they showed real discipline where they could.
- 4:11Yes, but that discipline was undermined by things they couldn't control.
- 4:16A chunk of those savings got eaten up by unrealized foreign exchange losses.
- 4:20The U.S. dollar and the renminbi weakened against the Singapore dollar, and that just bit them.
- 4:26The classic case of doing everything
- 4:27right internally, but the external market just works against you.
- 4:31And at the same time, another cost was going in the wrong direction.
- 4:34A cost that really tells the story of their situation right now.
- 4:38Finance costs. Right. Finance costs went up 9.4% to over half a million dollars.
- 4:43Why is that specific increase so important? Because the report tells us exactly why they went up.
- 4:49It was, and I'm quoting here, primarily due to an increase in shareholders' loans.
- 4:53They are becoming more and more dependent on debt from their own shareholders
- 4:57just to keep the lights on.
- 4:58So they're cutting staff costs to save money, but the cost of the internal debt
- 5:02they need to survive is rising almost as fast.
- 5:04Exactly. And that brings us to maybe the most startling detail in the whole report.
- 5:08Just think about this. The total gross profit for the nine months was S$179,000.
- 5:15Okay, $179,000. Meanwhile, the compensation for key management personnel,
- 5:19even after being reduced, was $954,844.
- 5:24Wait, say that again? Their entire gross profit from operations was S$179,000.
- 5:30And they paid their top execs almost a million dollars. Correct.
- 5:33The management payroll was more than five times the gross profit.
- 5:37That single data point tells you the core business is completely unsustainable right now.
- 5:41The company is only existing because of external support. Which you can also
- 5:45see in the one legitimate bright spot. Right, the share of results from their associates.
- 5:48That actually increased by almost 28%, bringing in about S-417,000 dollars.
- 5:54That income from their related companies is providing a really essential buffer
- 5:58against the huge losses in their main business.
- 6:00It's a lifeline, but it doesn't change the state of their core operations.
- 6:04Which brings us to the balance sheet and the very serious warning signs there.
- 6:08Let's talk about cash flow and this going concern issue. The cash situation is, well, it's grim.
- 6:14The cash flow statement shows they burned through S2.22 million dollars in their
- 6:19operations over the nine months. That's a serious burn rate.
- 6:21Their cash holdings dropped by S1.7 million dollars, and they ended the period
- 6:26with only S$430,000 in the bank.
- 6:29They're running on fumes. So how did they survive that cash burn?
- 6:32The financing section tells you.
- 6:34They brought in about half a million net from financing activities,
- 6:38but that came from taking on S$2.29 million in new borrowings from shareholders and related parties.
- 6:44It's pure financial life support. Which leads us to the biggest red flag in the whole document.
- 6:50Going concern risk. The report seems to present a paradox. It says they have
- 6:54S8 million dollars in net current assets, but then immediately talks about a deficiency.
- 6:59How can both be true? It's the classic gap between accounting rules and operational reality.
- 7:03To say you're a going concern that you'll still be in business in 12 months,
- 7:07you have to be honest about uncertainties.
- 7:09And the key uncertainty here is what they have to exclude from the working capital.
- 7:13They point out that a loan of 12.5 million dollars that is owed to them by an
- 7:17associate is in default.
- 7:18And they don't expect to get that money back anytime soon. They explicitly say
- 7:22cash inflow from it is not probable in the next year.
- 7:25So for operational planning, you have to take it off the books. And when you remove that,
- 7:30$12.5 million asset that they probably won't collect.
- 7:34What does the picture look like? It flips completely. They go from that S8 million
- 7:38dollar surplus to an adjusted deficiency in net current assets of $4.4445 million.
- 7:46That's the reality. Without recovering that defaulted loan, they are technically insolvent.
- 7:52Yet the directors still say they're a going concern. What are they basing that on?
- 7:55It's based entirely on projections and, more importantly, promises of support.
- 8:00First, they say their cash flow forecast predicts they'll generate positive
- 8:03cash flow from operations in the next 12 months.
- 8:05That's a heroic assumption, but they have to say it. The second part,
- 8:09that shareholder lifeline must still be active.
- 8:11It is. After the reporting period ended, a corporate shareholder pumped in another
- 8:16$0.95 million interest-bearing loan.
- 8:20And this isn't just a friendly loan. The report makes a point of saying this
- 8:24new loan and other outstanding ones are secured by a share charge over a subsidiary's
- 8:30interest in a PRC investment property. Okay, let's translate that.
- 8:33What does secured by a share charge actually mean here?
- 8:37It means the shareholder lending the money has collateral.
- 8:41FHL owns a piece of an investment property in China. The lender now has a claim
- 8:45on the shares of the entity that owns that property.
- 8:48If FHL defaults on these loans, the shareholder can take control of that property
- 8:53interest. It shows the support isn't unconditional.
- 8:56So the company's entire future depends on the continued willingness of a related
- 9:00party to extend credit, using their best remaining assets as security.
- 9:04That is the entire strategy right now. It is purely defensive,
- 9:07purely about managing liquidity risk.
- 9:09So given all of that, the debt, the cost-cutting, pledging assets,
- 9:12what does management say about the future?
- 9:14What's the outlook? They are, not surprisingly, extremely cautious,
- 9:18and it's the only responsible position they could take.
- 9:21They cite challenging global conditions, which they expect will make it hard to win new projects.
- 9:27And they explicitly warn that cost pressures from labor and materials aren't going away.
- 9:32Which means even the small projects they do win will have their margins squeezed. Exactly.
- 9:37So the strategy is all about survival, not growth.
- 9:40The focus is on strengthening the balance sheet, hoarding cash,
- 9:43and critically selling assets to generate liquidity.
- 9:46And we can see that playing out. In Australia, at their Esme Residential Development,
- 9:51they sold one unit and are pushing hard to sell the other four.
- 9:54Right. Every dollar from those sales goes straight into working capital.
- 9:57Same with their Changshu Industrial Park in China. It's stable,
- 10:00but they're actively trying to fill one recently vacated spot.
- 10:03They can't afford any dip in income.
- 10:05And then there's that significant event after the quarter ended with their D.C. Alliance investment.
- 10:11That also seems to be about raising cash. Yes.
- 10:14The disposal of two subsidiaries for A, $4.1 million.
- 10:19It looks like an internal restructuring maybe to clean up that portfolio to
- 10:22make it easier to monetize later.
- 10:24It's all proactive defensive management to secure future cash. So the outlook is clear.
- 10:29It's managed for survival and hope conditions improve enough to make their core
- 10:33business profitable again. That's it.
- 10:35The immediate goal is not profit. It's solvency.
- 10:38They are betting on these asset sales and the continued patience of their related party lenders.
- 10:43So to wrap this all up, FHL has weathered a massive 75 percent revenue shock
- 10:48from a key project ending that led to a wider loss, even with some impressive cost control.
- 10:54And they're only staying afloat because of financial lifelines from associates
- 10:57and, most critically, corporate shareholders.
- 11:00And that reliance is the whole story. The technical reality is they're running
- 11:03with a real net current asset deficiency of over S4 million dollars.
- 11:08The core takeaway for you, the listener, is that this company's survival from
- 11:11one month to the next depends on a corporate shareholder's willingness to keep
- 11:14lending them the money secured by their best assets.
- 11:17That interdependency dictates everything. It does. And we know they're actively
- 11:22bidding on new design and build projects, trying to get the core business running again.
- 11:26But we also know the business segment lost over S2 million dollars in these nine months.
- 11:31So given management's own warning about persistent cost pressures,
- 11:35here's the final question to think about.
- 11:37How incredibly high do the profit margins on any new projects need to be,
- 11:41just to cover the existing operational losses and the rising cost of the shareholder
- 11:45debt that's keeping them alive? That is the invisible hurdle FHL has to clear
- 11:49to truly escape this going concern risk.