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8-05-26 Hour 3 - A loaded WR room/Peyton Watson's qualifying offer/New stadium could kill tailgating · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand.
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  Speaker 1: Man Marvs. I'm a big fan of Marvin Mims. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. He is very explosive. I love watching
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  Speaker 1: him work.
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  Speaker 3: I love going out and being in meetings and just
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  Speaker 3: picking his brain.
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  Speaker 1: Marvin's a big play They always ready to happen. You
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  Speaker 1: respect that type.
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  Speaker 3: Of speed man, and it is great just seeing them.
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  Speaker 1: That's Jaalen Wable. Correct. Yes, did you see the catch
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  Speaker 1: that Marvin Mims had yesterday in the left corner of
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  Speaker 1: that end zone over there? He had the catch of
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  Speaker 1: the day. It was a speed rat, just a quick
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  Speaker 1: down the sideline and ain't nobody catching him. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's the fastest player on the team. I think Mims
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  Speaker 1: is faster than.
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  Speaker 2: Water ill stort dynamic. I'll say this, I'm a big
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  Speaker 2: fan of Marvin Mims. Obviously he's been on this program.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be a fan of Marvin Mims until the day.
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  Speaker 2: Till the day he's out of the national football They'll
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  Speaker 2: probably still be a fan of him.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond that. I think he's a good person. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a.
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  Speaker 2: Hell of a football player. He's clearly a pro bowler
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  Speaker 2: in the return game. I just think we're all waiting,
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  Speaker 2: and we have been waiting on how they're going to
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  Speaker 2: utilize his skills to the best on the offensive side.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it so far in this camp. They're using them.
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  Speaker 4: He's having a great cam. No, he's having a great can.
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  Speaker 4: It's very clear. There have been days where they've forced
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  Speaker 4: the ball to Evan Ingram, where they have forced the
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  Speaker 4: ball to Jalen Waddle. Marvin Mims has been force fed
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  Speaker 4: the football at least two of these first five days.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready watch to watch Mosuer's head explode here?
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  Speaker 1: Moj Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Her post headline read this headline, heavy backpacks can strain
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  Speaker 2: bodies of kids. Jesus God, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: This is today's journalism?
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  Speaker 2: My god, dude, I know where are we as a
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  Speaker 2: w society?
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  Speaker 1: Come on? Whereon to carry the backpack? For the kid
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  Speaker 1: doing with this?
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was like a throwaway headline. That's a
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  Speaker 4: big lie.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big story. It's a big story. Teachers say,
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  Speaker 1: leave this stuff at home.
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  Speaker 4: It's next to the open.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Here we go, we're getting
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  Speaker 1: old man again. Let me tell you something about carrying things. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is boomer. Take today's kids books versus the books
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  Speaker 1: the textbooks we used to have. Do you remember the
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  Speaker 1: size of those yellow page text books that we used
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  Speaker 1: to carry? Yes? Do you remember the size of those things? Dude?
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  Speaker 2: You think about it too. I've got my backpack or
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  Speaker 2: whatever I got, and I'm on my bike right. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's weighing you down to the point you can't even right,
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  Speaker 2: can't even exactly.
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  Speaker 4: It's catching on the back of the back tired, and
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  Speaker 4: it's cast to.
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  Speaker 1: Fish on the front fork. And I flipped over my
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  Speaker 1: bike yachts.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, it's like I want my Backpack's like carrying like
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  Speaker 2: an anvil to school.
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  Speaker 1: Man, these kids today, Oh little Johnny's back peggers. You
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  Speaker 1: hear me? Come on, man, cracks and you get your
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  Speaker 1: correct As soon as I saw It's like, what cracks
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  Speaker 1: me up? Hey?
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  Speaker 2: Back to Memzo, man. I want to see this guy.
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  Speaker 2: I just I'm just a big fan. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that if you if Davis Webb is right about this,
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  Speaker 2: and and and and he really adapts well to the
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  Speaker 2: play calling aspect of things. I mean, it's still Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton's offense, but man, if you think about the weapons now,
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  Speaker 2: bo Nick says a lot at his disposal. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: talking about t Higgins or Jamar Chaser, guys like this
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  Speaker 2: or George Kittle's out.
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  Speaker 1: There running routes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's Evan Ingram, but he's got plenty of
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  Speaker 2: weapons at his disposal if they can get that running
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  Speaker 2: game kicking, Raj, I think as a quarterback, you've you've
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  Speaker 2: got everything you need to work with to be a
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  Speaker 2: very good offense.
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  Speaker 4: We are running a like a little promo of the
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  Speaker 4: best training camp takes from all of our shows. And
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  Speaker 4: one of them that's been playing a lot over the
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  Speaker 4: last two days was Kiner talking about how there's a
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  Speaker 4: glut of talent in the wide receiver room and he
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  Speaker 4: four sees before the end of camp a trade like
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  Speaker 4: they did with de Von Vailey, and he named Troy Franklin,
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  Speaker 4: Marvin Mims, and Pat Bryant as those three trade candidates. Dude,
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  Speaker 4: I don't see them train either one of those players.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they want to well one of those players,
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  Speaker 1: though you do have this glut, who's gonna play who's
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  Speaker 1: not going to play if you keep all those Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Wattall's gonna play, Courtland Sutton's gonna play. Bryant's all right,
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  Speaker 1: so you think Bryan's So you mean to tell me
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna keep those other two just around?
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  Speaker 4: You're willing to let a third round pick go? What?
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Mims is gonna stay because he can return the ball.
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  Speaker 4: I worry that if you get rid of one of
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  Speaker 4: those players, and Marvin Mims likely is playing in a
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  Speaker 4: new uniform next year, that if you trade one of
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  Speaker 4: those wide receivers away in this camp, we're then looking
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  Speaker 4: at this time next year going, oh, I wish Pat
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  Speaker 4: Bryant was still a Bronco. Oh I wish Troy Franklin
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  Speaker 4: was not traded last year because we had this wealth
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  Speaker 4: of riches. Now, Marvin Mims is gone, and Courtland Sutton's
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  Speaker 4: one more year older. All those things happened down the road.
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  Speaker 4: How many wide receivers do you think they're going to keep?
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  Speaker 1: Five?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you've got five, so here are your five, Sutton, Waddle, Franklin, Mims,
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  Speaker 2: and Bryant. Yes right, okay, sure about little Jordan. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm talking about. But if you want
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  Speaker 2: to keep little Jordan, Yeah, they cut him last year though,
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  Speaker 2: too understood, And he keeps coming back, Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, a bad penny. He keeps coming back.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, he keeps coming back and they
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  Speaker 2: keep playing him. This guy's a lot of playing time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they cut him, right, and then he comes
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  Speaker 2: back and he plays for the Denver Broncos. So he
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  Speaker 2: keeps showing up, but he keeps sort of getting the
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  Speaker 2: job done and earning an opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: He could be one of those players that comes back
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  Speaker 4: during the regular season though, So that.
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  Speaker 2: Means there's no hope for the big giant UFL All Stars,
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  Speaker 2: super Hall of Famer leading in receptions, I'm wearing number thirty.
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  Speaker 1: That's never It never bodes well when you're wearing number
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  Speaker 1: thirty as a receiver in camp.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's true. I de see Treell Davis is all
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  Speaker 2: I can think. So, I mean, I guess those those
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  Speaker 2: are the guys. But but again we've seen guys emerge
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  Speaker 2: and guys force the issue, which is why you trade
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  Speaker 2: a vele a and you get something for him?
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  Speaker 1: What was it a fifth? They get a fifth?
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  Speaker 4: They got one better than where they drafted him. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm almost positive they got one round better than where
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  Speaker 4: he was drafted. Uh, it killed me. Eighty four is
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  Speaker 4: being worn by Caleb Loner, who, by the way, still
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  Speaker 4: has not found his way onto the field stemming off
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  Speaker 4: of off season knee clean up surgery. Kills me. That
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  Speaker 4: eighty four is being worn by any tight end out
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  Speaker 4: here on the field. Thirty being worn by someone is
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  Speaker 4: even more.
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous, especially again, it doesn't even play the same position.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening? Yeah, well it looks weird.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime that I see thirty out there, go you don't
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  Speaker 4: get that. You don't deserve to wear that number. It'd
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  Speaker 4: be like going into training camp and seeing someone where
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  Speaker 4: number twenty one or number fifty two for the Avs
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  Speaker 4: or number thirty three is a goaltender. It should be retired.
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  Speaker 1: Only so many numbers you can retire, especially in the
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  Speaker 1: sport with this many players, they.
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  Speaker 4: Have like two numbers retired.
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  Speaker 1: Is anybody ever gonna wear seven?
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  Speaker 4: They have three? No, because seven seven's retired, gone retired,
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  Speaker 4: forty four is retired.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Uh, it's the Trapuka Tripuka and yeah, John
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  Speaker 2: La and the Floyd Lou yea and Floyd Lil Yep.
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  Speaker 4: You can afford eighty four thirty to go retired at
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  Speaker 4: this point too, especially now that you are not bound
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  Speaker 4: by like bracketed numbers. Right, number thirty can be worn
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  Speaker 4: by a wide receiver now these days.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about a Hall of Fame running
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  Speaker 2: back and should be retired.
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  Speaker 1: How soon before they just combine letter and number number
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  Speaker 1: four b.
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  Speaker 4: Forty point one awesome, forty one dash ag Hey, just
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  Speaker 4: see that play by pie. No one calls plays by
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  Speaker 4: numbers anymore. Probably would be a funny one, would it.
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  Speaker 4: Or just taking eight and go sideways now you're infinity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good. Hey, there's supposed to be some
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  Speaker 1: hitting going on today. They're gonna be back in pads.
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  Speaker 1: We saw hitting yesterday. I thought yesterday, guys, was the
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  Speaker 1: first sign of real football. There was popping in a
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  Speaker 1: nine out seven. I heard a couple hits right after
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  Speaker 1: Benito went down to Benito happened on the first play
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  Speaker 1: in nine out seven. So he's on the ground, laying
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  Speaker 1: down and trainers are looking at his ankle and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy, But as as he's laying down, somebody took
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  Speaker 1: a hit. And I couldn't tell who it was because
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  Speaker 1: I was staring at Benito. But my god, did they
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  Speaker 1: hit hard?
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  Speaker 4: Oh it was JK. Dobbins And oh was it it
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  Speaker 4: was Arique or was it? Like I don't know, Dobbins
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  Speaker 4: took the big hit. I can't remember who the defender
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  Speaker 4: or the defender was on that play. I know exactly
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  Speaker 4: which one you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: J K, by the way, never stops talking.
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  Speaker 4: It was Zach Allen.
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  Speaker 1: Never stops talking. He is yelling at everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Allen on Dobbins.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And Raj typically, what did you see at the end
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  Speaker 2: at the end yesterday you saw a skirmish, right.
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  Speaker 4: A little Jakwon McMillan and Evan Ingram.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, once the hitting starts or the physicality ramps up,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to call it hitting because nobody's
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  Speaker 2: taking anybody to the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Oh look there was physicality yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, what's the physicality, what's the what's
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  Speaker 2: the physicality ramps up? That's when you start to see
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  Speaker 2: the antsiness and the angst wrap up. If I'm a coach,
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  Speaker 2: I like that in my player. I like to see
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  Speaker 2: them ramping up and getting p o'd and all this. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see them fight. I don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: See anybody get hurt in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, a couple of face mask tugs I
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  Speaker 2: think is acceptable. But if I'm a coach, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: to myself, I want to get to that first preseason game,
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  Speaker 2: and whoever is going to play, they can get some
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  Speaker 2: of that crap out on the Atlanta Falcons a week
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  Speaker 2: from a week from Friday. That's that's what I want
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  Speaker 2: to do. I don't want to see anybody get hurt,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't mind my guys being angry and and
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  Speaker 2: angst ridden it in a little pod.
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  Speaker 4: I was shocked yesterday when the team came out in
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  Speaker 4: pads again. I thought yesterday was going to be a
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  Speaker 4: non padded day, a little bit more speedwork. You we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna see one on ones down the field with DB's
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  Speaker 4: and corners, but not in pads. It's so very clear
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  Speaker 4: that with Sean leaving later on in the week, you
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  Speaker 4: he squeezing the juice out of this early on, right,
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  Speaker 4: and today is gonna be He said this on Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: and we've we've said it multiple times in the show.
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  Speaker 4: We expect two and a half hours. We expect a
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  Speaker 4: lot of hitting, a lot of pads. We've already got
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  Speaker 4: the the pass rush dummies out in front of us
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  Speaker 4: right now. It should be a really good long day
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  Speaker 4: of practice on a day that it's you know, like
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  Speaker 4: it's not hot. It's gonna be ninety eight tomorrow, it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be close to one hundred later.
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  Speaker 1: On Saturday, it's gonna be one hundred degrees.
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  Speaker 4: This is the This is the perfect day to have
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  Speaker 4: the longest practice of training.
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  Speaker 1: Are they off Saturday?
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  Speaker 4: They are on Saturday, So this is the only stretch
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  Speaker 4: of the season that they were They will go six straight,
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  Speaker 4: six straight days, the.
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  Speaker 1: Only rare, that's very rare to go six straight days.
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  Speaker 4: Sean won't be there on Saturday. We expect what Vance
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  Speaker 4: to run the practices. Yeah, I mean runs the practice.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Advance is gonna run it. I won'n't be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if they cancel that sucker. If he's gone and he
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  Speaker 1: sees what he needs to see, so he sees what
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  Speaker 1: he needs to see before he leaves, he may give
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  Speaker 1: him a little respite. Well does he need to see
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Whatever he thinks he needs to see
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. Well, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: he wants.
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  Speaker 2: To see cohesion, he wants to see crisp, he wants
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  Speaker 2: to see execution, and maybe if his guys are a
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  Speaker 2: little bit further along in his head, maybe maybe that
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  Speaker 2: that that could happen. But look, every I think with
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  Speaker 2: the way things are constructed nowadays, with the CBA and
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  Speaker 2: the amount of time you have on the field and
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  Speaker 2: off the field, and everything's down to kind of the minute,
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  Speaker 2: Like you were talking about earlier, Raj, you need to
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  Speaker 2: squeeze every especially now that the preseason is reduced. You
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  Speaker 2: need to squeeze everything you can out of every session.
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  Speaker 2: That's what yo Jery Bednar. He's really good about squeezing.
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  Speaker 2: There's very very little time wasted when the Avalanche ti fish.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very fishing team. I go around the league
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  Speaker 2: and I'll watch teams. You got guys just standing around
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  Speaker 2: for a while and no, I mean guys need to
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  Speaker 2: catch their breath, but then they're right back. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he utilizes practice very efficiently. That's what these coaches are
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  Speaker 2: doing out here.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this yesterday. The drills they're setting
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  Speaker 1: up for drills right now, because practice is about forty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes from the start, and they do various drills
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  Speaker 1: with the tackling dummies, but the sled right. So they
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  Speaker 1: have the sled of four blocking sleds and for five
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry for each lineman and they hit their dummy
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  Speaker 1: and they push the sled, and I'm thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 1: what if you put like mosure on one end and
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  Speaker 1: the sled just went in the circus he couldn't met
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  Speaker 1: more on the left side, and we couldn't move and
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  Speaker 1: do it. I'm dead serious.
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  Speaker 2: Probably the three of us, we could probably get it
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  Speaker 2: the budge, but you know what I mean, have you ever.
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  Speaker 1: Tried to move? Have you ever been in front of
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  Speaker 1: that sled over the dude? That thing is not easy.
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  Speaker 1: It's heavy. There's iron, it's heavy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks heavy. I don't think that looks like
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  Speaker 4: a pie.
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  Speaker 1: They set up the terrible and and and the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: BO will get behind the lineman and they'll run a
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  Speaker 1: play with the running back and the sled will move,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes the sled will be at an angle because
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  Speaker 1: a couple of the linemen on the right side will
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  Speaker 1: just be stronger or more energetic than the guys are
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  Speaker 1: trums over there. And it's funny as I'm watching this,
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  Speaker 1: because the coaches will be like, you know, they'll yell
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  Speaker 1: at them because they're not in unison and they're not
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  Speaker 1: they're not using the same power. I would kill to
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  Speaker 1: see the three of us at one end.
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  Speaker 4: It would be such a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: Three of us try and push, go, run and circle
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  Speaker 2: like you're mowing one of those circular, circular farmland things.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny. It's the gods honest truth, though. Man, those
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  Speaker 2: things are hard to move.
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  Speaker 4: Lombardi Cane with Raj filling in for the rest of
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  Speaker 4: the week. Don't worry, Kne's gonna be back on Monday morning,
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  Speaker 4: brighton at six am, about thirty minutes before players. Actually,
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  Speaker 4: I do see a player walking out onto the field
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  Speaker 4: right now in full pads ahead of Wednesday's practice. Supposed
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  Speaker 2: rabbit of training camp when I haven't seen a rabbit
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: out here in a long time. But I don't even
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: know where the dude came from. I don't even know
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: how the hell he gets in.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Where did most of them come from? Up? But we
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of living in our their mom their mom.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's where buddies come from not wrong, dude,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know you tell me man.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Hey, I heard Nate Andy talking yesterday afternoon about the
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Peyton Watson situation and the you mean Payton Watson. Hey,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to give you your tease six and a
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: half paint dollar paint the Watson, the six and a
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: half million dollar qualifying offer that there's a possibility he
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: could play on this year if the long term deal
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: doesn't like come to fruition. It's very clear that the
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: thirty million dollar range is not there. The twenty five
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: million dollar range where he wants to be paid as much,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: if not more than Christian Brown, doesn't seem to be
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: there on the open market. And Nate came to the
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: conclusion that if he does play in the six and
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: a half million dollar offer, he is not a long
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: term nugget.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Do you agree with I do? And unless unless he
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: has such a great year that the Nuggets blow it
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: wide open in an unrestricted free agency and decide to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: pay him more than anybody else, And maybe feelings aren't
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: hurt enough, and maybe that they're both gonna settle on. Hey,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: we'll bring you back at this number. We knew you
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: were always as good. You just proved it to us.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Now and he takes it, who knows, But I think
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the likelihood is if he takes the qualifying offer, this
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: will be his last season as a Nugget. That's probably
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the most likely.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think unless the yeah, I think
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be gone. I've been saying that for some
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: time now that if he takes the qualifying offer and
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: plays it just over six, there's no way I even
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: if the Denver Nuggets offered the same money.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Because you know, you can't. You can't renegotiate once you
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: take that offer right for the season.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what're the season.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: But what would preclude the Denver Nuggets from Let's say
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: he gets off to a kick ass November and December.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Can they not sign him to a long term extension
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: in January? I'm not sure if you, because it happens
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: in the NHL all the time, Guys signed extensions in
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the middle.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Of the season. I don't know if you're just locked
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: in and you have to wait. But then why would
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he do that? Not enter unrestricted free agency? Because if
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you go UFA, that that's a moneymaker for any player agreed.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Why would you not do that? I, Vick, I know
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: that's what this is why you've been saying, it's a
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: gamble for everybody.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: If he does that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: It's a gamble for him because if he doesn't play well,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: he's not going to get the money he wants. And
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it's a gamble for the Denver Nuggets because if he does,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: he's going to be gone anyway, and I'm gonna worry.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: This is what I brought up to rush about hurt feelings, Vic,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I know, and guys you know, they get feelings hurt
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and they want to separate themselves.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I would qualify this entire Peyton Watson proceeding here as
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: unfortunate for both parties. For Peyton, it's unfortunate that he's
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: an RFA, and being an RFA is going to that's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: going to tamp down the value sucks. It's unfortunate for
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets that they're in a position where they're in
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the second apron because I know if they weren't there
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and they had money available to them, that they would
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: pay him, maybe not everything he wants, but they would
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: be paying him. They want to develop him, they drafted him,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: they want to cultivate that they want him, it's just
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: they don't have the means to give him.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: What's the sweet spot to get him here long term?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: It's very clearly not.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I think. The only way that you retain the services
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of Peyton Watson now unless there's a sign of trade
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that eliminates all that, is to offer a bridge deal
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that makes sense for both sides. A bridge deal of
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: two years where he's like, Okay, I'm going to triple
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: my income. It's not what I want on the open market,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: but at least I've got a big pay raise, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: then I have a chance at the age of twenty
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: five or twenty six to really go big. If he's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: welcome to that, I think and Nuggets will be welcome
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to give him that bridge.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: A player cannot sign a contract extension while actively in
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: restricted free agency. The restricted free agent must first resolve
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: their status by accepting a qualifying offer, signing an offer
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: sheet to a different team, or signing a brand new
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: standard contract before any future extension rules apply. Okay, the
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: way that I read that is if you qualify and
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: you accept, you play the season on it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: On that and you can't extend until after that. That's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the way that I read exactly right, and then you
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: become an unrestricted free agent where every team gets a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: shot at doing that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But they could they could try to do a sign
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and trade Vic and at least get something back if
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: they feel like he's going.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: To leave Bridge up Bridge.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's a wrong with it at all.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know that is that gonna make him happy?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Is that going to make I would take it? If
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I'm the Denver Nuggets, I would I would offer that, Well,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: you should probably take if you're Watson too. If it's
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a two year deal, you are still square in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: middle of the first of let's call it two big
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: time in Reay contracts. It's not like he's going to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: be twenty seven then he's gonna be twenty five. He's
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: still a very young player. I would take that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: The six and a half million dollar qualifying offer for me,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: if I'm in the Watson camp is far more of
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: a risk, because you think that the only way that
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets can retain his services is if the Nuggets
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: outperform and Peyton Watson is who he was in that
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: month and a half sample size. I think there's two
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: ways that they can retain him. If he gets hurt,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: they can retain him. Because that's one of the knocks
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: against Peyton Watson is yeah, he's good, he's young, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: he doesn't stay healthy. The other way is if he
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: doesn't progress, if he regresses just a little bit as
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: compared to what we saw when he was on the
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: court without Nicole Jokic, there's another way that you could
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: look at this, At the RFA situation. That's that's why
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I get so ugly with these players.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You go to.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Arbitration, you bring in a third party, the team looks
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: at you and goes, we don't think you're this, we
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: don't think you're that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: But but it Brodie gets back to the hurt feelings
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: that you you know, you didn't you didn't respect my
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: wishes at the time.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: The Ryan O'Reilly situation.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Sure, I'm not gonna stick.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And when a guy gets to UFA, it's a very
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: desirable position to be in. And we've already said that
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the UFA money will be more than the RFA money
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: is right now, and he'll have the opportunity to go
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and play wherever he wants to play. It's just it's
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: an incredibly precarious position that Unfortunately, Yeah, Vick, like you said,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: he finds himself in the market's kind of dried up
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and it's not out there what he's looking for. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: for the Denver Nuggets, all right, they're in cap excuse me,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: cap hell right now, and they don't want to be
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: in that second apron right now.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I have another topic I wanted to get to because
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I heard the Afternoon show talk about this and they
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to ask you guys, because this has been brought up.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Friend of mine actually brought this up. He said, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson took a pay cut to start paying other
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: players to assemble the championship team. Victor wimbin Yama took
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: less in this offseason to offer some opportunity for other
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: players to assemble a better team. Why is it Joker
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: taking less or why win? Why wouldn't he be willing
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to take less to help the Nuggets out of this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: financial spiral that they're in. And I thought about that question,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I really did. I said, God, I wonder what would
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you do with that? I mean, could you possibly even
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: entertain that with Joker? It would have to come from
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: his camp. It couldn't be the other way around, right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It would have to be. But then the more I
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: thought about it, I said, Okay, wait a minute, why
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: would you limit that just to your best player? What
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: about the other guys. If you're gonna ask Joker to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: do it, why not Jamal Murray? Why not Aaron Gordon?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Why not Christian Brown? Why not everybody take a little bit?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: If the intent is, well, you know, you want the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: best possible team, why is it always just one player
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that has to sacrifice that money?
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Well, it does start with one player, and I think
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: if you look at the Avalanche, it started with Nathan McKinnon. Now,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: McKinnon made more money than any forward at that point
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: in NHL history, but he could have bent Colorado over
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the barrel, and he didn't. He just asked for one
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars more per year than Caught McDavid was
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: asking for. And that is the hope is that he
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: is set a precedent with the Avalanche of that, like
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: if or Kel mccarr wants twenty million dollars, he's gonna
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: get twenty million, But the hope is that he takes
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: seventeen or eighteen because the president was set by Nate
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and you hope that trickles down.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So I did.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I floated that idea about NICOLEA yok At earlier, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I've gotten roasted on the text line about it. The
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: difference between Nicola and Wemby and Brunson is that Joker
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: has already delivered his championships three He's already delivered, right.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Brunson and Webber Yama have not delivered that championship or
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: those league wide accolades outside.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Well, he just did. I mean, Brunson just did, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: did it before.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: That's a takeup before the championship.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That is correct. That is correct.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: The next time that Jalen Brunson signs the deals, he
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: take another pay cut. Are you sure about that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. I'm thinking back to here.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Do you remember Vic eleven years ago, Peyton Manning, Remember
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: what happened with him in the Denver Broncos.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: He took his money, they took it. He took a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: pay cut, they took a big haircut, but he made
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it all back and incentives.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I got you, But I'm just saying that that they
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: came to him and said, hey, dude, you want to win,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: we need some of that money back. And and I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: not sure he was really happy about it at the time.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But he did make it back and that's all well
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and good. But it's not unprecedented to ask guys to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: do that. Hell, you know, I think back Raj John
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Elway for this team as a player, he could have
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: gotten more money, He could have certain things were I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: think promised and expected that never came to fruition.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: But okay, so what do you think about this? Then?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Would you go to Joker and even entertain that? Would you? Can? You?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Is it an affront? Is it? I wouldn't. I think
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't mess with the players money that's on. If
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he wishes to volunteer, that he can. But I don't
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: think you could play that game.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I think you can play it with him.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can because I think my reaction
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: would be, Okay, I'll do it if Jamal does it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'll do it if Jamie, if j.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: When is his contract in Jamal's twenty thirty okay, it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: his contract, sorry, twenty twenty nine, fifty seven million at
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the end of that contract.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. What's Aaron Gordon's contract?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon's contract runs out the same year.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Twenty ok But he's gonna be thirty three years. So man,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: if I'm Nikola Jokic, if somebody's coming to me saying,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: hey can give back some money, I'd be like, great,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: let's make it a democratic process.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I agree, sure, but why not try that?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: When's Joker's contract up at the end of next season exactly,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: so it's it comes up earlier, so he's the next
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: one of the.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Dods twenty seven, twenty eight years.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would not ask him. I would.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I would ask him. I would say Supermax or that's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I'd go super.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: How I would do it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I would walk through and take it a little bit,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and I would no, I wouldn't even say that I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: goes Supermatch or you know, and he goes super Max. Yes, okay,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: super ex it is. I mean, whatever he wants to do,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you can suggest it in a way without saying, hey,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: big fellow, you want to take a little less bread
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and we can stand out the apron and go get
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: this guy and blah blah blah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: You can suggest it because if he goes screw, you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the max amount. You go, okay, here's the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: max amount, and he stays because he's not going anywhere else.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the most money he can make is by
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: staying with the Denver Nuggets because he's a Denver nugget
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and they can pay him more than any other team
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: out there. That's it. I think some people still fail
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to understand that even if he becomes a free agent,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: he makes more here than he would anywhere else. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: say what you want, dude. I mean, these guys like
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: their money and there's nothing wrong with that. That's part
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: of the job. You earn it. He's earned every penny.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: He's earned every penny that comes his way.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Why haven't we seen something this stupid at Broncos camp?
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Did you guys see the video yesterday of Ceedee Lamb
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: catching passes in front of a trash can with a
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: mosquito net over his head.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I did see that. What is this? What is
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: this for?
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: In what world?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Are you not see the ball until later in the process?
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like that's not how you're not seeing the ball.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: You are never shrouded by like a single go plane.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It's it's moving in front.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Did you see Jerry World? Actually they asked him the
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: question because they brought in shades for the World Cup.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: They asked him the question whether or not that they
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: would bring that in for uh football games, and he goes,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: we're considering it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: They should finally because some of those receivers are It's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: pretty bad, man. Yeah, it it it is.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It's always cracks me up when you see that field
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and you see that line of demarcation where it's like
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you're on the sun or you're completely in the shadow.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Speaking from around camps, did you see what happened yesterday
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in New York Giants camp? Jackson Dart runs into the
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: end zone, scores a touchdown and proceeds to pull a
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: full on Bradley Van Pelt and spike the football off
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: DB's head. Oh yeah, and so he already he threw
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: it at the DB's head. I mean I have spiked it,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: spiked it. The defense got on him on his way
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: back and they they wanted a piece of his butt
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: and hardball Jim Harbaugh's or excuse me John Howell's life.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, John's like enough of that crap kid in the game.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: So what he did is he he called a personal
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: foul uh on the offense and made him back up
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and do it all over again on the on the.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: P A T.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: So it's it's kind of it's kind of funny, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you know, these antics go on all the time, I suppose.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: But over here at Denver Broncos camp, it's been it's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: been pretty much business.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Oh we saw a skirmish yesterday.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a skirmish yesterday. We saw a little
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: bit of personality out of Jayleen Wattle when he roasted
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Pat ser Tan on the first one on one.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: They're good friends.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: There's it's a really fun back and forth between them.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: But like Sirtan walked back around, the crowd went wild
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: and what he didn't do his Wattle celebration, but he
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: kind of like shimmed his shoulders at the at the
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: stadium and then turned around and he and Pat like
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: dapped each other up. Wattle got him again on the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: second one on one, and then when they went into
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: team period, patri Chan clamped him down.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I like, but yeah, I dig that's good. I but
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I like the attitude of of the quarterback here.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine right in front of us hearing this
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: end zone Bonick' running it in for a touchdown and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: throwing the ball off Jquon McMillan's head.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine that, No, exactly right.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm I'm kind of glad that we don't have
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that kind of bull crap that goes on around this place.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, this is a very serious discipline professional team.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I feel bad when they do the one on ones
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: with receivers and dbs because a receiver should win that
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the time. You understand that, right,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: A defensive back without a pass rush and nobody in
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the quarterback's eyes. Do you know how hard that is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: for the guy on the defensive end. Do you know
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: how much easier it is, What an advantage it is
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: for the receiver to get open. It's not that big
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a deal if a receiver catches a pass in one
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: on one drills against a dB. I've always felt that
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was so overrated. Yeah, well, you should be catching passes,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know the route and there's no pass rush.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: It's funny, it's so different from hockey.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: A one on one.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: In hockey, as a four, you're not supposed to win that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: You may win two out of ten. Maybe most of
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: those times it's either poke check, puck's gone, or you're
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: taking a shot from like forty five feet out. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: one on ones, I do agree and it's tough, especially
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: when you do it right in front of the stands.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And everybody's cheering, Oh look at this. Yeah, nobody's at
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks feet, nobody's at the quarterback's arm.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: And then it's very clear when you got into team period,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: just how little room Jalen Waddle had against Pat certain
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: how like Riley Moss showed out in team period yesterday,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Both of those corners did. It's because of how good
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the pass rush is. Because I have great that coverage is.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: You were talking about adding a hockey assist to defensive lineman.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Quarterbacks add the hockey assist to coverage sex.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be almost impossible to ascertain some of this stuff,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: but I think the eye test reveals a lot of it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: But I did, I did, like I did. I thought
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: you proved your point, Vick with that question. Is Zach
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Allen that Hey, look man, you're a just now He
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: did have a couple of years ago he had eight
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and a half sacks, which is pretty damn amazing from
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: his position, right, But he's a he's a pocket disruptor,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and those guys are incredibly valuable. If I'm a defensive
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: if I'm Nick Benito, and I see Zach Allen busting
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: up the middle of that offensive line and forcing a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: quarterback to flush to my side a little bit, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I pick up a I pick up a sack. That
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: guy's getting a steak dinner. I mean, he's making you money.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And I know it all goes together, it all goes
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: hand in hand. But a guy like Zach Allen, you can't.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: I mean their value is underrated, I think by the
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: by the.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Average football fan.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Twenty minutes from practice getting underway here at Broncos Park,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: once again, we are giving away a couple of tickets
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: to Wine Time at Elitz Gardens on Friday, August the
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: twenty eighth, and all you have to do is text
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: to the keyword wine at w I n E Wine
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: to three zho three five four nine to two five
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: will give those tickets away. On the other side.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, Also, for those who have not heard Bi's new mixtape,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: could we do that before the show is over?
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Please?
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: That's next. Someone must have known that Mark Moser was
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: in the house. We're listening to crappy nineteen eighties pop music.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: This is Janet Jackson jack This is nonsense. God, this
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: is It's escapade it's a great song. Oh my god,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Dua Lipa would never. Oh you're an idiot, would never.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Can't believe you just said that. This is trash vic.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Back me up here. I've got my headphones on. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: don't even know what the hell you guys are talking.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: So they're playing. They were just playing some country tune.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Now they've got and they're playing Zach Bryant.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, whatever. Now they've got Janet Jackson on right, getting.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: The crowd, and this is the guy because the people
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: aren't dead.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: It's Janet Jackson. Man, she's unbelievable. I got a story
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: for you regarding that. A couple that one time she
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: showed her in the Super Bowl.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait whoa whoa, oh oh whoa Nelly Nelly, Nelly, Nelly, Nellylly.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You can't Nelly Nelly Nelly say that. Oh my lord.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me uh yes, I remember that
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: racksh thanks thanks for that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Let me what people people are saying that they don't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like Janet Jackson.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, were in standing in Fort
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Lauderdale with the ass right, I had a couple of
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: days off. You know what, the big you know what
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the big story was around that Janet Jackson was staying
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: at the hotel. It was a big deal, bro, Janet
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Jackson was there.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Anyway. That's all I got, man. But I love that song.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I love Escapade. That's it. Come on, Alphonse, give me
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: some of that. You're damn right, Go ahead, Vick Neat anyway,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Back to uh Broncos as the fans are, I can't
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: believe you said. I can't believe. I can't either.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I cannot believe.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: That have arrived and the players are stretching and they're
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: doing all this business. We spoke about it earlier in
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the show and yesterday it was not a coincidence that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the Broncos released the renderings and their drawings of the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: new stadium district and what they're trying to get accomplished.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And the only thing standing in their way right now
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: is some community minded people who want something, and what
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: they want we do not know. We can't come to
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: terms on what they want. Like, what else is there
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to do? Why can't you ask them? Can you go
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to them and ask them what do you want? Well,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: they're not speaking. They have a consultant that they hired
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that that's the consultants so I'm not sure who these
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: people are what they want. But you know, on top
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: of that, we noticed on the renderings there are many
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: parking lots. Like even in the ball Arena redevelopment project,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: all the parking lots are going away and they're building
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: park so parking lots. Many are going to be underground.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: You just can't see them in the renderings. Many are
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: going to be underground, but above ground without that surface area,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: without parking lots, people are wondering and they're asking, where
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: were we going to tailgate? I think tailgating is gonna
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: change its form. I think the way you tailgate maybe
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it may not be next to your car obviously, because
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: your car is not gonna be parked outside the parking lot.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: It's gonna the new phase of tailgating, maybe a new
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: term for it is gonna come into play. And I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what that is. I don't know where it is,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: but it's going to change.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It's gonna look a lot more like what you do
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: before a Rockies game. You're gonna go into that area
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: where there's a there's an open foyer with bars and
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: restaurants and the stuff.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah there's I'm sure, but there's something sentimental in my bones.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, but there's something sentimental in my bones. You know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: you know a guy with a with a camper or
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a you know, a motor home out there, and he's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: got the set up and you got comes out right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the awning right, and you got the table set up,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and you got a TV and you're watching the morning games.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Choked on a setuff. I choked on was a chop,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: but it was a lamb chop. I choked on a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: lamb chop. There's something about being on viitch hog, choking
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: on a lamb chop and down in a corps light
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to uh to wash it all down and save yourself.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And and it's fun and you're you're throwing the football
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: around and you're you know, you're you're having a good time.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: You'll be able to throw a football around. You just
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: won't be able to wheel in a cooler with ninety
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: six cores lights.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You won't have a win of Bago with TV's on
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: people watching other football ball. And here's what I do, man,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: at least I can't. I can't say for sure. And
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and that's why when we sit down and talk to
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Demanie leitch about this. There's going there are going to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: be lots with that available, just not the size that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: there are right now at the current mollyes Well and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you may you see there are lots behind there as
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: in front. There's gonna be lots in between. There's gonna
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: be underground lots, but it's not gonna be the expansiveness
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that we're used to.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I see this area in the North end called the
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: North Tailgate? Is that? Will that be a tailgating section?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: A different kind of gated as we've expressed, it won't
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: be open lots with people in Winnabagos.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: And you know what I do, and I'm not gonna
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: tell you what I do because I want this.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: How much? How much will it cost to live there? Can?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Are they going to sell condos or they are they apartments? Okay,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: so here's what you do.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: You open up just you open up your condo on
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: football on game days for people to come in and
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: tailgate inside your condo.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Right at the stage, that's.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Just screaming of liability. Why could you imagine a set
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: of two hundred stranger lunatics in your home?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: What's not fabout.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Make it a football suite and have people come to
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: your pay pay twenty bucks ahead to come in and
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: u and tail getting your condo.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: How I Met your mother? Did a whole episode on this?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: They didn't, Yeah, they did.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: It just gets it'll get trapsed.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: To watch that show. Yeah, you're probably right, I guess
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it would.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: You can't do that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Plus, who's going to clean the dog clog toilet? And
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you're turning your apartment into a bar at some point?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Where's your liquor license?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: B yo, B But you got a place to hang
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: right by the stadium.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: If there's an area to tailgate, if there's an area
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: to set up a tent and bring your own cooler
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: and bring your own your own grills, I think that
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: would appease a large part of the things.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I have to say. Because I'm working Broncos games, I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: not really tailgating a ten sum but when I go
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: back to college football games, I'm tailgating all the time.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And take that away that that that's the honored tradition.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love that part of it. Hanging out
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: with friends, right, that's that's the best part of it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm gonna talgate, you know what.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I also like to do RAJ. You know you're gonna
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: find it hard to believe. But I like to roam
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit and go look at what other people
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: set up looks like, you know, and and because everybody
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: there is that you're there for the same purpose.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not making any comments about about music anymore, you know, no, no,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: but but the point is that I've made my one
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: comments about music. It might cost me.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: But but uh, you know, you go and you see
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: what other people got, and you everybody's there to have
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: a good time, and everybody's there for the common goal
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and that support your team, and.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's a it's a it's a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: big family, is what it is.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: So you're a tailgate amba you don't state your own tailgate.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I no, I don't just walk around and you like
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: look and say, hey, what your cooking.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I don't tailgate very often because I'm usually I'm usually
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: working or whatever it is I'm doing. But I like
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to go and when I when I have tailgated, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to go and check out other people set up.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: And WHATNOTU Texter nine seven nine nine says they're too
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: they're going to kill tailgating. But you guys are too
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: scared to say it. Well, we're essentially just saying it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: It's gonna change. It's not gonna be the tailgate you
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: see now. It's gonna be much smaller. It's gonna be
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: much more dispersed. Yeah, I mean it's you don't You're
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: not gonna have a huge parking lot surrounding the stadium.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Do you think, Vic, there's an opportunity for for other
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: landowners around the area to make parking lots close close enough,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and then you can tailgate in that lot.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So again I ask you, I'll give you an example.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Wrigley Field. You go to Wrigley, you go to Cubs games,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: there's always a party somewhere. Well, yeah, there's always a
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: party in some some section around Wrigley Field.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: There used to be a Killer There used to be
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: a Killer reggae bar next to the Cubby Bear.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: The second straight day, by the way, that Courtland Sutton
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: is not in pads with his teammates. Yesterday it was
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: described as a veteran day off. Is that now two
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: straight veteran days for Courtear Sutton.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks fine. He's throwing the football around. He
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't think there's any problems taking it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a little odd that he's taken two
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: straight days, considering this is like the Marquee practice day
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: of the week.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: The one that I was.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Throwing around during the appetizer hour was a guy coming
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: off of injury who has a well documented injury history
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: in his career, in JK. Dobbins, When is his day
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: going to be? I don't have eyes on JK. Dobbins yet.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Well, if I was a veteran and I was granted
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: a day off or two days off the two and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a half hour practice day, he might be one that
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I chose. I don't think Sean Payton's too worried about
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton fitting into this offense, you know, coming up
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: tomorrow or the next day.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Justine Gernaud. This is something that
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Zach Allen told me yesterday. I said, who's that guy
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: on the team that's always offering like investment advice, financial advice?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: He says, yeah, Justine Jernaud. I goes, doesn't work. He goes,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not trying it. But he always
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: comes in and says, hey, guys, you guys gotta do this.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: You guys gotta do it. You know how, there's always
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that guy. Every team has that guy. Justice Jernad's that
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: guy for the Broncos.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: He's the crypto bro and he's the dude.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: He's the dude. Hey, I got some bitcoin, I got this.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: You guys gonna do that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: By the way, Spencer, our buddy Spencer Smith says, come
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: on out to the d nv R tailgate this year
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: right by empower ticket right tickets on me.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I've been to that tailgate and that is a good tailgate.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Well, they know how to do it. They own a bar.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, that's but that d nv R tail gates
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a good tailgate.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: It's way up, way up top.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Before we get to a fact checker, fella's biggest things
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: you are looking forward to for today's practice.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I want to see that intensity continue. I want to
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: see some hitting. I want to see some little nastiness.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I want to see guys get after it a little bit.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: This is the day to do it. They're in full
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: pads today, RAJ full full pads and they go along.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So I'm guessing. I'm guessing there's gonna be some hurt
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: feelings and I like that. I'm down with that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I want to see if we can spot Nick Benito
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: anywhere in or out of pads. Is he even on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the sideline.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Or I have not seen a Nick Benito sighting quite yet. Again,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: the only thing of note is that Cortland Sutton for
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: the second straight day is not in pads, and again
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: yesterday that was explained to the media as it's a
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: veteran day and there are going to be other players
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: who get veteran days throughout practice, whether it's because they
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: are older. Yes, you got you.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Got stripe showing up here. Stripes can do this thing.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: They got the referees out today, surprise that we weren't
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: pointing in another rabbit. Yeah, well I could point a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: d maac. We's got frigging Arizona State underwear on today
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: to I mean.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: God, oh that's not a fork? Is this the forcum?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah? There you go. You overloaded there. You can't go
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: shirt and hat dude.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. You can't double logo it. You can't
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: do that thing. Hey, Nellie, where do we go wrong today?
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I have a couple of clips here that should demonstrate
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: what it's like being in the mind of one Mark Moser.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: First of all, you guys were talking about the stadium
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: earlier today, the new Broncos Stadium and some of the
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: challenges facing it. Here's let me just set this up.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Here's the first part.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: We'll get back into the conversation around the Broncos new
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: stadium district later on in.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: The show, we have to I'm kind of sick of
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: this man. These people make me mad.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: One commercial break later, Yes.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: We got a text your last thought on this? You
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: know what, I don't really want to get back into it,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: but hey from the ninety nine.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: And then you guys started talking about the stadium again.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: He steered the conversation right back to it most you
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: got to make your mind. Uh second thing, this is
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: about an hour later. Mos got a little distracted.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Should there be a stat like a sack assist? Look
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: at that mother, Sorry, Vick, that's the first rabbit of training.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Look at him. He's going to the bathroom. Look at it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I still don't know what this.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Can we can we bounce out with Vic's new song please,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: because I was in the middle of a thought about
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Zach Allen and Vic started going crazy on Bonnicks.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Hey, congratulations. Two hour Winter Eric Phillips, you're going to
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: wine time and yeah, you know what. On that note,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: let's get out of here. The Training Camp show is
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: coming up. Crank CRANKD Mack and Columbus Hastings and Coach Sandford.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: The latest from mc lombardi.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Now we have Bonnicks walking the field barefoot while snacking
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: on something, snacking, walking, eating, walking, walking, eating, snacking, walking, snacking, walking, eating, walking, walking, eating,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: snacking walking, snacking, walking, eating, walking, walking, eating, snacking walking.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I want to put that to a beat.