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The VIKINGS come back to beat the BEARS on Monday Night Football! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  They're going to have a ton of money to spend.
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  Why not put it in one of the top three offensive players in the
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  league? We're going to be looking at
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  Aaron Judge and saying that he can't win the big game, Michael
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  Jordan said. I played 82 games.
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  You don't see the one doing that A.
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  Game where you got to go for four.
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  I told you giant feet. Save More Barkley and this
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  am. My name is Errol Marx, my Co
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  host Jabba Chamberlain and the speedster 631-672-3108 is then
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  I'm going to call you just heard our executive producer Mr. Aaron
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  Fish Fishman. No Tommy poops.
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  I don't know where he is on the board right now is Speedy.
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  Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's been raining all day here in
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  Long Island, New York. If you like the rain, well, I
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  like dancing in the rain. I don't know if anybody's done
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  it. I've done it many, many times.
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  It was misty today. I was acting like a Jackass over
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  there at Math Mather and I was dancing on the sidewalk.
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  And then these girls, I guess nurses, were walking around
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  getting their cardio and they were looking at me and thought I
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  was absolutely nuts. So I am a little nuts.
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  If you don't listen to this show, you would probably know
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  that I'm little, little nuts, a little nutty.
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  But yeah, I, I like to do stupid things.
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  Usually half the day. And then as we move forward
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  later in the day, I do even more interesting things.
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  But nevertheless, I wasn't doing anything that got me in trouble.
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  So that's a good sign. Jabba, what's going on with you,
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  man? I know you've been doing your
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  cardio. You're eating your yogurt.
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  You're staying healthy. 36 lbs down right now, Mr. Chamberlain.
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  Nothing. It got up to 88 today, so it was
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  kind of hot. 88 over there. Right now, yeah, it's, I mean,
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  we were what it was down to like 48 I think last week.
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  And now back up to we'll have like a few days of this, then
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  I'll go back to the normal. We'll see if we actually get
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  some fall weather, which will be nice because the fall around
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  here, when leaves start changing and everything, that's always,
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  always a good time around here. I like the fall, I like the
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  fall, I like when the leaves are falling down.
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  The only thing I hate about the fall is when all the leaves are
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  off the trees and you got to clean up and it gets wet and
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  soggy. The leaves get wet and soggy and
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  if you're doing are you cleaning off the lawn?
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  It takes forever to clean up, and that's what.
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  You have to do Do you bag your leaves or do you mulch them?
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  IA lot of people over here they don't even do it.
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  What they do is they hire all these different companies to do
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  it for them because I live in a very yeah, they I live in a very
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  rich neighborhood, so they're all they're all hiring people to
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  do it. They don't even want to do it.
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  My landlord, he, he actually enjoys doing it.
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  So he mulches them. Sometimes he picks it up
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  depending on where it is because he's got a lot of trees and a
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  lot of bushes. So you got to go in it and you
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  got to pull it out. So usually in the bushes he's
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  bagging them, on the on the grass he's usually mulching
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  them, but he's very particular on how he takes care of his lawn
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  and his property. I've had some bad experiences
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  jumping into leave piles with sticks when you're a kid you
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  don't like as a grown up, you think about it because you know
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  you're doing it for your kids. But then as a kid, like you
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  don't care. Like I'm just jumping in.
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  I've been stabbed with sticks so many times.
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  But those are the fun memories you remember as a kid jumping in
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  to leave piles and playing, playing pickle in the front
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  yard. Those are all at the good time.
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  What the hell is playing between the trees?
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  Oh. I I between.
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  The trees, man. Playing pickle here is a
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  completely different thing to do.
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  I mean, if you're playing pickle, you're getting yourself
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  into trouble. You might go to jail, if you
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  know what I mean. Yeah, well, we're not, we're not
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  playing yet hiding the pickle. We're playing rundown.
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  I don't know, like Sandlot, right?
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  That's, I mean pickle. See the pickle you're from?
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  You're from Long Island, dude. It's a who knows what who's
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  knows what's going in your orpis.
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  Is over there orpis is? Speedy finally knows what that
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  is after about two months. No, I don't cuz I don't cuz
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  Errol's laughing. I know it's something like that.
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  Yeah. He wouldn't crack up that hard
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  unless it was involving something about me.
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  Well, I I don't. Like no, we we all have them.
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  Yeah, I believe it. Speedy likes to play with his
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  own fiddle. You know he doesn't.
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  He doesn't like to climb Roof is, if you know what I mean.
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  Anyways, yeah, it's been a a crazy week and I know a lot of
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  people are enjoying their time. Sports is really starting to
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  pick up. You got the football season.
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  We're going already in Week 2. It's crazy.
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  We have a big game coming up on Thursday Night Football.
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  You have the Packers, Yes, two possible playoff team sitting
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  there right now, the commanders and the Packers.
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  The Packers, we saw what they did in game number one against a
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  very good line team and the commanders absolutely demolished
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  the New York Giants and, and the Giants, you know, they, they
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  stayed close. But I, I want to see Daniels,
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  Jaden Daniels actually pick up his game a little bit better
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  against this Green Bay Packer team.
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  And they're going into Green Bay.
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  It's going to be loud. People are going to be crazy
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  over there. And it's not a cold time.
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  So I guess the commanders are going into Green Bay at the
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  perfect time. They don't have to deal with
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  that freezing or what do they call it, the frozen tundra over
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  there. You don't want to go over there
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  in Green Bay when it's cold and you have all these people
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  wearing no shirts. I have no idea.
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  Has anybody watched these Green Bay Packers soccer games in, in
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  the month of January? These the fans are nuts.
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  They're nuts. It's below 0 and they're sitting
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  out there with just their underwear and, and no shirt.
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  No, no pants, no nothing. It it does, I don't know how
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  they do it. I would probably, I'd probably
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  go to the hospital after the game because I would probably
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  have frostbite in many different areas.
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  If you know. What they're not.
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  They're not the only place, though.
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  The Bills do it. Yeah, a lot of cold places.
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  Not, not as many, I don't think. Java there's enough.
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  There's enough players that try to be cocky and try to do it to
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  warming up shirtless before the games, AKA the 2016 New York
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  Giants. Everyone can play about the boat
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  trip, then everyone else's on offense is warming up shirtless.
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  I think besides Eli Manic. I didn't.
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  I didn't like to like when it was cold and they're obviously
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  playing a little bit different, but like when I would warm up
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  when it was cold, I didn't like to sit in front of the like the
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  warmer or the heater or the fan just because I wanted to.
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  I wanted to warm up like it was going to be, It's not like I
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  have a fan, a heater blowing on me when I'm in the game.
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  So as soon as I'd get called, I would stretch, I would have my
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  jacket on. But as soon as I would, I would
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  get warm. I would, I would have them turn
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  it off or turn it towards the guys that were sitting in the
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  pen. I just, I, I didn't like it.
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  And to be Tommy tough nuts where they're on the field and like
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  their bodies are steaming and stuff.
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  I'm like, no, no. I like that tick, Tommy.
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  Tough nuts. Tommy is not playing with his
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  nuts right now over here at the board.
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  I don't know where Tommy is. What happened to Tommy?
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  Tommy Poops is not in the studios right now.
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  That's an interesting story. Jabba, by the way.
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  He probably fell in. Probably fell in the pooper.
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  I maybe drown in the pooper. It doesn't make any sense.
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  I usually go that. Far.
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  Well, I'm a little lost today. There's a lot of stuff going on
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  in the world. I'm not going to mention it.
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  We don't go into politics, but it's crazy.
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  The world is crazy. And that's why we try to take
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  you away from all the politics and all the craziness and, and
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  you get a chance to sit down and, and, and, and listen to our
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  takes, what's going on in sports and, and the craziness.
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  And it kind of keeps you away from all the nutty stuff that's
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  going on where you just want to either jump off a bridge or jump
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  off a building because it's just nuts right now all over the
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  world. But nevertheless, we have a
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  great show lined up for you. But I want to give a shout out.
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  I was hanging out yesterday at Miller's Ale House with one of
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  my good friends, Leaf. He's the manager of Miller's Ale
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  House. I, I reached out to him.
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  I said I'm coming up and he, he, me and him sat and we were
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  speaking about sports for 2 1/2 hours.
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  He's a big sports fan. And I got to hang out with Danny
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  Speedy, I know you love Danny, Crazy, crazy Danny.
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  So we, we really enjoyed ourselves.
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  We were talking baseball and football and fantasy is in our
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  fantasy right now. He's under the fantasy league.
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  So I want to give a shout out to my friend Leaf.
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  He's by the way, he's engaged, he's getting married next year.
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  He's very excited and I'm excited for my pal.
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  I've I've been friends with him since middle school.
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  Absolutely love him. So congratulations to Leaf and
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  very excited for him and his future with his future wife.
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  So shout out to the Leaf boy. In an electric fourth quarter
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  comeback by the Vikings and quarterback JJ McCarthy,
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  Minnesota took down the rival and their rival, the one and
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  only Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football.
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  The Vikings were down 17 to 6 after JJ McCarthy threw a pick
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  six and out outscored the Bears 21 to 7 in the rest of the game.
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  McCarthy finished 13 for 20 for 143 yards, 2 passing touchdowns,
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  1 interception with two carries for 25 yards and a rushing
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  touchdown. The Bears have 3 blown fourth
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  quarter leads since the second-half of last year and
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  have lost ten of their last 11 total games.
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  The Bears offensive line struggle despite their offseason
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  improvements, allowing 3 sacks while Caleb Williams scrambling
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  was almost half of the Bears rushing attack.
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  Williams was effective for new coach Ben Johnson, going 21 for
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  35 with 210 passing yards and a touchdown with 58 more on the
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  ground with a rushing touchdown in a losing effort on a prime
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  time channel, baby. And you know what channel we're
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  talking about. But here's the thing, I, I, I
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  love Caleb Williams. I love everything about him.
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  I followed him all the way through USC and, and well, we
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  all know what Caleb Williams was with, with Lincoln Riley.
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  This is a guy that has a tremendous amount of talent.
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  He is his ability to move outside of the pocket, make
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  throws. I compared his talents to Aaron
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  Rodgers. That's the type of player he is.
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  He is sensational to watch. He can do so many things on the
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  football field that would just make you just say wow, this guy
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  is as good as anybody we've seen at the quarterback position come
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  out of the draft over the last ten seasons.
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  The problem with Caleb Williams is his mouth.
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  He blabbers things. He does things off the field.
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  He speaks to the media wrong. He goes into the, I guess the
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  video room, sitting down with players, the quarterback room,
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  as a story came out recently before the season started that
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  Kayla Williams couldn't sit in with the quarterbacks because
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  they were attacking him on the way he looked at plays, the way
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  he didn't see the plays. And Ben Johnson is a very
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  particular person offensively. You know, the type of coach he
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  is. You saw what he did with the
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  Lions. He transformed the Lions offense
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  for the last 5-6 seasons. So we know what Ben Johnson is.
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  Ben Johnson walking into this Chicago Bears, Bears
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  organization, you would have thought this would have changed
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  a little bit. This is not Eberfluse.
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  We all know whateverfluse was when he took over this job,
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  almost Four Seasons over there with Chicago, you wondered if
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  Eberfluse was ever going to figure it out as a head coach,
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  and he didn't. They had Justin Fields.
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  He couldn't develop Justin Fields.
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  Then they kept them. Chicago kept ever flew stand for
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  another year. They had it.
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  He had a chance to coach Caleb Williams.
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  It didn't work out. So what did Chicago do?
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  Well, Chicago went into the offseason and they said, you
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  know, we got to find the best offensive mind we possibly can.
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  They landed the best offensive coach available in this past
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  offseason. And what did it do and what did
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  it show in game number one? Well, it shows some interesting
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  information. We saw that Caleb Williams was
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  effective, but only in the first half.
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  In the second-half, Kayla Williams started putting himself
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  into bad situations, throwing the ball in bad situations.
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  He sometimes threw the ball away and, and and he was trying to
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  throw it over the shoulder pass and he was missing wide
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  receivers open in many different parts of the game, especially in
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  the third and fourth quarter. Kayla Williams, to me, if you
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  can get into his mind, he's not the same quarterback and you
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  could see that. And I love what Chicago did in
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  the offseason, adding Tooney and and some of the additions they
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  added to the offensive line. But in the second-half, you saw
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  Minnesota defense, and I'm going to tell you this, Minnesota
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  defense is one of the best defenses in the league,
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  especially how they blitz and they use their different blitz
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  packages, bring up safeties and corners.
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  You saw that in the fourth quarter.
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  They put a lot of pressure on Caleb Williams and that offense.
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  And the one thing I can say that Ben Johnson is so very good at
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  is running the ball. And by the way, they couldn't
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  run the ball in this game no matter who they were handing the
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  ball to. The only person that can run the
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  ball is Gayla Williams. And to me that is a problem.
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  If your best runner is your quarterback and you're not
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  getting any running from Swift or any of the talented players
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  and playmakers that they have in the backfield, you have a
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  problem. And you go and get some
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  Minnesota Viking team that also has a rookie quarterback, JJ
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  McCarthy, who missed his rookie season because he tore what was
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  it, his knee or is Achilles. He.
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  Tore his knee. He was out a whole season.
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  This is his rookie season. And in the first half of the
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  game, a lot of people were taking shots at JJ McCarthy.
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  As a matter of fact, Fish was right there going back and forth
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  telling me all JJ McCarthy doesn't look like he's the real
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  deal, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
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  On social media, everybody was saying that JJ McCarthy is a
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  bust. And then what happened in the
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  fourth quarter, JJ McCarthy settled down.
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  He realized that he has Justin Jefferson on the same team.
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  He made some, you know, quite, quite nice you unusual passes to
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  some of the open guys that he was getting the ball to.
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  And he started using his legs, which he's going to be very,
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  very good at because he's a mobile quarterback.
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  And you got a chance to see a national championship champion
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  player at work at the quarterback position.
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  And why we've heard Jim Harbaugh, who is a very
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  successful college coach and is a very successful NFL coach,
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  come out and say that JJ McCarthy could be the best
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  quarterback in that class. And you're talking about a class
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  which Bo Knicks has shown up to show everybody that he could
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  play and quite a few other quarterbacks that came out of
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  that class. The fact is.
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  Let me ask you a question though.
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  When when you said you can get into Caleb's mind, right?
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  OK, yeah, they're both technically rookies.
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  But do you think like the mental part of the game is is just as
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  much as you work on as a physical aspect?
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  Do you think that year that JJ, because he didn't see panic in
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  him when it was kind of going downhill, do you think him being
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  on the sideline being hurt made him do this more think about it
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  than actually being thrown in the fire and being able to slow
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  it down? I think when he was put in that
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  position to where, yeah, they're both rookies, but he got to see
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  it from the sidelines. He wasn't competing and and
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  doing it at that level. So he had that time and we've
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  seen there and Rogers, the world where they sat behind guys,
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  where we've seen how much that has added value to their game
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  without necessarily throwing them to into the fire
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  immediately. I think that JJ McCarthy is a
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  guy that has a very good coach, a very good offensive mind, and
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  O'Connell that's going to sit there.
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  He's going to explain the XS and the OS on the sideline.
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  You saw, especially in the first half is when JJ McCarthy was
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  getting uncomfortable in in the pocket.
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  You saw after he sat down that the coach sat with him during
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  breaks. He was talking to him, showing
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  him what he saw on the pad. And it it, it explained a little
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  bit to JJ McCarthy what O'Connell would have saw as a
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  starting quarterback on an NFL team.
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  Remember, O'Connell was an NFL quarterback.
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  He was a backup quarterback. But this is a guy that has
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  experience. He worked under Kyle Shanahan.
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  He's worked on a Sean McVeigh. He's worked under good coaches,
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  good offensive minds and O'Connell could go go down as
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  the better, the more talented one out of both those guys if he
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  can develop a quarterback. O'Connell never had a chance to
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  develop his own quarterback. He was handed Cousins, He was
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  handed quarterbacks when he took over the job.
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  So now he has a chance to develop one quarterback, which
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  he's never got a chance to do. And, and I agree with you,
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  Jabba, I think the fact that he has been in these experiences
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  before, he's been in a national title game, he's been in
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  positions where maybe he wasn't playing well or maybe he wasn't
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  seeing the field like he should. He settled down and he realized,
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  hey, listen, I'm a good quarterback.
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  I can make the throws. I got the players on the field
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  and I can use my legs. And you saw that in the fourth
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  quarter, JJ McCarthy, you could see calm down.
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  And as soon as he threw that touchdown to Justin Jefferson,
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  he really started to to feel it and understand what he was
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  seeing on the field. And then everything started to
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  slow down in front of him. And you hear it from
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  quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes said in in his
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  first season, it took six games for him to settle down and, and
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  the game to slow down in front of him.
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  I think JJ, I'm not saying it's slowed down.
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  It's going to slow down now after the first game.
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  But I, if you heard what he said after the game, he said that in
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  the fourth quarter, everything started to slow down.
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  I started seeing things that the coach was telling me on the
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  sidelines. I felt more comfortable stepping
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  into the pocket or moving outside of the pocket and making
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  my my passes and, and, and again, he had a running game.
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  He had Aaron Jones that could catch the ball in the backfield
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  and make plays with his legs. And that was the difference in
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  the game. I think Aaron Jones didn't have
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  one of the best games that that he possibly can have, but Aaron
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  Jones did enough to take the pressure off the young
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  quarterback so he can get settled in and.
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  Get calmed down and play and make the plays that he needed
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  to. So I, I, I think the fact is
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  we're asking and there's a lot of questions.
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  Is this the same old Chicago Bears and is this the Minnesota
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  Viking team that we could believe that is going to
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  challenge the Detroit Lions in the future and the Green Bay
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  Packers in a division that's fully loaded and I'm telling you
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  absolutely loaded because I believe this is the best
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  division in football. I again, Chicago is a team that
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  I think is going anytime I worry for Chicago because they decided
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  to part ways with Justin Fields and now that Ben Johnson's here,
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  maybe Ben Johnson would have found the best attack with maybe
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  a Justin Fields. You could see the difference
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  with Aaron Glenn and Justin Fields, how much it's worked in
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  one game. Maybe Ben Johnson an offensive
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  mind, a valued, you know, scrambling quarterback like
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  Justin Fields. That's the type of quarterback
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  that Ben Johnson can flourish with.
• 20:59
  I don't know. Caleb Williams is kind of like
• 21:01
  that, but he's got a better arm. The fact is, Caleb Williams is
• 21:05
  hard to deal with. I've heard stories.
• 21:07
  He thinks he's bigger and better than he should be.
• 21:10
  And he he he has this ego. And when you go out there over
• 21:15
  and over and over again, and we've seen it, Russell Wilson's
• 21:17
  one of them. Just think about it.
• 21:19
  Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl with one of the greatest
• 21:22
  defenses of all time. And Russell Wilson gets pat on
• 21:25
  the back that he was the reason why they won the Super Bowl.
• 21:28
  And when they threw, when they threw that interception, when he
• 21:31
  threw that interception, what it was a year or two years later
• 21:35
  and, and, and, and the interception of, of that ruin
• 21:39
  the game and, and it cost him another Super Bowl.
• 21:41
  Everybody's going to say, well, Russell Wilson that he, that was
• 21:45
  his chance to prove himself. And he never got a chance to go
• 21:47
  over that and he never could have looked past that.
• 21:50
  And I think that really decided eventually that Russell Wilson
• 21:55
  wasn't the guy anymore that they had to move on from Russell
• 21:58
  Wilson. Russell Wilson is to me a very
• 22:00
  comparable quarterback to Kayla Williams, a guy that wasn't
• 22:04
  drafted at the number one pick like Kayla Williams, but a guy
• 22:07
  that right off the bat took the job from Matt Flynn and
• 22:11
  eventually had a chance to work in with a, a, a great coach.
• 22:15
  And Pete Carroll that understands how to win
• 22:17
  championships because he won a national championship, actually
• 22:20
  won two of them. You you with USC and then
• 22:24
  eventually struggle because he couldn't get along with his own
• 22:26
  teammates. I think that could be a problem
• 22:29
  in Chicago. I don't know if he's going to
• 22:31
  get along with his teammates and eventually his teammates are
• 22:34
  going to give up on him and, and, and eventually put him in a
• 22:38
  put Ben Johnson. Who's the who's the one to step
• 22:41
  up? And, and I mean lack of a better
• 22:43
  term, put him in his place, right?
• 22:46
  I think it's Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson's a young coach.
• 22:48
  Ben Johnson's the one that everybody it was speaking so
• 22:52
  highly about how he transformed the Detroit Lions offense and
• 22:55
  completely turned them into a Super Bowl contender.
• 22:58
  And a lot of people think Ben Johnson's the guy that's going
• 23:01
  to do that with Chicago. I know me and Aaron pick the
• 23:03
  Bears, the win against Minnesota in Week 1 and what happened?
• 23:07
  They choked in the fourth quarter.
• 23:09
  This is very Bear like. We've seen this before.
• 23:13
  Like The Jets, they can't finish Minnesota Soda.
• 23:16
  Say whatever you want about them, they're a team that finds
• 23:18
  a way to finish. Go look.
• 23:20
  But they also have Justin Jefferson and Chicago.
• 23:23
  Look at the weapons they have. DJ Moore is a great wide
• 23:25
  receiver. You got, you got Odunze, who is
• 23:30
  is going to be hopefully one of the elite wide receivers and
• 23:34
  young receivers in the league. They've got weapons.
• 23:36
  Why weren't they using those check downs that Ben Johnson
• 23:40
  likes to use? Remember the Lions, the Lions
• 23:42
  had all these running backs, Montgomery and Gibbs, and then
• 23:46
  he had, he had guys like St. Brown and, and, and great tight
• 23:50
  end play. He had, he has more weapons
• 23:53
  right now with Chicago than he had with the Lions.
• 23:56
  Why weren't they? They're using their wide
• 23:58
  receivers in their tight ends for check downs.
• 24:00
  There was no check downs in the fourth quarter and I think could
• 24:03
  put Caleb Williams in a position to make mistakes and he made a
• 24:07
  lot of them, that's for sure. Yeah, it's a tough break when
• 24:10
  you look at the Bears and how well they played defensively
• 24:12
  through 3/4. And you would think the offense,
• 24:14
  the way that Ben Johnson likes to do it, is going to be able to
• 24:16
  close out that game. And I think like you were
• 24:18
  mentioning, a lot of it has to do with the offensive line still
• 24:20
  having to figure things out. I think to an extent though, a
• 24:23
  lot of these players, the skill players that they have, are
• 24:25
  still on the streak your side. DeAndre Swift had his best year
• 24:30
  in 2021 with Ben Johnson, but still has been a relatively
• 24:33
  streaky running back since then. Tight ends are still trying to
• 24:35
  figure it out Come. That's a good all around guy.
• 24:37
  Not really a a huge threat as a receiver, but can do a little of
• 24:41
  everything. Then you got Colson Loveland or
• 24:42
  they drafted a top ten pick over Tyler Warren, which a lot of
• 24:45
  people thought was a bold pick at the time and really he didn't
• 24:48
  get targeted much either. Where are those other options
• 24:51
  going to come from if Chicago's off?
• 24:52
  I was, I was looking at the game and I, I didn't see, did
• 24:55
  Loveland even get the you got 2. Catches 2 catches for like.
• 24:58
  I didn't even see I, I wasn't watching the full game because I
• 25:01
  was doing the show. I was hosting the show.
• 25:03
  But when I was watching the game and I was glimpsing on the game,
• 25:07
  I didn't see Loveland get targeted enough.
• 25:09
  This is a guy that has tremendous speed, has great
• 25:12
  hands. Everybody thought he might have
• 25:14
  been the steal and the best tight end in the class and they
• 25:18
  he didn't throw him the ball enough.
• 25:20
  And he's the kind of guy and, you know, in Ben Johnson's
• 25:23
  offense, he loves using the tight ends as he loved using the
• 25:26
  tight ends with the Lions. He elevated TJ Hawkinson after
• 25:30
  he had a couple injury riddled seasons to get him some trade
• 25:33
  value in 2022. Then they traded him to the
• 25:35
  Vikings that year and you remember even after that those
• 25:37
  other random tight ends broke out.
• 25:39
  Remember those two that were going off against The Jets that
• 25:41
  one week and a couple other games down the stretch?
• 25:43
  The Lions were playing spoilers and almost made the playoffs a
• 25:45
  lot because of the way he used the tight ends.
• 25:47
  Then obviously Laporta has the big rookie year.
• 25:49
  You did not see that kind of thing in that game.
• 25:51
  Now, I give Brian Flores some credit to obviously Vikings have
• 25:53
  always been a great job along with the Broncos, but those are
• 25:55
  probably the two best like blitz defenses in the league where
• 25:58
  where they discussed. Should have had a job, should
• 26:00
  have had a job in the 100%. He wasn't even interviewed by
• 26:03
  The Jets. He wasn't interviewed by three
• 26:05
  or four of the teams that were looking for head coaches for
• 26:07
  some reason. And a lot of the reasons why
• 26:09
  Brian Flores, we all know the back end with Miami and and
• 26:13
  suing the Miami Dolphins and, and a lot of people didn't like
• 26:16
  that. A lot of owners did not like
• 26:18
  what Brian Flores was trying to do and trying to bring racism
• 26:22
  into the game. But again, he's not wrong for
• 26:25
  what he believed. He was mistreated by Miami.
• 26:28
  He should have been treated a lot better and a lot of a lot of
• 26:30
  owners don't want to deal with that.
• 26:32
  Yeah, and also you look at the way that Flores was able to
• 26:34
  establish that culture with that defense, too.
• 26:36
  Remember, Mike Zimmer kind of wore out their players towards
• 26:38
  the end of his tenure, too. And while he was a good coach, a
• 26:41
  lot of players were taking shots at him and kind of towards the
• 26:43
  end and they needed somebody to revitalize that defense.
• 26:46
  That 2022 defense was so bad and then all of a sudden he takes
• 26:48
  over and they are very good. And you saw what he did to that
• 26:51
  offense in throughout that game in the second-half of the season
• 26:54
  or second-half of the game, 10 points.
• 26:56
  They allowed pick six and made it look like 17.
• 26:58
  But again, the offense took a while to get going.
• 27:00
  But again, I was a bit skeptical with McCarthy, too.
• 27:02
  I thought he was a kind of a more basic quarterback.
• 27:04
  He made some very good intermediate throws, too.
• 27:06
  Granted, Chicago was down to corners.
• 27:08
  At the same time, though, it's a lot of stones for a rookie
• 27:10
  quarterback in prime time to do what he did down 17 to 6.
• 27:14
  So you got to give JJ McCarthy credit there.
• 27:15
  Spread the ball around nicely. Jefferson gave him confidence
• 27:18
  and they use. That right now, I trust.
• 27:20
  Speedy, hold on. Great, great usage of the word
• 27:23
  stones. Wow.
• 27:25
  Well, that was impressive. He doesn't have any stones, we
• 27:27
  all know that. But well, I don't know but that
• 27:30
  that. Flowed.
• 27:30
  He doesn't know how to use his. Stones.
• 27:31
  That is one of the last analogies I thought you'd do.
• 27:35
  You would use. That was speedy.
• 27:37
  Hats off to you, but wow that was impressive.
• 27:39
  Well, don't take that hat off. Hey, I'm not ashamed.
• 27:44
  I told you I love you. Jobs away from bald.
• 27:46
  And I said I love you, I love you.
• 27:48
  Dabba gave me a comment just now.
• 27:49
  I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna criticize
• 27:52
  anything. And that was genuine.
• 27:55
  That wasn't savior. Two years old, I know, but he's
• 27:58
  he's not wrong. JJ McCarthy played very well in
• 28:02
  the fourth quarter when you probably would have thought that
• 28:05
  he would have given up or not realized that he was playing in
• 28:08
  an NFL game. And this is not the college game
• 28:11
  where he's going to find a way to run the ball and try to get
• 28:13
  in the end zone. He did more than that.
• 28:15
  He, he saw the field a little bit different in the fourth
• 28:18
  quarter and he used his best player.
• 28:21
  And when he figured out how to use Justin Jefferson, everything
• 28:24
  thing changed in the fourth quarter.
• 28:26
  Justin Jefferson had how many catches in the fourth quarter?
• 28:28
  I think it was like 4 or five. When you're having those kind of
• 28:31
  catches in the fourth quarter where it opens up the offense,
• 28:34
  then it starts to give him the opportunity to use his legs,
• 28:37
  which he wasn't using really throughout the game.
• 28:40
  I thought it was completely different when he was doing that
• 28:44
  in the fourth quarter. And I think it was unique.
• 28:46
  And I, and I think O'connell's a guy that I trust.
• 28:48
  I, I trust the way he calls games.
• 28:50
  We saw what he's done over the last couple years.
• 28:53
  It's, it's very comparable to a Kyle Shanahan, the way he likes
• 28:56
  to call plays and you see the difference.
• 28:58
  The only thing that I could say that Justin, JJ McCarthy needs
• 29:02
  to do more of is use his legs. This is a guy that is very good
• 29:07
  at seeing the field. I, I know Jim Harbaugh, one of
• 29:10
  the reasons why he recruited JJ McCarthy was the ability that he
• 29:14
  had mobility and the way he can move inside and out of a pocket.
• 29:18
  If he does that, I think he could be one of the more unique
• 29:21
  quarterbacks in this league because he can make those throws
• 29:23
  on the run. It reminds me and I he's better.
• 29:26
  He's a better version of them. And I know Fish doesn't want to
• 29:29
  hear this of a Daniel Jones. That's the type of guy he is.
• 29:32
  He doesn't have, He's got a little bit better of an arm than
• 29:35
  Daniel Jones, but this is a guy that can make the throws on the
• 29:38
  run and he can use his legs. He's a lot faster than he looks.
• 29:42
  He does look a little doofy. He's a pretty boy on the
• 29:44
  football field. But when he sees the field and
• 29:47
  he understands how to find the lanes, he he just runs right to
• 29:50
  him and he's very good at it. I wouldn't say Daniel Jones.
• 29:55
  I would actually give him higher praise.
• 29:57
  You see, because you ain't Daniel would say you ain't
• 29:59
  Daniel. Jones that's fine.
• 30:02
  Wow, I I'm going to say he's a faster Baker Mayfield in the
• 30:05
  with potential to be that guy. He's not Daniel Jones 65.
• 30:08
  This guy's not 65 right, but he's 63, right JJ Mccart he's
• 30:13
  63. But you know, Daniel Jones is is
• 30:15
  remarkably tall and it's one of the he's this type of player
• 30:19
  that I wasn't sure the reason why I wasn't sure I didn't say I
• 30:21
  didn't believe in him. I just said when he came out,
• 30:24
  there was a game his senior year when I think he threw three
• 30:27
  times in the game, a top ten pick.
• 30:29
  And I I know there was weather in that game, but that's not
• 30:31
  what happens, right? And the thing that I think is
• 30:34
  great about him is his leadership abilities.
• 30:36
  I wasn't sure that he could throw it in the NFL level like
• 30:39
  he is right now, but that's his coach too.
• 30:41
  And having a year off to sit, you said it earlier, having that
• 30:44
  like, like red shirt year was probably the best thing that
• 30:48
  could have happened to him. Now that he has that experience
• 30:51
  of doing this, the the board work of learning the NFL game,
• 30:55
  you know, at a higher level and not have to put anything at
• 30:57
  risk. You saw him be a little nervous
• 30:59
  early. And then when it got to winning
• 31:01
  time, this is a guy who knows how to win and this is a guy who
• 31:05
  can lead A-Team. Justin Jefferson, every single
• 31:08
  player on that team going nuts for this guy, they have his back
• 31:11
  already. It was his first game.
• 31:13
  Daniel Jones never had the team's back like that.
• 31:16
  Only beginning in the beginning, that's a Baker Mayfield quality
• 31:18
  in the big in the beginning, the giant fans and the giant players
• 31:22
  were behind Daniel Jones. The one game he had the four
• 31:24
  touchdowns. I remember, I remember the big
• 31:27
  the big game, that game, that game that really stuck out to me
• 31:30
  and why people were making fun of Daniel Jones is when he was
• 31:32
  running for a touchdown and he tripped on his own feet.
• 31:35
  I, I think that's the game that. Really.
• 31:36
  Yeah, the blade of grass. Yeah, when he tripped on his own
• 31:39
  feet, when he had the whole the whole field to run into a
• 31:42
  touchdown, he tripped on his own feet.
• 31:44
  And a lot of Giant fans hate Daniel Jones because he couldn't
• 31:47
  close out certain games because the Giants never gave him an
• 31:50
  offensive line. And and if you look at JJ
• 31:52
  McCarthy, he has an offensive line.
• 31:54
  He's got weapons, he's got a good running game.
• 31:56
  Aaron Jones when healthy is he's really, really good.
• 32:00
  And he can catch the ball in the backfield as well as any running
• 32:04
  back or even some of the slot wide receivers in the league.
• 32:06
  He's very fast. He could definitely hit that
• 32:08
  second, second gear. So I, I think also when you have
• 32:12
  Justin Jefferson, to me when healthy, he's just, there's
• 32:16
  nobody better than him right now in the league except maybe Brian
• 32:19
  Thomas, which I'm always giving. Him high Oh come on, you know
• 32:22
  there's a couple other. Guys, I like Brian Thomas, but
• 32:24
  dude, tell me a game that Brian Thomas since he's come into
• 32:27
  league, ever played bad in. I mean seriously, you go to
• 32:31
  Jamar Chase, there are games that Jamar Chase doesn't show up
• 32:33
  in Hagans. Hey, you name him, you're
• 32:35
  preaching to the choir. He carried me to the fantasy
• 32:38
  finals last year. Brian Thomas was one of the best
• 32:40
  pick I made him and Bucky Irving.
• 32:41
  I'm just telling you, Brian Thomas is a guy that.
• 32:44
  In every single game, he's important to the offense and
• 32:48
  that's when you that's when you spot out and you know that this
• 32:51
  guy is going to be a star. Same thing with Justin Jefferson
• 32:53
  ever since he took over with Minnesota and Minnesota trade
• 32:57
  him for who? Speedy.
• 32:58
  Who did they trade him? Stephon, Dick, Stephon.
• 33:00
  Gigs who's right now playing for the New England Patriots, who by
• 33:04
  the way, had a no show on Sunday.
• 33:07
  All right, I'm just speaking the truth here.
• 33:09
  When Stefan Diggs went to Buffalo and he played well in
• 33:12
  Buffalo but never won anything when they made that move and
• 33:16
  they brought in Justin Jefferson, used that pick to get
• 33:18
  Justin Jefferson. You got one of the more elite
• 33:21
  style of players that not only can dance on a football field
• 33:25
  that can make every single catch and do things and make things so
• 33:28
  much easier for the quarterback. Ask her cousins.
• 33:31
  Ask the quarterbacks that they brought in after Kirk Cousins
• 33:34
  went down. There were quarterbacks you
• 33:35
  never even heard of that took over after Kirk Cousins.
• 33:38
  Tori's ace. And I'm sorry, is it his ACL?
• 33:41
  ACL, I believe and. Achilles when he when he tore
• 33:45
  his Achilles, they brought in quarterbacks that probably
• 33:48
  wouldn't have started on any other team.
• 33:50
  As a matter of fact, there was a quarterback eventually I got
• 33:52
  traded to Arizona or somewhere else because they were competing
• 33:56
  for to make the playoffs. So I just think that what you
• 34:00
  see right now with a JJ McCarthy is a young kid that's only going
• 34:05
  to get better. I'm not saying he's Daniel
• 34:07
  Jones. I'm saying that the way his
• 34:09
  ability to to move outside of the pocket and he's a lot faster
• 34:13
  than he looks. He's he's not a pretty boy.
• 34:16
  He's not a guy that can't do things on a football field that
• 34:19
  can make him a star. You saw what he can do in a
• 34:22
  fourth quarter and that's what you want to see.
• 34:24
  If a guy could show up in a fourth quarter, if he's playing
• 34:26
  bad the whole game and win a football game for you, that says
• 34:30
  something. As a championship quarterback
• 34:32
  and a quarterback back, that's one before in college.
• 34:35
  Yeah, and that's the thing that you don't really see during the
• 34:37
  draft process because you're not looking, you're not interacting
• 34:39
  with these guys like the like the GM's and the agents and
• 34:41
  stuff like that. Are is that kind of mentality
• 34:44
  and fish, what you were describing too is something that
• 34:46
  I was a little skeptical of too, with the intermediate throws
• 34:48
  with JJ McCarthy, stuff like that.
• 34:50
  I I agree with you. I was throwing on the run, I
• 34:51
  always thought was a strong suit for him in Michigan.
• 34:53
  I think they should utilize that kind of thing more.
• 34:55
  But some of those intermediate throws, just because he didn't
• 34:57
  have to do them at Michigan because they were just a ground
• 35:00
  and pound type offense. Maybe you're just seeing, OK, he
• 35:02
  can actually do do that kind of thing in this type of scheme
• 35:04
  with those types of wide receivers and make that kind of
• 35:06
  thing work for a guy that's also very smart too.
• 35:09
  I always said McCarthy was a smart quarterback.
• 35:10
  I he wasn't reckless like you saw some of these other
• 35:12
  quarterbacks try to be at Michigan in the past, too.
• 35:14
  He's a Jim Harbaugh quarterback. Andrew Luck.
• 35:17
  You know who that is? Another Jim Harbaugh
• 35:20
  quarterback. Director of Player Personnel I.
• 35:21
  Think over there in Stanford. Yes, he is.
• 35:23
  I actually saw a documentary on YouTube today about him.
• 35:26
  It's a sensational story, by the way.
• 35:28
  It's really good. Yeah, he's he.
• 35:30
  Looks like he's 50, by the way. One of the started.
• 35:34
  Captain Andrew Luck is the top five Twitter accounts.
• 35:36
  Andrew Luck has a master and a doctorate.
• 35:39
  That's how smart Andrew Luck is. He is intelligent, big, strong
• 35:43
  and and had a lot left to play NFL football.
• 35:46
  He just didn't want to have any of the brain trauma and he
• 35:48
  wanted to spend time with his family and enjoy the rest of his
• 35:51
  life. I I love Andrew Luck because
• 35:53
  Andrew Luck stood for something. When you look at guys and
• 35:56
  athletes that want to step away from the game because they want
• 35:59
  to look look forward to their future.
• 36:01
  He didn't look towards the game and say, I can't live without
• 36:04
  the game. The game went past him and he
• 36:06
  said, you know what? I did what I wanted to do in the
• 36:08
  eight or nine years I was there. Now I want to move on with my
• 36:11
  career and do more things for me and my family.
• 36:14
  And that's what I love about Andrew Luck.
• 36:15
  That's using your brain. JJ McCarthy, another Jim
• 36:19
  Harbaugh guy. Why everybody thinks JJ McCarthy
• 36:22
  could be successful in the NFL is because of this brain over
• 36:26
  Braun. And that, ladies and gentlemen,
• 36:28
  is what's going to make JJ McCarthy very unique, especially
• 36:31
  with O'Connell, who's a very good X is an O's type of guy.
• 36:35
  And you see the opposite kind of thing with Caleb Williams now I
• 36:38
  I give him the benefit of the dead out Caleb Williams still
• 36:40
  because I think I was saying that a lot of these newer
• 36:43
  offensive skill players all at once kind of being down hurt him
• 36:46
  I think too. And I think again, learning a
• 36:48
  very complicated offense like Ben Johnson that was very
• 36:50
  different than what he's played with in years past could be a
• 36:53
  little different. Lincoln Riley is very much the
• 36:55
  opposite of Ben Johnson if you look at the way they play
• 36:58
  offense. And Lincoln Riley, obviously
• 37:00
  both at Oklahoma and USC use a lot of those 3 receiver sets.
• 37:03
  And I think you you see that kind of thing different now in
• 37:06
  in the NFL. Lincoln knows how to develop
• 37:07
  quarterbacks. So of course, if if Caleb
• 37:10
  Williams settles down and stops, open it, stop opening his mouth
• 37:14
  and just plays the game and plays with his abilities and
• 37:17
  stop using the the way he reacts to things on and off the field
• 37:22
  from players and other people, media guys talking about him.
• 37:25
  Caleb Williams is going to be a star in this league.
• 37:27
  He's too talented not to be. But the problem with him is he
• 37:31
  lets the media get to him and he lets his coaches and players get
• 37:34
  to him. And that reminds me of Russell
• 37:36
  Wilson, a guy that has become a journeyman, won a Super Bowl
• 37:40
  champion, and all of a sudden who people, including I, I don't
• 37:44
  know if it's Fish, somebody told me or believes that he's a Hall
• 37:46
  of Famer. I don't.
• 37:47
  Yeah, it was fish a few weeks. Ago, I don't think he's a Hall
• 37:49
  of Famer, Russell Russell Wilson, I don't think.
• 37:52
  He said borderline. I said borderline.
• 37:54
  He's a guy if he could play for another three years and put up
• 37:58
  adequate numbers. It's not happening.
• 37:59
  You're going to have to have a conversation about him.
• 38:01
  You have to. He was great on Sunday by the
• 38:03
  way. 2 thumbs up for you Giant fans.
• 38:05
  Don't. Make me talk about this yet.
• 38:07
  We'll get there. Oh.
• 38:09
  Those are great 2 yard passes to Wandale Robinson.
• 38:11
  Wandale Robinson, our second round pick who's like 5 foot 5
• 38:15
  and like the shortest arms in the league.
• 38:19
  I remember that. I was like, why are you drafting
• 38:21
  a fifth round prospect? Like, by far.
• 38:23
  Like seriously, look, he was good at Kentucky.
• 38:28
  JJ McCarthy. He was good in Nebraska to
• 38:31
  relax. JJ JJ McCarthy, Huskers only
• 38:36
  rear listen to this dating back to high school, 67 and three in
• 38:43
  his career as a starting quarterback.
• 38:46
  All losses in high school. He didn't lose a game as the
• 38:49
  starting quarterback of Michigan.
• 38:51
  Think about that for a second. Regular season.
• 38:55
  Right, that is a winner. And I I say this a bunch and you
• 39:00
  know, like obviously different levels, it means different
• 39:03
  things are stacked differently in high school, especially in
• 39:05
  college. NFL is a whole different beast.
• 39:07
  But if he's going to play like this in the fourth quarter and
• 39:10
  have his team behind him and be a leader of men, which is what
• 39:13
  you see from Harbaugh guys, Andrew Luck, a leader of men.
• 39:17
  He's the AD of Stanford at prestigious institute.
• 39:20
  He's not even 40 yet. That guy is going places.
• 39:24
  I bet you end up hearing him running for office 1 day.
• 39:28
  That's the only 35. He's 35.
• 39:30
  He's my little brother's age, that is.
• 39:32
  No, we have enough athletes running for office.
• 39:35
  Mark to share is running for, I think of some political office
• 39:38
  right now, Senate or governor. I'm honestly though his demeanor
• 39:42
  and the type of person Texas he would be really, really good at.
• 39:45
  It I'm sure. I bet, I bet he'd be good at it.
• 39:47
  I, I just like, I just think that this guy's going like even
• 39:51
  greater places than he is now. And I think a lot of that comes
• 39:54
  from how you're raised. Obviously his family historic,
• 39:57
  you know, the Luck family in college, Oliver Luck, but
• 40:00
  horrible. Everyone that's around that guy
• 40:02
  wins. Has he ever?
• 40:04
  When was the last time he lost? He didn't have double digit
• 40:06
  wins. In professional football.
• 40:08
  His last year with the 49ers, it's also.
• 40:10
  One season when everything fell. It's the Harbaugh family.
• 40:13
  John Harbaugh has been very successful.
• 40:15
  Their father was very successful over there in Michigan.
• 40:18
  And now Jim. I think Jim is the best one out
• 40:21
  of all of them. I I think Jim is so smart.
• 40:24
  And as an NFL coach, I always said that Jim Harbaugh, if he
• 40:27
  stayed over there with San Francisco, he would have won a
• 40:29
  Super Bowl with San Francisco. He walked away from San
• 40:32
  Francisco because he wanted to win a national championship for
• 40:35
  his alma mater. That's the only reason why he he
• 40:37
  left San Francisco, because he believed in Kaepernick.
• 40:40
  And by the way, if, if he was still there, Kaepernick with all
• 40:45
  the stuff that was going on, he would have found a way to keep
• 40:47
  Colin Kaepernick on that team. I do believe that.
• 40:50
  I absolutely. Believe that was a Chip Kelly
• 40:52
  who couldn't handle that It's one year with the 49ers.
• 40:54
  I'm just, I'm just saying if if Jim Harbaugh was still there, he
• 40:59
  would have figured out how to keep Colin Kaepernick still on
• 41:02
  the San Francisco 49ers and maybe Colin Kaepernick still has
• 41:05
  a career right now in the NFL. I'm not just saying Jim really
• 41:09
  believes in Colin Kaepernick. He was another guy that kind of
• 41:13
  the style of type of quarterback that he looks for a mobile
• 41:16
  quarterback that throws on the run and can do the things that
• 41:19
  you expect a quarterback to do. See the field, may use the field
• 41:23
  and use the players around him. And that's what JJ McCarthy is
• 41:26
  Speaking of. Stories.
• 41:27
  This is a mammoth one. The Athletic Britt Giroli and
• 41:31
  Alex Andreyov today says that at least 8 Detroit Tiger employees,
• 41:38
  including four vice presidents, have been accused of misconduct
• 41:42
  towards women since 2023. Seven of the eight men were
• 41:47
  accused of mistreating women that work for the Ilitch Sports
• 41:53
  and Entertainment, which our which own the Tigers, Red Wings
• 41:57
  and other entertainment companies. 6 of the 8 men either
• 42:01
  stepped down or were fired, with two remaining in power within
• 42:06
  the organization. Countless reports of sexual
• 42:09
  advances against women, as well as some from age-related
• 42:13
  discrimination and racial discrimination are documented
• 42:17
  from some of 45 sources. According to the Athletic 1 male
• 42:22
  employee says that the dysfunction is in these guys
• 42:27
  culture which a with a bunch of guys thinking that they can do
• 42:33
  whatever they want and get away with it, making it a place where
• 42:37
  women shouldn't feel safe. Reports say that Sam Menzen, a
• 42:43
  3434 year old assistant general manager, stepped down from the
• 42:47
  team after sending unsolicited photos to multiple women who
• 42:53
  worked for the team bed. Fiddleman, who refers the ML to
• 42:59
  MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred as his uncle, was promoted to vice
• 43:03
  president after an investigation lasting less than a week.
• 43:08
  Fiddleman was accused of screaming at women, retaliation,
• 43:14
  harassment and basically bullying female employees,
• 43:18
  Senior Vice President of Communications Ron Colangelo
• 43:22
  said in a defense in defense of Fiddleman.
• 43:26
  The Athletic may have talked to the 10 or 12 people where where
• 43:32
  who were disgrunted that and that's unfortunate.
• 43:37
  Former broadcasters Cameron Maybin and Craig Monroe were
• 43:41
  also let go. Maybin women was fired for
• 43:43
  creepy comments towards women and Monroe being charged with
• 43:48
  sexual abuse of a minor. The article ended with a current
• 43:53
  employees comment. We have team meetings and they
• 43:57
  celebrate like everything is going great.
• 44:00
  Yeah, the team is playing well, but let's be real.
• 44:05
  Well let let's get let's get into this story because it's a
• 44:08
  story that is only going to have more legs to it.
• 44:11
  This is not over. And I'm sure the investigation
• 44:14
  is going to find a lot more deeper things in this story.
• 44:18
  The Detroit Tigers are an organization that's been up and
• 44:21
  down. How many GM's over the last
• 44:23
  couple of years have taken over this team in this organization?
• 44:26
  How much money has been brought or spent in this organization?
• 44:30
  We've seen so many great players come out from this organization,
• 44:34
  Justin Verlander being one of one of them, Miguel Cabrera.
• 44:37
  How about Jabba Chamberlain being another?
• 44:39
  There are a lot of great players that have been out in and out of
• 44:42
  this organization being another one as well.
• 44:45
  You look at organizations over the years and I'm, I'm not
• 44:47
  saying Detroit's a bad place, I'm not.
• 44:51
  But if you remember here in New York, there was a guy that
• 44:54
  worked for the New York Knicks, who played for the Detroit
• 44:58
  Pistons, that took over as president and GM of the New York
• 45:03
  Knicks, and that is Isaiah Thomas.
• 45:06
  Do we remember that story? I remember that story very, very
• 45:09
  much. And Isaiah Thomas had a problem
• 45:11
  with a bunch of women where there was sexual advancements
• 45:15
  with these women upstairs, which eventually caused him to lose
• 45:19
  his job. And we all know James Dolan
• 45:22
  loved Isaiah Thomas loved him, but he had to step in and fire
• 45:26
  him. Even though eventually Isaiah
• 45:30
  Thomas took over the Liberty and and, and I think took over and,
• 45:34
  and partially owned the Liberty after that.
• 45:37
  But nevertheless, when you look at stories like this and the
• 45:41
  discrimination of women, women right now are important not only
• 45:45
  in sports but in politics and the world.
• 45:49
  And maybe 20 years ago women were not looked at as an
• 45:53
  important figures to organizations.
• 45:55
  But now women are very important, especially the way
• 45:59
  the world is starting to drive and give women opportunities to
• 46:03
  move up in corporations, companies and sports teams.
• 46:08
  When women look good, the men, the despicable men from these
• 46:13
  organizations, they're not happy men, not happy married men.
• 46:18
  They're doing stupid things. They're going behind their wives
• 46:22
  backs to to disgrunt these women to solicit, solicit these women
• 46:29
  and hurt these women in some kind of way because they think
• 46:31
  they have more power because in America, the men always had the
• 46:37
  power. Now women are starting to get
• 46:38
  the opportunity to have some kind of power.
• 46:43
  And to me right now with Rob Manfred in the way Rob Manfred
• 46:47
  is running the major leagues and the MLB, it bothers me because
• 46:51
  not only is he changing rules, he's getting guys or people that
• 46:56
  claim are his nephew jobs, opportunities that they
• 47:02
  shouldn't get. This guy who probably has no
• 47:05
  background in sports, has no background in management or any
• 47:09
  of that magnitude. This guy gets a job, eventually
• 47:12
  a vice president job with one of the big Major League teams, one
• 47:16
  of the bigger organizations of professional baseball history.
• 47:19
  Detroit's been around for almost 100 years.
• 47:22
  Think about that. And this guy who I've never even
• 47:25
  heard of, by the way, I, I've never heard of Ben Fiddleman.
• 47:29
  All right, never fiddle on the roof.
• 47:31
  I've heard that. I've I've heard he likes to
• 47:34
  fiddle with himself. But when you hear the in in the
• 47:37
  investigation of women and and and harassment, this to me
• 47:41
  bothers me. We've we talked about the Mara
• 47:43
  family. Mara has been very well
• 47:46
  respected around the league for many, many years.
• 47:49
  His father and then him, John and and Tish and the Rooney
• 47:53
  family, always very well respected.
• 47:56
  And now all these things and all these stories coming out with,
• 48:00
  you know, African American coaches, the Rooney Rule, as we
• 48:03
  all know with African American coaches.
• 48:05
  And then Mara not controlling certain players on his team with
• 48:10
  sexual harassment or putting their hands on their wives and,
• 48:14
  and leaving it alone and brushing onto the rug.
• 48:16
  This is to me, when you look at this and you look at
• 48:19
  professional sports teams that are very well respected.
• 48:22
  And I'm not saying Detroit is a very well respected
• 48:25
  organization, but it's a known organization that has been
• 48:28
  around for a long, long time. It would bother me to know that
• 48:32
  you have executives, and I'm not talking about one or two or
• 48:37
  three. You're talking about 10-12
• 48:39
  executives on the panel of these organizations sexually abusing
• 48:45
  and harassing women. Why would I want to go work
• 48:49
  there if I was a woman? Why I got to walk over.
• 48:53
  I got to walk around the offices and worry about a man grabbing
• 48:56
  my ass, going and waiting for me to come out of the bathroom so I
• 49:01
  can make an advancement on them. To me, that would be scary if it
• 49:05
  was my wife, my girlfriend. If my girlfriend was working for
• 49:09
  Detroit, she went to school for NYU.
• 49:12
  She she went to school for journalism.
• 49:14
  If she was writing for Detroit and hanging out over there in
• 49:16
  Detroit and somebody was advancing on her, what do you
• 49:19
  think I would do to the man that was trying to advance her and
• 49:23
  make her feel uncomfortable where she doesn't want to go to
• 49:25
  work? What do you think I would do to
• 49:27
  that guy? I'd break his neck.
• 49:30
  To me, it's uncomfortable to think about why women were never
• 49:35
  allowed to work in sports. And now women have an
• 49:38
  opportunity as well as they should to be considered general
• 49:42
  managers. As we all know, Miami had one in
• 49:45
  over there in Miami. We are now starting to see that
• 49:49
  we're going to have women managers, women coaches in the
• 49:52
  NBA in the future. It's going to happen.
• 49:55
  And now you're looking at the WNBA with Caitlin Clark changing
• 49:59
  the sports world, one of the more popular players right now
• 50:03
  in professional sports. Women deserve an opportunity to
• 50:07
  be respected just like men. And when you have men like this,
• 50:10
  disgusted, disgusting and and despicable men like this, and
• 50:15
  including Cameron Mabin, OK. Now we reached out to Cameron
• 50:19
  Mabin years and years ago and we wanted him to come on the show
• 50:24
  and he started following us and it never happened.
• 50:28
  He started working for the New York Yankees as a broadcaster
• 50:31
  and then eventually moved to Detroit and started working for
• 50:34
  them. And when you hear a story like
• 50:35
  this, I don't know Craig Monroe in a hole in the wall, but I
• 50:38
  know Cameron Maybin. Cameron Maybin, if these stories
• 50:41
  are true, is a despicable man and doesn't deserve another job
• 50:46
  in professional sports. Again, this is a guy that looked
• 50:50
  at himself as some kind of specific superstar player.
• 50:53
  Cameron Maybin was a washed up baseball player that played
• 50:56
  what, 6-7 years in the majors, was a backup player the Yankees
• 51:01
  traded for him for one year he did nothing for the New York
• 51:04
  Yankees and he was a journeyman. And then finally teams give him
• 51:08
  opportunity to be a broadcaster and work with the executives and
• 51:13
  work with the organization and you hear the stories that he is
• 51:16
  looking and, and and making passes on women.
• 51:20
  Despicable. And why isn't Detroit?
• 51:23
  Why did this story finally come out?
• 51:25
  This has been going on for what, 2-3 years now?
• 51:29
  It's been going on all this time.
• 51:31
  And then finally the story comes out.
• 51:32
  Who's brushing it under the rug? Is it Rob Manfred, a man freed,
• 51:37
  as Jabba calls him, who's brushing the story under the
• 51:41
  rug? Detroit is one of the best teams
• 51:43
  right now in the American League, one of the best teams in
• 51:45
  baseball, and it's run by a bunch of despicable, disgusting
• 51:49
  human beings. Very good, very well said.
• 51:56
  As disgusting as it gets for you this level.
• 51:58
  And I knew there was some shadiness going on with the
• 52:00
  Ilitch family with the Red Wings in the past too.
• 52:03
  Like you're seeing that you saw that I think in 2018 and 2019
• 52:06
  too. I don't know if it was directly
• 52:08
  like a a sexism type thing, but there was stuff going on behind
• 52:12
  the scenes. That's why Eiserman eventually
• 52:13
  got hired in that front office as well.
• 52:16
  And now you're seeing it with the Tigers too, with their
• 52:17
  broadcasters, with guys that are younger too.
• 52:20
  Like this is behavior that we took shots of the Mets for, for
• 52:22
  all their GMs and Mickey Callaway doing all those gross
• 52:25
  things in the past. And now all of a sudden you're
• 52:27
  seeing it here with a 34 year old rising future GM, that
• 52:31
  you're seeing an assistant GM, like the article is saying, that
• 52:33
  looked like it was going to be one of the faces of baseball.
• 52:35
  And he's doing all this crap. And it's just, it's disgusting
• 52:38
  on so many levels. And there's a lot of really
• 52:40
  good, like female employees there, broadcasters, assistant
• 52:43
  GM, like you're saying, assistant executives in that
• 52:45
  front office too, both with the Tigers and with the Red Wings.
• 52:49
  And I think you see this kind of thing just being a case of just
• 52:53
  so outdated concepts with all these ownerships.
• 52:56
  And it's not like I don't think Ilitch is really that much of an
• 52:58
  older owner compared to some of the other owners of baseball.
• 53:01
  But the, the, the outdated concept is just still there with
• 53:03
  how these employees are being treated.
• 53:05
  And you're right, Like, why would anybody want to go over
• 53:08
  there and want to broadcast or work for that team and a lot of
• 53:13
  the younger broadcasters, Andy Dirk's a former player that
• 53:15
  broadcast with him. Jabba, I think you played with
• 53:17
  him a little bit. Jason Benetti was one of my
• 53:19
  favorite play by play broadcasters were saying that
• 53:21
  these are not the values that I ever would have imagined would
• 53:23
  have been in this organization. And like they were sickened by
• 53:27
  the whole thing that these older guys and even the one the men's
• 53:30
  and the one younger guy would be able to do that kind of thing.
• 53:32
  And Monroe and Maben Munroe was a former player.
• 53:34
  He's probably in his 40s now. And Maben, like Errol saying is
• 53:38
  I think 38 or so. Is it?
• 53:40
  And he really is. If these stories are true,
• 53:43
  Cameron Maybin should never get another job again.
• 53:45
  A professional. Small.
• 53:47
  Nobody involved in that should ever.
• 53:48
  Get it? And Monroe, if he's really doing
• 53:50
  and and this story is true, this guy should be thrown in jail and
• 53:53
  the key should be thrown away. If this is true.
• 53:57
  Is it, if this is true, that he was trying to hook up with a
• 54:00
  young young lady? Underage young lady?
• 54:04
  This guy should be thrown in jail and never be let out again.
• 54:06
  This is that's that's Wander Franco ask if he's doing that
• 54:09
  all that kind of thing. I.
• 54:10
  Think yeah, but he did it in the Dominican.
• 54:11
  Republic. No, I know that.
• 54:13
  I think he did it with multiple. United States.
• 54:15
  Yeah, it still is. That's the same level of just
• 54:18
  disturbing behavior that he. Was.
• 54:20
  I'm not saying it doesn't. I understand it's the same
• 54:22
  thing, but it's a different country.
• 54:24
  Understood. And you look at again, in cases
• 54:26
  of this possibly expand, this is you said 10 at that, right that
• 54:29
  we know of. And then this is the same
• 54:32
  company that also owns the Red Wings who says stuff isn't
• 54:34
  happening behind the scenes there that Ilitch and this
• 54:36
  ownership group had. I know, I think he passed away
• 54:38
  recently, but this new ownership group is covering up.
• 54:41
  And like you said, the league could be covering up too because
• 54:44
  both MLB and NHL, well, they're, I don't think they're as bad as
• 54:47
  the NFL when it comes to covering up domestic.
• 54:49
  Violence. Well, we know they like to cover
• 54:50
  up superstar players situations, as we all know.
• 54:54
  Yeah, there were two of them by the old O Tato.
• 54:57
  Yeah. And you.
• 54:58
  As Jabba says, there's no proof. And you saw the NHL.
• 55:02
  Recent proving. And then on the on the NHL side,
• 55:06
  you saw that cover up with those four players, including Carter
• 55:08
  Hart and a few others, that of when they were doing stuff them
• 55:12
  in the OHL and during World Juniors and stuff like that too.
• 55:14
  So they're going to brush that kind of thing under the rug much
• 55:17
  more than they should. And it's just a sickening
• 55:18
  situation. And I feel bad for really.
• 55:20
  We still haven't heard the true story about the Chicago
• 55:23
  Blackhawks, right? I mean, that story really was
• 55:26
  brushed under the rug by the NHL.
• 55:27
  And then Quinnville gets another job, gets another two jobs.
• 55:30
  Oh yeah? How does that make sense?
• 55:32
  How does that guy get another job in the NHL after being the
• 55:36
  head coach when this kid was getting raped, was getting raped
• 55:40
  by a trainer in their locker rooms and players knew about it
• 55:44
  too. And they were getting this and
• 55:46
  and the teams and all these players got opportunities after
• 55:49
  the fact when they left the Blackhawks.
• 55:51
  It's despicable. Why?
• 55:52
  And I'm telling you right now, I can't wait to to see a book come
• 55:56
  out about that and maybe a movie come out about that, a
• 55:59
  documentary, because that story I have we still don't know the
• 56:04
  behind what really happened in that in those locker rooms in
• 56:07
  happened with the Chicago Blackhawks.
• 56:09
  The Blackhawks. Have we heard that story in the
• 56:11
  last past year? The story has not even been
• 56:13
  brought up ever. No, I think only really just
• 56:16
  vaguely since Gwendell got. Nobody has brought up that
• 56:19
  story. How could you not bring up a
• 56:21
  story when a player, a young kid who could have been great, was
• 56:25
  getting sexually abused by a trainer in the locker room?
• 56:29
  I don't even know if he was a trainer.
• 56:31
  He was like something. Else he was a video coach.
• 56:33
  Video coach, I'm sorry. Yeah, I think there was.
• 56:35
  I think there was a trainer that was under investigation though
• 56:38
  for being involved in it somehow.
• 56:39
  And obviously Quinnville is the one that covered up like you.
• 56:42
  Saw they all covered it up at Penn State GM the the one of the
• 56:46
  player personnel, one of the managers of player personnel was
• 56:51
  obviously suspended in and fired.
• 56:52
  I I mean, everybody should have been fired from that
• 56:55
  organization and owners should have been.
• 56:57
  They should have been, they should have lost a ton of draft
• 56:59
  picks. They should have lost.
• 57:01
  That's how they still get a reward with top three picks for
• 57:03
  whatever reason. I.
• 57:04
  I don't get it. I'm sorry and I, I, I went off
• 57:06
  topic over here, but job, I'm sorry.
• 57:10
  Oh, no, I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's weird how long like
• 57:13
  some of this takes. Obviously there's the due
• 57:16
  diligence that you have to do because you can't you can't put
• 57:19
  it in in front of anything. But when it comes to women and
• 57:23
  kids, it's, it's a little different.
• 57:26
  I've seen it first hand where it's, it's affected people's
• 57:29
  careers when even if they were found innocent, but they were
• 57:31
  tied to, you know, something where you don't see it, you
• 57:35
  know, the other way around. And it's just, I mean, it sucks.
• 57:39
  There's, there's no, there's no space for that.
• 57:42
  I don't care in baseball, in in any workplace for anybody to
• 57:46
  feel uncomfortable, men, women, whatever.
• 57:48
  I there's just, there's no, there's no space for that.
• 57:51
  There's, I mean, and I hope, you know, I, I know there's
• 57:56
  obviously instances where they're, you know, trying to
• 57:58
  protect their career, but obviously the advances in, in
• 58:02
  whatever way, shape or form and they, they just kind of push to
• 58:05
  the side. But I just, I think it's first
• 58:09
  of all, it's disrespectful. First of all, it's, it's asinine
• 58:12
  to even think that's OK, especially in the workplace.
• 58:16
  And it's just, I understand that some people will see it
• 58:20
  differently than other people will.
• 58:21
  Like, you know, it's it's I always find this interesting and
• 58:25
  I'd like to get your guys's take on it too.
• 58:26
  Like understand that there's women reporters, Correct.
• 58:31
  But I get out of the shower after a game.
• 58:33
  That's my office. Like, I'm not trying to
• 58:37
  obviously do anything to make you feel uncomfortable.
• 58:40
  But if I'm drying off in my towel falls like I'm not doing
• 58:44
  it like, and it's just, I've always, always thought there's a
• 58:47
  very thin line because obviously you have to respect them because
• 58:50
  they're doing a job. But at the same time you're in
• 58:52
  my office and I've always, I've always thought it's like,
• 58:56
  obviously they're doing a job respecting and they're
• 58:59
  professional about it. I'm not saying they aren't, but
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  it's just some people can misconstrue like certain things,
• 59:04
  which it's just, it's tough. But you can't put yourself in
• 59:09
  that situation first and foremost.
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  And if it gets drug out forever and we, we've seen instances
• 59:15
  like this that are disgusting where they get drug out, drug
• 59:19
  out, drug out. And for these individuals that
• 59:21
  it happens to, that's just, it's more that they have to hold on
• 59:24
  to. And mind you, is going to solve
• 59:27
  the, the anguish and, and pain and whatever they have to deal
• 59:31
  with. No, it's not going to, it's not
• 59:32
  going to solve it. It's not going to magically make
• 59:35
  it disappear. But, you know, it's somebody
• 59:37
  standing up for what is right and figuring out like, really,
• 59:41
  what happened is it is it is this going to take two years
• 59:44
  where they got to fight their tails off for whatever happened
• 59:46
  for it to come out? Or does it get drawn out long
• 59:49
  enough to where it kind of like you said with the black, like
• 59:53
  you haven't heard about it. So it's like, you know, sight
• 59:56
  unseen, Right. And so if you haven't heard
• 59:58
  about it, it's like, oh, and then something comes up.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, exactly. And it's it's, it sucks because
• 1:00:05
  there's so much. Evil in this world, as we've
• 1:00:09
  seen that, by the way, that is that is great where you you hope
• 1:00:15
  that the good can prevail in all of this with everything that
• 1:00:20
  goes on and people would just wake up and be like, hey, we
• 1:00:24
  know what's right and wrong. Like have we all done stupid
• 1:00:28
  shit? Yes, we have.
• 1:00:29
  We've all been there for somebody to say they haven't.
• 1:00:31
  They're a bold faced liar, but there's certain there's certain
• 1:00:35
  stupidity to to what level it is.
• 1:00:39
  And it's just, you know, hopefully they figure it out
• 1:00:42
  because it for those families and for those individuals, it
• 1:00:45
  sucks, men and women. Yeah, Java, I, I see your
• 1:00:48
  scenario too. Like, well, obviously there's a
• 1:00:49
  level of journalistic integrity that has to be like giving the
• 1:00:52
  players the privacy and stuff like that, like you were saying.
• 1:00:54
  And I think that comes to a point of just like mass
• 1:00:57
  journalism of just wanting to get the story out first instead
• 1:01:00
  of actually doing it right. And then, yeah, everyone's
• 1:01:02
  rushing just to be the first one to break it.
• 1:01:03
  And that's kind of things that happen too.
• 1:01:05
  And I think just think of this instance as you're looking at
• 1:01:07
  more of with sexually and again, I don't know the ages of the
• 1:01:10
  people that were victimized. By that but speedy, this has
• 1:01:12
  been going on for years and now finally it's being it's breaking
• 1:01:17
  and people are starting to realize.
• 1:01:18
  But it's started started of like 2023, right?
• 1:01:21
  23 and now we're going into 2026.
• 1:01:23
  What do we have? Three more months and it's 2026.
• 1:01:26
  It goes best. Think about think about too.
• 1:01:28
  The fish brought up a great thing like how long did the
• 1:01:32
  gymnastics thing take? You know, like, well, and that's
• 1:01:35
  the crazy part because in I've always and played devil's
• 1:01:39
  advocate. And so if these do come out and
• 1:01:43
  they're whatever they are, if it comes, if it comes to find out
• 1:01:47
  that these aren't true, like accusations, why does nothing
• 1:01:51
  ever happened to that person? Like we've seen it one time
• 1:01:55
  happened and that was Duke lacrosse.
• 1:01:56
  But but Jabba, if you're looking at it, it's not just one woman.
• 1:02:00
  This is. Multiple.
• 1:02:01
  I'm not saying it is this is multiple but that's fine and
• 1:02:05
  I've seen it affect people's lives to where they were
• 1:02:08
  innocent but it was related to a woman and they never got an
• 1:02:12
  opportunity and they were proven innocent.
• 1:02:15
  But job again, so I'm sorry to cut you off if this happened 15
• 1:02:19
  years ago. These guys don't get in trouble.
• 1:02:23
  They don't get in trouble because women aren't respected
• 1:02:25
  as much as they're respected now in the industry.
• 1:02:28
  And I believe women should have been respected 1520 years ago.
• 1:02:32
  When they were, but it shouldn't, it shouldn't be an
• 1:02:33
  industry thing. And I understand you're thinking
• 1:02:35
  industry this, this should be like, it's not an industry
• 1:02:38
  thing. This is the, this is life like
• 1:02:41
  this is you don't treat women like that.
• 1:02:43
  That is just the way it is. It doesn't, it doesn't so happen
• 1:02:47
  that it's just now everybody can catch stuff on camera or now
• 1:02:50
  it's hearsay and it's it you don't, it's now you're guilty
• 1:02:55
  until proven innocent. And sometimes that doesn't even
• 1:02:57
  matter. And we built this country an
• 1:02:59
  innocent until proven guilty, but now we protect until we
• 1:03:04
  actually know really what's going on.
• 1:03:05
  I've seen it happen in high school.
• 1:03:07
  I've seen it happen in college. I've seen it happen
• 1:03:08
  professionally where before this comes out, like, why even create
• 1:03:13
  this story until you know all the details, whether that takes
• 1:03:16
  two or three years, it prevents us from having this conversation
• 1:03:21
  because now if they say, Yep, it's been an ongoing
• 1:03:24
  investigation for four years, we found out exactly this is the
• 1:03:27
  document. These are the emails.
• 1:03:28
  This is a text message now we have nothing to say or
• 1:03:31
  speculate. But this is the media.
• 1:03:32
  The media does this all the time.
• 1:03:34
  They're trying to. Pick a story.
• 1:03:35
  I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying they don't, but what I'm.
• 1:03:38
  Saying I got what you're saying, I understand they shouldn't be
• 1:03:40
  bringing. They're doing this.
• 1:03:41
  Until they investigate in deeper, I understand.
• 1:03:44
  And I hate it. I hate it for not only the the
• 1:03:47
  the victims or every, but everybody in the whole
• 1:03:50
  situation. That sucks, because whether it's
• 1:03:53
  true, whether it's not like this effects everybody, not only
• 1:03:56
  effects the people directly involved indirectly.
• 1:04:00
  Java, let me ask you a question. All right, so you're, I
• 1:04:02
  understand what you're saying and and they should.
• 1:04:05
  You're attacking a man's character without actually
• 1:04:07
  knowing what happened. But here's the thing.
• 1:04:09
  Why are they resigning? Why are they resigning if they
• 1:04:12
  thought they were innocent? Why are they getting fired if
• 1:04:16
  they thought they were innocent? If they if they're saying and
• 1:04:19
  they're standing up for the whole story behind it, then
• 1:04:22
  they'll say, you know, listen, I don't know anything about this.
• 1:04:25
  This is not true. This is untrue.
• 1:04:26
  Why are they resigning? I think, I think what was it,
• 1:04:29
  Fish? Five of them resigned.
• 1:04:32
  Six of them. Six of them resigned.
• 1:04:34
  So. Think about that.
• 1:04:36
  If you're resigning, you're guilty.
• 1:04:38
  That's the way I look at it. I wouldn't resign I'm not
• 1:04:41
  resigning if I feel that I'm not guilty, prove it prove that I'm
• 1:04:45
  not guilty. I prove that I'm guilty.
• 1:04:47
  That's what I'm going to say guilty and so proven.
• 1:04:50
  So I, I don't, you don't have anything because I know for a
• 1:04:54
  fact I didn't do anything. So to me that tells me they're
• 1:04:58
  guilty. I understand what you're saying.
• 1:05:00
  Fire me and then I'm going to sue your ass.
• 1:05:02
  I'm going to sue you for everything you own.
• 1:05:04
  Look at look at John Gruden. Look at Jon Gruden went through
• 1:05:08
  Jon Gruden knows he did what he did sexual, you know, Yeah, I
• 1:05:12
  mean, not sexually racism, the racism text messages and emails
• 1:05:16
  that he was posting. But it was told to him that that
• 1:05:18
  wouldn't come out. Why was his name only brought
• 1:05:21
  out when there were eighty other people on that emails, on those
• 1:05:24
  emails? But he brought was brought out.
• 1:05:26
  And that's why he won the case. Even though we believe he was
• 1:05:29
  guilty. That hurt him.
• 1:05:30
  He's never going to get a coaching job.
• 1:05:32
  Oh, maybe he will. But in the future we'll see if
• 1:05:34
  it gets brushed under the rug. But nevertheless, everybody else
• 1:05:37
  was racism, racist and and said what they felt about the whole
• 1:05:41
  situation. But he was the one that got
• 1:05:43
  burnt. He was the one that lost his
• 1:05:44
  job. He is the one that right now
• 1:05:46
  doesn't have a job with ESPN, CBS or any of those
• 1:05:49
  organizations or NFL organizations.
• 1:05:51
  So he got screwed. He's doing he's doing just fine.
• 1:05:54
  But I I know he just want a lot of money, but I I'm just.
• 1:05:57
  Saying that too, but he he's still getting paid handsomely by
• 1:06:00
  none of those people. No, I I got it and I understand,
• 1:06:03
  but wouldn't you want to be a coach in the NFL?
• 1:06:05
  You loved it and John Gronen always said that you want he's a
• 1:06:09
  lifer. He wants to die being a head
• 1:06:11
  coach in the NFL or college football.
• 1:06:13
  He got interviewed for a couple college football teams and they
• 1:06:16
  didn't hire him. He was probably the easy hire
• 1:06:19
  and he didn't get hired. Manfred is involved in this
• 1:06:22
  story because the guy that has not stepped down is is a guy who
• 1:06:29
  refers to Manfred as his uncle that got him this job when he
• 1:06:32
  was 21 years old with the Detroit Tigers.
• 1:06:35
  This fiddleman. Well, he's probably fiddle with
• 1:06:38
  his own steps. Hopefully it's just his own and
• 1:06:39
  someone, not someone else's. These aren't just females coming
• 1:06:42
  forward. It's terrible to all the people
• 1:06:44
  around him, Men reported. Like dozens of men were involved
• 1:06:49
  in the 45 people that came out against these people.
• 1:06:52
  And Fiddleman was the one that had the most people against
• 1:06:54
  them. And that's the one that's
• 1:06:56
  connected to Manfred. I think there's a little bit of
• 1:06:59
  smoke. Rob Manfred, he's going.
• 1:07:03
  He needs to speak. Hey, listen, Adam Silver today
• 1:07:06
  spoke about Kawhi Leonard. I, I, we're not going to talk
• 1:07:09
  about it today, but he came out finally to speak up about the
• 1:07:14
  whole Kawhi Leonard thing. Now I again, you want the
• 1:07:18
  commissioner to come out and speak for the organizations or
• 1:07:22
  the owners of those organizations because you want
• 1:07:25
  him to. He's he's working for those
• 1:07:27
  organizations. Rob Manford or Freed is working
• 1:07:31
  for the owner of the Detroit Tigers and he hired well, his
• 1:07:35
  so-called nephew is working for those Detroit Tigers.
• 1:07:39
  And like Aaron was saying Fish was saying he's, he's saying
• 1:07:43
  that when it when there's smoke, it's going to cook baby.
• 1:07:46
  And that's what's going on. Rob Manfred or Manfred is not
• 1:07:51
  speaking up. He's hiding and he's letting
• 1:07:54
  this guy keep his job. How is this guy keeping his job?
• 1:07:57
  And other people are resigning and stepping down or getting
• 1:08:00
  fired. And and the only reason why is
• 1:08:02
  is because quote UN quote, his uncle is Rob Manfred.
• 1:08:05
  So I, I agree with fish. I think they're there's got to
• 1:08:09
  be some kind of smoke behind this.
• 1:08:10
  And Rob Manford, how much time does he have left before he.
• 1:08:15
  Expires in 2028. So 2028.
• 1:08:17
  So we got to deal with Rob Manford for another three more
• 1:08:20
  years. We got to deal with this idiot
• 1:08:22
  for another three more years. I mean, that's scary to think
• 1:08:25
  about that. And I know a lot of people don't
• 1:08:27
  want to. And I, I don't know Rob Manfred
• 1:08:29
  in a hole in a wall. I don't know him personally.
• 1:08:31
  Maybe I'll like the guy. If I sat down and had a
• 1:08:33
  conversation with him, maybe me and him would get along where
• 1:08:35
  you could be pals. I don't know.
• 1:08:37
  But what I'm hearing about him as a person that I'm I'm reading
• 1:08:42
  these stories, it's not good for baseball.
• 1:08:44
  It's not good when your commissioner is high getting
• 1:08:48
  guys that are 21 years old hired for an organization that has
• 1:08:53
  been a failing organization. When was the last time Detroit
• 1:08:55
  won a won a World Series 8484, a job that was on those teams?
• 1:09:02
  Justin Verlander, Scherzer, Miguel Cabrero, Hall of Famers
• 1:09:06
  were on those teams. They've been to World Series and
• 1:09:09
  never get over the hump and they're hiring this guy
• 1:09:10
  Fiddleman, who's never been a manager, has never worked with a
• 1:09:14
  baseball, a professional team, because his uncle is Rob
• 1:09:16
  Manfred. Come on, guys.
• 1:09:20
  If you're if you're, if you put two and two together, you can
• 1:09:24
  honestly understand. If you're playing chess, you
• 1:09:26
  would know that somebody's the queen and somebody's the pawn,
• 1:09:31
  and the pawn is fiddleman and the queen, which is the most
• 1:09:35
  important, you know, piece on the board is Rob Manford think.
• 1:09:41
  About. That's why it's about who you
• 1:09:43
  know, not what you know. And it's also a case of special
• 1:09:46
  treatment that he's giving this guy for whatever reason, just
• 1:09:49
  because, oh, he hired him at 21 years old.
• 1:09:51
  No, this guy did gross things to women that should never have
• 1:09:54
  happened. Why is he all of a sudden
• 1:09:56
  keeping his job when six other guys resigned at 7?
• 1:09:59
  They took, they took accountability for it.
• 1:10:01
  Another guy got suspended and this guy gets to keep his job
• 1:10:04
  because he's just here to attach to Rod Manford, No.
• 1:10:07
  It would bother me. And again, if you're if you're a
• 1:10:10
  baseball fan and you're here and maybe you're a Detroit, Detroit
• 1:10:13
  Tiger fan and I love what Detroit's doing, they can win
• 1:10:16
  the World Series this year. Could you imagine this story
• 1:10:18
  coming out and Detroit goes all the way to the World Series and
• 1:10:21
  wins the World Series for the first time since 1984?
• 1:10:23
  How bad this will look for baseball if they come out and
• 1:10:27
  they win a World Series and this story even gets worse.
• 1:10:30
  I mean, think about it. That could be really bad for
• 1:10:33
  baseball, really bad for baseball.
• 1:10:35
  So it would be. How are they going to win with
• 1:10:39
  this story though? Like that's the thing that.
• 1:10:41
  They're going to the playoffs right now.
• 1:10:43
  They're. A playoff, right?
• 1:10:44
  They're obviously a playoff. How many?
• 1:10:45
  How many people think? How many people you think know
• 1:10:47
  about the story though? Really.
• 1:10:48
  Honestly. Well, I mean, now that the New
• 1:10:51
  York Times, The Athletic published it, I.
• 1:10:54
  I know Brittany a little bit, all right?
• 1:10:56
  She's been on this show. Giroli has been on this show
• 1:10:59
  before and when she came on the show she was working for the
• 1:11:01
  Nationals and I went back and forth, back and forth with her
• 1:11:05
  about Scherzer. She told me when the Mets
• 1:11:07
  brought him in, he said this guy is must see.
• 1:11:10
  He's still a great pitcher. He's going to bring wins to the
• 1:11:13
  New York Mets. The guy never gets hurt.
• 1:11:16
  This guy is a great Samaritan, great teammate.
• 1:11:19
  And what happens when he goes to the Mets?
• 1:11:21
  He gets overpaid, he gets hurt, can't stay on the field.
• 1:11:24
  The pine tar story. He he's fighting with umpires,
• 1:11:28
  he's fighting with teammates. It didn't work.
• 1:11:31
  I and we reach out to Brittany, Brittany Giroli to come on the
• 1:11:34
  show again. And what did she do?
• 1:11:36
  Nothing. Nothing.
• 1:11:38
  She hid. She didn't want to come on the
• 1:11:40
  show. You know why she didn't want to
• 1:11:42
  come on the show? Because she knew that if she
• 1:11:44
  came on this show, I'm dropping a damn hammer on her because I
• 1:11:48
  know what happened. She attacked me.
• 1:11:50
  She told me that I was stupid to even call Max, Max Scherzer an
• 1:11:55
  overrated player at the time. He was overrated.
• 1:11:58
  He wasn't the same pitcher. And she, he, he got paid what?
• 1:12:02
  Like 43 million. 43,000,000 the highest contract in baseball
• 1:12:05
  history for a pitcher who was washed up at 3738 years old.
• 1:12:09
  And I said he's a washed up player, Brittany.
• 1:12:11
  You can't tell me that this guy is going to go to New York and
• 1:12:14
  pitch well. Oh, you don't know the family.
• 1:12:16
  He's a family man. And he's going to go out there
• 1:12:18
  and he's going to show the Met fans what winning winning is.
• 1:12:21
  He won a World Series. He was a big part of those World
• 1:12:23
  Series teams. And what did he do?
• 1:12:25
  He had the pine tar. He was bitching and moaning.
• 1:12:28
  He wasn't getting along with players in the dugout.
• 1:12:31
  Then they brought in Justin Verlander and Verlander who
• 1:12:34
  Jabba, you know, you're very good friends with.
• 1:12:36
  There were stories coming out that him and Verlander weren't
• 1:12:38
  getting along. I mean, think about that.
• 1:12:41
  Think about the stories. But no, no.
• 1:12:44
  Jaroli, where are you? Britt, come on the show.
• 1:12:47
  Come on the show and tell me that I was wrong about Max
• 1:12:50
  Scherzer. Just say yeah, he.
• 1:12:53
  Got her twice. She's great.
• 1:12:54
  I got to know her when she was with Baltimore.
• 1:12:56
  Yeah, that's I'm not, was the basis she was working with the
• 1:12:59
  Orioles. And now Jabba.
• 1:13:00
  I'm not Jabba. I'm not saying I don't like her.
• 1:13:04
  I'm not saying. I could I could give two shits
• 1:13:06
  if. You like her.
• 1:13:07
  I know, I'm just saying I'm. Still going to sleep well at
• 1:13:09
  night. I'm just saying I'm not, I'm not
• 1:13:12
  saying I don't like her, But if you're going to come out and
• 1:13:14
  you're going to attack me on the show and tell me I'm an idiot
• 1:13:17
  and I don't know what I'm talking about, and then when I
• 1:13:20
  made my points right and then you don't, hey, you know what?
• 1:13:23
  You don't want to come on the show.
• 1:13:24
  You don't want to speak about it.
• 1:13:26
  You're ducking and weaving it to me.
• 1:13:28
  That just tells me you're running from the truth.
• 1:13:31
  You're running from what you are.
• 1:13:31
  You're a reporter. Speak about it, argue about it,
• 1:13:34
  or even come on the show and say, Errol, you were right.
• 1:13:36
  Thank you. You know, you were right about
• 1:13:38
  it. And that's all I'm saying.
• 1:13:39
  I. Think you're an idiot and I
• 1:13:40
  still come on the show? Oh.
• 1:13:42
  Thank. You on a On a side note, leave
• 1:13:43
  it to the Nets to get a consistently durable pitcher
• 1:13:46
  hurt twice in that same season. Well, you know, stupid is a
• 1:13:50
  stupid. I mean up.
• 1:13:50
  To that point he had been durable though.
• 1:13:52
  I know that. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:13:53
  Like leave it to come to the best to have two.
• 1:13:55
  He pitched well that year when he was healthy.
• 1:13:57
  I'm just saying I was right at the time I was.
• 1:14:00
  Wheels. Wheels fall off eventually for
• 1:14:02
  everybody you know. Does the wheels fall off?
• 1:14:04
  That's for sure. Anyways, Anyways, moving on,
• 1:14:07
  ladies and gentlemen, we call this the deuce of the day.
• 1:14:09
  The deuce of the day. You log.
• 1:14:12
  Not a log. I don't have a log.
• 1:14:14
  But you know. All right ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:14:23
  my deuce of the day goes to the one and only Angel Reese.
• 1:14:27
  As the story gets bigger, you guys are going to love this post
• 1:14:32
  moves Candace Parker and Aaliyah Boston Oh, you guys are going to
• 1:14:35
  love this. So Candace Parker and Aaliyah
• 1:14:39
  Boston 2X NBAWNBA players came out and attacked Angel Reese.
• 1:14:44
  You have to protect your team and your organization no matter
• 1:14:47
  how you feel, Parker said, adding There were so many bumpy
• 1:14:52
  rides with the sparks that I've had and I think the best advice
• 1:14:58
  I've ever received is keep things in house.
• 1:15:02
  You can yell, scream, cuss, do all of those things in between
• 1:15:08
  these walls, but you can't bring it out.
• 1:15:11
  The former two time WNBANVP and three time IT champion said to
• 1:15:18
  me, Angel Reese and and by the way, Angel Reese recently was
• 1:15:23
  she wasn't allowed to play in the first half of the game and
• 1:15:27
  then she decided after the first half she wasn't going to be
• 1:15:31
  playing the second-half of the game.
• 1:15:33
  She decided to not come out with the team and sit in the locker
• 1:15:37
  room and not come out with the team and play the rest of the
• 1:15:40
  game. And it just shows you the type
• 1:15:41
  of person she is. This is a woman that's getting
• 1:15:44
  has a huge Reebok deal with Shaquille O'Neal now and
• 1:15:47
  Iverson. They trusted enough to put
• 1:15:49
  everything on her shoulders and a girl that's very well
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  respected, was very well respected in the WNBA.
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  And then the stories come out even worse when she's throwing
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  her own teammates under the bus. And now you have WXWNBA players,
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  some of the most well respected ex WNBA players coming out in
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  Candace Park and Aliyah Boston and throwing you under the bus
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  and saying you don't come out, you don't throw teammates under
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  the bus. She keep it in house.
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  It only tells me one thing. When is she going to get traded?
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  Does any other team want Angel Reese after dealing with what
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  she said about Caitlin Clark as she's thrown Caitlin Clark under
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  the bus, She's thrown many different players including her
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  own teammates under the bus. What does this spell for the
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  WNBA? What does this spell for Angel
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  Reese in the future as a WNBA player and only spells nothing
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  but havoc for her. So my deuce of the day goes to
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  Angel Reese and her stupidity on throwing her own teammates under
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  the bus and not keeping it in house.
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  So that would be the deuce of the day and it's getting worse.
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  The stories are getting worse because she is becoming a
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  conceited egotistical maniac and she doesn't want to take
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  responsibility for all the things that she is doing on and
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