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- 0:09Speaker 1: Destroy Winter Insurance? Did I true? I'm a checked I.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Both chance speed at things, wait the ads.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I'm Adam Todd Brown, I'm Laura Crawford, and we're your hosts.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Oh can you believe it? It's very nice. Oh we're here,
- 0:43Speaker 1: so nice. Oh we're here. We're here to talk about
- 0:46Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. How's it going, Laura, I'm great.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I'm not as good as Hillary Clinton, who probably knew
- 0:54Speaker 2: about Kobe Bryant's staff.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Oh that's what happened. Well, she had him killed. Yeah,
- 1:00Speaker 3: we are. This is our second Kobe Bryant podcast of
- 1:02Speaker 3: the week.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I'm better than Hillary Clinton, who's got blood on her hands. No,
- 1:06Speaker 2: I'm doing just fine. We're just catching up with you.
- 1:09Speaker 2: It's been a minute. Happy to be here. It's great
- 1:12Speaker 2: to see Winter. I'm just please just punch.
- 1:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:15Speaker 3: I've been back and forth. I'm at the studio for
- 1:20Speaker 3: a few days to record, and this is the last
- 1:23Speaker 3: thing I have to record the before I get to
- 1:27Speaker 3: take a couple days off.
- 1:29Speaker 1: It's been a long week.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Do you know what, imuch? I just had in my mind.
- 1:32Speaker 2: If you right, like I imagine you in a tiny
- 1:34Speaker 2: sailboat with winter by your side, like sailing off into
- 1:37Speaker 2: the sunset, like a totally serene.
- 1:40Speaker 3: It's not unlike that, except I'm on the one oh
- 1:44Speaker 3: one for twenty some miles and it's hell on earth.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Well for me, I'm just on the Sauceay, that's saucy, nice,
- 1:55Speaker 2: saucy cross.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Oh you didn't like that jug of you? A little
- 1:57Speaker 1: acid reflex there.
- 1:58Speaker 3: Ah, So yeah, Kobe Bryant died last week. As this,
- 2:03Speaker 3: as this goes up, nearly not even a week. It'll
- 2:07Speaker 3: be just over a week. But as we're recording this,
- 2:10Speaker 3: it has not been a week. It's been since Sunday.
- 2:14Speaker 3: It's now Friday. Yes, I talked about Kobe Bryant in
- 2:19Speaker 3: one capacity on the Unpopular Opinion podcast this week, which
- 2:25Speaker 3: if you're listening to this and you've never listened to
- 2:27Speaker 3: Unpopular Opinion, go do it, you goons. It would be
- 2:31Speaker 3: very nice of you. But we talked more about the
- 2:34Speaker 3: idea that it's okay to mourn Kobe Bryant like you
- 2:37Speaker 3: can still like obviously you want to acknowledge that he
- 2:42Speaker 3: has a very troubled past, and it's not a thing
- 2:46Speaker 3: where you should minimize what he did. Because he like
- 2:49Speaker 3: he admitted to it. Essentially he settled it out of court.
- 2:53Speaker 3: We don't know all the details, but also let people
- 2:56Speaker 3: be sad like.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Of course, yes, and it's it's strange. What occurred to
- 3:02Speaker 2: me was that was such a paramounta in my mind,
- 3:04Speaker 2: it but my knowledge of him, just because it got
- 3:07Speaker 2: so much media attention, more than meat attention that I
- 3:09Speaker 2: was used to paying attention to. Lived in Massachusetts most
- 3:12Speaker 2: of my life, and you know, moved to la only
- 3:14Speaker 2: a few years ago, so Kolbe was not a big
- 3:16Speaker 2: cultural figure to me, So I was, you know, a
- 3:20Speaker 2: bit in the dark about everything. So to me, the
- 3:24Speaker 2: sexual assault investigation allegations, that to me was a bigger
- 3:27Speaker 2: part in my mind of my memory of him than
- 3:30Speaker 2: obviously other people who were major fans.
- 3:32Speaker 3: But yeah, and I think that that probably goes a
- 3:35Speaker 3: long way toward explaining what Twitter was like the day
- 3:39Speaker 3: he died. Yeah, it was. It was like a borderline
- 3:44Speaker 3: civil war. There were two very clearly drawn sides and
- 3:49Speaker 3: they were getting after it. But that's not what we're
- 3:51Speaker 3: talking about on this episode.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Yeah, that is.
- 3:54Speaker 3: That's for another show that I just plugged. We are
- 3:59Speaker 3: we're talking about some Kobe Bryant conspiracy theories on this show.
- 4:03Speaker 2: But just like there were those knee jerk joke reactions,
- 4:07Speaker 2: you know that, snap to it, let's make a tasteless
- 4:10Speaker 2: joke right away, there are also I feel like these
- 4:12Speaker 2: conspiracy theories are also extremely rushed in the same way.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't like they're knee jerk.
- 4:17Speaker 3: There is no way for these conspiracy theories to actually exist,
- 4:22Speaker 3: like like, you cannot formulate a conspiracy theory this fact,
- 4:26Speaker 3: unless like I guess JFK Elvis maybe stuff like that
- 4:31Speaker 3: where it's like where it happens kind of in the
- 4:34Speaker 3: open in a weird way, and you just know you're
- 4:38Speaker 3: gonna have questions.
- 4:39Speaker 1: But this, like this is this seems pretty cut and
- 4:42Speaker 1: dry true what happened here.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I guess it's also about the agent of death in
- 4:47Speaker 2: the case, because in the case of JFK or the
- 4:51Speaker 2: World Trade Centers, I think it's easier to construct an
- 4:55Speaker 2: immediate conspiracy theory when there's a person than you can
- 4:58Speaker 2: attach to the violence of the act and it's clearly
- 5:01Speaker 2: not natural in any way. But in this case, when
- 5:04Speaker 2: it's something a natural occurrence, it's sort of very hard
- 5:09Speaker 2: for me and wrap my mind around like an immediate
- 5:11Speaker 2: spring to of a conspiracy accusation.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not time to relate to theory.
- 5:15Speaker 3: It's like when I mean, it is very much like
- 5:19Speaker 3: when someone dies in a plane crash, and like plane
- 5:22Speaker 3: crashes can be rigged or planes can be shot down.
- 5:26Speaker 3: I know all of those things are true, but the
- 5:29Speaker 3: things people are pushing as potential conspiracy theories when it
- 5:33Speaker 3: comes to Kobe Bryant are baseless and absurd and in
- 5:39Speaker 3: one pretty prominent case, just based on false information altogether. Yeah,
- 5:45Speaker 3: but there were some predictions of Kobe Bryant's death in
- 5:51Speaker 3: this I feel like this happens pretty regularly.
- 5:55Speaker 1: It does.
- 5:56Speaker 2: And I was going to say, in terms of conspiracy theory,
- 6:00Speaker 2: possibly you could use this as a note or an
- 6:03Speaker 2: example in a larger conspiracy theory. You know when people
- 6:06Speaker 2: talk about like, oh, we're in the matrix and it's
- 6:08Speaker 2: this altered reality and we're on a different course and
- 6:11Speaker 2: all this stuff. Yeah, so it could be that this
- 6:14Speaker 2: is some kind of signed to people of a fractured
- 6:16Speaker 2: reality that other dimensions are kind of overlapping, or it's
- 6:22Speaker 2: it's a sign of the you know, a glitch in
- 6:24Speaker 2: the matrix, as they say, right, that these things are
- 6:27Speaker 2: coming true that have been shown before, or that we
- 6:30Speaker 2: have pre precognition of, or you.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Know, something to that effect. Yeah, possibly, I don't know that.
- 6:37Speaker 3: And in the case of Kobe Bryant, the things that
- 6:40Speaker 3: are out there do on the surface seem pretty creepy.
- 6:45Speaker 3: There's a cartoon that came out in twenty sixteen on
- 6:50Speaker 3: Comedy Central that was called.
- 6:53Speaker 2: What the Hell was Legends of Chamberlain Heights.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Legends of Chamberlain Heights, And there's a scene in this
- 7:02Speaker 3: cartoon you can find it lots of places on the
- 7:05Speaker 3: internet now where Kobe Bryant is in a helicopter and
- 7:09Speaker 3: the helicopter crashes, and in this scene he's holding two
- 7:13Speaker 3: championship trophies and the people at the scene are like,
- 7:17Speaker 3: if you give us the trophies, will help you out,
- 7:19Speaker 3: and he's like, Nope, not gonna give him up.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Uh creepy. And then it explodes, and then it explodes and.
- 7:24Speaker 2: It explodes, and then all of these championship rings.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Scatter all over the place. It's very it's even for that.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Not being a real event. Obviously, at the time, if
- 7:34Speaker 2: I were making that cartoon, I'd be like, I don't
- 7:36Speaker 2: find that particularly hilarious.
- 7:39Speaker 3: No, but it like it's twenty sixteen. They were I
- 7:42Speaker 3: don't know what, I've never heard of that show. Yeah,
- 7:46Speaker 3: so I don't know if they're going for like a
- 7:47Speaker 3: shock thing or it's not.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Even particularly good joke. But that brings up a bigger point,
- 7:52Speaker 2: which is why the fuck can't Comedy Central let any
- 7:55Speaker 2: goddamn shows besides South Park and Tash or whatever have
- 7:58Speaker 2: more than one season. They're like Fox, They're like obsessed
- 8:01Speaker 2: with is canceling shows after one season?
- 8:03Speaker 3: Yeah, well except for like broad City and workaholicstra on
- 8:07Speaker 3: for a while.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a good run.
- 8:08Speaker 2: But it's like, oh my god, especially in the nineties
- 8:11Speaker 2: and stuff. When I was a kid, it's like there
- 8:12Speaker 2: were just a million shows that Comedy Central just acts
- 8:16Speaker 2: one season.
- 8:16Speaker 3: It was like, and it's crazy that Kobe Bryant died
- 8:19Speaker 3: in a helicopter accident in every one of them.
- 8:22Speaker 1: That's the weirdest play.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Do you remember that scene and Beat the Geeks? Yeah
- 8:26Speaker 2: in Strip Mall with Julie Brown from MTV.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Yeah, remember that scene in the World Series of Pop Culture? Yeah,
- 8:32Speaker 3: where Kobe Bryant dies in a helicopter crash.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Nuts. Do you remember Viva Variety.
- 8:39Speaker 3: None of these things happened, but this, this cartoon did happen.
- 8:43Speaker 3: And there's also a tweet out there that, even if
- 8:47Speaker 3: you go to Snopes, Snope says this is true. A
- 8:50Speaker 3: twenty twelve tweet did predict that Kobe Bryant would die
- 8:55Speaker 3: in a helicopter accident.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And I thought this week was going to be a
- 8:58Speaker 2: lot more vague or cow like, more kind of nessilated
- 9:02Speaker 2: more terms or say more to it, but.
- 9:04Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's the whole thing.
- 9:06Speaker 4: It.
- 9:07Speaker 3: It literally says Kobe is going to end up dying
- 9:10Speaker 3: in a helicopter crash.
- 9:12Speaker 2: And then the icon that they're using the NOSO account,
- 9:15Speaker 2: isn't that Kobe?
- 9:16Speaker 1: Is that Kobe?
- 9:17Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 9:17Speaker 1: But I think he I think he changed it since
- 9:21Speaker 1: is that?
- 9:21Speaker 4: No?
- 9:22Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 9:22Speaker 3: I'm looking from a weird angle, but yeah, dot no. So, uh,
- 9:27Speaker 3: that's his tweet, Kobe is going to end up dying
- 9:29Speaker 3: in a helicopter crash.
- 9:30Speaker 1: And here's the thing that is, uh, what's the context
- 9:35Speaker 1: on that?
- 9:35Speaker 3: On the surface, that seems very very creepy, especially with
- 9:39Speaker 3: it coming out in twenty twelve. Shortly before that tweet,
- 9:43Speaker 3: an incident happened. I believe at the Staples Center where
- 9:48Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant let a teammate basically lent Kobe lent his
- 9:53Speaker 3: personal helicopter to a teammate who needed to get to
- 9:57Speaker 3: the hospital. So it was common knowledge by twenty twelve
- 10:03Speaker 3: that Kobe Bryant owned a helicopter, and as a result
- 10:07Speaker 3: of that story, what came out next was that, oh, yeah,
- 10:10Speaker 3: he not only owns a helicopter, but that's how he
- 10:13Speaker 3: gets to and from the Staples Center because he lived
- 10:16Speaker 3: in Orange County. Yes, like, he's not trying to drive
- 10:19Speaker 3: to like NBA players, they don't live at the stadium.
- 10:23Speaker 3: They still got to commute to and from work, and
- 10:26Speaker 3: Kobe didn't want to spend that much time in traffic
- 10:29Speaker 3: every day, so he would literally take helicopters everywhere throughout
- 10:35Speaker 3: Los Angeles instead of being stuck in traffic. So the
- 10:39Speaker 3: fact that someone would read that and then go, shit,
- 10:43Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant's going to die in a helicopter accident someday,
- 10:45Speaker 3: it's not that weird.
- 10:47Speaker 2: No, it's not that weird. And if you consider someone
- 10:50Speaker 2: frequent air trouble, we don't really think of it because
- 10:52Speaker 2: most of us never really troubled it frequently.
- 10:54Speaker 1: By air.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Harrison Ford's been in many plane crashes. Yeah, so like
- 10:58Speaker 2: it happens, it happens or no. No, I think this
- 11:01Speaker 2: was the point I was thinking of earlier, but I
- 11:03Speaker 2: totally forgot it. The state of Alaska has many a
- 11:06Speaker 2: lot of people travel by small plane in Alaska because
- 11:09Speaker 2: places are so remote and it's just easier and better
- 11:12Speaker 2: for roads. And then it's got like the highest rate
- 11:15Speaker 2: in the nation for plane crashes. It just happens fairly routinely,
- 11:19Speaker 2: almost And I think it was a senator from Alaska
- 11:21Speaker 2: or the congressman who had gotten fucked up in a
- 11:24Speaker 2: plane crash but then came back but.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Really old guy. Yeah, someone else, Philip in the info
- 11:28Speaker 1: on this came.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Back with superpowers, right, Yeah, just like blood porn of
- 11:33Speaker 3: was found about. Yeah, you cannot drive to the capital
- 11:37Speaker 3: of Alaska, Juno, Juno, you can't.
- 11:40Speaker 1: You have to take a plane to get there.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Like even from within Alaska, you cannot drive up the farm.
- 11:47Speaker 1: You can't drive to it.
- 11:48Speaker 3: No, it's like an island, like I don't know how
- 11:51Speaker 3: it's situated, but you can't drive there.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Crazy, you can only fly there. Yeah, so I mean
- 11:57Speaker 1: there are I suppose you can take a boat.
- 11:59Speaker 2: There are a lood people who have air travel as
- 12:01Speaker 2: a regular part of the life. Do you ever hear
- 12:03Speaker 2: the story of the model who fucking had her hand
- 12:05Speaker 2: cut off by a helicopter blade and lost an eye
- 12:07Speaker 2: but she survived, no fucking crazy. I forget the girl's name,
- 12:11Speaker 2: but she ended up marrying like a really hot dude. Still,
- 12:14Speaker 2: she wrote a book, became very successful after her stuff.
- 12:16Speaker 2: But she was exiting a helicopter or something happened and
- 12:19Speaker 2: she and she had her hand raised, she got her
- 12:21Speaker 2: hand just fucking whacked off, lost an eye, all this
- 12:24Speaker 2: other shit. But she's really an inspiration. Talks about you know,
- 12:27Speaker 2: because it's like your whole obviously, your whole job had
- 12:29Speaker 2: been based on being gorgeous, and then she's, you know,
- 12:31Speaker 2: one handed lady.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I should also said that I've had a very grim
- 12:35Speaker 2: week working on a segment for a show where we're
- 12:38Speaker 2: covering nine to eleven and.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Fun week. Yeah, it's a good thing you didn't care
- 12:45Speaker 1: about Kobe that much. I care. I care what it
- 12:49Speaker 1: meant to other people.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'm saying, especially in LA, it's impossible to
- 12:54Speaker 3: not like Kobe. I didn't even realize this when we
- 12:58Speaker 3: did the first Pops episode about Kobe Bryant this week.
- 13:02Speaker 3: He learned Spanish because the Lakers drafted him, because he.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Like he already spoke Italian. It's not that hard.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, putting down is a complishment. Still, he
- 13:13Speaker 3: did it because he knew the Lakers had such a
- 13:17Speaker 3: big Hispanic fan base.
- 13:18Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, fuck it, I'll learn Spanish. True,
- 13:21Speaker 1: So he meant a lot to la sincerely and No.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Actually, the terms that I put it in my mind
- 13:28Speaker 2: to understand it better would be I actually thought how
- 13:31Speaker 2: sad I would be if like my favorite person for
- 13:34Speaker 2: Papaul's Jack Race died very suddenly. You know, someone I've
- 13:37Speaker 2: known for like ten years in entertainment and who was
- 13:39Speaker 2: you know constantly you know, entertained me. He meant my
- 13:42Speaker 2: expectations inspired me whatever it is. Yeah, or you know
- 13:44Speaker 2: when Anthony boor daint I that really uh was not
- 13:47Speaker 2: a good feeling. Yeah, But no, the nine to eleven stuff,
- 13:50Speaker 2: and what's caught me about it was there were more
- 13:52Speaker 2: and more layers to that story than even I had
- 13:55Speaker 2: heard before in certain details of what I was going
- 13:57Speaker 2: over in people's individual stories. It is just sort of
- 14:01Speaker 2: in the way that this story. Then after it came
- 14:04Speaker 2: out that the daughter was involved too, You're like, oh
- 14:06Speaker 2: my tooo, too too much. Already too much, that's way
- 14:11Speaker 2: too much.
- 14:12Speaker 1: It really was. I'm sorry.
- 14:14Speaker 2: We can get back into you know, these geniuses were
- 14:16Speaker 2: able to predict Kobe Bryant's stuff my head.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I feel like we we kind
- 14:20Speaker 3: of explained it like like they It's no one should
- 14:25Speaker 3: be that surprised that that tweet or that cartoon exists,
- 14:29Speaker 3: because Kobe Bryant and helicopters were two things that were
- 14:33Speaker 3: associated with each other, if any other.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Let me die specifically in a helicopter Stevie ray Vaughan, Oh, okay,
- 14:42Speaker 2: I know he did.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Uh, the the actor and the two kids on the set.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a helicopter fall on them.
- 14:52Speaker 2: I've seen the video of that. The head fucking flies
- 14:55Speaker 2: like a volleyball.
- 14:56Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's pretty fucking brutal, fucked up. Okay, yeah,
- 15:00Speaker 1: talking about bad work conditions.
- 15:02Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, I can't think of any other like
- 15:04Speaker 3: Aleiah died on a really small plane.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Yeah, small planes are fairly common.
- 15:08Speaker 3: But yeah, they call him doctor Killers for a reason.
- 15:11Speaker 3: There's there's one particular.
- 15:13Speaker 2: That the sandtrap was the doctor killer and the k right,
- 15:19Speaker 2: Well that was funny. So when when Harrison Ford crashed
- 15:23Speaker 2: his yellow plate, he crashed int a golf course in
- 15:25Speaker 2: Santa Monica, and my imediate reaction was, well, at least
- 15:28Speaker 2: there's lots of doctors there to help and literally you said,
- 15:31Speaker 2: two doctors are on.
- 15:32Speaker 1: The scene to help him. Yeah, of course it's a
- 15:34Speaker 1: fucking golf course in Santa Monica, Pikes.
- 15:37Speaker 4: Uh.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get back to these Kobe Bryant conspiracy theories. Oh,
- 15:44Speaker 3: this is this is Uh, this comes from Instagram and uh.
- 15:50Speaker 2: The theory liable source for news.
- 15:52Speaker 3: The theory here is that it was an Illuminati ritual
- 15:57Speaker 3: sacrifice meant to allow Lebron James to win another championship.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I'm offended that they think that's what the Illuminati cares about.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I'm offended that they think.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Don't think Lebron can win another championship on his own merits?
- 16:11Speaker 3: Yeah, like I mean, and even if he can't, like
- 16:16Speaker 3: this crash might inspire him to. But it's not the
- 16:20Speaker 3: kind of thing you would It's not a plan you
- 16:22Speaker 3: would put in motion just to bring another ring back
- 16:26Speaker 3: to Title Town. Do they even call La title town.
- 16:29Speaker 3: I don't know, but let's read this fucking.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Well tattletale town with all this me too business.
- 16:37Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Hey, a bunch of tattletales.
- 16:41Speaker 1: This is interesting? It interesting? Is it not? Gonna? Let
- 16:48Speaker 1: me make it larger?
- 16:49Speaker 4: Oh.
- 16:49Speaker 2: They also call him an idol worshiper. That's their big
- 16:53Speaker 2: criticism of it. He's an idol worshipper.
- 16:56Speaker 1: That's all. You know.
- 16:56Speaker 2: He's caught up in the Illuminati because you know, you
- 16:59Speaker 2: liked getting trophies because he was good at things.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, sure, Good god, what a reach.
- 17:06Speaker 2: This is the insane stuff that gets passed along these
- 17:08Speaker 2: guys who are like the Illuminati stuff on like Twitter
- 17:12Speaker 2: with it, particularly with like the hip hop and sports community,
- 17:15Speaker 2: is just like, yeah, it's Illuminati, and like that's it.
- 17:18Speaker 2: It's like what it's like, can you explain to me
- 17:20Speaker 2: what the Illuminati it even is?
- 17:21Speaker 1: Do you even know?
- 17:22Speaker 2: I feel like it's just something you've seen in the
- 17:23Speaker 2: video because you've seen jay Z making the triangle pyramid
- 17:27Speaker 2: or whatever.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, I kind of feel like the Illuminati, Like,
- 17:32Speaker 3: if the Illuminati exists, it's more like a government syop
- 17:36Speaker 3: and not like it's there's no.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Yeah, this info. I feel like people only make illuminati
- 17:43Speaker 2: stuff because it's search engine optimization. They just want to
- 17:46Speaker 2: get extra views on YouTube.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, there's there's a whole lot of that.
- 17:49Speaker 1: That is it.
- 17:51Speaker 2: It's like I just but also it's that other thing,
- 17:53Speaker 2: which is this is all just shameless self promotion and
- 17:56Speaker 2: a shameless self promotion in the interest of profiting off
- 18:00Speaker 2: someone's death.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And what's crazy is that a
- 18:04Speaker 3: lot of times is not even profit. People just want
- 18:06Speaker 3: to want attention.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean not profits in the literal sense,
- 18:10Speaker 2: but yeah, for attention, views, whatever.
- 18:11Speaker 1: It's just reminds me, hey, let's give it to him
- 18:14Speaker 1: right now. Yeah.
- 18:15Speaker 3: So this post, I won't say it's already been flagged
- 18:18Speaker 3: by Instagram as false information, but someone had to do that.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Someone had to go read this and confirm that it
- 18:26Speaker 1: was fake. Yeah. That's that's where we are now. This
- 18:30Speaker 1: is what it says.
- 18:31Speaker 3: They may have silenced me on YouTube until the twenty ninth,
- 18:34Speaker 3: but they will never silence the message. After Lebron James
- 18:38Speaker 3: passes Kobe on the all time NBA scoring list, Kobe
- 18:42Speaker 3: gets into a helicopter crash. Only a day later, Lebron
- 18:46Speaker 3: had to hit thirty three thousand, six hundred and forty
- 18:48Speaker 3: four point marked past Kobe Bryant and become the NBA's
- 18:52Speaker 3: third highest scorer in history. The thirty three is significant,
- 18:57Speaker 3: the sixth is significant, And I've been speaking on the
- 19:01Speaker 3: importance of the forty four ritual in pro sports for
- 19:04Speaker 3: months now. To me, this looks like a ritual sacrifice
- 19:08Speaker 3: in order for the LA Lakers to win their seventeenth
- 19:11Speaker 3: championship and for Lebron to get his fourth ring. I
- 19:15Speaker 3: believe this was also a ritual sacrifice for the forty
- 19:19Speaker 3: Niners to win the Super Bowl. Placi your bets now, America,
- 19:24Speaker 3: Because the forty nine is the thirteen. Put that on
- 19:28Speaker 3: my headstone when I die. The forty nine is the thirteen.
- 19:34Speaker 1: It'd be like, have you said it to me? Be like,
- 19:35Speaker 1: are having a stroke? Yeah?
- 19:37Speaker 3: Uh? Anyway, Uh. Kobe was born on eight twenty three.
- 19:41Speaker 3: When you add those numbers together, you get thirteen. What
- 19:48Speaker 3: he means eight plus souplus three. Okay, I'm sorry, I
- 19:53Speaker 3: know it's so die so did I at first? This
- 19:58Speaker 3: really takes some getting three. Kobe was also the thirteenth
- 20:02Speaker 3: overall pick in the NBA draft. Lebron James passed Kobe
- 20:07Speaker 3: on the all time scoring list when he was.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Playing the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
- 20:13Speaker 3: Laura, seven plus six equals thirteen.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Oh my god, and there's more.
- 20:23Speaker 3: What Kobe Bryant was born in Philadelphia.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Well, that settles it. He died on one, twenty six,
- 20:31Speaker 1: twenty twenty. All those numbers add up to thirteen. Yeah.
- 20:38Speaker 3: I also find it very strange that there were Kobe
- 20:40Speaker 3: Bryant helicopter toys being sold in stores. Again, people, they
- 20:45Speaker 3: definitely this definitely makes me believe that his untimely death
- 20:49Speaker 3: has been planned for a while now. Really unfortunate circumstances.
- 20:53Speaker 3: But when you want fame and tens of millions of
- 20:56Speaker 3: dollars in this society, this is the risk you're taking.
- 20:59Speaker 1: At any moments notice, you can be.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Sacrificed that you didn't think about that today, did you, Laura?
- 21:06Speaker 2: The expression is expression isn't at any moment's notice. It's
- 21:10Speaker 2: at a moment's notice.
- 21:13Speaker 3: I hope someone left a comment and said that very thing,
- 21:17Speaker 3: but uh, yeah, that that's one that was posted on Instagram.
- 21:21Speaker 2: And Gubberish numerology. Yeah, what's the point of that to
- 21:24Speaker 2: to he almost he almost wrapped it up by sounding
- 21:28Speaker 2: like he's trying to give life advice to everyone, like, hey, people,
- 21:31Speaker 2: let's keep our let's keep our heads about us. Let's
- 21:33Speaker 2: not try to succeed too much in life because you
- 21:36Speaker 2: don't want to be sacrificed by the Illuminati.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to be rich because then.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Or don't don't or don't get too invested in celebrities
- 21:46Speaker 2: because they could all be killed in the moment's notice
- 21:48Speaker 2: by the Illuminati.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Is that it? I think so?
- 21:50Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a risk you take, like you just have
- 21:53Speaker 3: to when you start watching basketball as a child. Yeah,
- 21:56Speaker 3: you have to take into account that several of these gentlemen,
- 22:00Speaker 3: not the ones on the bench, they're not making Illuminati money,
- 22:04Speaker 3: but the starters they've probably drank goat's blood.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yeah, kid's blood. That's that's what is in the locker room. Kid.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Maybe that's all they mean by kids. Do you know
- 22:17Speaker 1: that guy who have met the basketball?
- 22:18Speaker 2: That peach basket he used was from the Illuminati?
- 22:22Speaker 1: James May Smith. Yeah, it was an Illuminati brand beach basket.
- 22:26Speaker 3: If you add up all the letters of his name,
- 22:28Speaker 3: it equals thirteen I like always say, I hope that's true.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I know, probably not.
- 22:33Speaker 2: I know nothing about basketball, but I do know that
- 22:35Speaker 2: they invented it with peach baskets.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
- 22:39Speaker 2: And that Hall of Fame is in Springfield, Massachusetts.
- 22:41Speaker 4: Right.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never been. I've been to the Baseball Hall
- 22:44Speaker 3: of Fame.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Springfield is not a nice place, isn't It's not? No, Yeah,
- 22:48Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame is like going to a
- 22:50Speaker 1: gift shop. Cooperstown. Yeah.
- 22:52Speaker 3: For one thing, Cooperstown is in the woods, and it's
- 22:55Speaker 3: very underwhelming when you arrive because not a lot of
- 22:58Speaker 3: people go there. So there's just not like there's ample parking,
- 23:02Speaker 3: but not a lot of parking spots. It's that kind
- 23:05Speaker 3: of thing. Yeah, where you're like this should be packed,
- 23:07Speaker 3: shouldn't it? But it's not rock and roll. Hall of
- 23:10Speaker 3: Fame's cool in Cleveland.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Yeah nice. Yeah, I gotta go there. Uh So another.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Dhobe Bryant did not tweet that he had dirt on
- 23:21Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton before his helicopter took off.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Why would Why would Kobe Bryant do that?
- 23:28Speaker 2: I just loved the idea that all day he's tweeting
- 23:30Speaker 2: like keep your head up or a card be a champion,
- 23:33Speaker 2: I love kids, sports, I love my family, Go Lakers.
- 23:37Speaker 1: And then he's like, and I have dirt on Hillary Clinton.
- 23:39Speaker 1: You'd be like, what did you just spouse him?
- 23:41Speaker 4: There?
- 23:42Speaker 1: What happened? Did someone hack your account?
- 23:44Speaker 2: If that had happened, it would have been so out
- 23:46Speaker 2: of character that that would have been in the news
- 23:49Speaker 2: from the moment it happened. Yea, even without his untimely death,
- 23:52Speaker 2: the same whinny you immediately did it, It would have become newsworthy.
- 23:55Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that would have fucking blown up right away.
- 24:00Speaker 3: And also, who in their right fucking mind would ever
- 24:03Speaker 3: tweet something like that and then getting a helicopter nobody.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Hillary is like cleaning to the bottom like a cat. Yeah.
- 24:11Speaker 3: The tweet that went around that people were squeak screenshotting.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Squeak squeaking about, said I have.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Anyway about to get my helicopter and take my daughter
- 24:26Speaker 3: to a basketball camp.
- 24:28Speaker 1: It's like be in touch after the game. This low
- 24:31Speaker 1: corruption is not hip anymore.
- 24:34Speaker 3: Like I know, Tata like, and you know what, as
- 24:38Speaker 3: much as we're laughing, you know there are thousands upon
- 24:42Speaker 3: thousands of people who believe this is why Kobe Bryant
- 24:46Speaker 3: died because he had dirt on Hill. What fucking dirt
- 24:50Speaker 3: would Hillary Clinton have somehow accidentally provided to Kobe Bryant.
- 24:57Speaker 2: I just like to think of them at like a
- 24:59Speaker 2: mast or like an eyes wide shut and like their
- 25:02Speaker 2: masks slipped for a moment and Kobe and Hillary go
- 25:04Speaker 2: oh shit and just catch each other's eye where they
- 25:08Speaker 2: see each other at the communal the gender fluid bathroom,
- 25:11Speaker 2: you know, the USX bathroom, and he's like, what's up Hill?
- 25:14Speaker 1: And she's like nothing, mama, And I'm like, why are
- 25:17Speaker 1: you here?
- 25:17Speaker 3: And this is just for murderers, you know, I'm tweeting
- 25:20Speaker 3: about this, or like.
- 25:22Speaker 2: They were leaving the parking lot and she like dented
- 25:24Speaker 2: his car something.
- 25:26Speaker 1: He's like that bitch wrote up.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he didn't tweet this, it's a fake tweet.
- 25:33Speaker 3: He didn't tweet anything that day.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Actually, I love that they again, it's so direct.
- 25:38Speaker 2: It's just like I have darked on Hillary Clinton that
- 25:41Speaker 2: will lead to her arrest. He doesn't say like he
- 25:43Speaker 2: doesn't tweet, of course, he wouldn't tweet something vague like
- 25:46Speaker 2: you know, like a lot of people in power aren't
- 25:47Speaker 2: who you think they are.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Just talk to Hillary Clinton kind of worried about getting
- 25:53Speaker 3: in this helicopter now, yeah, anyway off the basketball camp or.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Like sometimes you hear or something and don't know if
- 26:01Speaker 2: it's true, and then you get to know someone you
- 26:03Speaker 2: find out start to have your suspicions, you know, something
- 26:06Speaker 2: like that.
- 26:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Then the only thing.
- 26:07Speaker 3: He's ever tweeted about MAGA hashtag oh no, Kobe QAnon.
- 26:15Speaker 2: But he didn't want to tweet about the Clintons that
- 26:18Speaker 2: he had met them at some event. Put a picture
- 26:20Speaker 2: of him and Clinton up as you do.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Yeah, so his trump so yeah, uh yeah, this one's
- 26:27Speaker 3: pretty easy to to to debunk. You can just go
- 26:31Speaker 3: check Kobe Bryant's Twitter. Well, I mean the Illuminati would
- 26:34Speaker 3: have deleted the tweet, but check the way back Machine.
- 26:37Speaker 3: But I'm sure the Illuminati controls the wayback Machine. That's
- 26:41Speaker 3: why the way back Machine exists, so they can alter
- 26:44Speaker 3: Internet history if they need to. I could do this.
- 26:49Speaker 3: I could be I could date, I could date. I
- 26:52Speaker 3: could be one of these people.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Who just makes up garbage, who just sits.
- 26:55Speaker 3: In a fucking park, live streaming insanity on Instagram. And
- 27:00Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm taking the ethical route here.
- 27:03Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't either. I don't know
- 27:06Speaker 1: what's wrong with me. I don't know why I exploited
- 27:10Speaker 1: myself more. I know it's nuts.
- 27:13Speaker 2: I mean I already do to an extent, but you
- 27:15Speaker 2: know that's what I think. It's just it's so funny
- 27:17Speaker 2: where all our lines lie.
- 27:19Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting, interesting prospect.
- 27:24Speaker 3: So let's talk about people who are very much taking
- 27:28Speaker 3: advantage of well.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Also, Hillary is probably a Bulls fan. You think, why
- 27:32Speaker 1: would she be a Bulls fan from Illinois? Oh, that's right,
- 27:35Speaker 1: she is. Huh, I'm a Bulls fan. Yeah. There was, Man,
- 27:40Speaker 1: there was this one brief moment in time when it
- 27:44Speaker 1: seemed like Kobe Bryant was going to come play for
- 27:47Speaker 1: the Bulls. God can you imagine?
- 27:49Speaker 3: Oh, I would like all all would have been forgiven
- 27:52Speaker 3: because I didn't. I was a Bulls fan. I didn't
- 27:54Speaker 3: like Kobe Bryant. He won all the time, and that's gross,
- 27:58Speaker 3: but there were.
- 28:00Speaker 2: High cheekbones that could cut ham.
- 28:02Speaker 1: He's a monster.
- 28:04Speaker 3: There was this kind of tense moment with him and
- 28:06Speaker 3: the Lakers where it seemed like he might go somewhere else.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Well, Shaq was being such a piece of work.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Yeah, uphill.
- 28:14Speaker 3: And there was this video but it was actually just
- 28:19Speaker 3: audio and I don't think they ever confirmed if it
- 28:22Speaker 3: was real or fake, but it sounded pretty real. And
- 28:26Speaker 3: it was these two teens and they just like shouted
- 28:30Speaker 3: at Kobe and we're like, hey, where are we? Hope
- 28:32Speaker 3: you're still gonna be in La next year? And he said,
- 28:35Speaker 3: buy a Bulls Jersey gentleman, and I was like, oh, yes,
- 28:39Speaker 3: and then he stayed with the Lakers.
- 28:41Speaker 2: He imagine if he went to the Bulls, took Michael
- 28:43Speaker 2: Jordan's number and then just started fucking his wife.
- 28:47Speaker 1: They retired Jordan's number.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Oh, I brought it back for They would like they
- 28:52Speaker 2: wouldn't bring him back for Kobe.
- 28:53Speaker 1: They're not gonna give Kobe Jordan's number.
- 28:56Speaker 2: No, but imagine in a hypothetical fantasy world where Cobe
- 29:00Speaker 2: did go but he was like, but I want the number. No,
- 29:02Speaker 2: I don't would not be sick.
- 29:04Speaker 3: There's no way they would have. Yeah, they wouldn't have
- 29:07Speaker 3: let that happen. So let's talk about Let's talk about
- 29:09Speaker 3: doctor Umar Johnson who so is doctor like.
- 29:13Speaker 2: A nickname or like something like doc like you know,
- 29:16Speaker 2: like you know, he claims to.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Be a clinical psychologist. Interesting, but I haven't.
- 29:23Speaker 1: He doesn't own one of those planes.
- 29:24Speaker 4: Like.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Exactly. Like I feel like we could probably do a
- 29:30Speaker 3: whole episode on this guy. But he's been the most
- 29:35Speaker 3: vocal advocate for the idea that Kobe Bryant was murdered,
- 29:40Speaker 3: and his videos, he talks very convincingly. He talks like
- 29:45Speaker 3: he's in church and he is delivering a message to
- 29:48Speaker 3: his believers, because that's what he's doing. He is talking
- 29:52Speaker 3: to his followers and he is spreading a message to them,
- 29:55Speaker 3: and that message is gibberish. So let's listen to We
- 30:00Speaker 3: might listen to this whole fucking thing, but we're gonna
- 30:04Speaker 3: have to pause every once in a while.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Just But I do think that there's just a community
- 30:08Speaker 2: of people who think that a black celebrity cannot die
- 30:10Speaker 2: in America without them be murdered.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Right, And that's only like eighty five percent true.
- 30:16Speaker 2: True. Yes, I'm not saying it's wrong or right or
- 30:19Speaker 2: it's not born of anything, but I'm just saying there
- 30:21Speaker 2: are Yeah, he's a group of people who if anything
- 30:24Speaker 2: negative happens to a black celebrity or whatever. They die,
- 30:27Speaker 2: everyone's mediaction is murder conspiracy. Yeah, and it's because of
- 30:31Speaker 2: the history.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's because this country has a long history
- 30:35Speaker 3: of murdering black leaders.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's an.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Abusing and the just system being a racist and horrifying.
- 30:42Speaker 1: So I understand that inclination one.
- 30:46Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that there was a Kobe Bryant murder
- 30:48Speaker 2: conspiracy because obviously there are agu people who would ever
- 30:51Speaker 2: a black celebrity dies.
- 30:52Speaker 1: They're murdered, right, yeah, and.
- 30:55Speaker 2: Or like whatever, a little girl named John Bays. You know,
- 30:58Speaker 2: it's lat our parents did it, which is not normal.
- 31:01Speaker 2: It's normal happens all the time.
- 31:02Speaker 1: I was all tangled up in my headphone chords. It
- 31:05Speaker 1: was like the goddamn marrionette. I was just thinking about
- 31:07Speaker 1: having a little bull pineapple.
- 31:10Speaker 3: All right, So let's listen to this is one of
- 31:15Speaker 3: the videos from This looks like.
- 31:17Speaker 2: A Facebook livestream or an Instagram livestream. It looks like
- 31:21Speaker 2: Instagram life. And none of these videos are indoors. No, yes,
- 31:24Speaker 2: this is an outdoor shot Instagram live video.
- 31:27Speaker 4: Here we go, personal helicopter, not a commercial plane.
- 31:31Speaker 5: Personal, personal, hell.
- 31:33Speaker 4: Personal, Kobe Bryant's personal helicopter goes down during a routine
- 31:42Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty minute flight, a flight he'd been making
- 31:45Speaker 4: for twenty five years. And it goes down, and they
- 31:48Speaker 4: still don't have all the answers. First they said.
- 31:50Speaker 5: Four people die.
- 31:51Speaker 4: Then it was five people die, and then it was
- 31:54Speaker 4: nine people die.
- 31:55Speaker 3: They have to take time to notify the families before
- 31:58Speaker 3: they start naming the victims. And I think in any
- 32:02Speaker 3: tragedy sometimes the body count fluctuates, like it doesn't really.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Fluctuate, but goes up. So that's not that weird. Let's
- 32:11Speaker 1: keep going dot.
- 32:12Speaker 4: And then they said it was a fire on board
- 32:15Speaker 4: the helicopter. Then they said it was a fire beneath
- 32:18Speaker 4: the helicopter. And now this morning they're trying to blame
- 32:20Speaker 4: it on the fog. They say it was too foggy
- 32:23Speaker 4: for the pilot to take the helicopter, but he asks
- 32:26Speaker 4: for special permission.
- 32:27Speaker 5: He asks for special permission to take the helicopter.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Anyway, if you see the video of the crash, which
- 32:33Speaker 4: is a very heart wrenching video to watch.
- 32:36Speaker 5: Only saw it once. I don't even want to see
- 32:37Speaker 5: it again.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Doesn't exist.
- 32:40Speaker 3: The video of the crash he's about to use as
- 32:44Speaker 3: the basis for his argument that Kobe Bryant was murdered.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Is video of a helicopter somewhere in South America, I
- 32:52Speaker 3: believe Latin America. It is a video of a helicopter.
- 32:58Speaker 3: I want to say it's in Ecuador crashing, and it
- 33:01Speaker 3: is a horrifying video. But it also if a helicopter
- 33:07Speaker 3: crashed in Calabasas, there would at least be a few
- 33:11Speaker 3: rich white people adding to the dialogue you hear in
- 33:14Speaker 3: the background, it would not all be Spanish.
- 33:17Speaker 2: What I know of the coverage of it, which is
- 33:20Speaker 2: I heard that a woman's ring account or app on
- 33:23Speaker 2: her uh caught some audio of it.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Happening, you know her, like, oh that makes sense, yeah.
- 33:28Speaker 4: Or.
- 33:30Speaker 2: I think a guy said he was recording on a
- 33:31Speaker 2: cell phone nearby when he heard something.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Right, But the the video he's referring to, there is
- 33:38Speaker 3: no watch video.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Let's just let him talk about it.
- 33:42Speaker 5: But when you see that video, fog had nothing to
- 33:46Speaker 5: do with that accident.
- 33:47Speaker 1: It was very funny to.
- 33:49Speaker 5: Do with that accident. That sky was clear enough for
- 33:52Speaker 5: him to fly.
- 33:54Speaker 3: He's talking about the video from the helicopter crash that
- 33:58Speaker 3: happened in I'm just gonna say Ecuador because it's not
- 34:01Speaker 3: that big of that's not that important of a detail,
- 34:04Speaker 3: and Ecuador sounds right, but yeah, clear skies because it's
- 34:08Speaker 3: not the same video.
- 34:09Speaker 2: I'd also point I've worked a lot around that area
- 34:12Speaker 2: of Colabasas Ventora, driven up by the one on one
- 34:15Speaker 2: on there a lot. That fog is scary. Just the
- 34:18Speaker 2: Wednesday before that crash happened, I was driving back from
- 34:20Speaker 2: Mentora with from Rotston and we're driving back at night
- 34:24Speaker 2: and we could not fucking see anything. Yeah anything. It
- 34:28Speaker 2: is all hills, canyons, cliffs and fog. Right, it's not
- 34:33Speaker 2: a good They're just not good flying conditions at all.
- 34:36Speaker 1: And the fucking I mean, that's just context about the weather.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Head downed all of their helicopters because of the fog.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Like when he says he that Kobe's helicopter had special
- 34:48Speaker 3: permission to take off, that's true. Uh, but that's because
- 34:53Speaker 3: fog was such a factor. That's why he had special
- 34:56Speaker 3: So the stude's contradicting himself right away.
- 35:00Speaker 1: But there's more.
- 35:01Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you see the propeller go out.
- 35:04Speaker 4: No, you just saw the pro What the hell is
- 35:06Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant's propeller going out on his helicopter. Why didn't
- 35:09Speaker 4: the propeller go out on whole Kobe Bryant's helicopter. When
- 35:13Speaker 4: is the last time you saw a propeller go out
- 35:17Speaker 4: on a helicopter?
- 35:18Speaker 5: I've been in helicopters. What I've been on helicopters. I've
- 35:21Speaker 5: been on helicopters. When is the last time you.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Do you think he's been on helicopters.
- 35:25Speaker 2: I've been on helicopters. I've been on helicopters. I've been
- 35:28Speaker 2: on helicopters. Yeah, I've been on I've not been on
- 35:32Speaker 2: a helicopter. Actually that I almost did laugh about it
- 35:34Speaker 2: in a bit because this dude, I know, opposed to
- 35:36Speaker 2: do it just seems like a reilar asked. Poor twenty
- 35:38Speaker 2: six year old posted like I'm never getting a helicopter again,
- 35:41Speaker 2: And I just wanted to be like, when were you
- 35:42Speaker 2: right here?
- 35:42Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 35:42Speaker 3: And you were never going to get in a helicopter? Yeah, Right,
- 35:45Speaker 3: he's been in helicopters.
- 35:47Speaker 1: He's been in helicopters. He's been in helicopters. He's been
- 35:51Speaker 1: in helicopters.
- 35:52Speaker 3: And the propeller, which is called a rotor. Uh, didn't
- 35:56Speaker 3: go out, didn't go out. So what's the explain that, Laura,
- 36:02Speaker 3: Check and mate.
- 36:03Speaker 2: I've been at hella copters. I've been in so many helicopters.
- 36:07Speaker 2: I've been in hellaicopters.
- 36:09Speaker 1: All right, let's go on.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Saw the propeller go out on a helicopter and the
- 36:15Speaker 4: reason they sabotaged the reason they sabotaged the helicopter, Poopeler
- 36:20Speaker 4: is because when you get on a plane, and I'm
- 36:22Speaker 4: not a pilot, but I have pilots as friends, you
- 36:24Speaker 4: all your system checks.
- 36:26Speaker 5: You check all the systems. So if you want to.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Sabotage an aircraft.
- 36:30Speaker 4: You sabotage the propeller because that's the one place you
- 36:33Speaker 4: don't check.
- 36:34Speaker 1: You don't what what why? Who says? Wait?
- 36:38Speaker 2: The main messation mean a method of motion, the most
- 36:43Speaker 2: important part.
- 36:44Speaker 3: You don't check, you know, check. You just take off
- 36:47Speaker 3: and then you're like, oh shit, that thing's not even moving.
- 36:50Speaker 3: I didn't even notice. It's just a stupid fucking helicopter.
- 36:53Speaker 3: You're lucky we even clean this bitch.
- 36:55Speaker 4: Get on top of the helicopter and check the propeller. Yeah,
- 36:58Speaker 4: you do, Get on top of the hell helicopter and
- 37:00Speaker 4: checked the propeller. The other thing, if the fog was
- 37:04Speaker 4: the reason for the crash, uh huh, why didn't he
- 37:07Speaker 4: crash into the mountains? Why didn't he crash into any
- 37:10Speaker 4: of the physical structures.
- 37:11Speaker 5: They didn't say that.
- 37:13Speaker 3: They have actually said that that's most likely what happened,
- 37:16Speaker 3: that while they were trying to climb out of the fog,
- 37:19Speaker 3: they made impact with a mountain or hillside.
- 37:23Speaker 4: They didn't say that they crashed into a mountain or
- 37:26Speaker 4: crashed into a physical structure. They crashed on the ground,
- 37:30Speaker 4: they crashed on. Ultimately, the fall was not the reason
- 37:33Speaker 4: for the crash. You know how many times you took
- 37:36Speaker 4: an airplane in the fog? You know how many flights
- 37:38Speaker 4: I've been in in the fog. Is in the fog,
- 37:41Speaker 4: helicopters in Africa, in the fog in Africa, in Nigeria,
- 37:45Speaker 4: in the fog, on a helicopters murdered.
- 37:49Speaker 5: That was an expert pilot.
- 37:51Speaker 1: Pilot's expert pilot pilot.
- 37:53Speaker 5: Kobe was sabotage.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Not to mention, Not to mention, here we go, bring
- 38:01Speaker 1: it on home.
- 38:05Speaker 5: Not to mention.
- 38:06Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant was engaged in a legal battle with a
- 38:08Speaker 4: big pharmaceutical company over the use of the name black Mamba.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Can you say that three more times?
- 38:13Speaker 4: In a legal battle with a very powerful pharmaceutical company
- 38:18Speaker 4: over the use of the name black Mamba. Again, Bryant
- 38:21Speaker 4: was engaged in a legal over the use of the
- 38:26Speaker 4: name black Mamba. Do you got one more in?
- 38:29Speaker 5: You understand me?
- 38:33Speaker 1: I do.
- 38:34Speaker 3: Here's the thing was a battle, but he's there is
- 38:40Speaker 3: When he says, big pharmaceutical company, you're like pictureing the
- 38:44Speaker 3: people who miser kick off the opioid crisis and things
- 38:49Speaker 3: like that.
- 38:50Speaker 1: He is in.
- 38:52Speaker 3: He was engaged in a legal battle with a company
- 38:56Speaker 3: that made like weight loss supplements.
- 38:58Speaker 1: Oh okay, And here's the thing.
- 39:01Speaker 3: He was probably gonna lose because they actually trademarked the
- 39:07Speaker 3: name black Mamba first. He filed his trademark a year later.
- 39:14Speaker 3: How would an upstart group of weight loss supplement makers
- 39:19Speaker 3: have this kind of access to Kobe Bryant. He's Kobe
- 39:23Speaker 3: fucking Bryant. Are they owned a helicopter. It's not like
- 39:28Speaker 3: it took off from the park. It took off from
- 39:31Speaker 3: his fucking house. How would I need someone to explain
- 39:37Speaker 3: to me how these people making weight loss supplements all
- 39:41Speaker 3: of a sudden become powerful enough to take down Kobe
- 39:44Speaker 3: Bryant's helicopter.
- 39:46Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, basically that and none of them more Lakers
- 39:49Speaker 2: fans had to believe.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Yeah, very unlikely. Let's see what else.
- 39:54Speaker 5: Radarc is Seat through the Fall.
- 39:55Speaker 4: Thank you system, Radarc and Seat through the Fall. They
- 39:58Speaker 4: didn't crash because of fall and it wasn't no win.
- 40:02Speaker 4: The Propeller was sabotaged. Let me say it again, please
- 40:05Speaker 4: Propeller's sabotage. One more, say it again. The Propeller was sabotaged. Hey,
- 40:13Speaker 4: all right, So the rest of that video.
- 40:16Speaker 2: He so what's your point? So what's his point? What's
- 40:20Speaker 2: he trying to get.
- 40:20Speaker 1: Out of this?
- 40:21Speaker 3: Kobe was murdered, okay, and he's going to bring someone
- 40:25Speaker 3: to justice, be it the Illuminati, the LA Lakers, uh Bryant, Yeah,
- 40:32Speaker 3: fucking black Momba Pharmaceuticals. He also, this is what's so
- 40:37Speaker 3: dangerous about people like this, like this particular brand of
- 40:43Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists, Like he's building a bubble where he speaks
- 40:50Speaker 3: the truth and is never questioned. And you see that
- 40:53Speaker 3: in this video because at one point he goes, Okay,
- 40:57Speaker 3: it's time to have a block party. And if you
- 40:59Speaker 3: look at the comments there's people who are like, well, yeah,
- 41:02Speaker 3: it was actually pretty foggy there. So he's just the
- 41:04Speaker 3: minute you question no anything, he says, he's immediately blocking people.
- 41:09Speaker 2: He's clearly not interested in any facts that don't support
- 41:12Speaker 2: this narrative that he's constructed hole cloth.
- 41:14Speaker 3: Right, and that is not his only video. But here
- 41:21Speaker 3: is the crash video that he was referring to that
- 41:27Speaker 3: is clearly not Calibasis.
- 41:29Speaker 4: No.
- 41:32Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, no fucking any fucking god damn.
- 41:36Speaker 1: It looks like the goddamn Grand Canyon.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Fucking hell, everyone could be shit. If you think that's
- 41:43Speaker 2: the Kobe Bryant crash video, you are retarded. He severely
- 41:48Speaker 2: have more chromosomes than personalities.
- 41:51Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the video he's referencing, and it is clearly
- 41:56Speaker 3: not the Kobe Bryant crash video.
- 41:59Speaker 1: We'll link to it. He can watch it for yourself
- 42:01Speaker 1: if you want. Goofballs.
- 42:02Speaker 3: Yeah, morbid fox and yeah, the lawsuit, it's it's with
- 42:08Speaker 3: a bunch of supplement makers. They're not big Pharma. No,
- 42:12Speaker 3: it's not goddamn Eli Lilly.
- 42:14Speaker 2: No, they're putting sawdust into pill capsules.
- 42:16Speaker 3: Rightically, Oh, here's his other one of his other videos.
- 42:22Speaker 2: He's very emphatic that we'll see what's going with this dude.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Oh he's in the car now.
- 42:27Speaker 5: You'll never get over this.
- 42:28Speaker 6: But once she gets to a point where she's able
- 42:30Speaker 6: to move forward, which is going to be a while,
- 42:33Speaker 6: the question becomes, will Vanessa tell us anything? Will Vanessa
- 42:37Speaker 6: tell us anything? And I don't think she can because
- 42:39Speaker 6: they killed her husband and her daughter. Okay, taking that
- 42:43Speaker 6: daughter for me was a message to Vanessa. Killing their
- 42:47Speaker 6: oldest daughter rest in peace to Gigi was a message.
- 42:50Speaker 1: To That was a message to the wife.
- 42:54Speaker 5: That was a message to the wife.
- 42:55Speaker 6: The murder of the oldest daughter was a message to
- 42:57Speaker 6: the wife, you know. So the question is that anybody
- 43:00Speaker 6: who was around them, who could tell us what was
- 43:02Speaker 6: really going on?
- 43:03Speaker 3: And see, that's really convenient because now whenever someone might
- 43:08Speaker 3: bring up the idea that hey wouldn't his wife would
- 43:10Speaker 3: probably know if someone was threatening his life, he can
- 43:13Speaker 3: go No, they killed the kid too, is a message
- 43:16Speaker 3: to her. So sorry, I guess only he has the true.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Killing a husband a message to her? Also, do I
- 43:24Speaker 2: not understand how messages work?
- 43:27Speaker 1: Yeah? And like what was she was?
- 43:30Speaker 3: Were we expecting Vanessa Bryant was going to make a
- 43:32Speaker 3: video like this, and the only thing he.
- 43:37Speaker 1: Marked in the mountain, like, here's a video.
- 43:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's why that doesn't exist, because they
- 43:43Speaker 3: sent a message. This is my absolute favorite video of
- 43:48Speaker 3: his because just the premise, let's let's just talk about it.
- 43:53Speaker 1: We'll we'll listen.
- 43:55Speaker 4: The National Basketball Association is a suspect in doctor Umar's investigation.
- 44:05Speaker 5: That's right, is it? The goddamn NBA is a suspect.
- 44:11Speaker 3: And now his phone just blew off the tripod and
- 44:17Speaker 3: listen to where this ship goes.
- 44:18Speaker 4: As soon as I said that, mama oh yah blew my.
- 44:20Speaker 5: Cell phone off the stand?
- 44:22Speaker 4: What as soon as I name the NBA as a suspect,
- 44:26Speaker 4: Mama oh ya? And now the winds is coming soon
- 44:29Speaker 4: when I said the NBA, oh rishaw o yah blew
- 44:33Speaker 4: my phone off the state rights very windy proof that
- 44:39Speaker 4: it was the NBA.
- 44:41Speaker 5: It's not damn sure. Some good evidence.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Now that's it's not good evidence proof that.
- 44:46Speaker 4: It was the NBA, But that's damn sure. Some good
- 44:49Speaker 4: evidence that soon when I mentioned an NBA, the ancestors
- 44:53Speaker 4: blow the cell phone off the stand.
- 44:55Speaker 5: I just wanted to point that out.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just that and that's the end
- 45:00Speaker 1: the video.
- 45:00Speaker 3: As if he wanted his phone to be like what
- 45:04Speaker 3: he's saying at the end, there is I just wanted
- 45:05Speaker 3: to point that out. But when he started the video,
- 45:08Speaker 3: he couldn't have known his phone was gonna get blown over,
- 45:12Speaker 3: so that like he's just doing.
- 45:14Speaker 2: Words are powerful and words make things come into reality.
- 45:18Speaker 1: He's just doing improv.
- 45:19Speaker 3: And like there were rumors that Kobe Bryant wanted to
- 45:23Speaker 3: like help set up a basketball league in China, but like,
- 45:26Speaker 3: the NBA is not gonna be fucking mad at that.
- 45:29Speaker 2: I wanted to have the idea that the WNBA was
- 45:32Speaker 2: going to become huge because of Jianna, and like Kobe
- 45:35Speaker 2: Bryant was the more in the NWNBA so much.
- 45:37Speaker 1: They're like we can't have this. They're like misogynistic, murder conspiracy.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Yeah, in that like even that if someone I could
- 45:46Speaker 3: see someone bringing something like that up, but I would.
- 45:49Speaker 3: The NBA has actually been like slowly integrating women into basketball.
- 45:55Speaker 3: There's like women rafts. Now, yeah, there's women who are coaches.
- 45:58Speaker 3: There'll probably be a woman who's a head coach. You
- 46:01Speaker 3: can let them sweep the floors in the NBA at
- 46:03Speaker 3: some point. So and Kobe Bryant was a staunch supporter
- 46:09Speaker 3: of women's basketball and was of the opinion that a
- 46:12Speaker 3: woman could probably play in the NBA right now.
- 46:16Speaker 1: So who knows.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you could take some old, busted
- 46:19Speaker 2: up there's a bunch of guys who are you know,
- 46:22Speaker 2: should be out to pasture, they could easily probably be
- 46:24Speaker 2: replaced by a woman doing something or other.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Yeah, make them sweep the floors.
- 46:28Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a sports feminist when it comes
- 46:31Speaker 2: to a qual I don't think. I just think biologically
- 46:35Speaker 2: women are vastly inferior to men in athletics, and I
- 46:39Speaker 2: think it's absurd to argue that they're equal in terms
- 46:43Speaker 2: of performance. But in terms of enjoyment watching them, I
- 46:47Speaker 2: don't think that you enjoyed any less. I like watching
- 46:49Speaker 2: women's for wrestling and stuff like that and enjoyed just
- 46:51Speaker 2: as much.
- 46:52Speaker 3: See, I think like, if you're talking contexts, deep discussion, yeah,
- 46:58Speaker 3: if you're talking contacts for where it's then not really
- 47:02Speaker 3: like like, it's gonna be a long time before there's
- 47:05Speaker 3: a woman who plays in the NFL, unless she's a
- 47:08Speaker 3: kicker or a quarterback. They go out of their way
- 47:11Speaker 3: to protect quarterbacks in the NFL. But like basketball, like tennis,
- 47:17Speaker 3: men and women compete together, like they they there's.
- 47:21Speaker 2: Well, there was a competition where, like I think it
- 47:24Speaker 2: was one of the Williams sisters went against a male
- 47:26Speaker 2: college tennis player, any beater. Yeah, so yeah, when it
- 47:30Speaker 2: comes to sports, like the best woman in the best
- 47:33Speaker 2: woman in the world, could still be beaten by your
- 47:35Speaker 2: average men's college tennis player. Did that happen, Yeah, it
- 47:39Speaker 2: really happened. I can look at him and send it
- 47:40Speaker 2: to you.
- 47:42Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I guess I won't look it up now,
- 47:45Speaker 3: I'll send it to that.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Sure.
- 47:46Speaker 1: I feel like I would have heard about that.
- 47:48Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, uh, but men and women do compete together
- 47:52Speaker 3: in tennis, like in like mixed Yeah, yeah, mixed levels
- 47:56Speaker 3: and whatnot.
- 47:57Speaker 1: You're correct, So I don't know.
- 47:59Speaker 3: We're getting off trackbe Bryant wasn't fucking murdered.
- 48:02Speaker 2: No, he was not, Nor not for his love of
- 48:05Speaker 2: women's basketball, not for his love of the name black Mombos,
- 48:09Speaker 2: because if not for his love of pharmaceuticals.
- 48:11Speaker 1: But it's the opposite.
- 48:12Speaker 2: And his wife certainly isn't being silenced it anyway by anyone.
- 48:17Speaker 1: She's being silenced by ship like this. Do you think
- 48:19Speaker 1: that pharmaceutical company bought her like a big ring? Probably? Yeah,
- 48:23Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's the only crack I'll make. Made that it.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Was good good, It was terrible. It wasn't worth it.
- 48:31Speaker 2: It was not worth it.
- 48:33Speaker 3: But that's that's that's our rundown of the Kobe Bryant conspiracies.
- 48:37Speaker 3: They're all dumb. He wasn't murdered.
- 48:39Speaker 1: It did relax.
- 48:40Speaker 2: They're irritating in their stupidity and their rush nature and
- 48:46Speaker 2: their lack of empathy and their lack of uh adherence
- 48:50Speaker 2: to facts or logic.
- 48:52Speaker 1: And they're not fun and they're not funny. All of that,
- 48:56Speaker 1: all of that is true. I give it a big
- 48:58Speaker 1: thumbs down, thumbs down on this conspiracy folks.
- 49:01Speaker 2: On this, Yeah, I gave it a stinker, like we
- 49:03Speaker 2: had some little skunk icon that we put in conspiracy
- 49:06Speaker 2: theories or.
- 49:06Speaker 3: Stuff they pio.
- 49:09Speaker 1: A Pinocchio's all of that dumb shit. Yeah, we gave it.
- 49:14Speaker 2: We gave it six aqua tract suits. I don't get
- 49:19Speaker 2: this grading system.
- 49:20Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's our episode. Oh boy, Hopefully we'll be
- 49:24Speaker 3: back to talking about something more believable next week.
- 49:27Speaker 2: And you know what I feel bad. If there's listeners
- 49:29Speaker 2: out there who are listening to this, we're feeling really
- 49:31Speaker 2: bad about Kobe, Like I feel, you know, our heart
- 49:35Speaker 2: goes out to you. And I wasn't as upset as
- 49:38Speaker 2: you were, just because I kind of said of my person.
- 49:40Speaker 2: But I feel very you know, bad that people are
- 49:42Speaker 2: dealing with a very hard loss.
- 49:43Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it was upsetting for me, not
- 49:46Speaker 3: from a sports standpoint.
- 49:47Speaker 1: I didn't like.
- 49:48Speaker 3: I texted Jeff when it happened, and I was like,
- 49:53Speaker 3: if you told me a week ago Kobe Bryant was
- 49:55Speaker 3: going to die, I would not have expected that I'd
- 49:58Speaker 3: be that upset about it. But it just triggered I've
- 50:01Speaker 3: got so much death in my family history. My dad
- 50:06Speaker 3: died when I was really young, So it just triggered
- 50:09Speaker 3: a lot of emotions and feelings and brought up a
- 50:13Speaker 3: lot of trauma that I've been through. But it still
- 50:17Speaker 3: doesn't mean he was murdered by the pharmaceutical industry.
- 50:20Speaker 2: I just feel like, you know, people are sad about
- 50:22Speaker 2: the death. I wonder if hearing this stuff is going
- 50:24Speaker 2: to make them more sad or pissed off.
- 50:27Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it'll make anyone more
- 50:29Speaker 1: sad that.
- 50:30Speaker 2: People are like God, people are such garbage. Kobe Brian's
- 50:33Speaker 2: dead and garbage people are making garbage about it.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's that, but at least we've looked
- 50:39Speaker 3: into it.
- 50:40Speaker 1: For you.
- 50:41Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, because like if you were if
- 50:43Speaker 3: this podcast was going in nineteen ninety four and we
- 50:47Speaker 3: did this episode about Kirk Kobaan and we.
- 50:49Speaker 1: Did our zine about Kirk Kobank, we.
- 50:51Speaker 3: Would be bringing you no comfort at all. It would
- 50:54Speaker 3: be Yeah, he was probably murdered. Sorry, Kobe Bryant.
- 50:59Speaker 2: If kob Ryan was not murdered, Kobe Bryant was not murdered.
- 51:03Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant was not murdered. Let me say it again,
- 51:09Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant was not murdered.
- 51:12Speaker 1: Oh god, my phone just fell. It was the spirits.
- 51:14Speaker 3: Oh shit, ah, spooky.
- 51:20Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant was not murdered. Kobe Bryant was not murdered.
- 51:25Speaker 2: But how did Shack's ass taste that?
- 51:28Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame. He died before he could tell us.
- 51:31Speaker 1: I can't. He's in there, all right, we should wrap
- 51:36Speaker 1: this up. It's it's it's a fridge dog. So let's
- 51:40Speaker 1: get rolling. Do we uh? Do we have anything to
- 51:43Speaker 1: plug before we get out of here. Butt like, but
- 51:51Speaker 1: plugs we're talking about kidding, all right, let's get out
- 51:57Speaker 1: of here. Laura say goodbye bye, goodbye everybody.
- 52:00Speaker 5: We love you.