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How Gut Health and Diet Will Transform Your Skin w/ Celebrity Nutritionist Maria Marlowe · The Body Pod

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, This is Haley and I'm Lara, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the Body Pod.
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  Speaker 2: Maria.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here with us. I'm
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  Speaker 3: excited to discuss acne with you because I feel like
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  Speaker 3: it is a everyone problem, And so for anyone who
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  Speaker 3: doesn't know you, why don't you give them a brief
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  Speaker 3: description about you how you got into this.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, So, first of all, thank you for having me
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  Speaker 4: on the show. In terms of a little bit about
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  Speaker 4: my background, so I am a nutritionist that specializes in
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  Speaker 4: acne and helping people to clear their acne naturally through
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  Speaker 4: diet and lifestyle changes, which is kind of a new,
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  Speaker 4: very holistic way of looking at acne because typically when
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  Speaker 4: you think acne, you think topical skincare. You don't think
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  Speaker 4: what are you eating? But how did I get here?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 4: I had for about five years despite trying all the
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  Speaker 4: topical things and even some prescription medications as well internal
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  Speaker 4: and nothing worked for me. And in fact, some of
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  Speaker 4: the things that I was taking made it worse or
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  Speaker 4: it caused other issues as well, like gut issues for example.
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  Speaker 4: And so I had gut issues before, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: certain medications just exacerbated that. So I discovered this concept
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  Speaker 4: of food as medicine sort of by a fluke.
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  Speaker 5: And when I learned.
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  Speaker 4: About the connection between the gutt and the skin and
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  Speaker 4: diet and skin, I well, first I was like, there's
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  Speaker 4: no way this is like, there's no way that this
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  Speaker 4: works this way, But let me try it, let me experiment,
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  Speaker 4: let me see. Within three months of changing my diet
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  Speaker 4: and focusing on cleaning up my gut and supporting my
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  Speaker 4: gut health, my skin cleared up after nearly five years
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  Speaker 4: of struggling with acne. And I was just so blown
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  Speaker 4: away by my own transformation that I sided to completely
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  Speaker 4: change career paths and go and study nutrition and cooking
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  Speaker 4: and learn everything I could about the skin and gut
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  Speaker 4: connection and the skin food connection and teach other people
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  Speaker 4: how to clear their skin naturally through their diet.
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  Speaker 5: That's so really powerful.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you've experienced it personally and then went
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  Speaker 3: on this whole journey to help everyone do it. And
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  Speaker 3: you created a product also, correct.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, that's true. I have.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I have a company called Kuma, and we have
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  Speaker 4: a product called Glowbiome, which is a probiotic that was
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  Speaker 4: specifically formulated to support skin clarity by targeting that gut
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  Speaker 4: skin connection. So as we can discuss there are some
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  Speaker 4: interesting science on the gut health of acne patients, and
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  Speaker 4: what researchers have found is that typically acne patients tend
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  Speaker 4: to lack some of the good Lactobacillus and bifitobacteria strains
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  Speaker 4: and gut they tend to lack gut microbiome diversity. They
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  Speaker 4: may be more likely to have increased intestinal permeability or
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  Speaker 4: leaky gut.
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  Speaker 5: And when you.
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  Speaker 4: Address those issues gut first, that actually has a positive
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  Speaker 4: impact on the skin and helping to clear the skin
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  Speaker 4: from the inside out. So I formulated glow biome based
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  Speaker 4: on the science of the gut skin connection and using
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  Speaker 4: probiotics that were clinically validated to support skin health from
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  Speaker 4: the inside out.
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  Speaker 5: That's impressive.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, Okay, well, first of all, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's fair that as aging women, which we all are,
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  Speaker 1: that we get like wrinkles, but we're still getting acne.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so not fair. Gick one is it
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  Speaker 1: wrinkles or is it acne? But you know, like I
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  Speaker 1: mean me personally, I struggle. I struggle with that. But
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  Speaker 1: I also have children that one son that had to
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  Speaker 1: do two rounds of acutane. And it's really hard to
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  Speaker 1: tell a teenage boy how to work on their gut
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  Speaker 1: health and eat healthier when their friends are all at
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  Speaker 1: Taco bell twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm curious about that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, are there differences in like women versus maybe
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  Speaker 1: what's happening in our adolescent years. Are there any changes
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  Speaker 1: or is the prescription kind of the same.
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  Speaker 4: So the interesting thing about acne that is really important
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  Speaker 4: for people to know is that acne is an inflammatory
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  Speaker 4: skin disorder. So if you look up the definitions, considered
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  Speaker 4: a chronic inflammatory skin disorder.
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  Speaker 5: So what does that mean? Inflammation is at the roots,
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  Speaker 5: and there are.
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  Speaker 4: Many factors in our modern diet and lifestyle that contribute
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  Speaker 4: to inflammation in the body. Right, diet is certainly a
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  Speaker 4: huge one. There's also stress, and so within the diet
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  Speaker 4: there can be many difffferent factors. So, for example, nutrient
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  Speaker 4: deficiencies is something that is common amongst acne patients, but
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  Speaker 4: not everyone's going to have the same nutrient deficiencies, right,
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  Speaker 4: Or you could have acne and not necessarily have a
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  Speaker 4: nutrient deficiency.
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  Speaker 5: You might have something else going on, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Your gut, you have gut dyspiosis, so your gut microbiome
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  Speaker 4: is imbalanced and that needs attention. So there are many
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  Speaker 4: different factors. It's a matter of figuring out what is
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  Speaker 4: your source of inflammation. Definitely, for the teenagers, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times it has to do with blood sugar regulation
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  Speaker 4: if they're eating more processed foods and junk foods. It
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  Speaker 4: could also be due to gut health. So if they're
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  Speaker 4: not eating enough fiber and they're not eliminating regularly, that
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  Speaker 4: could be problematic because as we all are dealing with hormones,
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  Speaker 4: you know, hormonal changes right at different stages of our
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  Speaker 4: life and definitely during puberty, and if you're not excreting
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  Speaker 4: those excess hormones, they're you know there, they can be
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  Speaker 4: causing havoc in our body and imbalances that are creating inflammation.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's really important for clear skin that we're
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  Speaker 4: pooping every single day. And so I would say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: for the teenage boys, it's it's with diet. It could
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  Speaker 4: be blood sugar, it could be you know, pro inflammatory
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  Speaker 4: foods if they're eating out a lot. And I know
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  Speaker 4: it is annoying because I was, you know, a teenager
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  Speaker 4: that had acne, and then you know, some of my
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  Speaker 4: friends didn't. And you know, even I have an older
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  Speaker 4: brother and a younger sister and I had the worst
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  Speaker 4: acne and we're all kind of uh, you know, living
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  Speaker 4: a similar diet and lifestyle or you know. So there's
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  Speaker 4: also a genetic component for sure. And what I mean
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  Speaker 4: by that is not necessarily that you know, if your
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  Speaker 4: genes are one way, you're going to get acne, but
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  Speaker 4: that you may be more susceptible and like diet and
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  Speaker 4: lifestyle maybe even more important for you versus somebody else
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  Speaker 4: who's jeans are a little bit differferent than yours. So
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  Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, the big thing that we all
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  Speaker 4: want to do, no matter what age, what gender we are,
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  Speaker 4: is we want to figure out what our sources of
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  Speaker 4: inflammation are.
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  Speaker 2: How do we do that?
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  Speaker 1: Do we start like an elimination diet or well, I like.
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  Speaker 4: To say everyone should be a body detective, and so
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  Speaker 4: we need to listen to all of the symptoms that
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  Speaker 4: we have. So acne is one symptom, but maybe there's
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  Speaker 4: other things going on.
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  Speaker 5: You know. How is the health of our hair? Is
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  Speaker 5: our hair falling out? Is it dry? How are nails
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  Speaker 5: are they breaking or not? Are they strong? How's our
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  Speaker 5: gut health? You know? For women, do you have PMS?
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  Speaker 5: You know, do you get crimps?
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  Speaker 4: Do you? But do you have headaches? Do you have
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  Speaker 4: you know, all of your little symptoms. There's all clues,
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  Speaker 4: and so you want to kind of take stock of
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  Speaker 4: what's going on in terms of your symptoms, and then
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  Speaker 4: you also want to look at your diet and lifestyle.
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  Speaker 4: So I would say there are really six key key
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  Speaker 4: things that I see that are most common like the
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  Speaker 4: underlying root factors that are leading to that inflammation. So
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  Speaker 4: number one I had mentioned is nutrient deficiencies. So in particular,
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  Speaker 4: the nutrient deficiencies that are most commonly associated with acne
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  Speaker 4: are vitamin A, zinc, and omega three.
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  Speaker 5: So you could have.
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  Speaker 4: One of these, you could have all of these, or
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  Speaker 4: again maybe nutrient deficiency isn't your issue, but for people
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  Speaker 4: who do have a deficiency, typically adding that nutrient back
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  Speaker 4: in is going to make a big difference. And so
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  Speaker 4: like let's talk vitamin A. For example, vitamin A is
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  Speaker 4: found primarily in organ meats, so beef, liver, cod liver oil,
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  Speaker 4: and then you can find the plant based form of
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  Speaker 4: vitamin A in orange orange fruits and vegetables, so sweet potatoes, carrots,
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  Speaker 4: you know, anything, but are not squash.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's that bright orange. So, for example, if you're
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  Speaker 5: a teenager and you're not eating and even.
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  Speaker 4: Adults are not necessarily eating organ meats and not necessarily
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  Speaker 4: eating their orange. You know, dark leafy greens are also
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  Speaker 4: a source of that beta caroteen, which the body converts
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  Speaker 4: to vitamin A. But if you're not eating these foods
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  Speaker 4: on a regular basis, it's very possible.
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  Speaker 5: That you're low vitamin A.
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  Speaker 4: And interestingly, certain acne medications right like acutane, it's a
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  Speaker 4: vitamin A derivative.
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  Speaker 5: And so.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't eat those vitamin A rich foods, then
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  Speaker 4: I would go get my blood tested and see, okay,
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  Speaker 4: do I have enough vitamin A? If not, let me
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  Speaker 4: add in some foods you know that contain these nutrients
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  Speaker 4: to to help. Omega three is another one. So Omega
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  Speaker 4: three is found primarily in seafood and in seeds, So
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  Speaker 4: things like you know, your wild salmon, your sardines, your mackerel,
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  Speaker 4: and then things like flax seed, chia seed, hemp, seeds,
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  Speaker 4: walnuts are all source source. So again, if you don't
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  Speaker 4: eat seafood, which a lot of people don't eat seafood
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  Speaker 4: or you don't eat it on a very regular basis,
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  Speaker 4: and then you don't eat seeds, you could very well
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  Speaker 4: be deficient in omega three. So that's why you know,
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  Speaker 4: working with a nutritionist or you know, a healthcare practitioner
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  Speaker 4: who can help do some testing and just see are
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  Speaker 4: you deficient in any nutrients. That could be a really
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  Speaker 4: good place to start because that's kind of a low
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  Speaker 4: hanging fruit, pretty easy to remedy. You just need to
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  Speaker 4: eat more of those foods. So that would be one
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  Speaker 4: one area. Another area would be pro inflammatory foods, which
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  Speaker 4: we have a lot of in our modern diet. So
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  Speaker 4: those are things like sugar, vegetable oils, right, which are
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  Speaker 4: very high in those omega six fats, which kind of
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  Speaker 4: compete with the omega three. So what ends up happening
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  Speaker 4: in the Western diet is that we're consuming very large
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  Speaker 4: amounts of omega six rich foods because pretty much all
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  Speaker 4: of our packaged foods and our restaurant foods, they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be cooked in vegetable oils, and vegetable oils are
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  Speaker 4: the primary sources. Is the primary source of the omega
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  Speaker 4: six in the American diet. So you know, we're getting
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  Speaker 4: too much omega six and we're getting too many pro
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  Speaker 4: inflammatory foods. That's going to just increase the inflammation in
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  Speaker 4: our body, which can show up on our skin as
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  Speaker 4: inflammation of the skin or acne. So making sure that
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  Speaker 4: we're eating an anti inflammatory diet is going to be
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  Speaker 4: really helpful. So instead of those processed packaged foods, obviously
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  Speaker 4: more whole foods and then foods like for example, we
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  Speaker 4: all know tumeric ginger, These are highly anti inflammatory foods,
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  Speaker 4: and incorporating more of those, just even our you know, vegetables,
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  Speaker 4: fruit in general, our whole foods are going to help
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  Speaker 4: reduce inflammation. Wild salmon, right, it is a rich source
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  Speaker 4: of MAGA three, So adding more anti inflammatory foods is
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  Speaker 4: going to help. The third thing would be blood sugar
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  Speaker 4: balance and hormone balance. We all know that hormones play
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  Speaker 4: a role in our skin health and acne. But what
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  Speaker 4: most people don't realize is that we actually have a
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  Speaker 4: lot of control over our hormones through.
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  Speaker 5: Our diet and our lifestyle.
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  Speaker 4: Stress can take a toll on our hormones, and certainly
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  Speaker 4: diet can and really the big I guess the biggest
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  Speaker 4: negative impact.
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  Speaker 5: On our hormones is sugar. So when we're eating a high.
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  Speaker 4: Glycemic load diet and not necessarily just sweet food, but
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  Speaker 4: even high glycemic carbohydrate rich foods like you know, bread, cereal, pasta,
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  Speaker 4: If that is the bulk of our diet, which you
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  Speaker 4: know it used to be the bulk of my diet,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's.
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  Speaker 5: Basically what I used to eat. That you know, can
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  Speaker 5: show throw our blood sugar off, which can.
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  Speaker 4: Then also take a toll on our our hormones and
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  Speaker 4: create this cascade of events that leads to more oily
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  Speaker 4: skin and more acne prone skin. So we want to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that we're balancing our blood sugar. Another issue
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  Speaker 4: could be stress. So I mentioned that a few times,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, you can eat the healthiest diet in
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  Speaker 4: the world, but if you're stressed, that's also going to
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  Speaker 4: be problematic because the research shows that stressful thoughts could
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  Speaker 4: actually negatively impact your gut. They wipe out some of
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  Speaker 4: that good bacteria, allowing some of those more opportunistic or.
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  Speaker 5: Bad bacteria to kind of proliferate.
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  Speaker 4: And then that leads to inflammation in the body, and
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  Speaker 4: inflammation in the body.
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  Speaker 5: Can lead to inflammation of the skin, which is acne.
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  Speaker 4: Another factor, which is not really food related, would be
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  Speaker 4: overly harsh skin care. I think there's been this rise
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  Speaker 4: of the ten step skincare and you know, very very
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  Speaker 4: harsh treatments. Treatments that used to be only you can
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  Speaker 4: only get them via prescription. They're now you know, you
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  Speaker 4: can get them at your local drug store. So this
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  Speaker 4: just overuse of too many products or just using very
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  Speaker 4: harsh products that can really irritate the skin and the
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  Speaker 4: skin barrier, which could also lead to breakouts. So those
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  Speaker 4: are some of like the really big kind of factors
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  Speaker 4: that I would look at first, and then you know,
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  Speaker 4: you'd want to assess your diet and lifestyle and see
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  Speaker 4: where you know, maybe you can implement some changes.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that is really hard for younger kids.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, I can't imagine Haley, you trying to tell.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they don't do it. But I actually like
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  Speaker 1: that they won't be bad enough. But let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you what I'm seeing the connection with. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: this all comes back to in our modern world that
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  Speaker 1: we live in. Of just like especially in America, the
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  Speaker 1: land of convenience is what I call it, Like you
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  Speaker 1: can just get anything anywhere, And it's really easy to
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  Speaker 1: solve something for busy people, which I don't know anyone
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  Speaker 1: who's just sitting around actually my teenage son right now.
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  Speaker 1: But we're in transition anyhow, We're looking at all of
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  Speaker 1: these different things. And a pill makes it really easy
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  Speaker 1: for acne, a pill makes it really easy for fat loss,
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  Speaker 1: A pill makes it, you know, easier for you know, whatever, infection.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a time and a place for everything in
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  Speaker 1: the modern medicine world. But as I take it from
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  Speaker 1: like the fitness and nutrition side of it as a
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  Speaker 1: strength coach, genetics, I feel like I'm having the exact
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  Speaker 1: same freaking conversation genetics, stress, diet, exercise, gut, microbiome being varied,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And what I tell people You said body detective,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, ding, I tell my people to
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  Speaker 1: be like a body scientist and.
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  Speaker 2: Like figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Like we all are very and we can be in
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  Speaker 1: tune with our bodies, but it's easy to disassociate when
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  Speaker 1: we're super busy and we don't pay attention to those signals.
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  Speaker 1: But our body is given us signals, it just we
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  Speaker 1: don't listen to them a lot of the time until
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  Speaker 1: the signals are really loud. Acne all over the face,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bodies breaking down, sleep is crap, it's giving
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  Speaker 1: a But I haven't always listened to them and been
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  Speaker 1: in tune with those signals.
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  Speaker 2: But anyways, just an interesting way to tie.
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  Speaker 1: It back that the modern life has definitely a retaboc
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  Speaker 1: on all of these things, where I'm like, did they
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  Speaker 1: struggle with this as much in the you know, early
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  Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 5: This is a great question that.
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  Speaker 6: Something I wanted to bring up is that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: right now, in the US, the rate of acne amongst
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  Speaker 6: like the under twenty crowd is like upwards of ninety percent,
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  Speaker 6: which is pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone every teenager is getting is getting acne right at
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  Speaker 4: some point. And we're also seeing a rise in twenty something,
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  Speaker 4: thirty something, forty something, and even beyond getting acne, which
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  Speaker 4: back in the nineteen hundreds, right, acne was more considered
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  Speaker 4: a like teenage affliction, right, more so than an adult issue.
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  Speaker 4: And so when we look at the statistics, the rate
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  Speaker 4: of acne is just like skyrocketing up. And it's because
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  Speaker 4: it's so prevalent in the US, it's very easy to think, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is just common, this is just like a rite
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  Speaker 4: of passage when you go through puberty.
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  Speaker 5: It's just something that happens, you know, for some people
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  Speaker 5: at lingers. For some people it goes away.
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  Speaker 4: But the reality is if we look historically, and if
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  Speaker 4: also we look at other countries that have that don't
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  Speaker 4: have the Western diet or other populations that are not
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  Speaker 4: eating the Western diet, we can see that the acne
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  Speaker 4: rate is you know, in some cases like practically nothing.
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  Speaker 4: And so there was there was some research, this was
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  Speaker 4: a few years ago where researchers went and looked at
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  Speaker 4: two different like more tribal communities that are eating you know,
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  Speaker 4: a whole food.
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  Speaker 5: Diet basically vegetables and meats, more or less livers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like the Afsha hunter gatherer
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  Speaker 4: tribe and the Kidaman Island islanders in Papua New Guinea,
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  Speaker 4: and they basically followed They followed one of these groups
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  Speaker 4: for I think three years. The other one, I want
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  Speaker 4: to say, it was like about a year, but zero acne,
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  Speaker 4: like like nothing, you know, over the entire course of
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  Speaker 4: that you know, that.
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  Speaker 5: Time period, that study time period.
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  Speaker 4: So the researchers then said, okay, maybe these people are
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  Speaker 4: genetically blessed and you know, that is why their skin
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  Speaker 4: is clear. And so they then looked at people who
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  Speaker 4: you know, ancestrally were from these communities, but then who
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  Speaker 4: had moved into the cities for work or whatever. And
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  Speaker 4: once they move into the cities, well, their rate of
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  Speaker 4: acne goes to whatever the rate of that city is.
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  Speaker 4: It's not you know, what their you know, people in
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  Speaker 4: their you know, from their their original community we're experiencing.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: So, you know, genetics can certainly play a role.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: But I think the issue that in my mind with
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: genetics is when people think, oh, I have genetic acne,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and then it's like, okay, I can't do anything, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: they just kind of keep on living.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: However they're living but not realizing.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: This whole field of epigenetics, which is how our diet
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: and lifestyle influence our genetics. And so even if you
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: are predisposed to something, that doesn't mean.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: You're necessarily going to get it. And by the way, no.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Acne gene has ever been found. There's not a gene
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: for acne. You know, there may be you know, different
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: genes that could influence you know, whether or not you
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: get acne, but there's no like specific acne gene and
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: so our diet and lifestyle is the field of ep
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: genetics has shown us that our diet and lifestyle though,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: can actually manipulate right and influence our genetics and how
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: our genes express themselves.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: And so that's why diet and lifestyle is so important.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Even if your parents had acne and you know, you'd
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: think it's it's genetic.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: I would guarantee you.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: That if you were to really work on your diet,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: work on your lifestyle, optimize your nutrients, optimize your gut health,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: eat enough fiber, uh, you know, keep your stress in check,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: you would see a world of difference.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And this is like so easy to say and much
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: harder to do. I want to I want to just
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that because I feel like it's the you know again,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: these similar conversations, totally different topics of what we teach
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and educate, but it's you know, it's really hard to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, take your stress down, yeah in the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you know, in the world, or sleep better or you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the diet is so hard to and getting the fiber
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and and there's like all of these different polls of.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: What what we need.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: But it seems to me from just the experts that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that we have had on that this microbiome of the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: gut is like in its infancy of what we know
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: about it, and we're just learning so much more all
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the time about how this contributes. And it's interesting to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: see that all of these fields are turning back in
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to the gut first instead of just kind of, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: throwing that to the wayside. So I have a husband
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and children that both struggle with irritable bell and so
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that has the gut has been like a huge piece.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Of you know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And then there's me who's like never sick, never had
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the flu, Like I just don't I don't know, it's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: just not something that has struggled with me. But I've
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: watched my children struggle. And it's hard because that gut
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: brain connection is super strong. I mean, I don't know
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: enough about it, but I know that it does go
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: hand in hand. So interesting when you say that, Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: When we talk about the gut skin connection, I always
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: like remind people it's actually the gut brain skin connection
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: because all three of these organs are in constant communication
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: and it's a two way communication. So really what happens
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: in one affects the other.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And we do know for.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Example, with acne, and listen, I was there, so I
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: know how upsetting it is to like look in the
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: mirror and to see this. And you know, for me,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: it wasn't even just having the acne. It was that
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I was doing everything I was told to do, doing
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the creams, doing this medication, that medication, and.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: My skin wasn't clearing.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: And I was like, there must be something wrong with
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: me because I'm literally following all the protocols for acne
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: and my acne is not clearing.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: So I'm broken and there must be something wrong with me.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: That's very hard for anyone, let alone a teenager to
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: really grapple with. And what you know, what we're learning
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: which is interesting, Well, first we know that there is
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: an overlap between people with acne and depression. And maybe
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: it's because you know, again you're depressed because you don't
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: feel as confident right as you can be about you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: about your skin. But also there's a lot of overlap
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: in that gut health space, right, so you know, depression,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: you know, you could be lacking certain probiotic strains. You
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: could also be lacking certain nutrients. So for example, that
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: mega three that we talked about earlier, which is so
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: important for acne and clear skin, it's also really important
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: for brain health, and so research has shown that people
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: with depression are more likely to have low levels of
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: omega three. Again, not everybody, but it does tend to
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: be a common deficiency.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: So when we're.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Addressing our diet and lifestyle for one thing, you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: it often ends up improving all the things, because everything
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: in our body is connected, right, And just like you
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: were saying earlier, we're kind of talking about the same
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: things no matter what we're dealing with. We're talking about,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: you know, making sure you're getting enough nutrients, making sure
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you're regular and your gut health is in top shape,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: making sure you're not you know, overly stressed, and you
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: have to manage your stress. All of these things, keeping
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: your blood sugar stable right, all of these things are
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: going to improve your health overall. Your mood, your immunity,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: your energy levels, all of the things.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I think that acne is such a confidence killer, and
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it really can overtake your life. I mean, I remember
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: when I was breaking out in my teens and twenties,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I would just not want to go anywhere because I
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: had such bad breakouts and I would be so insecure,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and then you get discouraged. And so I feel like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: of all the clients I've had working with skin, there's
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: this like urgency and just they feel desperate, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: like I just want to have clear, beautiful skin, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: it stresses them out, which is also not helping the issue,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: but they want it fixed.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Day.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Like what Haley was saying, the same thing. You get
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: on a workout program and a week later you're like,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: why are the results not here? And it's the same
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: thing with skin. Okay, I'm following this program with the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: skin care regimen, and I've changed my diet a little
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: and nothing's improving. And I think kind of having that
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: same mindset that we talk about with exercise and fitness
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: is it's the long game. It's not just this is
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: what you need to do for the next six to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: twelve weeks. This is just how you're going to have
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: beautiful skin and great health. And it's hard to tell
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: that to someone who doesn't want to go anywhere because
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: their acne is so bad and they're really discouraged and insecure.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: So I think maybe approaching it that way too, which
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: would be hard if you're sixteen years old. But it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: such a good point.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Well, so what is how important?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: We know that water is important obviously, but how because
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a terrible water drinker. I mean, everyone just assumes
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: that that I'm like crushing it, and you know, in
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: all of the the good I don't know things that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you should be doing that I preach to everyone else.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: But I'm not going to show you what I'm drinking
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: But I mean, how do you have like water?
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: How much water should we be drinking?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know what's individual on our exercise, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: just like that clearly has a huge impact on better skin, yes,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: m m yeah, So that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Will depend on the you know, how active you are,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: if you're in a hot climate, all those kinds of things,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: but generally you want it like like for women about
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: two point two leaders men about two and a half.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Again, that could vary.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: A little bit, but just to kind of you know, Laura,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: even to your points, I think the biggest turning point
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: for me with on my acne journey because I know
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: that it I mean it really tanked my confidence to
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: the point where I didn't want to go out.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I mean I actually had a nervous breakdown.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I remember crying in the bathroom hysterically one day, looking
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: at my face and just going, how is it possible
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: that I'm still breaking out despite me? Literally I'm like
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: a type a person like you tell me to do this,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: this is going to clear my skin.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to do it. So I followed, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: all the things, and nothing was working for me when
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I decided or too.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: And I know this is really hard, but when I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: decided that I was going to stop like hating myself
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: right and kind of spewing all those like negative thoughts
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: and think of the acne as a blessing in disguise,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: which again I know is really hard. But once I
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: realized it was a communication from my body, it was
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: not that something was wrong with me. It was just
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: that I wasn't giving my body the fuel that it needs.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Right Like in your car, you're not going to put
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: orange juice in the tank, right, you need to put gas.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: And so I was basically, you know, doing the equivalent
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: of putting orange juice in a car right into my
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: body because I was eating all of these fake and
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: processed foods and my body was giving me the alarm
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: light and saying, hey, you know.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Please give me something else.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I need nutrients, I need fiber, you know, I need
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: real food. And so when I had that mindset shift, Okay,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: this is a communication, how can I you know, how
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: can I address this? And it is step by step, Right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: You're not going to change everything overnight.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I certainly didn't.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: One of the easiest things to think about doing is
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: simply adding in more of those healthy foods, like the
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: fiber rich foods, the vegetables, basically just adding more of
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: those to your plate, and over time it's going to
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: help crowd out some of those other less healthy foods
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: because the fiber is going to fill you up. Even
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: protein as well. I feel like a lot of times
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: people are not eating enough protein. So have you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: making sure that you're having protein at every meal and
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: fiber at every meal and healthy fats. That is going
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: to keep you more satiated, so you don't want to
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: go on snack and don't want to have the dessert
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: or not as frequently, right, or not as much. So
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: that's like one small change, simply focusing on adding in
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: more vegetables, let's say, to your diet. So if you're
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: not eating any just add a cup a cup a day.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: If you're already eating a cup, make it too, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: just gradually increasing that way. The second thing is I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: a really big fan, especially if this works well for teenagers,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: is upgrading your favorite foods. So if you like chips,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: for example, then looking for brands of chips that use
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: healthier oils like an avocado oil for example, or you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: coconut oil and olive oil, right, so at least you're
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: not getting so many of those omega six fats. If
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: you like cookies, right, looking for brands that's maybe they're sweetened,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you know, with apple sauce or dates for example, versus sugar,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: and maybe they're made with nuts and seeds, so they're
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: a little bit higher fiber, a little bit higher protein
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: versus just like a flour cookie.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: So do looking for upgrades.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: That's another simple way to make it a little bit
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: easier to make these changes. And I always recommend people
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: make one change at a time. So if you're not
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: drinking enough water, you know, work on that for a
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: week or two before you add in the next the one.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Then okay, let's add in more vegetables.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I'm only eating one cup, Okay, let me do two
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: this week and can kind of work your way up
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: to like five six cups plus, but do it very gradually,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: week by week, and just giving yourself grace. Also, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: will say that, you know, sometimes people think that food
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: changes and lifestyle changes will take forever. But you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: if you're adding in more of those anti inflammatory foods,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: even if you're still eating some of the other stuff,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: you're going to see you're going to see a change.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: And will your skin clear up overnight, No, definitely not,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: but you're going to see or a dot and redness
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: or reduction in bumps.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: You know. I even I.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Always challenge people like to eat an anti inflammatory diet
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: for three days. I have this set of recipes like
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: clear skin recipes on my site, this like three day plan,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Like eat these recipes for three days and you will
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: see a difference in your skin. And I can't tell
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you how many people write in and send me photos
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: and be like, oh my god, I cannot believe this
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: has actually worked.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: You know, my.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Redness is down, my bumps are down, I'm not breaking out,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: there's no new breakouts. And it's only in three days.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: And so when you know, continue this, give it three months,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: six months, you know, you will see.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: A huge difference.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: And I would last thing I'll add on this point
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: because a lot of times these medications or even skincare routines,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: they take three months six months anyway, So it's really
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: the same, you know, the same amount of time.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: That's true again, and when you see improvement, you're so
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: much more motivated to do what you're supposed to do.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for surein area of your life. Yeah, exactlytly.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Just that's why, like taking a little short I also
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: find breaking it down instead of doing Okay, I'm going
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: to do this for three months, do it for three days,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: do it for a week, do it for a month,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: and then you know, as you see your progress, you're
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: going to want going to want to extend that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Do you see this with ezema too?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Does that fall into I know it's different than acne,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: but have you ever heard of that helping with anyone
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that's reached out to you?
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: So with exema, psoriasis and rosation, definitely, diet and lifestyle
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: can can be helpful as well. There are other factors
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: you know, involved, like beyond just the same exact ones
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: as zacne, but there's a lot of a lot of overlap,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: especially the gut health, the anti inflammatory, diet, reducing stress,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: all of these things are highly beneficial.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Rosation is really triggered by food, isn't it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Food and gut health. Food and gut health.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: There are some certain specific gut imbalances that have been
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: linked to roseatia. So that's why I also doing comprehensive
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: gut testing can be really beneficial, so you can see
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: exactly what's going on in your gut and then figure out, Okay,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: what exactly do I need for my gut for my issue.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: So do you recommend people using clean beauty products on
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: their face? Obviously the change happens from within, but yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: what do you recommend your clients?
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I'm a fan of clean natural.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Because for two reasons, Like one, they tend to be
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: and this is not always the case, right, there are
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: natural things that are still very harsh. Right, you don't
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: want to put like, I don't know, let's say, just
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent essential oils.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Like all over your face.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: But natural products tend to be a bit gentler. And
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I believe that when we're very gentle, you know, on
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: the outside, and we do the heavy lifting on the inside.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: That's the best case scenario, because sometimes what happens when
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: you use very harsh products, it's just you know, disrupting
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: your skin barrier and exacerbating you know, your skin even more.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: So that's why I'm I'm a fan of gentle skincare.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: And then the second thing is, you know, we're exposed
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: to so many chemicals and toxins in our daily.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Lives and in our environments.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: And another thing that is important for our overall health,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: but our skin is making sure that we're you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: detoxing properly.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: And that you know, we're not we don't have you.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Know, excessive amounts of all these toxins in our system
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: that we're overburdening our liver.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: So that's why I'm also a fan of you know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: natural products.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite one of your favorite brands, you probably
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: don't want us.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: It's okay if you don't have one, No that this
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: is okay.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like such a hippie in that regard,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Like I'll often use like straight up like for example,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: ho Hobo oil.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I love using ho Hobo oil.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: As my makeup remover. I just put that on and
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: then use a cotton to take it off for skin here.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I really love the Eminence brand. I also love Covo
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: that's another brand that's really good.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: What else do I use?
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I kind of use like a hodgepodge of things, but
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I would say those those, and then I also do
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: like using for acne.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I do like using tea tree oil.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: That is one of the essential oils that you can
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: use on your skin directly, like as a spot treatment.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: One hundred pure Tea tree.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Oil is amazing for for acne because it has anti
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: inflammatory properties and also if you you know, like me,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: which we shouldn't do, but I know sometimes you pick
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: at them right, it will help to you know, prevent
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: any infection.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I love Eminence too, used it for years.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really nice.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like this has been such an incredible
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: conversation because I hope anyone that's listening that's really frustrated
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: with their skin, they feel like they have a path
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and there's hope. And you also teach you have a
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: clear Skin Plan where you coach them through it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, exactly.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: So My Clear Skin Plan is a ninety day program
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  Speaker 4: that helps you figure out the root causes of your
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  Speaker 4: breakouts and then remedy them through diet and lifestyle changes.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been yeah, pretty pretty effective.
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  Speaker 5: I have lots of happy.
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  Speaker 4: Clients there, and you can see that kind of the
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  Speaker 4: before and afters. And I think sometimes people are very
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  Speaker 4: skeptical about the power food has over our skin. But
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  Speaker 4: if you just give yourself ninety days even thirty days
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  Speaker 4: to experiment and be a body scientist like you say,
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  Speaker 4: you will see you will see the impact.
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  Speaker 2: Can they take those?
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  Speaker 1: Do you offer that like year round, like somebody can
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: just jump in, or do you have like open closed
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  Speaker 1: courses at certain times.
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  Speaker 4: They can join at any time? It's open anytime you
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  Speaker 4: can start.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, do you do one on one?
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  Speaker 5: Two? I know I do.
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  Speaker 4: I do, Yes, I do so for anyone who wants
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  Speaker 4: to do like more of a more of a deep dive,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I do also offer one on ones.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just nice to have someone guide you through
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  Speaker 3: the process and help you.
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  Speaker 5: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's nice because then I can also give
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  Speaker 4: like a little bit more individualized feedback, right, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: looking at your food diary and looking at you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: your your specific scenario and offering some more targeted guidance.
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  Speaker 5: Because one one.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Common thing people will say, and I'm not sure if
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: you know you see this as well, but they'll be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I eat really healthy, but I'm you know, I'm still
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  Speaker 4: breaking out or I have this issue that issue.
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  Speaker 5: But when you actually put down on paper, you know
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  Speaker 5: what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: You know what they're Yeah, there is some statistic.
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  Speaker 5: I forget exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 4: But you know when you ask people like do you
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  Speaker 4: eat healthy, like ninety percent of people will say yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like I eat.
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  Speaker 5: I eat very healthy. But then we obviously know that
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  Speaker 5: they can't be the case.
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  Speaker 4: And the issue is, you know, everyone defines healthy differently,
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  Speaker 4: right and especially now with social media, there's so much
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  Speaker 4: noise and like vegan.
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  Speaker 5: Diet, carnivore diet, keto diet, this diet, that diet. You know,
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  Speaker 5: there's there's five.
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  Speaker 4: Million diets out there, and it's like it's a matter
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  Speaker 4: of really listening to your body and finding out what
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  Speaker 4: works best for you and not following like any trendy
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  Speaker 4: fads or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: I would don't agree more say that's it, Well, where
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: can people find you?
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  Speaker 4: So?
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  Speaker 5: My website is Maria Marlow dot com and Marlow is
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  Speaker 5: spelled m A R. L Owe.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also on Instagram as Maria marlow and on TikTok
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  Speaker 4: and YouTube, I am Glow by Marlowe.
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  Speaker 5: I love it well.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for thanks taking time because we
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: know you have a new baby and time is precious,
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  Speaker 3: so we really appreciate you being on the podcast.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much for having me on. It
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  Speaker 5: was an absolute pleasure.
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