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Personal Defense Lessons From The News, Holiday Shopping Dos and Don'ts · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Five minutes past the hour. It is the first show in the month of
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November, Show thirty nine of The Morning Show with Preston Scott. That's Grant
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Allen over there in Studio one A. I'm here in Studio one B.
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I'm joined by co founder Talent Training Group, co host Talent Outdoors, and
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my friend Jad Johnson. Hello, sir, good morning. I think there's
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three of us here together now that love the season. Man put my jacket
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on this morning. Hey, yeah, buddy, this makes me happy.
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Yes, sir, we've been talking about and you heard coming in, we
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were discussing the trial of Charlie Edelson, and I just want to touch on
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what happened to Dan Markel being surveilled and finding himself unprepared and he was killed
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as a result of it. But it seems to me that in the nine
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years that have happened, we're seeing more people being followed home, not necessarily
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for those reasons and all of that. But you know, we were talking
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about, you know, most people don't have a reason to think that they'll
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be targeted, right They don't until they are, until until it's too late.
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You know, It's it's kind of easy to uh, it's easy and
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pleasant to be oblivious, uh to things like that. You know, we
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we would we would all rather just not even think about evil existing in the
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world. That's a that's a pretty happy existence. Unfortunately, it's also uh
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it's fantasy. It's a fantasy world. You know, they're there are evil
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people in the world that do bad things for a lot of different reasons.
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But most of the time it's not a professional hit, you know, like
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in the Mark Mark. Ok. It's it's greed or them wanting to take
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what you have. That's that's the primary, you know, the primary reason
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for a lot of those crimes that you're talking about where somebody gets followed home
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from the bank or followed home from a shopping trip where they walked out of
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them all from they want what you just bought at the store, they want
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your money. You know. Home invasions, we see a lot of those
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now they you know, they want the drugs. There are a lot of
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times home invasions are you know, involving the drug trade. So that's the
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primary cause of this stuff. But people that are going about their daily lives
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and going to the bank and taking out cash for the weekend, or or
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you know, going to the bank from their store or whatever to deposit large
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sums of cash. That's those times like that when you're obviously, whether intentionally
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or by necessity, displaying wealth, you better be paying attention because if you
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do it often enough and you become predictable enough, somebody else is The more
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you do it, the more likely somebody else is going to notice it and
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pay attention to it. And that's putting yourself You're you're putting yourself in a
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bad situation. When someone makes the decision that they need to take more responsibility
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for their personal safety and that of their family, what are the first obstacles
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that they have to overcome? You know? The I think the first obstacle
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is having the having the mentality too. It's difficult for a lot of people
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to come to realization that they may have to hurt somebody else. Does that
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makes sense? It's it's a mental it's a mental thing that a lot of
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people have a hard time dealing with it that I you know, I just
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don't know that I could ever hurt somebody else to protect myself. And that's
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a that's that's human nature. We're not we're not programmed to beol towards one
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another. In nature, Can a sheep become a sheep dog? Absolutely,
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it's just a matter of the sheep waking up sometimes. You know, I'm
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saying, I'm not. I realize that I'm a sheep, and I need
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to I need to grow some teeth, you know that. And I need
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to be able to take care of myself. As a long term law enfessment
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enforcement professional, you still interact and intersect with the industry all the time with
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former colleagues. Is it fair to say, yes, we've always had sin,
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we've had evil, et cetera, et cetera, but it is more
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prevalent now. I think it's fair to say that in today's world. I'm
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just and that's just from my personal experience. It's it's you know, there
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is less value on human life right now, at this time, at this
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moment in time, moment in history. There's probably we haven't seen this low
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of a value on human life in hundreds, if not thousands of years.
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And that's all over the world. That's not just that's not just us,
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that's that's look look at the news. I mean, there is just so
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little value placed on on human life and the moral fibers of our world have
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started to loosen up so bad that it's just, you know, it's it's
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it's I hate it. It's not the world I want my kids to live
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in or to leave behind. But that's where we are back with Jade Johnson
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of the Talent Training Group again. Talent Outdoors. All kinds of ways to
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interact and oh, by the way, in the month of November, we
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do have a fifth Wednesday, which means Q and A and uh and so
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we'll have an opportunity to take calls. You guys need to talk about that
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on the show the week before. Yeah, that if you want to ask
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us questions, here we go. We have to have both of you asking
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a lot of us. We got to have both of you in on that
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Wednesday because you guys don't get to take calls. You have to guess,
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but you don't get to take calls. And I think it would be hilariously
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fun. I think we had to do it. I'm down all right.
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The shooting in Maine, as you and I have discussed off air, lots
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of questions, lots of questions. We'll just leave that there. What others
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have pointed out, though, is that It's interesting. Maine is, surprisingly
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being in the northeast, a very gun friendly state, open carry, constitutional
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carry the whole nine yards, and a lot of folks in that state know
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how to handle a firearm, very prevalent there. But no one in two
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different locations was either prepared or was carrying because liquor was served, I believe
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in both of those locations. Yep. And that's you know, that makes
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it a soft target no matter how you cut it. Now, I'm not
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saying we should allow open carry in the bars. What about concealed carry in
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the bars? You know, because bad guys are gonna do whatever they're gonna
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do. Are But then you're also running the risk of mixing alcohol and firearms,
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and that's never a good idea either. No, buts let's go to
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the butt thing, because here's what I've said. I don't go to those
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types of places. But there are restaurants that serve alcohol, and you can
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be sitting in a chili somewhere having a meal and the bar is right there.
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So by law, you're not supposed to carry correct incorrect, No,
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you can sit in the restaurant, you can go to chili's armed conceal carry
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sit not at the bar and order dinner. Perfectly legal. You can't sit
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at the bar at Chili's. But the way chilis using Chili's as the example,
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they have half of the thing as a restaurant, but the other half
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they have tables and they serve food right by the bar. That's correct,
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and so that's okay. You're fine not sitting in the bar section. So
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you ask the hostess, can I please sit on this side? You don't
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have to give her an explanation. I don't want to sit over there.
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I want to sit over here. I don't want to sit at the bar.
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Or you take an Applebe's or something that kind of has the bullpen in
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the middle, or well, that's what I'm saying, because well, for
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example, there are restaurants that are closing that half the food the restaurant half,
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and they're serving food in the bar half because they don't have enough staff
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eat somewhere else. I mean, that's just that. But if I can't,
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if I can't carry in the restaurant, I'm not going to go to
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the restaurant. So you can't see I would go ahead and carry or that
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and make an explanation that hey, I'm not sitting at the bar having a
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drink. I'm sitting at the table because the other side closed. Yeah,
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because the other side was closed, and I'm drinking sweet tea. Because the
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spirit of that law is to keep somebody from walking in a bar sober,
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carrying a gun and getting getting plowed at the bar. And now you're armed,
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and your faculties are not all with you, and you're armed, and
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that's not a good idea. So you're okay with there being a prohibition inside
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an establishment that is a bar, Well, yeah, i am, because
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that's generally why people go to the bar is to drink, and a lot
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of people drink to excess. And even if they're not drinking to excess,
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you have to admit you don't drink, but your faculties or inhibitions are lowered.
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Your faculties are lessened, and your decision making is usually not great.
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And as inspiramuto watching others, their bravery index goes up. Yeah, you
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get ten foot there's a reason ten foot tall and bulletproof is a saying,
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So you know, So it's just it's a bad idea, and just don't
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put yourself in the situations that's that's easy. That's an easy out. WU
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Defense segment here in the Morning Show with Preston Scott first and third Wednesdays,
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and when there's a fifth we do a little Q and A. So we
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got we got all three of them this week or this month. We've got
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J. D. Johnson here, Charlie Strickland in the next visit. And
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then hopefully if I can twist their arms, both of them when our fifth
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Wednesday rolls around. But a couple more stories in the news. I was
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sharing the story with you in Portland road rage incident. Guy taps on a
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guy's window because he's blocking traffic and he finally kind of gets fed up with
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it, and the guy rolls down the window shoots him in the chest.
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Another guy witnessing it comes out videotapes the shooter. He gets shot. So
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the good news is we've got someone arrested. The bad news is this was
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all over somebody tapping somebody on his windows saying hey move yeah. Yeah,
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that's that's obviously from the story you read read to me there on the on
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the break. That guy's got problems the shooters. He's claiming self defense and
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all this, and he don't have a prayer. I mean, that's just
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it. It was a homicide. So you know, you can't justify shooting
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somebody because they tap on your wind and say, hey the light turned green.
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Go And he admitted the man was unarmed. Yeah, and then you
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can't say, well, I felt menaced by the guy videotaping me, so
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it shut him too. Well, yeah, okay, you've got problems.
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He's going to go to prison. Rules of engagement, though, are such
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that we are again we're in a different era and road rage is becoming more
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and more and more prevalent. Oh yeah it is. And you just have
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to also sit back and go what's motivating this person's behavior. When you're seeing
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outlandish behavior, you have to sit back and go, what's motivating them?
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What's going on? And is it worth me risking my life because I'm angry,
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you know, keeping control olier. You know, we all get angry.
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There's that's that's very human. You know, Sometimes it's time to say
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take a step back and go is it worth being angry over is it outside
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of my control? When the guy that that's now dead because he felt what
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the need to go tap on the guy's window, probably could have just driven
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around him and kept on going and go yeah, you idiot and whatever,
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and you know, the whole finger giving the finger back and forth and all
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that. Just just don't go down. That the only real way, it
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doesn't matter whether it's a fistfight or a gunfight. You the only way to
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avoid getting your knuckles bloody, and either one of those is to not have
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it at all. If you can possibly avoid it. You don't ever want
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to engage in that. If you're reacting to save a life, that's one
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I'm here. If if the if someone else is already started, the life
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threatening, the the substantial life threatening. Even claims like this guy claims self
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defense, it's not gonna stand up because you have to convince twelve reasonable people
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on a jury that it was your actions were reasonable and necessary. That's that's
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sadly for him, he's already sworn out in a statement and he's doomed himself.
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He's done. Yeah yeah, yeah my gun jammedor I would have shot
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him twice. Yeah, So he's got no reasonable defense. But you know,
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it's just sometimes it's better to walk away, be the bigger person,
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walk away, avoid the fight, because that way we know we're gonna win
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if we can avoid it. If we can avoid the fight, that's a
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guaranteed I'm gonna win and walk away from this uninjured. You know, you
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say win, And it occurs to me that, you know, because I
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get annoyed people that drive recklessly and dangerously and aggressively on the roads anytime.
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Me too, But I'm learning that right now, and really in general,
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that's a lot like trying to win an argument on Twitter, Facebook or anywhere
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else. You're not gonna change anybody's mind, that's correct, And if you
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think of it that way, you just say, yeah, I'm not wasting
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my time exactly, And that's exactly the attitude to have. I'll yell and
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scream inside the car by myself. Charlie makes fun of me because I will
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talk so bad about somebody driving stupid around me. But I don't do a
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lot of hand gesture. I don't do hand gestures, and I don't roll
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the window down, and I don't slam on brakes, and I don't you
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know, engage further in it. I might talk, you know, really
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bad about them and their entire lineage, but I'm not gonna do anything to
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pick a fight, because that's just not smart. If an accident does happen
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and you're dealing with somebody that was driving aggressively and this could escalate and get
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bad, you get on the horn with police right away. Absolutely, and
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everybody, you know, if you got to everybody's got hands free stuff on
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their phone, and it's it's a real easy you know, hey, whatever
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your device is, and your call nine to one one, you know,
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and the car will call nine one one for you or hit the on star
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button or hit the whatever the help me button. Yeah, immediately if this
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is going on now, you know, and if it's it's a if it's
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a passing, fleeting thing, just let it go and take take a right
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to you know, make a series of you know, a right and some
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lefts and move on, move on. You know, nothing to see here.
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It's just yourself away from this person and let them keep driving crazy.
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And it doesn't hurt to call the police say you got a reckless drivers.
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This is the making model and tag number, and you know, make a
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report. It's you know, it's it's no country for old men. Live
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for another day, not to advertise the movie, but it's it's really we're
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living in no country for old men. It's it's just you know, sign
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of the times, thirty six minutes past the hour, it's Wednesday on the
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Morning show. It is November first, just saying it feels cooler. But
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that change of the weather around Halloween happens every time, maybe a week or
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so, but and I know we'll have some warmer temperatures back, but it
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sure feels good today. All Right, I said the words, and I
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could almost hear your brain. People do buy firearms for Christmas gifts, yes,
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sir, and oftentimes it's husband buying for wife. Bad idea, guess
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I know, I know, And so I'm gonna tee you up because it's
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November. First, choose purses and pistols, fellas, don't do it?
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Explain first? Why not? Before we get to some of the things to
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consider under the why it's the one not is that it doesn't really matter what
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you think she should have. Guys, you need to let her choose because
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everybody's hands are different, everybody's feelings are different. Everybody's got you know,
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see it all the time at the store. Once fired, twice fired,
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you know, bringing them in. If you guys take guns back, the
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old trade ends and yeah we do. What are you trade for? I
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don't know yet, but my wife got the she doesn't like this. You
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know. How often is it? And I'm maybe I'm stereotyping unfairly, but
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it seems to me, based on the stories that I've heard, that guys
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tend to think the little lady wants or needs a revolver yep? Is that
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the common decision. Absolutely, And it's probably the dead opposite of the type
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of guns she should have. And snubnose thirty eight special revolvers breaker wrist are
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the most horrible things to shoot, even for us big guys. They're they're
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just the most atrocious choice for most people. Now, there are some people
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that just that's what they want. They are comfortab with it, They're fine
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with it, and I'm fine with it. It's not you know, it's
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a very formidable, functional gun. It's about you, and guys tend to
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not think of their wives sometimes as being the best way I can put it,
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is mechanically capable because the wife always gets him to get up off the
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couch to go fix things. Wives can run can openers. Guys they run
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sewing machines. I can't run the can opener at my house. I have
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to I just men and the can opener just don't speak the same language.
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And I don't mean to I'm not trying to tell you I'm an idiot.
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I'm just saying my wife can get that can opener to go to town with
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it, and I fight with that thing every time. But so women are
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very capable, and most women, given the choice, once they understand the
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mechanics, once they under get some training. You know, they tend to
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do very well with semi automatics. And some automatics are not what you think
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they are. Some guys you know from years and years ago, where they're
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unreliable and that they jam all the time. There's there that's definitely not the
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case. And little guns are more punishing on the hand and harder to shoot
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than bigger guns. So they always get them. Let's get them a cute
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little I want to get them a little little something thing carry in their purse.
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They got a purse if it's anything like you know, my mom and
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my wife, whatever else. They can put the kitchen sink in there.
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Yeah, you know, they could just about put an sbo's a short belt,
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right, But it's that fallacy that a small little firearm is going to
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be easier to handle when it's absolutely the dead opposite. It is the dead
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opposite. So get them a gift card, get them some training, get
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them some time at a range. Let them try it for themselves, and
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you will be You will think me later. So this segment of the radio
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program was dedicated to all of you thinking about buying your sweetheart a firearm,
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even if it's wives buying some one thing you think your husbands will like.
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Don't do it, no, because it's gonna be something wrong with it too.
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Yes, let him, let him pick it out. It's a personal
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decision. I don't want my wife buying picking my guns and tell you that
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I got you it is you're gonna get because then I'm gonna feel obligated to
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carry you. Right right, Holiday season is upon us, and many of
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you are gonna be shopping for firearms. The rules have changed, The laws
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have changed in Florida. If you are a Floridian listening to this program,
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if you're in another state, check with your state laws on stuff like that.
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But we're talking about the things you think about before buying somebody a gun.
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And the general rule of thumb is, unless you're buying a collector firearm
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that you know someone's looking for and they'll appreciate for their collection, get them
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a gift card, or say I'm gonna go with you pick out what we
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want. But still it goes back to shooting first and trying different firearms.
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Absolutely. I tell people all the time standing at the gun counter, you
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know, when they never like Look, I can show you everything there is
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that we have. I can explain the differences. I can tell you the
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pluses and the minuses, and the pros and the cons or whatever else.
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But you're not gonna know for sure until you put your hands on it,
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go pull the trigger on it at a target. You know. I can
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tell you what I think you might like. I can probably give you four
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or five that you probably will like. One of those four or five you
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may not, just so many time. I'm guessing at it now, all
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honesty. There's so many variables. Yeah, hand strength, hand size,
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what you want it for, right, Absolutely, And that's usually the first
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question. In somebody's I'm looking for a gun, Okay, for what purpose?
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We're shooting armadilla's in the yard, or we deer hunting, or we
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looking for something for self defense, right, you know, because they're very
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different things. Let's talk about kids, because there was a time, I
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mean, movies, classic iconic movies have been made about BB guns, all
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right. Is that the best place to start a young person with the old
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bbgun that you pick up at the big box store, as long as it's
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treated as a firearm. Understood, Yes, I'm fine with bbguns. I
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started my kids on I actually started my kids on twenty two rifles. But
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BB guns, Impella guns can still do real dad. Absolutely, that's what
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I'm saying. I mean, it's just, you know, they have to
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be treated not like a toy. That makes sense. Be beguns are not
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toys. They're not toys that you give to a seven year old unless that
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seven year old eight year old has a really strict set of rules and somebody's
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watching out the kitchen window while they're in the backyard shooting. Uh, every
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time they target, every time. It's got to be treated like a firearm
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that is capable of inflicting death or great bodily injury. Can you shoot a
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b begun inside your fence? I mean it can be done safely. Yes.
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They make bullet traps for them be beguns. Now, pellet rifles are
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a different story. I'm talking about a Daisy red rider. Yep. The
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big thing you have to worry about is you'll put your eye out, kid.
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They BB's are made out of steel, and if you shoot a hard
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target, it can or a piece of wood or a tire. I learned
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my lesson about that when I was a kid. I shot a tractor tire
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and it bounced back and hit me in the leg, and I was like,
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do that again. But it could have been my eye, and so
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the same rules apply as far as eye protection and so forth. Absolutely,
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you have to treat it like its a firearm. So I didn't start my
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kids on b beguns. I started my kids on real guns with the understanding
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that you know, it is treated treated with respect and it is not to
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be taken lightly. If someone makes that decision ideally A twenty two Yeah,
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absolutely they make there's several companies that make kid size, kid friendly side.
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They're really they're little rifles that are too small for you and I to shoot.
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For the best part, each one of my kids has one of those.
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We made a big deal about it, and we were very reverent with
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the introduction with it, you know, and they all learned to shoot that
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way, and they're all very safe with guns, and you know, and
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they're also not curious about them, which is the dangerous side of that.
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If you've got guns in the house and your kids are curious, you need
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to dispel that curiosity, you know, immediately, Yeah, immediately educate them.
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Yeah. Yeah, as always, Thank you, yes, sir,
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thank you. Shiate it. I can't wait for the fifth Wednesday. If
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we pull this off. I've never had the two of them in here together
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to do a Q and A. That would be incredibly fun. We'll see.
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Forty six minutes past the hour, Jade Johnson Talent Trading Group, Talent
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Outdoors on the Morning Show with Preston Scott