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1-27-26 Hour 1 - Broncos player exit interviews/Sticking up for Sean/Nuggets stuck in Memphis · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm a Bronco. Yeah, I'm a Bronco.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a buck Eye and I'm a Bronco. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: drafted here, but I do firmly believe that I'm a Bronco.
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  Speaker 2: So it starts with the ownership. They get us everything
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  Speaker 2: that we need to be successful here. It starts with
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  Speaker 2: like the hyperbaric chamber. Like I was able to get
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  Speaker 2: back on the practice field two point five months, it's
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  Speaker 2: because they gave me everything I needed. Like there was
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  Speaker 2: things I would ask mister Pinner and he would get
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  Speaker 2: it to us. He would get it to me.
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  Speaker 1: Then.
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  Speaker 2: Like my man coach, Sean Payton, I love him to death.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite coaches ever. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: great process with everyone. It's just been a great time
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  Speaker 2: here in my short time. And I think that I'll
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  Speaker 2: be here hopefully I will. And I think I'm a
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  Speaker 2: Bronco for life.
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  Speaker 3: JK.
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  Speaker 4: Dobbins yesterday, as everybody is kind of doing the exit interviews,
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  Speaker 4: on the way to the off season.
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  Speaker 3: Holy crap. If you needed a recruiting video for other
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  Speaker 3: free agents to be that are shopping around for a team,
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  Speaker 3: like come to Denver, come to the Broncos. Just recute JK.
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  Speaker 3: Dobbins right there about what he gets here that he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't gotten elsewhere.
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  Speaker 4: It's I'm being serious, like you ask any one of
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  Speaker 4: these guys on the way out, because Garrett Bowles had
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  Speaker 4: an answer like that too, that we'll get to in
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  Speaker 4: a bit.
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  Speaker 3: But they are.
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  Speaker 4: So happy to be here in a way that it
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  Speaker 4: hasn't been in a long long time.
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  Speaker 3: Hey man. The culture of a workplace where if you
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  Speaker 3: can go in and you're confident that they're in it
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  Speaker 3: for your best interest. Yeah, because what a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these people in business look at my Who am I
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  Speaker 3: to say this? I don't run a business, but the
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  Speaker 3: cheat code is pretty simple. If you can make your
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  Speaker 3: employees feel invested in the process and in the goal.
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  Speaker 3: If the employee, if the employee has something to gain, right,
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  Speaker 3: not just money, not just financial gain, but something to
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  Speaker 3: gain in the process, do you know how much better
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  Speaker 3: your company, your business will.
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  Speaker 4: Be for sure when it's not like you need to
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  Speaker 4: have some sort of ownership stake within it. But it's
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  Speaker 4: like everybody's kind of on the same page and wants
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  Speaker 4: to help each other. It's it's it's a pretty powerful thing.
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  Speaker 3: And JK.
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  Speaker 4: Dobbins, for whatever you think of JK and I think
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  Speaker 4: he's an effective running back, I have my own sort
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  Speaker 4: of questions on what you do with him moving forward,
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  Speaker 4: And it's just because of health and it feels like
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  Speaker 4: that's been his entire career.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, let's be honest. You can't put all your
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  Speaker 3: chips on JK. Dobbins because of his health history. You
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  Speaker 3: have to have options. I would I would have no offense.
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  Speaker 4: I would have no problem in bringing him back, but
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  Speaker 4: you need to bring him back along with somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Well, R J. Harvey's coming back. He's
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  Speaker 3: not going anywhere after that.
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  Speaker 4: I still think you can't be in a position where
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  Speaker 4: it's Tyler Biday after that, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, after that, then it's it's up in the air.
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  Speaker 3: You have to get it. Sounds like we're headed to
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  Speaker 3: the same goal here today. The number one goal for me,
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  Speaker 3: I said it after the loss. Reconfigure a run game,
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  Speaker 3: a legitimate run game that you can lean on when
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  Speaker 3: you need it desperately. It's for me.
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  Speaker 4: It's twofold and we'll start here because this is now
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  Speaker 4: the offseason show.
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  Speaker 3: They have spent before you go there. NFL Network replayed
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  Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game last night. Yeah, there was nothing
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  Speaker 3: else on television that I was interested in, so I
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  Speaker 3: watched the AFC Championship game because I was at the
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  Speaker 3: game and I didn't get a full glimpse of the television.
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  Speaker 3: Holy crap with their plays that boom the very first play,
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  Speaker 3: and I hate to relive this, and I apologize, but
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  Speaker 3: I apologize. They shank a punt. You don't even know
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  Speaker 3: where the hell it goes out of bounds because you
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  Speaker 3: cannot see the yard markers.
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  Speaker 4: You could when I was watching on tv VIC, they
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  Speaker 4: just had the end zone cam behind the punter. Didn't
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  Speaker 4: know where it went, but I saw it come off
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  Speaker 4: as foot.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, shanked. I don't know where it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's terrible. You haven't been able to do Jack
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  Speaker 3: squat the second half, but here you go. They shank
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  Speaker 3: a punt. You have it at the thirty three. You're
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  Speaker 3: already in field goal range. Technically, yep, you're already in
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  Speaker 3: field goal range. You're already tying the game, and the
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  Speaker 3: very first play after the shank punt is a run
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  Speaker 3: by R. J. Harvey where the entire right side of
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line gets blown up, the center gets blown up,
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  Speaker 3: the right guargets blown up, everybody blown up. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: it's a loss of four on the first play after
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  Speaker 3: the punt, and they barely get any progress to put
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  Speaker 3: him in field goal range because that in those conditions,
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  Speaker 3: that was a long field goal in those.
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  Speaker 4: Gay Yes, I mean it was ended up being because
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  Speaker 4: that was the blocked one right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Was it a forty five yarder? Yeah? Forty five Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that needed to be a thirty five yarder minimum minimum.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just you had to find a way to move forward.
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  Speaker 3: Just just one first down there, one first down after
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  Speaker 3: getting the ball to thirty three yard line, and you
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  Speaker 3: tie the game and you can't run the ball well.
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  Speaker 4: And here's here becomes kind of what we're discussing. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm not the only one who thinks this. One of
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos offensive linemens said the same thing. We'll get
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  Speaker 4: to it in a second. There is just a very
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  Speaker 4: stark contrast between I mean, some of the teams like,
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  Speaker 4: especially when you watch the NFC Championship game, the amount
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  Speaker 4: of different things they could have gone to. And since
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton got here, him and George Peyton have had
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  Speaker 4: a very distinct plan on how to build the team.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's clear Vic. Year one was what we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna fortify the trenches. They went out, They signed McGlinchey
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  Speaker 4: and Ben Powers and Zach Allen. They got the defensive
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  Speaker 4: line and offensive line all put together as it should be.
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  Speaker 4: Year two was got to find a quarterback that was
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  Speaker 4: bo Nicks along with fortifying the defense. So you get Hufonga,
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  Speaker 4: and you get Dray green Law, and you're bringing guys
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  Speaker 4: like Malcolm Roach and you do all that. This year
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  Speaker 4: has to be about offense and about playmakers. It has to.
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  Speaker 4: And you said in the run game, absolutely you need
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  Speaker 4: one in the past Game two you have to cause
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  Speaker 4: I like Courtland Sutton. I think is a good white out.
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  Speaker 4: He's a good high point guy. Had a bad last
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  Speaker 4: couple of games. But I need somebody that puts the
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  Speaker 4: fear of God.
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  Speaker 3: You need you need somebody who you can lean on,
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  Speaker 3: even if they decide to shade to cover him, even
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  Speaker 3: if they double him yeah, I mean, what do you
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  Speaker 3: think they didn't Seattle? But mean, what do you think
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  Speaker 3: happened in those situations? What do you think anybody who
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  Speaker 3: plays against Poquin Nakula? What do they do?
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  Speaker 4: Every defensive coordinator, while both defensive coordinators in that NFC
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  Speaker 4: Championship game, said two things. We got to stop JSN
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  Speaker 4: or we got to stop Pokin Nakula and nobody could.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody could because they're too good. Exactly now it takes Listen, man,
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  Speaker 3: we're all over the place this morning. But I apologize
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  Speaker 3: because my head's been all over the place. I am
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  Speaker 3: reading some posts from people that actually suggest because Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Plumbus mentioned it yesterday, there are people out there among
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  Speaker 3: us in Broncos Country listeners even who are suggesting somehow,
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  Speaker 3: some way that Sean Payton has failed at his job.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and I need to use save it because I
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  Speaker 3: spent twenty minutes on this all round, will I will
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  Speaker 3: full time. I need you people to stick around for
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  Speaker 3: when we get back to this, because if you believe
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  Speaker 3: that you are and I hate to use this, I
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  Speaker 3: say this with all due respect, you're clueless.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I spent twenty minutes in the appetizer doing the
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  Speaker 4: same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you are clueless, and I want you to stick
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  Speaker 3: around to hear me tell you how clueless you are.
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  Speaker 4: In the meantime, here's somebody that agrees with us in
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  Speaker 4: our assessment of the offense. It is Garrett Bowles.
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  Speaker 5: People want to come to Denver. I mean, I'll be
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  Speaker 5: shocked to see how many free agencies want to come here.
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  Speaker 5: We got a young team, we got a quarterback, we
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  Speaker 5: got the best O line football. I don't care what
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  Speaker 5: anyone says we do. That's just reality. Numbers don't lie,
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  Speaker 5: stats don't lie. You guys can look that up. That's
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  Speaker 5: just reality. When you have a dominant line or a dominant.
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  Speaker 3: Defensive line, stop just stop Brookwick. You got to be
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  Speaker 3: able to run the ball before you say that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't disagree with Garrett. Listen, I love you,
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  Speaker 3: but you cannot run the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have mine. So I have my own questions
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  Speaker 4: about the offensive line. Like they're good.
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  Speaker 3: A dominant O line is one that can run the ball.
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  Speaker 4: There's also I think they're number one in all these
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  Speaker 4: pass blocking grades according to PFF. I think a lot
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  Speaker 4: of that has to do with Bonicks being pretty elusive.
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  Speaker 3: In my pocket, yeah, stats, stats, Yeah, I don't care
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  Speaker 3: about stats. I care about having the ball on the
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  Speaker 3: thirty three yard line in an AFC championship game. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a backup quarterback and moving
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  Speaker 3: people backwards and moving the line of scrimmage. Yes, I agree,
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  Speaker 3: they can't do that. They haven't done it all year.
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  Speaker 3: And I invite an offensive lineman to tell me, well,
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  Speaker 3: the reason is. Please. If you think it's coaching, let
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  Speaker 3: me know. If you think it's place selection, let me know.
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  Speaker 3: But all I can tell you is what I see, Brett,
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  Speaker 3: And what I see is a four yard loss on
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  Speaker 3: first and ten when you have the ball at the
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  Speaker 3: thirty three yard line. That's what I see. Continue from there, Nelly.
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  Speaker 5: We got the best old line football. I don't care
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  Speaker 5: what anyone says we do. That's just reality. Numbers don't lie,
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  Speaker 5: Stats don't lie. You guys can look that up. That's
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  Speaker 5: just reality. When you have a dominant O line and
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  Speaker 5: a dominant defensive line, people want to come here. When
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  Speaker 5: you got a phenomenal quarterback and bow people don't give
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  Speaker 5: him the credit what he had this season that he
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  Speaker 5: had it. We have a great running back room. We
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  Speaker 5: got great receivers. Obviously, we need some key players to
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  Speaker 5: come in and do what they need to do. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, getting points on the scoreboard. We had a
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  Speaker 5: phenomenal defense. We have everything we need. We just need
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  Speaker 5: a couple more playmakers and Sky's limit for this team.
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  Speaker 4: Right there, that last part, We just need a couple
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  Speaker 4: more playmakers and Sky's limit for this team. I actually
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  Speaker 4: think he's correct on that. I think he's right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: if you just get a couple of more guys, I'm
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  Speaker 4: thinking one in the past game, one in the run game.
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  Speaker 4: I think it would make a world of difference for
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  Speaker 4: this off It got way too reliant on bow knicks
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  Speaker 4: making plays by himself. Yes, late in that season, and.
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  Speaker 3: He may have masked a lot of those inefficiencies. I
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  Speaker 3: think he did, and those inadequacies. I think he masked
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that and we come to find out
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  Speaker 3: he did. He did because having a quarterback who can
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  Speaker 3: use his wheels even in choppy situations really helps you.
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  Speaker 3: I would start with the run game. You seem to
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  Speaker 3: think a passing game is necessary. You know, you have
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  Speaker 3: to have a receiver. I don't disagree with you, but
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  Speaker 3: the number one need this offseason and it's been the
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  Speaker 3: number one need all season. To be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: I know JK Dobbins made him look good. He did,
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  Speaker 3: he made him look good. But JK. Dobbins gets hurt
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  Speaker 3: a lot, so you better make sure you have a
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  Speaker 3: candidate who can fill that void well.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I know, like the free agency pool is
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  Speaker 4: not the sexiest thing for running back to go up
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  Speaker 4: and find one of those guys, because there's usually a
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  Speaker 4: reason for it. You know, they're the miles on those tires.
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  Speaker 4: They pick up a lot quicker than other positions. I
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  Speaker 4: do think there's gonna be a couple of guys available
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  Speaker 4: that if you just want insurance policies. Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 4: Vick bringing in. Let's say they bring back JK. Dobbins,
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  Speaker 4: they have R. J. Harvey, and then they signed somebody
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  Speaker 4: like a David Montgomery or something like that. In free agency.
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  Speaker 4: Peyton runs three backs. He uses three running backs all
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  Speaker 4: the time, and it doesn't really matter who it could
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  Speaker 4: be Jeleel, it could be Tyler Biday, Like, He'll run
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  Speaker 4: three different guys out there. Uh, but it would also
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  Speaker 4: provide a hell of a lot of insurance for JK. Dobbins,
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  Speaker 4: who I think is a good back who's just injured
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  Speaker 4: a lot like if JK. Dobbins was healthy, he I
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  Speaker 4: think he's probably seen as one of the better backs
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  Speaker 4: in the league. Not the best, but one of the
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  Speaker 4: better ones.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. If JK. Dobbins and Bo Nicks
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  Speaker 3: are healthy, the Denver Broncs are preparing for a Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl right now. If Dobbins and who who'd you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, obviously they're preparing for al. But this is football,
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  Speaker 3: and them are the breaks. And teams are going to
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  Speaker 3: have injuries, and some you can overcome, some you can't.
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  Speaker 3: You can. You can overcome a backup receiver, you can
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  Speaker 3: overcome a backup tackle. You can overcome those. Try overcoming
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  Speaker 3: a lost quarterback, Yeah, who started every game, who left
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  Speaker 3: after the last play of a divisional playoff game. Try that.
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  Speaker 4: I know that Kyle Shanahan gets a lot of credit
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  Speaker 4: for being able to just make kind of anybody work
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  Speaker 4: who's under center. But we're talking the AFC Championship game
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  Speaker 4: is a little bit different story than you know, a
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  Speaker 4: game in October A little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see my chance yesterday? I talked about it
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  Speaker 3: on this show. Chase Daniel, who I know knows Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton very well played for him. Yeah, he broke down
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  Speaker 3: a play the fumble play and broke it down pretty accurately,
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  Speaker 3: I thought. And he put all the blame on Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Bedey for night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, squeezing through that hole.
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  Speaker 3: Yet later in the day, he released another social media
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  Speaker 3: video saying he was wrong, that it was not the
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  Speaker 3: fault of the running back there, But he never explained
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  Speaker 3: why he was wrong, where he was wrong, who told
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  Speaker 3: him he was wrong? Now, what do you think happened?
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you, what do you think happened there?
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  Speaker 4: Sean probably saw it, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And told him no. But who made the mistake? If
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  Speaker 3: that's the case, because you saw the play we all
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  Speaker 3: did right. It looked like it was set up for
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  Speaker 3: a screen and Bedey could not find the angle. He
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  Speaker 3: could not hit the right angle to get out there. Yeah, otherwise,
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  Speaker 3: because if he gets out there, and I've detailed it
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  Speaker 3: on my Twitter feed, he's got thirty yards of green
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  Speaker 3: in front of him, it's a thirty yard gain minimum
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  Speaker 3: thirty yard game and could not escape the pocket because
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  Speaker 3: he was caught in the wash. So if it's not
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  Speaker 3: his fault, whose is it is?
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  Speaker 4: It just Stidham's for not just taking the sack.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm talking about the play falling apart taking the
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  Speaker 3: sack is also, yes, he should have away taking the set.
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  Speaker 3: You just say, though, vict that the defense made a
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  Speaker 3: good play, that they just dominated. But the defense made
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  Speaker 3: a good play because somebody on the offense made a mistake. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the defense made a good play because they they got
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  Speaker 3: to to stit him. But if if, if but Day
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  Speaker 3: gets out there, it's then the defense looks stupid.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who's that who that would be on
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  Speaker 4: if it's not on him.
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  Speaker 3: And he didn't say it though, Well he didn't say.
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  Speaker 3: He just said I was wrong, to which that's not
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  Speaker 3: good enough for me. If somebody told me, seriously, if
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  Speaker 3: somebody told you you know you're wrong, well tell tell
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  Speaker 3: us why you're wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Where is this wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's strange.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, mosiell join us shortly. He's trying to get to
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  Speaker 4: the rink right now. I guess it's a mess over
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  Speaker 4: in Canada.
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  Speaker 3: Uh see in Ottawa? Where are they?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Ottawa, Ottawa.
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  Speaker 3: They use the metric system. They don't clearly there's some.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of following the traveling adventures of Katie
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  Speaker 4: Wenjy yesterday and not what they needed to do to
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  Speaker 4: get back. So we can detail that in a second.
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  Speaker 4: But I want to get to the Sean Payton stuff
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  Speaker 4: that you're talking about, because you're so right about this.
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  Speaker 4: And keep in mind, it's an ass ticket Tuesday. Another
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  Speaker 3: Are you anti Italian again? Today? I mean, because I've
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  Speaker 3: term for Italians? Is the keyword.
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  Speaker 4: I don't make the keywords. I just I'm Ron. Really,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I'm Ron Burgundy. I just read them.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Well, somebody at this outfit is anti Italian clearly.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Wait, is that really like an Italian slur?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Bob Bob? He didn't say Bob, I said Bob. I
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: thought you said mob No bob oh, Like I said,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: like the name bob oh. I thought you said mob Oh.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: We're good.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I'm very confused on how that is. Anyway, Hey, get.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: This dirty Bob, I forgot about it. Oh could have
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: been Bob in your first and last name to three
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: zo three five four O nine to five. He's your
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: chance to win tickets to the Avs in the Red
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Wings on Monday. Also check out ten dollars Tuesdays at
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Papa Murphy's. Any large pizzas just ten bucks order at
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Papa Murphy's dot com.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: But the keyword is Bob.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: So I saw the same thing you did, Vic, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, there's so much in life that I feel
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: like I'm down the middle lawn and there's just people
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: on polar opposite side screaming, And Sean Peyton feels like
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: another example, Like I can understand.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I think we all acknowledge. Sean Payton can seem unpalatable
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: at times.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Well, he's easy to blame because of his demeanor.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Well, Nelly just played Kurt Signetic.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: No no no, no, no, no, give me Kurt Signetic.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Pretty simple. I win.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: If they lose thirty to ten to Miami in the
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: National Championship Game, then that's because yes, hey google this.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: When he's got.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: The the personality that he does, and then he messes
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: up as he did by not taking the points it
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: makes it easy. But when you think about where the
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: team was when he got here to where they are
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: now being three points, well, I guess whatever three points
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: away from tying, but a touchdown away from going to
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: the super Bowl. At the backup quarterback, I don't know
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: if you're looking at the forest through the trees, how
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: any conclusion you can come to is anything other than
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: he's done a phenomenal job.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Here is the dilemma that I think Broncos fans trying
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: to wrap their heads around this. You need an arrogant
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: coach to get more arrogance, infuse more arrogance into your
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: team that was dead, I think, so okay, so that's healthy.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: You need someone that's somewhat condescending at times, that speaks
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: out of pocket at times. Yeah, that can fulfill inspiration
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: at times. You need that. Now, does it get you
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: in trouble? Yeah? Does the ego but get the best
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: of you on fourth and one when you should take
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the field goal. Yeah yeah. But by and large, without
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: that ego, without that mindset, the Broncos are nowhere near
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: where they are right now. And I don't want to.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I just it amazes me. Again, I agree with Tyler Palumbus,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: who tweeted out something very simple. He said, listen, so
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: many people are trying to run Sean Payton out of
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: town and he doesn't get it. And I said the
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: same thing. He helped resuscitate a franchise that for ten
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: years could do nothing right, and he did. He did
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: it quickly. He did it with the highest salary going
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: to a quarterback who doesn't play for a team. He
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: did it. However way you want to say it, he
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: did it. And for people to suggest that he's not
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the right coach, you guys are crazy. Can he do
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: some things differently? Of course. Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: It's funny you said resuscitate the team, but it was
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: more than that. He didn't just take a team that
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: wasn't you know, like Dion resuscitated the the football program
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: in CU. They became relevant when they previously weren't. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: don't win it, but they didn't have the success from
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: a wins losses standpoint to go along with it. He's
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: done that in like two short years with a quarterback
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: that everybody thought that they were crazy for taking a
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: twelfth overall, he was a six quarterback off the board.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Within two years, he had that team in the AFC
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Championship game. They made back to back playoff appearances. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I know what the issue is here. The winning wasn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: enough for a lot of Broncos fans, and a lot
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: of times in football it's like this too. Uh. Look
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: at the Eagles, by the way, vic, I think it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: a pretty good example. Are Eagles fans happy with their
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: football team? They just won a Super Bowl a year ago,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: but their offense stunk. They won games with their offense stunk,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: and a lot of fans just can't accept that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Listen to me, Listen to me. Take it from those
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of us in this side the business. Most people on
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: this side of the business do not like Sean Payton.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Why because he's not very kind cordial. Yeah. So if
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: people on this side, and I'm one of those people
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: who think you're crazy, he's the best thing to ever
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: happen to this team. I can look past that stuff.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I don't need a coach to be nice to me.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I don't care about someone who's nice to me. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: don't care if he likes me. I don't care. Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I don't need a friend. I'm not gonna hold his
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: hand when when times are tough. I'm not gonna pick
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: up a phone and call him when I need. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: don't care, can you coach? Someone writes in on the
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: text line, I think most of the credits should go
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: to ownership in George Payton, those folks should not be
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: without credit. George Peyton has done a lot of great
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: moves and the ownership without them, you don't have this opportunity.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: But let me tell you right now, you're gonna have
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: the greatest owner in the world. If you don't hire
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: the right coach, you ain't going anywhere. No, you ain't
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: going anywhere.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: And I also think wrong. I mean, yes, ownership is
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: a very important aspect, all of this very important. But
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're not gonna give Sean Payton credit
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: for this, then what are we doing. What's the point
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of a head coach to you?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Then, Jeff writs in, there's a difference between nice and respectful.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: He's neither. I don't care, honestly, and I mean this.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Do I wish he were nicer at times? Do I
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: snicker with my fellow media brethrens you'll make his life easier?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It would make his life. Yes, Do we always say, gosh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: what a jerk thing to say? Do say yeah, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, at the end of
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the day, none of that matters. It really doesn't. The
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: here's where I'm going to.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Give him the benefit of the doubt, especially on offense.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think they've made the investments in the offensive
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: side yet like he would like to, because they had
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: other pressing needs. Well, I think I think I was
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: proven right on one thing, VIC about his lack of
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: commitment to the run game. I do think it's been
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: proven it's about personnel because he ran the ball with JK.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Dobbins and the second he left it disappeared.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of this is personnel stuff.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: You know what he did when he first got this job.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: He did exactly what you claimed he should do. He
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: took a job in the AFC West where he was
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: facing a pass happy quarterbacks, one of which was a
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: perennial Super Bowl quarterback. Yeah, you build your defense first,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: that's how you differentiate exactly you are going to be
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: better than Mahomes. So he decided to do what we
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: were talking It's why his offense has lacked. It's why
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: we're talking about this offseason focus on the offense. It's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: why we're here saying you need this, you need that
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: weapon because they spent their money, their time, their resources,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: their diligence on the defensive side of the football for
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: that reason. And without that defense, Broncos fans, they're not
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: in the position they're in right now. They're not in
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game. They're not.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: By the way, it's a total credit, you know hard
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: it has to be, and I don't know how many
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: coaches would do this. When you have an expertise and
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: you were the leader of a football team, you can
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: do whatever you want. He's got carte blanche within that organization.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: He could have said, screw it, I'm gonna be a
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: mad scientist and be all offense here.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: You could have taken every draft, every single sent the
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: free agency and been like, watch what I can do
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: with this.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: JA hey, hey, VJ. Screw off. I'm spending all this
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: money on give me a split end who can do
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: some funny things. I don't care end whatever, I don't care.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you need Zach Allen in the trenches.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I'm using that money elsewhere.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: It's a credit to him for being like, I recognize
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: what's best for the team and now, I think in
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: year three you're gonna have to see some real improvement
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: on offense from a consistency standpoint, Like, here's my FEARVIC
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: heading into next season if things are kind of like
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: status quo, if the team is largely the same and
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: look they will be and that's a good thing, having
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: consistency and not a lot of roster turnover if you
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: really think about it, which guys are left to sign
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: contracts to that you need? JFM is like the only one,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: right and that depends on if you want to do
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: it or not. The fear that I have is the
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: way that you won this year is gonna be really
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: hard to replicate next year. It's the same thing that
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: happened with Kansas City. Kansas City's record and one score
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: games last year late game heroics was amazing. This year
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: didn't work out the same because it's really hard to
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: do that two years in a row.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I think people, and listen, tell me if you're one
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of these people, I think you're confusing nice with effective.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: People want both. People want both. They want a nice
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: guy who's effective, a real easy going Gary Kubiak. Gary
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Kubiak was just a good dude, right took a lot
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to rile him up. He never talked down anybody. He
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: was never condescending toward anybody in the media. He would
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: answer questions respectfully, and he won a Super Bowl. Okay, fine,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Not everybody's like that. Not everybody's built that way. This
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: guy's not that. But I'm here to tell you, the
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: sooner you get over that bothering you, the better. It
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: doesn't bother me that he's mean to Luca. It doesn't
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: bother me. That mean to me or you, It doesn't
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: bother me.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: The thing that confuses me is it doesn't matter what
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: people on the outside think of him. Did you guys
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: hear what the players inside the lock?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Do you hear what JK. Dobbins said of him? Did
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: you hear? I mean the players love him because I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: think he understands. He goes to bat for them. They
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: get that, and that's all you really need. Yeah, listen,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: we all have misconceptions, misperceptions. At the end of the day, though, man,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: do you get the job done or not? How many
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: coaches could have waltzed in here, got rid of a
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: quarterback who you owe a lot of money to undertaken
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: that ridiculous cap hit that dead money, drafted a quarterback
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: of your choice, turned around, and in year number three,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: led that team to a number one seed and an
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: AFC title game. Did you fall short? Hell yeah? Did
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: it hurt? Hell ya? Did he make the wrong decision
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: on fourth and one? Hell yeah? All of that can
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: be true. But I could probably count on three fingers
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the amount of coaches who could pull that off. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: just by pulling that off, the fact that some of
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: you think that he's not the right guy, you're insane.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: By the way, reminder of the keyword for this hour
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: is Bob.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Bob.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: So I said everybody last name to three zero three
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: five four on nine two five.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Nelly, the first time he said everybody on the text
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: line agrees with me, you said mob. I think they
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: might have said mob because you said no, no, no, no,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go back forensics team.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Now, this is another like Dom Perry on where like
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: my dsun said mob, I didn't you that was an
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: anti Italian directive launched and me.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: It was Bob.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: But Nelly, you got jkqed up. Let's listen to this again.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Then, like my man coach Sean Payton, I love him
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to death, Like he's one of my favorite coaches ever.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: You tell me. By the way, I asked this question
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: out loud, how many head coaches in the league. If
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: you could trade up, trade straight up one for one,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: what'd you trade Sean Payton.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: For Kyle Shanahan. Maybe Sean McVay. I don't even know
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: if I do it. I mean, it depends every everybody's different.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But those are I'm talking about. Those are the coaches
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: in his class. Those are the coach This is what's funny.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Somebody said, if he's such, this isn't the appetizer, If
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: he's such an offensive genius, then why he doesn't only
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: have one Super Bowl? And I was like, I don't know.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Do you think Kyle Shanahan is a good offensive mind?
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have any There's a lot of great Tony
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Dunee had one. There's a lot of great coaches that
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: don't have Super Bowls, a lot. There's a lot riding
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: on that. Has he lost big games? Yeah, yeah, he has.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: He's been close. He's now one in three in championship games.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Did you know that he's won in three in championship games?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Well, one of them was that ridiculous Rams game.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, but he's gotten there. He understands how to build
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: a winning culture. He does. Somebody on the text line
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: four three one five VIC, it should bother you that
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Sean Pe paid people to hurt people. I think he's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: referring to Bountygate in New Orleans.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was that guy's named? Greg Williams?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Something Williams?
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two g's yeah, three gee's seven g's Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Now was that cool?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Was it on my watch here?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Did he pay a price? Did he pay a penalty
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: for that? Yeah? He got suspended? Correct an entire serieson year. Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what to tell you. If
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: you want to spend your time hiring ultra boys and
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: just altar boys, good luck, yeah, good luck winning. Let
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: me tell you something. Do you think that's a roster
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: of ultra boys? Do you think there's a Do you
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: think there are players on the team who are suspicious
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: in nature?
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I think you have seventy guys on a roster. You're
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: gonna have a couple of them that, yeah, aren't the
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: greatest people would be.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: My guest, just like your business. Yeah, look at our station,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: there's some bad people that work here.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I have no idea what Nelly does in his free time.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I am terrified of what's going on like in his
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: cross space.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: By the way, he said, he pulled the tape. Let's
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: listen here.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: The keyword for this hour is Bob.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you did you get Italian racist.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: The keyword for this hour is Bob yep.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I went, no, Hey, Nelly, Nelly, there is that clear, Nelly, Nelly.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: The keyword for all of you listening is supposed to
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: be Bob. But because this man hates the pies On
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: so much, hates him, he will do anything he can.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Let me try this again, because I had like there
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: was a there was a runway that I had to
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: it though, I said, sippy word is Bob?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: What you say Bob? And doing microphone Bob? All right now, Nelly,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: play what he said? Wait what he said?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: The keywords for this hour is Bob.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Say that to a microphone Bob. Okay. I I had
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: no there was like, uh, I was a second deck shot.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I was leaving the runway.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I was like gearing up the airplane.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: That's all it was. Uh. Vic is a hypocrite. I'm
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: sure he was trashing Peyton when he was in New
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Orleans with when Bountygate came out. Did I like Bountyegate?
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: No?
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: No, was I trashing Sean Payton? I said, he's their problem.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Was I happy when when the Broncos signed Sean Payton
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: as a coach? Recue the recuue the tape that day?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Hey guys, Hey guys, recout the tape. I was doing summersaults.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: You want to talk about being a hypocrite, did you?
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Guys?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Your best guess vic? Maybe they weren't paid for it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Do you think the Orange Crush defense was out there
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: to crack some skulls?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: You know, this whole violence thing paid players to I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: get it. There's a line that you crossed.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: You shouldn't be paying guys to try and hurt people,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: But they try and hurt people every time they.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Take the Yeah, I'm going I'm gonna speak softly into
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: this microphone for this. Whoever wrote that in about hurting people,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell I'm gonna give you a
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: little hint, And I want to ask you if you've
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: ever played football? First of all, have you ever played
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: football full uniform at any level? Not flag football, not
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: that trash, because that's I've played. That's not football. The
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: intent of football, especially if you're a defensive player, the
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: intent deep down is to hurt the person coming at you.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: You don't think whufong is trying to hurt somebody when.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: He hits them. Now, you may say there's a proper
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: way to do that. You may say, well, just bring
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the ball carrier to the ground. You may say all
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: of that, and it's nice, and you know it's nice.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Everybody's nice. But deep down, you want to knock the
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: living crap out of that person to the point where
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that person will not get back up and finish the game.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: That's football. Yeah. Now you may not understand it. You
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: may not welcome that. You may think, oh, he's he's
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: being dramatic. But I want all people who played football,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: especially on the defensive side, I want you to join
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: the show. Text Dan, call whatever. Tell me if that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: not what football really is. And it sounds barbaric, it
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: sounds savage, But if you've ever played the game, that's
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: what football is. What it is.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Three oh three, five, four nine two five shot Mazda
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  Speaker 4: text line, one price, one person, one hour back after this.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: The keyword for this hour is Bob. Like the name Bob.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Are you anti Italian again today?
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I mean I did say right afterwards, like the name Bob.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: There's some I don't know what it is about the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: way that I speak. Sometimes my d's sound like t's.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. Let me read some
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: of the texts here to support what I was saying
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: about Sean Payton and people calling me a hypocrite because
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I don't call him out for his days in New Orleans.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: And to one of the Texters, I said, not only
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: did I not call him out, I knew Sean Payton's resume,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I knew what he was about. I read everything in
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: his little Wikipedia history page. And guess what I said,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: He's the perfect guy for this job. Yeah, perfect guy.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I was so happy when the Broncos made that higher.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Perfect guy for the job. Yep. And I've said, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: you've said, football is a violent game. And if you
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: can't stand a coach who pushes the violent nature of
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: the game, then I don't think you understand the game.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I just got to you don't understand the game.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Just got a text from my boy, Marcus Washington, former
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: buff that's listening as a dB. I tried to hit
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: a wide receiver in their chest and come out the
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: other side of their box.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I can read text after text. Here's one right here
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: six nine nine three Vic is absolutely correct. I played
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: junior high and high school football. Good players would play
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: both ways. And the intent of a defensive players putting
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: a hit on someone and that's it, hitting them as
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: hard as they can across the middle. That was football.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: That was football, and it remains football. And guess what
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: if you didn't have rules that they have to abide by.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine these games being played out without penalties?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine the barbaric nature of the game if
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: if guys weren't penalized fifteen yards for some of the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: things they want to do.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Well, it'd look a lot like Deacon Jones, wouldn't it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I still remember there's some highlights from back in the
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: day of guys like throwing their cleats in another dude's
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: face mask like.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: It's a violent sport.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know what people are talking about whatever.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Five seven two five Our sororities played football and during
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: the game, somehow a girl from another sorority broker leg oops,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: we won. It's hilarious. Hey, by the way, you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: because you know what you people are always people chiming
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: in because there's one after another. There's one hundred text
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: right now, over one hundred. You're real and I like
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: to say I'm real on the show and and and
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: anybody who runs from what football really is and it
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: will always remain this and this is why I can't
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: stand the flag football in the Olympics because it's not football.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: It's not it if you remove the physical intent in football,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the physical intent to hurt the other person. Yeah, and
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: that's what it is and it's not the sport. Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: By the way, Nuggets are back at it tonight against
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: the best team in the East. Tune in for pregame
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: of Nuggets Pistons at six thirty powered by Ramas Law,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: with tip off just after seven. Just quickly here, I'll
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: give you an update because I was following Katie Wenjy
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: on their their travels. Here. Here's what she said at
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, right after they got here.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: It looks like a great movie. By the way, coming out,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I can't wait, honesty.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Oh with the Matt Damon, did you hear how much
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: weight he he went on a like a three month fast.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So here's what she said. Nuggets travel day from
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Memphis delayed to the airport, arrived around two pm. The
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: plane was parked for the forty eight hours of the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: storms was frozen all around and to the ground. De
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Icing took close to two hours. They took off at
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: five forty eight pm. They arrived in Denver at seven
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: and once they touched down in Denver, they had twenty
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: four hours before tipoff for tonight's game against Detroit. This
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: will be another game without Jokic. By the way, it
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: looks like he's getting closer and closer to returning to lineup,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: but with Aaron Gordon being out with another hamstring problem,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: guess what, Vic, You're back to four of your five
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: starters being out of the lineup again tonight, and it'll
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: be just Jamal Murray that will be on there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I say four of your five starters out, I don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: know if that includes you thinking Peyton Watson's going to
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: be a part of that when everybody's healthy again. But
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: for the opening day starting five, four or five will
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: be out again. And here's what's remarkable during this run,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Like the Nuggets are seven and three in their last
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: ten games, They're now tied exact same record, number two
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: seed in the Western Conference against San Antonio. If you
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: gave me one thousand guesses on what would happen in
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: the month that Yokich's out of the lineup, this is
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: not one of my options. I don't disagree that not
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: only do they not move, they actually improve.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: To tie for seconds. Listen to this, of the last
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: ten games played. I look at the NBA season in
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: a span of ten games a piece, ten games, ten games.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: That's the way George call used to do it. Monthly
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: ten game stretches ten games. Do you realize over the
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: last ten games, the Nuggets have the third best ten
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: game record in the NBA, third best, third. Let me
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: repeat this, the best Detroit who they played a night
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: eight and two, looked at this last night, and the
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: LA Clippers eight and two, believe it or not, over
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: the last ten. The Denver Nuggets seven and three over
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the last ten, all without I'm not just Jokic because
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I've been flapping my hand about this. That's just Jokicjkich,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson, Christian Brown. Many times it's Jonas Valanciunas, sometimes
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: it's Jamal and sometimes it's Aaron Gordon and sometimes it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: ag like it's nuts, absolutely nuts. Why so why do
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: you think this is? Why is this happening? You know what?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: First of all, what we said at the beginning of
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: the season that this is the deepest team that the
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Jokic era Nuggets have ever had, that is true. It's true.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've also.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Gotten guys who have really stepped up and played well
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: when they've gotten their moment in the spotlight, which I
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: think is also impressive. I'll also tell you this, and
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: maybe this is something nobody wants to hear because you
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: just want to give credit to the Nuggets, and you
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: know what, you should. I think this is embarrassing for
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: everybody else in the West. They had a month without
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: the best player in the world on the Denver Nuggets
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and vic nobody jumped them, no one. That's embarrassing for them.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: How the hell did they allow that? Think about how
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: pissed you'd be if for a month the Thunder were
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: without Shay and j Dubb and chettholm Grin and you
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: take the pick of another guy, Dort and you didn't
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: gain any ground on the Thunder.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't that piss you were?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It?
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Would? Yeah?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Not only have they gained or maintained ground. But they
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: are finding that the young players can play. They are
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: actually enriching themselves at the same time because the trade deadline.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: My friend, take a look at your trustee calendar. It's
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: next week? Is it next week? I believe it's February
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: the fifth, I believe. Take a good look the fifth
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: of February. I will be in San Francisco for the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl super Bowl week, but trust me, on that day,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: on the fifth of February, the news will be NB
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: A free agency.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the Nuggets are going to do
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: the trade deadline, I should say not free agency. I
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: don't know if the Nuggets are going to do anything,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: but I just know this. They suddenly have a bunch
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: of players who were tradable, Yeah, who we didn't think
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: would be tradable.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Are you looking to acquire I don't know, dude, or
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: are you like good?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I honestly don't know what they can
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: do because of their financial restrictions. I mean, would they
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: want to shed some salary if it's not like I'll
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: give you this if you know so and so are
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: not going to be in your playoff rotation because once
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: the All Star break comes, do you realize there's only
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: like thirty games left less than that? I think, yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Like the season is pretty much winding down. So if
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: you know what your playoff rotation is going to be.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: It's just realized. I just realized why it feels like
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: this season has gone so fast. The Broncos have never
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: made it this far.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: You're exactly right, because, yeah, because the Broncos have carried
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: you to late January and usually their season was done
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: a month earlier, and usually it was done like latex Right,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: you're just waiting because the Broncos carried you that far.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Now you're like, wait, you mean the NHL and the
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: NBA seasons are more than half over, right, Yeah, that's
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: exactly what's happened. So all I'm saying is, if you
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: know a player is not going to be in your rotation,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: and that player has got a price tag that you're
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: not willing to carry into next season or the season after,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: wouldn't it make sense at this point.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Who you're talking about here?
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Well, there's certain players on this team that I don't
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: know if they're going to be in the playoff rotation.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Do you look do you think Zeke will be in
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the player. Do you think Zeke Jalen Pikett. Do you
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: think these guys at Julians Strather do you think they'll rotation?
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: No, not unless there's injury.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: So if you're not in it and you have some
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: opportunities there, maybe that's what you use this trade deadline for.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe not, Maybe they do nothing.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Look if they're if you're still looking to trade Zeke Naji.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: The stock's never been higher right for him, And it's
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: not like he's played amazing, but he's played well enough
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: that somebody'd be like, yeah, you could take a flyer
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: on him something. I don't know.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: I want you to look something up for me because
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I had this conversation with Chris Dempsey and a lot
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: of people are saying, well, you know, if Peyton Watson,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you gotta resend him, you got to bring him back.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Just you know, some people have suggested trade Cam Johnson.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Now I don't know what their intent is, what they
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: can they even do that? Yeah, they could trade Camp.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Isn't there some rule about trading for somebody? There's a
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: certain amount of time way trade.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: That's that's past, it's gone over. But I want you
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: to look up Cam Johnson's salary real quick, give me
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: his numbers, term numbers, everything. And as soon as you
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: come up with these numbers, I'm gonna say something to
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: you that maybe.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: He's signed a four year, ninety four and a half
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: million dollar deals. See what he left on that is
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: one more year next year will be twenty seven million.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Twenty seven million one year. Okay, So that's what you
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: would define as a tradable contract because the term are
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: ending after next year. Correct, sorry, twenty two and a
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: half twenty two and a half, twenty two and a
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: half million, so the terms are ending next year. Yes.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: What if I told you and hear me out on
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: this twenty two and a half million dollar contract per year?
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: What if I told you that Peyton Watson may have
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: already priced himself out of that more than twenty two
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: and a half. Yeah, what if I told you there's
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: a team out there to say, yeah, screw it, we're
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: gonna pay twenty eight if he's.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: If he's on the open market, you would absolutely get
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: more than that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: He's going to be a restrictive free agent. That means
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: anybody can bid on him. Yeah, the Nuggets can match.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: But if he continues to play at this pace, that
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: number goes up every game he plays. Yeah, yep, no,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: he's uh.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: The curious case of Peyton Watson and what to do
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: with him moving forward. It's like, again, Vick, it's a
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: short and long term discussion. Short term is he a
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: starter now? Because I think he is?
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think you can look at the way that
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: he played and be like, you don't deserve to be
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: in the star lineup. There's no way you can do that.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: It's great to have depth. Extreme depth is even better, right,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Like Oklahoma City has extreme depth. I mean you can
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: go to the bottom of their lineup and those guys play.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: So the Denver Nuggets have proven now not only do
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: they have depth, they've got extended depth. That's great to
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: carry you through a regular season. It's awesome when you
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: can go seven and three in the last ten games
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: without your studs. It's awesome. However, it's almost wasteful in
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, where your rotation is nine deep at the most,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: It's like, what do you well? It does? What do
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you do there?
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Look?
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Man, with the way that injuries have plagued this team
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: once the postseason starts, not bad to have some reliable
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: things that might not be in the totally healthy rotation.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: By the way, I think it's good news to know
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: that we haven't gotten a Shams Sharani a tweet about AG.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I think that's good news because it means perhaps it's
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: not as bad as it looked. Maybe it's manageable, you know,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: because usually you get one of four to six weeks
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: reassessed exactly. Yea four to six weeks. Let's wait, we
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: didn't get one of those. Maybe they're keeping it closer
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: to the vest on this one.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: He's had so many hamstring problems, man, so many.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And to be totally honest with you, I don't know
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: what the fix is there. Once you have muscle pulls.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you do to prevent muscle pulls,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: because I think it just becomes part of who you are.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, have you ever pulled a hamstring?
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I think I was thirty
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: one the first time I pulled a hamstring, and then
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: it happened all the time. It's brutal, and then it
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: and then it just happens all the time. Hamstring, calf,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: hamstring calf, calf, hamstring, hamstring. It happens all the time.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: It's like and I second out of it, Like the
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: second you think you're good, you're not good.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: It sucks for him.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Because you've been doing this for like what two three
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: years now? Anyway, three oh three five O four nine
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: two five.
• 47:55
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