Latest / Justice For / Kahleb Collins & RyLeigh Collins
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- justice for: We say it over and over that the system is broken. ⁓ Something needs to change. ⁓ We acknowledge that these departments are overworked and ⁓ Yet time and again we see kids slip through the cracks only be noticed after it's too late. ⁓ When will enough be enough? Welcome back to Justice Four. We're your hosts. I'm Jackie. And I'm Sam. Are we doing another kid one, Jackie? Yeah. After what we just did to them last week. I know. I'm I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry because This wasn't my fault. We all need to hear about this. Last week was my fault. This week is my fault. Sam, I don't know if I've ever mentioned this case to you at all. ⁓ This is a case that I've been following since it broke, and I wasn't obsessive about it, but occasionally it would pop up in my head and I would Google to see if there's any updates. And for a while there didn't seem to be any. And I thought maybe I was reading too much into this and nothing was going to come out of it. But then everything changed. And things began to be released. Arrests were made. And I wasn't sure I was going to do an episode on this, but I think more people need to know about it so that Kahleb doesn't slip through the cracks of justice again. ⁓ So before we get into all this, little shameless plug. Season three. We've been telling you there's season three merch. There hasn't. I went on vacation and got a little busy before I left. So I'm gonna work on that. I did put out an old shirt that people have been asking for. It was the gray long sleeve that says be so fucking for real on it with like pink flowers on it and shit. So that's out there if that's something you're still interested in. This week I'm gonna work on it. It's Memorial Day today actually we're recording. You're gonna be hearing this episode tomorrow. Tomorrow. So we recorded it yesterday for y'all. ⁓ so I'm gonna need to edit and get all of that out for you. If you saw my snafu earlier this weekend, I accidentally posted all the pictures from this episode on our story. ⁓ she did. Remember, we are amateurs, we do everything on our own. So I was sitting there and I see people liking posts on our page and I was like, what posts are these? And I go and look and I'm like, ⁓ she didn't mean to post these yet. So we're getting it together, I promise. No, we're not. Let's be fucking real here for a second. She's pretending that we got it together. All right, but look out in the next ⁓ week or two for season three merch to be up. I will have a Facebook post, Instagram post about it, so make sure you're like, subscribe, following at Justice Four Podcast everywhere. Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube. Apple, Spotify, all the places so you don't miss an episode and you don't miss any new things that we post. Because there's a lot going on with cases that are getting ready to go to trial. I'm gonna start getting better about posting those things out for you guys. So just And for some fucking reason, a lot of people are getting their sentences overturned. Yes. And it's really not fucking okay. Alex and Leticia. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so we'll have a lot coming out with that stuff. There is a lot that's about to be Going on with Barry Morphew. His team just filed like 21 motions ⁓ right before court date. So I'm definitely gonna have some YouTube shorts and some TikTok shorts out ⁓ reels that are just very brief snippets of snippets about that because there's so much updating that I would be having to record every other day to put something into an episode. Yeah. So we'll try to get those out in smaller bursts for you. Period. Alright. No. ⁓ Nay nay. You ready? No, brother. ⁓ So I do wanna add an extra trigger warning today's for severe abuse and some details in this episode are going to be hard to hear. So be prepared. free to skip this episode and join us next week if you need to. Please take care of you. I am gonna try to put a ⁓ timestamp in the description of this episode for one specific part. So just so you know, I will warn you before that. I'm not fucking ready for this. God damn. I need you to know that there's not a single buckle up in this episode. Just be buckled. Today's case takes us to Fayette County, Alabama. Fun fact, before it was officially named Fayette County in eighteen twenty four, the area was referred to as frog level. ⁓ Because of all the swamp lands, every spring and winter the heavy rains brought out the bullfrogs who croaked loudly and incessantly. The development of the area greatly reduced all of that, and current so the current Fayette County is home to about sixteen thousand people now. Okay. How many frogs? Not a lot. They all went away with the development. We took their land. I know. Although Fayette County started out as farms and ranches, it's now mostly industrial and manufacturing towns. Cool. But still a lot of properties sit spread out like farms and ranches once did on a few acres. Okay. So we're rur rural, but we have sorry, that word rural. We're rural. ⁓ my God, why can't I say that? You said it, fine. Yeah. I think it just it's that I don't like the way it feels in my I don't either. ⁓ so people are still a little spread out, but there's a lot of people still. Period. Around ten thirty AM on december eighth, twenty twenty four, Stephen Collins, his wife Wendy Bailey, along with their two year old daughter RyLeigh Collins, were driving down a winding two lane road just a few miles from their home. When Stephen lost control of the car on the wet road, causing him to veer off the road before hitting a tree. Stephen and RyLeigh were ejected from the car and RyLeigh was pronounced dead at the scene. Little girl. Mm-hmm. Stephen and Wendy were alive, but barely. Both were rushed to the hospital in critical condition. Stephen died shortly after arriving at the hospital, but Wendy remains stable in critical condition in a coma. Okay. Now I want to point out that her name is Wendy Pamela Bailey or Pamela Wendy Bailey. I call her Wendy throughout this. She might go by Pam. I don't give a fuck enough about her to really call her by what she prefers, so I'm calling her by Wendy in here. She's in a coma Jackie. We don't give a fuck about her. Say less. Since this was a fatal wreck, an investigation immediately began. And quickly police and investigators noticed that things weren't adding up. ⁓ first off, there were no skid marks on the road. And he was going around a turn. It was determined that he had to been driving ⁓ really fast for that kind of impact. I you the pictures. The car was split in half a It was literally ⁓ sandwiched with a tree. It was eventually determined that Stephen was going ninety miles per hour in a forty five mile per hour road around a curve. The roads were wet and he never hit his brakes. It was also discovered that no one in the car was wearing a seatbelt, including two year old RyLeigh. What? There is I have seen things here there that say Wendy was wearing a seatbelt, but I've also heard a lot that she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I've also seen, but I have not read in court documents. that Steven was drinking, that there was alcohol cans found in the car and other stuff. Okay. But so I didn't I don't wanna like for sure this was that. Yeah. So As police bullet began to notify Wendy and Stephen's family about the crash, they kept getting asked the same question. Is Kahleb okay? What about Kahleb? This is who the fuck is Kahleb? Yeah, this is when police discover that Stephen and Wendy have another child, fifteen month-old Kahleb Collins. Police and investigators immediately go back through the scene of the crash and they're reviewing videos and pictures because when people get ejected out of cars, could go anywhere. Especially a small one and a half year old. They've been I was listening to one podcast and he that the They have found car seats or other things in places they never would have suspected from a car crash. Uh-huh. So they had to go back and make sure they didn't miss him. Uh-huh. Unfortunately, there was no sign of Kahleb anywhere. Then it was discovered that Wendy's dad, John Bailey, became Kahleb's legal guardian after he was removed from Wendy and Steven. But they were all living in the same house, which isn't allowed, but somehow got overlooked in Kahleb's case file. You're already pissing me off, Jackie. So of course the police went straight to the Bailey residence to speak with John. Yeah. After speaking with neighbors and family and John himself, it was determined that Kahleb hadn't been seen for months. To be more specific, September fourth was the last physical sighting of Kahleb, three months before the crash. Okay. Just a few days later, on december eleventh, John Bailey, Kahleb's grandfather and legal guardian, was arrested for failure to report a missing child. On December seventeenth, an emergency missing child alert was issued for Kahleb and investigators searched the family's property for the first time. Why did it take another six days to do that? That is something we've never gotten an answer for and the family has been so the extended family because they all have got a state has been extremely vocal about the fact that they have no idea why it took six days. They arrested him and then it took another. But they discovered Kahleb wasn't was missing, no well nowhere to be found on the ninth. Of December. And it took till the 17th. Make that makes sense. People? They spent three days searching the property. Mm-hmm. Bringing in dogs to assist at one point. They were looking in sheds, culverts, going through burn piles. They were checking everywhere for any sign of Kahleb. ⁓ no. Okay. They unfortunately found no signs of Kahleb. And by December 30th, Fayette County authorities announced that they believe Kahleb Collins is dead and has been for some time. They then announced the arrest of Wendy Bailey and additional charges against John Bailey. God damn. Wendy was charged with aggravated child abuse, first degree domestic violence, abuse of a corpse in relation to Kahleb. She was also charged with criminally neg negligent homicide for the death of RyLeigh. shit. Because she was unbuckled? Mm-hmm. Period. Where did the domestic violence part come in though? I'll explain that. ⁓ The following charges were added to John. Aggravated child abuse, abuse a corpse, first degree domestic violence, and hindering prosecution. Now these first degree domestic violences are going to pertain to Kahleb. It doesn't necessarily like domestic violence just means violence in the home. Yes. It doesn't necessarily mean violence between partners, but that's when we hear it the most. You can get domestic abuse charges thrown in when children are abused as well. They usually I feel like you usually don't hear it when it comes to a child because they automatically go, Child abuse, child neglect, things like that. And they leave out the domestic part of it. I believe the difference is gonna be when it's more than one adult in the home who's responsible for the violence. That's valid. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like the Gabriel Fernandez type shit. I honestly if we went back and looked at those charges, I would bet that domestic was on violence was also on there. But also Alabama, you we've learned that different states have different laws, yes different charges for different things that category things differently. Yeah, we learned that a lot. So those are some pretty intense charges for Kahleb just being missing and presumed dead. Mm-hmm. So let's go over what was discovered during the investigation and releasing these charging documents. Please. Before we I go over this part, I want to give you the opportunity to skip ahead a little bit. I will add a timestamp in the description to skip ahead to. Unfortunately, there is no other way to put what I'm about to say. No, no, Jackie, I can't I can't handle this. No, Jackie, no happened to 15 month old Kahleb is horrific and unimaginable. So please protect your mental health and skip ahead if needed. John Bailey admitted to investigators that on or around september ninth, Kahleb's body was placed in a bag and put in a shed, then ultimately disposed of at an unknown location. While searching Wendy and Stephen's phones, investigators found texts, pictures, and videos between Wendy and Stephen that documented the horrific abuse of Kahleb. Court documents revealed that Wendy failed to intervene on more than two occasions of Stephen physically abusing Kahleb. This physical abuse included being bound with rope and zip ties while being physically assaulted, and being bound with rope from a loft with blood and bruising present, all of which were documented in text to Wendy that she did nothing about. One specific text exchange was highlighted in the court documents. In July, Stephen texted Wendy that he was going to kill Kahleb, followed by photographs of Kahleb hanging from a loft by a rope with blood present on his body. Then another photo of Kahleb, but this time he is laying on his back on the floor with his head looking straight up and he had extreme bruising present on his body. Followed by a message from Stephen that stated He won't move. I'm so sorry. Then another message He moving. He moving? Wendy just simply replied He just looks wore out and tired and hurt. Hopefully that is all. So essentially in these court documents they found a lot of pictures and videos of Stephen hanging Kahleb from different high places in the house, bound by ropes and zip ties, and abusing him and he would send it to Wendy. He was one, you guys. Maybe even younger than that. Yeah. Because this was happening in July, it was right after he turned one. ⁓ so that's why I don't give a fuck. Yeah, no, she's What Wendy wants to wants to go by. ⁓ she's not a mother. No. and I don't understand how you could see something like that and not do something. So in my opinion, the charges aren't enough. No. ⁓ Fuck no. Wendy confirmed John's account of Kahleb being placed in a bag in September. before being stored in a shed for an unknown amount of time. Investigators also discovered a very odd Facebook post made by Stephen. Stephen makes a Facebook post on November 6, 2024. This is a about a month after Kahleb was last physically seen. Claiming that Kahleb is suffering medical issues and will need surgery. Our son and I quote, our son is not doing well. He is not growing and has major back issues. His organs are growing but not his body. He has to have surgery at some point. Keep him in your prayers. There wasn't a GoFundMe attached or a picture, just a status. So is this a guilty conscience? Or trying to cover your ass and make a timeline that he is still alive. I feel like it's a cover your ass this is a CYA incident. Yeah. This doesn't feel like they're in denial by any means. No. April fifteenth, twenty twenty five, a grand jury indicted Wendy on the following charges Aggravated child abuse, four counts of domestic violence in the first degree, and one count of abuse of a corpse. John was indicted on the following charges aggravated child abuse, four counts of domestic violence in the first degree, abuse of a corpse hindering prosecution in the first degree. I want to note that there was zero evidence found that RyLeigh was ever abused. They only ever found evidence of Kahleb being abused, and RyLeigh's autopsy also confirmed this. What? Yeah. I mean, thank God. But also ⁓ What? ⁓ Yeah. I hate to say it again. Gabriel Fernandez, this is exactly what happened. Yeah. It it's something that has I mean, experts have tried to explain for years is why one kid. Yeah. Why that like what about one specific kid, you know? there can be five kids in the house, but there's only one kid that gets treated like this. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. ⁓ So we're definitely not looking at the death penalty for any of these charges. Why the fuck not? Even though all of them could be classified as felonies. It just on they want to like put the charges in for what they're gonna be classified as. ⁓ And none of them hold a death penalty. Jackie in Alabama. Jackie. we don't have any murder charges. Jackie. ⁓ my god, I didn't even realize that. ⁓ We have zero murder charges. Because they don't have a body. no. So in Alabama, the aggravated child abuse and first degree domestic violence are class A felonies, meaning they carry a sentence of ten to ninety-nine years in prison or a life sentence. So they each have four first degree domestic violence on them and they have each have aggravated child abuse. So that's five counts right there of ten to ninety-nine years or life. Okay. Abuse of a corpse is a class C felony carrying a sentence of one year and one day to ten years in prison. Okay. Criminally neg negligent homicide is either a class A misdemeanor or a class C felony, which carries a sentence of one year and one day to ten years in prison, depending on the circumstances. Okay. Hindering prosecution is either a class A misdemeanor or a class C felony, which carries a sentence of up to ten years in prison if applied as a felony or one year in jail as a misdemeanor. So we could get these stacked, but nothing equals life without parole. Correct. District Attorney Hamlin has emphasized that no plea deals have been or will be offered in this case. The prosecution intends to take both defendants to trial and argue for maximum consecutive sentencing, which legally amounts to life without the realistic possibility of parole. I mean that's valid, but I think they could have possibly offered a plea deal to get find out where his body is. Hold on. Additionally, they're trying to get the judge to hold Wendy and John without bond based on Anaya's law. The law allows a judge to deny bail to violent offenders. Ultimately the judge settled on a one point eight million dollar bond. God damn it. Each? Yes. Yuck. This next part should Be shocking for absolutely nobody. How did they bond out? Both Wendy and John have pleaded not guilty by reason of mental dis disease or deep. Those fuckers. Yeah. Ew. Thank you. Ugh. While prosecutors and attorneys were charging ahead in court and making sure everything was moving along, investigators were on a completely different mission. Their mission was to find Kahleb. Yeah. They spent months searching the Bailey property. For those of you not watching, I suggest hopping over to YouTube version or jumping on our website to look at pictures of the property so you have a better idea of how they could be searching for so long. I showed you so many pictures of them searching the property. Yeah. Because what I was showing you pictures of that you didn't know was them sifting through different burn pits on the property and a couple different holes. That buried a singular hole that you said there was nothing in. There wasn't. But finally on May eighth, while sifting through a burn pit on the property, investigators found what they believed to be human remains. They would need to call in an anthropologist to be certain. And the anthropologist confirmed that a portion of what was discovered was in fact human remains. But that's all that could be determined at that time due to the state of the remains. Luckily for us, one of my favorite podcasts, Body Bags. Yeah. Actually has an episode on this. And you guys know I love body bags for anything with remains. She does. if you haven't listened to it, it's hosted by Joseph Scott Morgan. He is actually a professor at Jacksonville University, ⁓ he is so knowledgeable on everything that happens after death and gravesites. I mean, we learned so much about Suzanne Morphew with him. and he does it all in a very digestible way, and his voice is great. ⁓ ⁓ thing he really explained are these burn pits. ⁓ in the south or areas that are really rural, it's not uncommon to have burn pits. You have two different kinds of burn pits. You have brush pits and trash pits. ⁓ the brush pits are burned every couple months, you know, just once they get big enough, and that's when you know ⁓ You invite some people over, you grill, have a little bonfire, just hang out. It's it's kind of like a tradition type thing. Yeah. The trash pits, those get burned more frequently, like once a month. ⁓ mainly because out in these rural areas, they don't have trash that goes out. You know, you take stuff to the dump or you have your burn pits. So it wouldn't be uncommon for some of these properties to have multiple burn pits, multiple ones for brush, multiple ones for trash, different kinds of trash. another thing is is that He was fifteen months old. He was like a wee little baby. He's a little baby. ⁓ the FBI is currently working on identifying the remains. But it's going to be really hard to do because of the severe charring of the remains. They really do need to find tissue. But toddlers' bones are soft, and toddlers have more bones than adults do because their bones fuse together and create what we have as adults. ⁓ ⁓ because their bones are soft still, they break down faster. Yeah. And Honestly, it's gonna be really hard even with a tooth because they are still technically what some consider milk teeth. They're soft. ⁓ yeah. Fifteen months old? ⁓ yeah. Definitely. Babies can start cutting I mean babies come out with teeth sometimes. But they can start cutting teeth around I usually around like eight, nine months. ⁓ So ⁓ the FBI Alabama working on identifying the remains of But honestly The hard reality is is that they may never be able to identify the remains in a way that the court recognizes. Ugh. Unless there's still some soft tissue or something they find where like dental records aren't gonna be a thing for this. No. It's just I doubt they even have dental records for him. And they also don't know in l how many times these burn pits were used after he was put in AI, you know? So What year did this happen? The crash happened in December twenty twenty four. ⁓ okay. So sh just if I can have it. Yeah. Unfortunately, you bet. Due to this and the mental health please, court dates just keep getting pushed and delays after delays. Wendy was supposed to have a hearing on April 13th, 2026, just days before her team filed motions to move the date setting. They have not had enough time to look at evidence. What do you mean? I hate that excuse so much. I hate it when the defense is like, we haven't had enough time to look at everything. Well then just ask your client. Sorry. So her next hearing is set for September 14th, 2026. And this was supposed to be a like a major plea hearing for her as well. Okay. John is also in the same boat, continuing to file motions for extensions and reports from different agencies. Like he's requesting all the DHS reports and this and that and blah blah blah. Which by the way, all the DHS reports have been sealed in this case from the very beginning. The judge sealed that shit as soon as John started requesting it. So we don't even know what the ⁓ because yes, DHS was involved. Obviously Kahleb was removed and given and given to John. And so like John wanted all of that because his charges are relating to that. And the judge was like, Nope, we're not playing this game. And so all of that. So we don't even know why Kahleb was removed. We don't know how many times they were supposed to come out. We don't know what calls came in or any of that. So we don't know what that situation was, like what they knew. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we have no that's okay. So his last hearing he actually had his hearing on April thirteenth. ⁓ And he maintained his plea of not guilty by mental defect. ⁓ It's assumed that his next court appearance will be in September Wendy's is because their dates have been going together. Mm-hmm. So do you have any thoughts before we get into all things Kahleb and RyLeigh and Justice? I'm angry. I'm pissed off. Yeah. Do you see why I debated doing this? Because I saw this headline and it was a car crash. And then the next headline I saw like I saw this major car crash headline. It's a toddler. That wasn't even attached to it yet. I literally saw the car crash headline because I follow this I still follow that news station out of Florida who were still reporting on Gabby Petito because that reporter is so freaking good. I love him. And he posted it. And I was like, okay, whatever. And then a couple days later, I saw the missing toddler post. And I went, no way. And I clicked on it. And then a few months later, I see a headline and it's all missing toddler, presumed dead, child abuse involved. And I went, no way. And then I just slowly was following it until it just and I and I debated because I like, this was a car crushing this, this isn't gonna turn in anything. But then I saw what happened to him and I was like, No, not enough people are talking about this. When you search his name on Apple Podcasts, you get two Nancy Grace blurps and body bags. She only blurped this? It was like in a thing where she talks about a bunch of cases, you know? Yeah. One of those little things. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she only blurped it. So There's like almost nothing out there about him. I'm genuinely surprised because the I feel like Nancy would fucking r whip this woman a new asshole. Yeah, like on Apple Podcasts, I'm sure like on YouTube, like there's some more stuff. ⁓ but yeah, it's more people need to know about this. That's wild. I'm I have so many questions also. Like about the car accident. What? What the fuck happened? So when I was listening to body bags, the other guy that's on there, sorry, I forget your name, but I like you too. ⁓ I think his name's Chris. I'm not gonna lie, I think his name's Chris. he was like, Well, have you ever considered that maybe was suicide from Steven? Because, you know, maybe it was about to be found out as Kahleb, like maybe he was guilty, maybe he this to kill himself because nobody was restrained. It there's things that he was drinking, he very often hit that tree. could this been suicide? ⁓ Or is that giving too much credit to a shitty human being? I feel like that might be giving too much credit to a shitty human being because I mean if they treated RyLeigh so good, why would she also be involved in this then? You know? That doesn't make sense to me. why was Kahleb taken and not RyLeigh? Gotta don't know. DHS DHS Yeah sealed. I bet there's something in there, but I don't Yeah. And I'll and I'm gonna get when we start talking about justice, you also understand why that's still sealed and locked up. I I get it. Because John could prop right. ⁓ no, there's ⁓ I have something else in here with justice that you'll it'll make you happy. This bitch is holding out on us. I am What other questions do you have? I ⁓ I mean, I have a lot. I a of thoughts. ⁓ all I know is I'm angry. ⁓ And ⁓ The other thing I want to say I probably shouldn't say on camera. Okay. So Kahleb Rowan Collins was born on April thirteenth, twenty twenty three, with big blue eyes and strawberry blonde hair, and he had the sweetest smile. And that is unfortunately all that is out there about Kahleb. From pictures, I can tell he loved his big sister and riding a wagon with her. RyLeigh Denise Collins was born on april twelfth, twenty twenty two, making them the sweetest little Irish twins. Like Kahleb, RyLeigh had big blue eyes which stood out next to her brown hair, and RyLeigh loved going fishing, watching Paw Patrol, and of course she loved Mickey a Minnie Mouse. Same girl. It makes me so mad that this is all there is about these two precious babies whose lives were ended way too soon. But I did sa find some light in searching for obituaries and memorial pages for Kahleb and RyLeigh. ⁓ I found that the community held a vigil, ⁓ on January 31st, in honor of Kahleb and RyLeigh. ⁓ Hundreds came out remember these precious souls. ⁓ Yeah, when I that and just the amount of parents going These were two babies. Somebody has to remember them. Like the like we have to. These are babies. I didn't realize they were Irish twins. Which makes us even weirder. It makes their court date on April 13th a little happier. Period. When I saw that, I was like, no shit. Love me some poetic justice. Now, with the Irish twins part, I can see how Kahleb, like, you already have a toddler going through the pregnancy again, going through the newborn stage, while you have terrible twos and you have like sleep regressions and other stuff and if she was potty training, like I understand the amount of stress and so I can see how Kahleb became the mm hmm take it out on. Especially like if RyLeigh was a really good baby and if I'm not saying this is an excuse, but if he was colicky, if he didn't sleep, if know, ⁓ There's a lot that I could see, but it doesn't excuse it. I I hate to say this as well, but I'm gonna throw this out there maybe they tried for RyLeigh and they didn't try for Kahleb and he was just Yeah. A happy little accident and they want it. Yeah. G I wanna did Steven get cremated? I don't know. I didn't care enough to look. I just wanna know to see if I can go find his body and punch it. I do know that Extended Family had to go fund me for RyLeigh to bring her body back to a place in Alabama where they buried her. With the rest of the family. ⁓ because there is extended family. There's grandparents and aunts and uncles who live other states, like the neighboring states, were vocal. Yeah, about vocal and stuff like that. just hadn't they didn't realize because ⁓ Steven was telling friends and that Kahleb was staying with relatives because he was so sick for treatment. And ⁓ he was telling family members Kahleb was staying with friends because he was so sick in treatment. And I fucking hate that. Yeah. I hate that. hate that that is used again and again in cases and I don't know why that doesn't throw bigger red flags at people. Yeah. ⁓ Kahleb and RyLeigh's grandparents, aunts and uncles, like they are just left shocked and confused and angry and asking the same questions. ⁓ did this happen? Why didn't DHS do more after the reports? Mm-hmm. And that's a big question I have too. I wanna know what these reports were too. Kahleb and RyLeigh's families weren't the only ones who were pissed about what was happening and has been happening in Alabama. Dan Newborn runs Missing in USA, a platform that advocates for missing children. He said Kahleb's story inspired him to draft the Kahleb and RyLeigh Collins Act. ⁓ shit. It would allow families to sue child protective service workers in court as well as open the possibility of criminal charges if if abuse reports are ignored and a child is harmed. Something he says Alabama needs. Dan was quoted saying When we were made of made aware of all these cases in regards to child protective services and children being placed in unsafe environments or left in unsafe environments, we found thirteen different cases over a ten year span where children lost their lives, and that's just in Alabama. Holy shit. So we will be following this act as it goes through legislation. Hopefully it does get passed. But not even having the confirmation on Kahleb's body yet, because we still don't, at this point in recording, we still not do have cop confirmation, but gosh. It's assumed. Yeah. That it is. But you know what they say about assuming. Mm-hmm. ⁓ ⁓ just love that somebody is already taking the legal action. Because This right here makes me really wonder what's in those reports. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. I mean, we already have like the big thing with like him being removed and given to the grandpa, but yet them all living in the same house. But I want to know what else is in those reports. Yeah. Because for somebody to already be drafting an act that's not even a part of the family or a part of this in any way whatsoever. He's just in a foundation. That's why I said just wait for the justice part because there there is there is a little bit here. You know what I mean? Like it gives me like the Amber Alerts vibe of like that lady being like, I have to do something. Hell yeah. But yeah, so Some work a little bit better? N no, because I'm still mad, but it's it helps a little bit, but ⁓ 'cause I think actually it's making me more upset thinking like how fucking bad was it that we're doing this. And I mean like and they only gave us that little bit in the court documents, the charging documents, about what it was. Like they didn't go and like they gave I pretty much read verbatim. ⁓ huh. They give details. They g I mean, use your imagination, not that you want to. No. But I can't imagine what they actually found in those phones. Like this trial is going to be hard. ⁓ yeah. And I I hope that as we investigate more, I hope we upcharge or something. I mean, I know we already have them indicted on a grand jury, but I feel for whoever is picked for this jury because the prosecution and the district attorney is hellbent on this going to trial. ⁓ my gosh, those pictures are gonna be horrid. And there's n there's no way any cameras are gonna be allowed in this courtroom. I think they will. I just don't think they're gonna show certain things. Maybe. I think that with this I think that Dan from missing in USA other ones will give enough push. ⁓ hope so. Hey Dan, ⁓ you want a small podcast to join you there, bud? Yeah, I this would be worth taking a trip to Alabama. I'm not gonna lie. I would I would love to stare this bitch down. ⁓ I'll on my best behavior. No you won't. That's like me saying I'll be on my best behavior at Barry Morphe's trial. That one's closer though. Okay, so jury, this is the time to ask you if we got justice. And I will say that justice has not happened. It's definitely loading. It's loading very slowly. We were on dial-up internet in the 90s. But it's it's loading. We have arrest, we have some legislative change that's already trying to push through. Like I said, the district attorney seems hell bent on taking this to trial. So I'm happy with the direction justice is going as long as it continues to go in this direction. Yeah. And that's I think why I ultimately decided to do this case because the more people that talk about it, the more people get outraged over it, the harder it is to plea deal or non trial or you know what I mean? ⁓ But the more people who are top of this, the harder it gets to ⁓ let them ⁓ do something to this live the clock or get lesser charges. Like these innocent kids cannot speak for themselves anymore. Somebody has to now. ⁓ I have ⁓ one silver lining Yes. ⁓ fucking dead. Yes. 1000%. That the one silver lining we have here. ⁓ Based off of what he did. He 100% deserved to die. And that's that's I don't say that shit lightly. No, one thousand percent we are not upset over his death in this whatsoever, and you won't really hear say it that often, but it only sucks because we can't charge him as well. Yeah. We can't make sure that he is put away for this. Mm-hmm. But he also can't hurt anybody else. Period. I am But ⁓ gonna follow this shit. We are. So jury I some questions for you. ⁓ Do you think Wendy and John have a leg to stand on with their mental health, please? Do you think the remains will s be able to be identified in a way that the court will receive it? I don't know. Yeah. I hope so. I pray. I pray that it does. Or at least make it a reason beyond doubt that that's human remains. Yeah. If you suspect child abuse, call the Child Help National Child Abuse Hotline 1-800-422-4453. Or go to www.childhelp.org. calls are toll-free and confidential, and the hotline is available twenty-four seven. And it's in more than 170 languages. Period. So don't ⁓ be afraid to call. Mm-hmm. I saw a thing out of the UK this morning about how overreacting could be enough to save someone. Like you think that this is overreacting or you think this is too much because you know this person or whatever, but like how many kids grow up to say, I wish somebody would have done something? Mm-hmm. Or how many kids grow up to hear relatives say, Well, we knew what was going on, but we couldn't do anything. You can't. You're a fucking adult. Do it. Mm-hmm. Cause I guarantee burning that bridge with that friendship or whatever it is is gonna be worth saving someone's life. Especially a child's life. One thousand percent. So that's that's what I had for you guys today. And and I'm sorry, but everyone needs to know about Kahleb. Fuck yeah. This is mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So, ⁓ I think that we're done with sad child cases here for a moment. ⁓ I will not be doing this for a minute. I felt really bad plugging this after Logan's, but I had to. Yeah. I I had to. This is this is where we're at. We're we're waiting on court dates. We're I need I need more podcasts to pick this up. I need Nancy Grace to get mean. I need more people yelling about this. Yes. So please share this with people. I will have the posts and the pictures up. Please go look. Share any of those posts out there. I do a nice little cover slide that has pictures and it has the little description. people need to know him. And I want to know more about these sweet babies. ⁓ People need to angrier. People are not angry enough right this second ⁓ about ⁓ this. Please angry. Yeah. Yeah, I I need y'all to be mad. ⁓ Mad mad. Mm-hmm. So make sure you are liked, followed, subscribed everywhere so you can continue to be pissed off with us. 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