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Chuck & Buck 12-3 Hour 4: Scott Eklund on National Signing Day, Al Kinisky and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Signing Day, and that is pretty much an annual reason
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Speaker 1: for Ashley and I to call out for Scott Ekland
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Speaker 1: to join us here on the radio program from the
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Speaker 1: dog Man. Guys, you can follow Scott. They do tremendous
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Speaker 1: work of recruiting and covering Washington Athletics. Make sure you're
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Speaker 1: following Scott personally at Scott e k l U n
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Speaker 1: D there on Twitter, and it will lead you to
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Speaker 1: all of his wonderful work on his various websites, which
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Speaker 1: we will cover here in a moment. But let me
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Speaker 1: first tell Scott Eckland, Hey, Happy National Signing Day to you, sir.
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Speaker 2: Thanks man early Christmas for recruiting as definitely I know.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know this is it for you. So
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Speaker 1: and it sounds like Washington got a nice little surprise
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Speaker 1: gift under the tree here this morning. We got breaking
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Speaker 1: news to deal with here, Scott, what can you tell
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Speaker 1: us about wide receiver Tres Davis.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'm pretty sure. I've only talked to him
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Speaker 2: once and I didn't ask him out. It's pronounced his name,
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Speaker 2: but I'm pretty people have told me it's Trey Davis.
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Speaker 2: Trade Davis six six out of West Monroe, Louisiana can
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Speaker 2: do a lot of different things for you. Isn't Isn't
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Speaker 2: a guy who you can kind of pigeonhole in one
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Speaker 2: one area. He's a he's got he's got really good speed.
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Speaker 2: That's kind of his trademark. He's got great open field
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Speaker 2: running ability. UH could actually be in a return man
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Speaker 2: at some point. So Washington is doing a lot to
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Speaker 2: upgrade the the weapons outside that are at the disposal
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Speaker 2: of Demon Williams, because if you want Demon Williams to
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Speaker 2: have success, obviously he's got to have an offensive line
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Speaker 2: in front him, but he's also got to have some
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Speaker 2: people to throw to. And over the last two classes,
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Speaker 2: this is this now makes I believe it's ten wide
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Speaker 2: receivers in the UH in their recruit last two recruiting classes.
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Speaker 2: And so they've added a lot of talent, and now
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Speaker 2: we need to see see what it looks like in
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Speaker 2: springball and how things kind of pan out the way
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Speaker 2: they battle.
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Speaker 1: Scott Ecklund is though, this talking about Husky recruiting here
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Speaker 1: on the National Signing Day, And of course, so now
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Speaker 1: most of this stuff has already been done, so we'll
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Speaker 1: get to some of the things that have already been accomplished,
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Speaker 1: But what else are you working on? What else are
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Speaker 1: you keeping an eye on? What else could break today
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Speaker 1: that we would put in the you know, breaking news category?
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Speaker 2: Well as far as what are we waiting on, We're
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Speaker 2: waiting on ten more guys to get their letters in
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Speaker 2: and some of the the you know, some of those
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Speaker 2: guys are some of the biggest guys in the class,
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Speaker 2: including Cody Green, a five star officsive tackle out of
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Speaker 2: Southern California. He's a local kid that went that moved
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Speaker 2: down to modern day kind of that legendary program down there.
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Speaker 2: He's we're still waiting on him to sign. He's going
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Speaker 2: to sign a little later this morning. Brian Bonner, the
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Speaker 2: big time running back out of Valencia that Washington was
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Speaker 2: able to get in the class. They also have raj
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Speaker 2: On Duncan who is a cornerback defensive back out of mcclimbon's.
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Speaker 2: So we're still kind of waiting on some of those.
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Speaker 2: Another ones, Jaron Jones, who a lot of people are
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Speaker 2: comparing to a guy like Trent McDuffie, which Tusky fans
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Speaker 2: saw on other Trent McDuffie out there. I think they'd
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Speaker 2: be pretty happy about that. So just ten guys. I'm
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Speaker 2: not worried about any of them except for one, Dre Pollard.
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Speaker 2: He's a guy who is kind of deciding between Washington
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Speaker 2: and Stamford. He committed to Washington a while ago. He's
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Speaker 2: out of Clark High School in Las Vegas. That if
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Speaker 2: you want to talk about breaking news, that's kind of
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Speaker 2: what we're waiting for, waiting to see what he's done.
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Speaker 2: He's kind of gone dark, not really talking to a
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Speaker 2: lot of people. So it's a lot of second and
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Speaker 2: third hand sources, school sources, program sources, and things like that.
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Speaker 2: Some people are saying he's locked in with Washington, some
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Speaker 2: people are saying he's headed to Stanford, and then others
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Speaker 2: are saying he hasn't made up his mind yet. So
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Speaker 2: it's it's kind of those crazy pre draft information that
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Speaker 2: guys like melk Hyper guys you know that that followed
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Speaker 2: the draft so closely get and and you just have
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Speaker 2: to kind of sort through it and figure out what's
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Speaker 2: real and what isn't.
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Speaker 1: Where's all the local talent this year, Scott, where's the
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Speaker 1: Washington High school talent? Because I mean, there are various
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Speaker 1: lists out there and the players are few and far between.
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Speaker 1: This particular recruiting year coming out of the state of Washington,
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Speaker 1: and it felt to me like, Man, the state of
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Speaker 1: Washington high school football had been on a role here. Hell,
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Speaker 1: we practically handed Ohio state and national championship here last year.
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Speaker 1: So has this just been a down year for high
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Speaker 1: school talent here in Washington.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Washington does have four local guys committed
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Speaker 2: to them, Tom Malou out of Annie right, it's only
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Speaker 2: in their second year as with a football program. They
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Speaker 2: got the top guy in the state, Derek Coleman Brus
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Speaker 2: out of Kennedy Catholic. They also have let's see Audiyong Yang,
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Speaker 2: an officive lineman out of pew All Up. And there's
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Speaker 2: one more that I know I'm forgetting off the top
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Speaker 2: of my head, but you know, they've got several guys.
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Speaker 2: Oh ramzak Froon who just admitted out of Bethel High School.
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Speaker 2: He was Adrius Rainey Salay's teammate down at Bethel High
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Speaker 2: School down there and span Away. So you know, they
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Speaker 2: got some of the top guys in the state. But
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Speaker 2: as far as you know, some of the Washington offered
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Speaker 2: ten guys in I think actually it might be eleven
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Speaker 2: guys in the state of Washington. This pat this this
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Speaker 2: recruiting cycle, but there was only like four or five
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Speaker 2: that they really pursued hard. Another one could be adding
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Speaker 2: his name to the list later this week. Brendan Huffman
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Speaker 2: kind of broke this on our message board. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to take credit for it, but Brendon Huffman broke
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Speaker 2: that David Schwerzel, a defensive lineman out of Oday High School,
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Speaker 2: had committed to UCLA, flipped to Stanford when the UCLA
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Speaker 2: situation happened and they fired Deshaun Foster, and then recommitted
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Speaker 2: to UCLA. I think it was Monday, It might have
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Speaker 2: been yesterday, but definitely on Monday or yesterday that he
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Speaker 2: recommitted to UCLA And now things are back open and
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Speaker 2: it sounds like Washington has a good chance of reeling
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Speaker 2: him in. But it might not happen today. It might
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Speaker 2: happen either tomorrow or Friday. So you know, we'll just
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Speaker 2: have to wait and see on that. But as far
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Speaker 2: as you know, do we have guys on the caliber
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Speaker 2: of the Mecca at A Buka and uh and the
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Speaker 2: other guy I'm totally z who had Molaau. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: those guys. There just haven't been guys on that level yet,
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Speaker 2: you know, in the last couple of years. Now Derek
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Speaker 2: Coleman Brussa has that potential, but I mean he's he's
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Speaker 2: a legit six five, two hundred and seventy five pounds
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna play defensive end defensive tackle for Washington.
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Speaker 2: He's a lot like J. T. Two Malau and a
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Speaker 2: lot of what he does might not be quite on
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Speaker 2: that elite athleticism, you know level yet, but he's pretty
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Speaker 2: close and not far away. But you know, there just
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Speaker 2: hasn't been the same kind of five star talent to
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Speaker 2: come out of the state and if there did. If
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Speaker 2: there had been, Washington would be competing with everybody in
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Speaker 2: the country like they did with Derek Coleman Brusa, but
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Speaker 2: they would be doing it for multiple guys instead of
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Speaker 2: just Colan brus So that I mean, you know, it
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Speaker 2: isn't a bad class, and I think the depth of
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Speaker 2: the class is pretty good because there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: guys who are signing with powerful programs, but right now
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Speaker 2: Washington turned their focus to about five or six key
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Speaker 2: guys and those are the ones who are signing with them.
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Speaker 1: Scott Eckland is with us covering high school recruits on
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven at Dogman and twenty four to
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Speaker 1: seven sports dot Com as well, and he's joining us
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Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning, says he
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Speaker 1: always does on the National Signing Day his Christmas as
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Speaker 1: we talk about Washington recruiting and just overall national recruiting,
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Speaker 1: because let's face it, we're in a transition period in
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Speaker 1: a lot of ways in college football. Scott, I mean,
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Speaker 1: this day has changed for you, for players, for coaches,
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Speaker 1: for staffs everywhere. And I mean I just I look
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Speaker 1: at the top three hundred and you've got a guy
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Speaker 1: going to Maryland. For goodness, Ay, when Maryland never get
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Speaker 1: a top ten recruit. We saw guys flip from Georgia
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Speaker 1: to Vanderbilt yesterday. I mean, things are things are weird,
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Speaker 1: things are different, and maybe good. I don't know. How
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Speaker 1: do you feel about it as somebody that has loved
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Speaker 1: this recruiting process your entire.
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Speaker 2: Life, Well, I don't love the direction things are going now.
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Speaker 2: I will say I do like the fact that the
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Speaker 2: blue blood programs, the the you know, top ten programs
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Speaker 2: in the country. That's schools like Oregon and you know,
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Speaker 2: from a marketing standpoint, they haven't been a top ten
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Speaker 2: program from a win standpoint, but they seem to always
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Speaker 2: be in that group, in that top ten group, especially
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Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail. But schools like Oregon school schools
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Speaker 2: like Ohio State, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, schools like
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Speaker 2: that are having to battle a lot harder with these
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Speaker 2: up and coming programs, is what I'd like to call them,
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Speaker 2: you know, or programs that have a good reputation, they
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Speaker 2: might just not be They might be right on that
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Speaker 2: outside of the of the blue blood program kind of situation. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, NIL has obviously changed a lot of that.
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Speaker 2: The fact that kids can transfer all over the place,
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Speaker 2: I mean one of the things that I think. I
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Speaker 2: mean that they've got to figure out a way to
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Speaker 2: do in an equitable way, because I don't think players
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Speaker 2: shouldn't have the ability to move around if the coach
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Speaker 2: that they signed with leaves. Because you go to a job,
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Speaker 2: guess what you have to You have to either stick
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Speaker 2: it out or you can leave if you don't want
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Speaker 2: to work for the people that are that own that business.
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Speaker 2: And same with with colleges. You know, if a kid's
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Speaker 2: going to a school and things just aren't working out
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Speaker 2: there for whatever reason, he should be able to leave.
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Speaker 2: But we're not going to let players do that. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. People a lot
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Speaker 2: smarter than me have to figure this out. But the
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Speaker 2: problem is the fan bases have no buy in on
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Speaker 2: it with a lot of these kids, because they know
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Speaker 2: that the second jetfish decides to go to an NFL
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Speaker 2: program for a you know, as a take a job
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Speaker 2: with an NFL team, or they know that, you know,
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Speaker 2: the USC fans know that Lincoln Riley could be looking
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Speaker 2: somewhere else, or Ryan Day or you know, all these
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Speaker 2: coaches that either could get fired or could leave for
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Speaker 2: greener pastures. Those kids can just jump right into the portal.
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Speaker 2: And so that's why a lot of these coaches are
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Speaker 2: advocating for the portal not to open until after springball,
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Speaker 2: even for kids whose coaches left. That way, hey, they
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Speaker 2: get a chance to be be recruited by the new staff,
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Speaker 2: and they also get a chance to work with them
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Speaker 2: during spring football, and then they can make an educated
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Speaker 2: decision instead of these snap judgments that these kids make
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Speaker 2: that they have to make because they only get like
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Speaker 2: a five or fifteen day window, whatever it is to
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Speaker 2: make that decision. So I think the luster is a
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Speaker 2: little bit off of signing day like that compared to
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Speaker 2: what it used to be, just because a lot of
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Speaker 2: fans don't have that buy in with these guys because
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Speaker 2: they know they could leave at the drop of a hat.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's still an important building process for
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Speaker 2: Washington and all these other programs, and so a lot
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Speaker 2: of fans are still bought in. I think they just
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Speaker 2: aren't quite as bought in as they were before.
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Speaker 1: There's the potential for my favorite sports story of the year,
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Speaker 1: and it could go down today. It might be happening
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Speaker 1: right before our eyes. I'm sure you know more about
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Speaker 1: this than I do, and so I do want to
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Speaker 1: get your take on it. But the number one overall
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Speaker 1: prospect in the country, not in every circle, I'm sure,
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Speaker 1: but in a lot of circles is LSU pledge Lamar Brown.
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Speaker 1: And the story today is that maybe he's not going
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Speaker 1: to sign with LSU. So there is a chance that
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Speaker 1: this kid out of Mississippi and Lane Kiffin, who had
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Speaker 1: to leave Ole, miss just to get the LSU in
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Speaker 1: time for today so that he didn't lose recruits, might
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Speaker 1: lose the best recruit in the country. And believe me, Scott,
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Speaker 1: I would like nothing more in the world than if
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Speaker 1: we found out in an hour Lamar R. Brown is
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Speaker 1: signing with ole miss and the whole reason he was
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Speaker 1: leaving the state to begin with is because he hated
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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's guts. That would be amazing, Scott.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, Lane Kiffin is is
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Speaker 2: a lightning rod. Definitely, he draws it, he doesn't shrink
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Speaker 2: away from it, and you know he can be entertaining
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Speaker 2: at times, but there's other times when you're just shut up,
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Speaker 2: just do you know whatever. And I don't know if
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Speaker 2: you've seen the tweets from from some of his former
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Speaker 2: players that are out there that where he said, you know,
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Speaker 2: the team asked me to stay, but the school wouldn't
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Speaker 2: let me, and the players like, yeah, that isn't what
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Speaker 2: you said in your meeting with us, Wow, And nobody
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Speaker 2: nobody said that to us or to you. Nobody none
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Speaker 2: of us said that you they wanted you to stay
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Speaker 2: and coach, so that, you know, I mean, that's just
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Speaker 2: kind of who he is and you know that going in.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it's happened a lot. I mean, dude,
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Speaker 2: this is the least craziest thing that could happen on
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Speaker 2: signing day. There was one where a kid faxed in
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Speaker 2: his letter of intent upside down to the school that
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Speaker 2: he had pledged to, and then they sent it back.
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Speaker 2: They said, hey, you need to turn it over and
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Speaker 2: send it. This is when they sent faxes by the way, right,
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Speaker 2: you need to you need to send it back to
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Speaker 2: a space up and so he said, okay, I will,
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Speaker 2: and then he faxed it into Ohio State, so to
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Speaker 2: a different school. There's another one where a mom wouldn't
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Speaker 2: refuse to sign and ran away with the letter of intent,
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Speaker 2: wouldn't let the kids sign. So trust me, there is
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Speaker 2: as crazy as it sounds. What you the scenario you
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Speaker 2: you mapped out, and don't get me wrong, it's still crazy,
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Speaker 2: but it doesn't even it isn't even a realm of
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Speaker 2: what could be crazy on finning day.
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Speaker 1: Scott Ecklin is whether it's he's seen a signing day
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Speaker 1: or two from a dog man joining us here to
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Speaker 1: talk about what you dubb is doing primarily and so
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Speaker 1: let's go back to that to finish out the conversation.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm seeing top twenty. Is that good with you?
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Speaker 1: Do you like this class for Jedfish? Is it another
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Speaker 1: example of a step in the right direction for building
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Speaker 1: this program.
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Speaker 2: Well, it is top twenty, but it's actually top thirteen.
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Speaker 2: It's number thirteen in the country. So the scary thing
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Speaker 2: is it is the fifth best class in the Big ten,
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Speaker 2: and in the Big ten has five of the top thirteen,
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Speaker 2: and at the SEC has six of the top thirteen
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Speaker 2: in the country. So that means there's only two programs
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Speaker 2: and that's Notre Dame and Miami that have better classes
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Speaker 2: that aren't in one of the big two conferences. So
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Speaker 2: it just shows you how a lot of as much
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Speaker 2: as we might say things have kind of opened up,
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Speaker 2: the talent level is still going to the top two
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Speaker 2: conferences in the country. Yeah, in the Big ten in
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Speaker 2: the SEC, so but no, as far as Washington love
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Speaker 2: the class, I mean they got the best guy from
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Speaker 2: the state of Washington. They got two of the three
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Speaker 2: best from the state of Nevada in Gavin Day of
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Speaker 2: the Safety Out of Faith Lutheran and and then Dominic Carris,
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Speaker 2: one of the top linemen on their board of six
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Speaker 2: eight three and fifty pounds offensive tackle. They've got, they've
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Speaker 2: got some good running backs. They've got a heck of
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Speaker 2: a wide receiver class in Mason James out of Norman
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Speaker 2: North in Oklahoma, Blaze Lavisa out of Illinois. And then
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Speaker 2: they got the two guys you know we met. We
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Speaker 2: talked about Trey Davis earlier. We didn't even mention Jordan Clay,
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Speaker 2: who might be the biggest get of the four, and
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Speaker 2: he committed to Washington yesterday. He flipped his commitment from
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Speaker 2: Baylor to Washington. He's out of Texas, San Antonio, San
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Speaker 2: Antonio something. He's out of San Antonio, so anyway, he's
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Speaker 2: had a he's had a program down there. So Washington
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Speaker 2: has one of the best wide receiver classes. He's six three,
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Speaker 2: two hundred pounds, Blaze Lavisa's about six to one five.
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Speaker 2: You also have Mason James, who's a little on the
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Speaker 2: smaller side. He's more of like your slot receiver. And
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Speaker 2: then you got Trey Davis who can do a bunch
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Speaker 2: of different things for you. So they're wide receiver classes.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's second to none, but
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Speaker 2: it's it's pretty darn good. And then you got a
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Speaker 2: really good defensive back class and Kasani Giles, Gavin Day,
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Speaker 2: who I already mentioned, you got Jaron Jones, Uh, you
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Speaker 2: got some big time guys. Two more other big time
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Speaker 2: guys in the class from that are defensive back, so
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Speaker 2: it's it's a really good solid overall class. The defensive
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Speaker 2: line is really picked up from a recruiting standpoint over
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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. And getting David Schwerzel just
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Speaker 2: add another great piece if they do end up getting
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Speaker 2: him by the end of the week. So just a
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Speaker 2: good overall building class and something that Jedfish can go. Okay,
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Speaker 2: now we can turn to the portal see how many
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Speaker 2: guys of ours are deciding to leave and how we
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Speaker 2: need to fill in things because they're losing there's two
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Speaker 2: starting corners, they're they're losing five or six defensive lineman
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Speaker 2: from the rotation. They're losing two of their offensive linemen
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Speaker 2: to graduation and Garon Hatchett and Carver Willis. So they've
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Speaker 2: got some work to do to fill in some holes.
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Speaker 2: But the talent level is definitely building for Washington.
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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, excellent. All right, Tom, let's promote something where
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Speaker 1: people need to know to get this information all day
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Speaker 1: long from you and your gang.
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Speaker 2: Well, first thing that people need to know is the
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Speaker 2: two four seven Sports national broadcast is up on our board.
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Speaker 2: So just go over to dog Man dawg m an
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Speaker 2: dot com. Sign in there, get on our recruiting board,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, on our Signing Day board, and that's where
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Speaker 2: all of the information is. We have that pinned up
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Speaker 2: at the top for you. You can watch that show
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Speaker 2: over there. We've got all of the commits as they
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Speaker 2: come in and with their signings. We're updating all those things,
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna have some superlatives from the class that
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Speaker 2: I usually do. Usually I do it the day after,
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Speaker 2: but it's probably gonna be two days after because i
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Speaker 2: am down in Hawaii, So I'm going to spend some
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Speaker 2: time with my family. Haven't been able to do that
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Speaker 2: this whole week because I've been getting ready for today.
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna spend some time with the family later
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Speaker 2: today and then but have something up for you guys
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Speaker 2: on Friday on superlatives. And also I'll look ahead of
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Speaker 2: what the twenty twenty seven classes because we never stop
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Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail. So come on over to dog Man.
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Speaker 2: Lots of stuff to talk about all.
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Speaker 1: Right, awesome stuff. Thank you as always, we appreciate. We'll
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Speaker 1: bug you real soon.
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Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck. Good morning out, Good morning Chuck, Chuck.
19:33
Speaker 3: Happy week after Thanksgiving?
19:35
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Did
19:38
Speaker 1: you have a nice celebration?
19:41
Speaker 3: I did? I did, and I'm paying for it now,
19:44
Speaker 3: you know, go tight things up the queen now and crystals,
19:47
Speaker 3: so I can eat the same way and geez, less
19:50
Speaker 3: than three weeks.
19:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wondering. I guess Bucky ate turkey for like
19:56
Speaker 1: sixteen straight meals and he loved every second of it.
19:59
Speaker 1: So he's not one that complains about leftovers.
20:02
Speaker 3: L No, nothing wrong with from leftover turkey for turkey sandwiches.
20:07
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've got an issue with this cracking
20:11
Speaker 1: team all of a sudden this year. And I realize
20:13
Speaker 1: you go through hot and cold spells, and so I'm
20:15
Speaker 1: not so worried about a three game losing streak at
20:18
Speaker 1: this point in the year. But should I be worried
20:21
Speaker 1: about a power play that suddenly has gone ice ice
20:25
Speaker 1: cold here? Ol?
20:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's tough to put your finger on
20:30
Speaker 3: what's going on. I will say, you know, you're coming
20:33
Speaker 3: off of a few games with teams with fantastic special
20:37
Speaker 3: teams groups. Now that's not an excuse because you're going
20:40
Speaker 3: to face those throughout the season. But I think this
20:43
Speaker 3: team is just looking for that right combination of guys,
20:48
Speaker 3: that right to set up in the offensive zone. There.
20:51
Speaker 3: You know, I started counting shot at Temps last games
20:55
Speaker 3: on the power play and it's not like they're only
20:58
Speaker 3: getting one or two shot attemps. There are a temp
21:00
Speaker 3: to put the puck on net, but for whatever reason,
21:02
Speaker 3: it's missing the net, it's getting blocked, it's getting deflected
21:05
Speaker 3: up over the glass, and so the shot attempts are there.
21:10
Speaker 3: They've got to find ways to get the puck through,
21:12
Speaker 3: and I think a little more traffic in front and
21:15
Speaker 3: you'll start seeing more of these goals either going off
21:17
Speaker 3: of deflections that are intentional by it by cracking players,
21:21
Speaker 3: or they'll create secondary chances that then cracking players can
21:25
Speaker 3: pick up and find the rebounds on.
21:26
Speaker 1: Well, let's play a little armchair Lane Lambert here. I mean,
21:30
Speaker 1: what kind of combination would you like to see him
21:33
Speaker 1: try to maybe unlock this thing. Who are some players
21:37
Speaker 1: that you think could possibly create some chemistry there on
21:41
Speaker 1: the power play?
21:43
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a couple of parts to that answer.
21:46
Speaker 3: Number one is, you know, on the downside, you've lost
21:49
Speaker 3: Jaden Schwartz for a period of time and he was
21:51
Speaker 3: a key part of the power play. But it creates
21:53
Speaker 3: opportunities for others. So if I'm Lane Lambert, I'm obviously
21:57
Speaker 3: excited to have Jared McCann back he's been back for
22:01
Speaker 3: a couple of games so far, He's obviously a part
22:03
Speaker 3: of that power play and can have a big impact
22:06
Speaker 3: on it. So if we say, like for like, maybe
22:08
Speaker 3: Jaden Schwartz and Jared McCann are are, you know, balance
22:14
Speaker 3: each other out? You know what, one takes it down,
22:16
Speaker 3: one brings it up, and you think, well who else
22:18
Speaker 3: could be out there? Well, because of Jaden Schwartz being injured,
22:22
Speaker 3: you're giving Berkeley to cat In a chance on the
22:24
Speaker 3: power play as well. And he hasn't scored a goal yet,
22:26
Speaker 3: but I see it so coming, so close, and I
22:30
Speaker 3: think that, you know, one of the things Lane Lamberte
22:32
Speaker 3: said yesterday is you know he wants to puck. He
22:34
Speaker 3: you know, he's so close, and I think once he
22:36
Speaker 3: starts gets his first one, they'll start coming in bunches.
22:39
Speaker 3: So between Jared McCann being back and the opportunity for
22:43
Speaker 3: Berkeley Catten to get in and a couple of games
22:46
Speaker 3: with these guys getting some power play time under their belts,
22:49
Speaker 3: I think you'll start to see that percentage start to
22:52
Speaker 3: inch back up.
22:53
Speaker 1: How long is Schwartz going to be out? What are
22:55
Speaker 1: you hearing?
22:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hearing four to six weeks. And it's crazy, Chuck,
23:00
Speaker 3: because this season we're hearing about so many injuries and
23:03
Speaker 3: it's not Hey, you know, he's going to be out
23:05
Speaker 3: for a few days or a week. You know, it's
23:08
Speaker 3: it's four to six weeks. In some cases it's months.
23:11
Speaker 3: You know, Like, the injuries are real this season. And
23:14
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the compressed schedule that's causing this.
23:17
Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody is going to do some research and
23:20
Speaker 3: figure out how many you know, injuries called them low, mid,
23:25
Speaker 3: and high level. You know, days, weeks, and months have
23:28
Speaker 3: happened in the first twenty four games this season versus
23:31
Speaker 3: last season, this season before, but it feels like it's higher.
23:34
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what we're hearing about. Jayden Schwartz is
23:37
Speaker 3: four to six weeks and you know, we probably won't
23:40
Speaker 3: see him back on the ice until January.
23:43
Speaker 1: Al kaniskis with us our color analysts Husky Excue me Huskies.
23:47
Speaker 1: I was looking at a Huskies read yeah, yeah, a
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Speaker 1: Husky fan, but crack an analyst and he joins us
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Speaker 1: every Wednesday at this tondanks to the Queen Anne Beer
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Speaker 1: hall hole with the legendary smash burger and your pre
24:02
Speaker 1: post and away game a headquarters. Well, get back at
24:05
Speaker 1: action tomorrow. Maybe a little extra rest will help, but
24:09
Speaker 1: certainly the opponent doesn't help. This is a team and
24:12
Speaker 1: Edmonton that we know is one of the most talented
24:15
Speaker 1: in all of the National Hockey League and they just
24:16
Speaker 1: beat you for four to squad the last time you
24:20
Speaker 1: played them. So not exactly the easiest team to get
24:23
Speaker 1: back on the horse with.
24:25
Speaker 3: No, it's not, but I'll tell you check. The team
24:28
Speaker 3: has had four days of practice, and if you look
24:30
Speaker 3: at the schedule, other than maybe the Olympic break, there
24:34
Speaker 3: isn't a break where you get that much time to
24:37
Speaker 3: work on your game. And I think it's been a
24:38
Speaker 3: good opportunity for the guys to, like I said, get
24:41
Speaker 3: through that Thanksgiving break, have four days of practice, look
24:44
Speaker 3: at film, look at what went wrong in that last
24:48
Speaker 3: Edmonton game, and then roll into Edmonton tomorrow with a
24:50
Speaker 3: bit of a chip on their shoulder. And I think
24:53
Speaker 3: you're going to see that in this game, whether it
24:56
Speaker 3: be the physicality of the game, whether it be the
24:58
Speaker 3: intensity of the game. Think the guys are a little
25:01
Speaker 3: a little annoyed of how how things went last game,
25:04
Speaker 3: and you're going to see a very different outcome. At
25:06
Speaker 3: least that's what I believe.
25:07
Speaker 1: Is this offensive thing just going to be an issue
25:10
Speaker 1: all year long? It certainly was last year. We didn't
25:13
Speaker 1: win as many one goal games a year ago. The
25:16
Speaker 1: defense didn't seem to be quite as sharp as it
25:19
Speaker 1: was the previous season. And so I mean, is this
25:23
Speaker 1: offensive thing we were feeling earlier in the year like
25:26
Speaker 1: maybe that that issue had been solved a little bit?
25:30
Speaker 1: Are you what is your long term expectation of whether
25:33
Speaker 1: or not we've got the offensive pieces for this not
25:37
Speaker 1: to become a problem.
25:39
Speaker 3: You know, Chuck, I went to the Seahawk game on Sunday,
25:41
Speaker 3: and I think after the fourth field goal and defensive touchdown,
25:45
Speaker 3: I thought, does this team not know how to score touchdowns?
25:49
Speaker 3: But they end up winning it. They end up shutting
25:51
Speaker 3: out you know, their opponent in the Detroit Lions. It's like, well,
25:55
Speaker 3: wait a second, defense does matter here, and you know,
25:58
Speaker 3: there are other ways to win ball games. And I
26:00
Speaker 3: think that's what the Kraken are dealing with this season,
26:02
Speaker 3: is they're recognizing that scoring isn't necessarily an issue, as
26:07
Speaker 3: you say, It's just that defense is the priority and
26:11
Speaker 3: keeping the opposition you know, with goals against low enough
26:16
Speaker 3: where you stay in the game for as long as possible,
26:19
Speaker 3: and then taking advantage of your opportunities when you get them. Now,
26:23
Speaker 3: the part of those opportunities see above is the power play.
26:26
Speaker 3: You have to take advantage of those because that's your
26:28
Speaker 3: chance to get on the board if you're keeping the
26:31
Speaker 3: opposition at two goals, at three goals, at one whatever.
26:34
Speaker 3: But I think you're not going to see a lot
26:37
Speaker 3: of games from this team where they win six nothing
26:40
Speaker 3: in whatever city or against whatever team they're playing. It's
26:43
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of four to two wins,
26:44
Speaker 3: three to one wins, three two wins. And you know,
26:47
Speaker 3: from a player's perspective, I'm okay with that. You know,
26:50
Speaker 3: sometimes the fans don't like it. They want to see
26:52
Speaker 3: a lot of goals, But at the end of the day,
26:54
Speaker 3: the players just want to know what's the strategy on
26:57
Speaker 3: how to win hockey games. And if it's a defense
26:59
Speaker 3: for mentality, then you've got all twenty guys pulling in
27:02
Speaker 3: the same direction. They'll go out and do it.
27:04
Speaker 1: Just win baby, Just win baby. That's what it's all about,
27:08
Speaker 1: all right. Okay, so you talked about Thanksgiving, what's your
27:11
Speaker 1: closing move. What's your pie? What's your go to pie
27:14
Speaker 1: at the end of Thanksgiving?
27:15
Speaker 3: Well, I love a pecan pie and I get it
27:18
Speaker 3: in simple It's butter, it's sugar, it's pecans. But you
27:21
Speaker 3: know what, it's a simple pie. It's delicious. My mother
27:24
Speaker 3: in law makes it homemade, and I swear I end
27:26
Speaker 3: up eating about three quarters of it because it mostly
27:28
Speaker 3: because I don't share it with anybody, but I do
27:31
Speaker 3: not like pumpkin pie, so everybody else can enjoy that
27:34
Speaker 3: on their own. And you actually had apple pie on
27:36
Speaker 3: the table this year as well, So three different kinds
27:38
Speaker 3: of pie on the Kanskie Thanksgiving table, and I eat
27:41
Speaker 3: most of one of them.
27:43
Speaker 1: All right, The Caniskys, they think of it all I
27:45
Speaker 1: really do. All right, man, Well, thank you very much.
27:48
Speaker 1: We'll be listening tomorrow night, and we'll talk to you
27:51
Speaker 1: next week.
27:52
Speaker 3: All right, Chuck talk you Den, all right.
27:54
Speaker 1: Crack will be in Edmonton next to the tree in
27:57
Speaker 1: Edmonton to take on the Oilers tomorrow. It'll be six
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Speaker 1: Everett fits you and Al KINISKI will be on the
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Speaker 1: call al weighing about seven pounds more. It sounds like
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Speaker 1: than what he was The last call of a crack
28:16
Speaker 1: compie sounds really good. I like the conpie. It kind
28:19
Speaker 1: of gets overlooked in the conversation.
28:21
Speaker 4: I don't want like a lot of it, but I
28:22
Speaker 4: want a piece.
28:23
Speaker 1: But I do love pumpkin and I was not like
28:25
Speaker 1: that as a kid. But I can't even imagine Thanksgiving it.
28:28
Speaker 1: I feel bad for people that don't like pumpkin pie.
28:31
Speaker 4: I don't not like it. It's just not my go to.
28:33
Speaker 3: Well it's the go to.
28:35
Speaker 1: But you don't like coffee. That's the key, because the
28:38
Speaker 1: pairing of the two is the best.
28:42
Speaker 4: Got it?
28:42
Speaker 2: You know?
28:43
Speaker 4: I would never drink coffee at and I didn't drink.
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Speaker 1: Coffee as a kid, and it's probably why I didn't
28:47
Speaker 1: like pumpkin pie.
28:48
Speaker 4: Oh there you go.
28:49
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
28:50
Speaker 4: And you do like like a pumpkin spice latte, don't you?
28:53
Speaker 3: I do?
28:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I used to get it every year, but I stopped
28:56
Speaker 1: doing that when I moved here. I was forced.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it by powers beyond softy.
29:02
Speaker 1: Yes, let's call it softy, all right? We're going to
29:05
Speaker 1: close out the show with one last thing. Next al
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Speaker 1: It's Chuck Bucks not here Ashley Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: for you to do. But we're going to close out
30:01
Speaker 1: the show with one last thing. No Bucky Jacobson, he
30:04
Speaker 1: took off on us at nine o'clock. He's going to
30:07
Speaker 1: go down and party with buddies.
30:09
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's Benny's birthday bash.
30:11
Speaker 1: Oh, Benny's Birthday Bash.
30:13
Speaker 3: Oh.
30:13
Speaker 1: It is a hoot annual tradition.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
30:16
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the fiftieth. Can you imagine the high jinks.
30:19
Speaker 4: Oh, it's going to be madness.
30:21
Speaker 1: I think Benny's going to be mailed to another country.
30:25
Speaker 6: I hope so, because that'd be funny, not for Benny's sake,
30:28
Speaker 6: just for fun and a big crate.
30:30
Speaker 1: I think that's how that's going to end up. I
30:33
Speaker 1: think it's very hangover, like classic Benny class. It's a
30:38
Speaker 1: classic Benny Friends move.
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Speaker 4: That's right, classic Jets move.
30:41
Speaker 1: Uh huh, all right, Ashley, what is your one last thing?
30:44
Speaker 6: Well, we got a text earlier today talking about how
30:47
Speaker 6: you Dub Oregon is not a rivalry game because you
30:50
Speaker 6: Dub has not beaten Oregon very much in the last
30:53
Speaker 6: twenty years. So I said, well, that's not quite how
30:56
Speaker 6: a rivalry works, Like, it's not just about if one
30:58
Speaker 6: team's dominant now then there's the rivalry's over. And he's like, yeah,
31:02
Speaker 6: that's exactly how it works. It's a historical matchup. But
31:06
Speaker 6: UDUB isn't close to Oregon's biggest game on the schedule. Okay,
31:09
Speaker 6: well that's not always true, so it.
31:11
Speaker 1: Wasn't even true two years agame, right exactly.
31:14
Speaker 4: So Also, I didn't want to. I just wanted to.
31:18
Speaker 6: It's interesting because this isn't the first text we've gotten
31:20
Speaker 6: that of people that don't quite understand rivalries and how
31:23
Speaker 6: they come about or how they stick around. And so
31:26
Speaker 6: I went to our trustee online just to say, does
31:31
Speaker 6: a rivalry game have to be the biggest game on
31:32
Speaker 6: a team schedule? And AI says, no, it does not
31:36
Speaker 6: have to be the biggest game, but sometimes it could be,
31:40
Speaker 6: especially if championship or playoff implications are also on the line.
31:43
Speaker 6: Factors that make a rivalry game big. This is a
31:47
Speaker 6: rivalry game, deep historical animosity and tradition. These two teams
31:51
Speaker 6: have been playing since nineteen hundred, often scheduled at the
31:55
Speaker 6: end of the season.
31:58
Speaker 4: When did Oregon and Washington play last game? Okay?
32:01
Speaker 6: And high emotional investment from both fan bases. Yeah, I'd
32:05
Speaker 6: say it checks the list of a rivalry. So just
32:09
Speaker 6: wanted to I just get an again, because it's not
32:12
Speaker 6: the first person that kind of like. I even looked
32:15
Speaker 6: at Wikipedia's definition of a rivalry the state of two
32:18
Speaker 6: people are groups engaging in a lasting competitive relationship. Man,
32:22
Speaker 6: just because you don't think that this person also is,
32:25
Speaker 6: by the way, not a fan of either team. So
32:27
Speaker 6: just because you have no emotional investment in a game
32:29
Speaker 6: played between two teams that you don't care about doesn't
32:32
Speaker 6: make it not a rivalry.
32:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It sounds like a rogue weirdo.
32:38
Speaker 6: But again, as I said, it's not, it's not the
32:40
Speaker 6: first person. Yeah, That's why I was like, I feel
32:42
Speaker 6: like people are having they think that the level of
32:45
Speaker 6: competition has something to.
32:47
Speaker 4: Do with the rivalry.
32:49
Speaker 1: Well, I think it does. Historically, Yes, every year and
32:55
Speaker 1: this this has certainly been a strange rob from the
32:58
Speaker 1: standpoint of one team beat the tar out of the
33:01
Speaker 1: other one for almost the entirety of the rivalry, and
33:05
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, for a quarter century, the
33:09
Speaker 1: script got flipped and we thought that we had even
33:12
Speaker 1: the playing field with the Klein de Boor era, and
33:16
Speaker 1: then that got pulled out from underneath us, and Jetfish
33:19
Speaker 1: trying to get us back to that point here in
33:21
Speaker 1: the last couple of years and in the successive seasons,
33:24
Speaker 1: we gotten closer to it. Obviously, it was a much
33:26
Speaker 1: better showing this year than it was a year ago. So,
33:29
Speaker 1: I mean, Oregon's got it going on, and yet man,
33:33
Speaker 1: their fans are really having a hard time with success.
33:36
Speaker 1: You guys do not have a great reputation out there,
33:38
Speaker 1: not that Washington doesn't have its fair share of.
33:42
Speaker 4: But Bucky was saying that it was Ducks fans that
33:44
Speaker 4: were driving him crazy at the game.
33:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got a Duck fan saying, man, Duck
33:48
Speaker 1: fans are annoying. Boy. Yeah. So I don't know, And
33:51
Speaker 1: I think Dan Lanning being such a turd great coach
33:55
Speaker 1: turd y has sort of amped it up, amped that up.
33:59
Speaker 6: As It's like Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh that was
34:01
Speaker 6: the other text that San Francisco and the Seahawks is
34:04
Speaker 6: not a rivalry.
34:05
Speaker 1: I was like, it is long way of saying it
34:08
Speaker 1: is a rivalry, and right now, Oregon certainly is getting
34:11
Speaker 1: the best and they've got a better program right now,
34:14
Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like it's going to be slowing
34:15
Speaker 1: down anytime soon. So challenged Jetfish and the Huskies to
34:19
Speaker 1: get it back where it needs to be so that
34:24
Speaker 1: those three people can understand that it actually is a rivalry,
34:28
Speaker 1: because it's really important for me.
34:31
Speaker 6: To those And they said, had this been the only one,
34:35
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have ever brought it up.
34:36
Speaker 4: But this is not the only person.
34:38
Speaker 6: And I'm like, I just don't get why rivalries are
34:40
Speaker 6: so complicated to some people, don't make it a bigger
34:42
Speaker 6: deal than it is.
34:42
Speaker 4: It rivalry.
34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have hot they sometimes they're hotter than sometimes
34:46
Speaker 1: they cool off. But yeah, rivalries are rivalries. They are
34:49
Speaker 1: what they are. New ones can be made, but old
34:52
Speaker 1: ones rarely die.
34:53
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly. And that was the other one, is that
34:56
Speaker 6: you can't make a new rivalry. I'm like, yes you can.
35:00
Speaker 4: These people.
35:01
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, it's based on like a gate like an
35:03
Speaker 6: NFC US championship, where all of a sudden you really
35:05
Speaker 6: hate each other.
35:06
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this happened then. I think the
35:08
Speaker 1: Seahawks have had There are different patches since I've been here.
35:13
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:14
Speaker 1: When I first got here, the Cardinals were the No,
35:17
Speaker 1: it was the Niners. It was the Niners. But then
35:19
Speaker 1: the Cardinals seem to have like a little stretch.
35:21
Speaker 4: West as they were. Yeah, we couldn't figure out their formula.
35:24
Speaker 1: And they were having huge battles. Yeah, and now it
35:28
Speaker 1: feels like it's the Rams.
35:29
Speaker 4: Yeah it's okay, but I still have they They're.
35:33
Speaker 1: All rivals, they're division rivals. All right. I'll close with
35:37
Speaker 1: this my one last thing. I guess the Shawn Watson's back. Yeah,
35:41
Speaker 1: I saw that this twenty one day practice window opened up.
35:44
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll play again for the Cleveland Browns,
35:47
Speaker 1: but I suppose if you've got some time to try
35:50
Speaker 1: to figure that out. You ought to spend some time
35:53
Speaker 1: trying to figure that out, because you have created a
35:57
Speaker 1: big ass mass.
35:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll figure out how to make it messy.
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow at six o'clock.
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