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The Karol Markowicz Show: Daniel Turner Exposes the Climate Agenda and AI Data Center Backlash · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to The Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 1: My guest today is Daniel Turner. Daniel is the founder
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  Speaker 1: of Power the Future and a regular on Fox News.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Daniel.
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  Speaker 3: So nice to have you on.
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  Speaker 2: Carol, great for having me. I'm so grateful. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real treat.
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  Speaker 1: I've been following you for a while and I know
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about Power of the Future, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing more. I want to start off,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, by asking what do you guys do and
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  Speaker 1: what does my audience need to know about your group?
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  Speaker 2: I started it nine years ago almost. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: why is because one of the things I have in
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  Speaker 2: common with you is that we're We both have our
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  Speaker 2: hearts and most of our life in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: I'm born and raised New Yorker. I'm ninth generation New Yorker.
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  Speaker 2: And I've been in the political space for most of
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  Speaker 2: my life. But I started it because I live now
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  Speaker 2: in rural Virginia and I was doing a lot of
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  Speaker 2: energy issues. And I realized there's this huge disconnect with
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  Speaker 2: people who produce our energy, energy workers in rural America.
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  Speaker 2: And people who make energy policy who are urbanites, like
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  Speaker 2: people in New York. And they decide energy, but they've
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  Speaker 2: never stepped foot in a coal mine or on an
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  Speaker 2: oil field. And so Power of the Future tries to
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  Speaker 2: bridge that gap a little bit between urban and rural America,
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  Speaker 2: which I think has a constant tension, right? Rural and
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  Speaker 2: urban fights are growing because we don't have much in
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  Speaker 2: common with each other's world.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny you say, you know, your heart's in New York.
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  Speaker 1: It's very easy to have your heart in New York
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  Speaker 1: when you live somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm here now visiting my mom who's still in Queens.
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  Speaker 2: And New York now makes me just sad. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I left New York when I was 18. My whole
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  Speaker 2: family is still in New York City. They are very
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  Speaker 2: proud New Yorkers. They don't want to give up. I
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  Speaker 2: admire the fight. I gave up before Giuliani even got
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  Speaker 2: into office. And I was like, I'm done with this place.
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  Speaker 1: Because you missed those years, the Giuliani and Bloomberg years
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  Speaker 1: were really amazing. I mean, everything was clean and safe.
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  Speaker 1: And it was it was a really wonderful time to
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  Speaker 1: be in New York. So people we left.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be five years in January. People ask me, like,
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  Speaker 3: why did you stay so long? Because it was great.
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  Speaker 1: It was really great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you wrote about it. And I remember because
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  Speaker 2: I wrote about leaving D.C., you know, 10 years ago
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  Speaker 2: and you wrote about leaving New York. And I remember
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  Speaker 2: that piece. And, you know, I was on Jimmy Fallon's
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  Speaker 2: radio show. I go on there quite a bit. I
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  Speaker 2: know you know Jimmy as well. And we were talking
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  Speaker 2: about how there was that kind of resurgence of the
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  Speaker 2: TV show Friends during COVID. And it was by 18
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  Speaker 2: and 19-year-olds who never experienced the Indies New York, right?
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  Speaker 2: The Yankees were winning. The city was safe. Even my
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  Speaker 2: brothers and sisters said, like, you know, you could take
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  Speaker 2: the A train at 2.30 in the morning and you
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  Speaker 2: weren't afraid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I did it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a really great time to be there.
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  Speaker 1: So back to Power the Future.
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  Speaker 3: What is the.
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  Speaker 1: Biggest misunderstanding about climate activism that you'd like to see dispelled?
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  Speaker 2: That it has nothing to do with the environment. The
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  Speaker 2: climate movement, you know, climate change is very easy to
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  Speaker 2: scare people about. And they've been doing that for decades. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But the real heart of the climate movement, the people
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  Speaker 2: who fund it, the people who have a goal. They
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow will take off their Stop Climate Change t-shirts and
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  Speaker 2: put on the From the River to the Sea t-shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Free Palestine and Black Lives Matter and Believe All Women.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same movement. It just has different faces because
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  Speaker 2: what they prescribe is always the same. It limits free speech.
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  Speaker 2: It limits personal freedoms. It increases taxes. It grows government.
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  Speaker 2: The climate's just the 40, 50 years of a growing movement.
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  Speaker 2: leftist movement that wants power over a free people. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why I got involved in this fight is, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I hate the communist left with every fiber of my being,
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  Speaker 2: but I hate what they're doing to rural America because
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  Speaker 2: they bear the brunt of it, right? When you shut
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  Speaker 2: down a coal mine or a coal plant or a
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  Speaker 2: stop a fracking project, it's rural America that suffers.
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  Speaker 3: How does Power the Future fight that?
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  Speaker 2: It's mobilizing folks. You know, we're not electoral. I don't
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  Speaker 2: tell people who to vote for, but I do make
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  Speaker 2: sure they get out and vote and stay active. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, rural America is easy to disparage, right? Remember
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  Speaker 2: not long ago, Bill Maher, who I've been fascinated to
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  Speaker 2: watch his transition over the last 10 years. But Bill Maher,
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  Speaker 2: like 10 years ago, famously made fun of flyover country
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  Speaker 2: and said, like, we have Chef Wolfgang Puck and you
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  Speaker 2: have Chef Boyardee and you hate us because you want
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  Speaker 2: to be us. And I thought, no, Bill, it's the opposite. Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Rural America doesn't all want to go to New York.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are really happy to live in Appalachia
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  Speaker 2: mining coal. They just want to be left the hell alone.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hear any jealousy whatsoever from rural America wanting.
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  Speaker 3: To live in the cities. Absolutely not. Do you get
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  Speaker 3: involved in any of the like AI data center fights
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  Speaker 3: or is that not part of your purview?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And data centers are the new scare tactic, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's the same thing. hyperbole, the same hysteria. And I
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  Speaker 2: tell folks, especially living in rural America, and I live
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  Speaker 2: a couple hours from D.C. and Virginia, so I tell folks,
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  Speaker 2: I know this argument well. I pass a third of
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  Speaker 2: the world's nation's data centers when I drive to D.C.
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  Speaker 2: I have neighbors who have been approached about selling their
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  Speaker 2: farms for data centers. I get it. I'm not telling
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  Speaker 2: you you have to build one in your neighborhood. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not telling you you have to sell your land. But
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  Speaker 2: I am going to say... The people who show up
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  Speaker 2: with the matching T-shirts and the matching hats and the
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  Speaker 2: clipboards who have three New York Times reporters in tow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Three years ago, they were telling you you had to
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  Speaker 2: give up your gas stove.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And three years ago under the Biden, we have to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of gas cars and you have to build
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  Speaker 2: a solar farm. So just be careful who you're getting
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  Speaker 2: in bed with.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The data centers are the new scary, scary thing. But
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  Speaker 2: the scary, scary thing was also just the combustion engine
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  Speaker 2: not long ago. So be cautious who these people really are.
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  Speaker 1: Is it hard when talking to kind of normal people,
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  Speaker 1: like people who aren't on Twitter all day or even
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  Speaker 1: on any social media all day, to tell them that
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  Speaker 1: these are scare tactics and to say that this isn't
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  Speaker 1: what you think it is?
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  Speaker 3: Does that penetrate?
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  Speaker 2: The data center issue is a hard one because believing
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  Speaker 2: that they are the same group of people It was
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  Speaker 2: tough to go into rural America and tell people you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to give up your Ford F-150, right?
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  Speaker 2: Or you give up your guns, for example, right? Rural
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  Speaker 2: America doesn't like to be told what to drive and
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  Speaker 2: what to purchase and how to live. Right. But when
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  Speaker 2: you tell them these rich billionaires are coming to buy
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  Speaker 2: up your farmland so that China can monitor your kids' activity,
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  Speaker 2: it resonates, right? There's a natural... distrust of big tech.
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  Speaker 2: And big tech has a lot of mileage to gain
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  Speaker 2: on winning people's trust again, right? Not long ago, big
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  Speaker 2: tech was telling people, you can't say that on social media.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to deplatform you if you say that. So
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  Speaker 2: this is a winning issue for the left, which breaks
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  Speaker 2: my heart because... I don't want to see the left win,
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  Speaker 2: but they're good, right? The left is really good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So why do they do this? Why do they, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're on the internet all the time. They need the
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  Speaker 1: data centers just as much as anybody. Why push against it?
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  Speaker 1: And I guess it goes back to also why push
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  Speaker 1: against a lot of energy sources?
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  Speaker 3: Like if it.
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  Speaker 1: Really doesn't have anything to do with the environment, and
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  Speaker 1: I believe you that it doesn't, I agree. Why do
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  Speaker 1: they take these stances? What's in it for them?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the easiest way to control people. And
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  Speaker 2: I think if you are of this militant left, control
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  Speaker 2: is ultimately the game, whether it's controlling their speech, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's controlling their ability to protest or like oppose, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the free Palestine movement or to speak out honestly, like
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  Speaker 2: someone like Heather McDonald does on crime demographics. You can't
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  Speaker 2: say that, right? Control is a very powerful thing. And
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  Speaker 2: when you can control people's energy, it is the ultimate
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  Speaker 2: form of control because you decide their movement. You decide
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  Speaker 2: their ability to buy goods and services, right? COVID was
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  Speaker 2: a small example of that. How exciting was it for
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  Speaker 2: leftist politicians to say, you can't leave your house this week, right?
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  Speaker 2: And so the climate movement is that, but over 40,
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  Speaker 2: 50 years. Remember even, you know, 2019, which I think
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  Speaker 2: was the last normal year in America, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: Almost want to write a book about it. The last
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  Speaker 2: normal year in America. This is when everyone was running
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  Speaker 2: for Democrat president pre-COVID. They had nothing to run on.
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  Speaker 2: CNN did a whole day, a day of climate change
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  Speaker 2: panels and all like 19 candidates had a half hour
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  Speaker 2: to talk about climate change. And that was when Kamala
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  Speaker 2: Harris was asked bluntly. She was then senator at the time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what do you think about banning cheeseburgers for
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  Speaker 2: the climate? And she laughed and was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we need to have that conversation. right? It's the ultimate
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  Speaker 2: form of control, what people eat, how people go to work.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why they like this machine. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And now you barely hear about it at all. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think that the climate even makes it into the
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  Speaker 1: next presidential debate? I'm not so sure.
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  Speaker 2: No, but data centers will and affordability will. And we
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  Speaker 2: have a huge affordability issue going on. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 2: about it. And energy has a big part of that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not American energy this time. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: lack of supply. It's global issues. And, you know, I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell folks all the time what President Trump is doing
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  Speaker 2: in Iran is absolutely impacting oil prices. But what we're also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, supporting Zelensky to attack Russia is also having
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  Speaker 2: a huge impact on energy prices. So it's both ways.
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  Speaker 2: We're all kind of our foreign policy is impacting our affordability,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard to say don't do those things.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that the average American worries a lot about
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  Speaker 3: gas prices.
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  Speaker 1: I worry a lot about gas prices. But the gas
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  Speaker 1: prices are not I mean, they're not like traditional highs.
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  Speaker 1: And the idea of vote Democrats to bring down your
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  Speaker 1: gas prices has never made any sense.
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  Speaker 3: Like, how does that?
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  Speaker 1: The most expensive states in the country are run by
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  Speaker 1: Democrats with gas prices at the highest levels. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure how any of that fits. What are they
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  Speaker 1: trying to argue here?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And when you see state level policies like California,
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  Speaker 2: like the whole Pacific Northwest, sadly, like New York, right?
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  Speaker 2: The reason why it's more expensive there is just because
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  Speaker 2: of state and local taxes and bad climate policies, which
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  Speaker 2: have the ultimate impact on affordability. But we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to see energy prices drop anytime soon until these issues
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  Speaker 2: are resolved. What we need is long-term energy policy. But
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  Speaker 2: long-term energy policy, I can't talk about it because I
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  Speaker 2: don't want your listeners to tune out, right? It's boring.
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  Speaker 2: But energy policy should be boring. I think all the
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  Speaker 2: time of going back to our beloved New York, at
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  Speaker 2: the turn of the 20th century, so 1890s or something,
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of people planned a water system, an infrastructure system,
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  Speaker 2: for a city of 10 million people. And the population
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  Speaker 2: of New York was like 800,000. And I'm sure some
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  Speaker 2: were like, what the hell are we doing? Why are
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  Speaker 2: we building all these reservoirs in Westchester? Why are we
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  Speaker 2: building these enormous pipelines? Why are we building this huge
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  Speaker 2: sewer system? Because someone said, one day New York is
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  Speaker 2: going to be eight, nine million people They planned that
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  Speaker 2: far ahead. That's the kind of energy policy we need.
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't get you elected. What gets you elected
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  Speaker 2: is saying, you know, when I'm president, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: stop that pipeline. When I'm president, I'm going to no
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  Speaker 2: more trade with Israel. When I'm president, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: free abortions for everyone. Right. No one plans like big
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure projects 50 years out because it's boring. And sadly,
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  Speaker 2: we're suffering the consequences of that.
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  Speaker 3: Such an interesting point that we don't plan ahead like that.
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  Speaker 3: Is it because they're afraid.
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  Speaker 1: To be wrong or is it, I don't know, is
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  Speaker 1: it just a failure of imagination?
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  Speaker 2: I think the latter and I think the failure of
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  Speaker 2: understanding your role as a politician, right? Eisenhower, we love
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  Speaker 2: him now for the highway system. But there had to
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  Speaker 2: be people at the time that were saying, why are
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  Speaker 2: we spending all this money on a road that no
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  Speaker 2: one's driving on, right? The population of America was smaller.
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  Speaker 2: Who was driving from Chicago to Los Angeles? Why are
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  Speaker 2: we spending all this money? Damn it, these Republicans spending.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of need that again. Not that I'm advocating
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  Speaker 2: huge government spending, but I am advocating huge government planning, right?
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  Speaker 2: And we don't do that anymore. We just, we manage
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  Speaker 2: the immediacy And it's one of the pernicious things that
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  Speaker 2: Biden did, quite frankly, with Keystone, is that now who's
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  Speaker 2: ever going to propose anything that's larger than a presidential cycle? Right.
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  Speaker 2: If President Trump. Right.
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  Speaker 3: That's also a risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Are we going to reopen Keystone? No, because as soon
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  Speaker 2: as you do, Gavin Newsom is going to run on.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm president, I'm going to shut down that pipeline. Well, hell,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to build a pipeline? Who's going to do
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  Speaker 2: anything that's more than four years in the future? It's
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  Speaker 2: too risky now.
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  Speaker 3: It's a real problem. How do you fix that?
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, I wish I knew the answer to that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even think it's codifiable in law. Can you pass
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  Speaker 2: a law in Congress that says you have to let
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  Speaker 2: me build this pipeline? It's a mentality change. It's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a electing the right people problem. But but that's
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  Speaker 2: that has scared off so much long term investment. Do
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  Speaker 2: you remember back in the day when it was still MSNBC?
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  Speaker 2: This is probably the beginning of the Obama years. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously you're in this world. So you were watching TV
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  Speaker 2: and watching the news. Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow, and
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  Speaker 2: they would do these commercials like outside of Hoover Dam
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  Speaker 2: and say, we used to build great things in America
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  Speaker 2: and we need a president who will build. Who the
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  Speaker 2: hell is going to build a Hoover Dam again? Right.
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  Speaker 2: Especially on the left.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to do something that big and that visionary
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  Speaker 2: and that, quote unquote, disruptive? It's a huge, huge problem.
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  Speaker 2: And not just on energy, but on all these major
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure problems. It's a huge problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, on the left, it's also, I mean, California is
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  Speaker 1: trying to build a speed rail and they're massively over
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  Speaker 1: budget and nobody knows where the money went and everybody
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  Speaker 1: gets paid. And it's a boondoggle, really. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: ends up happening to all these big projects. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what the issue is, why you can't let the
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  Speaker 1: left build stuff because they're very bad at it and
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  Speaker 1: the money disappears.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the money always seems to disappear and no one
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  Speaker 2: knows where it is. I mentioned, again, being here in
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  Speaker 2: Queens and we are just coming out of a nor'easter
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone said it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be but it was still a lot
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  Speaker 2: of rain and a lot of backed up sewers and
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  Speaker 2: people are once again saying after super storm standee and
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  Speaker 2: my family my parents lost their house uh my brother
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  Speaker 2: lost his house like we had a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Family lost their house yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah my uncle's house burnt down my uncle who was
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  Speaker 2: the congressman he was the front page of the new
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  Speaker 2: york times when his house burned down the.
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  Speaker 3: Next day um Your uncle's Bob Turner?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, uncle's Bob Turner. Yeah, it's my dad's brother. I
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  Speaker 2: just saw him recently.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, he had a really short stint in Congress.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever happened to that guy?
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a second. That's some
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  Speaker 2: fun family drama. But after Sandy, they appropriated all this
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  Speaker 2: money for New York to be climate resilient. Nothing was fixed.
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  Speaker 2: No sewers were fixed. I'm sure we did a lot
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  Speaker 2: of diversity training and I'm sure we But nothing was
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  Speaker 2: nothing was built in terms of infrastructure mitigation. The money
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: was just gone, you know, but going back to Uncle Bob,
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  Speaker 2: every time the gerrymandering conversation comes up.
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  Speaker 3: And he got gerrymandered right out.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: It was 2010 and he won and they were like, well,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: this isn't happening again. So they had to eliminate one
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: district from New York City. So they got rid of
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the Republican one.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm, you know, I'm from the former Soviet Union
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm from the Russian community in Brooklyn and they
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: loved Bob Turner. I just literally like two days ago
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: looked up like, hey, what happened to Bob Turner?
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, he's still alive. He's still with us.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: He's 85.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: He's doing great.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Wish him well.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I wish he was still in Congress.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. He loved it. And we would do
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: these events with the Russian community in Brighton Beach.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, David's on radio.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yup. And it all rushed. I had no idea. And again, like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: This is two miles from my parents' house. I had
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: no idea there was such a big Russian community. But
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: that's kind of old New York.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And they're very conservative.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Very conservative. Yeah. Both Orthodox and Jew, Orthodox Christian and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Orthodox Jewish. Very religious, very conservative, want to be left
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: to hell alone. Which is why the Zoram Mamdami ethnic
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: map that came out a couple months ago made me
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: lose my mind. Because I'm like, how do you ignore
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: not just the Russian community, but the Irish community, the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Italian communities in Brooklyn? Like, who, you know who made
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: that map? Someone who has no idea what the hell
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: New York City is.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Has never been there. Yeah, that's right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: So, Daniel, a question I ask all of my guests
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: this season of the Carol Markowitz Show is, What have
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you changed your opinion on?
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Is there something you've moved on?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. And I don't want to be negative
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: in my answer, but it is very truthful and I
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: hope it's not too dour. But I have moved on
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and maybe as I've gotten older that there is a
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: very real evil out there. I used to think people
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: just had good intentions and bad ways of achieving it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I used to think, and I'm not going to mention
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: any names, of course, or even political parties.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I can just imagine who you mean.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I used to think for the longest time working
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: on the Hill and doing campaigns. And I've been in
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the political space most of my life, all of my life, really.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I used to think that they were good intention. They
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: loved this country. They just had, it took me a
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: while to just be that black and white and say,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: there is evil. And it's biblical. Of course, there's evil.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: God has told us that there's evil out there and
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: we have to fight it. evil is real and, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: there are bad people with bad intentions and they hide it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: They mask it. They smile. Even as there's like.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: That's really something to change your mind on. How do
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: you stay optimistic in the face of that?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause you believe you're right. And you surround yourself
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: with good people. But, but no more, like none of
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: this common ground. I can't find common ground with people
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: who are chanting like, you know, death to billionaires or
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: from the river to the sea or like there's no
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: common ground with you. Like your ideas are evil and
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: mine are righteous and we're not going to be friends.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And we have to win.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Give me something that you've experienced recently that you would
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: call the best. The best restaurant, best book, best place
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: you've traveled, best.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Idea, anything.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Best piece of advice, which may he rest in peace,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: was the great Charles Krauthammer. And a friend of mine
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: told this to me recently as we were watching some
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: political turmoil. And it was Charles Krauthammer who used to say,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: be nice to people on your way up because you're
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: going to bump into them on your way down.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That has resonated recently. And you know, we always see
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: scandal and see people crescendo and peak and fall. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that has stuck with me in the last couple of
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: months in particular, as you see people climb and fall
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and ignore you in either direction, right? Especially as they climb. Yeah.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and just remember who, who was around you because you're
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: going to, you're going to see them again one day
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and you want to be nice to them. That's the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: best advice I think in politics, especially.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: When I speak to young people in our field, in
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: our world, I always say help everybody, help everybody. Anybody
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: who asks you help them if you can. I mean,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: as much as you can, obviously you can't help every
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: single person, but if you can do it, because it's,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: It doesn't cost you anything. It actually doesn't take anything
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: away from you. I, you know, if anybody writes to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: me and is like, Hey, can I have your editor's info?
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to all my editors listening, but I'm giving
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: out your info. Everybody gets it. Everybody gets, I'm.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Not, you know, gatekeeping anything and help everyone is a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: really good philosophy, especially in our world.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Especially in this world, because we are to a certain
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: extent in, you know, quote unquote competition. Like if I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: not on Fox talking energy, someone else is. And so
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh darn, how come I wasn't given that slot?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But the worst thing I could do is try to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: pretend that guy is like my enemy. Like, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: competition makes me better than right. What did he say
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that they were like, oh, his pitch was better than
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: your pitch or, you know, like, well, it makes you
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: better at your job, but yeah, it's great advice you
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: give to young people. Like your competitors are not your enemies.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I know who my enemy is. That was your first question.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I know who my enemy is. My other people in
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: this space, be nice to them because they can just
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: all make us better at our jobs.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Daniel, you've been so interesting. I've loved this conversation.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Leave us here with your top tip for my listeners
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: on how they can improve their lives.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I hinted at it in the first question you asked me, um, um,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: how do I say optimistic? Surround yourself with good people.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Your heart, the human heart has to have good borders
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: like a country and you've got to protect them. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: one of the bad things, I think, in the pervasiveness
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: of social media and just bombarded with stimuli is we
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: can let bad things into our heart. And your heart
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: can't continue healthy and strong if they're like little, tiny, lousy.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: We all sneak a beer or a smoke or a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: piece of chocolate. But if you do that to the
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: heart with evil, it's not good for you. So the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: most important thing to do is protect your heart. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that means surround yourself with good people, beautiful things, beautiful object,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: beautiful art, beautiful shows, beautiful music. Like don't allow evil
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and ugly into your, I try not to as much
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: as possible because there's a lot of it. Now you
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: have to confront it head on. So in your personal space,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Beauty is, which is why it's under attack, but surround
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: yourself with beautiful people and beautiful things and beautiful hearts
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: because it keeps you in a good frame of mind.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: He is Daniel Turner. Check out Power of the Future.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Look for him on Fox News. Thank you so much
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: for coming on, Daniel.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: You're best, Carol. Thank you so much for having me on.