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Set 1: Three More Wins · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
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Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The rex was
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Speaker 2: not chasing the jeep. Murray Murry, you there, you love sandwiches. Huh,
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Speaker 2: let's go to eighty.
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Speaker 1: He was bo wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had
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Speaker 1: a crush on Betty Rubbell.
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Speaker 3: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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Speaker 3: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night. Although they won
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Speaker 1: the game. You're listening just to Gotson Company.
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Speaker 3: It is te Gotson Company, presented by FanDuel and the
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Speaker 3: FanDuel Sportsbook. Taylor has his Knick jersey on, as he
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Speaker 3: says he has a lot on Wemby the knickser up
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Speaker 3: won to nothing in the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1: This is very exciting.
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Speaker 3: Three wins away from an NBA Championship in New York City.
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Speaker 3: At the Mecca, Taylor said he could carry us until
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Speaker 3: five pm today, and lord knows after yesterday I needed
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Speaker 3: and so Taylor, I am tempted to let you talk
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Speaker 3: here until five pm.
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Speaker 1: But my guess he's saying, bring it up, give me
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Speaker 1: the ball, the rock. So here I am.
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Speaker 3: I'm giving tailor the rock I am Josh Hart and
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Speaker 3: I'm giving the rock to Jalen Brunson. Go ahead, let
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Speaker 3: me know if you need a screen, otherwise, I'll be
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Speaker 3: in the corner.
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Speaker 4: Perfect.
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Speaker 5: I have not been to sleep yet since this game ended.
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Speaker 5: I have probably replayed the full game highlights maybe five times.
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Speaker 5: I'm on about my six rewatch right now. All right,
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Speaker 5: Knicks fans, we used to be in these situations waiting
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Speaker 5: for the worst, not the finals per se, but just
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Speaker 5: waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Speaker 4: Not anymore.
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Speaker 5: And it's because Game one it came down to one
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Speaker 5: simple thing. The Knicks have Jalen Brunson. The Spurs don't.
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Speaker 5: The Spurs, oh, they have Victor wembin Yama. He's unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: He's an alien, he's a unicorn, he's a video game character. Fine,
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Speaker 5: but when there's two minutes left in Game one of
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Speaker 5: the NBA Finals and somebody has to make plays, there's
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Speaker 5: only one person in this series that has earned that
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Speaker 5: level of trust. It's Jalen Brunson. You can feel it.
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Speaker 5: Every Nick fan could feel it. San Antonio knew what
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Speaker 5: was gonna happen. Jalen Brunson walked into San Antonio look,
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Speaker 5: the Spurs dead in the eyes, stole home court advantage.
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Speaker 5: And here's what the rest of the NBA is learning
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Speaker 5: right now. Knicks fans are not surprised by what we're watching.
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Speaker 5: We're nervous. Yes, it's the NBA Finals where the Knicks.
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Speaker 5: After all, we're gonna be nervous. But surprise no, because
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Speaker 5: when Jalen Brunson has the ball late, we expect something
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Speaker 5: good to happen. We spent the better part of almost
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Speaker 5: three decades praying that somebody would save our franchise, and
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Speaker 5: then incomes Jalen Brunson and Stu Gotts. We are three
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Speaker 5: games away.
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Speaker 1: From an NBA so.
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Speaker 3: Much dribbling, and you're eleven hours away from five PM.
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Speaker 1: I thought you could take us till five. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what are you doing?
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Speaker 5: All right, let's open the call lines back Caucus. What
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Speaker 5: do you got.
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Speaker 1: Taylor? I would like to know.
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Speaker 6: I have a few questions for Taylor. This is like
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Speaker 6: Wake and Bacon. First we interviewed Taylor, so go ahead, dude.
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Speaker 1: No, go ahead? Is he I want to go ahead
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Speaker 1: interview Taylor.
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Speaker 3: I want to hear this, but I wanted to get
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Speaker 3: to Mikey saying the game made me realize something about myself.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to. That's a tease. It's a teas.
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Speaker 1: Is he you a Taylor? And we'll get back to
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Speaker 1: Mikey in.
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Speaker 6: Just a second here, all right, Taylor, Jalen Brunson, was
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Speaker 6: it first quarter where he went down with the knee situation?
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Speaker 1: Was that second quarter?
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Speaker 5: I believe it was the first quarter.
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Speaker 3: It was first quarter, it was and second quarter with
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Speaker 3: the ankle, So you're right, okay, so first quarter Jalen
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Speaker 3: Brunson takes that hit.
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Speaker 1: Before you even saw a.
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Speaker 6: Replay, I want to know what your thoughts were when
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Speaker 6: you see him grabbing at his knee and leaving the floor.
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Speaker 5: I was ready to concede the tuititle right.
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Speaker 1: There, yeah, right there in the mall, man, that's all
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Speaker 1: you were feelings. Man.
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Speaker 5: He goes to the bench, He goes to the bench,
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Speaker 5: and then the worst shot you could see as a
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Speaker 5: fan player in the tunnel walking back to the locker room.
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Speaker 5: That shot always makes your heart just drop out of
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Speaker 5: your chest. Once Jalen Brunson came back on the bench
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Speaker 5: and they were looking at his knee there, then I
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Speaker 5: was kind of relieved because you would assume he wouldn't
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Speaker 5: come all the way back to the bench if he
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Speaker 5: wasn't gonna go play. But Jalen Brunson, Man, the only
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Speaker 5: two words you need to say.
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Speaker 3: Today is he I was out walking the dog last
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Speaker 3: night when Brunson went out, and by walking the dog,
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Speaker 3: well you know what.
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Speaker 1: I was doing.
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Speaker 3: And so all I got was a text from from
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Speaker 3: my wife saying Brunson out hurt. I'm just gonna read
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Speaker 3: right off the text exchange here I go.
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Speaker 1: Fuck.
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Speaker 3: She wrote my daughter literally, what the fuck she's invested too?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Abby rights like Aaron Rodgers out first game
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Speaker 3: kind of fuck.
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Speaker 1: Wow man, rad Angel.
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Speaker 3: Writes, OMG, follow by a fuck, and then I wrote back,
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Speaker 3: we're done. Series over. That's a wrap spurs in five.
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Speaker 3: And then I walked back in and Bruntson's playing on
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Speaker 3: the court.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I'm never gonna trust the three
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Speaker 1: of you again, and enough of the f BOMs. And
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Speaker 1: they said we learned him from you, dad. My Mike
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Speaker 1: Ye stole my exact thought.
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Speaker 6: So I saw Jalen leave the floor and I went
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Speaker 6: through the roller coaster. I was like, well, that's the series.
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Speaker 6: This is gonna be boring. And then I saw the
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Speaker 6: replay and I was like, oh, no, I think he
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Speaker 6: just has to go to the bathroom. I think this
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Speaker 6: is a Paul Pierce situation. Bring out the wheelchair. Check
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Speaker 6: that guy's shorts, because he's not really hurt. There's no
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Speaker 6: way that that was that bad where he had to go.
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Speaker 6: So as soon as I saw him back on the
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Speaker 6: on the sideline and I was like, see, this is
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Speaker 6: gonna be Jaalen Brunson's you know whatever, tough it out game.
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Speaker 6: He's gonna be great. And then when I saw the
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Speaker 6: ankle injury, I was like, oh god, because I actually
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Speaker 6: sent Taylor a text and I said Initially I said
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Speaker 6: something like absolute disaster, and then I said, oh, never mind,
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Speaker 6: he's fine. And as I'm sending send on that tailor,
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Speaker 6: that's when he turned his ankle Jalen. And then they
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Speaker 6: showed the replane, it looked like he sort of turned
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Speaker 6: it to the inside, and I was like, that could
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Speaker 6: be really bad. And then he was fine, and so
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Speaker 6: I feel like the Knicks have nothing to worry about
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Speaker 6: for the rest of the series.
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Speaker 1: That was the big scare when the ankle happened. My
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Speaker 1: daughter's just texted, be fuck.
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Speaker 5: I think the ankle one was les Mouths was the
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Speaker 5: ankle one felt less like an injury and more slid
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Speaker 5: that Brunson was upset that it looked like Corneck kind
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Speaker 5: of stepped on his ankle, and the way he got
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Speaker 5: up and reacted towards Scott Fosser was more like, hey,
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Speaker 5: you guys are giving us a pretty bad whistle tonight,
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Speaker 5: like you please please. Like they have a seven foot
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Speaker 5: four guy, he doesn't need every competitive advantage that he
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Speaker 5: can get.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought he spent too much time on
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Speaker 1: the rest last night.
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Speaker 3: No, but is he I mean Cornett, that happens, right,
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Speaker 3: Brunson goes up, he's playing defense, He's trying to stop
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Speaker 3: one of the most unstoppable guys in the NBA, and
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Speaker 3: he comes down at his ankle, and Brunson was upset.
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Speaker 3: But I don't think it was intentional. I don't think
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Speaker 3: he was trying to do that. I think Brunston was
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Speaker 3: just frustrated that he has been hurt not once but
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Speaker 3: twice now in Game one of the NBA Finals, and
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Speaker 3: so he just.
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Speaker 1: Frustrated in that moment.
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Speaker 3: But you're claiming here, and I don't want to gloss
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Speaker 3: over this too quickly, you and Mikey a. You are
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Speaker 3: saying that Jalen Brunson's first injury was not an injury.
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Speaker 3: He simply had to go to the bathroom and use
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Speaker 3: the injury as an excuse to get himself to the bathroom.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't claiming that's what it was.
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Speaker 7: It was when Taylor said, the worst thing you see
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Speaker 7: is when your player is in the tunnel and at
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Speaker 7: that moment, you're just praying it's he's got to take
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Speaker 7: a shit. That's the only like you're just going, oh man,
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Speaker 7: just let this be diarrhea. That's the only thing that'll
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Speaker 7: make this okay.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 6: I'm claiming that's where my thought went because I just
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Speaker 6: knew that that wasn't enough of an injury to get
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Speaker 6: him keep him out of the game. Now, you know,
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Speaker 6: you go to the back. You gotta be careful, you
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Speaker 6: gotta check yourself out. But I would say if he
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Speaker 6: had it, if he would to be honest with himself,
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Speaker 6: he would have said, I didn't need to go back
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Speaker 6: to the locker room.
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Speaker 1: I was fine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mikey, you said that game made me realize something
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Speaker 3: about myself.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to what is that.
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Speaker 7: Thing so Taylor, Have I ever texted you during a
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Speaker 7: Knicks game about anything related to the game.
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Speaker 5: No, not that I know, not that exactly.
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Speaker 7: So last night I probably typed out three texts to you,
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Speaker 7: and they were all kind of rubbing salt in a wound.
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Speaker 7: Like when Jalen Brunson went hurt, I was I had
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Speaker 7: a text typed out that said you better start looking
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Speaker 7: for alien tattoos. I didn't press send. And then later
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Speaker 7: when Jalen Brunson couldn't buy a bucket in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 7: for a while, I was like, this is the guy
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Speaker 7: that's changing your life, but I didn't press send, and
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Speaker 7: I just realized I'm an asshole, Like.
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Speaker 4: I like, I never have.
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Speaker 7: Texted you once, but I'm to sit there and go, ha,
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Speaker 7: he probably needs this right now.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 7: I was able to stop myself from actually pressing sen right.
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Speaker 4: But man, I wish I didn't know that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the alien tattoo because he has a bet with
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Speaker 3: Michelle Beadle. If the Spurs lose this series, Taylor has
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Speaker 3: to get a tattoo. And if the Knicks win the series.
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Speaker 1: I got it wrong.
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Speaker 6: Does about the same thing if the Spurs losing the
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Speaker 6: Knicks win is the same result.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well it's a good point. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: See, I'm tired long night. I mean, seriously, I've been
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Speaker 3: like Taylor. I haven't slut the entire evening because I
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Speaker 3: have watched all the highlights back seven times.
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Speaker 1: He's only watched it five. Wait until he gets the seven.
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Speaker 3: But if the Knicks win, Beatle has to get a tattoo,
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Speaker 3: and if the Spurs win, the Taylor has to get
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Speaker 3: a tattoo. And Mikey wanted to send that textairly thinking
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Speaker 3: the series was over, and he showed.
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Speaker 1: Some restraint, but yes, he is an asshole.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and who needs haters when I've got friends like
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Speaker 5: like mike Ye, who who has been the first person
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Speaker 5: to down play this Knicks run, this entire postseason as
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Speaker 5: a proclaimed Knicks fan. And then the only thing on
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Speaker 5: the menu tonight for mike Ya is some capitulation because
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Speaker 5: the Knicks are three wins away from.
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Speaker 6: Even Hey, so all right, Taylor had his iso, STU
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Speaker 6: had a little time with the ball.
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Speaker 1: Mikey and I had a little time with the ball.
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Speaker 6: Taylor, would you like to continue or would you like
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Speaker 6: to talk some hoops?
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Speaker 1: You want me to fire some questions at you?
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Speaker 5: The last thing I have to say, there has never
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Speaker 5: been a better three point game in NBA history than
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Speaker 5: Josh Hart last night.
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Speaker 1: Oh it was amazing. Yes, and I'll start there.
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Speaker 6: This to me was a Mike Brown type of game,
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Speaker 6: right because he had.
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Speaker 1: To make some decisions.
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Speaker 6: Now, did you realize everybody that Landry Shamman played thirty
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Speaker 6: three minutes, which is more than Michal Bridges, more than
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Speaker 6: Josh Hart, more than ogn and Obie Like he was
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Speaker 6: making some decisions out there, Mike was that was just like, Hey,
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Speaker 6: what's working for us is working and I'm gonna.
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Speaker 1: Stick to it.
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Speaker 6: If you look at like the people that were, you know,
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Speaker 6: available for the Spurs and played well in that series,
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Speaker 6: you had Kelden Johnson off the bench, you had Carter
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Speaker 6: Brian having a couple of moments, you know, Luke Cornett.
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Speaker 6: It feels like in this series the Spurs sort of
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Speaker 6: bench guys, the Carter Bryant, Kelvin Johnson's gonna really have
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Speaker 6: to show me something because he's been you know, sort
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Speaker 6: of unimpressive more often than he has been you know,
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Speaker 6: six Men of the Year type of impressive. But it
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Speaker 6: looks like right now they've only got one guy off
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Speaker 6: the bench they can really rely on, and that's Dylan Harper.
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Speaker 6: And so I look at what Mike Brown is doing,
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Speaker 6: and he's just being smart about it, sort of distributing minutes,
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Speaker 6: keeping things, you know, difficult for the Spurs to figure out.
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Speaker 6: And when you've got the bonus of victor women, ya'ma
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Speaker 6: having a bad game.
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Speaker 1: It just felt like Mike Brown was pulling all the
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Speaker 1: right levers.
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Speaker 5: The two biggest differences between Tibbs and Mike Brown so
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Speaker 5: far have been one the point you just made is
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Speaker 5: he that Mike Brown's willingness to go to the bench
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Speaker 5: and trust a deeper rotation when you get into the
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Speaker 5: playoffs where somebody like Jose Alvarado plays eleven minutes, but
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Speaker 5: the minutes Jose Alvarado gave you we're huge. He hit
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Speaker 5: some big shots. Hit that one layup where he gets
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Speaker 5: the ball to the backboard before Wemby could come over
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Speaker 5: and block that reverse layup. Landry Shamman's been a guy
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Speaker 5: who's been in and out of the rotation at times,
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Speaker 5: but lately in the playoffs, Mike Brown is showing a
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Speaker 5: trust to him. And then the other biggest difference between
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Speaker 5: Tibbs and Mike Brown, which is weird coming from Tibbs,
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Speaker 5: but it felt like the talk with the Tibbs team
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Speaker 5: was you can't win with Jalen Brunson as a defender.
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Speaker 5: Paired with Kat as a defender. They're just two bad
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Speaker 5: defenders and your defense is going to be terrible. Is
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Speaker 5: going to be too terrible combined we're seeing right now.
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Speaker 5: Kat is a pretty good defender, like Cat made Victor
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Speaker 5: Wenbin Yama's night pretty difficult, and Jalen Brunson is in
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Speaker 5: this big liability that people kind of want to make
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Speaker 5: him out to be.
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Speaker 3: Kat is interesting where he just the size and the length.
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it matches up exactly with Wemby, but
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Speaker 3: Kat fancies himself like as a playmaker. I heard them
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Speaker 3: talking about it. Like his frustrations through the first part
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Speaker 3: of his career here has been he hasn't been given
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Speaker 3: the ability or trusted to be more like Djok because
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Speaker 3: that's the kind of player he fancies himself to be.
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he is that kind of player, but
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Speaker 3: he is the size and the length to at least
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Speaker 3: give Wemby some problems, is he and I think that's
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Speaker 3: and he's athletic enough so we could take him out.
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Speaker 1: He can go out with Wemby.
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Speaker 3: He can guard Wemby in a way that few other
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Speaker 3: guys in the NBA can, And at least through one game,
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Speaker 3: it looked pretty good last night.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought Wemby was his own biggest problem last night.
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Speaker 6: I don't think any defender really matters. I think everything
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Speaker 6: you're saying is true, But I think with Wemby's on
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Speaker 6: his game, it doesn't really matter who the defender.
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Speaker 1: Is, right. But I do think this goes a little bit.
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Speaker 6: To Mike Brown too, because you could tell he told
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Speaker 6: Kat hey, you can drive past him, like that's what
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Speaker 6: they wanted Chet Holmgren to possibly do. When he's got
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Speaker 6: Wemby and five of him. You can drive past him.
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Speaker 6: As soon as you get a shoulder past him, you've
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Speaker 6: got the big body. He's not going to recover. And
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Speaker 6: he did that a couple of times. But this is
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Speaker 6: where my thoughts come in with Wenby, and I don't
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Speaker 6: know whether this means.
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Speaker 1: He can figure this out in this series.
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Speaker 6: I don't know whether this means it's something that's going
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Speaker 6: to be, you know, down the road and improving for him.
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Speaker 1: But you already see like body type.
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Speaker 6: And I know you are happy to see this, Taylor,
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Speaker 6: but like you stand him next to Mitchell Robinson and
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Speaker 6: just their hips or their asses or whatever you want
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Speaker 6: to look like.
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Speaker 1: It's like Mitchell's twice the size of Victor.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know og Annobi is just the way
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Speaker 6: thicker than Victor Webbinyama. A lot of bodies able to
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Speaker 6: push him around what Victor wen bin Yama needs. And
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Speaker 6: this is crazy to say because he's seven foot four
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Speaker 6: and he does everything on the basketball court.
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Speaker 1: Man, get yourself a post game.
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Speaker 6: Get yourself first of all inability to just sit in
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Speaker 6: the post and not get pushed around. But when you
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Speaker 6: get the ball, even if it's in the mid or
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Speaker 6: you know, deep posts or high post, have something in
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Speaker 6: your repertoire. He just doesn't have it yet. Whether that's
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Speaker 6: because he doesn't have the strength to stay there and
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Speaker 6: he gets bullied, or he's so talented that he just
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Speaker 6: hasn't picked a go to right in the post.
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Speaker 1: And I think if he thinks.
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Speaker 6: And it's funny because I was talking with my trader
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Speaker 6: about this yesterday during the day, that's all we were saying,
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Speaker 6: it's lights out if that dude has any sort of
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Speaker 6: post game, and you would think at seven four of
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Speaker 6: me the first thing he developed, and he probably does
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Speaker 6: have a postgame, but he's not that strong, and so
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Speaker 6: if he can just plant his butt in the post
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Speaker 6: and make things difficult for the Knicks, it's gonna be
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Speaker 6: an entirely different defensive game plan for the Knicks, and
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Speaker 6: I don't think they would have an answer for that.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are thinking that last night,
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Speaker 3: like Wemby, get closer to the basket, get a post game.
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Speaker 3: You're too thin, put on some weight, grow into your body.
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Speaker 3: He can't control some of that. Some of that just
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Speaker 3: comes with time, it comes with age. The postgame he
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Speaker 3: can't control. And yet he doesn't have one, or maybe
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Speaker 3: he does and we're just not seeing it. I am
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Speaker 3: so hesitant to do what it is we're doing because
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Speaker 3: it's one game, and I'm criticizing Wemby and we call
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Speaker 3: him an alien, and I'm afraid to say anything bad
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Speaker 3: about him because I like, if I do, he's gonna
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Speaker 3: come back and put forty two and twenty two on
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Speaker 3: my face next in game two, and the Knicks will
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Speaker 3: be tied at one game apiece headed back to the Mecca.
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Speaker 3: I like where I am right now. I don't need
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Speaker 3: to give Wemby any sort of advice. Just keep doing
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Speaker 3: what you're doing. Wemby, Okay, just.
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Speaker 1: Keep doing play thirty feet from the basket. I love it.
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Speaker 1: Or at one nothing, three games from an NBA.
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Speaker 5: Championship, I'll balance it out for you, Stu.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Wemby is already the best defensive player ever, I think
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Speaker 5: in NBA history, because there's the Knicks go through stretches
16:32
Speaker 5: in that game where they looked like they were terrified
16:35
Speaker 5: to try to even come close to the basket. You
16:37
Speaker 5: see Ogn and Obi have a pretty clean look, but
16:40
Speaker 5: he alters the way he's shooting it because he just
16:44
Speaker 5: thinks of Wembinyama, with like a ten plus foot wingspan,
16:48
Speaker 5: could get to the ball, and I think he either
16:51
Speaker 5: airballed it or hit front rim. Wembin Yama's impact on
16:56
Speaker 5: the defensive end is unlike anything we've ever seen before.
17:01
Speaker 5: And there was that moment when the Knicks go up
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Speaker 5: eight and it's just offensive possession after offensive possession after
17:08
Speaker 5: offensive possession where they're really not getting anything clean towards
17:11
Speaker 5: the basket before Brunton kind of took over with his
17:14
Speaker 5: shot making, where it's like the Spurs might actually do
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Speaker 5: this just because of how tough Webbin Yama makes it
17:21
Speaker 5: for the Knicks offensively.
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Speaker 6: Well, the interesting part to me is you just like,
17:25
Speaker 6: first of all, I do want to know. Actually, let
17:27
Speaker 6: me start there, what was it like in your house, Taylor,
17:29
Speaker 6: when the Knicks were down fourteen in the third quarter,
17:32
Speaker 6: Because I'm guessing you were you were pretty bummed.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was already onto game two.
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Speaker 5: We just we just had to get.
17:43
Speaker 4: Watched in the tape.
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Speaker 3: It's amazing in the third quarter he was onto the
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Speaker 3: game too, and yet he's spent. The end result is
17:51
Speaker 3: he stays up all night watching the highlights on a loop.
17:54
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable.
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Speaker 6: The think about the Wemby stuff in Karl Anthony Towns is, yes,
17:58
Speaker 6: Wemby can get better, and yes, Wenby is a dominant
18:02
Speaker 6: defensive player and the Knicks don't really know what to
18:04
Speaker 6: do against him. But Karl Anthony Towns might have found
18:06
Speaker 6: some things not only just being able to drive past
18:09
Speaker 6: them if he's on the perimeter, but the offensive rebounding,
18:12
Speaker 6: like yes, he's basically staying between the paint and Josh Hart,
18:17
Speaker 6: Josh Hart if he's not shooting it well, but that
18:19
Speaker 6: just sets up Karl Anthony Towns for offensive rebounds. He
18:21
Speaker 6: got a couple of huge offensive rebounds during the Knicks
18:24
Speaker 6: comeback run there, And I just feel like Carl kind
18:27
Speaker 6: of knows where he can affect the game. And so
18:30
Speaker 6: if they can keep Victor wembin Yama struggling, if they
18:32
Speaker 6: can somehow keep that three point shooting down, because the
18:36
Speaker 6: Spurs only shot twenty six percent from three, then yeah,
18:39
Speaker 6: they're gonna be able to win this series. But right now,
18:40
Speaker 6: when you look at them winning by ten on the road,
18:43
Speaker 6: but they only shot forty one percent from the field
18:45
Speaker 6: and thirty one from three, Like, I don't know how
18:47
Speaker 6: many of these games are going to get away with,
18:49
Speaker 6: Like the Spurs are going to figure something out.
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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be too confident.
18:53
Speaker 5: And I don't want to give the Spurs coach any
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Speaker 5: advice or any tips. But when I'm watching that game, yes.
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Speaker 1: Sure he's listening.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dylan Harper led the Spurs and scoring through three quarters.
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Speaker 1: He seems like playing the fourth yeah, one point.
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Speaker 5: Game and he got bench with four minutes left.
19:11
Speaker 1: What what happened? Again, this is why I feel like this.
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Speaker 3: Hold on a second, is he hold on? What is
19:15
Speaker 3: the advice keep Dylan Harper in the game. I'm just wondering,
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Speaker 3: in case the coach is listening, what is the advice.
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Speaker 5: Your best player at driving to the basket? Yeah, he's
19:26
Speaker 5: probably a good asset in a one point game in
19:28
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 6: He has looked more and more often like Victor Winbinyama's
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Speaker 6: main sidekick, like Stefan Castle has sort of taken on
19:36
Speaker 6: that role. And you know, Vassell has had a couple
19:39
Speaker 6: of good games, Champagne's had a couple of.
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Speaker 1: Good shooting games.
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Speaker 6: But it feels like, because of all the turnovers from
19:43
Speaker 6: Stefan Castle, that Dylan is the more reliable ball handler.
19:46
Speaker 6: And I'm with you, man, like I already I know
19:48
Speaker 6: you don't want to, you know, put him in the
19:49
Speaker 6: starting line up ahead of Darren Fox or Devin Vessel.
19:52
Speaker 6: But if he's out there and he's cooking, Like, why
19:55
Speaker 6: are you leaving Darren Fox out there when he's three
19:56
Speaker 6: for thirteen and not playing very well?
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Speaker 1: Like I'm good with Dylan Harper, I trust him.
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Speaker 3: Is he just going back to the next performance because
20:03
Speaker 3: it wasn't a great performance. They really had no business
20:05
Speaker 3: winning that game on the road, and they won that
20:07
Speaker 3: game on the road, and they're up won to nothing.
20:10
Speaker 3: I would say what the Spurs got just based on
20:13
Speaker 3: how the Knicks have played here throughout the postseason.
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Speaker 1: They played as well.
20:16
Speaker 3: As any team could possibly play in the postseason here.
20:19
Speaker 3: You could talk about who they played, but it doesn't
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Speaker 3: matter now they're in the NBA Finals. I would say
20:24
Speaker 3: what the Spurs got last night was like the knickt
20:26
Speaker 3: C game. And so you're saying that the Spurs, hey,
20:30
Speaker 3: they'll figure something out, maybe this series will be closed
20:32
Speaker 3: and the Knicks won't win it in four or five,
20:34
Speaker 3: and I'm saying, no, the Knicks didn't even play that
20:37
Speaker 3: well and they won by double digits on the road.
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Speaker 6: Okay, I mean, look, I get I get all of that,
20:42
Speaker 6: and I just don't think that you're going to be
20:44
Speaker 6: able to limit the Spurs at thirty six percent shooting
20:46
Speaker 6: in every game. I don't think you're going to limit
20:48
Speaker 6: Darren Fox and Victor weibin Yama combined for nine for
20:51
Speaker 6: thirty four. Like, I think there's going to be some
20:54
Speaker 6: shot making from the Spurs, and that's going to bounce
20:56
Speaker 6: some things out.
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Speaker 1: I am curious, I'm sorry, go ahead to is.
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Speaker 5: He Is there any concern? We saw this in the
21:01
Speaker 5: the Cleveland series where Cleveland not to the extent that
21:05
Speaker 5: we saw last night, but Cleveland chokes away a lead,
21:08
Speaker 5: the Knicks have this miraculous comeback, and then there was
21:11
Speaker 5: almost that sense in game one like, oh, this Cavs
21:14
Speaker 5: team is just not gonna be able to recover from this,
21:17
Speaker 5: or or is the Spurs team so young that it's
21:20
Speaker 5: almost to their to their benefit, where it's like these guys,
21:24
Speaker 5: they're they're just gonna be able to shrug this one
21:26
Speaker 5: off and get ready for game two.
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Speaker 1: I think there's that. I think there's you know, a
21:30
Speaker 1: lot of.
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Speaker 6: This game felt like it looked a little bit like
21:35
Speaker 6: the Spurs were tired. It looked like Victor Wimbinyama just
21:39
Speaker 6: didn't have I mean, compare him in this game one
21:41
Speaker 6: and you can say it's the result. You can say
21:43
Speaker 6: the shots aren't going in, so that's why he wasn't
21:45
Speaker 6: acting this way. But compare this game one to the Okay,
21:47
Speaker 6: see game one. He was on a mission in that
21:50
Speaker 6: Oka see game one.
21:51
Speaker 1: He was the whole, you know, the posing after.
21:53
Speaker 6: The big block like he that was his statement game
21:57
Speaker 6: more so than any other game in these playoffs. Last
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Speaker 6: night just looked like another game for him.
22:02
Speaker 1: Right early on.
22:02
Speaker 6: Dylan Harper's the one being aggressive, and when he's missing shots,
22:05
Speaker 6: he's Wen Benyama's missing shots. He's kind of not being
22:08
Speaker 6: as aggressive offensively, and the turnovers aren't great, you know,
22:11
Speaker 6: when he's trying to go through the lane and this
22:13
Speaker 6: because he's so long, anybody can sort of get his
22:15
Speaker 6: hands on him when he's dribbling in the paint like that,
22:17
Speaker 6: and so yeah, it just felt like he didn't have
22:20
Speaker 6: that same fire. If you read those quotes after game one,
22:25
Speaker 6: you're going to see a different version of Victor Wenbinyama.
22:27
Speaker 6: You're gonna see Karl Anthony Towns in my opinion, in
22:29
Speaker 6: foul Trouble. You're gonna see Mitchell Robinson, you know, get
22:31
Speaker 6: attacked on the offense, on the defensive end and see
22:34
Speaker 6: what they can do. So I think, yeah, it's a
22:37
Speaker 6: combination of their young enough where their rebound is going
22:40
Speaker 6: to look like an entirely different group. But it does
22:44
Speaker 6: require Victor Wenbinyama to hit some shots to you know,
22:47
Speaker 6: not turn the ball over and for you know, those
22:50
Speaker 6: guys around him to hit some three pointers to open
22:52
Speaker 6: up the lane for him, because if they're not hitting shots,
22:54
Speaker 6: it's going to be ugly for the series.
22:55
Speaker 3: Maybe, as he was right, being on the road for
22:57
Speaker 3: Game one was the best thing that could have ever
22:59
Speaker 3: happened to the name.
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Speaker 1: He said that yesterday on the radio show.
23:01
Speaker 3: They see you know, both teams for me early on
23:04
Speaker 3: at least they it felt like they were playing so quickly.
23:07
Speaker 1: The game was moving so fast.
23:09
Speaker 3: And I know that's kind of kind of common when
23:11
Speaker 3: you play in the NBA Finals and that first game
23:13
Speaker 3: and the adrenaline and all.
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Speaker 1: That stuff's going.
23:16
Speaker 3: But I was actually thinking about what you said and
23:18
Speaker 3: the fact that you just pointed out Wemby's, you know,
23:20
Speaker 3: Wemby's snature signature moment here in the postseason was on
23:24
Speaker 3: the road in Game one in Oklahoma City. Perhaps there
23:27
Speaker 3: is something to being more relaxed when you play on
23:30
Speaker 3: the road in game one as supposed to be as
23:32
Speaker 3: opposed to.
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Speaker 1: Playing get home in Game one.
23:34
Speaker 3: But Wemby did seem like the like the game and
23:37
Speaker 3: the moment was moving very quickly.
23:39
Speaker 6: For you know, I wouldn't say that if it was
23:41
Speaker 6: like the Indiana Pacers, right, But the Knicks at MSG,
23:44
Speaker 6: that's a different animal, Like, it feels different there. And
23:47
Speaker 6: for them to be on the road in San Antonio again, yeah,
23:50
Speaker 6: the most intimidating place despite their history.
23:52
Speaker 1: I think it worked out well for them.
23:55
Speaker 5: You mentioned you mentioned MSG, and before game one, the
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Speaker 5: cheapest tickets were about like fifty five hundred.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, let's guess. Let's guess cheapest ticket right now. Yeah,
24:07
Speaker 1: so it was fifty five hundred going into game one.
24:09
Speaker 6: So now that they've won game one, Game two would
24:11
Speaker 6: assume skyrocketing.
24:12
Speaker 1: So they're coming back.
24:13
Speaker 3: And by the way, this is why game two is
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Speaker 3: the most important game in the series. The Spurs lose
24:17
Speaker 3: this game, the series that wrapped that game is over,
24:19
Speaker 3: So the Knicks are going to come back either up
24:21
Speaker 3: to oh or tied at one game of piece.
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Speaker 1: So the tickets of skyrocketed.
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Speaker 3: Here, you said fifty five hundred was the cheapest ticket
24:27
Speaker 3: before last night.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so lazy.
24:30
Speaker 3: Let's take a guess here, Mike, yea, let's guess here,
24:32
Speaker 3: what do you think the cheapest ticket to the Mecca
24:34
Speaker 3: is for Game three? Knicks are guaranteed to come back
24:38
Speaker 3: one to one or we're up.
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Speaker 1: To Oh, Mike, yeah, I'll start with you. It's going
24:42
Speaker 1: to be expensive. Just so we're clear, I'm going.
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Speaker 7: To say sixty two hundred, and I will also say
24:51
Speaker 7: and I will also say, I'll bet you game four
24:53
Speaker 7: is even more expensive.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the possibility of the closeouts, right, No, no, no,
25:01
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like that's the thought. Like, you win
25:03
Speaker 4: game one, you're like.
25:04
Speaker 1: Hey, no, I could be there, Yes, I could be there.
25:08
Speaker 1: Is he he's at sixty two hundred. What do you
25:10
Speaker 1: think it's got to be at five figures? I think it.
25:13
Speaker 1: Let's just go ten thousand, five hundred dollars. Okay, I'm
25:15
Speaker 1: gonna go ten thousand, five hundred and one.
25:19
Speaker 3: Who's the closest tailor without going over split the difference
25:23
Speaker 3: between you both between all three of you eighty two hundred.
25:29
Speaker 1: So by the time the game starts, it'll be a
25:31
Speaker 1: rand Oh no, no doubt about it.
25:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:34
Speaker 5: If the Knicks win game two, right, that's that's gonna
25:37
Speaker 5: be a mortgage.
25:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:39
Speaker 4: Yes, what's the price for game four?
25:43
Speaker 1: Oh, it's got to be.
25:44
Speaker 3: It's got because you're right, Mikey Once once Nick fans
25:47
Speaker 3: are like, hey, I could be in the building for
25:49
Speaker 3: the thing for them winning a title that.
25:52
Speaker 1: Get now listen, it could very well go five games
25:54
Speaker 1: and the Nicks end up winning it on the Spurs home.
25:56
Speaker 3: Gorge thinks for people who are buying those tickets, But
25:59
Speaker 3: you're right, Game four has to be skyrocketing right now, Taylor,
26:02
Speaker 3: the fans are getting cocky. I'm talking about prices for
26:04
Speaker 3: Game four. Jesus Christ Taylor.
26:07
Speaker 6: The clutch, the historic and if they win this series,
26:13
Speaker 6: probably his signature shot right now, that Jalen Brunson shot.
26:17
Speaker 6: How many times have you seen it in slow mo?
26:20
Speaker 6: And then how many times have you laughed at him
26:22
Speaker 6: slipping cartoonishly on the floor twice before he came back
26:26
Speaker 6: to the other side.
26:28
Speaker 5: The crazy thing is there were so many shots that
26:30
Speaker 5: I don't even know which shot you're talking really, the dag,
26:34
Speaker 5: the one with under a minute left.
26:36
Speaker 6: I believe it was under a minute left, hang on,
26:38
Speaker 6: I got to look at the time, but it was
26:40
Speaker 6: who was the defender there?
26:43
Speaker 3: The ball was under a minute as he's a shot
26:45
Speaker 3: that it's a basket that put him up six?
26:46
Speaker 1: It made it was the dagger.
26:48
Speaker 6: It was yeah, it was sort of pivot, pivot and
26:50
Speaker 6: then sort of stepped through and sort of hit and
26:52
Speaker 6: if you look at the shot hit, no rim, just
26:54
Speaker 6: an absolute clean. He fell to the ground and as
26:56
Speaker 6: he was complaining to the rest on his way back,
26:58
Speaker 6: twice slipped on a sweat spot.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I love that play. I've watched it countless times.
27:04
Speaker 5: My favorite play though, down one, Brunson somehow gets the
27:08
Speaker 5: offensive rebound. He tips in, the bridges, bridges back to
27:11
Speaker 5: brunts in, and then you get the Mike Breen bang
27:14
Speaker 5: where you go from down one to up to stu.
27:18
Speaker 5: I saw this stat line fro from Josh Hart. Yeah,
27:22
Speaker 5: fifteen rebounds, six assists, four steals, the first player since
27:28
Speaker 5: Larry Bird to reach those numbers in a finals game.
27:31
Speaker 3: Wow, Larry legend. I mean, how about that? How many
27:35
Speaker 3: points did Bird have in that game? Because I'm guessing
27:37
Speaker 3: he had twenty seven.
27:38
Speaker 5: You probably had more than three.
27:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't have three.
27:42
Speaker 1: Put it on the pole, Taylor.
27:43
Speaker 3: Is that the best game a guy who has scored
27:46
Speaker 3: three points has ever had? Because I think I'm with you.
27:49
Speaker 3: He does the little things. He's a glue guy. I
27:51
Speaker 3: love that guy, and I love this team, and I
27:54
Speaker 3: am so excited that we are three games away from
27:56
Speaker 3: an NBA title. Hopefully, But is he what do you
27:59
Speaker 3: expecting here? By the way I meant to ask you,
28:01
Speaker 3: is he is that I've never seen? Maybe maybe I'm
28:05
Speaker 3: prisoner of the moment, but the shiftiness of Jalen Brunton
28:09
Speaker 3: on a basketball court, his ability to move side to
28:12
Speaker 3: side so quickly, I'm wondering for you if there's a
28:15
Speaker 3: cop to Jalen Brunton, because he's about a shifty as.
28:17
Speaker 1: You get on a basketball court.
28:20
Speaker 3: I'm just surprised no one saw this incredible talent and
28:23
Speaker 3: what he could be when he was with Dallas or
28:26
Speaker 3: when he was coming out of Villanova, because it's hard
28:29
Speaker 3: not to see it when you see him play.
28:30
Speaker 1: He is so quick and so shifty.
28:33
Speaker 3: With the basketball in his hands, and I'm not certain
28:35
Speaker 3: I've ever seen someone like that, maybe Iverson, maybe Iverson right.
28:39
Speaker 6: So first of all, yeah, it was the shot with
28:41
Speaker 6: thirty eight thirty seven seconds left, and it was against
28:43
Speaker 6: Devin Vessel, and it was just and it was a
28:46
Speaker 6: perfect example of what I was about to explain right now.
28:48
Speaker 6: To answer your questions too, it is he is not
28:51
Speaker 6: the shiftiest guard. He is shifty enough, like he is good,
28:55
Speaker 6: he's high quality like in the nineties if you're rating
28:57
Speaker 6: it in that department. But it's a combination of all
29:01
Speaker 6: of the skills that he is good at. He's great
29:03
Speaker 6: at handles, he's great, he's obviously shiftiness. He's great at
29:07
Speaker 6: immediate decision making. While he's taking you off the dribble,
29:10
Speaker 6: he sees you move a little bit to the left.
29:12
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to the right. I might not even
29:14
Speaker 1: be that open.
29:15
Speaker 6: But if I've got you now again leaning to the
29:18
Speaker 6: other side heavily, boom, I'm gonna cross it back over.
29:20
Speaker 6: He's got the ball in a string all the times.
29:22
Speaker 6: He's watching you at all times, and I think probably
29:25
Speaker 6: the best footwork of a guard that I can think of,
29:29
Speaker 6: outside of Kyrie Irving.
29:30
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving's just a god.
29:31
Speaker 6: But you combine all those things and he will always
29:35
Speaker 6: find a shot. Even that shot against Vicelle Taylor. That
29:38
Speaker 6: was a difficult ass shot with like a step through
29:42
Speaker 6: falling to his right, and again no rim on that shot.
29:45
Speaker 6: So it's all of those things Stu's he is shifty
29:48
Speaker 6: as hell, not the shiftiest in the world. He is
29:50
Speaker 6: a shot maker, he is a great again, great handles,
29:53
Speaker 6: But it's all right here between the ears.
29:56
Speaker 1: Everything his dad has taught him over the years, has.
29:58
Speaker 6: Just become like on almost the perfect point guard in
30:02
Speaker 6: terms of how he sees the game as a scorer,
30:04
Speaker 6: which is crazy because he's a point guard. But you
30:06
Speaker 6: think he's had all these great passes and everything else,
30:08
Speaker 6: but that part of his game you don't really see
30:10
Speaker 6: flashy assists. But I don't really care because he's always going.
30:13
Speaker 1: To get me a good shot. No, you're right. He knows.
30:15
Speaker 1: He's smart. He's smart. He's the son of an NBA
30:17
Speaker 1: player who taught him very very well. He is shifty,
30:20
Speaker 1: but he also knows.
30:21
Speaker 3: He knows angles, he knows how to use his body,
30:24
Speaker 3: he knows how to draw fouls, he knows how to
30:26
Speaker 3: lean in, he knows how to get himself a little time,
30:28
Speaker 3: a little space.
30:29
Speaker 1: To get his shot off.
30:30
Speaker 3: Where he knows the little things, and those little things
30:32
Speaker 3: are vastly important to being a great offensive player.
30:35
Speaker 1: Kind of like Larry Bird.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, changed my life.