Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Whitney Rye: Bardstown, Bourbon & a 15-Year Willett in The Parlor Room
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- 0:03Incredible flavors, even better stories. One Pour,
- 0:0610 Minutes. Aussie bourbon lovers sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:13We're super excited. We're with Whitney Rye at The Parlour Room in
- 0:17Bardstown and host of the Mashbill podcast and of
- 0:21course owner of The Parlour Room. Here we are. Yes. So good. Thanks for coming
- 0:24and letting us in. Listen, I didn't do anything. I came to work. You all
- 0:28came here from a very, very long way away.
- 0:32Yeah, exactly. So thank you all for coming here. We're excited to
- 0:36be here. Yeah. Cheers. That's awesome. I'm super excited. Yeah.
- 0:39Should we start it off? Yeah. What have we got in our glasses? What have
- 0:43you poured for us, Whitney? So this is a 15-year sourced Willett that I
- 0:46picked with Drew Colesveen and Pablo Moy, along with a few of our closest
- 0:51friends who paid me a lot of money to be there. And we decided
- 0:55to do this one, but this is barrel number 4242. I only have
- 0:59a few bottles left of this, so I wanted to share it with you all.
- 1:01So I'm going to talk less, drink more, and let you guys kind
- 1:05of tell me what you think. Yeah. Wow. We'll ask a little questions.
- 1:09It's got a lovely,
- 1:12lovely nose. My goodness. I know I can barely smell right now.
- 1:18My voice is almost gone. Just like the weekend took
- 1:22it out of me and my body is like coming back punching me.
- 1:25So I've been a little congested recently, so I just went
- 1:29straight in, but it still tastes good. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. It's delicious.
- 1:34The, actually, I'm getting some lovely fruit, like some stone fruit characters
- 1:38on the, both on the nose and on the palate. And then, yeah.
- 1:41Yeah. That kind of great Willett body is so pretty. Right.
- 1:45This is very Willett. This feels to me like
- 1:48whenever we went through, so we, we had 6 lined up in front of us.
- 1:50And we got to try. And when I sat down initially and
- 1:54talked to Drew, I was like, hey, I got this new license. Like, I really
- 1:57want you to be my first barrel pick. And he was like, sure, let's do
- 2:01it. But then he was like, well, I want to come and see what you're
- 2:03doing. Like, I've heard about it. I've seen you around, like, whatever. Because we knew
- 2:07each other, obviously. I texted him to be like, hey, can we have coffee?
- 2:10And so he was like, I'm not going to wear any swag. Don't tell anybody
- 2:14I'm there. I'm going to come and take a classic. And I was like,
- 2:16do you want to do the Willett one? And he was like, no, just whatever
- 2:18you got. So he came in and did a like $40 ticket class,
- 2:21right? It was Buffalo Trace. It talked about the mash bill.
- 2:25So like E.H. Taylor Small Batch, Eagle Rare, like that sort of thing. Very base
- 2:29intro level to Buffalo Trace. And he came and he sat right over there.
- 2:33And at the end, like he, you know, he was just like
- 2:36drinking and going through the motions just like everybody. At the end, everybody left and
- 2:40he was like, I'm obsessed with this place. He was like, I love what you're
- 2:42building. I love that you're not doing tasting notes. I love that you're not doing
- 2:45mash bills. And I was like, yeah, this is called mash bill 1,
- 2:482 wheat. And I was like, but I don't actually talk,
- 2:52I don't tell people the mash bill. I just tell them like, hey, this one's
- 2:55mash bill number 1, this one's mash bill number 2. This is why they
- 2:58have those mash bills. This is why they do it. And he was like,
- 3:01can I call Pablo? And I was like, of course. And I was like,
- 3:05well, Ethan, your barrel manager's right next door. Can I have them come over?
- 3:08They were gonna come by. And he was like, absolutely, bring 'em all over.
- 3:11So about 2 hours later, I have about 30 bottles
- 3:15lined up on the table because everybody just started bringing stuff.
- 3:18And Drew's like, here's what we're going to do. We're going to plan this 2-night
- 3:22event at Parlor. You're picking a 15-year with me. You're going to pick a 15-year
- 3:26with Pablo. And then they wanted to talk about each other's brands and
- 3:30really kind of break down any barriers between that. So this is the
- 3:34barrel pick that we did for that event. And yeah,
- 3:38and so my thing is with this one, I picked this immediately.
- 3:43Like there were 6 in front of us. I slid this one forward, kept trying
- 3:45them, went back to this and I looked at Drew. He's sitting right next to
- 3:48me and I was like, number 3. And he was like, number 3. And everybody
- 3:51else is still kind of tasting and we were whispering and I was just like,
- 3:55yeah, it's number 3. And then everybody was like, well, I really like number 4.
- 3:59I really like number 2. And I was like, I was like,
- 4:03well, let's revisit 2, 3, and 4.
- 4:07And they were like, oh yeah, yeah, number 3 was really good. And so we
- 4:10go through and finally it dwindles down and it was half and half.
- 4:133 people wanted number 4, 3 people wanted number 3. Luckily I
- 4:17had a majority stake. You get to push the—
- 4:21But the second Drew was like, number 3 was my favorite, everybody was like,
- 4:25all right, we're good. We made the right call. But my, when I
- 4:28pick a barrel, what I look for is chocolate.
- 4:32I was going to say I get a burnt finish, like a burnt chocolate finish
- 4:36on the end of it, which is really nice. And I feel like chocolate just
- 4:38balances out every other thing, right? So you said stone fruit, like if you had
- 4:42stone fruit, if you have banana, like Old Forester and Barton have these notes of
- 4:46banana, all of those go really well with chocolate. So do
- 4:50any type of floral, any type of herbal goes really,
- 4:53like mint and chocolate go really well together. I just feel like chocolate has this
- 4:57ability to really combine and balance out a
- 5:01pour. So the second that I tasted this and I got that chocolate,
- 5:04I was like, this is it. This is my favorite.
- 5:08And so here we are. However long later.
- 5:12Well, you're a Bardstown local, so your favorite
- 5:15is going to be a good recommendation because you get to try all of them.
- 5:19100%. So I have a really great relationship with a lot of the distilleries.
- 5:22I've always loved Willett. I have not always been able to afford Willett,
- 5:27But I do this other podcast that we've just kind of
- 5:30done live on social media called Bourbon Bracket. I'm sure
- 5:34you all get this question all the time. What's your favorite pour? And I'm like,
- 5:37in what category? Yeah. That's a good response.
- 5:41And also on what day? Like what do you feel like? Right.
- 5:44'Cause sometimes I just want a martini. I don't even wanna drink bourbon. So I'm
- 5:48like, it depends on your mood. It depends on everything. Like if someone asks me
- 5:52what's the best pour you've ever had, I can answer that pretty quickly. If they
- 5:55ask you, you know, oh, out of these 4, what's your favorite? Great, I can
- 5:58answer that. So Crystal from Evergreen and
- 6:02Nikki from Liam Ashe, all of us did a barrel pick and we were
- 6:06talking and I was like, we should just do this live on Instagram. And so
- 6:09we did. And we pick a category. We're basically building like a bracket of bourbon,
- 6:13like a fantasy football draft, right? So the first week we did our favorite
- 6:17single barrel, but there were limitations. Can't be more than a year old.
- 6:20Can't be more than $150 because we want it to be approachable for people to
- 6:24go out and find. And it can't be a barrel pick. That was a big
- 6:28one that got us. Oh, because a lot of single barrels would be barrel picks.
- 6:31Exactly. Because they're technically, obviously a barrel pick is going to be one single barrel,
- 6:34but it's not like designed to be a single barrel, right? That's not what somebody
- 6:38can go pick up at the store. Well, it wouldn't be as readily available.
- 6:40Right. Exactly. Like this one. Not readily
- 6:45available at all. But we were surprised because then we would record
- 6:49it and we would all bring our favorite But we were surprised by the limitations
- 6:51of that. It was just like, dang. So mine was Blanton's Gold. Yeah. Okay.
- 6:55And I was like, this is probably the thing that made me really love story
- 6:59of bourbon, right? And then Crystal brought in,
- 7:03Crystal and Nikki both brought in a Heaven Hill product. I forget which ones.
- 7:06I think Elijah Craig 15 and a Henry McKenna 10-year. What they brought in.
- 7:09They're all great picks. Right. But then we did it blind 2 weeks
- 7:13later and I picked Henry McKenna. And so it
- 7:17was just, it's so cool to think about it that way and to break it
- 7:19down of like, when you ask, what is your favorite single
- 7:23barrel? I can answer that a little bit easier now,
- 7:27but you have to really think that question through because
- 7:30that's a really hard question for someone who has as much bourbon as we do.
- 7:33Right? Right. Yeah. And I mean,
- 7:36our appreciation of bourbon, we're comparatively
- 7:40new to it, having not been able to grow up in Bardstown. What's it been
- 7:42like growing up around here and then like having it always as part of what
- 7:45you do? It's amazing. I mean, I always tell people what you
- 7:50don't— people come into Bardstown and what they don't realize is that I'm friends
- 7:54with pretty much every master distiller. But beyond that, like, that's the cool thing,
- 7:57obviously. But beyond that, I'm friends with most of the brand teams. You know,
- 8:01these are people that I've worked with in the past or that I see consistently,
- 8:04and they're just out and about. You know, the amount of times I've ran into
- 8:07Ross Cornellison, or Drew Koolzveen, or even Connor
- 8:12O'Driscoll. Like, they'll just be at Mr. Tubb's or at Neat, and like, we'll just—
- 8:15I'll just be like, hey guys, how are you? You know, whatever. So growing up
- 8:19in Bardstown, if you don't already love bourbon,
- 8:22like, I feel bad for you because there's nothing else here.
- 8:27I mean, it is why we come here. That's why it's the bourbon capital of
- 8:31the world, right? We have 11 distilleries within a 15-mile radius of here.
- 8:34And they're great distilleries. I mean, if you think about Jim
- 8:37Beam, Maker's Mark, 1792, we have Four
- 8:41Roses Bottling, we have Bartow Bourbon Company, we have Luxco. I'm forgetting
- 8:45some, but you know what I mean. So many. Like, I apologize if there's
- 8:49one that I didn't mention. I'll randomly shout it out later. But I think it's
- 8:52one of those things where there's so much access that you almost
- 8:56lose the desire to access for a
- 9:00lot of people. I was not one of those people. I was like, why would
- 9:03I go anywhere else and open up a tasting room? Why would I have my
- 9:06podcast anywhere else? Like, this is my home. Yeah, but it's
- 9:09a lot of fun for me because I love bourbon. And I just remember,
- 9:13you know, I was like 7, 6 or 7 years old and I was driving
- 9:17home from Louisville with my dad. And if you've been here,
- 9:20Louisville's about 45 minutes north of us and you have to take I-65 south and
- 9:23then you turn off of the Clermont exit. Well, right there at the corner
- 9:27of 65 and Clermont is Jim Beam Distillery.
- 9:30I was 6 or 7, didn't know. And we were driving by, it was nighttime.
- 9:33And I look over and I was like, Dad, what's that little city right there?
- 9:37Because, right, if you've been at night and you drive past Jim Beam,
- 9:40everything's lit up. There's like little— and they're in this like valley,
- 9:44so you can kind of see it all. There's like smokestacks and
- 9:47different things. And he just laughed and he was like, little city, they make
- 9:51bourbon there. And, you know, obviously I was like, what's bourbon?
- 9:54He's like, you'll find out when you're older. Yeah. And then
- 9:59another story, like, I— we were driving by and my dad always drove
- 10:03me around. But I was like, why are there those prisons in the middle of
- 10:06Bardstown that have gates around them, but nobody ever comes
- 10:11or goes? Like, in my head as like a child, I was like, these are
- 10:14haunted. That's why they roped them off. And he's like, no, that's where they have
- 10:17barrels in there. And I was like, oh my gosh, those poor barrels. Because,
- 10:21you know, the Heaven Hill ones, if you look at them, I think they still
- 10:24do. Maybe not. But they paint all of them white. Yeah. Well, then you have
- 10:27like this black, you know, the black fungus is like seeping down from
- 10:31the windows. So it's like every child's horror. Yeah, yeah, right. Has that creepy feel.
- 10:34I was like, what's happening? Like, are all those prisoners just like stuck
- 10:38in there? And so, I mean, you know, there were, there were a lot
- 10:42of parts of it that I had to figure out, but I'll never forget like
- 10:45my first time stepping foot on Maker's Mark campus, you know, and just going and
- 10:49walking through and seeing the beauty. And I mean,
- 10:52this was 2012-ish. So I don't
- 10:57think they had Chihuly yet. But, you know, they were still touring Margie's Kitchen
- 11:01at that time. And it just changed. It changed the way that I
- 11:05thought about bourbon. I was like, this is beautiful. This is stunning. And then you
- 11:08look around and you see hundreds of tourists. Yeah.
- 11:12And I was like 23 at the time bartending. And I was like,
- 11:16this is people's Disneyland. Yeah. Like this is— I grew up here.
- 11:19This is a happy place. Yeah. This is the world, the happiest place on earth.
- 11:23I won't say the whole thing because I don't want y'all to get sued.
- 11:25Happiest place in the world. I'm like, not trying to get
- 11:29y'all trademarked, but that's how I felt about Bardstown.
- 11:33And so, you know, the more people that come in and see me,
- 11:36that's how I approach it is you're here.
- 11:39This— you could be at Disneyland. Yeah. You could be in Australia.
- 11:43You could be in Ireland or in Scotland or Mexico. You could be on the
- 11:47beach somewhere. But you chose to come here. Yeah. I take that seriously, and I'm
- 11:51going to make sure that you have the best darn trip you possibly can with
- 11:54some of the best darn whiskey that you possibly can. So that's kind of,
- 11:57you know, growing up in Bardstown made me who I am through
- 12:01and through. And it's something that I absolutely love.
- 12:05I'm very, very happy. The only other place I would have liked to grow up
- 12:08is probably Australia. So, but y'all have a lot of spiders. I was like,
- 12:13snakes and spiders. Yeah, snakes and spiders. Snakes and spiders and
- 12:16sharks, oh my. Like, there's just like, yeah, y'all got a lot of
- 12:21the, the danger of the bad. I've got a lot of good stuff. So our
- 12:25first trip here was we, we brought the kids over and we left them with
- 12:29our niece at Disneyland and we came out to see— yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 12:32you were like, we could go to Disneyland, we're gonna go to Bardstown
- 12:36instead. A great time. And then we all met up in New York afterwards.
- 12:38It was like, how was that? Cheers to that. Yeah, cheers. Thanks for coming on.
- 12:42This has been amazing. And thanks for having us here. And, uh, when you come
- 12:45to Bardstown, you got to come check out the parlour. Please do. Thanks, Benny.
- 12:48Cheers.
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