Latest / The Breakfast Club / Swizz Beatz Talks New Music, Jay-Z, DMX Spirit, Verzuz, GOAT Talk + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yea talking about experience morning. Everybody's d J n V.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Charlamagne and to God we are the breakfast club. We
- 0:09Speaker 1: got a special guests in the building.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Swizzy Zone Zone Zone Zone Zone On y'all, y'all smell
- 0:15Speaker 2: like new money in the head. This building is crazy.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Swiss say he smelled new money, then we must really
- 0:20Speaker 3: smell like now new money smell.
- 0:25Speaker 4: Well, Swiss is here.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Now.
- 0:27Speaker 4: Now you decided to drop a.
- 0:28Speaker 5: EP, You're back in your music bag?
- 0:30Speaker 4: What got you back in the bag?
- 0:32Speaker 2: I got a phone call from my Virgo brother and
- 0:34Speaker 2: I two years ago and he was like, Yo, you
- 0:38Speaker 2: know I need you to do me a favor. Massive
- 0:41Speaker 2: Pill is representing the Hip Hop fiftieth and we're doing
- 0:45Speaker 2: something with producers and I was like okay, and he
- 0:48Speaker 2: was like, Prima gonna do Valume one, You'll do Volume two,
- 0:52Speaker 2: think hit Boy and a couple of other producers. And
- 0:55Speaker 2: I was like, okay, let's do it. But I'm telling
- 0:58Speaker 2: you that the two years went so fast. I got
- 0:59Speaker 2: a phone call it was like, you know, you're up
- 1:02Speaker 2: next for your for your EP, and I'm like what,
- 1:06Speaker 2: And so I'm not gonna lie like when I first
- 1:09Speaker 2: was when he first told me I wasn't taking it serious.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Like I was like, I'm gonna just get five songs
- 1:13Speaker 2: off the hard drive and just whatever. But then like
- 1:16Speaker 2: as it got close, I was like, not everything count
- 1:19Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I can't come out and
- 1:22Speaker 2: just put anything out. So then I started taking the
- 1:24Speaker 2: project serious and and we hit and here we are now.
- 1:28Speaker 3: But the crazy part is if you was up against
- 1:30Speaker 3: the deadline to have Jay Electronic album on a project,
- 1:33Speaker 3: how did you catch that You're waiting on a Ja
- 1:36Speaker 3: Electronic nic?
- 1:39Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you about We love Jay Electronic.
- 1:42Speaker 2: He's a very special guy. So I dropped. I dropped
- 1:46Speaker 2: the commercial for the for the for the EP. I
- 1:50Speaker 2: get a call from Jail Electronic. Yo, I gave you
- 1:55Speaker 2: my word. I'm you know, I told you I was
- 1:56Speaker 2: gonna give you a verse. I'm I'm ready to do
- 1:59Speaker 2: it like what we're doing, like I need, I need
- 2:00Speaker 2: you to change the track listing. So people noticed one
- 2:04Speaker 2: track listen came. He wasn't on that track. He was
- 2:07Speaker 2: on the next track. Listen. It is the fastest I
- 2:09Speaker 2: ever seen him say music. So I was happy that
- 2:11Speaker 2: he was inspired by what he was singing and was
- 2:14Speaker 2: just like yo, he gave me the He gave me
- 2:16Speaker 2: the verse in thirty minutes. Really yes, wow, And so
- 2:19Speaker 2: you had to send it to him he worked with
- 2:22Speaker 2: him in the studio, or you send it to he
- 2:24Speaker 2: was in Egypt somewhere.
- 2:25Speaker 4: That's what I said, because you're in Mexico.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Everywhere.
- 2:29Speaker 3: How do you pick who you want on a project
- 2:31Speaker 3: that's only five six songs?
- 2:33Speaker 2: Though it was pretty it was pretty easy. I actually
- 2:36Speaker 2: liked that that amount of length for music, it's easy
- 2:41Speaker 2: to digest. And then you know, I knew I wanted
- 2:44Speaker 2: to put an eyes on it. He invited me to
- 2:46Speaker 2: the project, and then I also wanted to work with
- 2:48Speaker 2: some of the younger artists, you know, because I talk
- 2:51Speaker 2: to them every day. We don't necessarily talk about music,
- 2:54Speaker 2: but it's just like, you know what, since we speak
- 2:56Speaker 2: every day, let's let's have some fun as well. You know,
- 2:58Speaker 2: I speak to Dirk the boogie five year old. You know,
- 3:03Speaker 2: we kicked it with him from when him and my
- 3:05Speaker 2: wife did the track bad Man dra like what they
- 3:08Speaker 2: got going on in Jersey. And then also you know,
- 3:11Speaker 2: going to jail, like trying just wanted to make like
- 3:13Speaker 2: a little gumbo, just to like have from and be
- 3:16Speaker 2: inspired myself. I didn't want it because it's the hip
- 3:18Speaker 2: hop fifty if I didn't want it to just feel
- 3:20Speaker 2: super nostalgic, like I'm not even I'm trying to move.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Out of that space. Actually, now, what about Scarlup? I
- 3:27Speaker 1: see you work with Scarlet Orders from the BX. That's
- 3:30Speaker 1: the video I posted a couple of weeks ago. So
- 3:33Speaker 1: how did you get up with Scarll Lub? I met
- 3:34Speaker 1: her for the first time a couple days ago.
- 3:36Speaker 2: She good, She's a good person. She a good person.
- 3:39Speaker 2: I think that, you know, like the song that she
- 3:41Speaker 2: got out of Now is amazing, but with made like
- 3:44Speaker 2: that song was the other styles that she can do.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, she could do damn X, but then
- 3:48Speaker 2: she could do Lawrence Hill like that, especially like when
- 3:52Speaker 2: when you find somebody that's like super versatile like that,
- 3:54Speaker 2: that's not just one lane one way, Like she can
- 3:57Speaker 2: go like five different lanes. And that's why I was like,
- 4:00Speaker 2: you know, I'm executive produce her record. I always wanted
- 4:03Speaker 2: to do do something like that for somebody from the
- 4:05Speaker 2: Bronx anyway, and this is like the perfect opportunity.
- 4:07Speaker 5: Are you doing our whole project?
- 4:08Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 4:09Speaker 4: Wow?
- 4:09Speaker 2: So she signed to you or no, I don't want to.
- 4:12Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to sign no way, but
- 4:14Speaker 2: I want to support. I'm executive produce it the whole thing.
- 4:18Speaker 1: I think she's going today to sign. I think I
- 4:19Speaker 1: think she told me that Tuesday she was going to
- 4:22Speaker 1: hopefully close the deal. So I told her, will I
- 4:24Speaker 1: will play the record in the morning for her on
- 4:26Speaker 1: her way to her deal.
- 4:26Speaker 4: So hopefully she closed.
- 4:27Speaker 5: Probably helped to close the deal if the whole project, they.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Probably she got she got a lot of options on
- 4:33Speaker 2: the table. You know, I could just stare in the
- 4:36Speaker 2: right direction, but like you know, you got to let
- 4:38Speaker 2: the artists do their thing as well. And she's a
- 4:41Speaker 2: very very smart girl, and so I think I think
- 4:43Speaker 2: she I think we're going to see something great from her.
- 4:46Speaker 3: When you say the city sounds like, do you feel
- 4:48Speaker 3: like this is what you want the city to sound like,
- 4:50Speaker 3: or you feel like this is what the city sounds
- 4:52Speaker 3: like now that the city is missing production.
- 4:53Speaker 2: We don't want the city to sound like. That's how
- 4:55Speaker 2: I said, this is what the city is supposed to
- 4:57Speaker 2: sound like. This is what the city is supposed to
- 4:59Speaker 2: sound like, just because like you know, when I was
- 5:02Speaker 2: coming back and forth to New York. It didn't sound
- 5:05Speaker 2: like I was in New York, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Sound like I'm in Atlanta, or it sounds like I'm
- 5:10Speaker 2: somewhere else on Africa now too, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:13Speaker 2: So like as much as possible, I want to contribute
- 5:15Speaker 2: those records that you know that that just feel good
- 5:18Speaker 2: when you ride around in the street, you get off
- 5:20Speaker 2: the plane, you turn the radio on, you're hearing something
- 5:23Speaker 2: that make you feel like you're back home. Like us
- 5:25Speaker 2: having an identity in New York. It's like very very important,
- 5:28Speaker 2: Like people used to just travel here just to get
- 5:31Speaker 2: that energy and go back and make their music, you
- 5:34Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But you know, you can't just
- 5:36Speaker 2: complain about it and don't do nothing about it, right
- 5:38Speaker 2: you know. So like that's why like even the Scarlet
- 5:41Speaker 2: track with Benny and Kiss, like that's on purpose, Like
- 5:44Speaker 2: the catast drums with it is on purpose. For the
- 5:46Speaker 2: boom back the example, yeah, the example, Like all those
- 5:49Speaker 2: things are like purposeful because so you can put that
- 5:53Speaker 2: identity like oh, this is like a New York song,
- 5:55Speaker 2: like you know, just trying to get back to that.
- 5:57Speaker 2: But now New York, don't you know, Like even the
- 5:59Speaker 2: music don't sound like that no more. You know, like
- 6:02Speaker 2: my kids could care that's a caress one or whatever
- 6:06Speaker 2: drums on it. They listening to what they listening to.
- 6:08Speaker 2: But I still got to give people like some of
- 6:11Speaker 2: the authentic energy because I come from it.
- 6:14Speaker 3: How come you think y'all never got backlash as Rough Riders,
- 6:17Speaker 3: because there was a time where your production was it
- 6:20Speaker 3: felt so New York, but it still had that bounce
- 6:22Speaker 3: to it, you know what I mean? Like, why do
- 6:23Speaker 3: you think y'all never got flat? You see a lot
- 6:25Speaker 3: of artis not like, oh, you sound like you from
- 6:26Speaker 3: the South.
- 6:29Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted problems. They probably you know
- 6:33Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But people used to always like I
- 6:37Speaker 2: used to head through the rumblings like, no, that's not
- 6:39Speaker 2: real New York, like that's this and you know we
- 6:42Speaker 2: put we put juvenile on down bottom. That's when I
- 6:45Speaker 2: really was feeling it. You know, it's like, nah, that's like,
- 6:48Speaker 2: what's that? Because Atlanta wasn't like what it is today.
- 6:51Speaker 2: They was like, Yo, that's that Bama stuff. And they
- 6:52Speaker 2: used to talk all crazy. I'm like, yo, we the
- 6:56Speaker 2: sound gotta go everywhere. You know what I'm saying. I
- 6:58Speaker 2: felt that it was New York because Drag was on
- 7:01Speaker 2: it and I produced it. It don't get no more
- 7:03Speaker 2: in New York than that. Don't matter. It shouldn't matter
- 7:05Speaker 2: who the feature is, you know what I'm saying. It's
- 7:07Speaker 2: just like like I'm the New York producer for the
- 7:10Speaker 2: mass Appel Hip Hop fiftieth, but I got Dirk on it.
- 7:13Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's different artists that that's
- 7:15Speaker 2: not from New York. And I'm just like, nah, Like
- 7:17Speaker 2: everybody don't got to beat from New York for having
- 7:20Speaker 2: New York energy, Like I'm the New York energy.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Now, what happened with with Versus?
- 7:24Speaker 1: I know one time, you know, Versus was everybody was
- 7:27Speaker 1: all in with you and Swizz and you and Tim.
- 7:30Speaker 4: Then you said stop f with Versus because it was
- 7:33Speaker 4: a problem with Trilla.
- 7:34Speaker 2: So I never said step with Versus.
- 7:36Speaker 4: That was the feeling.
- 7:38Speaker 1: So, so what happened with with Versus and Trilla? And
- 7:40Speaker 1: is everything worked out now? And we're gonna start getting
- 7:42Speaker 1: some more Versus back.
- 7:44Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna get Versus back. You know, we're in
- 7:47Speaker 2: a We're in a great space. I actually liked that
- 7:49Speaker 2: we took a time out. It was getting wild. I'm
- 7:52Speaker 2: not gonna lie, you know like it was it was,
- 7:54Speaker 2: it was becoming crazy. But this time when we're coming back,
- 7:58Speaker 2: we're gonna give you a full calendar, bigger verses. Well
- 8:02Speaker 2: I don't like to worry bigger verses, but just still
- 8:04Speaker 2: unique verses that the people want to see that they
- 8:07Speaker 2: probably thought they wasn't going to get. And so my
- 8:09Speaker 2: thing is like with me and Tim, is like I'd
- 8:11Speaker 2: rather take our time and come back like with an
- 8:15Speaker 2: amazing schedule that people going to go crazy and y'all
- 8:17Speaker 2: to see this very soon, and then also with new management,
- 8:22Speaker 2: like with a whole new like take it serious, you know,
- 8:24Speaker 2: like this started out in our basements, you know, and
- 8:27Speaker 2: we turned into BT like overnight. So we had to
- 8:30Speaker 2: take time out to be like, listen, we have something
- 8:33Speaker 2: special here, Like let's treat it like that. And then
- 8:35Speaker 2: also let's show the artists how to treat it like that.
- 8:38Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, shawing up late like how
- 8:40Speaker 2: I did today, you know what I'm saying, But treat
- 8:44Speaker 2: it like how you treating those other shows that you're
- 8:47Speaker 2: not getting nothing from technically you might get a beautiful trophy.
- 8:50Speaker 2: But like this right here, your streams going up seven
- 8:53Speaker 2: hundred percent. Mostly every artist that did Versus, they've been
- 8:56Speaker 2: on festivals and toys since Versus. You know, it actually
- 9:01Speaker 2: helped artists, and so like, you know, my thing is like,
- 9:04Speaker 2: how can we come up with a new schedule, how
- 9:06Speaker 2: can we have a real showrunner like treat it like
- 9:09Speaker 2: for real? And I think that when it comes back,
- 9:11Speaker 2: it's going to be a breath of fresh air, even
- 9:14Speaker 2: without us talking about it Versus. I hear about the
- 9:16Speaker 2: Versus every day, Not that all of them makes sense,
- 9:18Speaker 2: but I hear about the Versus every day.
- 9:20Speaker 1: It's good conversation. It keeps it keeps the culture talking.
- 9:23Speaker 1: And what happened with Trilla? Did y'all and Trilla work
- 9:25Speaker 1: that situation out?
- 9:26Speaker 5: Y'all sue them? N?
- 9:27Speaker 2: Yeah? We you know, we definitely, we definitely sue them.
- 9:31Speaker 2: We definitely got to a settlement. And I feel that
- 9:36Speaker 2: me and Tim in a great space now, like a
- 9:38Speaker 2: very good space.
- 9:39Speaker 4: So Chilla still involved.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Yeah, as of right now, they're involved.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Yeah, are you excited about some of the ones you've
- 9:44Speaker 3: been hearing?
- 9:45Speaker 5: Of course? JD and Diddy they say that's a go.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I hope that's how y'all relaunch it, right, But then
- 9:50Speaker 3: you hear it about fifty and Wayne.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you think about that one?
- 9:55Speaker 3: I think it'll be good, But I mean, I think
- 9:57Speaker 3: Wayne old Wayne, but I think it'll be good, you know.
- 10:00Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love Fifth, you know, but.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I don't know what I feel like. That's a weird
- 10:04Speaker 2: one for me, but the people definitely it's not. I'm
- 10:06Speaker 2: not using my personal judgment on the person. The people wanted.
- 10:09Speaker 2: We're gonna try to We're gonna try to do it.
- 10:11Speaker 2: I just I just for some reason they and put
- 10:13Speaker 2: fifty and Wayne in the same version. I don't even
- 10:15Speaker 2: know how that happened.
- 10:16Speaker 1: But you know, it's like I tell everybody, it's it's
- 10:19Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how many songs. Sometimes it don't matter
- 10:21Speaker 1: the catalog and me and you spoke about this. It's
- 10:23Speaker 1: the songs that you pick and what you do. Because
- 10:26Speaker 1: you know, we've heard people with we thought I always
- 10:28Speaker 1: go back to the Locks dip set. Everybody thought Dipset
- 10:31Speaker 1: was gonna wash the Locks because they had so many
- 10:33Speaker 1: records that play on radio, so many cultural records.
- 10:36Speaker 4: But that night, the Locks took it serious.
- 10:38Speaker 3: That's what makes Fifty and Wayne so interesting because they
- 10:40Speaker 3: can both do their commercial joints right right, but then
- 10:43Speaker 3: when they get into their mixtape bags, both of them
- 10:45Speaker 3: with freestyles and everything else, it's just like, WHOA, that
- 10:48Speaker 3: could be a special one.
- 10:51Speaker 2: I agree with that. I see where you're going with it.
- 10:53Speaker 2: I think for me, maybe it's like because when you
- 10:56Speaker 2: see fifty, he's like, he's not a small Wayne is
- 11:01Speaker 2: like a small you know what I'm saying, Like, but
- 11:05Speaker 2: powerful with music and powerful with his success. So I
- 11:09Speaker 2: don't know, like, maybe it's the visual that's thrown me
- 11:11Speaker 2: off with that one. Like maybe I got to sit
- 11:13Speaker 2: down and see both songs, but you know, fifty, you
- 11:16Speaker 2: guys actually asking what we need to do.
- 11:18Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. I seen him there.
- 11:19Speaker 1: He was like, I don't think Swiss di I like him.
- 11:21Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I don't think that this call
- 11:23Speaker 1: it was this. I was like those Swiss actually said
- 11:24Speaker 1: hot to you when I spoke to earlier. That's in fact,
- 11:26Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I don't think there's no problem.
- 11:28Speaker 1: What about you know one time we were all talking
- 11:31Speaker 1: and I heard behind the scenes that I was gonna
- 11:33Speaker 1: get done. I don't know if the conversation stopped Nicki
- 11:36Speaker 1: Minaj and Little Kim, we kept hearing that I think that.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Is that both have passed or I can't say.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I can't say it. Yeah, I can't say it.
- 11:45Speaker 4: It's still a possibility.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't say. Yeah. But just know
- 11:50Speaker 2: that if you're gonna wait this long for versus, if
- 11:52Speaker 2: we're gonna have you wait this long, it's gonna definitely
- 11:54Speaker 2: be worth it, worth the time. Like if anything people
- 11:58Speaker 2: know about me is like if I'm being quiet, like
- 12:00Speaker 2: things are happening right, And so I just felt that
- 12:03Speaker 2: once again that it was important for us to take
- 12:06Speaker 2: a break and actually organize what we have and actually
- 12:10Speaker 2: understand what we have, you know, because things were moving
- 12:13Speaker 2: so fast and you're just so caught up in a
- 12:15Speaker 2: matrix and it's all of the hype and you missing,
- 12:19Speaker 2: you leaving so much on the table, you missing so
- 12:21Speaker 2: many amazing opportunities to really monetize what you've built and
- 12:25Speaker 2: put your time into. Like, and I think it's healthy.
- 12:29Speaker 2: It's the same thing I did with no commissions, took
- 12:31Speaker 2: a time out. It's about to come back in twenty four.
- 12:35Speaker 2: I actually know what I have, Actually, you know, know
- 12:38Speaker 2: the flaws that was in there and then give people
- 12:40Speaker 2: a better product, you know, and not just something that
- 12:43Speaker 2: was like for COVID. You know what I'm saying, because
- 12:46Speaker 2: it went happened way long after COVID Versus as well,
- 12:48Speaker 2: but like a lot of people connected with COVID. And
- 12:50Speaker 2: then we got the documentary that we've been shooting with
- 12:53Speaker 2: lean Away since the first Versus doc. Yeah, so that's
- 12:56Speaker 2: that's you know, Gifted in Black. When people see that,
- 13:00Speaker 2: that that one's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna it's gonna
- 13:03Speaker 2: make people really think different about us, you know what
- 13:07Speaker 2: I'm saying, because like, wow, this is all happening like
- 13:10Speaker 2: this cameras on, so you're getting to see the real artists,
- 13:13Speaker 2: You're getting to see the real fans. You're getting to
- 13:15Speaker 2: see people in their house getting dressed up, like think
- 13:19Speaker 2: like we peoples getting dressed up in their house to
- 13:21Speaker 2: go for a party in their house.
- 13:23Speaker 4: That like that.
- 13:27Speaker 2: That's like wow, like fully dressed, like going shopping, like
- 13:31Speaker 2: pulling out white.
- 13:32Speaker 3: So he was making nights of it that Joe's got
- 13:34Speaker 3: Eric Abat doing because that's my wife's two favorite artists.
- 13:37Speaker 5: You made a night of that, like you know this is.
- 13:39Speaker 2: I want to see part two of it. I want
- 13:40Speaker 2: to see part two of a lot of them that
- 13:43Speaker 2: didn't really have like that, the big stage, you know,
- 13:47Speaker 2: the people that wasn't in front of each other. I
- 13:49Speaker 2: want I want to bring I want to bring those
- 13:51Speaker 2: back for sure.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Oh now it would be the time to do that
- 13:52Speaker 3: because Jill and Erica on tourter. So yeah, yeah, you know,
- 13:56Speaker 3: I want to ask you to man, you know, rest
- 13:58Speaker 3: in peace. X. You know you've had time to gree
- 14:01Speaker 3: But I also I wonder, like, when you go away
- 14:03Speaker 3: on vacation and it's been it's been a little while, now,
- 14:06Speaker 3: what are your thoughts about the Good Brother Act?
- 14:09Speaker 4: What do you.
- 14:10Speaker 2: I just don't, you know, honestly, it don't even feel
- 14:14Speaker 2: like he's gone, you know what I'm saying. It just
- 14:16Speaker 2: feel like he's just way on his just somewhere chilling.
- 14:22Speaker 2: And then you know, like the anniversary of coming around,
- 14:25Speaker 2: I'm just like, WHOA. I speak to his fiancee, I'm like, WHOA.
- 14:30Speaker 2: I speak to his son, I'm like WHOA. I see
- 14:32Speaker 2: a video or I scroll through my phone and see
- 14:34Speaker 2: pictures and it just it hit me, you know. But
- 14:38Speaker 2: the thing, the thing that makes me feel easy about
- 14:41Speaker 2: it is because he came to me, you know, you know,
- 14:44Speaker 2: like I've seen him and in my dream he came
- 14:47Speaker 2: to me and this was like super quick too, and
- 14:51Speaker 2: he let me know he was good. And I'm not
- 14:53Speaker 2: big into like I'm the person that'd be like, he
- 14:55Speaker 2: ain't come to see you like talking. I've seen, I
- 14:59Speaker 2: can have felt to him. I can smell like I
- 15:02Speaker 2: just couldn't hear him talk.
- 15:03Speaker 5: He looked young. You look young.
- 15:05Speaker 2: He didn't look he didn't look young. He looked he
- 15:07Speaker 2: looked like how he looked like he looked like from
- 15:09Speaker 2: when I last seen him. And that's who was making
- 15:12Speaker 2: it feel super real. I was like, yo, he was
- 15:14Speaker 2: watching south Park in the dream, he was sitting in
- 15:18Speaker 2: front of the TV watching south Park. I came and
- 15:20Speaker 2: like grabbed him and we used to always wrestle and
- 15:22Speaker 2: just play around like little brothers. And so I wrestled
- 15:26Speaker 2: him to the floor and were wrestling and he's laughing,
- 15:28Speaker 2: and but I can't hear him. I just cant see him, like, ah,
- 15:31Speaker 2: you crazy. Like then he got up and he like
- 15:34Speaker 2: grabbed both of my arms and he just looked at
- 15:36Speaker 2: me and was like like like I'm good. And once
- 15:40Speaker 2: I seen that, you know, like my energy started changing.
- 15:43Speaker 2: I was like, Okay. Then I seen an X in
- 15:46Speaker 2: the sky. I got my crib and I come outside.
- 15:48Speaker 2: It was like an excellent sky. I took a picture
- 15:50Speaker 2: of him, posted it too, and I was like, oh,
- 15:52Speaker 2: this is crazy.
- 15:53Speaker 4: Is somebody cliff diving? Is somebody cliff diving?
- 15:56Speaker 1: But I know from Switzer's crib Cliff died like you
- 15:59Speaker 1: can see people cliff diving off the side of the mountain.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Was one of those people.
- 16:03Speaker 2: This was real. This was like an X in the sky,
- 16:06Speaker 2: like a plane that it was super high up in
- 16:09Speaker 2: the sky. But shit, like ever since then, it just
- 16:13Speaker 2: felt I just felt good because I couldn't hear Stop Drop.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Every time every time they play Stop Dropt, it would
- 16:20Speaker 2: like break me down.
- 16:21Speaker 5: Why that record in particular, I have no.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Idea I could listen to any other song. For some reason,
- 16:26Speaker 2: Stop Drop would like take me out. And I was like, oh,
- 16:29Speaker 2: this is crazy. But then after after I seen him
- 16:32Speaker 2: in the dream that went away, and that's how it yazed.
- 16:36Speaker 3: I was like, okay, oh I've had those. I've had
- 16:39Speaker 3: you know, people pass away and you see them in
- 16:40Speaker 3: a dream. That's why I like to see that. I
- 16:42Speaker 3: feel the same way you feel. You see that, you'd
- 16:43Speaker 3: be like, okay, I know they're good.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Yeah. It was deep though, because it never happened with
- 16:49Speaker 2: you know, my grandparents, like people that I love. I
- 16:51Speaker 2: never I never seen that. You know. That was like
- 16:56Speaker 2: it was like we're sitting right here now, I remember,
- 16:59Speaker 2: like very do.
- 17:00Speaker 3: You feel like the X story has been told like
- 17:03Speaker 3: the way it needs to, Like is they're a period
- 17:05Speaker 3: on that or man?
- 17:07Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that the story has been
- 17:09Speaker 2: I think the story has been chopped up, you know,
- 17:12Speaker 2: like X told me his story, like I know, his real, real, real,
- 17:16Speaker 2: real story, and I just think that like when the
- 17:19Speaker 2: time is right, you know, it should be done like proper,
- 17:22Speaker 2: like you know, like how you would see the NWA story,
- 17:29Speaker 2: how you would see a POT story. You know what
- 17:31Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like X story needs to be delivered like
- 17:34Speaker 2: that because it's for real, for real, you know, like
- 17:37Speaker 2: 's been through like so much and just seeing his story,
- 17:40Speaker 2: people gonna want to change their life and then people
- 17:42Speaker 2: gonna want to be inspired to do certain things. And
- 17:45Speaker 2: like it's educational. You know, X was like very book smart,
- 17:49Speaker 2: like you know, like like Mike Tyson. Like I remember
- 17:52Speaker 2: I went to Mike tyson house and he just had
- 17:53Speaker 2: like all these books and he was just turning pages
- 17:56Speaker 2: and just reciting pages. I don't know if that's a
- 17:58Speaker 2: jail thing. But X and Mike Tyson like they're like
- 18:03Speaker 2: they're very smart and books and books that you would
- 18:05Speaker 2: have never even known they was reading. I'm like, how
- 18:07Speaker 2: do you know about He's like, nah, I read that
- 18:08Speaker 2: whole book three times? Like what Like X was like that,
- 18:12Speaker 2: you know, like very prolific, and he just was a
- 18:16Speaker 2: good person, Like he had like this rough aura about him,
- 18:20Speaker 2: but like he was more like he was like a
- 18:22Speaker 2: teddy bear, you know what I'm saying. Like the bark
- 18:25Speaker 2: was his musical energy. But he'd sit there watch South Park,
- 18:29Speaker 2: play remote control cars, planes, planes, play video games. Like
- 18:34Speaker 2: he just he just wanted to be a kid.
- 18:36Speaker 1: What about musically? You know, I know you got to
- 18:38Speaker 1: I'm sure folders and folders of ex music.
- 18:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got you know, I revisited a
- 18:45Speaker 2: lot of a lot of people want me to put
- 18:46Speaker 2: out ex music, But I just think that like I
- 18:50Speaker 2: want to organ I want I think we should organize
- 18:52Speaker 2: the music that he already put out. You know, like
- 18:55Speaker 2: organize that, revisit that and put that out in a
- 18:58Speaker 2: proper way, package that right for the people that they
- 19:01Speaker 2: can have that experience and then get into like the
- 19:05Speaker 2: other songs and different things that he got laying around
- 19:09Speaker 2: and yeah, and just let it happen organically, you know
- 19:14Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But it's held get he get dark.
- 19:21Speaker 3: I'm sitting there thinking like, there's no way you could
- 19:23Speaker 3: do a DMX biopic because who's going to play DMX.
- 19:26Speaker 3: I've never met a human like DMX in my life
- 19:29Speaker 3: that was a different type of spirit man, like he
- 19:32Speaker 3: was a one of one.
- 19:34Speaker 2: My brother that Michael was the brother that played DMX.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Oh that passed away, Michael Michael Williams. Williams he could
- 19:44Speaker 2: play DMX, which is why we had him in the
- 19:46Speaker 2: tribute and you know, rest in peace to him too.
- 19:49Speaker 2: That was crazy to me, you know, because we were
- 19:53Speaker 2: thinking about doing a play and he was going to
- 19:56Speaker 2: play DMX and this is why he was doing the tribune.
- 19:59Speaker 2: And I remember him saying like, Yo, I'm doing this
- 20:01Speaker 2: tribute because me and DMX is more like than you think.
- 20:05Speaker 2: And I was like, nah, I can feel your energy
- 20:07Speaker 2: like it felt like I was looking at dog like
- 20:09Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like that was. I don't think
- 20:11Speaker 2: nobody can get closer than he was energy wise to
- 20:15Speaker 2: what I've seen.
- 20:16Speaker 1: X Now what producers out there you feeling now you're
- 20:20Speaker 1: listening to what producers you think got it?
- 20:23Speaker 2: I like where metro Booming is doing a lot. I
- 20:27Speaker 2: like what hip boy is doing. I like that he's
- 20:29Speaker 2: taking the risks, you know, not only messing with his genre,
- 20:33Speaker 2: but like going and doing these volumes with knives. It's
- 20:39Speaker 2: a lot of producers. I like, you know what I'm saying,
- 20:41Speaker 2: But I do urge the producers to like work on
- 20:46Speaker 2: their identity what you mean, meaning like you know, without
- 20:51Speaker 2: a tag on some of the songs, you won't know
- 20:53Speaker 2: what producers is, which you see what I'm saying. So
- 20:56Speaker 2: like that's just something that carried myself, tim for real
- 21:03Speaker 2: Dre Like you can just blaze yay, like you can
- 21:06Speaker 2: hear those beats with no tags on it and no
- 21:09Speaker 2: premo what it is, right, And so like a lot
- 21:11Speaker 2: of people like they get on me with like my snare.
- 21:14Speaker 2: I'm tired of the snare as well, but it's just
- 21:16Speaker 2: a part of the signature and those are certain things
- 21:19Speaker 2: that you're doing that, people know like, oh that's a
- 21:21Speaker 2: Swiss beat, whether I'm doing an AE lib on it
- 21:24Speaker 2: or not, right, And I just feel that, you know,
- 21:26Speaker 2: your identity is going to carry you way longer than
- 21:30Speaker 2: just having a hot song for the for the moment
- 21:33Speaker 2: on that artist and when that artist decided to move
- 21:35Speaker 2: away or whatever, Like it's just going to be harder
- 21:37Speaker 2: for you to climb that hill if you don't have
- 21:40Speaker 2: that signature sound and the person that's sitting right over
- 21:43Speaker 2: here can loop it up real quick and just do
- 21:47Speaker 2: you know, And I don't know, I just I just
- 21:50Speaker 2: I just think that's why I said, I like what
- 21:51Speaker 2: Metro is doing. I like I like what hip Boy's doing.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Must have got a sound, you know like this. There
- 21:58Speaker 2: are producers with time, but I just want more producers
- 22:02Speaker 2: to come with they sound and step in the front,
- 22:04Speaker 2: like and be the superstars themselves, because a lot of
- 22:08Speaker 2: producers don't you don't even know what they look like.
- 22:10Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I think that's dangerous.
- 22:12Speaker 5: Really, why do you think it's dangerous?
- 22:15Speaker 2: Because like I just feel they're leaving a lot on
- 22:19Speaker 2: the table, you know, like like you as a producer
- 22:23Speaker 2: is an artists as well, right, so like how Metro
- 22:26Speaker 2: can do it? He just did that Coachella and be
- 22:28Speaker 2: a headline Like as a producer, like why would you
- 22:31Speaker 2: leave all of that on the table? Like you should
- 22:33Speaker 2: be the superstars as well, and you don't even have
- 22:35Speaker 2: to rap. And I just feel like they're leaving a
- 22:38Speaker 2: lot of money on the table by just you can't
- 22:41Speaker 2: identify what they look like. You can identify they sound
- 22:45Speaker 2: by a tag, but I guess I guess people just
- 22:48Speaker 2: want to play the background. That's cool too.
- 22:50Speaker 3: That's interesting though, because like when you look at people
- 22:52Speaker 3: who could be on the mount rushmore of producers, it's
- 22:55Speaker 3: definitely people who step to the forefront.
- 22:57Speaker 4: Of course on purpose, you know facts, it's it.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Was one of the best best things I ever did
- 23:03Speaker 2: was move to the front. Like a lot of producers
- 23:06Speaker 2: that I came up with, they feel like they don't
- 23:08Speaker 2: get they just do. But they was also being quiet.
- 23:10Speaker 2: They wasn't really fighting for it, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:12Speaker 2: So like once again, like when the person didn't know
- 23:14Speaker 2: what you look like, they don't know what you don't
- 23:16Speaker 2: got no tag, you don't have no identity, It's gonna
- 23:19Speaker 2: feel like you're not getting represented. You're not representing yourself right.
- 23:25Speaker 3: You know you think you being a DJ helped with
- 23:27Speaker 3: that too, for sure, because I remember hearing Jay say
- 23:30Speaker 3: that one time I forgot what he was talking about.
- 23:31Speaker 5: He was like, jail get the I mean Swiss will
- 23:33Speaker 5: get the dancing on you and scratching and turning around.
- 23:36Speaker 2: You know, look, I I used to stand on tables
- 23:41Speaker 2: to sell my beats. You know what I'm saying, You
- 23:43Speaker 2: go in that room because people airs are so numb
- 23:46Speaker 2: when you go to the labels, they so jaded. Everybody
- 23:48Speaker 2: so numb, everybody looking for the next they don't even
- 23:51Speaker 2: know what they're looking for. So you gotta like show
- 23:53Speaker 2: them like they missing out on something. Like I even
- 23:55Speaker 2: had to come up with a strategy to be like, yo,
- 23:59Speaker 2: I did this for such and such, but I'm gonna
- 24:01Speaker 2: just let you hear it. And then that person end
- 24:04Speaker 2: up wanting to take that beat. They gonna they pay
- 24:06Speaker 2: more of the whole thing. So I had to like
- 24:09Speaker 2: use different strategies because artists don't really know what they
- 24:13Speaker 2: like most of the times, you know what I'm saying. Like,
- 24:15Speaker 2: as a producer, they want to look for to their
- 24:18Speaker 2: front overhead, they want to look looking around the room.
- 24:21Speaker 2: They want to feel the energy. So I was like, oh,
- 24:22Speaker 2: I got to bring the energy. So I'm breaking down,
- 24:24Speaker 2: like I'm making the choruses for them. I'm giving them
- 24:27Speaker 2: the flow. I'm telling them what it could be and
- 24:30Speaker 2: making them visualize. They think about being at the party,
- 24:32Speaker 2: they thinking about a chick that they got waiting outside
- 24:35Speaker 2: or something like that. So my job was to make
- 24:37Speaker 2: it easy for you to just plug and play right.
- 24:39Speaker 2: So like most of my music had no samples, had
- 24:42Speaker 2: the chorus and already, so all the artists had to
- 24:44Speaker 2: do is fill in the blanks. Like That's how it
- 24:45Speaker 2: really got so much work done because I was doing
- 24:49Speaker 2: the work for the artists.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Now you mentioned Jay, Are you and Jay back in
- 24:54Speaker 1: the lab working at all? Because people, you know, people
- 24:56Speaker 1: have been saying that you've got a bonus track that
- 24:57Speaker 1: you haven't released yet.
- 24:59Speaker 4: But I don't know why, but people are assuming it's
- 25:01Speaker 4: a whole record.
- 25:02Speaker 2: They're always assuming this whole hole is very, very rich
- 25:05Speaker 2: and is enjoying his family and is enjoying his time.
- 25:10Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna bother hole right now. I'm not
- 25:12Speaker 2: even you got to read the room, you know what
- 25:14Speaker 2: I'm saying, the man is the richest he ever been
- 25:16Speaker 2: in his life today. Let him enjoy the vibe that
- 25:20Speaker 2: he's on right now. He's gonna get hungry and I'm
- 25:24Speaker 2: gonna be available. And that's everything is just timing with Jay,
- 25:27Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He's just a massive amount
- 25:29Speaker 2: like he wanted every day, Like he'll call me and
- 25:32Speaker 2: just give me fifty bars. I'm like, what we're doing
- 25:33Speaker 2: with that? Nah, just finished working out? Like, okay, what
- 25:38Speaker 2: we're doing with that? It's like I don't know yet.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Like his rolodex of music, he's very very prepared, so
- 25:43Speaker 2: he just call a rap for you. Yeah, just like yo,
- 25:46Speaker 2: check it out. Boom boom, boom boom. I'm just sitting
- 25:49Speaker 2: there like, man, we're dropping this tomorrow. What we're doing?
- 25:55Speaker 2: He's like, Nah, I just finished working I just I
- 25:58Speaker 2: got got something off my chest. I was like, okay,
- 26:00Speaker 2: it's something more off your chest. That's it sounds like
- 26:02Speaker 2: what the people need.
- 26:04Speaker 5: Why y'all get so close? I don't think people talk
- 26:06Speaker 5: about that.
- 26:08Speaker 2: I know Jay since I was seventeen, you know. I
- 26:11Speaker 2: met him through my uncle D in his office, and
- 26:16Speaker 2: that same night we went and did a four or
- 26:21Speaker 2: five songs if I Should die coming to Age two,
- 26:25Speaker 2: uh Jigger, and another a couple of other songs that
- 26:29Speaker 2: never came out. Y'all did all those in the same night,
- 26:31Speaker 2: same night? Wow? Yeah. I had a cassette I had
- 26:33Speaker 2: to concept with like fifty beats on it, and he
- 26:37Speaker 2: played it and it was just like and then d
- 26:39Speaker 2: was like, Yo, Jay say he wanted to go in
- 26:41Speaker 2: to the studios the night. I'm like, what tonight. He's like, yeah,
- 26:44Speaker 2: he vibed me with a couple of songs off off
- 26:47Speaker 2: the cassette and we never stopped. Like since then, he's
- 26:51Speaker 2: just been since then.
- 26:53Speaker 5: Those are classic. That's when he must have been working
- 26:55Speaker 5: on a volume two then Knock Life.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was working on volume two.
- 27:00Speaker 4: Wow.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Another record that people don't talk about is the It's
- 27:03Speaker 3: one of my favorite hip hop records ever. Why We
- 27:05Speaker 3: Die with x J and Buster.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
- 27:10Speaker 5: That shit is nuts. Like, people don't talk about that record.
- 27:13Speaker 2: No, he got a lot of gems people don't talk about.
- 27:16Speaker 2: He got a lot of gems him and Nas too.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Now I's got gems that people don't. You got to
- 27:20Speaker 2: dig into crates and be like, yo, like you know,
- 27:23Speaker 2: remember he did that, Like, nah.
- 27:25Speaker 5: You remember the why We Die session or dope, y'all
- 27:27Speaker 5: didn't do that together.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Now, I don't think we did that one together because
- 27:32Speaker 2: Jay was moving quick, like you know, he was like
- 27:34Speaker 2: officially the first person that seen not write music because
- 27:39Speaker 2: I was like it was bugging me out at first
- 27:40Speaker 2: because I was just like, how is he doing this
- 27:43Speaker 2: so fast? Like he just how is he writing like this?
- 27:47Speaker 2: Then when I seen him in the studio, like he
- 27:49Speaker 2: didn't have no page out, he didn't have nothing. He
- 27:52Speaker 2: just was put that back. I'm like, he's writing right now.
- 27:57Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he don't use paper. I'm like, that's wild,
- 28:01Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I heard Big didn't write,
- 28:04Speaker 2: and then I started seeing Kiss like not use paper,
- 28:07Speaker 2: and I just was buzzing, like how do you write
- 28:09Speaker 2: without using paper? You know what I'm saying? Like Jay's
- 28:12Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame for writing and never wrote lyrics.
- 28:15Speaker 5: That's crazy.
- 28:16Speaker 4: Kiss on right now.
- 28:19Speaker 2: He used to Kiss, Stop Kiss, stop writing on paper
- 28:23Speaker 2: a long time ago, like years and like during the
- 28:27Speaker 2: rough Rider main ever, Kiss wasn't using.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Paper, So Kiss just coming here the same thing. Just
- 28:32Speaker 1: let me hear the beat and just go.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Mmm, he's just walking around. You just see him sweatsuit on,
- 28:36Speaker 2: just walking around doing some like just with his edge,
- 28:39Speaker 2: just walking around. Pull it back, pull it back. I'm
- 28:43Speaker 2: ready and they ain't just going.
- 28:45Speaker 5: That's something he must have learned that from Big then.
- 28:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I know Big was the first
- 28:50Speaker 2: one that they was. I never seen Big do it,
- 28:53Speaker 2: but they was always talking about. I remember him coming
- 28:56Speaker 2: from the studio and be like, yo, Big, and use
- 28:58Speaker 2: no paper. He he's an alien, you know, like, That's
- 29:03Speaker 2: one person I wish I would have worked with. Was
- 29:05Speaker 2: was Big. I seen him in Atlanta. We was at
- 29:07Speaker 2: Atlanta Live and I remember he had the lamb rover,
- 29:11Speaker 2: like a burgundy lamb rover. And then I spoke De
- 29:15Speaker 2: introduced me to him and he was like, man like,
- 29:18Speaker 2: one day we're going to get up like you know
- 29:20Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I want to do something with
- 29:22Speaker 2: your beat. Shorty. He kept saying, Shorty, shorty, and I
- 29:25Speaker 2: was like, all right, let's do it, let's do it,
- 29:27Speaker 2: And I was I've never seen him again.
- 29:29Speaker 5: That's crazy.
- 29:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I always want you know, you talk about you
- 29:32Speaker 3: talk about whole x kiss. What do you do with
- 29:35Speaker 3: all this unreleased music. You just say, you have two
- 29:37Speaker 3: songs from Jay that y'all never put out, Like what
- 29:38Speaker 3: do you do? You just got to sitting somewhere.
- 29:40Speaker 2: But he got those early songs. He has those early songs.
- 29:45Speaker 2: I don't really have too much Hole playing around like that.
- 29:47Speaker 5: Like that.
- 29:48Speaker 2: He's pretty purposeful. Like if he's doing something, it's actually
- 29:51Speaker 2: it's going out. It's going out for something. It's not
- 29:53Speaker 2: like Guru probably got it. Guru got it, Probably got
- 29:57Speaker 2: the stash for Hole. I don't have the stash for Hole.
- 30:00Speaker 2: But I do have a lot a lot of unreleased music,
- 30:04Speaker 2: and it comes in handy sometimes because sometimes you need
- 30:07Speaker 2: that artist and like, you know what, I got this
- 30:10Speaker 2: right here and like all right, let me change, just
- 30:12Speaker 2: let me change that. The work is done right, So
- 30:16Speaker 2: you definitely need to have that archive. And when you
- 30:19Speaker 2: hear them versus conversations, what's your thoughts? Like, I know
- 30:21Speaker 2: we had Jim appear a couple of days ago when
- 30:24Speaker 2: he was talking about different verses, right, so we was
- 30:27Speaker 2: talking about Drake and Jay, and you know.
- 30:31Speaker 4: I think he was he was saying.
- 30:32Speaker 5: That Drake is the greatest rapper of all time.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Right now, now, you being a guy that's been through
- 30:38Speaker 1: so many sessions, so many decades.
- 30:40Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? On which part greatest
- 30:44Speaker 4: all time?
- 30:45Speaker 2: I think I think like everybody's the greatest and at
- 30:50Speaker 2: a particular point, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
- 30:52Speaker 2: think Drake fulfilled a level for this generation that was great.
- 31:00Speaker 2: What I'm saying like, change the game strategically, did it
- 31:05Speaker 2: in a way that was financially amazing for himself. You know.
- 31:10Speaker 2: You know it's good when other people everybody's trying to
- 31:13Speaker 2: sound like you, Like that's you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 31:15Speaker 2: that's that's pretty hard, Like just like everybody trying to
- 31:18Speaker 2: sound like Jay at one point. You know what I'm saying,
- 31:20Speaker 2: that's a great moment for a hole. And I think,
- 31:24Speaker 2: like when you mentioned greatest of all time, it's like
- 31:26Speaker 2: a lot of things that you gotta factor in, you
- 31:28Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Because like if I'm thinking like
- 31:31Speaker 2: the greatest of all times, it's like, how do how
- 31:35Speaker 2: do you judge that? Like do you judge that from
- 31:38Speaker 2: the business moves? Do you judge that from how many
- 31:41Speaker 2: records sold? Do you judge that from the consistency? Do
- 31:44Speaker 2: you judge that from the longevity Because like if we're
- 31:48Speaker 2: going to talk about that, I definitely gotta go to LLL.
- 31:52Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like l L, like like
- 31:55Speaker 2: that man is I've never seen a run like that.
- 31:58Speaker 5: He callined the time.
- 32:03Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like like l L. It's been
- 32:06Speaker 2: doing it since Rock the Bells and still getting new
- 32:09Speaker 2: money today, you knowee what I'm saying, and still look
- 32:13Speaker 2: great today as well. You know, and lyrically when when
- 32:17Speaker 2: when he was competing, he was he was he was
- 32:21Speaker 2: coming with smoke for sure, made songs for the women,
- 32:24Speaker 2: made songs for the streets May Maine, anthems for the stadiums.
- 32:28Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like Mama gonna knock you out,
- 32:30Speaker 2: and not to go to nostalgic on different things. But
- 32:34Speaker 2: it's just like when I'm when I'm thinking of like
- 32:36Speaker 2: graded some thinking like of a lot of things, I'm
- 32:38Speaker 2: not thinking about like who's hot like at the particular moment,
- 32:42Speaker 2: because I don't think that that's fair because we're saying
- 32:44Speaker 2: all time correct, you know what I'm saying, And so
- 32:47Speaker 2: like Jim might Jim could feel like that because of
- 32:50Speaker 2: how he's basing it. You know what I'm saying, and
- 32:55Speaker 2: I think it's a couple of people. I don't think
- 32:57Speaker 2: it's one person.
- 32:58Speaker 4: That's top five. Then my top five live take bigg
- 33:02Speaker 4: and pock out annex.
- 33:04Speaker 5: Damn against your top five. You can't do that.
- 33:08Speaker 3: You got me to because everybody.
- 33:12Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I'm bad with the top fives.
- 33:14Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm bad with with
- 33:16Speaker 2: the top fives because I say the top five and
- 33:19Speaker 2: getting a comedy like damn, I need to go do
- 33:22Speaker 2: this back and people take that time. They take it
- 33:25Speaker 2: serious serious, you know what I'm saying.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Sometimes he's you know, these lists a bullshit because you
- 33:30Speaker 1: never know who's giving a list. You never know what
- 33:32Speaker 1: the top list is on. But somebody like yourself who's
- 33:35Speaker 1: produced for a majority of this artist.
- 33:38Speaker 3: And you've produced half of the time that hip hop
- 33:41Speaker 3: has been around the other half he was a fan.
- 33:44Speaker 3: That's why something you said does not hit me, because
- 33:45Speaker 3: it's like that is true about somebody like an l
- 33:48Speaker 3: Because we say greatest of all time.
- 33:49Speaker 5: The key word is time time, so we got fifty
- 33:52Speaker 5: years of hip hop. That's why I love Kendrick. You know,
- 33:54Speaker 5: Salute the Drake.
- 33:55Speaker 3: I can't put them in that yet because I feel
- 33:58Speaker 3: like it hasn't been enough time, like what eleven years,
- 34:01Speaker 3: twelve years?
- 34:02Speaker 4: But we said with with Drake, right, Drake, when do
- 34:04Speaker 4: you drop that album? What somebody said the other day
- 34:06Speaker 4: with two thousand and eight.
- 34:08Speaker 5: Or so far gone?
- 34:09Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 34:10Speaker 2: That's a good run, man, that's a great run. That's
- 34:12Speaker 2: a good run because like for me, if you, if you,
- 34:15Speaker 2: if you ain't did ten summers, you ain't even in
- 34:18Speaker 2: the conversation like that's how out the gate, like just
- 34:22Speaker 2: the enter the gates. You need ten summers, right, But
- 34:26Speaker 2: for me, I feel that like to really really really
- 34:31Speaker 2: be that person, you gotta be hot and cold at
- 34:33Speaker 2: least five times, meaning you have to come off your
- 34:37Speaker 2: run and reinvent yourself again. Come off that run, reinvent
- 34:42Speaker 2: yourself again. Come off that run, reinvent yourself again. Now
- 34:47Speaker 2: you in deep waters as far as like those great
- 34:50Speaker 2: words and all times things are concerned, because you know,
- 34:55Speaker 2: everybody can move when it's when it's pretty outside. But
- 34:58Speaker 2: when that snowstorm comes, do you got the right code on?
- 35:01Speaker 2: Can you survive that? Did you bring your gloves? And
- 35:05Speaker 2: I watch Jay do that, I watch Dog do that.
- 35:07Speaker 2: I watch so many artists, and you guys watch so
- 35:10Speaker 2: many artists come back and be like, oh, and then
- 35:14Speaker 2: we watch artists that can't come back. That was that
- 35:17Speaker 2: you couldn't even you couldn't even walk next to them,
- 35:21Speaker 2: and now you don't even care to talk about them,
- 35:23Speaker 2: you understand. So coming up from that, that's impressive to me,
- 35:27Speaker 2: Like when you can be the biggest and then go
- 35:33Speaker 2: through a little bit and then come back out bigger,
- 35:36Speaker 2: go through a little bit, come back out bigger, Like
- 35:39Speaker 2: that means that you really really hear, like you really
- 35:41Speaker 2: who you say you are, and the people feel that,
- 35:44Speaker 2: and the people gonna judge that. But it's it's going
- 35:47Speaker 2: to take you being creative to have to do that,
- 35:50Speaker 2: you understand. And that's why I do so many different things.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Like the conversation in twenty twenty three about me is
- 35:56Speaker 2: not the same as ninety eight. That would be a failure.
- 36:00Speaker 5: Camel racing. The camera comes to Swiss, Swiss on camel.
- 36:04Speaker 4: Let's talk about that.
- 36:05Speaker 1: How the hell did you get into camel racing, Like
- 36:09Speaker 1: where did that come up?
- 36:09Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna get into camel racing.
- 36:11Speaker 2: It's my camera racing. This is a little prototype of
- 36:13Speaker 2: the jacket right here too now just for me, Like
- 36:17Speaker 2: traveling to the Middle East, particularly Saudi, I would always
- 36:21Speaker 2: see the races, and I was bugging because I never
- 36:24Speaker 2: seen I never knew camels ran like I think we
- 36:28Speaker 2: look at the camera like you're thinking the camels slow.
- 36:32Speaker 2: And so we was up late just watching the camel
- 36:35Speaker 2: racers like I'm like yo, and everybody that I was
- 36:39Speaker 2: around like they had a team, and I was just like, damn,
- 36:45Speaker 2: I want to, I want to I want to actually
- 36:46Speaker 2: do this. And then they was like, you know, if
- 36:48Speaker 2: you did this, you'd be the first American to ever
- 36:50Speaker 2: own the camel racing team. And once I heard that,
- 36:52Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm in. But it wasn't like
- 36:55Speaker 2: that easy. It took me like a year and a
- 36:57Speaker 2: half to get certified with the Federation and go through
- 37:01Speaker 2: like the process. I started off with eight camels, I
- 37:05Speaker 2: got about forty eight. Now we got about like twenty
- 37:09Speaker 2: twenty two trophies, which is huge, Like you know, we
- 37:11Speaker 2: want in Kuwait, we want in Abu Dhabi, we won
- 37:14Speaker 2: in oh Man, we won in bakh Range, we won
- 37:18Speaker 2: a lot even in Saudi. And it's a traveling team
- 37:21Speaker 2: and a lot of people like laughed at me a
- 37:24Speaker 2: little bit because like, yeah, what this was doing with camels,
- 37:27Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, like it's probably gonna be like
- 37:29Speaker 2: the biggest thing I ever did is get involved with
- 37:33Speaker 2: that and make the federation global. Is that it's serious? Wow,
- 37:39Speaker 2: it's serious. Serious, Like like the prize that the last
- 37:43Speaker 2: the last race was like the prize is like ninety
- 37:46Speaker 2: million what yeah, it's like not not not dollars. So
- 37:50Speaker 2: so it was probably about almost thirty million US. Yeah,
- 37:55Speaker 2: which is did y'all win? We came fifth place, We
- 37:59Speaker 2: got we got a little we got we got a
- 38:00Speaker 2: little check, you know what I'm saying, Like we got
- 38:02Speaker 2: a little check. But just being in that particular, the
- 38:05Speaker 2: first Allula race, just being in that race, that's like
- 38:09Speaker 2: that's serious for the brand because it's just it's the
- 38:14Speaker 2: hardest race of getting this is all of the top
- 38:16Speaker 2: top top dogs, you know what I'm saying, and like
- 38:19Speaker 2: and the people that own the team like they're megabades,
- 38:22Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, This is not no joke,
- 38:24Speaker 2: Like they got thousands of camels that I don't got
- 38:27Speaker 2: thousands of camels, And so the being that race was
- 38:30Speaker 2: like it was super special and yeah, Saudi Bronx.
- 38:37Speaker 3: You know you always seem content, like you don't knock
- 38:40Speaker 3: in town of contents, right word, But you don't seem
- 38:42Speaker 3: like pressed. You seem very comfortable with who you are
- 38:45Speaker 3: and what you've done. You don't see that in a
- 38:47Speaker 3: lot of people.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Like I don't know, people do
- 38:54Speaker 2: be seeing heavy, but I think that's that's that's because
- 38:57Speaker 2: of the people's surroundings as well. Like the way I
- 38:59Speaker 2: live now is I live on vacation and I go
- 39:02Speaker 2: to work dope, right, Like I changed my home mindset
- 39:06Speaker 2: of just living at work every day. You know what
- 39:10Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like no escape, Like they train us to work, work, work,
- 39:13Speaker 2: and then we got to kind of find a vacation.
- 39:16Speaker 2: And then I seen like a lot of my older
- 39:18Speaker 2: pears want to start living at seventy and I just like, yo,
- 39:22Speaker 2: Like he's dressing like my kids at seventy. He got
- 39:26Speaker 2: a twenty year old girlfriend at seventy. He just bought
- 39:30Speaker 2: a brand new house at seventy, Like you trying to
- 39:32Speaker 2: live at seventy. I want to live now, you know
- 39:35Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like we go so hard and I've
- 39:38Speaker 2: been doing this successfully since I was seventeen. I'm forty
- 39:41Speaker 2: four now, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
- 39:43Speaker 2: when we're gonna start living like when I'm sixty, you know,
- 39:47Speaker 2: like life is too short and I just I just
- 39:49Speaker 2: choose to just do different things. And I used to
- 39:52Speaker 2: have like a lot of people's weight on my back,
- 39:55Speaker 2: you know, I to love you know what I'm saying.
- 39:57Speaker 2: But it's just like you gotta let people do their
- 40:00Speaker 2: thing as well, because what happened is it is just
- 40:04Speaker 2: nobody will grow if they could just call you every day. Yo,
- 40:08Speaker 2: it's only five thousand, it's only this, it's only that. Okay,
- 40:11Speaker 2: it's only that. Then why you're asking for it, right,
- 40:13Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. So I had to like
- 40:15Speaker 2: start saying no, the people had to just move the
- 40:18Speaker 2: chessboard around because like I was living for everybody else,
- 40:21Speaker 2: like I wasn't living for myself, you know what I'm saying.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Like I was giving people in the street more time
- 40:27Speaker 2: than my kids. That's and that's retarded. I can't we
- 40:29Speaker 2: can't do that, you know what I'm saying. So now
- 40:32Speaker 2: my time is balanced more with my family and then
- 40:34Speaker 2: when I see my friends, I love them all. It's
- 40:36Speaker 2: it's cool, but before it was it was the opposite way.
- 40:39Speaker 2: And we're trained to be with the homies and were
- 40:43Speaker 2: missing all the games and all this stuff because like
- 40:45Speaker 2: you know, even with nine said and and run Away,
- 40:49Speaker 2: how he was explaining that he wasn't the best with Destiny.
- 40:53Speaker 2: I feel like that with my oldest son. I'm making
- 40:55Speaker 2: up that time today as we speak. You see what
- 40:57Speaker 2: I'm saying, because like I thought it because I was
- 40:59Speaker 2: paying and he got all the fresh disk, the birthday
- 41:02Speaker 2: parties out of control, and then you sit down and
- 41:06Speaker 2: you'll know that none of that mattered. It's like, yeah,
- 41:08Speaker 2: but you know the time when I studied for my play. Yeah,
- 41:14Speaker 2: you sent me a gift to congratulate, but I would
- 41:16Speaker 2: rather you sit in that seat that hit that hit different,
- 41:20Speaker 2: Oh you know what I'm saying. And so all that,
- 41:23Speaker 2: all the all the materialistic things the kids don't care about,
- 41:27Speaker 2: especially like they live with you like you. They not
- 41:30Speaker 2: in the Bronx. They're not growing up in the hood
- 41:32Speaker 2: like we did. You know what I'm saying. Like they
- 41:34Speaker 2: they on them planes with us, they on them trips
- 41:36Speaker 2: and boats and normal it's normal to the right, So
- 41:39Speaker 2: like you can't pay your kids off with What you
- 41:42Speaker 2: can do is pay them with quality time. You know
- 41:45Speaker 2: what I'm saying playing a video game. My hands is
- 41:48Speaker 2: hurting with Egypt, you know, going to kJ taking them
- 41:51Speaker 2: to his track meets and early in the morning, just
- 41:56Speaker 2: making the time.
- 41:57Speaker 4: That's the most difficult.
- 41:58Speaker 1: I mean, it was funny earlier my wife was hosting,
- 42:01Speaker 1: so my daughter facetimed me and it's something about dad's love. Right,
- 42:05Speaker 1: So my wife didn't make the game yesterday, and I
- 42:08Speaker 1: didn't make the game yesterday. She gave my wife like, okay,
- 42:11Speaker 1: Mom's okay, but Dad, how come you didn't make the game?
- 42:13Speaker 1: Like she was really into it. You heard of today, right,
- 42:16Speaker 1: and she pitched. This is the first time she pitched.
- 42:18Speaker 1: And she was like, and you didn't make the game.
- 42:20Speaker 1: So you know, it gives you a funny feeling, you
- 42:22Speaker 1: know what I mean. But today they got games. You know,
- 42:24Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right at that right at that game.
- 42:27Speaker 1: I won't miss it for the world. Is Egypt still producing?
- 42:31Speaker 2: Yeah, Egypt is turning into something something different. He's turning
- 42:34Speaker 2: into something His mother put a lot of time into him,
- 42:38Speaker 2: Like I've really seen her passing her gift, Like specifically
- 42:44Speaker 2: I think he might be giving her a run for
- 42:46Speaker 2: money at this point. Really yes, because he play every
- 42:50Speaker 2: day and so like he practiced probably about six o'clock,
- 42:54Speaker 2: and I just everything just gets quiet, and then you
- 42:56Speaker 2: hear like an opera. Now you hear like you hear
- 43:00Speaker 2: like some every day. Like where he's playing on the piano.
- 43:03Speaker 2: It's just blowing my mind. Sometimes I go upstairs and
- 43:05Speaker 2: looking like is that him or is that her? And
- 43:07Speaker 2: it's like him. Wow. So now he's taking songs that
- 43:12Speaker 2: that he made, that that he learned, and now he's
- 43:14Speaker 2: flipping them because he's like, I'm tired of playing like
- 43:17Speaker 2: all these songs the same way. So he'll make up.
- 43:20Speaker 2: He'll make it harder for himself to do it. And
- 43:23Speaker 2: I think he on the he came out here on
- 43:25Speaker 2: the Jennifer he did Jennifer Hudson Show. He comes out today. Actually,
- 43:30Speaker 2: how was he he was twelve? Twelve? Wow, it's happening
- 43:33Speaker 2: too fast?
- 43:34Speaker 4: And how happening too fast?
- 43:36Speaker 5: I feel.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Second you seen my part of twelve?
- 43:42Speaker 1: Growing fast? I was gonna ask how was the marriage life?
- 43:44Speaker 1: Because you on the roll, wife's on the road, kids
- 43:47Speaker 1: have activities.
- 43:47Speaker 4: How is that?
- 43:49Speaker 2: It's great? I think that you know, like for me,
- 43:53Speaker 2: like having like a balance is key and having having
- 43:57Speaker 2: stability is key, and like people don't understand, like stability
- 44:02Speaker 2: is really the key, you un I'm saying, Like my
- 44:04Speaker 2: wife organizes the program. I maybe would be a good
- 44:08Speaker 2: follow because she's sitting with MO and they coming up
- 44:12Speaker 2: with the schedule and I have nothing to do with it.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Same way, you know what I'm saying. She's like, Yo,
- 44:17Speaker 2: this that boom. Oh you know this is the doctor's appointment. Okay, boom,
- 44:22Speaker 2: this is this? That's that like, and my wife is
- 44:26Speaker 2: on it every like she gets a kick out of
- 44:28Speaker 2: Like I think that's the white side, Like you know
- 44:30Speaker 2: what I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like her
- 44:33Speaker 2: white side is organized, like she don't play, and it
- 44:37Speaker 2: made me be a better parent, you know what I'm saying,
- 44:40Speaker 2: made me be a better husband. Like we got rules
- 44:42Speaker 2: that we can't stay away for longer than two weeks.
- 44:45Speaker 2: You stay away after two weeks, like you come back home.
- 44:48Speaker 2: It's like meeting a new person, and I don't we
- 44:51Speaker 2: don't like that feeling, you know what I'm saying. So
- 44:53Speaker 2: like if she's on tour from anywhere, two weeks is
- 44:57Speaker 2: the max Max Max, and you really want to come
- 44:59Speaker 2: back like in a week and half. You don't even
- 45:01Speaker 2: want to stretch the whole two weeks. And so you know,
- 45:04Speaker 2: the key thing is like making time, you know, because
- 45:07Speaker 2: I was explaining to somebody, yes, sir, I was like, look,
- 45:09Speaker 2: we can make the time if I called y'all any
- 45:12Speaker 2: one of y'all today, was like, and you got your
- 45:16Speaker 2: daughter's game, And I'm like, yo, Envy, I got fifty million.
- 45:21Speaker 2: I need you to come here right now. I got
- 45:23Speaker 2: fifty million for you. No way, Yeah, you're right to
- 45:27Speaker 2: get to that fifty million and you're going to explain
- 45:29Speaker 2: to your daughter, lady, how you you know this? This
- 45:32Speaker 2: help everybody, our kids and our family. It's priceless, right,
- 45:38Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like I had to,
- 45:39Speaker 2: like I had to turn down a lot of money
- 45:42Speaker 2: and still do to be in front of them. We
- 45:45Speaker 2: don't get that time back, you know, And it's like
- 45:49Speaker 2: it's priceless.
- 45:50Speaker 3: And I just want to say, the black Side can
- 45:51Speaker 3: be organized too. I can already see Twitter thumbs getting crazy.
- 45:55Speaker 2: You know what, The black side is definitely organized, saying
- 46:00Speaker 2: Monique is always black. You know what I'm saying out
- 46:04Speaker 2: the yeah, eighteen years. I've been moving with me for
- 46:07Speaker 2: eighteen years. Last week make eighteen years. Wow, the unbelievable person.
- 46:13Speaker 5: Good people.
- 46:13Speaker 4: My album is out right now, The EP is out
- 46:15Speaker 4: right now.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Hip Hop fifty Volume two.
- 46:17Speaker 4: We appreciate you for joining us.
- 46:19Speaker 5: Brother, they gonna get next. You know who They're gonna
- 46:21Speaker 5: get next to do it. I didn't even realize this
- 46:22Speaker 5: was gonna be a series. I'm sitting there like, I
- 46:24Speaker 5: remember the premier one. They had that fire raps ay
- 46:27Speaker 5: and rimy record on that. Bro.
- 46:28Speaker 2: I think hip Boy might be next boy. I think
- 46:31Speaker 2: hip Boy and next. I think Tim might do one.
- 46:34Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's gonna be a decent little run. Okay,
- 46:37Speaker 2: but I'm not stopping like this is like for me,
- 46:40Speaker 2: I was like if I'm gonna come outside, like I'm
- 46:42Speaker 2: not gonna just do the Hip Hop fiftyth and just
- 46:43Speaker 2: go quiet. I got like four more projects. That's that's
- 46:46Speaker 2: that's lined up.
- 46:47Speaker 5: You got Scarlet.
- 46:49Speaker 2: I wasn't even counting that. Yeah, wow, Yeah, I wasn't
- 46:52Speaker 2: even counting that.
- 46:53Speaker 5: Who is it?
- 46:54Speaker 2: It's just personal projects that I'm putting together, like yeah,
- 46:58Speaker 2: but I want to keep them in short, just like
- 47:01Speaker 2: this I don't people like, Yo, this should have been
- 47:03Speaker 2: thirteen songs. Y'all know, y'all not listening to thirteen songs.
- 47:06Speaker 2: I'm not listening to thirteen of my damn song, so
- 47:08Speaker 2: I know you're not listening to thirty time. I think
- 47:10Speaker 2: six seven is a good number because the attention that
- 47:15Speaker 2: you're gonna lose all those records, you know, it's just like, yeah,
- 47:18Speaker 2: what's the focus on this right now? The focus is
- 47:21Speaker 2: say less. I think the video come out today with
- 47:24Speaker 2: Dirk and Boogie, and then we shoot the video with
- 47:29Speaker 2: Scarlett Bennie and Kiss, and then we might do Runaway,
- 47:33Speaker 2: or we might do the Wayne record. But by that
- 47:36Speaker 2: time we already in the middle of the ocean, right
- 47:39Speaker 2: So thirteen records for what I'm not doing those no more?
- 47:45Speaker 5: Is it still hall few to clear samples from Jay?
- 47:47Speaker 2: It's like nah, you know nah Jay. Jay actually loved
- 47:50Speaker 2: the record, Like I said it to him. He's like, Yo,
- 47:52Speaker 2: this is crazy. Wayne is out of control?
- 47:54Speaker 4: Did Jay do a verse of it? I don't know
- 47:56Speaker 4: where that kissed the sample.
- 47:57Speaker 2: I know where it came from. I think I kind
- 47:59Speaker 2: of started that because I put featuring Wayne and jay
- 48:03Speaker 2: z Z. Everybody started to saying Wayne and jay Z Wayne,
- 48:06Speaker 2: And I'm like, jay Z's on the cars, but I
- 48:09Speaker 2: sampled him on the cars. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 48:11Speaker 2: let's be clear. Do I want jay to do a
- 48:14Speaker 2: verse on it if he's up to it. But like
- 48:17Speaker 2: I said, you know that that man's enjoying his life.
- 48:20Speaker 2: I'm not calling him about no record right now. Maybe
- 48:23Speaker 2: next week, next week.
- 48:25Speaker 4: Well, the Swiss Beats, it's the Breakfast Club.
- 48:28Speaker 2: Good Morning Zone. Hold one second, we.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Got more with Swiss Beats. When we come back, don't move.
- 48:35Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club on BET. All right, we got
- 48:38Speaker 1: more with Swiss Beats. It's the Breakfast Club on BT.
- 48:41Speaker 1: Welcome back, we are to Breakfast Club. We got more
- 48:44Speaker 1: with Swiss Beats. Keep in lock, we got more with
- 48:47Speaker 1: Swiss Beats.
- 48:47Speaker 4: When we come back.
- 48:48Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club on be et. That was the
- 48:51Speaker 1: breakfast That was Swiss Beats on the Breakfast Club. We
- 48:54Speaker 1: got don Key the day up next, don't move, it's
- 48:56Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club on BT.
- 48:57Speaker 2: Coat