Latest / The Courtroom Files / January 26 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #217
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- 0:01Good morning, everybody. Happy Monday.
- 0:03Welcome to TCF LIVE. Good to have you all here.
- 0:05Judge Vincent Colada just took the bench in Ohio.
- 0:07Let's see what's going on. President in court is the
- 0:12President. Who is accompanied?
- 0:13By her attorney, Miss Mary Catherine Corrigan.
- 0:15You're here today for a change of plea hearing.
- 0:17It is the state's understanding that the defendant is prepared
- 0:21to withdraw her previously entered plea of not.
- 0:23Guilty and entered. Plea of guilty to Count 1,
- 0:26tampering with evidence, a felony of the third degree,
- 0:29along with the attached firearms specification for one year.
- 0:34The state would move to dismiss the remaining count.
- 0:36Two at the. Time of sentencing There is no
- 0:39agreement with regard to sentencing and prison advantage.
- 0:43Thank you, Miss Corgan. Does that all sound accurate?
- 0:46It does, Your Honor. Thank you.
- 0:48And Miss Verona, were you able to hear what the prosecutor and
- 0:50your lawyer just had to say regarding what they believe your
- 0:53intentions are here today? Yes, I do, your honor.
- 0:55And you can be seated at this time both you I don't I don't
- 0:57interpret it as any disrespect. It's takes a little bit of time.
- 1:00It's easier to be sitting down. We go through everything here.
- 1:02Thank you. But you're the hero, was said.
- 1:04Yes, Sir. They indicated a court they
- 1:05believe it's your intention to withdraw your previously honor
- 1:08plea of not guilty to Count 1 specification.
- 1:14Count 2 would get dismissed with the first sentencing to get some
- 1:17reports completed. Come back on a future day for
- 1:19sentencing where there's no agreement between the parties
- 1:22regarding any recommendations for sentencing.
- 1:24Each size for you to recommend to the court whatever sentence
- 1:27they feel is the right thing to do.
- 1:29Is that your understanding of the discussions that took place
- 1:31between your lawyer and the prosecutor?
- 1:33More importantly, what you want to do today?
- 1:34Yes, sure. Well, before I can accept your
- 1:36plea, I need to make sure you understand everything going on
- 1:39here. I need to make sure you
- 1:40understand what it is you're charged with them pleading
- 1:43guilty to the right you have that you give up by pleading
- 1:46guilty as well as all the possible penalties you face.
- 1:49So for me to determine those issues, I will ask you a series
- 1:52of questions. If at any point when I'm asking
- 1:55you the questions, if you're unsure or unclear of anything,
- 1:57I'm asking you if you need anything repeated or clarified,
- 2:01you want a moment to talk with your lawyer to ask her
- 2:03questions. Or even if you want to ask me
- 2:05questions, make sure you let me know that.
- 2:07So I need to make sure you understand everything we're
- 2:08doing. All right, absolutely.
- 2:09All right, let's get started then.
- 2:11How old are you I? Am 48 years old.
- 2:14Are you able to read and write the English language?
- 2:17Yes, I am. Real.
- 2:18Any difficulty with that or difficulty understanding what
- 2:20you read in the English language?
- 2:21No. Are you AUS citizen?
- 2:23Yes, I am. Now, before coming into court
- 2:26here today, have you any drugs or alcohol of any kind?
- 2:29No, you are. What about in the last 48 hours?
- 2:31No, not even prescribed medication.
- 2:34I am prescribed medication. What prescribed medication would
- 2:37you have taken within the last couple days?
- 2:38I am on Lexapro, I am on hydroxyzine, I am on prizosin
- 2:45and then just stuff for my back and that's it.
- 2:49But is the stuff for your back the?
- 2:51Stuff for. Your back.
- 2:52I'm on Robaxin, it's called Robaxin and then I, I don't
- 2:58remember what it's called for my stomach for acid reflux.
- 3:06So in the paperwork I have in second page every time I'm not
- 3:10under the influence of any drugs or alcohol.
- 3:12I'm not taking any drugs or alcohol in a 48 hour period
- 3:15preceding this hearing. And I added except for Lexapro,
- 3:19hydroxyzine, prezocin, reboxin and acid reflux medication.
- 3:23Yes. Correct.
- 3:24That sound accurate? Yeah, sure.
- 3:25Now, any of those medications that I just listed that you've
- 3:28taken within the last couple days, do they in any way affect
- 3:33your ability to understand or appreciate where you are, what's
- 3:37going on around you to communicate?
- 3:39Anything, if anything, they help me, right?
- 3:42So no negative impact or influence because of these
- 3:44medications? Not at all.
- 3:49Now, you would have been served with a copy of this indictment
- 3:52back in very end of October. That's the document, maybe
- 3:54beginning of November, the document that sets forth the
- 3:57charges you're accused of committing.
- 3:58Do you remember getting that? Yes, I do.
- 4:00And at some point you had the chance to look that over.
- 4:03Yes, your Honor. Now, in that indictment, you are
- 4:05charged with two counts. You're pleading guilty to the
- 4:10first council. I'm going to review that with
- 4:12you. If you have any questions, make
- 4:13sure you ask but what's alleged here in Count 1 and what you're
- 4:16admitting to is that or about September 15th, 2025 and or
- 4:20September 16th, 2025, Willoughby Lake County, Ohio.
- 4:24That you knowing that an official proceeding or
- 4:26investigation was in progress was about to be or likely to be
- 4:29instituted. That you alter destroyed,
- 4:31concealed or removed any record, document or thing with purpose
- 4:35to impair its value or availability as evidence in such
- 4:38proceeding or investigation. That kind of constitutes the
- 4:41offense of tampering with evidence.
- 4:43It's a felony of the third degree.
- 4:46Do you understand what you're charged with them pleading
- 4:47guilty to and count 1 I do any questions about it?
- 4:50No, there's also a firearm specification attached to this
- 4:53count that alleges that you had a firearm honor about your
- 4:57person under control while you committed the offense of
- 4:59tampering with evidence. Understand what's alleged in
- 5:03that specification. I do any questions about it?
- 5:05No, there are. Now there's a second count of
- 5:09this indictment of obstructing justice, the felony of third
- 5:12degree, that's being dismissed pursuant to the agreement.
- 5:14Is that your understanding? It is your honor any.
- 5:16Questions about that charge I do.
- 5:17Not. Well, then before I can accept
- 5:19your plea, I'm guilty to count one that I just read to you.
- 5:22I need to make sure you understand all the rights you're
- 5:23giving up by pleading guilty. And you first of all, have the
- 5:27right to have a trial. And the trial would be to me as
- 5:29a judge or I would listen to all the evidence.
- 5:31And I make that decision whether you're guilty or not guilty.
- 5:34But you also have a constitutional right to have a
- 5:36jury trial. A jury trial would be in front
- 5:38of twelve citizens here from Lake County who would listen to
- 5:41all the evidence each side wanted to present.
- 5:44The jurors would consider and weigh all that evidence, and
- 5:46then those jurors would make that ultimate decision.
- 5:48And that ultimate decision reached by the jurors would have
- 5:50to be unanimous. Unanimous means all 12 of them
- 5:52would have to agree together. One way or the other is each
- 5:55separate charge whether you're guilty or not guilty.
- 5:57Do you understand that? Do you understand by pleading
- 5:59guilty or giving up your right to have a trial?
- 6:13Now, if we had a trial, you would have the right to have an
- 6:15attorney represent you at that trial.
- 6:17If you cannot afford an attorney, the court would
- 6:18appointment for you free of charge to do that.
- 6:20Do you understand that? I do.
- 6:22Excuse me. No, I had a trial.
- 6:25The prosecutor here would be representing the State of Ohio
- 6:27and she would have what we refer to as the burden of proof.
- 6:30With her having the burden of proof, what that actually means
- 6:33is that it is her job or she bears the responsibility or the
- 6:36obligation of proving you guilty at a trial.
- 6:39Before you could ever be found guilty, you're presumed innocent
- 6:43of the charges. And the presumption of innocence
- 6:44sticks with you and remains with you until the state, if at all,
- 6:48I was ever able at a trial to overcome that presumption and
- 6:50prove you guilty. You understand that?
- 6:51Yeah, sure. Now, I speak of this burden of
- 6:58proof, since this is a criminal case that burdens what we refer
- 7:01to as proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
- 7:03Highest burden of proof we have in our justice system and what
- 7:06it means, it's the amount of the evidence and the quality of that
- 7:10evidence. The state would have presented a
- 7:11trial to prove you guilty. So in this case, the state would
- 7:14have to present evidence to prove each element or each part
- 7:17of the charge beyond any reasonable doubt before you
- 7:19could ever be found guilty of this charge.
- 7:21Specification of the trial. Do you understand that?
- 7:24Understand by pleading guilty or giving up your right to make the
- 7:27prosecutor prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt at a
- 7:29trial. Now, in order to do that, or at
- 7:33least in order to try to do that, prosecutor bring witnesses
- 7:37into the courtroom to testify for the state by answering
- 7:39questions from the prosecutor. Once those witnesses answered
- 7:42the prosecutor's questions, then your lawyer would have the right
- 7:45on your behalf to ask those same person's questions.
- 7:48That's called cross examination. She could ask him anything she
- 7:51wanted to within certain rules. Do you understand that?
- 7:54You understand by pleading guilty or giving up your right
- 7:56to cross examine or confront those witnesses that would come
- 7:59in here and testify against you? I do.
- 8:02And you also have the right to trial.
- 8:03You can call your own witnesses to come to court to testify for
- 8:07you if you wanted to, and answer your lawyers questions.
- 8:09Now, you don't have to do that. I'm not required to do that, but
- 8:12you have a right to do that if you want to do understand that.
- 8:14Yeah, sure. And you further can request this
- 8:16court issue an order. We call that order a subpoena.
- 8:19What a subpoena would actually do is it would force or make
- 8:24someone come to court to testify for you and answer your lawyers
- 8:26questions if they weren't willing to come in voluntarily
- 8:29on their own. Do you understand that?
- 8:30Yeah, sure. Do you realize you're giving up
- 8:32that right? I do.
- 8:39Now, you also have the right of the trial.
- 8:40You could choose to testify on your own behalf if you wanted
- 8:43to. But you do have a constitutional
- 8:45right not to testify if you don't want to.
- 8:47That's a decision or a choice that you would have to make.
- 8:51Do you understand that? And since that's your choice,
- 8:55what that really means then is that nobody else could force you
- 8:58or make you. Nobody could compel you to
- 9:01testify against yourself at a trial if you didn't want to.
- 9:05I can't make you testify, but more importantly, the prosecutor
- 9:08is not allowed to call you as a witness and make you get up on
- 9:10the stand and force you to answer questions and testify.
- 9:14Your own lawyer can't make you testify if you didn't want to.
- 9:15Do you understand that? Further, understand that if we
- 9:19went to trial and you were found guilty, you would have the right
- 9:24to appeal or challenge that guilty finding to a higher court
- 9:27that sits above me and reviews my decisions.
- 9:30Am I pleading guilty here today? You're giving up or waiving any
- 9:32right you have to appeal it. Guilty fighting.
- 9:34This court will enter if your plea is accepted as well as any
- 9:37other issues you could raise or brought to my attention up to
- 9:39this time. You understand that?
- 9:41Yes, your. Honor, all right.
- 9:46Well, do you have any questions at all for me regarding any of
- 9:49these rights we've just discussed?
- 9:50These are all the rights you have and all the rights you're
- 9:51giving up by pleading guilty. Any questions?
- 9:54No, Your Honor, you're not. Do you understand them all?
- 9:56Yes, your Honor. Do you still want to plead
- 9:57guilty? I do.
- 9:59Do you understand a guilty plea of the complete admission of
- 10:01guilt? It means you're admitting to the
- 10:02facts being alleged by the prosecutor.
- 10:04We're not going to argue later you didn't do it or someone else
- 10:07response or anything like that. Do you understand that?
- 10:09Further, as a result of pleading guilty, the effect of the guilty
- 10:12plea is that you'll be found guilty by the court and then you
- 10:15will subsequently on another day be sentenced by the court.
- 10:18Do you understand that? Now, as far as sentencing goes,
- 10:22you're pleading guilty to a felony of the third degree.
- 10:25This offense is punishable by a term in prison of a minimum of
- 10:28nine months, a maximum of 36 months or increments in between
- 10:32by the 12/18/20 4:30. So at the time of sentencing is
- 10:36I'll select one of those numbers 9121820430 or 36 and that that
- 10:41would be the number of months in prison you'd have to serve for
- 10:44the tampering with evidence charge.
- 10:45Understand that charge also has what we call firearm
- 10:49specification that's attached to it.
- 10:51This firearm specification requires the court impose A
- 10:54mandatory prison term of one year that has to be served prior
- 10:58to and consecutive to whatever prison sentence I impose in the
- 11:02tampering with evidence, the 9121820430 or 36 months.
- 11:06So you serve the one year first and then you would serve
- 11:09whatever the prison term is on the tampering with evidence, but
- 11:11they have to be served consecutively, which means one
- 11:14after the other. You understand that?
- 11:15Yes, I do not have the ability if you've heard the term
- 11:18concurrent before, concurrent mean sentences are run together
- 11:21at the same time. I I'm not allowed, I don't have
- 11:23the authority to run the firearm specification that prison term
- 11:26for the tampering charge concurrent.
- 11:28They have to be consecutive. If you understand that any
- 11:30questions about that and in as much as the firearms
- 11:36specification requires a mandatory prison sentence, that
- 11:39means I'm required to impose a prison sentence on the tampering
- 11:41with evidence charge as well the 9 to 36 month range I mentioned
- 11:45understand that I do now you're currently on probation or parole
- 11:53to any other courts or agencies I.
- 11:55Am not, your honor. You have any other criminal
- 11:57charges pending against you anywhere?
- 11:58I do not. Your honor, I just, I don't
- 12:02think she does judge. She does have a quite a
- 12:05checkered criminal history and does have some substance abuse
- 12:09issues and she doesn't believe she does it.
- 12:12I just we don't know of it. We don't fair.
- 12:15Enough. I just want to I'll.
- 12:17Explain the reason I'm asking. It's nothing more than if you
- 12:20have a pending charge against you, felony charge, and you're
- 12:24sentenced to prison on that other case before you're
- 12:27sentenced. In this case, I could run, I'd
- 12:31have to run the consecutive, the firearm specification has to be
- 12:34consecutive to anything else. But that's only if you're
- 12:37sentenced to prison before you come back here for sentencing.
- 12:41Without that's happening because you're you're you're not going
- 12:43to get out here. It doesn't appear to that's the
- 12:45case to go anywhere else. Yeah.
- 12:49You're on. I don't, I don't believe.
- 12:51OK, That's the only reason I'm telling you that if you're
- 12:53sentenced to prison before you're sentenced here, I could
- 12:56run my prison term consecutive to that.
- 12:58The only reason I'm asking that. Sorry, I can't.
- 13:06I can't run it, you know, concurrent or consecutive to
- 13:10some possible future unknown sentence.
- 13:12It's already got me imposed. Yeah, I honestly, I honestly,
- 13:15Your Honor, as far as I know, I don't have any.
- 13:17Fine, that's the reason I was asking.
- 13:18The reason I was asking. I've done everything in my
- 13:20possible ability when I fall down and if I fall down to get
- 13:24myself back into either a psych ward or any type of treatment.
- 13:28I never thought I'd be back in front of a judge again, Your
- 13:30Honor. So.
- 13:33Were you, I may have asked you this and if I did that's good
- 13:36again because I can't remember if I asked are you, were you on
- 13:38probation or parole or post release control to any of the
- 13:41courts or agencies when this happened?
- 13:42No. Now if a prison term is imposed
- 13:45in this case, upon your release from prison, you could be placed
- 13:48on what is called Post release control, sometimes referred to
- 13:51as parole. It's a period of supervision you
- 13:53would be on after you completed the prison sentence and it could
- 13:56be in this case up to two years. You understand that if you're on
- 13:59post release control and you're violating the conditions of your
- 14:02supervision, the Parole Authority can return you to
- 14:04prison as punishment for violating their rules for
- 14:07another nine months. For each violation you commit up
- 14:10to an overall maximum of 50% or half of whatever the prison term
- 14:14was imposed by the court. Do you understand that?
- 14:18Now, aside for the possible prison or the mandatory prison
- 14:22sentence I just mentioned, there's other sanctions that
- 14:24could be ordered. You could be fined in this case
- 14:26up to $10,000. It could be ordered to pay court
- 14:29costs. You could also be ordered to
- 14:31reimburse the county for any cost of confinement, community
- 14:34supervision or treatment, if any of that were applicable.
- 14:36Do you understand that? Yes, your Honor.
- 14:49Now, a few moments ago I was explaining the prison sentences,
- 14:51prison sentences, the possible prison sentences, and I told you
- 14:54it was mandatory, though that prison had to be imposed.
- 14:56That means you are not eligible for probation, what's called
- 14:59community control sanctions. Do you understand that?
- 15:03Now, while you're not eligible for community control sanctions
- 15:05here, at the time of sentencing, after you have served any
- 15:09mandatory prison term that would be imposed in this case, in this
- 15:12case would be the one year for the firearm specification, you
- 15:14would be eligible at some point to request judicial release,
- 15:18which is a motion you could file with the court requesting to be
- 15:25released and put on community control sanctions.
- 15:27Now, it's not you're not entitled to it and it's not
- 15:30guaranteed you would get it, but you could request it after you
- 15:33serve some period of time after the mandatory prison sentence.
- 15:36You understand that? Thank you.
- 15:45Lastly, when we come back here for sentencing, you'll have the
- 15:47right at that time to say anything you want, anything you
- 15:49want me to know or consider. Your lawyer could speak on your
- 15:51behalf. Recommend a sentence to the
- 15:53court. The prosecutor can also
- 15:54recommend a sentence to the court.
- 15:55Do you understand that? Yes.
- 15:56Sure. Thank you.
- 15:57Do you understand that whatever the lawyers say at the time of
- 16:00sentencing regarding what they think the sentence should be, it
- 16:03is just what I said. It's a recommendation.
- 16:04I don't have to file that if I didn't think it was the right
- 16:06thing to do. Do you understand that?
- 16:07Yeah, sure. All right.
- 16:09Well, do you have any questions at all about the potential
- 16:11penalties you face by pleading guilty?
- 16:13I do not. You understand all the possible
- 16:14consequences? I do.
- 16:16Do you still want to plead guilty?
- 16:17Yeah, sure. Have you had enough time to
- 16:19discuss this case with your lawyer and have her review the
- 16:22reports with you, discuss issues, answer whatever
- 16:24questions you may have? I have.
- 16:26Are you satisfied with the advice and counsel of your
- 16:28lawyer? I do.
- 16:30Has she or has anyone else made any promises to you about what's
- 16:33going to happen at sentencing which is inducing you to plead
- 16:36guilty? No, Your Honor.
- 16:38Have you been threatened or coerced in any way to plead
- 16:40guilty? No.
- 16:42Are you entering the plea freely and voluntarily?
- 16:44Yes. All.
- 16:51Right. Any questions for me then at
- 16:52this time regarding anything we've talked about the right,
- 16:55you're giving up the penalties you face, but you're pleading
- 16:59guilty to any questions. I do not your honor, you.
- 17:04Still want to plead guilty? Yeah, sure.
- 17:07I know what's going to happen at this point.
- 17:08The prosecutor here is going to explain for me what she believes
- 17:10the facts would show if we had a trial.
- 17:12I want you to listen to what she says cuz then I got some follow
- 17:15up questions for you. All right.
- 17:16Yes, sure. All right, Mr. Milan.
- 17:20Thank you, Your Honor. Had this matter proceeded to
- 17:21trial, the state would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that
- 17:24on September 15th, 2025, there was a shooting that took place
- 17:28at Fox Run Apartments in the city of Willoughby.
- 17:31Lake. County, Ohio, where Damonte
- 17:33Perry was shot and later died. The defendant.
- 17:36Was interviewed. By the Willoughby.
- 17:37Police Department where she admitted that she was aware of
- 17:40the shooting that occurred at Fox Run on September 15th, 2025
- 17:45and that her son, Christopher Verona had called her sometime
- 17:48after it happened. Christopher Verona told her that
- 17:50he was in trouble and she told him that she was coming down
- 17:54there. Christopher Verona told the
- 17:55defendant that he had the gun. The defendant admitted to the.
- 17:59Willoughby Police Department that she retrieved the gun from
- 18:01the bushes at Fox Run Apartments, again located in
- 18:04Willoughby, Lake County, Ohio. In order to.
- 18:07Assist Christopher Verona. She took the firearm and gave it
- 18:10to a drug dealer in Cleveland. The Willoughby Police.
- 18:12Department was able to recover recover the firearm from that
- 18:15person and were able to confirm. That the same.
- 18:18Firearm was used in the shooting on September 15th, 2:00. 1025.
- 18:21Thank. You.
- 18:25Thank you. Miss Rona, were you able to hear
- 18:27what the prosecutor had to say regarding what she believes the
- 18:31evidence would show if we had a trial?
- 18:32Yes, I have. What, if anything, good to say
- 18:34about those facts as she presented them?
- 18:37Are they true? Did you do what you said?
- 18:39OK, Your honor, to to a degree. When my son called me, I didn't
- 18:44go into where he was. We called Melvin Harris.
- 18:48I did go as close as I could. I did not go in.
- 18:50My son told me the gun. He did.
- 18:53Not go in where? To the apartment.
- 18:54To the apartment where it had happened.
- 18:58The next day my child had my food card.
- 19:00This is this can all be proven. I want to know if you tampered
- 19:04with this gun that which was evidence in a.
- 19:07Proceeding. He wants to know, did you go and
- 19:09retrieve the gun? From the bushes afterwards.
- 19:11Knowing that it was potentially evidence in a criminal.
- 19:14Investigation. Yes, you are.
- 19:16And you possessed it when you got it.
- 19:18Yes, I did. Anything else you'll be able to
- 19:21explain to the probation department?
- 19:22I just wanted to find out whether you are admitting to the
- 19:25specific elements of the offense that you OK.
- 19:29I didn't know if you wanted to know exactly what had happened.
- 19:31You're going to get a chance, you're going to go to the
- 19:33probation department and meet with them and give them your own
- 19:35version twice of what happened. You can talk to them orally and
- 19:39have an oral interview with them.
- 19:40And you're also going to get a chance to write it out if you
- 19:42want. OK, so you'll, you'll get that
- 19:44opportunity. I'll get a chance to to look at
- 19:46it. So I'm not review that.
- 19:48Not an opportunity. I will review it so, but the
- 19:51point here is just that you're admitting to the specific
- 19:53elements of the charge, OK, which is what what you just said
- 19:57that you went got that gun knowing that it was evidence in
- 20:01a criminal proceeding. Yeah, I'm sorry, I was just a.
- 20:04Little sorry. Thank you.
- 20:05Did did you know that he had died at that point?
- 20:07Though I did not it. Doesn't.
- 20:09I don't think it changes. No, it doesn't.
- 20:11The actual elements of the facts.
- 20:12Because it's just that it's a criminal investigation that you
- 20:14knew was going on, you knew that, correct?
- 20:17Yes, yes. Very well then regarding count
- 20:221, charging with tampering with evidence of felony the third
- 20:24degree, what is your plea to that guilty?
- 20:27Regarding the one year firearm specification, what is your plea
- 20:29to that guilty? All right.
- 20:31I have in my possession at this time A4 page document called a
- 20:33written plea of guilty and judgment entry which explains
- 20:36everything I've just explained to you.
- 20:38Before I can accept your plea, I need to make sure you understand
- 20:40that document. They sign it here in open court.
- 20:44Now my understanding is before when he came out here, you had a
- 20:49chance to go over that document with your lawyer.
- 20:51Is that correct? Yeah, sure.
- 20:53Miss Corrigan, is that accurate? Did you review that with I?
- 20:57Did just. Corona read it over with her.
- 20:59Yes Sir. Did she indicate an
- 21:01understanding of it to you when you did that?
- 21:02She did very much so is.
- 21:22That correct Miss Corona So you understand the document, yes,
- 21:24sure. Any questions for me about what
- 21:25it says? No, you are and also appears you
- 21:28signed the document. Did you in fact sign it?
- 21:30Yes, you witnessed that, Miss Corrigan.
- 21:33I did. Similar on you as well.
- 21:36Very well that at this time the court will accept the defense
- 21:38oral and written plea of guilty. Let the record reflect defendant
- 21:41was here in open court with her lawyer advised of all our
- 21:44constitutional rights, made a knowing, intelligent, voluntary
- 21:46waiver of those rights. Court also finds that
- 21:49understands the nature of the charge that affected the guilty
- 21:51plea as well as the maximum penalty that can be imposed.
- 21:54Finding this to be knowing, intelligent and voluntary, the
- 21:56court will accept the defendant's plea by independent
- 21:58guilty of Count 1, tampering with evidence of founding a
- 22:01third degree in violation of 2921 point 12A1 along with the
- 22:06firearm specification. Count 2 will be dismissed.
- 22:10The first sentencing order, pre sentence report and
- 22:13investigation and I'll continue to fence bond.
- 22:18Is there anything else for the record at this time, Miss
- 22:20Hinaline? We did.
- 22:22A victim impact statement as well.
- 22:26Victim impact statement. Miss Cory?
- 22:30Anything else? No, thank you, Judge.
- 22:32Thank you. All right.
- 22:34All. Right, I'll be in to see you.
- 22:36Depending on the weather, it might not be tomorrow.
- 22:37But that's fine. Good morning everybody.
- 22:42TCF live on a Monday. Welcome.
- 22:43Good to have you here. If you are new to the show,
- 22:46welcome. Happy Monday to you as well.
- 22:49So basically what we do here is we spend 3 hours hopping around
- 22:53the country from court to court to court, seeing what's going
- 22:55on. And then in the fourth hour, we
- 22:57generally talk about some of the things that we saw or I bring up
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- 23:05So we have fun there as well. So courts are still kind of
- 23:09booting up here this morning. So what's going on is a little
- 23:13bit limited, but let's let's go to Molly Hennessy Greenwald.
- 23:18There we go, see what's going on there.
- 23:20Langston Nevels, Case number 2619 SD This is the date and
- 23:24time set for a arraignment this morning.
- 23:26May I please have appearances for the record?
- 23:29Thank Your Honor, Jonathan Foreman, Office of Public
- 23:30Defender here with Mr. Nevels. For the purposes of arraignment
- 23:32only today, we waive any in person appearances for his
- 23:35hearing this morning. Thank you.
- 23:37Mr. Nevels, can you please unmute, Sir?
- 23:41Hello. Hello, can you please confirm
- 23:43you can hear and see me and Mr. Foreman?
- 23:46Yes, I can hear and see you both.
- 23:48This is called an arraignment. We're here today so I can inform
- 23:52you of the charges against you, the maximum possible penalties,
- 23:55and all of your rights. Mr. Nobles, you're charged in
- 23:59this misdemeanor complaint. Currently, you're charged with
- 24:02count 1 of operating while intoxicated, and that's a
- 24:06misdemeanor. It's punishable by up to 93 days
- 24:08in jail and a minimum fine of $100, a maximum fine of $500.
- 24:15Additionally, there may be sanctions ordered by the
- 24:18Secretary State for your drivers license and then in the
- 24:21alternative to count 1, you're charged with the crime of a
- 24:24person operating as a minor with any BAC that is punishable by up
- 24:29to $250 and up to 360 hours of community service.
- 24:34Also some drivers license sanctions and Mr. Froman, just
- 24:40note please that that is the complaint I've that I've read.
- 24:44I think that our online Jas system has a different charge is
- 24:49is referencing the alternative count to as a minor with the BAC
- 24:53second offense, but that's not how it's charged.
- 24:56I We discussed that and I appreciate that clarification,
- 24:59Judge. Thank you.
- 25:00So I want Mr. Novels to make sure that he understands these
- 25:03charges. And the possible penalty is, do
- 25:05you understand those Mr. Novels? Yes, I understand.
- 25:09And then you, I want you to know you have a right to an attorney
- 25:11to assist you. And if you can't afford an
- 25:13attorney, one will be provided for you at public expense.
- 25:16Mr. Foreman's here representing you from our public defender's
- 25:19office. Mr. Foreman.
- 25:20Is Mr. Nevels making an application to your office?
- 25:23He's an MSU student judge, so I've given him Ms. Legal Legal
- 25:28Services at MSU, their contact information.
- 25:31OK, Mr. Nevels, is that all correct?
- 25:34Yes. So we'll talk about that again,
- 25:36but it'll be important for you to contact MSU Legal Services
- 25:40immediately after our hearing and provide them the dates that
- 25:43I anticipate I'll give you shortly.
- 25:47Then I also want you to know, Mr. Novels, you have a right to
- 25:50a trial on these charges where you would have many rights
- 25:52available to you. Mr. Foreman, did you review the
- 25:54trial rights with your client? I did.
- 25:57And how are we proceeding today? Entering a not guilty plea,
- 26:00Judge. So we're setting this for a pre
- 26:01trial on February 25th at 11 AM. Final pre trial is April 13th at
- 26:099:30 and jury selection April 14th at 1:00.
- 26:16And Mr. Nevels, I have an address for you in Pontiac, MI.
- 26:20Is that a good address? Yes, ma'am.
- 26:23OK, that's the address. The court will continue to use
- 26:25Mr. Foreman on bond. Thank you, judge.
- 26:28Just so I'll note that my information is Mr. Nevels has no
- 26:30fire criminal offenses of any kind.
- 26:32He does have that permanent address in Pontiac, but he's
- 26:34also an MSU student, so he's local, but he prefers to get his
- 26:37mail out there. I just think it's more reliable
- 26:38that way. He's a junior studying finance,
- 26:41so he certainly has a lot going for him.
- 26:43I apologize about that, Judge. So we would request a personal
- 26:47recognizance bond given his ties to the community and given his
- 26:50lack of history. Mr. Nevels, did you hear what
- 26:53Mr. Foreman told me? Yes, ma'am.
- 26:56Is that all true and accurate? Yes, that is all true and
- 26:58accurate. That helps me make my bond
- 27:01decision where I need to consider 2 main factors.
- 27:04The 1st is, will the person always appear for their court
- 27:06dates? Mr. Nevels, you've appeared here
- 27:09today for your very first court date.
- 27:10Timely, attentively. You've confirmed a permanent
- 27:14address. You have ties to this community.
- 27:16As a student, you've assured me that you will be contacting
- 27:20legal services at MSU, so you'll have continued representation.
- 27:25All those things give me good reason to believe that you'll
- 27:27always appear for your court dates.
- 27:29Am I right about all that? Yes, ma'am.
- 27:31And then the other factor I need to think about is public safety.
- 27:34There are public safety concerns inherent in these allegations.
- 27:38Where the allegation is you operated a motor vehicle while
- 27:42intoxicated on the roads of this community.
- 27:44They are slightly elevated for you, Mr. Nevels, because of your
- 27:48age, you're charged as someone who not only was allegedly
- 27:53driving while intoxicated, but is illegal for them to even
- 27:58purchase or consume alcohol. So there are public safety
- 28:02concerns. They can be addressed through
- 28:04bond conditions and as long as we you're committed to complying
- 28:09with these bond conditions, I agree a personal bond is
- 28:11appropriate. So with that, Mister Nevels,
- 28:14your bond is $500 personal recognizance.
- 28:18You do not have to post any money bail.
- 28:20I'm releasing you because I trust you will come back to
- 28:23court and I trust you will comply with my bond conditions
- 28:27and they are as follows. You must appear as directed.
- 28:31You may not leave the State of Michigan without permission of
- 28:34the court. You must not commit any crime
- 28:37while I'm bond to this court. You must not purchase, possess,
- 28:41or consume alcohol, recreational marijuana, or any illegal
- 28:44controlled substance. You must submit to random drug
- 28:47testing that'll be overseen here at the court, and you must not
- 28:51provide a positive, diluted or adulterated sample to the Drug
- 28:56Testing Agency. Mr. Nevels, is there any reason
- 28:59why you can't appear in person to this court by 2:00 PM
- 29:03tomorrow? That would be Tuesday, January
- 29:0627th. No, I can appear by tomorrow.
- 29:09OK, so I'm ordering that you must appear.
- 29:11You can come anytime today and through tomorrow by two, you'll
- 29:15go to our probation department and you'll get referred for that
- 29:18random drug testing. OK.
- 29:21Thank you. And then you must not engage in
- 29:25any illegal driving. And Mr. Nevels, we have
- 29:29fingerprints taken. So I think that's all for me.
- 29:31Mr. Foreman, anything further from you?
- 29:34Thank you. Very good.
- 29:35So just a reminder, Mr. Nevels, important you contact MSU Legal
- 29:40Services immediately. They'll want to know the court
- 29:43dates I gave you and just so you're ready and they're
- 29:47prepared to proceed on those dates.
- 29:49OK. Can you please repeat those
- 29:51court dates? Yes, you ready.
- 29:54The 1st court date is called a Pretrial and that is set for
- 29:58February 25th at 11:00. OK.
- 30:02And the second is final pretrial April 13th, 9:30.
- 30:14And then the last date is a jury selection on April 14th at 1:00
- 30:20PM. Yeah, I got it.
- 30:26Very good. Thank you very much and good
- 30:28luck to Mr. Nevels. That's all for this case.
- 30:31Thank you. Good morning once again,
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- 31:06Let's go to Florida. Wade Mercer is just getting his
- 31:09day started. Let's see what's going on.
- 31:11Hi, fiance. Your fiance is in the courtroom.
- 31:14Mr. Hill, you're here because you're accused of violating the
- 31:16terms of your county probation in case 24-693CT.
- 31:20Mr. Hill, I'm going to appoint the public Center's office to
- 31:22represent you. I'm going to ask that you listen
- 31:23to Mr. McDaniel, your attorney. Your Honor, I've spoken to Mr.
- 31:28Hill at this point in time. Mr. Hill, I did go through the
- 31:31documents you had. There's still the issue that you
- 31:34didn't do your 50 hours of community service.
- 31:36Yeah, it's still the issue that you allegedly stopped reporting
- 31:40in. There is an offer.
- 31:42It's off for 30 days in the county jail.
- 31:44You'd have three days jail credit and you'd be eligible for
- 31:48any game time while you're out there.
- 31:49As I told. You earlier, so you should be
- 31:52getting out of there probably about 3 weeks if you want to
- 31:54resolve this this morning, do you want to go ahead and resolve
- 31:56it? Yes.
- 31:59Sir, Your Honor, I've talked to Mr. Hill and so we're going to
- 32:02go ahead and meet the values probation understanding.
- 32:04He says 30 days in the county jail have three days jail
- 32:06credit. I don't don't believe there's
- 32:07any remaining fines owed on the case in the case and that'll
- 32:11resolve this case today. Thank you.
- 32:13Mr. Mitchell's had agreeable with the state.
- 32:15It is Your Honor. Thank you.
- 32:16So Mr. Hill, I think the tentative offer was 60 days, but
- 32:18then your fiance brought in the documentation that you did do
- 32:21the DUI school and it was done about two weeks after the
- 32:24warrant. So that's why the offer changed,
- 32:25because you did do more than what we had originally thought.
- 32:29So, Mr. Hill, this this agreement will resolve it.
- 32:31Is this the play you would like to enter, Sir?
- 32:35Yes Sir, but I was also get other classes besides that
- 32:41class. Right.
- 32:43The other thing that well, the DUI school constitutes you takes
- 32:46care of your of your counseling requirements as long as you
- 32:48enroll within 60 days. I don't think you got that part
- 32:51done. But the the problem is that
- 32:52couple of problems, you quit reporting allegedly in the
- 32:55spring and then you were told in August to turn yourself in and
- 32:57here we are in January. So if you want to resolve it
- 33:00today, the offer is 30 days in jail.
- 33:01But you don't have to resolve that.
- 33:03You don't have to take that off. Or we can just, you know, you're
- 33:05not going to have a bond because the violation probation, but
- 33:08we'll see you at an upcoming court date if you wish.
- 33:10If you want to resolve it today, that's OK too.
- 33:14I like to resolve it today. OK, so do you want to admit that
- 33:17you violated probation knowing that I'm going to send you to
- 33:19that agreed upon term? So I had to see here for how
- 33:23many days? Well, you, you have three days
- 33:26credit. So you have 27 days left.
- 33:28Now under Florida law, you may get some game time for your good
- 33:32behavior. I cannot promise you that you
- 33:34can get up to 10 days a month at the jail, but that's that's
- 33:37that's between you and the jail and that's dependent upon your
- 33:40following the jail rules. So if you did that, you would be
- 33:44out in 17 or 18 days. But I can't promise you that you
- 33:47get out there and you have trouble.
- 33:48You don't follow the jail rules. You're going to do 27 days or
- 33:50closer to that. Any other questions?
- 33:57So is this is this admission you would like to enter in the
- 33:59agreement you would like to enter or not?
- 34:02No, I was trying to get out quicker than that, Sir.
- 34:06All right, no problem. So we'll see at your next court
- 34:08date. You've got no bond for the time
- 34:09being. Mr. McDaniel, what court date
- 34:11would you like them set for? Mr. Hill?
- 34:12You realize the next court date is about 30 days from now.
- 34:14Are you sure you don't want to resolve this?
- 34:18I would like to resolve it because I have a job and that's
- 34:22what I'm. Trying next jail Full date
- 34:23February 12th. Mr. Hill, we're not going to beg
- 34:26you to come in and report it to your probation officer.
- 34:28The note says the officer talked to you in August and said you
- 34:30need to come in and take care of this.
- 34:32Here it is January, so we'll see you the next court date that.
- 34:35'D be twenty 11th. Jail docket.
- 34:37We'll see you on the jail docket date.
- 34:39If Mr. McDaniel wants to bring you up earlier, then we'll do
- 34:42that. Mister McDaniel, if you talk to
- 34:43him next time you're out there, please, I'm going to see if your
- 34:46fiance has any questions. Ma'am, do you have any
- 34:47questions? That time's passed.
- 35:00We got a bunch of cases to deal with, and I've got to pick a
- 35:02jury this morning. So we'll see him in another
- 35:04court date. May see him tomorrow if he wants
- 35:05to. Mr. Hill, have a good day, Sir.
- 35:07Thank you for coming, ma'am. In this case is Jeffrey
- 35:11Pritchett. Mr. Pritchett Good morning.
- 35:17Mr. Pritchett, You're here because you've been accused of 1
- 35:19count of misdemeanor assault and one count of misdemeanor
- 35:22domestic violence battery. Mr. Pritchett, there is probable
- 35:24cause for the charges. The good news is that you have
- 35:27almost no criminal history. I think I saw a one marijuana
- 35:31charge over 20 years ago last year and that's all I saw.
- 35:35Mr. Pritchett, Is that the only criminal history you have, Sir?
- 35:38Yes, Sir, That was just for like 1 joint like a disorderly
- 35:41conduct or something a long time ago.
- 35:43OK. All right.
- 35:44I'm going to appoint the public defender's office to represent
- 35:46you, and I'm going to listen to the attorneys before I address
- 35:48your bond amount, Mr. or your release status.
- 35:51Mr. McDaniel, anything, or we just ask for a condition
- 35:53release. Thank you, Mr. Mitchell.
- 35:56No, no objection to a conditional release.
- 35:59Mr. Pritchett, do you have somewhere else you can live
- 36:01other than the residence where the alleged victim lives?
- 36:04Yes, Sir, I can. I have somewhere to go.
- 36:07Where? I have a friend that's in the RV
- 36:11park and we have relatives and things like that.
- 36:14The thing is it's I'm kind of new to all this and I think I
- 36:18have the flu. I've had a fever for the few few
- 36:20days. But.
- 36:22My biggest thing is my mother. That's where.
- 36:25We saw I didn't mean to laugh. I didn't mean to laugh, but when
- 36:28you said that, the Corporal Campbell just gradually slid off
- 36:32the screen so I couldn't see him.
- 36:33But go ahead, please start, start over so I can make sure I
- 36:36hear everything you're saying. Sir, I'm.
- 36:37Sorry my mouse really dry, but it's my mother's house and we
- 36:42all live there and I'm the. The.
- 36:44Bread owner, pretty much. So I mean, I would like to get
- 36:47counseling with her and work it out and, you know, figure it out
- 36:52and I've never. Had any?
- 36:53Let me explain. Whenever.
- 36:55Let me explain that you're going to be allowed, you're going to
- 36:57be ordered to have no contact with her for the time being.
- 37:00Now, if she wants contact and if you want contact, I would
- 37:03consider it probably with some counseling in in a place.
- 37:06Obviously I've got to give the state attorney's office a chance
- 37:08to have input also. But right now she's not here
- 37:11asking for contact. So when you leave the jail, you
- 37:14can have no contact. And what you can do is contact
- 37:17law enforcement about getting clothing and other bloggers you
- 37:19might need for work from the home, and law enforcement will
- 37:22escort you to do that. But you've got to live somewhere
- 37:24else. And when you get to the
- 37:25conditional release office, if I give you a conditional release,
- 37:27you've got to have an address. You got to be able.
- 37:30To give an address. So knowing all of that, you've
- 37:34got somewhere else to stay, at least for the time being,
- 37:36correct? Yes, Sir, all.
- 37:38Right, so I'm going to offer you the conditional release.
- 37:40I always give a bond option. Some people prefer the bond.
- 37:43Your bond will be $2500 cash or surety.
- 37:45I'm going to offer you a conditional release.
- 37:47Either way, you have a condition of no contact with the alleged
- 37:49victim. Do you have any questions, Mr.
- 37:51Pritchett? No, Sir.
- 37:54And you want you want the bond or the conditional release.
- 37:56The conditional release I don't have.
- 37:59We're broke, pretty much so. So, Mr. Pritchett, what's going
- 38:02to happen then, Sir, is they're going to let you use the phone
- 38:04to call transportation, a call for transportation or to try to
- 38:08make sure you got a place to live.
- 38:09Then they're going to bring you to the jail.
- 38:11Excuse me, from the jail to the courthouse.
- 38:14Mr. Ham will meet with you at the courthouse and then you will
- 38:17be. Once they go over everything
- 38:18with you, you'll be free to go. If you call friends or family,
- 38:21you can tell them that you need to be picked up here.
- 38:23You can be picked up at the courthouse in 30 to 45 minutes.
- 38:25You call whoever you wish other than the alleged victim.
- 38:29All right. OK.
- 38:34Thank you for clarifying. The.
- 38:36The bond is $2500 each. Thank you.
- 38:38Mr. Pritchett. You're also going to get a
- 38:40notice for your court date, and that's going to be March the 2nd
- 38:45at 9:00 AM Mr. Pritchett, we'll see you at the courthouse in a
- 38:48little while, OK. All right.
- 38:49Thank you. Yes, Sir.
- 38:52We're we're officially in March for both arraignment can.
- 38:54I put in, I don't want to put in.
- 38:57The next case is Justin Brewer. Thank you, Mr. Brewer.
- 39:07Good morning, Mr. Brewer. You're here for a hold out of
- 39:08Santa Rosa County. That's a violation of probation
- 39:11warrant. It has no bond on it.
- 39:12Mr. Brewer. What that means you're going to
- 39:14be held for that county, Sir. Today is a Monday, so that's
- 39:18very possible. They'll get you one day this
- 39:20week. Not always, but usually a week
- 39:23or less is about right for those counties that far away from us.
- 39:27So you're going to get, when you get picked up, you'll go to that
- 39:29county, you'll go to another first appearance in that county.
- 39:31Any questions, Mr. Brewer? No, Sir.
- 39:34Have a good day, Sir. Thank you, Tommy Thurman.
- 39:46Miss Thurman. Good morning.
- 39:46Miss Thurman. You're here because you've been
- 39:48accused of 1 count of obtaining property by false pretenses less
- 39:52than $20,000 in value. Mr. Thurman, there is probable
- 39:56cause in the complaint. I'm somewhat familiar with the
- 39:58criminal history. I took a look at it this
- 39:59morning. I think you're entitled to a
- 40:01bond. I'm going to listen to the
- 40:03attorneys and see if they have any additional information
- 40:04before I said that. Bond.
- 40:05Mr. McDaniel. Anything?
- 40:07Yeah, we just asked for Regent bond.
- 40:09What's your thoughts on cash bond?
- 40:12I Mr. Thurman, are you still just wanting a surety bond?
- 40:16Or do you want I don't know which bonds which I'm I?
- 40:19Explained it to you here over and over.
- 40:20You said you want the surety bond.
- 40:22Which one do you want? Surety bond or cash bond?
- 40:25Take the bonds one. Mr. Mitchell, Anything.
- 40:30Mr. Thurman, your bond's $5000 cash or surety.
- 40:32You have a condition. Have no contact with the alleged
- 40:35victim. You'll get to use the phone in
- 40:37just a few minutes, Sir, to try to post the bond.
- 40:39Any questions, Mr. Thurman? No, thank you.
- 40:42Have a good day, Sir. And.
- 40:45I think what may be the last case is Hunter, Polly, Judge
- 40:52next to Raymond Court date. Thank you.
- 40:55On who? On Mr. On who?
- 40:57On. Thurman Mark, that would be the
- 41:02March 3rd, March the 3rd. So we're in March on felonies
- 41:04now. March on both.
- 41:05March the 3rd at 8:30. Corporal 830.
- 41:08Thank you for reminding me, Mr. Polly.
- 41:10Good morning, Mr. Polly, you here first of all accused of
- 41:13violating the terms of your county probation in case 24417
- 41:16MEM. Mr. Polly, there is I'm going to
- 41:21appoint the public there's officer represent you.
- 41:22Mr. Polly. I'm going to ask that you listen
- 41:24to Mr. McDaniel, your attorney and we'll see if you have any
- 41:26questions in just a moment. Your honor, I'll spoke to Mr.
- 41:29Polly. He's going to get the violated
- 41:30probation understanding he's going to be since 90 days in the
- 41:32county jail who has a six days of jail credit and remaining
- 41:35fine to be hopefully he'll work offline in the Trustee Bay 370 O
- 41:42Mr. Mitchell's had agreeable with the states.
- 41:44It is your honor, you said six days credit, six days credit.
- 41:48That is agreeable. Thank you.
- 41:49And Mr. Polly, did you hear that agreement?
- 41:52Yes, Sir. Mr. Polly, do you have any
- 41:54questions about that agreement? I was wondering if we could
- 42:02possibly get it down to the last time my my first child is going
- 42:06to be born here on April 12th is our date.
- 42:10I just, I I would hate to miss that man.
- 42:12That's that's. You'll be out by April 12th.
- 42:17OK, well, let's see. I think you should be out by
- 42:22then the time. OK, let's do this.
- 42:25I feel like you're going to be out because there's a good
- 42:26chance you'll get some trustee time.
- 42:28If he's still there the last day of March, bring him back to
- 42:31first appearance so we can see where he stands.
- 42:33Please, Corporal. Yes, Sir.
- 42:34So I I don't want you to miss the birth of your child, but but
- 42:37you've got probation never came back it appears at all.
- 42:40So I think many days is is where I would be on the sentence.
- 42:43So knowing that I review the case.
- 42:45If you're still there on the last day of March, last working
- 42:48day of March. Knowing that does that is that
- 42:51that's what you want to do. Is this the mission you'd like
- 42:53to enter? Yes, Sir.
- 42:54I'm going to accept your admission that you violated
- 42:57terms and conditions of your probation.
- 42:58I'm going to revoke that probation, sentenced you to 90
- 43:00days in jail. The court costs and fines will
- 43:03be brought forward there, the amount of $370.
- 43:06And I, I told you on the record that I'll, if you're still there
- 43:09the end of March, I'll review your case.
- 43:11And if you've done everything you're supposed to do and you're
- 43:13still there, then I'm going to strongly consider letting you
- 43:16out for the upcoming birth of your child.
- 43:18Any other questions, Sir? No, Sir, Thank you.
- 43:22Yes, Sir. Have a good day.
- 43:24You too. Corporal.
- 43:34How? You feeling?
- 43:36Feeling alright? So you get you get feeling bad,
- 43:41let me know, OK? Yes, Sir, I sure will.
- 43:44That's funny how you slid everyone you mentioned having
- 43:46the flu. I think I've probably done the
- 43:47same thing. Yeah.
- 43:49I was standing right next to him.
- 43:50So, Corporal, anything else from the jail this morning?
- 43:54No, Sir. No, Sir.
- 43:55Mr. Mr. Mitchell, anything else in the state?
- 43:57Nothing else from the state. Mr. McDaniel, Mr. McDaniel from
- 44:01the defense. All right.
- 44:02So ladies and gentlemen, that concludes first appearances this
- 44:04morning. We do have a jury selection
- 44:05scheduled for 9:00 AM, so we should be putting that on Zoom
- 44:11and YouTube, but. Morning once again.
- 44:17Everybody. TCF live.
- 44:19It's Monday. Somehow you all made it here.
- 44:24Give me just a moment. There we go.
- 44:26Just getting the next court set up again.
- 44:28Everybody's just kind of coming online all at once here.
- 44:31Let's go to Texas and Judge W see how the Monday fashion show
- 44:36is starting out. And so here's the thing.
- 44:39Remember what I said when you were here before, right?
- 44:43Talk to them. They all charge different
- 44:45amounts of different payment plans.
- 44:46Bring me the names of who you've talked to.
- 44:48I said the same thing to everybody, so I know I said it
- 44:50to you. And what did I say That could
- 44:52happen if you didn't do what I told you to do, right?
- 44:56So you don't want to go to jail just because you don't do what I
- 44:59asked you to do, right? It's easy.
- 45:00Just talk to three lawyers. Then if you can't afford them,
- 45:03there's options, but you have to follow the rules first.
- 45:07It's just that simple. If you can't follow the rules,
- 45:09you're going to end up in jail. OK, so I'm going to reset your
- 45:12case to two weeks. You have two weeks now to talk
- 45:15to three attorneys or get one hired.
- 45:18If you don't do that, then your bond will be raised for not
- 45:21following that court order. Yes, ma'am.
- 45:31Just do what I'm asking you to do and then we'll talk about
- 45:34your options when you come back, okay?
- 45:36If you talk to them, you do what I say, you can't afford them.
- 45:40You can't come up with the money, Then there's some options
- 45:42for you to maybe get a court appointed attorney, but you're
- 45:44going to be required to follow those directions first.
- 45:47OK, All right. Step in front of the clerk,
- 45:59Justin Payne. Good morning.
- 46:19Good. You're just in pain.
- 46:21Mr. Payne. Were you able to get someone
- 46:22hired? OK.
- 46:25Did he? You've paid him and everything.
- 46:27Or you're going to. OK, so how much more do you need
- 46:42to pay him before? So have you hired him?
- 46:44Hired. I guess what I'm saying is
- 46:46sometimes they'll take a down payment for whatever is going to
- 46:49get them on your case. You've already done all of that.
- 46:54Y'all didn't hear from him? Yeah, I know.
- 47:04He's in Hardin County, he'll be around though.
- 47:07They're not starting back till. Tomorrow, OK, but he hasn't
- 47:14filed anything. But he's coming today.
- 47:17Do me a favor. Just have a seat here in the
- 47:19courtroom until Mr. Kemmler gets here.
- 47:21It sounds like he'll be here this morning.
- 47:22Don't leave until we tell you to.
- 47:23OK? Thank you.
- 47:28OK. Brittany Davis,
- 47:53good morning. You're Brittany Davis.
- 47:54So, Miss Davis, what happened with your drug patch?
- 47:58I had a death in my family. I went to Dallas, my daughter
- 48:02got sick and they fell off in the hospital.
- 48:05I have documentation to show that where I was when she was
- 48:08discharged. What does any of that have to do
- 48:11with your drug patch coming up? It fell off and I was in Dallas.
- 48:14I wasn't getting involved all the time.
- 48:16Have a seat in the jury box. We're going to get you tested
- 48:18this morning. Richard Volery.
- 48:42Good morning, Sir. You're Richard Volery.
- 48:43And Mr. Volery, this is your initial appearance in clause #25
- 48:47DCCR 1746. You're charged with aggravated
- 48:52assault with a deadly weapon from October 21st of 2025.
- 48:59And since you have made bond in your case, if you had an
- 49:03opportunity to try to hire a lawyer.
- 49:05All right, So what I'm going to do, Sir, is reset your case for
- 49:08about 30 days or so, give you some time to try to hire a
- 49:11lawyer. If you get a lawyer hired before
- 49:13the next court date, just bring the reset notice that you get
- 49:16today to that lawyer and they'll tell you what to do.
- 49:19If you're unable to hire someone before the next court date, then
- 49:22I'm ordering you to visit with at least three lawyers.
- 49:24They all charge different amounts.
- 49:25They have different payment plans.
- 49:27Bring me back the names of the lawyers you've talked to.
- 49:29So I know you're trying. And then we'll discuss your
- 49:31options. If you don't do that, then when
- 49:33you come back, you run the risk of me raising your bond for not
- 49:36following that court order, and you would have to go back to
- 49:38jail. You understand?
- 49:40All right. If you'll step in front of the
- 49:41clerk, she'll give you a reset notice.
- 49:44So while she pulls up the next contestant real quick because
- 49:47the previous one had talked about her drug patch falling
- 49:50off, I just looked it up. According to Farm Check, which
- 49:54is a maker of those drug patches, the falling off is a
- 49:59rare occurrence. Can be because of excessive
- 50:01sweat or soaking like in a hot tub can cause it improper
- 50:07application. But that tends to be found out
- 50:10very quickly or if it's being worn too long over 14 days.
- 50:16Just your cellular shedding can cause it to lose contact.
- 50:21But specifically it's designed to be tamper evidence so if you
- 50:24try to remove it yourself, they'll know it.
- 50:27So just some FYI's there for you.
- 50:34Mr. Ramirez, just have a seat for a few minutes and then we'll
- 50:36check on all of that, OK? I do.
- 50:42Remember something about that, Probably because of.
- 50:46Barbara, thank you for the $10. I very much appreciate that.
- 50:49I'm playing catch up. My brain is not on yet.
- 50:52I hope you had a great weekend. I did have a pretty good weekend
- 50:55overall. Barbara, we made a good dinner
- 50:57last night. Go back to the pre show, check
- 50:59it out. I got a couple of picks, but
- 51:01thank you so much again. Good morning here to Sean Bass
- 51:05and Mr. Bass, this is your initial appearance in each of
- 51:08your cases clause #25 DCCR 0832 and 0833.
- 51:13You're charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child from
- 51:19March 14th of 2023 and June 1st of 2024.
- 51:23Since you've made bond in your cases, have you had an
- 51:26opportunity to try to hire a lawyer?
- 51:28So what I'm going to do, Mr. Bass, is reset your case about
- 51:3230 days. Let's see.
- 51:35So this is 1. You were certified as a
- 51:45juvenile, is that correct? You got their family court stuff
- 51:52first, Juvenile. OK.
- 51:58All right, So I'm going to reset your case.
- 52:00How old are you now? 18?
- 52:02Are you working? Why not?
- 52:07Give. Me.
- 52:12Just a second. You're not still living at the
- 52:32same place with the complaining witness, right?
- 52:35Yeah. OK.
- 52:36So what I'm going to do this morning is appoint you an
- 52:39attorney, Mr. Bass. OK.
- 52:44So. You'll keep Mr. Rojas as your
- 52:46attorney. He's not here yet, but step in
- 52:49front of the clerk. She'll give you his information
- 52:51and when you need to contact him.
- 52:52OK. Brandel Griffin.
- 53:20Hello. Good morning.
- 53:21You're Brandel Griffin. And Mr. Griffin, did you talk to
- 53:24some attorneys or get someone hired?
- 53:26Talk to. Three more I.
- 53:27Couldn't get no one hired. All right, who'd you talk to,
- 53:29Mr. Judge Walker. Son Kyle.
- 53:36Sonny Hickers. And.
- 53:41OK, thank you for taking care of that.
- 53:43Mister Griffin. I'm going to have you fill out
- 53:45some paperwork this morning to see if you qualify for a court
- 53:48appointed lawyer. You need to make sure you fill
- 53:50it out accurately and completely because of the swear underoath.
- 53:52It's all true and correct. If you'll step to the clerk on
- 53:55the end, she'll give you that paperwork.
- 53:57Barbara, thank you for gifting 5 memberships.
- 54:00Very generous this morning. I surely appreciate that.
- 54:02I really do. By the way, that merch that
- 54:05you're looking for, I am still working on that.
- 54:08So hang tight. I'm getting closer.
- 54:10I just want it to be want it to be right you.
- 54:13Don't have anything on him? Call.
- 54:15Or anything. No response, John.
- 54:34Thank you. I'm gonna.
- 54:36We haven't heard from him. I think what I'm going to do
- 54:38just based on the weather is reset it one week instead of
- 54:40forfeiting the bond. So Kelvin Johnson will reset one
- 54:43week. Anthony McFarland, you're so
- 54:51sneaky. On Ramirez, Judge, that's not a
- 54:55case. That's going to be.
- 54:55Dismissed for doing the class. She did complete it.
- 54:58Our investigator spoke with her and really didn't think that
- 55:00it's a case that should be dismissed.
- 55:02OK. Sounds good.
- 55:03I'll take care of it. Thank you, Mr. Nichols.
- 55:19I'm going to do the same thing on that case and reset it one
- 55:21week. Mr. Ramirez.
- 55:25Come back up, Sir. So Mr. Ramirez, the
- 55:38investigator, has spoken with the complaining witness, and
- 55:41even though she's taken that class, they are not inclined to
- 55:44dismiss the case. So what that means is you're
- 55:47going to need to get you an attorney.
- 55:48So I'll reset your case for about 30 days to give you some
- 55:51time to get a lawyer hired. If you get someone hired before
- 55:54the next court date, bring the reset notice that you get to
- 55:57them. They'll tell you what to do if
- 55:59you're unable to hire someone before that next court date.
- 56:02And I'm ordering you to visit with at least three lawyers and
- 56:04then bring me their names. So I know you're trying and
- 56:07we'll discuss options. OK, Step in front of the clerk.
- 56:18So I've got my eyes on a bunch of different courtrooms across
- 56:21the country. It's kind of a mixed bag this
- 56:23morning. Some of it's probably weather
- 56:24related, a lot of people not showing up.
- 56:29Some courts that are usually running aren't quite going yet.
- 56:32I'm going to hang with Judge W here for just a little bit.
- 56:35Looks like they're queuing up some stuff in Judge Colada's
- 56:38court, so barring something else, will probably go there in
- 56:42the next few minutes. I know.
- 56:44Walker, 25. DCCR 1212.
- 56:52Just seen him call, just called me to make sure everything.
- 56:55'S OK if. I could just have a couple of
- 56:57minutes. Yeah.
- 56:58I think we're going to. Get OK.
- 57:00I'll hold. Let me go.
- 57:01Hey, would you call his name, please?
- 57:04David Biano. He's standing together.
- 57:08With. One of you I know.
- 57:12I got out of the jury box. I wasn't comfortable.
- 57:14I didn't want. To be drug tested.
- 57:18You never know what happens when you get sitting when you're
- 57:20sitting over there, you know? Yeah, I'll hold it while y'all
- 57:33checking it out. Thank you.
- 57:34Sure. See Mr. Morian, you have Carolyn
- 58:02Whitaker 2 cases. I saw him just walk in.
- 58:16The weather here was not is not near as bad as it wasn't jacked.
- 58:19No, it's not. And you could have called
- 58:21because, well. It could have been no the roads
- 58:22were great. They were fine.
- 58:24I know they. They're perfect.
- 58:25I travel one time anyway, so I mean.
- 58:28You're gonna. I'm all right.
- 58:30It would justify having that we. Could have had you pick up some
- 58:33others and bring them down on your way.
- 58:35I try to keep it toward. If I don't show up, something
- 58:39is. Something's bad.
- 58:40Something is bad wrong, you know.
- 58:42Did we lose them? Yeah, I was.
- 58:47I felt that. I texted Tom Kelly this morning.
- 58:49I asked to take said anything, he said.
- 58:53Yeah, we got our county Good. I'll hold it for just a minute.
- 58:58Listen, let me hold it. Mr. Macon, you've got Bethany
- 59:21Lozo Diaz. It's a sentencing.
- 59:44This is Mr. Hoffpowers sentencing.
- 59:47It's agreed if somebody could. Thank you, Mr. Nichols.
- 59:56All right, ma'am, you are Bethany Loza Diaz.
- 59:59And Miss Loza Diaz was previously in court, entered A
- 1:00:02plead guilty to driving while intoxicated with a child
- 1:00:04passenger. I've received that pre sentence
- 1:00:07report. Has everyone had an opportunity
- 1:00:09to review the report? Any additions or corrections?
- 1:00:14All right, Miss Loza Diaz, I'm going to find that you
- 1:00:16previously entered your plea of guilty freely and voluntarily
- 1:00:19find sufficient evidence to find you guilty and at this time find
- 1:00:22you guilty of the state jail felony offensive driving while
- 1:00:25intoxicated with a child passenger sentence you in
- 1:00:28accordance with your agreement to a term of two years in the
- 1:00:30state jail prison, but probate that for five years.
- 1:00:33You're ordered to pay a $1000 fine and to follow all of the
- 1:00:36rules and conditions of probation.
- 1:00:39If you do that, then for all practical purposes, your case
- 1:00:41here in court is over and you'll be able to serve that to your
- 1:00:44sentence while you're out on probation.
- 1:00:46The other side of that, though, is if you violate any condition
- 1:00:49of probation, you can be brought back into court and then you
- 1:00:52could go to the state jail prison for up to two or for that
- 1:00:55two years. You've already agreed to.
- 1:00:56Do you understand I'm handing you the trial court
- 1:00:59certification that shows that this was an agreement that I
- 1:01:02followed. And so you've waived your right
- 1:01:04to appeal. I also handed you a written
- 1:01:06admonishment regarding your ineligibility to possess a
- 1:01:09firearm or ammunition. Because of the judgment entered
- 1:01:12against you, you're ineligible under Texas law to possess a
- 1:01:15firearm or ammunition. Possession of a firearm or
- 1:01:18ammunition could lead to charges against you.
- 1:01:21Firearm is a legal term. And you should read the written
- 1:01:23admonishment I provide you to see what devices qualify as a
- 1:01:26firearm. If you have questions about the
- 1:01:28laws that make you ineligible to possess a firearm or ammunition,
- 1:01:32or about how long that lasts, you can talk with Mr. Macon.
- 1:01:35All right, ma'am, if you'll just have a seat here in the
- 1:01:37courtroom, probation, we'll call you up to her desk when she's
- 1:01:39ready to go over your paperwork. Good luck to you, Mr. Padgett.
- 1:01:44You have Catherine Castillo sentencing Castillo.
- 1:02:07Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:12Trinity Bell. She went out to check on.
- 1:02:17Her, she's normally. Here on this.
- 1:02:18How are you this? Morning, good.
- 1:02:19How are you? Oh, here we are.
- 1:02:22OK, she's not. One I worry about.
- 1:02:28So good morning, you're Catherine Castillo.
- 1:02:31So before we go further, when I was reviewing the pre sentence
- 1:02:35report, there's a new or another driving while intoxicated from
- 1:02:41July of 2025. Miss Werner contacted your
- 1:02:48office I think and they contacted the lab the IT was
- 1:02:54waiting on lab. They've pulled the case and the
- 1:02:58evidence is going to get tested in the next batch, whatever that
- 1:03:01means. And so I guess I'm wondering
- 1:03:04what the plan is on that case, if we need to wait for
- 1:03:07sentencing on this if it? May be.
- 1:03:10Better it obviously gives me some concern that she was on
- 1:03:13bond for one and. I'm not opposed to that.
- 1:03:16Got arrested for another and it also be another.
- 1:03:20Yeah, Yeah. So are, do you have the auto
- 1:03:25ignition interlock device on your vehicle?
- 1:03:28You don't. Are you driving?
- 1:03:30No. Do you have a car?
- 1:03:33Do you ever drive? OK, You cannot.
- 1:03:36A condition of your bond already is.
- 1:03:38If you're not aware, you should be.
- 1:03:41But if you're not, then you cannot drive any vehicle that
- 1:03:44does not have that auto ignition interlock device on it.
- 1:03:56I'm I feel like I think I want a SCRAM device.
- 1:04:06And that was. A suggestion that Mr. Smith.
- 1:04:08Had noted. On his PS.
- 1:04:09Yeah, I realized that both of those things are probably.
- 1:04:19She does work full time but the only thing I would be concerned
- 1:04:21about is the finances. But.
- 1:04:23I mean, it's it's a requirement to have the auto ignition in her
- 1:04:26law by law. But I want proof that you have
- 1:04:33that on your car this week. If you need to get it on your
- 1:04:37car, you need to send proof that you have it installed to Mr.
- 1:04:40Padgett. If I don't have proof of that by
- 1:04:42let's say Wednesday at 5:00, then there will be an order
- 1:04:46number one, that you don't Dr. #2 that you wear a SCRAM device.
- 1:04:49So I want, I want proof of that by Wednesday.
- 1:04:52OK, All right, I we're going to hold this because we contacted
- 1:04:56Miss Warner, contacted your office and the they contacted
- 1:05:02the lab and there's a new case and they're going to have it
- 1:05:05tested with the next batch. Yes, I mean it's in the PSI
- 1:05:10that's that's. The. 1st place I saw.
- 1:05:13It. Yeah, first I knew of it
- 1:05:14actually. Yeah.
- 1:05:15All right. Yeah, you're exclusive.
- 1:05:17Thank you, your honor. I appreciate.
- 1:05:18It. Thank you, ladies.
- 1:05:20Thank you. All right, friends, let's change
- 1:05:22it up. New contestant up with Judge
- 1:05:25Colada in Lake County, Ohio. Let's go there.
- 1:05:31Take your honor to please the court.
- 1:05:34We're before the court this morning.
- 1:05:35The matter of the State of Ohio. There's Martin Martinez, case
- 1:05:38number 25 CR 1102. The defendant is present in the
- 1:05:44courtroom with his attorney, Mr. John Fatika.
- 1:05:47We're before the court this morning for purposes of
- 1:05:49sentencing, the defendant having pleaded guilty and been found
- 1:05:53guilty of 1 count theft, a felony of the 5th degree.
- 1:05:57Parties are ready to go forward, John.
- 1:05:59Thank you, Mr. Fatigue, any reason not to go forward with
- 1:06:01sentencing? No, Your Honor.
- 1:06:03Anything you want to say on behalf of your client?
- 1:06:06I'd like to start by saying that Mister Martinez understands he
- 1:06:09used very poor judgment not to show for his PSR.
- 1:06:14He did turn himself in voluntarily, 34 years old.
- 1:06:18He's currently employed as a laborer for Desk Desk Deck
- 1:06:21Rescue. He has six children.
- 1:06:25The youngest of his children, both under 2 years of age, live
- 1:06:29with him and his fiance. He has 16 days of jail credit as
- 1:06:36of today. How many?
- 1:06:3816. 1616, I think you said 60. We've submitted a number of
- 1:06:44letters that demonstrate that he has support of family and
- 1:06:47friends. He's been active in a a, he's
- 1:06:51been a sponsor in the past. He relapsed here.
- 1:06:56And again, we understand that the court's options are limited,
- 1:06:59but we asked, we asked for a liens.
- 1:07:02Thank you. So, Martinez, you have the right
- 1:07:07to address the court before you're sentenced.
- 1:07:09You can say anything you want. Is there anything you want to
- 1:07:11say at this time? Yeah, I wanted to apologize to
- 1:07:15the victims. I know they're not here.
- 1:07:19Mike and Anna were were very kind to me in my life and
- 1:07:22provided me with an opportunity when I was in early recovery
- 1:07:26several years ago. I don't know where things went
- 1:07:29wrong and I don't have an excuse for what I did for them and I
- 1:07:34hope I can make restitution and and a personal amends to them.
- 1:07:39I'd also like to apologize to my family sitting over there.
- 1:07:43They've stood by my side for 20 years of addiction and even even
- 1:07:50with the good years, I know there's always that anxiety of
- 1:07:53the next relapse. And I just love you and thank
- 1:07:57you for always being there for me.
- 1:08:00I'd like to address to you, I'm sorry I didn't show up.
- 1:08:03I wasn't in my right mind and I just, I just want to put this
- 1:08:07behind me. That's it.
- 1:08:13Take anything else on behalf of the defense.
- 1:08:16No, thank you, Your Honor. For the state of Ohio.
- 1:08:21Thank you, Your Honor. You know Mr. and Missus Day are
- 1:08:24not here today, but I'll tell you, Mr. Day was here the last
- 1:08:28time we had a sentencing set in this matter.
- 1:08:30He sat in that hallway and he waited patiently to express to
- 1:08:34the court how the defendant's actions have heard he himself
- 1:08:38and his wife and his business. The amount of restitution here
- 1:08:45is $6006.07. 6006, yes. That's what we can show that
- 1:08:52doesn't include the times that the defendant is seen on video
- 1:08:55reaching his hand into the shared tip jar and taking cash.
- 1:08:59That also doesn't additional conduct that there the the days
- 1:09:05just simply didn't have time to scrutinize the the days were
- 1:09:10very active and and and helpful in submitting documentation of
- 1:09:15the theft to the Manor Police Department.
- 1:09:17Your Honor and Mr. Day put together a spreadsheet that
- 1:09:20delineated every single time that the defendant stole from
- 1:09:23them. There's 188 entries in those
- 1:09:28months of time and every single one, the Days looked at the
- 1:09:33video, documented it, wrote it down so that we could prove that
- 1:09:38the defendant stole this money, which was not an easy task.
- 1:09:42And, and that took a lot of effort on their part over and
- 1:09:46above being victimized by the theft.
- 1:09:49They had to do all that. Mrs. Day confided in me that
- 1:09:55they had a prior incident with the defendant where he was
- 1:09:59stealing from them, but they gave them another chance because
- 1:10:03they, the days know that the defendant has children to
- 1:10:06support and they did not want the defendant's children to
- 1:10:10suffer. And he just talked them into
- 1:10:14that. He's a decent guy and and then
- 1:10:16he should get another chance. Missus Day does not feels very
- 1:10:22strongly that that's not the case, that this is not a
- 1:10:24situation of a good guy with the drug problem.
- 1:10:28This is sustained criminal conduct that hurt them and is
- 1:10:32worthy of incarceration and punishment.
- 1:10:35The defendant does have credit for 16 days.
- 1:10:38Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:10:56This Court has considered the facts and circumstances of the
- 1:10:59offense involved in nature of the offense.
- 1:11:02I don't have a pre sentence report to consider because the
- 1:11:05defendant failed to appear the probation department for his
- 1:11:09interview and for the preparation of the pre sentence
- 1:11:12report, so one was not able to be completed.
- 1:11:17I did receive a victim impact statement and I've read and
- 1:11:19considered what the victims had to say.
- 1:11:22I received multiple letters in support of the defendant from
- 1:11:26family members, acquaintances, and I've read all of those and
- 1:11:29taking those into consideration, I've considered what's been said
- 1:11:33here today by the defendant himself, his lawyer, the
- 1:11:36prosecutor. All this is considered by the
- 1:11:40court and the purposes and principles of felony sentencing
- 1:11:44set forth in 2929. Eleven for the factors in 292912
- 1:11:50the Court finds in regards to factors that make the offense
- 1:11:54more or less serious, that the victims in this case
- 1:12:08not only suffered serious economic harm but also emotional
- 1:12:12harm. They entrusted the defendant and
- 1:12:17he violated that trust. The economic harm as alluded to
- 1:12:25by the prosecutors, not the only loss they had.
- 1:12:29They spent hours and hours putting stuff together in in in
- 1:12:34researching and investigating what happened here.
- 1:12:40The defendant's relationship with the victim facilitated the
- 1:12:42offence. Then they had a position to
- 1:13:00trust with the victims and the business there and use that
- 1:13:03position of trust to commit this crime.
- 1:13:08No factors indicate that the offense is less serious than
- 1:13:11normal. And this took place over 7 month
- 1:13:15period of time. This wasn't just a one time
- 1:13:17incident that occurred, which is what most offenses are.
- 1:13:20This was seven months of planning and scheming.
- 1:13:24Every time money is taken, it's it's, it's a crime itself and
- 1:13:29it's planned out and it's scheme and the cover up has to be
- 1:13:32involved. And it did this over and over
- 1:13:35and over 180 sometimes and minimum.
- 1:13:43And they trusted you, they helped you.
- 1:13:46They give you advances on your pay every, every paycheck almost
- 1:13:54because you talked about how you were in financial need and
- 1:13:56straight dire straits and you had kids to support.
- 1:14:00They went out of their way to help you and that's how you
- 1:14:03treated them. No factors again make this less
- 1:14:08serious. As for recidivism factors, the
- 1:14:14court notes that the defendant has a drug abuse problem.
- 1:14:17I don't know if it relates to the offence or not, but he
- 1:14:22hasn't done anything to address it. 20 years you've lettered 1
- 1:14:27letters mentioned 18 year of opioid addiction, he mentioned
- 1:14:3220, hasn't done anything to address it.
- 1:14:38He violated the conditions of his bond and using drugs while
- 1:14:41on bond and failing to appear, the Probation department failing
- 1:14:47to appear for a sentencing. Even though he turned himself
- 1:14:49later in that day, he wasn't here for a sentencing.
- 1:15:00Factors in the cambridism is less likely.
- 1:15:02The defendant doesn't have any criminal history.
- 1:15:05He's LED a law abiding life for a significant number of years.
- 1:15:08It in terms of any convictions, he's been using drugs for 20
- 1:15:12years and obviously that's against the law, but he hasn't
- 1:15:17been convicted of any offenses with that.
- 1:15:19The problem here is that you shouldn't show up for your pre
- 1:15:29sentence report and you were specifically advised when we
- 1:15:32were here last time. And in order to be considered
- 1:15:35for probation a pre sentence investigation had to be
- 1:15:38completed. In order for a pre sentence
- 1:15:41investigation to be completed, an interview with you had to
- 1:15:43take place. And you were specifically told
- 1:15:47if you fail to show up for that interview, probation cannot
- 1:15:50complete a report and the court doesn't even have the lawful
- 1:15:53authority to put you on probation.
- 1:15:55And you're also told that if you, the court will not continue
- 1:16:00the sentencing to some later day to get the report done because
- 1:16:03it wasn't completed initially due to your lack of cooperation.
- 1:16:10And you even mentioned about how you had used shortly before
- 1:16:13that. And I specifically even told you
- 1:16:16I watched the video before I came out here at the last
- 1:16:18hearing. I go, even if you're afraid of
- 1:16:21being arrested, you need to show up.
- 1:16:23It's important to show up no matter what.
- 1:16:25And you didn't show up, so I can't put you on probation and
- 1:16:30of the authority to do it. And you were specifically told
- 1:16:35that and you made that conscious decision not to do it, not to
- 1:16:42come in. And even in this case, you were
- 1:16:51supposed to show up in December 22nd.
- 1:16:54You didn't show up to probation. They contacted you and they
- 1:16:57spoke to you and they rescheduled it after the
- 1:17:00holiday. So if you would have gone on the
- 1:17:0222nd, you would have been arrested, wouldn't have been
- 1:17:03able to spend the holiday with your kids.
- 1:17:08But they let you then give you another week the December 29th.
- 1:17:14So here's there's a warrant out for you.
- 1:17:16You could have been home with your kids for the holiday and
- 1:17:18still got your pre sentence report done.
- 1:17:19Now they didn't ask me about that beforehand.
- 1:17:22I don't know if I would have allowed it, but they allowed it.
- 1:17:25You didn't show up on December 29th, so any talk about wanting
- 1:17:28to spend holidays with family and kids, there may be some
- 1:17:32something to that. But then December 29th rolls
- 1:17:35around after the holidays and you still don't show up.
- 1:17:39December 30th and January 1st and January 3rd, you don't show
- 1:17:42up. That's the decision you made.
- 1:17:51Knowing the consequences, that's a decision you made.
- 1:17:54So there's nothing I can do about it.
- 1:17:56I'm not going to continue the sentencing to a later day to get
- 1:17:58a report done because you chose not to.
- 1:18:00You don't want to report. It's the only thing I could
- 1:18:03assume. I've been doing this for 22
- 1:18:07years and that's I've done that all the time when people don't
- 1:18:10show up. There's no reason to have to
- 1:18:12create some exception in this particular case to evaluate the
- 1:18:18conditions of your bond prisons consistent with the purposes and
- 1:18:20principles of sentencing. And if you can't show up to the
- 1:18:24probation for a simple interview, I can't find you
- 1:18:27amenable to probation. I mean, that's one of the basic
- 1:18:29conditions is you have to report your probation officer.
- 1:18:31Second, whatever other conditions have to be followed,
- 1:18:34you can't use drugs, use drugs. When you turned yourself in,
- 1:18:38you're positive for cocaine, marijuana and fentanyl.
- 1:18:42So you're using this whole time you were out.
- 1:18:43I have. A drug problem?
- 1:18:49So violate the conditions of his bond prisons consistent with the
- 1:18:52purposes and principles of sentencing.
- 1:18:54Again, the defendant is not amenable to any available
- 1:18:56community control sanctions the offense here and it's not just a
- 1:19:02possession of drug charge. You stole from people over 7
- 1:19:06month period of time thousands of dollars.
- 1:19:10It deserves to be consequences. Therefore, as a sentence to this
- 1:19:15court, that account one defendants serve a term in
- 1:19:17prison of nine months. He has credit for 16 days he's
- 1:19:20already served. I need to advise you upon your
- 1:19:23release, you could be placed on post release control for up to
- 1:19:25two years. If you are on post release
- 1:19:28controlling and violating those conditions, the parole authority
- 1:19:30can return you to prison as punishment for violating their
- 1:19:33rules for another 4 1/2 months, the maximum being 15, excuse me,
- 1:19:3750% of the prison term I just imposed.
- 1:19:40Any additional prison term imposed for violating post
- 1:19:42release control is being imposed a part of the sentence at this
- 1:19:45time or disapproves the defendant's placement in program
- 1:19:48shock incarceration, intensive prison program or transfer to
- 1:19:51transitional control. And it's where the payout costs
- 1:19:55and it's further order to pay restitution to the victims.
- 1:19:57The amount of $6006.07 to be reduced by any amount that the
- 1:20:03victims may receive from insurance proceeds.
- 1:20:06So I know a claim was made and hadn't been resolved by the time
- 1:20:12the victim infant tax statement. At a minimum, they'll it'll be
- 1:20:15$1000 deductible, but I'm putting the full amount now
- 1:20:19again to be reduced by whatever amount is received from
- 1:20:21insurance proceeds. I think that covers everything.
- 1:20:25Mr. Ptero, anything else? For the record, no.
- 1:20:29Your Honor, thank. You, Mr. Pratika.
- 1:20:32No, thank you, Your Honor. All.
- 1:20:37Right. Good luck.
- 1:20:40OK friends, do me a favor in the chat.
- 1:20:41What was he sentenced to? I heard the restitution amount,
- 1:20:45but I was looking at something else, so if you could fill me in
- 1:20:47on that, I'd appreciate it because I might discuss this one
- 1:20:50in hour 4. Speaking of hour 4, if you're a
- 1:20:53channel member, you can join me in hour 4, but to get that link,
- 1:20:57you need to be in our Discord server.
- 1:21:00Lily, nine months. Thank you.
- 1:21:02You need to be in our Discord server.
- 1:21:04So Barbara, if you'd be so kind as to drop a link for that in
- 1:21:07the chat, if you're not already signed up on Discord, go there
- 1:21:10and make sure that your YouTube account is linked to your
- 1:21:14Discord account because that's what brings over the member
- 1:21:17benefits, the member access. Anywho, let's let's go back to
- 1:21:22Judge West. Good morning.
- 1:21:33All right. This is cause Numbers 24 DCCR
- 1:21:3621822183 Miss Whitaker's charged with aggravated sexual assault
- 1:21:41as well as injury to a child, elderly or disabled individual.
- 1:21:45And what's the announcement? It's already.
- 1:21:48It's already Your Honor I. Believe there were some
- 1:21:53discovery that now has been given.
- 1:21:55OK. On offer objective the last.
- 1:21:58Time we were ready. To and there hasn't been any
- 1:21:59change. It was a Kappa 40 with a
- 1:22:02dismissal in the other correct. Yes, you are.
- 1:22:04All right, So I will get it set on the next available trial
- 1:22:07docket and we'll get it taken care of.
- 1:22:09Stay in touch with Mr. Morgan. He'll let you know when you need
- 1:22:11to be back and ready for trial. Thank you.
- 1:22:13Thank you, I have the excuse. Yes Sir, Take care, be safe
- 1:22:16going back. So that's something you don't
- 1:22:20see every day, a woman charged with sexual assault.
- 1:22:25I mean, we see it. We see it a lot with teachers,
- 1:22:27with male students. But that doesn't appear to be
- 1:22:31the case here. Yeah.
- 1:22:35We'll have to keep an eye on that one, Ashley.
- 1:22:36I don't. I don't know if we got her name,
- 1:22:39but if we did, could you mark it down for me just so we can
- 1:22:42remember that? Because now I'm.
- 1:22:43I'm curious as to facts behind this one.
- 1:22:46Oh. My goodness.
- 1:22:49She says she's on the move on. The move?
- 1:22:52Things are about to be get real. Miss Mofino on Angel Coleman is
- 1:22:57a sentencing. Good morning, ma'am.
- 1:23:03Are you Angel Coleman and Miss Coleman?
- 1:23:14You were previously in court entered a plea of guilty to
- 1:23:16aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
- 1:23:19I've received that pre sentence report.
- 1:23:20Has everyone had an opportunity to review the report?
- 1:23:24Are there any additions or corrections?
- 1:23:28Hi, Miss Coleman, I'm going to find that you entered your plea
- 1:23:30of guilty freely and voluntarily find sufficient evidence to find
- 1:23:34you guilty. However, I'm going to follow the
- 1:23:36agreement that you made with the District Attorney and defer all
- 1:23:39proceedings and place you on probation for six years.
- 1:23:42You're ordered to pay the $500 fine and to follow all of the
- 1:23:45rules and conditions of probation.
- 1:23:47If you do that, this is an excellent opportunity because
- 1:23:50you do not have a felony conviction on your record.
- 1:23:53And at the end of the probation, if you're successful, the case
- 1:23:56will actually be dismissed. Will never be a convicted felon,
- 1:23:59which is huge, especially your age.
- 1:24:02The other side of that though is if you violate any condition of
- 1:24:04probation, you can be brought back into court, you could be
- 1:24:07found guilty. So you would be a convicted
- 1:24:09felon and I could sentence you to prison anywhere in the range
- 1:24:12of that punishment, which is between two years and up to 20
- 1:24:15years in prison. Do you understand for?
- 1:24:17The court also order that 9. $100 from restitution.
- 1:24:23Please, any objection to that? Also, as a condition of your
- 1:24:27probation, you will be ordered to pay the $900 in restitution.
- 1:24:33And I want to make sure that restitution at least is paid
- 1:24:36half upfront or with the fees and fines and not put off.
- 1:24:39All right, so I'm handing you the chalkwork certification that
- 1:24:43shows this was an agreement that I followed.
- 1:24:45And so you've waived your right to appeal.
- 1:24:47You just need to have a seat here in the courtroom.
- 1:24:49Probation will call you up when she's ready to go for your
- 1:24:51paperwork. Good luck to you, ma'am.
- 1:24:54Diamond Ollie, that's a sentencing something.
- 1:25:06'S. Familiar about this?
- 1:25:18No, I'm just something's familiar, I thought.
- 1:25:21Someone either sent me an e-mail or a message.
- 1:25:25I've been speaking with family court on this.
- 1:25:28Maybe that's what it is. Remember.
- 1:25:33Everything's been good, at least from the stateside.
- 1:25:36OK, through. It was him, Randy.
- 1:25:40Yes, OK. Like I knew there was something.
- 1:25:44Everything good? That's all I need.
- 1:25:47To do. That's what I got.
- 1:25:50Yes. Yes.
- 1:25:51All that sounds familiar. Perfect.
- 1:25:53All right, ma'am, here. Diamond Ollie and Miss Ollie was
- 1:25:56previously in court, entered a plea of guilty to injury to a
- 1:26:00child. I've received that pre sentence
- 1:26:01report. Has everyone had an opportunity
- 1:26:04to review the report? Are there any additions or
- 1:26:07corrections? All right, ma'am, I'm going to
- 1:26:10find that you entered your plea of guilty freely and voluntarily
- 1:26:13find sufficient evidence to find you guilty.
- 1:26:15However, I'm going to follow the agreement that you made with the
- 1:26:17District Attorney and defer all proceedings and place you on
- 1:26:20probation for five years. You're ordered to follow all of
- 1:26:24the rules and conditions of probation.
- 1:26:26And that includes what I'm going to order is that you can have
- 1:26:30contact with your child only as approved by CPS.
- 1:26:34So you have to follow all of their rules, the safety plan and
- 1:26:38all of that stuff. And so whatever they say is OK,
- 1:26:42I'm going to rely on them and you will be able to do it.
- 1:26:45If they say it's OK, then you'll be able to have contact.
- 1:26:48If they say no, then it's no. All right, you understand?
- 1:26:51All right. I'm going to hand you the trial
- 1:26:53court certification that shows this was an agreement that I
- 1:26:56followed. And so you've waived your right
- 1:26:57to appeal. You need to have a seat here in
- 1:26:59the courtroom. Probation will call you up to
- 1:27:01her desk when she's ready to go over your paperwork.
- 1:27:03Good luck to you, ma'am. No fine.
- 1:27:08No fine. Thank you, Mr. All Power.
- 1:27:12Kira Rogers. Your Honor, we're can we, we're.
- 1:27:15Asking for a little. Time on that I have an offer.
- 1:27:18For. Restitution.
- 1:27:20And she thinks she can be able to come up with it.
- 1:27:21OK. All right, so we'll just do a
- 1:27:23normal reset about 30 days. And so, Miss Rogers, if you can
- 1:27:26come up with that before the next court date, then we'll see
- 1:27:29what takes place. If not, stay in touch with Mr.
- 1:27:32Parker. So we'll see what gets worked
- 1:27:33out in your case. OK, you're free to go, ma'am.
- 1:27:37Caitlin Talmore sentencing, can you?
- 1:27:41Hear me. Hey there was some feelings hurt
- 1:27:50she. Came in and told her.
- 1:27:51She said go. She told me not to run.
- 1:28:00Kaitlyn Talmore. Hey, George was all warm last
- 1:28:05night. He's also not good up in that
- 1:28:06blanket I gave you. There he is.
- 1:28:10Socks, blanket, what else? Oh yes.
- 1:28:20Oh no. Good morning.
- 1:28:25Are you Caitlin Talmore And Miss Talmore was previously in court,
- 1:28:30entered a plea of guilty to evading arrest or detention with
- 1:28:32the use of a vehicle. I've received the pre sentence
- 1:28:35report because everyone had an opportunity to review that
- 1:28:37report. Are there any additions or
- 1:28:41corrections? And so you already are on
- 1:28:45probation for the DWI from that same date.
- 1:28:48OK All right. Then I'm going to find that you
- 1:28:50entered your plea of guilty freely and voluntarily find
- 1:28:53sufficient evidence to find you guilty.
- 1:28:55However, I'm going to follow the agreement that you made with the
- 1:28:57District Attorney and defer all proceedings and place you on
- 1:29:00probation for three years. You're ordered to pay a $500
- 1:29:03fine and to follow all of the rules and conditions of
- 1:29:06probation. If you do all of that, this is
- 1:29:08an excellent opportunity because you do not have a felony
- 1:29:11conviction on your record. And at the end of the probation,
- 1:29:14if you successfully completed the case is actually dismissed,
- 1:29:17you'll never be a convicted felon.
- 1:29:19The other side of that, though, is if you violate any condition
- 1:29:21of probation, you can be brought back into court, found guilty.
- 1:29:24So you would be a convicted felon and sent to prison for
- 1:29:27anywhere in that range of punishment, which is between two
- 1:29:29years and up to 10 years. Do you understand?
- 1:29:32All right, I'm handing you the trial court certification that
- 1:29:35shows that this was an agreement that I followed.
- 1:29:37And so you've waived your right to appeal.
- 1:29:40You just need to have a seat here in the courtroom.
- 1:29:41Probation will call you up to her desk when she's ready to go
- 1:29:43over your paperwork. Good luck to you, ma'am.
- 1:29:45Thank you, Mr. Parker. All right, let's stay in the
- 1:29:50building, but walk across the hall, say good morning to Judge
- 1:29:53Stevens. I've saved up a substantial
- 1:29:57amount of retainer for a digital forensics expert and I
- 1:30:03anticipate that he will be hired in the next two weeks such that
- 1:30:09what I would request is just in terms of being practical.
- 1:30:16I think, yeah, that would be a nice indeed thing. 90 days would
- 1:30:21we would be ready what you say. Let's by comparison to the rest
- 1:30:28of the trial docket judges relatively young, so I have no
- 1:30:31objections. It certainly is not 4 digits.
- 1:30:36Oh, but yes, Sir. It's not even a year.
- 1:30:39What does? It say are there any issues of
- 1:30:43conditions of release that need to be dealt with here?
- 1:30:46I think you've done that previously, Judge, but that's.
- 1:30:48What? You remember that one?
- 1:30:52I'm. Going to say no.
- 1:30:53Discharge. What does my concern is
- 1:30:56involving images of people who may be close to it.
- 1:31:00That's what I'm worried about. Dealing.
- 1:31:03With this is. Maybe it's not, I don't know,
- 1:31:07the only fear. That state has is his Internet
- 1:31:09uses because that that's the the driving factor on this on this
- 1:31:14case. I have no evidence that it
- 1:31:17involves anybody that is close to him in relationship in. 90
- 1:31:26days. He takes a long time to tell you
- 1:31:32the expert. I'm going to do.
- 1:31:34I'm going to reset it two months, OK, 8 weeks and then
- 1:31:38we'll have it'll be times that will be viewed.
- 1:31:41Yeah, I was going to. I would ask that so that I can
- 1:31:44determine. If I need to do the get a reset
- 1:31:47engine. Leon Davis, thank you.
- 1:31:53It's in custody. And again, where is have we
- 1:31:56heard from Mr. LeBlanc at all? Yep, OK.
- 1:32:03Hector Alvarez was reset, so let me pull all of these that are
- 1:32:11going to be sets. Here's your own Ned, and here is
- 1:32:39Hector della Wolfsop. And then that was Jose Delaosa.
- 1:32:48Hector Alvarez is this one. Who's ready on the plea?
- 1:32:56Yes. Mr. Garcia, Mr. OK, I guess one
- 1:33:17day I'll get. Used to this.
- 1:33:18Show I have a picture of his family again I.
- 1:33:21Don't know. I'll give you yours for the
- 1:33:24member. Gives me that.
- 1:33:27That much you're asking? If I want to reach ones, not
- 1:33:31yet. You know what they said he and I
- 1:33:33have talked about? Everything in depth.
- 1:33:37Well, we certainly were written in depth
- 1:33:55213700 not exactly names is now called Mr. are you Mr. Garcia?
- 1:34:00Please see that later first. Thank you, Press.
- 1:34:02Your right handful. Square on the truth.
- 1:34:04Left. You're talking about.
- 1:34:07OK, you get the right ink. There's a lot there.
- 1:34:12Can you get up one more time? There's a long way here in this
- 1:34:20case from not being able to speak English at all to very
- 1:34:26neatly written in English multi page document.
- 1:34:30And you are Jonathan Garcia. Yes.
- 1:34:35And you speak English, correct? Is that yes or no?
- 1:34:39Yes. OK.
- 1:34:40Yeah, she has to take everything we say.
- 1:34:45And this case is called 21-370, Jill.
- 1:34:49Yes, well, I thought she was talking about 21-37009.
- 1:34:56You were charged with the second degree felony of aggravated
- 1:35:00assault. You understand that?
- 1:35:02So you were here with your attorney, Mr. Eckert, and the
- 1:35:06State's attorney. Does the defendant waive a
- 1:35:09formal reading of this indictment and the arraignment?
- 1:35:12Can we proceed in some? We do judge anything.
- 1:35:14In summary, Mr. Garcia, this indictment, it was handed up a
- 1:35:19while back in April of 21. We're going on five, almost five
- 1:35:25years now and in summary, this states that honor about April
- 1:35:334th, 2021 in Jefferson County, Texas.
- 1:35:39You committed the second degree felony of aggravated assault,
- 1:35:43and it states that you intentionally and knowingly and
- 1:35:46recklessly caused bodily injury to another person with the use
- 1:35:51of a deadly weapon, namely A handgun, by shooting the
- 1:35:56complainant in the upper part of his body.
- 1:35:59Do you understand what you're charged with here?
- 1:36:01Yes. This is a second degree felony
- 1:36:17under state law, which means if convicted, you face a term of
- 1:36:21not more than 20 years or less than two years in prison.
- 1:36:24In addition, a fine may be assessed not to exceed $10,000.
- 1:36:29Do you understand the punishment range?
- 1:36:33Are you a United States citizen? You're not.
- 1:36:37Do you understand? If you are not a United States
- 1:36:40citizen, the plea of guilty may result in your deportation,
- 1:36:45exclusion from admission to the United States, or denial of
- 1:36:49naturalization under United States federal law.
- 1:36:53You understand the risks that you take.
- 1:36:59Agreement has been reached in your case where you would be
- 1:37:03pleading guilty, sentenced to six years in prison.
- 1:37:07You will be given credit for all time you have served in
- 1:37:10accordance with this case. Is that your understanding of
- 1:37:14the plan? If I follow this agreement such
- 1:37:18you have no right of appeal of your case.
- 1:37:21Do you understand? Today is January 26th. 26th.
- 1:37:40Yes, Sir. How do you plead, Sir, to this
- 1:37:47charge, the second degree felony of aggravated assault in this
- 1:37:50indictment, guilty or not guilty?
- 1:37:53Guilty. Are you pleading guilty
- 1:37:55voluntarily? And because you are guilty of
- 1:37:58what this states, I'm going to show you with your attorney what
- 1:38:03is marked as States Exhibit 1. Did you sign that document
- 1:38:07voluntarily, understand it, discuss it with your attorney or
- 1:38:11the contents? All true and correct.
- 1:38:14State's Exhibit 1 is tendered into evidence and without
- 1:38:17objection it is admitted. Among other things, this states
- 1:38:21that you are mentally competent to enter your guilty plea which
- 1:38:25is freely and voluntarily made. You know what?
- 1:38:28You've been charged with the indictments been read to you.
- 1:38:30You read it. You are guilty of the crime
- 1:38:32charged and any lesser included offenses.
- 1:38:35You are giving up your rights to a jury trial and the rights to
- 1:38:39the appearance, confrontation, cross examination of witnesses,
- 1:38:42totally satisfied with the representation provided by your
- 1:38:45lawyer in this case. All of this is true.
- 1:38:47It states so help you God correct states.
- 1:38:52Exhibit 1 is made of part of the record without objection.
- 1:38:54Without. Objection.
- 1:38:55It is so done. Presenters report is waived
- 1:38:58here. Yes, Sir.
- 1:39:00If nothing further to add, I am going to follow this agreement
- 1:39:03that has been reached here. Mr. Garcia, I'm going to find
- 1:39:07that you are mentally competent to enter your guilty plea.
- 1:39:13It is freely and voluntarily made you understand and
- 1:39:17appreciate the consequences of pleading guilty.
- 1:39:20There's sufficient evidence supporting your guilty plea from
- 1:39:22State's Exhibit 1 here admitted to find you guilty beyond a
- 1:39:26reasonable doubt. I now find you guilty beyond a
- 1:39:30reasonable doubt of the second degree felony of aggravated
- 1:39:33assault. I am following this agreement.
- 1:39:36You were hereby sentenced to confinement in the Institutional
- 1:39:39Division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice to serve a
- 1:39:43term of six years. Additionally, the Court is going
- 1:39:48to make a finding that based upon the allegations in the
- 1:39:52indictment for what the defendants pleaded guilty to, a
- 1:39:55deadly weapon, namely A handgun, was used in the Commission of
- 1:40:00this offense and it will be show so rendered as an affirmative
- 1:40:04finding on the judgment. Do you understand what has
- 1:40:08happened today, Sir? Yes, Sir.
- 1:40:10OK. Stand by just one minute, please
- 1:40:26let me just. Look at one one thing.
- 1:41:09You have a family. Where?
- 1:41:13Arlington. Texas.
- 1:41:14Argentina, Arlington. His his wife and children live
- 1:41:18in Arlington, TX. Arlington.
- 1:41:19She is, she is the United States minister.
- 1:41:32So why were you here in Beaumont, Jefferson County?
- 1:41:37Why weren't you living in Arlington when this happened?
- 1:41:41You were here at work, the working.
- 1:41:44What were you doing? What work do you do?
- 1:41:47Constitution. Construction he works concrete
- 1:41:50judge you know your family is very
- 1:42:11important. This is what I'm reading here,
- 1:42:14that you say this in your letter, and they are.
- 1:42:22It's why it's very important when you make decisions, you
- 1:42:27have to consider how that might affect the people you care for
- 1:42:33very much. Who wrote this letter?
- 1:42:41You've you've signed it. Does somebody help you write
- 1:42:44this? Yes.
- 1:42:46OK. I'm making a fun of somebody.
- 1:42:50OK, and they put it in English. Same letter just rewritten and
- 1:43:20all right. Is there any, how much credit
- 1:43:23does he have, Judge? He has about the year and three
- 1:43:27or four months, I believe. He was on bond.
- 1:43:30Initially and that bond eventually, yeah.
- 1:43:37Dallas County. Dallas County, well, you will be
- 1:43:41giving credit for all of that, but under because of the crime
- 1:43:46that was committed because a deadly weapon was used, you must
- 1:43:49have credit for 1/2 of the Senate.
- 1:43:51So 1/2 of six years is 3. You have to get credit for three
- 1:43:55years. You're toward, you're well
- 1:43:58toward that, but it may be a little while longer before you
- 1:44:02can be released. But I think they normally do
- 1:44:05that when it reaches that half point, that halfway at three
- 1:44:10years. Once you get that, they're going
- 1:44:11to get you released. OK, Take care of your family.
- 1:44:15Thank you, Judge. All right.
- 1:44:16Thank. You.
- 1:44:22I have Anthony Kennedy, Mr. Reynolds.
- 1:44:26He needs to be. Fingerprinted.
- 1:44:32Kennedy well, that one was an old 1.
- 1:44:50Thank you. What is he?
- 1:44:52There's three cases. What's he going to be pleading
- 1:44:54to? The sexual assault.
- 1:44:57And the and decency by exposure and then another a third case
- 1:45:03indecency with a child will be dismissed.
- 1:45:06That's correct. Yes.
- 1:45:08Does she He needs to go in front of her.
- 1:45:10OK. Thank you.
- 1:45:27And. You are Andrew?
- 1:45:35Yes, Sir. Three cases are are called
- 1:46:00176917701771 and a numerical sequence. 1769 alleges that you
- 1:46:08committed the second degree felony of sexual assault of a
- 1:46:11child. 1770 alleges you committed indecency with a child
- 1:46:20and that is a second degree felony and then a third degree
- 1:46:23felony is alleged in 17701771 and that is indecency with a
- 1:46:32child in that case and that is third degree felony.
- 1:46:36So in the two second degree felonies you were looking at no
- 1:46:39less than two nor more than 20 years confinement in prison and
- 1:46:42in the third degree felony that is up to 10 years in prison.
- 1:46:45So a total of 50 years in prison is at issue here in these three
- 1:46:53cases. So it's my understanding you
- 1:46:57were going to be pleading guilty to 1769 and 1771 sexual assault
- 1:47:04of the child, second degree felony and the third degree
- 1:47:06felony of indecency with the child.
- 1:47:08Judge on the third degree. Felony I.
- 1:47:10Think I checked the wrong box. That's OK, we can fix it.
- 1:47:14And then in 1770, that second degree felony of indecency with
- 1:47:18the child will be dismissed as part of this agreement.
- 1:47:21Was that your understanding of the master plan, Sir?
- 1:47:24Yes, you should. So you were here with your
- 1:47:31attorney and the state's attorney, Mr. Williams.
- 1:47:36Does the defendant wave formal readings of these indictments?
- 1:47:39And Aramis, can we proceed in Sunday?
- 1:47:41He does. And you, Major?
- 1:47:42OK. And 176923CR1769 in summary, so
- 1:47:53this honor about December 22nd, 2022 in Jefferson County, Texas,
- 1:47:57you committed the second degree felony of sexual assault of a
- 1:48:00child. You understand what you're
- 1:48:02charged with in this case. Yes.
- 1:48:10If convicted, you were looking at no less than two nor more
- 1:48:12than 20 years confinement in prison and a fine up to $10,000
- 1:48:16can be assessed. Do you understand the
- 1:48:18punishment? The punishment range applicable?
- 1:48:21Yes Sir, an agreement has been reached in your case where you
- 1:48:30would be pleading guilty, sentenced to 10 years
- 1:48:33imprisonment. This would run concurrently with
- 1:48:38the 23 CR 1771 case and 23 CR 1770 will be dismissed.
- 1:48:48As far as agreement, is that your understanding of the
- 1:48:51agreement? Yes, Sir.
- 1:48:53If I follow all of this, you have no right, no right of
- 1:48:56appeal of your cases. Do you understand?
- 1:48:59Yes, Sir. How do you plead in this case,
- 1:49:02Sir? Guilty or not guilty?
- 1:49:03Guilty. Are you pleading guilty
- 1:49:05voluntarily? That is on your own free will
- 1:49:10and because you are guilty. Yes, Sir.
- 1:49:13I'm going to ask for secure something happened on that.
- 1:49:16I don't know what happened there.
- 1:49:19Well, just we signed. Thank you.
- 1:50:02Somebody leave these pads out in the cold last night, but they're
- 1:50:07really acting funny. There's a delay I've noticed.
- 1:50:14In 1771, Sir, this indictment is a third degree felony and
- 1:50:19decency with a child by exposure and it was checked off as a
- 1:50:26second. I'm changing it to the third.
- 1:50:28Yes, Sir, which means you face a term of not more than 10 years
- 1:50:33or less than two years in prison.
- 1:50:35In addition, a fine may be assessed not to exceed $10,000.
- 1:50:38Do you understand that, Sir? Yes, Sir.
- 1:50:41The agreement in this case is you would be pleading guilty,
- 1:50:44sentenced to 10 years in prison to run concurrently with the
- 1:50:48previous case that you've pleaded guilty to, and then
- 1:50:52cause number 1770 will be dismissed as part of this
- 1:50:58agreement. We are getting new pads this
- 1:51:08year, right because. It's text Mary Thelma test one
- 1:51:10we were going. To did you told me that?
- 1:51:13I'll let you know. You told me that six months ago.
- 1:51:14I'm I'm. Getting an update asking the
- 1:51:18judge. Hasn't been a year yet.
- 1:51:20It's like Santa didn't show up for Christmas.
- 1:51:22I'm a little upset. Well, maybe.
- 1:51:24We didn't make the good list. Keep.
- 1:51:48If I follow this agreement, Sir, you have no right of appeal of
- 1:51:51your case, Do you understand? Yes, Sir.
- 1:51:53How do you plead on this case, Sir?
- 1:51:54Guilty or not guilty? Guilty.
- 1:51:56Are you pleading guilty voluntarily and because you are
- 1:51:59guilty? Yes, Sir.
- 1:52:00I'm going to show you what's marked as State's Exhibit one
- 1:52:03for each of these two cases you have pleaded guilty for.
- 1:52:06Did you sign those documents voluntarily?
- 1:52:08Understand them, Discuss them with your attorney.
- 1:52:10Are the contents all true and correct?
- 1:52:12Yes, Sir. State's Exhibit 1 tendered into
- 1:52:14evidence without objection. Admitted among other things.
- 1:52:17This states you in each case. Stacy did it.
- 1:52:20One states that you were mentally competent to enter your
- 1:52:23authority. Please freely and voluntarily
- 1:52:25made you know what you mean. Charles with the dumps and
- 1:52:27Reggie. You've read it.
- 1:52:29You were guilty of the crimes charged in any less included
- 1:52:31offenses. You can have your rights to a
- 1:52:41jury trial. The appearance of counsel.
- 1:53:09In each of these two cases, voluntarily, you are mentally
- 1:53:12competent to do so. You understand and appreciate
- 1:53:15the consequences of pleading guilty.
- 1:53:17There's sufficient evidence pulling a guilty plea from
- 1:53:20State's Exhibit 1, admitted here, to find you guilty beyond
- 1:53:23a reasonable doubt. I now find you guilty beyond a
- 1:53:26reasonable doubt of each of these two cases, Sir, and I'm
- 1:53:30following these agreements. You were hereby sentenced to
- 1:53:33confinement in the Institutional Division of the Texas Department
- 1:53:37of Criminal Justice to serve a term of 10 years on each of
- 1:53:40these cases, and the sentences shall run concurrently with each
- 1:53:45other. Do you understand what has
- 1:53:47occurred today, Sir? And 23 CR 1770, that case will
- 1:53:55be dismissed as part of this agreement.
- 1:53:57Do you understand anything else to add on this?
- 1:54:01He gets credit for. His of course he does.
- 1:54:03He gets credit for all the time he has served in a court of
- 1:54:06these cases. Also, do you understand there
- 1:54:11are certain requirements now that you must have?
- 1:54:14You have, You are now a sexual offender under the laws of the
- 1:54:22state of Texas, which means that you have to register as a sex
- 1:54:26offender because of each of these two cases that you have
- 1:54:30been found guilty of. Failing to register properly can
- 1:54:35result in additional felony charges being filed and you
- 1:54:40could be then sentenced to additional punishments for
- 1:54:45felony offenses. Please make sure that you
- 1:54:48understand the requirements and you follow them.
- 1:54:53Anything else to add? No, Sir.
- 1:54:55OK, thank you. That it's all.
- 1:54:57Good luck. I'm going to also, I think there
- 1:55:05is a it's a dismissal. I don't see it yet.
- 1:55:09Well, for first time in a long time, a crime against child in
- 1:55:16front of Judge Stevens didn't get a free dinner to the Sizzler
- 1:55:18that night. So there's that.
- 1:55:22Good morning once again, everybody.
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- 1:55:38Maybe something a little lighter.
- 1:55:39Maybe Michigan. Judge Middleton.
- 1:55:43Mr. Fletcher is in custody has been in custody for 38 days
- 1:55:48according to my calculation. Prosecuting Attorney Debra Davis
- 1:55:53is present as well as Assistant Abby Stoll.
- 1:55:58Let's start with the Fletcher case.
- 1:56:00It is set for 10:30. Mr. Fletcher was charged with
- 1:56:03aggravated assault for an incident that occurred at the
- 1:56:07odors on December 19th. He's been in custody.
- 1:56:12I. Think since that time the
- 1:56:18defendant is also on probation, Cass County and I believe was
- 1:56:24headed to the probation center. Mr. George, this is a case I
- 1:56:31think we needed some help from Pivotal or other mental health
- 1:56:34services. If I didn't.
- 1:56:36Call the case. It's 252602 people versus Travis
- 1:56:41Fletcher. Mr. George, what's the status
- 1:56:45here? Thank you, Rhonda.
- 1:56:47I've had the opportunity to see some correspondence from Miss
- 1:56:51Frank, who's our individual pivotal at the jail, as well as
- 1:56:55some conversations with my client.
- 1:56:57I think what's clear here is there is significant diagnosis,
- 1:57:01mental health concerns. With my client.
- 1:57:05Since he has been in custody, it's my understanding that he
- 1:57:08has been medicated. That was one that was consistent
- 1:57:22here. He did come in at the first pre
- 1:57:25trial and enter a plea of guilty to the charge of defense.
- 1:57:31It's my view from talking to him, your honor, that this was a
- 1:57:37cry for help for him. Doesn't justify what he did, but
- 1:57:44I think it gives the court some reason why he did what he did.
- 1:57:49But any time that anybody in the community is affected in this
- 1:57:52way, Mr. Fletcher understands that it's not acceptable.
- 1:57:57Going forward, I think there's going to have to be a
- 1:57:59significant mental health treatment component for Mr.
- 1:58:04Fletcher. Indicates that he wants to be
- 1:58:07committed to some type of facility so he has the ability
- 1:58:10to access those resources. I think he does have concerns
- 1:58:14that he's not in custody, whether he can access his
- 1:58:16medications that he needs. But I also at the same time
- 1:58:19understand that he is currently on MDOC probation out of Cass
- 1:58:23County. So I don't know if this court
- 1:58:26is, you know, looking to try to put him on any type of
- 1:58:28supervision here. We're significant supervision of
- 1:58:32broadcasting. All in all, your Honor,
- 1:58:35obviously this is a, it's not a good situation.
- 1:58:38The facts are terrible, but I would just ask the court to
- 1:58:41consider some of the mental health concerns that my client
- 1:58:44has and we're making a termination on what's most
- 1:58:46appropriate. Thank you.
- 1:58:47I believe I did make a referral to Miss Frank at the jail after
- 1:58:52this flea and I'm pleased to hear that she's she's doing a
- 1:59:01great job. I can't say enough good things
- 1:59:03about her. She follows up every time I ask
- 1:59:06her for help. But what's his status with Cass
- 1:59:09County? Is he still envisioned to be
- 1:59:11going to the probation center or do we know what the what their?
- 1:59:17Yeah, I asked. I asked him what his
- 1:59:20understanding of what Cass is going to do.
- 1:59:22And I don't know that that's clear based on some information
- 1:59:26and Miss Davis. If she has more.
- 1:59:28Accurate information can correct me, but I think that there was
- 1:59:31some type of issue about there was supposed to be a hold or
- 1:59:35something that was put on the place and not released.
- 1:59:37And I'm I'm assuming at this point that hold has been
- 1:59:40corrected. So I would imagine when this
- 1:59:43sentence is over, Cass is going to deal with it.
- 1:59:46I don't know specifically what they're going to do, but I think
- 1:59:49he's going to have to address that caster situation.
- 1:59:52Yeah, as I understand it, he was improperly released from the
- 1:59:58jail, went from the jail to Yoders where this happened.
- 2:00:05I'm not sure how what the status of all that is, but Miss Davis,
- 2:00:10you've got any more enlightenment for us on this
- 2:00:12maybe. A little bit, Your Honor.
- 2:00:16Unfortunately I don't have. A copy of.
- 2:00:18His PSI from Cass County to kind of reference, like what his
- 2:00:23guidelines were and what they're playing.
- 2:00:25What was the charge? So the charges were possession
- 2:00:28of methamphetamine and malicious destruction of fire and police
- 2:00:34property and Arno. I.
- 2:00:38Believe. Yes.
- 2:00:40So he was sentenced to confinement for 365.
- 2:00:44Days. And then a concurrent probation
- 2:00:46of 36 months. So his sentencing was in August
- 2:00:54of 25. The arrest by the Duaja Police
- 2:00:58Department was in February of 2025.
- 2:01:02So it appears that from my understanding of of all these
- 2:01:06different agencies and people involved that he completed his
- 2:01:10jail term at Cass but was then being.
- 2:01:14Placed at the. Twin County Probation Center.
- 2:01:17But when he got to the probation center, he said that he didn't.
- 2:01:21Think that this. Was part of the deal.
- 2:01:22He didn't want to be here, didn't want to do this.
- 2:01:24And there was some sort of commotion caused which then
- 2:01:29caused the jail to. The.
- 2:01:32Police to come and take him to the jail and they notified Cass
- 2:01:36County. It's my understanding that Cass
- 2:01:38County planned to come over and get him and take him back to
- 2:01:42Cass County, but there was some sort of confusion with paperwork
- 2:01:46being faxed over ahead of time and they released him before
- 2:01:51Cass County got there to pick him up.
- 2:01:53Which is what led to, yes, him walking through the village of
- 2:01:56Centerville looking for a ride in the Dollar General and not
- 2:02:01getting one and going to Yoders and doing what he did.
- 2:02:05I understand that mental health obviously is, is an issue.
- 2:02:11However, you know, these are things that he lied to the
- 2:02:15officer and said he tripped. And then we have very good video
- 2:02:19showing that he did not, in fact, trip this family mother
- 2:02:25and the two children are extremely traumatized over this.
- 2:02:30Thankfully there was a lot of people around standard, standard
- 2:02:34like went and chased him and. They had a good.
- 2:02:36Description of him and he was able to be picked up, but that
- 2:02:41doesn't cure the issues here. I'm hopeful.
- 2:02:45That Cass County has a straddle cell prison time waiting for him
- 2:02:50because he's not safe to be out in the community.
- 2:02:52Obviously, whether mental health issues or drug issues or a
- 2:02:57combination thereof, we have serious concerns and we would
- 2:03:01ask for the full year in jail for this.
- 2:03:05The victim would like to speak. She obviously is is shaken up
- 2:03:10over all of this. Other than that, we would.
- 2:03:15Ask the. Court, You want to hold him in
- 2:03:16our jail for a year before Cass County does their potential
- 2:03:20prison commitment. I don't necessarily.
- 2:03:22Want to hold him here for the year, but if he's sentenced then
- 2:03:25I can guarantee that he's going to be either here or MDOC.
- 2:03:32I don't know what Cass County might do on the PV.
- 2:03:36But. I mean, the problem is nobody
- 2:03:38asked. I was hoping maybe somebody
- 2:03:41would have talked to Cass County and said what's the plan here?
- 2:03:45But we don't know that. But certainly this is a scary
- 2:03:52circumstance. And I've been in contact with
- 2:03:55Cass County since the day this happened.
- 2:03:57So they are aware of what happened.
- 2:04:01They were aware of what the bond was set at in my concerns that
- 2:04:05if you were to somehow post bond to make sure that they had their
- 2:04:08hold in place. So I've not heard back.
- 2:04:11So do we believe the Cass County hold is in place?
- 2:04:15I'm not sure they haven't returned my.
- 2:04:27You're nodding your head. Do you have some knowledge about
- 2:04:29this? Hello, Deputy Studebaker.
- 2:04:35Judge Middleton calling from the bench.
- 2:04:37Does Cass County have a hold on Travis Devon Fletcher?
- 2:05:01What was the date of that? What was the data that the most
- 2:05:57recent detainer? All right.
- 2:06:22Thank you. Bye.
- 2:06:26He was supposed to have a detainer as of December 18th,
- 2:06:29but apparently something happened and he got rearrested
- 2:06:33and according to deputies Studebaker, Cass County placed a
- 2:06:36detainer on him, a probation detainer on December 19th.
- 2:06:41So there is currently detainer for Cass County.
- 2:06:44So if he were to postpone, he would go to Cass County.
- 2:06:50And your Honor? Part of the request for a
- 2:06:54significant amount of jail time is based on the unknown for Cass
- 2:06:58County. If he's he's used on all of his
- 2:07:01local time. So Cass County probation
- 2:07:03violation, if they go forward with it, it's either nothing and
- 2:07:08you continue on probation or you go to DOC.
- 2:07:12Those are the two options that appears and my concern is that
- 2:07:16if they choose to not send him to DOC and he's just released on
- 2:07:23probation, that that would be a disservice to our community.
- 2:07:27So also there is restitution that is being requested.
- 2:07:32However, it's a significant amount of medical bills and the
- 2:07:36victim does not have everything in order.
- 2:07:40All I saw was a $50. That was her vest.
- 2:07:44Vest. Yes.
- 2:07:45Is there more? Yes, she had to go to the
- 2:07:48hospital. She had CT scan.
- 2:07:51Her knee is injured from it. So there's a significant amount
- 2:07:57of medical that will be coming, obviously.
- 2:08:01We don't have that yet. No, she's working on getting the
- 2:08:05information from the hospital. She went to Three Rivers Health
- 2:08:09for those tests. Have they submitted a crime
- 2:08:12victims rights claim on her behalf?
- 2:08:17I don't know. Somebody.
- 2:08:18Busting out of a flooded. Backroom.
- 2:08:21Backroom they're. Probably working on it.
- 2:08:24I I don't know if they have or not.
- 2:08:27We can certainly explore that and obviously with the
- 2:08:32defendant's situation, getting restitution from him, it's going
- 2:08:36to be very difficult, but we would just ask that restitution
- 2:08:42be reserved, OK. On that, and your complainant
- 2:08:46wishes to speak, Miss Morrissey, would you come forward?
- 2:08:51Can. I have her sit at.
- 2:08:55Night. Yeah, that'd be fine.
- 2:09:07Good morning. Would you state your name for
- 2:09:08the record, please, Allison? Morrissey.
- 2:09:12Could you spell your last name? Morr, ISSEY All.
- 2:09:19Right. What would you like me to know?
- 2:09:26It was Thursday afternoon about 4:30 PM and my and my 2 girls
- 2:09:40and I we're heading to Sturgis. We're my oldest tumbling
- 2:09:44practice. They talked me into stopping for
- 2:09:50Donuts and yoders, which we've done a few times before.
- 2:09:56It's a few days before Christmas, so we say hello.
- 2:09:59Merry Christmas to the Salvation Army bell ringer outside.
- 2:10:04Upon entering the store, we see their 12 days of Christmas
- 2:10:07giveaway and I fill out a piece of paper to enter.
- 2:10:11The girls notice that they have an elf hidden somewhere in the
- 2:10:14store, so as we make our way over to the bakery side for
- 2:10:17Donuts, they're looking for the hidden elf.
- 2:10:22My girls decide on a donut to share and I grab a box to fill.
- 2:10:26I set the box down briefly and put on the provided plastic food
- 2:10:30gloves and get ready to open the first case to get their donut.
- 2:10:35As I'm putting on the glove, I am shoved into the glass donut
- 2:10:39case and see glass shatter in front of my face.
- 2:10:44For the time it. Takes to be body stamped into
- 2:10:46the case and for me to turn around.
- 2:10:49I see a man running for the door and yelling as he exits.
- 2:10:54I stand there in disbelief for a moment and see my bleeding hands
- 2:10:58cut from the glass and quickly ask my girls if they're OK.
- 2:11:03They are silent but managed to tell me they are physically OK.
- 2:11:08A male customer approaches me and asks if I know that guy and
- 2:11:12I say no I've never seen him before in my life.
- 2:11:16This kind man then takes off running after the man who just
- 2:11:19shoved me. Another customer, a female and
- 2:11:23two employees tend to my care when asked do you want me to
- 2:11:27call 911 And my response was yes please.
- 2:11:31The customer and other employee took me and my girls into a
- 2:11:34bathroom around the corner to help clean me up as we waited
- 2:11:37for the police and the EM TS. I'm in utter shock, confusion
- 2:11:43and just running on adrenaline. I must have asked my girls if
- 2:11:47they were sure they weren't hit about 50 times.
- 2:11:50My oldest only eight. I'm so incredibly proud of her.
- 2:12:05We've practiced making emergency calls before but thankfully
- 2:12:10never had to utilize it until this day.
- 2:12:15I instructed her to call daddy and my mom.
- 2:12:18She was so calm and really the necessary information to both.
- 2:12:24I fully believe her staying calm helped her younger sister, only
- 2:12:286, to also stay calm. This in turn helped me.
- 2:12:35I get my hands all cleaned and bandaged up and head back out to
- 2:12:40the main bakery area to wait for someone, anyone to arrive.
- 2:12:45At this point I've noticed that the vest I was wearing was
- 2:12:48ripped in a couple places from the impact and my knees are
- 2:12:53really starting to bother me. My mom arrives first and I have
- 2:12:59a brief moment of relief and cry as I hug her and she takes my
- 2:13:03babies away from the area. Then the police arrived and told
- 2:13:08me that the man had already been detained thanks to the
- 2:13:11description given by the employee through dispatch and
- 2:13:14the customer who went after him. He claims he tripped and I guess
- 2:13:19that's what he yelled as he ran away.
- 2:13:22The employee was phenomenal in making sure I'm OK in providing
- 2:13:25her witness statement and guiding officers to view the
- 2:13:28surveillance. EMT has arrived and brought me
- 2:13:31outside to check me out. It's starting to rain outside
- 2:13:36and I'm still running on adrenaline.
- 2:13:39Prior to them arriving I had my daughter take photos of my face
- 2:13:43and shoulder which are both red from impact.
- 2:13:46Police climb aboard the ambulance and do the same as
- 2:13:49well as photograph my hands and knees.
- 2:13:51I'm shaking as I sit in the ambulance when my husband
- 2:13:54finally arrives, having to leave in the middle of work.
- 2:13:59We decided to go to the hospital ourselves and not take up an
- 2:14:02ambulance for someone who might really need it.
- 2:14:05As I'm able to walk though with a lot of pain, I say goodbye to
- 2:14:10my mom and babies and off to the hospital I go.
- 2:14:13I had to sit for a couple hours in the waiting room before being
- 2:14:17taken back to a room. As I sat, my head began pounding
- 2:14:21and I had to ask for some pain medication.
- 2:14:23My knees are throbbing as I sit in a wheelchair and I asked for
- 2:14:27an ice pack. I received both and to just
- 2:14:31touch the ice gently to my knee was excruciating.
- 2:14:35Once back in a room, I've now had to explain my situation for
- 2:14:38the fifth time. My husband and I are sitting in
- 2:14:42our room and I'm just trying to deep breathe through the pain
- 2:14:44and the thoughts of what just unfolded hours ago.
- 2:14:49I'm sent back for a head CT due to the impact of my face and
- 2:14:56X-rays for both of my knees clear and I just need all these
- 2:15:00cuts and bruises to heal. Once I finally make it home to
- 2:15:04my babies now 11:30 PM and send my mom home, the toll on my
- 2:15:09children begins. The whole time I'm at the
- 2:15:13hospital my mom is with them and I keep asking if I'm OK.
- 2:15:17I chat with them briefly on the phone to help calm their nerves
- 2:15:20while also helping calm mine. What's home is where it really
- 2:15:24begins. The nightmares causing both my
- 2:15:28children to have to sleep with me at night.
- 2:15:32Me holding them tight as they tell me it was very scary.
- 2:15:38Emotional toll really doesn't hit me until the next morning.
- 2:15:42Being pregnant twice before. Never have I ever experienced so
- 2:15:46many emotions or the amount of crying.
- 2:15:50My youngest looks like she's seen a ghost and starts acting
- 2:15:53out her being fixated on something so much she's in full
- 2:15:57tantrum and hysterics if she doesn't get her way.
- 2:16:01When I finally get her calmed down and figured out it has
- 2:16:04nothing to do with what she's fixated on, she tells me I don't
- 2:16:08want it to happy happen again. I'd gone to the salon where my
- 2:16:13mom works to get a pedicure because I needed something
- 2:16:16normal and just for me. Knowing my mom was there was
- 2:16:20comforting if I didn't feel like I could be alone.
- 2:16:23We still don't. My husband takes the children to
- 2:16:26the store after dropping me off to get the groceries we were
- 2:16:29unable to get the night before. Once home, my youngest tells me
- 2:16:33she saw a man that looked like him and I don't want it to
- 2:16:36happen again knowing what she meant by this.
- 2:16:39She must have seen an African American man because that's who
- 2:16:42assaulted me. Being a Christian woman and a
- 2:16:46homeschooling mom, I've taught my children that God says
- 2:16:49there's only one race, the human race.
- 2:16:52I had to be mom and talk about how we know there are bad people
- 2:16:55in the world and some of those bad people want to hurt us.
- 2:16:58That's why we stay close to mommy when out.
- 2:17:01But there are also more good people within the world, like
- 2:17:04those that helped us that night. And while I can't say it'll
- 2:17:08never happen, we have to always choose to see the good in people
- 2:17:11because that's what God wants. Nightmares continue for my
- 2:17:15children and myself. Being so close to Christmas, I'm
- 2:17:18not now looking forward to it, but I have to for my children.
- 2:17:23While I'm currently scared to be alone, loud noises scared me.
- 2:17:27Someone coming up from behind me just to check on me makes me
- 2:17:29jump. I can't let this man control my
- 2:17:32life. I'm a mom.
- 2:17:34And for that reason I feel like I'm caring three times the
- 2:17:37weight of emotions and trauma as my kids were involved.
- 2:17:41Christmas with family afterwards is something I wasn't prepared.
- 2:17:44For. I feel as if you took my
- 2:17:46independence and sense of security away.
- 2:17:49I've sought guidance from a counselor to help me process the
- 2:17:52events and to help my children heal.
- 2:17:55The two things she suggested I do with my girls are one, ask
- 2:18:00them what was the worst thing that happened and two, picture a
- 2:18:03pie. It has 8 slices.
- 2:18:06We'll call this the responsibility pie.
- 2:18:08How many pieces of pie does each person or persons get?
- 2:18:12Who is to blame or responsible for what happened?
- 2:18:15Mom, you sister or the man? Both of my children answered the
- 2:18:20same for both when sitting down separately with myself and my
- 2:18:23husband. The glass breaking was the worst
- 2:18:26part because it hurt mommy and the man gets all 8 pieces of the
- 2:18:30pie. And my youngest clearly saw more
- 2:18:33than what she claims, that she gave me a complete description
- 2:18:36of what the man was wearing. My oldest remembers a black blur
- 2:18:40because it was so fast. Images they will never be able
- 2:18:43to get out of their heads. Just eight and six years old.
- 2:18:46While my face is finally healed, the knot on my bruised shoulder
- 2:18:50still remains, which after returning to the doctor for a
- 2:18:53checkup, shows the knot is actually a hematoma that's
- 2:18:57formed. My thigh and left knee bruising
- 2:19:00are fading, and while my right knee remains the worst from the
- 2:19:03impact, my hands still bear cuts and I'm reminded every day of
- 2:19:07the horrific trauma we experienced while just minding
- 2:19:09our business. The bruises and cuts will heal,
- 2:19:13but the scar that's been left in my heart is permanent.
- 2:19:17I'm a strong woman and will overcome this.
- 2:19:20I have to for my girls. I won't let him get away with
- 2:19:23stealing my Independence Oregon security.
- 2:19:26I'm labeled now as a victim, but I choose to be a survivor.
- 2:19:31I've told my girls that jail is grown up, time out for when
- 2:19:35grown-ups do something wrong and need to be punished.
- 2:19:38We're resting easier at night knowing he is where he should be
- 2:19:41and not harming anyone else. The youngest says I hope he's in
- 2:19:45time out for a long time and if it's his birthday that they
- 2:19:49don't give him any birthday cake or ice cream as punishment.
- 2:19:53I can't imagine letting someone out into our world who would go
- 2:19:56around and assault another human being, let alone a mother and
- 2:19:59her children for no apparent reason.
- 2:20:02I feel safer knowing he's locked up and hopefully remains there
- 2:20:05for a long time. As I sit here now, a month after
- 2:20:10the incident, I'm just now starting to feel comfortable
- 2:20:12with going out by myself or with my children again.
- 2:20:16Was finally able to allow a friend to give me a quick hug,
- 2:20:19something I have been guarded against.
- 2:20:22The idea of physical contact or being surrounded by others makes
- 2:20:26me nervous, even if those people are friends or family.
- 2:20:30My injuries are fading, though my right knee now requires
- 2:20:33physical therapy. I'm hoping that today allows me
- 2:20:38to feel as though I can breathe again and a weight has been
- 2:20:41lifted. Only time will tell.
- 2:20:44I'm a Christian woman, so therefore I don't wish ill will
- 2:20:47on anyone. However, I also believe in
- 2:20:50justice to the full extent of the law and pray that this man
- 2:20:54receives no leniency on the punishment for his crime and
- 2:20:57then he gets help as a result of his actions.
- 2:21:00Whatever his claim for his reasoning is no excuse for the
- 2:21:03torment and random act of violence he carried out.
- 2:21:07Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fletcher, you got
- 2:21:13to hear live and in person what this incident affected on this
- 2:21:19woman and her family. I did make a referral on the day
- 2:21:25of your plea, January 2nd to our local Pivotal.
- 2:21:33Have you been in contact with Lauren and working with the
- 2:21:37people at Pivotal here in Saint Joseph County?
- 2:21:39I've. Talked to her.
- 2:21:42That we didn't talk, all right, Apparently didn't see much.
- 2:21:47One of my notes, I said we need police report, victim input and
- 2:21:53input from the Cass County Department of Corrections.
- 2:21:57We got the first to what? We don't know what Cass County
- 2:22:01has in mind. Mr. Fletcher, this is your
- 2:22:05opportunity to say anything you want me to know This thing you
- 2:22:09want to say. I apologize.
- 2:22:12I know, I know. Apology, apologies, you know,
- 2:22:15sometimes aren't accepted. I just want to let you know that
- 2:22:18I'm still sorry. That's a start.
- 2:22:21I don't know. Exactly what happened there
- 2:22:24because of my health issues at the first opportunity with a
- 2:22:31lawyer, You did accept responsibility for the charges.
- 2:22:34Aggravated assault. Assault comes in different
- 2:22:38varieties from assault and battery up to first degree
- 2:22:41murder. Aggravated assault is a
- 2:22:44misdemeanor. It's punishable by up to a year
- 2:22:47in jail on a fine of up to $1000.
- 2:22:50That charge closely fits these facts.
- 2:22:54It's an injury that requires medical treatment, but it did
- 2:22:59not involve a weapon and did not involve intent to commit great
- 2:23:03bodily harm. So the charge fits what I
- 2:23:07understand the facts to be. And there's a dilemma here.
- 2:23:15I think I cancelled the defendant's bond at the time of
- 2:23:18his pleas. Been in jail now for 38 days.
- 2:23:23He's on probation on a felony charge in Cass County.
- 2:23:30They gave him 365 days in the county jail, which is the most
- 2:23:34you can do on a felony charge. Anything over 365 days requires
- 2:23:42a prison sentence. They also then put him on
- 2:23:46probation and apparently he was going to go like finish out his
- 2:23:51probation for a term at the Twin County Community Probation
- 2:23:55Center and Three Rivers. The Twin counties are cast, and
- 2:24:00Saint Joe County started that program jointly almost 50 years
- 2:24:05ago. We now take inmates from
- 2:24:09defendants from a number of counties.
- 2:24:11But it's a cast Saint Joseph County thing.
- 2:24:15I don't know what happened. The ball got dropped.
- 2:24:20The defendant got released from the jail, which never should
- 2:24:24have happened. And now we're seeing the
- 2:24:26consequence to this lady and her family.
- 2:24:30It's a strange kind of offense. There's a mental health
- 2:24:34component to it, to be sure. I don't think it no insanity or
- 2:24:40diminished capacity defense has been raised.
- 2:24:43The defendant simply accepted responsibility.
- 2:24:47So all that Cass County has left is either, as Miss Davis says,
- 2:24:52to kick him off probation. Florida Institute of Prison
- 2:24:56sentence. Hopefully if someone commits A
- 2:24:59felony aggravated assault while they're on a felony probation,
- 2:25:05that should be basis for a probation violation.
- 2:25:10But nobody ever asked. My fear is if I grant 365 days,
- 2:25:16they may just call it good and discharge them from probation.
- 2:25:23At that point there'd be no additional supervision.
- 2:25:28But we don't know. If I gave him time served, they
- 2:25:43would be compelled to do something.
- 2:25:53I would rather he was on some sort of continued supervision in
- 2:25:57Cass County, but we don't know the answer to that.
- 2:26:00My fear, as I said, if I simply grant 365 days in jail, he'll do
- 2:26:05300 days -38 and then he'll be out without any supervision.
- 2:26:13And there's no sense for me to put him on probation because I
- 2:26:15would have used up every available day of jail.
- 2:26:20So I'm going to try this. I'm going to do 100 days jail
- 2:26:26credit 38 leaving 62 days to serve.
- 2:26:31May be released to Cass County Department of Corrections.
- 2:26:42I'll put to Cass County on detainer.
- 2:26:52Fine is 0. I referred him for mental health
- 2:26:56services and apparently he didn't avail himself of it.
- 2:27:00Much $125.00 in costs which are required are two additional
- 2:27:07days, and I'll reserve as Miss Davis requested on restitution.
- 2:27:16Miss Carr. Mr. Fletcher, have you heard
- 2:27:19anything from your probation agent since you've been
- 2:27:22arrested? This gives them 62 days to do
- 2:27:36something. As I said, even in a World War
- 2:27:39and an offense like this would warrant a probation violation.
- 2:27:49And what you point out is the randomness of the world we live
- 2:27:53in. You live in a community that we
- 2:27:56like and we consider it to be safe.
- 2:28:00The odors might be our favorite place anywhere.
- 2:28:04If you think of a safe place, that would be it.
- 2:28:08You're in there on a Thursday with your kids.
- 2:28:11Nothing unusual. Mistakes were made and a
- 2:28:15lightning bolt strikes and you get shoved through a plate glass
- 2:28:23cabinet. I've been there.
- 2:28:24I know exactly where this took place.
- 2:28:33I guess we're all subject to the vagaries of randomness.
- 2:28:40You didn't deserve this and I hope you can get some healing
- 2:28:44from this. He wasn't mad at you.
- 2:28:47This was not focused on you. You were in the wrong place at
- 2:28:52the wrong time and the only way we can avoid that is it never go
- 2:28:57anywhere or never do anything. You're going to continue to live
- 2:29:02your life and do things with your kids and have a family.
- 2:29:08You can't never go anywhere or never do anything.
- 2:29:12Mr. Fletcher, you need some significant mental health
- 2:29:16intervention. I tried to start some of them.
- 2:29:18You are interested, the probation center, if they hadn't
- 2:29:25accidentally let you out of jail, might have been a good
- 2:29:28start for some of that. At any rate, that's my sentence.
- 2:29:32100 days credit 38, leaving 62 days, $125.00 in fines and costs
- 2:29:39or two additional days and you may be released to Cass County
- 2:29:43on their detainer if they so elect.
- 2:29:47All right. So you can go with the court
- 2:29:48officer. Thank you.
- 2:29:51I did get a text during the hearing from Victor 5th and he's
- 2:29:55checking on. What I have?
- 2:29:56To like to. Do OK, we'll follow.
- 2:29:59Up. Thank you.
- 2:29:59All right. Thank you.
- 2:30:03So that's something we do not see in Judge Middleton's court
- 2:30:07every day, a serious crime, a victim impact that's quite that
- 2:30:13impactful, just not stuff we normally see there.
- 2:30:17So I just pulled this from the interwebs.
- 2:30:19This is a picture inside of Yoder's in Centerville.
- 2:30:24Looks like a cool store, to be honest.
- 2:30:25And all the time that I lived in Michigan, I've never been there.
- 2:30:29But next time I go up to Michigan, I think we'll take a
- 2:30:32look. Barbara asks, what did he get?
- 2:30:34He got 100 days to serve credit 38, and he's got something else
- 2:30:39going on in Cass County where this might have violated that
- 2:30:42probation. So Judge gave permission for
- 2:30:45Cass County to come and get him. And yeah, that's kind of where
- 2:30:52that stands. So that's what's going on there.
- 2:30:55That's what Yoder's looks like. If you're curious.
- 2:30:58I'm going to have more to say on this an hour for I'm sure.
- 2:31:03And yeah, All right, just shaking my head here a little
- 2:31:08bit. Let's go to go back to Judge
- 2:31:12Stevenson, Texas. 039 is now called the state of Texas versus
- 2:31:16Romero. Romeo Williams is that you Sir?
- 2:31:21Yes. Yeah.
- 2:31:21Speak out. So she gives.
- 2:31:22OK. Mr. Burbank is here representing
- 2:31:25you. The state's attorney is here.
- 2:31:26Does the definitive wave a formal reading of this
- 2:31:28indictment and arena. Can we proceed In summary he
- 2:31:31does in your mayor. In summary, this indictment
- 2:31:34alleges that honor about June 6th, 2023, in Jefferson County,
- 2:31:39Texas, you've committed the third degree felony of unlawful
- 2:31:42possession of a firearm by a felon.
- 2:31:44Do you understand what you're charged with here, Sir?
- 2:31:49It's a third degree felony, which means you face a term of
- 2:31:53not more than 10 years or less than two years in prison.
- 2:31:55In addition, a fine may be assessed not to exceed $10,000.
- 2:32:00Do you understand an agreement's been reached in your case where
- 2:32:05you would be pleading guilty? This is 5 listen.
- 2:32:23I thought, he said. To 10 years in length also us I
- 2:32:40guess regular probation is an option as well.
- 2:32:43You could be sentenced to no less than two nor more than five
- 2:32:45years confinement in prison and that could be suspended and you
- 2:32:48could be placed on regular probation.
- 2:32:51You understand your options here?
- 2:32:53If I follow this agreement, Sir, you have no right of appeal.
- 2:32:56Make sure you speak out so she can the support reporter can
- 2:32:59take. They have trouble on on nods and
- 2:33:05all right again. You.
- 2:33:07If I follow this, you have no right of appeal.
- 2:33:10How do you plead to discharge, Sir?
- 2:33:11Guilty or not guilty? Are you pleading guilty
- 2:33:14voluntarily? Yes, Sir.
- 2:33:16That is on your own free will. Yes, Sir.
- 2:33:19And because you are guilty, this is OK.
- 2:33:24I'm going to show you what's marked as State's exhibit one.
- 2:33:26Did you sign that document voluntarily, understand it,
- 2:33:29discuss it with your attorney or the contents?
- 2:33:31All true and correct. Yes, Sir.
- 2:33:33State's Exhibit 1 tendered into evidence without objection, no
- 2:33:37object. Among other things, this state,
- 2:33:39you are mentally confident to enter your guilty pleas freely
- 2:33:42and voluntarily made you know that you've been charged with
- 2:33:44the indictments from Richie. You've read it.
- 2:33:46You are guilty of the crime charge than any lesser included
- 2:33:49offenses. You were giving up your rights
- 2:33:51to a jury trial and the rights to the appearance,
- 2:33:53confrontation, cross examination of witnesses.
- 2:33:56Totally satisfied with the representation provided by your
- 2:33:58lawyer. All true so help you God.
- 2:34:00The state's exhibit 1 is part of the record for all purposes.
- 2:34:04Pre sentence report will be prepared and we will come back
- 2:34:11and another time and everybody will add whatever else you want
- 2:34:16to add to the record and then the court will make its
- 2:34:19decision. Please get a resetting from that
- 2:34:21Lady. Thank you.
- 2:34:23The probation office is going to be contacting you.
- 2:34:26Make sure you participate with them and give them all the
- 2:34:29information they need. Sir, thank you.
- 2:34:32See the probation. Thank you all.
- 2:34:57Right, well, they rack up the next contestant.
- 2:34:59Let's go across the hall, Judge West.
- 2:35:10Good morning. Good morning.
- 2:35:12You're dabbing, Kalina? Yes, ma'am.
- 2:35:14And this is 24 DCCR 2432. Mr. Kalina is charged with
- 2:35:22injury to a child, elderly or disabled individual.
- 2:35:25And what is the announcement? Your Honor, I followed the
- 2:35:28letter. Of representation to join this
- 2:35:31Co counsel for Mr. Kat late December, early January.
- 2:35:36I don't remember the exact date. I knew when I filed that letter
- 2:35:40that the last time, everybody. Was here that the?
- 2:35:42Court had advised. That would be the last reset in
- 2:35:46the. Last couple.
- 2:35:47Of weeks I've had. A number of.
- 2:35:49Conversations with this Filipino, I think we've made a
- 2:35:53little bit of progress in those conversations, and I think we're
- 2:35:56perhaps closer to a resolution than we were at the last
- 2:35:59setting. So I'm not asking the court to
- 2:36:03break its own rule about what the last reset was.
- 2:36:06No, and I don't have that. It was I don't have that it was
- 2:36:10a final one. I think it was just getting
- 2:36:12there. And so I will give you 1 normal
- 2:36:14reset, but y'all need to get get it figured out before then.
- 2:36:18It looks like Mr. Katz been on since July of last year.
- 2:36:22So that's kind of what I base it on.
- 2:36:23OK, if we're going to. Be able to.
- 2:36:29Reach. A resolution I.
- 2:36:31Think we're pretty close if not. It would be very easy.
- 2:36:34To. OK, Mr. Kalina, stay in touch
- 2:36:38with Mr. Kelly so you can visit with him before that next court
- 2:36:40date, and we'll see if we can get an announcement then.
- 2:36:42OK, you're free to go. And then you've got Ashley
- 2:36:46Sanders. Yeah.
- 2:37:19It's settler sentencing. No.
- 2:37:24She reset the whole thing and then reset for a sentencing.
- 2:37:27I don't know which one. Don't always reset for some.
- 2:37:31Things are confusing, so I don't.
- 2:37:35Know if you were? I'll just take.
- 2:37:36This to the police. So there's that's kind of.
- 2:37:38Done and the. Incentive is to do everything
- 2:37:41she's supposed to before she comes back for Senate.
- 2:37:46Good morning, are you Ashley Sanders?
- 2:37:48And Miss Sanders is charged with theft of service in cause #24
- 2:37:52DCCR 1650. And what is the announcement?
- 2:37:57I think our last setting was late October and the
- 2:38:02information. We.
- 2:38:03Provided to the court was similar to what we've been
- 2:38:06providing in previous settings. There's an audit coming and
- 2:38:08maybe one day we'll have it. My recollection is that one of
- 2:38:12the agents, the complaining witness, was present in court.
- 2:38:17He was and promised that within a week.
- 2:38:19Said we'd have it within a week. He did.
- 2:38:21It was delivered to my office. My version of it, I'm not sure
- 2:38:26it's the same as Miss Mofina's, was delivered to my office the
- 2:38:30first week of January. I don't remember what day.
- 2:38:33The 4th or the 5th? I was.
- 2:38:35I had a vacation later. In the court so.
- 2:38:36It was a long week. It was a long.
- 2:38:38Week. My natural inclination was to
- 2:38:42file a motion to exclude and ask the court for a hearing on that.
- 2:38:46The reason I didn't file that one was out of professional
- 2:38:49courtesy because I didn't want the appearance to be that.
- 2:38:52This was information that this, you know, had and was just
- 2:38:55holding on. So nobody would have thought
- 2:38:56that. I just didn't want the
- 2:38:57appearance to be that so. I mean, you've got, I mean,
- 2:39:01there's no reason to exclude it. It's just frustrating that it
- 2:39:05took so long for you to get it. It is and what?
- 2:39:07I'm So what do you need now? I'd.
- 2:39:10Like to ask for more time? I have, yeah.
- 2:39:12I'm not going to make you announce today if you just got
- 2:39:13it. That's none of this has been
- 2:39:15y'all's fault. It's very frustrating that that
- 2:39:19a lawyer stood up and told me one thing in court and y'all one
- 2:39:24thing in court, but that's not you or you.
- 2:39:26So how much time do you need now to go through it and be ready
- 2:39:31for an announcement? 60 days.
- 2:39:33It's a banker's box of documents.
- 2:39:35OK, same. OK, we'll reset it 60 days and
- 2:39:38get an announcement at that time.
- 2:39:39Thank you all. Thank you, Jerry.
- 2:39:47That's so frustrating and I had a feeling miss.
- 2:40:00All right, let's step across the hall again.
- 2:40:02Judge Stevens, new contestant. Yes, you know you need to speak
- 2:40:06out so she can hear you. Are you or Jamichael Phillips?
- 2:40:10Yes, Sir. And in 24 Cru 307 you were
- 2:40:15charged with a third degree felony of evading arrest or
- 2:40:17detention with a motor vehicle. And Mr. Turk is here
- 2:40:22representing you today. Correct, Sir.
- 2:40:26Doesn't the defendant wave a formal reading of this
- 2:40:28indictment in arraignment? Can we proceed?
- 2:40:30In summary. In summary, this indictment
- 2:40:32alleges that on or about January 12th, 2024, in Jefferson County,
- 2:40:36Texas, you committed this third degree felony of evading arrest
- 2:40:39of detention with a motor vehicle.
- 2:40:41You understand what you're charged with.
- 2:40:45There's a second paragraph that also alleges that on December
- 2:40:5017th, 2019, in this criminal District Court in cause
- 2:40:53#19-3096, you were finally convicted of the second degree
- 2:40:59felony of robbery. Is that true?
- 2:41:02One and two would constitute a second degree felony punishment
- 2:41:07if you were prosecuted for both of those and the jury finds
- 2:41:14those to be true beyond a reasonable doubt which means you
- 2:41:18would be facing no less than two more than 20 years can find it
- 2:41:23in prison and a fine up to $10,000 can be assess.
- 2:41:27Do you understand what does this say at the bottom here This what
- 2:41:33is that it's just it enhanced. This is it's the notation that
- 2:41:36it was you can erase it Judge I just OK.
- 2:41:38It just enhanced to 2nd degree right.
- 2:41:41OK that's it was just abbreviated.
- 2:41:45Yes Sir. Yeah, I could.
- 2:41:47It's look like sometimes I do. What kind of allowed me to do
- 2:41:55this? We all see at its whim.
- 2:42:27OK, what's our plan on this, Judge?
- 2:42:30My understanding is Mr. Phillips wishes to feel guilty, but he
- 2:42:35would like a jury to assess the punishment.
- 2:42:41OK, so there is no agreement. Correct.
- 2:42:44And he's ineligible for probation in front of the
- 2:42:46church, right? Yes, Judge.
- 2:42:52OK. That's the way to do it.
- 2:43:00So how do you plead to this, Sir?
- 2:43:02Guilty or not guilty? Are you pleading guilty
- 2:43:05voluntarily to this third degree felony of evading arrests or
- 2:43:08detention with a motor vehicle as alleged in paragraph 1 of
- 2:43:12this indictment? And are you pleading guilty
- 2:43:15because it is true as it is alleged?
- 2:43:17Yes, Sir, and paragraph 2, which alleges you were finally
- 2:43:21convicted of the second degree felony of robbery on December
- 2:43:2417th, 2019 in cause #19-30936 in this Criminal District Court of
- 2:43:31Jefferson County, Texas. Is that allegation true and
- 2:43:34correct as it is alleged? Yes, Sir.
- 2:43:37And are you pleading true and correct to that voluntarily and
- 2:43:41because it is true? Yes, Sir.
- 2:43:45All right. If found guilty, you do you
- 2:43:51understand you are facing a third degree felony based upon
- 2:43:56paragraph one of the indictment. And if paragraph 2 is proven
- 2:44:01true beyond a reasonable doubt, then that punishment range can
- 2:44:06be enhanced to a second degree felony as we've talked about
- 2:44:11here in the accordance with this plea where you are looking at up
- 2:44:17to 20 years in prison. All right, how do you plead
- 2:44:24again in this case? Are you guilty of paragraph one
- 2:44:29and true to paragraph 2 of this indictment which constitutes a
- 2:44:36third degree felony, enhanced punishment to 2nd degree?
- 2:44:42So you understand that you have
- 2:45:16given up your rights to a jury trial as to the guilt or
- 2:45:20innocence phase of this case by entering your guilty plea.
- 2:45:24You have reserved, though, your appeal, if you wish, as to what
- 2:45:32punishment may be assessed by the jury.
- 2:46:20It was marked the state's exhibit one.
- 2:46:24Did you sign that document voluntarily, understand it,
- 2:46:27discuss it with your attorney or the contents?
- 2:46:29All true and correct. State's Exhibit 1 is tendered
- 2:46:32into. Evidence without objection.
- 2:46:34It's admitted and this states that you are mentally confident
- 2:46:37to enter your guilty plea. It's freely and voluntarily made
- 2:46:41you know what you've been charged with the indictment.
- 2:46:42It's been read to you. You've read it.
- 2:46:44You were guilty of the crime charged and anti glass included
- 2:46:47offenses. You were giving up your rights
- 2:46:48to a jury trial as to the guilt for innocent face of this case
- 2:46:52and the right to the appearance confrontation cross examination
- 2:46:55of witnesses totally satisfied with the representation provided
- 2:46:57by your lawyer. All true.
- 2:46:58So healthy gun. It's the state's Exhibit 1
- 2:47:02tendered into evidence without objection.
- 2:47:06And again, how do you plead to paragraph 1 charging you with
- 2:47:10this third degree felony of evading arrest or detention,
- 2:47:14guilty or not guilty? And to paragraph 2, are you
- 2:47:20pleading true to that allegation of Commission of second degree
- 2:47:24felony robbery on December 17th, 2019 in this floor or you're
- 2:47:31entering your pleas voluntarily, knowingly, intelligently?
- 2:47:34And because all of that is true, you Sir, find that you
- 2:47:40understand and appreciate the consequences of pleading true.
- 2:47:45Anything else to add, Judge? Just real quick, I just want to
- 2:47:48make sure the records clear that Mister Phillips and I have
- 2:47:50discussed the the options between presenting sentencing to
- 2:47:54the court and presenting to the jury.
- 2:47:56And he is one of the key districts, distinctions being
- 2:47:59that the judge that the court can grant probation if the court
- 2:48:03found it warranted. Grant.
- 2:48:05Deferred or unadjudicated that they cannot.
- 2:48:08A jury cannot. And so and.
- 2:48:10Mr. As well as straight probation the court can yeah,
- 2:48:16where the jury cannot because. He has a final conviction, then
- 2:48:21he is ineligible for probation. In front of a jury.
- 2:48:24And I was just making sure we discussed that.
- 2:48:26Correct. OK.
- 2:48:27Yes, Sir. You understand all of that?
- 2:48:29And you knowing all of that, you insist on pleading guilty to the
- 2:48:34court and asking the jury to assess the punishment in this
- 2:48:39case. Yes, Sir.
- 2:48:40OK. Then I find that the defendant
- 2:48:45is pleading guilty. Violent Pharaoh, he is mentally
- 2:48:49competent to do so. He understands and appreciates
- 2:48:51the consequences of pleading guilty.
- 2:48:53There's sufficient evidence supporting your guilty plea from
- 2:48:56State's Exhibit 1, admitted here, to find you guilty beyond
- 2:48:59a reasonable doubt of this third degree felony of abating arrest
- 2:49:02or detention with a motor vehicle.
- 2:49:04I find you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of that offense
- 2:49:10and we will move forward to the punishment phase of this trial.
- 2:49:17When can we set that? Yes, that's what we would do.
- 2:49:25We need to move it to a quick document.
- 2:49:30To get it done does. Your I don't want to consider it
- 2:49:33for tomorrow. No, I got other things on this
- 2:49:37one this week. Yes, Sir, No, thank you.
- 2:49:44Yes, we'll figure it out and get back with y'all OK, but we will
- 2:49:47be done as soon as possible. Yes Sir.
- 2:49:50Thank you. So Austin put in the chat that
- 2:49:58he found it interesting that you could plead guilty to have a
- 2:50:01jury sentence You I have information on that for Texas.
- 2:50:05We'll. Cover that in our four, our 4 is
- 2:50:07going to be busy potentially. We've got that Judge Colada case
- 2:50:11from this morning, the Stevens one where the guy got 10 years
- 2:50:16for his crimes against children, the Middleton one that we just
- 2:50:20watched for sure. Plus I've got information on
- 2:50:23aggravated assault in in Michigan and how it's charged
- 2:50:28and then this Texas info. Plus I've got a few news stories
- 2:50:31we can go to as well. Again, channel members, you can
- 2:50:33join me an hour or four. There's a link in the Discord in
- 2:50:37the channel or the membership announcement section.
- 2:50:40So you know, if you have comments on any or all of this,
- 2:50:44please do join. It's your chance to your chance
- 2:50:47to speak out. In the meantime, though, we're
- 2:50:50not quite there yet. Back across the hallway, it's
- 2:50:53Jefferson County morning. All of a sudden I spoke with
- 2:50:56counsel about there's something I need to look into, but at
- 2:51:01least there may be something that's called wondering that may
- 2:51:04be special, but I haven't checked with the witness.
- 2:51:07All right, we'll just do a normal reset.
- 2:51:10I don't. It looks like there was a lot of
- 2:51:11resets just to get to this point.
- 2:51:14Before. You got appointed.
- 2:51:15So I know you haven't been on it very long, but the case is.
- 2:51:18Getting old, so I'll do a. Reset, make sure you get that
- 2:51:20taken care of and see if y'all can get something taken care of
- 2:51:23before the next court date possible.
- 2:51:25OK. Stay in touch with Mr. Lewis so
- 2:51:27that after he visits with Mr. Hoffpauer, you'll know what the
- 2:51:31options are in your case and we'll get an announcement at the
- 2:51:33next court date. All right, you're free to go.
- 2:51:35Thanks. Mr. Robas Chief Krishara
- 2:51:44Bennett. So sentencing.
- 2:51:46Krishara Bennett Sentencing. Bennett sentencing.
- 2:51:54It's all right. Still on your walls.
- 2:51:59Good morning. Are you Krishara Bennett and
- 2:52:02Miss Bennett was previously in. Court entered a plea of.
- 2:52:04Guilty to credit or debit card abuse.
- 2:52:07Against an elderly victim. I've received the pre sentence
- 2:52:11report has everyone had an opportunity to review that
- 2:52:13report Yeah. Are there any additions or
- 2:52:16corrections doctor? The state judge ordered that
- 2:52:20other than we would ask the court order the.
- 2:52:22Restitution also that. She.
- 2:52:26Yes, ma'am. All right.
- 2:52:27Miss Bennett, I'm going to. Find that you entered your plea
- 2:52:29of guilty freely and voluntarily.
- 2:52:31Find sufficient evidence to find you guilty.
- 2:52:33However, I'm going to follow the.
- 2:52:34Agreement that you made with the District Attorney and defer all
- 2:52:37proceedings and place you on probation for five years.
- 2:52:41You are ordered to pay restitution in the amount of
- 2:52:44$2256.92. You are ordered to.
- 2:52:48Forfeit your CNA. And home health care license and
- 2:52:51follow all of the other rules and conditions of probation.
- 2:52:54If you do that, this is an excellent opportunity because
- 2:52:57you do not have a felony conviction on your record.
- 2:53:00And if you successfully complete the probation, then at the end
- 2:53:02of the probation, the case is actually dismissed.
- 2:53:05You'll never have a felony conviction.
- 2:53:07The other side of that, however, is if you violate any condition
- 2:53:10of probation, you can be brought back into court.
- 2:53:12You could be found guilty, so you would become a convicted
- 2:53:14felon and you could be sentenced anywhere in the range of
- 2:53:17punishment, which is between two years and up to 10 years.
- 2:53:20Do you understand? I'm handing you the the trial
- 2:53:22court certification that shows this was an agreement that I
- 2:53:26followed and so you waived your right to appeal.
- 2:53:28You need to have a seat here in the courtroom.
- 2:53:30Probation will call you up to her desk when she's ready to go
- 2:53:32over your paperwork. Good luck to you.
- 2:53:37See Janesha Leonard sentencing. Oh sorry,
- 2:53:57this. Is how Janisha Leonard is OK
- 2:54:02shows on here Mr. Nichols, but I don't make that OK.
- 2:54:10OK, you're Janisha Leonard and. Miss Leonard entered pleas.
- 2:54:15Of well entered a plea of guilty and cause #25 DCCR 0297 and then
- 2:54:23pleas of true and cause numbers 19, 33340 and 236095.
- 2:54:32Those were all unagreed on probation for state jail
- 2:54:37felonies in each of those cases. And then the new case is a new
- 2:54:41state jail felony theft of property.
- 2:54:44I've received the pre sentence report and reviewed it.
- 2:54:46Has everyone had an opportunity to review it?
- 2:54:49We have. Are there any corrections or
- 2:54:56additions not from Mr. Coleman before I get started?
- 2:55:02I was and I just noted the. Date of the new.
- 2:55:07Offense compared to the date of indictment and wondered if you
- 2:55:13know why that took so long that that offense is dated.
- 2:55:18The offense date is 8. It's August of 23 and it was not
- 2:55:23indicted until sometime in 25. That's right, Judge I, I didn't
- 2:55:29snap to that before. I don't have an explanation for.
- 2:55:36That and so. I guess my.
- 2:55:38Question obviously on the face of this typically.
- 2:55:43I would be. Leaning.
- 2:55:44One way and you'll know which way.
- 2:55:46That is the length of time though from the date of that
- 2:55:50offense to the date of indictment.
- 2:55:52And that nothing on probation and doing looks like somewhat OK
- 2:56:00between that time makes me have some concerns.
- 2:56:04She now has a new baby. There's some positive things in
- 2:56:08the pre sentence report. About what she's been doing
- 2:56:16since then, and so it's here between.
- 2:56:20August of 23, which is that, you know, the last two years or so.
- 2:56:24Other than that new allegation from 2023, how has Miss Leonard
- 2:56:28been doing on probation? She's been making slow progress,
- 2:56:33but within the last few months she's been really stepping up
- 2:56:35with community service hours and paying towards her.
- 2:56:46I mean on no, On paper, there's no.
- 2:56:48Reason for me to be considering a?
- 2:56:56Another probation, except that. Time frame and the state, you
- 2:57:01know, Mr. Powell from Sutherlands would obviously like
- 2:57:03restitution. I don't know that that's going
- 2:57:06to happen, but Mr. Coleman, I'm going to go to you first this
- 2:57:15time, Judge. I don't have any strong feelings
- 2:57:18about it. I think the.
- 2:57:20Court makes some good points I. Certainly understand why the
- 2:57:22court would would entertain. Putting it on a probation.
- 2:57:27For this new case and. Continuing her on the probation
- 2:57:30issue. And if they're all states, this
- 2:57:35is a state. Jail.
- 2:57:48Are they all already five years? Are they?
- 2:57:52What's the length of the probations?
- 2:57:54I want to make sure they're all. Five year and case number
- 2:58:03hitting. 340 and. Are they both?
- 2:58:13Deferred. They're both straights.
- 2:58:18OK. Part of what I'd considered.
- 2:58:21Was if it was deferred. Revoking and then doing it.
- 2:58:26Straight. But that's not an option.
- 2:58:27But we'll, we'll start with. Another five year if I do that
- 2:58:30today. So I guess we have.
- 2:58:32Five more years. And have you talked to her about
- 2:58:37the restitution amount that was that?
- 2:58:39That was one of the things I was going to bring up the amount.
- 2:58:41Is she has a different amount, I would ask if they if you're
- 2:58:44going to put on. Probation and order restitution.
- 2:58:46That probation determine what it is.
- 2:58:48There's a substantial difference.
- 2:58:49You have to order it at sentencing.
- 2:58:53Do you? Do you have any records from?
- 2:58:58Sutherlands to back up that. Amount it's a.
- 2:59:02Very specific amount. It's just I've got why don't I
- 2:59:09do this then I would I'd like to do is reset.
- 2:59:12Sentencing. Just for a week or so, give you
- 2:59:14some time to go through. That I'll do.
- 2:59:15Two weeks give you some time to go through that with Miss
- 2:59:18Leonard. If we need to have a restitution
- 2:59:21hearing, if you'll let Mr. Coleman know that there's not an
- 2:59:24agreement or if y'all can't work out something after you look at
- 2:59:27it for some amount, either what they're requesting or if you see
- 2:59:30something that may not be in there, we'll have a hearing,
- 2:59:35short restitution hearing. So we'll reset 2 weeks for
- 2:59:38sentencing. All right, you're free to go,
- 2:59:47ma'am. Stay in touch with.
- 2:59:47Mr. Rojas, because? You all will need to get.
- 2:59:49Together before that next court date.
- 2:59:54OK, I'm getting. Just one or two more things
- 2:59:56ready before we go into overtime.
- 2:59:58So in the meantime, back across the hall, one last hearing with
- 3:00:01Judge Stevens. I'll do a backup on that one.
- 3:00:06I've got Adrian Williams before that.
- 3:00:08He stays ready on that, yeah. He's in jail.
- 3:00:12It's a. Harm left with us.
- 3:00:17Who? Adrian Williams?
- 3:00:19Yeah. And then?
- 3:00:22Three, just to be on the safe sides.
- 3:00:28On. Wyman, Clover, I'm ready on
- 3:00:31their own. You ready?
- 3:00:32Yeah, I can do. Cool.
- 3:00:33That's the one she's missing. Joe.
- 3:00:36Fighting witness on, I believe. Jeff.
- 3:00:38All right. And.
- 3:00:40Then Mr. Ham on. Kobe Rogers, she's.
- 3:00:49We're postponing that one, right?
- 3:00:51Yes. What about Jerick Holman's?
- 3:01:05Are y'all ready? Can you go on that one?
- 3:01:08Jerick Holman with Burbank in the legal possession of a farm
- 3:01:14bill judge, I'm. Ready for?
- 3:01:17Diocese. I'm also ready on Adrian
- 3:01:19Williams. Davis is first.
- 3:01:23Williams the second Jerry. Coleman will be third and then
- 3:01:27we need to get. Those the Arnold and Rogers and
- 3:01:37more, though, reset very quickly.
- 3:01:40Those are very serious. And then?
- 3:01:46Clover as well. OK, this is Jim Michael Paris.
- 3:01:54Hey, here's Phillips's. 2 cases.
- 3:02:21Alec I Harris 24 CR 1329 was called the state of Texas versus
- 3:02:29Malachi Harris that is you president with your attorney Mr.
- 3:02:32Adams and the. State's.
- 3:02:33Attorney, does the defendant wave a formal leaving of the
- 3:02:36indictment and a way that can we proceed in summary?
- 3:02:39Yes Sir. In summary, 24 CR 1. 329.
- 3:02:48Alleges. That on or about April 28th,
- 3:02:522024, in Jefferson County, Texas, you committed the first
- 3:02:55degree felony of aggravated robberies.
- 3:02:57Do you understand what you were charged with your serve?
- 3:02:59Yes, Sir. If convicted of a first degree
- 3:03:02felony, you face a term of life imprisonment or any term of not
- 3:03:07more than 99 years or less than five years in prison.
- 3:03:10In addition to fine may be assessed not to exceed in $1000.
- 3:03:13Do you understand an agreement has been reached in your face
- 3:03:17where you would be pleading guilty, sentenced to 8 years in
- 3:03:26prison, given credit for all time you have served, is not
- 3:03:30your understanding of the agreement?
- 3:03:31Yes Sir. If I follow this agreement, you
- 3:03:34have no right of appeal of your case, do you understand?
- 3:03:38Yes Sir. How do you plead to this Sir?
- 3:03:40Guilty or not guilty? Are you pleading guilty
- 3:03:43voluntarily, on your own free will and because you are
- 3:03:47guilted? I'll show you what's marked as
- 3:03:50State's exhibit once. Would you sign that document
- 3:03:53voluntarily? Understand it?
- 3:03:55Discuss it with your attorney? Are the contents true and
- 3:03:57correct? Yes.
- 3:03:59State's Exhibit 1 is tendered into evidence without direction
- 3:04:03is submitted. Among other things, this state,
- 3:04:05you are mentally competent to enter your guilty plea which is
- 3:04:08freely and voluntarily made. You know what you've been
- 3:04:11charged with the indictment read to you.
- 3:04:13You've read it. You were guilty of the crime
- 3:04:14charge than any lesser included offenses.
- 3:04:16You were giving up your rights to a jury trial and the rights
- 3:04:20of the appearance, confrontation, cross examination
- 3:04:22of witnesses. Totally satisfied with the
- 3:04:24representation provided by your lawyer.
- 3:04:26All true. So healthy God State's exhibit
- 3:04:29one part of the record for all purposes.
- 3:04:31Please send us a report his way to it.
- 3:04:33Yes, Sir. Anything to add by anybody?
- 3:04:34Nothing further from the state judge.
- 3:04:36OK, anything you would wish to? Add Mr. Harris, I'm going to
- 3:04:39follow this agreement and find there's nothing further you have
- 3:04:44pleaded. Guilty.
- 3:04:44Today. Voluntarily, you are mentally
- 3:04:47competent to do so. You understand and appreciate
- 3:04:49the consequences of pleading buildings.
- 3:04:51There's sufficient evidence supporting your guilty plea from
- 3:04:53states Exhibit 1 admitted here to find you guilty beyond a
- 3:04:57reasonable doubt. I now find you guilty beyond a
- 3:05:02reasonable doubt of this first degree felony of aggravated
- 3:05:05robberies. And I'm following this
- 3:05:15agreement. You are hereby sentence to
- 3:05:17confinement in the Institutional Division of the Texas Department
- 3:05:22of Criminal Justice to serve a term of eight years, and the
- 3:05:27judgment shall reflect affirmatively in a finding by
- 3:05:31the court that a deadly weapon was used or exhibited, namely a
- 3:05:35firearm, in the Commission of this offense.
- 3:05:37Do you understand what has happened to Jeff?
- 3:05:39Is there anything else to add? That is all.
- 3:05:42Thank you. We go.
- 3:06:23Thanks Okie dokie friends racking up some things here at
- 3:06:29the last moment, but let's go to TCF overtime.
- 3:06:33Hope you all had fun in court today.
- 3:06:34I know I did. Definitely some defendants that
- 3:06:39didn't. Have as much fun but.
- 3:06:40They earned it, didn't they? So again, if you want to join me
- 3:06:43here, there is a link in the in the discord under the member
- 3:06:49announcements. So if your channel member, you
- 3:06:51can join me. So again, we can talk about
- 3:06:53Judge Colada, Judge Stevens, Judge Middleton in the cases.
- 3:06:56They had lots. I have to say on a plus, I've
- 3:06:59got a couple of news stories if we have time for those as well.
- 3:07:04But let's start with Texas, because I believe it was Austin
- 3:07:08who expressed interest that the guy could plead guilty but then
- 3:07:13wait for the jury to sentence him, which.
- 3:07:17To be honest, isn't. Something that I'd never
- 3:07:19necessarily run across before either.
- 3:07:21But again, especially if you're new to the channel, I'm not like
- 3:07:24a, an attorney or anything. I'm just some guy who likes
- 3:07:27watching court. So I learned too.
- 3:07:29And that's the beauty of TCF. So we all learn things.
- 3:07:32But I pulled up information on Texas specifically.
- 3:07:34In Texas, the defendant can plead guilty to a jury, which
- 3:07:38then becomes responsible for assessing the punishment, a
- 3:07:41process often used when seeking a more lenient sentence than the
- 3:07:44judge might impose. Jury will hear evidence from
- 3:07:47both sides regarding the offense and character to determine the
- 3:07:51sentence. The procedure is well, the
- 3:07:54defendant pleads guilty, a jury is still impaneled to hear the
- 3:07:57evidence. The jury's role is to determine
- 3:08:00the sentence rather than the judge.
- 3:08:03Obviously a strategic move there and it's often used as an
- 3:08:08alternative to a plea bargain if the the defendant or his lawyer
- 3:08:13thinks that they can do better in front of a jury.
- 3:08:16Interestingly, the jury is not bound by anything that's been
- 3:08:19pre negotiated. They just simply have to
- 3:08:22sentence within the guidelines. Different from a bench trial
- 3:08:27obviously, in that the judge really has no role other than to
- 3:08:30accept the plea. So there you go.
- 3:08:38That's how that works in. In Texas?
- 3:08:40I had no idea. Now we learned something.
- 3:08:44Let's start with Middleton. And just to refresh you, this is
- 3:08:48the case we saw a little while ago where the woman was at
- 3:08:53Yoder's, which is this like Amish grocery store thing in
- 3:08:58Centerville. And again, all my years in
- 3:09:00Michigan, I'd never actually been to it, but I think I should
- 3:09:04go the next time I go to Michigan because I had a chance
- 3:09:08to kind of look at the place. It looks really cool.
- 3:09:13Can't believe I've never been there.
- 3:09:15That's OK though, but I have. Pulled up.
- 3:09:23Compliments of our friends at. Google Maps.
- 3:09:26This is the. Doughnut case that.
- 3:09:28That woman was. Shoved into and you can kind.
- 3:09:32Of see in standard Amish fashion, you know, this is like
- 3:09:39like super heavy construction. This thing actually, let me let
- 3:09:43me flip over to the screen share here if I can remove that one.
- 3:09:55There we go. Anyways, yeah, so I'm kind of
- 3:09:59flipping around a little bit. You can see this is, you know,
- 3:10:02standard Amish construction, big, heavy wood doors.
- 3:10:07This is no like wimpy thing that you would find in a Kroger or
- 3:10:10something. It's a serious case that she got
- 3:10:13shoved into. So I could see where she
- 3:10:19definitely got injured. And she's talking about like her
- 3:10:21knees being messed up too. But if you look at this counter
- 3:10:23down here. That counters kind of bit about
- 3:10:26knee height. For probably a lot of people, so
- 3:10:29that makes sense too. If she was shoved in there that
- 3:10:31her knees got messed up as well. So, and it's really messed up.
- 3:10:39But one of the things that we talked about or we were
- 3:10:44questioning while we were talking about this case was the
- 3:10:49idea that. The assault was a misdemeanor.
- 3:10:52So yeah. Dan is doing advertising maybe?
- 3:10:56It yeah, I kind of want a donut now myself, to be honest with
- 3:10:59you. They had, I saw some pictures,
- 3:11:05they had doughnuts with like bacon on them and stuff too.
- 3:11:07So super yummy. Anyways, in.
- 3:11:10Michigan aggravated salt assault is generally classified as a
- 3:11:14High Court misdemeanor, so punishable by up to one year in
- 3:11:19jail, $1000 fine, or both. So per the definitions,
- 3:11:24aggravated assault involves serious or aggravated injuries,
- 3:11:27such as those requiring medical treatment but which are not
- 3:11:30considered great bodily harm. Felonious assault, on the other
- 3:11:34hand, also known as assault with a dangerous weapon, is a felony
- 3:11:39punishable by up to four years in prison and up to a $2000
- 3:11:42fine. And then there's a assault with
- 3:11:45intent to do great bodily harm, which is more severe, yet up to
- 3:11:5010 years in prison. And then domestic violence is
- 3:11:53categorized separately. In Michigan, the first offense
- 3:11:55is a 93 day misdemeanor. You get up to a third offense
- 3:11:59though, and you raise it up to A5 year felony.
- 3:12:04So that's how things work in Michigan regarding that.
- 3:12:07I know, Michael, you had a question about why it was just a
- 3:12:11a misdemeanor, but that's the reason there was no weapon
- 3:12:15involved. And I guess they didn't classify
- 3:12:20it as assault with intent to do great bodily harm, but I don't
- 3:12:24know. It's it's so.
- 3:12:26Interesting how the. Courts look at these things,
- 3:12:28isn't it? Because I don't know how how you
- 3:12:33could take somebody shove them into a case like that one we
- 3:12:38just looked at and not expect that you would do great bodily
- 3:12:43harm or potentially. I mean, you know, there was a
- 3:12:48potential obviously for cuts all over her, which she did have,
- 3:12:51but I mean, even more severe, serious, rather more severe
- 3:12:56potential for broken bones. You know, depending on how her
- 3:13:01head went through the glass, if she'd nicked the right portion
- 3:13:03of her neck, she could have bled out.
- 3:13:06So I think you definitely could have made a case to call, in my
- 3:13:10mind anyways, to call that assault with intent to do great
- 3:13:13bodily harm. But you know, in Michigan and
- 3:13:19it's it seems so often, especially compared to other
- 3:13:21states, that they tend to in a. Lot of ways charge.
- 3:13:24Softer there. I don't know why, but they do at
- 3:13:29least that's, you know, anecdotal what we see here on
- 3:13:31the channel and it's a little bit messed up in my opinion.
- 3:13:36But I think this case for me and by the way, he got 100 days
- 3:13:42credit 38, but specifically the judge.
- 3:13:45Made it possible for. Cass County to come get him
- 3:13:48because apparently he's got something else in Cass County
- 3:13:51that he's on probation for. I don't recall the specifics,
- 3:13:54but I seem to recall it was a felony.
- 3:13:56And if that's the case, then this probably violates that.
- 3:14:00And I think Middleton is hoping that that will result in a
- 3:14:05prison sentence for him. I could be wrong, but but I
- 3:14:13don't know. I'm I'm hoping that's what he.
- 3:14:16Hopes there because it was light.
- 3:14:18But. The bigger thing that this case
- 3:14:20spoke to me about? Is.
- 3:14:23Just the. Senseless nature of the violence
- 3:14:26that we're seeing across the United States right now.
- 3:14:32Again, this is just one one piece of a larger puzzle of what
- 3:14:35we're seeing. But it's true.
- 3:14:38People doing stupid things and it's, I don't know if it's
- 3:14:43becoming more and more of a regular thing or if it's simply
- 3:14:47the fact that we all have Internet access with 24/7 news
- 3:14:52cycles, so we're seeing more of it because of that.
- 3:14:56I don't know which, but if I think about how how the world
- 3:15:04worked when I was younger growing up in the 70s and 80s
- 3:15:09versus. How it works now it feels
- 3:15:11different. To me, I don't, I don't recall
- 3:15:17this level of stupidity. I mean, there was stupidity.
- 3:15:22For sure, but. It just it seems like it's.
- 3:15:24It's everywhere. Now.
- 3:15:26And it's not good for us. It's not sustainable.
- 3:15:29We can't keep acting fools like this and doing stupid things
- 3:15:32like shoving a lady into a doughnut case.
- 3:15:35Apparently just 'cause didn't seem to be any reason other than
- 3:15:40that. Although didn't he claim that he
- 3:15:42like yeah, he claimed he tripped.
- 3:15:43I wrote the note on that. But then as I recall, the
- 3:15:46security footage showed a totally different story there.
- 3:15:50But so, you know, just some guy acting a fool just decided that
- 3:15:55he's going to assault somebody just for the sake of assaulting
- 3:15:59them. And.
- 3:16:02That's just not going to fly. We can't, we can't be like this.
- 3:16:06We can't sustain it. It just doesn't work.
- 3:16:12I don't know, there's so much I could say on it and I don't want
- 3:16:14to get like super duper preachy, but.
- 3:16:17The thing I like about this community is I think.
- 3:16:19That we all kind of have our heads right, but so many don't,
- 3:16:27Lindsay said. He also may not have been in his
- 3:16:29right mind, which isn't an excuse, but a fact of the case.
- 3:16:32Well, that could very much. Be the case as well, Lindsay.
- 3:16:35He could not have been in his right mind.
- 3:16:38But then we still have the failure of mental health that
- 3:16:40we've talked about 1000 times over, don't we?
- 3:16:43And I guess there's also the question of what has he done to
- 3:16:47not be in his right mind? Is there any substance abuse
- 3:16:51there? Was he drinking beforehand,
- 3:16:54doing some kind of drug? I don't know.
- 3:16:57But at some point, even if you have issues, I think there has
- 3:17:02to be something to be said for taking some agency in your
- 3:17:14issues. And if he's, if he's good enough
- 3:17:19to sit in front of the judge and talk fairly eloquently for the
- 3:17:25few words he did say to understand what he's going
- 3:17:28through. Because obviously they didn't
- 3:17:30have a, they didn't have a competency concern there, then
- 3:17:33there ought to be enough in there for you to equally realize
- 3:17:38that you have a problem that needs to be dealt with at least
- 3:17:41on some level. So it's probably a mix of
- 3:17:45things. There's there's the fact that we
- 3:17:47don't do enough for mental health, but then there's also
- 3:17:50the fact that he's not taking enough agency in his own life to
- 3:17:53address whatever he might have. Or he was just drunk or high,
- 3:17:59you know, or just acting a fool. There's so many possibilities
- 3:18:03there. But however you slice Dice and
- 3:18:07Julian Fry it, it is not it's not sustainable.
- 3:18:11And we can't keep doing this as a society.
- 3:18:15So those are my thoughts on that one.
- 3:18:20Head SE over to Lake. County, Ohio and.
- 3:18:24Judge Colada, So if you. Recall that case.
- 3:18:29That was the drug addict guy. Now if I recall he said he was
- 3:18:3520 plus years into his addiction issues.
- 3:18:39He has kids 'cause he was worried about not being there
- 3:18:42for him and he was stealing from the place where he worked to the
- 3:18:49tune of $6006. And 18 cents or something.
- 3:18:53Like that, that he has to pay in restitution.
- 3:18:58And this guy, he committed the cardinal sin that we constantly
- 3:19:02talk about here in SO. Many ways, and that's.
- 3:19:04Just show up all. He had to do was show up and he
- 3:19:10didn't show up for his pre sentence.
- 3:19:12Report the pre sentence. Investigation.
- 3:19:16So the option of even giving that guy any kind of of
- 3:19:22probation was taken. Off the plate.
- 3:19:24For the judge, by law, according to what the judge said, he was
- 3:19:30not allowed to actually consider him for probation because the
- 3:19:34pre sentence report was not done.
- 3:19:37So again, people act in fools and the one, the one thing he
- 3:19:41had one job show up and better things probably would have
- 3:19:45happened, but he didn't. And but here's the thing, nine
- 3:19:50months, he steals over 6 grand from people who are trying to
- 3:19:56look after him and trying to take care of him because they'd
- 3:19:58mentioned that they were. Constantly giving him advances
- 3:20:00on. His salary and stuff too, to try
- 3:20:02to keep them going and he's still stealing from them.
- 3:20:06But they're we only see nine months.
- 3:20:10I don't know if that's, you know, we've, we've talked about
- 3:20:13that before though. I I say I.
- 3:20:14Don't know if it's enough, but in the same respect, we've
- 3:20:17talked before about how if these people who have the financial
- 3:20:22crimes, if they're put in jail or prison for too long, then it
- 3:20:27makes it harder for the victim to receive any kind of
- 3:20:31restitution. Plus, they don't receive
- 3:20:34restitution with any kind of interest, which, you know, just
- 3:20:38means that in Judge Stevens references in his court where
- 3:20:42they're losing, they're losing the ability to use that money
- 3:20:46and the value of the money keeps going down, especially in the
- 3:20:50current economy where inflation is kind of out of control still.
- 3:20:53I don't care what anybody says, it's still a problem.
- 3:20:58So they're losing the value of all of that money the longer it
- 3:21:02takes for them to get their money back, which.
- 3:21:05Sucks but. So I'm really torn on that one.
- 3:21:08If you've got other thoughts, tell me.
- 3:21:10But there's a part of me that feels like he should have gotten
- 3:21:13a lot more, if for no other reason than if he's in.
- 3:21:17If he's in prison for a couple years, maybe, fingers toes
- 3:21:21crossed, he could get enough services to break that that
- 3:21:24addiction situation. But in the same respect, I
- 3:21:29realized that the longer you leave him in, the harder it is
- 3:21:31for restitution to happen. But this is another one to me
- 3:21:35that speaks to the concept of drugs not being a victimless
- 3:21:40crime. I know that a lot of you out
- 3:21:42there disagree with me on this point, but I am staunchly anti
- 3:21:45drug and I'm not going to claim that I'm not.
- 3:21:47I line up much more behind the Judge Elmore's of the world who
- 3:21:52has flat said to people I'll take on anybody in a debate
- 3:21:56about whether or not drugs are a victimless crime.
- 3:21:59Because here you've got a drug addict who's going to jail for
- 3:22:03nine months, which means his family is without him, his kids
- 3:22:07are without him, his employers are without their $6000 because
- 3:22:12he's out there doing drugs and being a fool.
- 3:22:15So there are definitely victims. We can claim all day long that
- 3:22:18we don't care what somebody does with their body and what they
- 3:22:21put into it. And that would be.
- 3:22:23Great if that person was in a vacuum, but they're not.
- 3:22:27They never are because you can't go through society, you can't
- 3:22:32live on this planet without interacting with others.
- 3:22:35So your actions at some point end up end up affecting others
- 3:22:40no matter what we do. So I don't know.
- 3:22:47Again, another person acting a fool.
- 3:22:50And this is just not sustainable.
- 3:22:55And then there's the Middleton. Case.
- 3:22:57They're not the Middleton case, the Stevens case rather, and
- 3:22:59this was the guy who did crimes against kids.
- 3:23:04He had three charges against him, sexual assault of a child,
- 3:23:08indecency with a child second degree, and indecency with a
- 3:23:12child third degree. They dropped the indecency
- 3:23:15second on that plea which left him with the sex assault 2nd and
- 3:23:19the indecency 3rd that he was charged on and he got 10 years
- 3:23:28which is probably closer to appropriate than what we
- 3:23:30normally see. Out of Stevens Court.
- 3:23:34Or. Any of the courts because so
- 3:23:36often. And I we continue to not
- 3:23:39understand exactly why this is the case, but it is the case.
- 3:23:44We know it 'cause we see it all the time.
- 3:23:46We have these crimes that happen where a child is involved and
- 3:23:52then so often these guys get a slap on the wrist.
- 3:24:01It's just, it's not punished, generally speaking, as harshly
- 3:24:05as it should be. You know we've.
- 3:24:07Joked, but it's almost It's almost not a.
- 3:24:09Joke where you know if you if you take a fish out of season
- 3:24:13and miss, you're in Florida. Rather it's like 32 consecutive
- 3:24:16life sentences. But but then you go to Texas and
- 3:24:21you do something to a child and you know, I, my joke is, is that
- 3:24:24the judge will take you to the sizzler for dinner that night.
- 3:24:29So a little more credit, but ten years still feels incredibly
- 3:24:33light to me. These ought to be, I don't know,
- 3:24:38tell me if you think differently, but I feel like
- 3:24:40these ought to be at least 25 year deals especially.
- 3:24:44Especially wasn't he, he's admitting.
- 3:24:46To it, you know it's. This isn't a this isn't a I'm
- 3:24:50professing my innocence the entire time.
- 3:24:53He he did a plea here. So.
- 3:24:55He's taking. Responsibility for it and there
- 3:25:01you go, Wahoo says. There should have been a
- 3:25:02lifetime registry he was forced to register but I then I thought
- 3:25:07it was. Lifetime.
- 3:25:08I could be wrong. But they but he did point out to
- 3:25:12him that he has to be on the registry.
- 3:25:17But you know, what good is the registry other than perhaps, you
- 3:25:21know, keeping you from being employed and perhaps affecting
- 3:25:26where you live to a certain extent, but go scan, but go scan
- 3:25:30your neighborhood. Just about everybody's got
- 3:25:33somebody on the registry in their neighborhood.
- 3:25:35So I, I don't know at this point what good it does.
- 3:25:38But that could also speak to just how prevalent this, this
- 3:25:42crime is, huh? Because we've talked about that
- 3:25:47too. And I, I swear to all of you, I
- 3:25:50don't pull these hearings up on purpose.
- 3:25:53I really don't. But we stumble into something,
- 3:25:57multiple things, usually every single day, every single day.
- 3:26:01There's something out there. Doesn't matter, it seems where I
- 3:26:04go, what court, what state, what county.
- 3:26:09Somebody's doing something bad to a kid and we encounter it and
- 3:26:14there's very little exception. Except.
- 3:26:24Whoops, OK, we're back. I lost signal over here for a
- 3:26:28second but I guess it's still working but.
- 3:26:35It's just nuts. I mean, I don't know, like I
- 3:26:41said, you can't, you can't not see this stuff constantly.
- 3:26:47And I I worry, I suppose, about. What that continues to say
- 3:26:52about. About our society because it's
- 3:26:55really messed up and we. Don't seem to punish it.
- 3:26:59Hard enough, but partial credit where credit is due.
- 3:27:03I suppose this is better than we normally see out of middle or
- 3:27:05out of Stevens. Rather.
- 3:27:09Normally it's a slap on the wrist.
- 3:27:11I still think this is light though, but that could perhaps
- 3:27:13be me any who if you want to talk about any of.
- 3:27:17Those things feel. Free to hop on in and we can do
- 3:27:20so in the meantime outside of what we saw today.
- 3:27:25So I ran across this this morning and this.
- 3:27:29Wasn't even something that was on my.
- 3:27:31Radar. It might have been on your
- 3:27:33radar, but this is definitely fascinating to me.
- 3:27:40So this guy named Ryan Wedding, he was a ex Olympic snowboarder.
- 3:27:45For. Canada, as I recall, and he was
- 3:27:50arrested in Mexico by the FBI for being a drug kingpin, which
- 3:27:56is nuts. So let's see what this is.
- 3:27:58This is from Yahoo Sports, but there's a bunch of different
- 3:28:01outlets that have reported on this.
- 3:28:03Now former Olympic snowboarder Ryan Wedding arrested in Mexico,
- 3:28:08an FBI announced on Friday. Wedding 44.
- 3:28:11Was the FB is on? The FB is 10 Most Wanted list
- 3:28:15for charges that included murder and money laundering.
- 3:28:18He's also accused of being the leader of the largest cocaine
- 3:28:21distribution operation in his native Canada.
- 3:28:25The FBI had announced in November it was increasingly
- 3:28:28rewarded for information leading to wedding weddings, arrest and
- 3:28:32or conviction from 10 million to $15 million.
- 3:28:36It's a crazy award for this guy. Plus, you know, if he was a
- 3:28:40Olympic snowboarder, then he's got a little bit of fame, I
- 3:28:43would think. Shouldn't have been that hard to
- 3:28:45find him. But FBI Director Cash Patel
- 3:28:49posted on social media that wedding was arrested in Mexico
- 3:28:52and will be transported back to the US.
- 3:28:54Quote This is a huge day for a safer North America and the
- 3:28:57world and a message that those who break our laws and harm our
- 3:29:00citizens will be brought to justice.
- 3:29:04Wedding placed 24th in the parallel giant slalom as part of
- 3:29:08Team Canada during the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake.
- 3:29:12The Department of Justice claims that since then, he built a
- 3:29:15criminal enterprise that worked with prominent Mexican cartels
- 3:29:19to move hundreds of kilograms of cocaine from Colombia into
- 3:29:22Mexico by boat or plane and then into the US and Canada via semi
- 3:29:27trucks. Additionally, authorities allege
- 3:29:30that Wedding's group orchestrated the murder of three
- 3:29:34people, one of them a federal witness who was set to testify
- 3:29:38against Wedding before he was gunned down at the restaurant in
- 3:29:43Medallion, Columbia. Wedding allegedly found the
- 3:29:47witness by posting his picture to a website that his son's been
- 3:29:52taken down. During a November news
- 3:29:55conference, Pam Bondi called Wedding one of the.
- 3:29:57Most prolific and violent. Drug trafficking organizers in
- 3:30:00the world. While Cash Patel described him
- 3:30:03as a modern day iteration of Pablo Escobar.
- 3:30:07Bondi claimed over 2000 kilos of cocaine have been seized over
- 3:30:10the course of the investigation, as well as numerous weapons. 3.2
- 3:30:14million in crypto and 13 million in other assets.
- 3:30:17Wedding also faces separate charges from a 2015 drug
- 3:30:21trafficking case in Canada. He'd been previously convicted
- 3:30:24in the US of conspiracy to distribute cocaine and was
- 3:30:27sentenced to prison in 2010. If convicted on the murder, he
- 3:30:31faces a mandatory life without parole.
- 3:30:36So again, this one, it kind of escaped me.
- 3:30:39I wasn't even aware this was a thing until.
- 3:30:43I ran across the story this morning.
- 3:30:46And maybe I just don't have a big enough criminal mind, which
- 3:30:50is probably a good thing. But how do you go from
- 3:30:56snowboarder to drug kingpin? That's the.
- 3:31:04The biggest question that I have from this one, I mean, I
- 3:31:08suppose. You could claim you're moving
- 3:31:10from powder to. Powder ha ha.
- 3:31:12But. I I just, I don't understand
- 3:31:16where the synergy is there, where the crossover is.
- 3:31:23It doesn't. It doesn't add up to me because
- 3:31:26if you. Maybe I'm naive and maybe I'm
- 3:31:31wrong, but. It feels to me like if you're
- 3:31:32going to rise to that level. In that kind of crime.
- 3:31:38It feels to me like it's something.
- 3:31:42That you would have. More grown up around, you know
- 3:31:45what I mean? And and been like trained in it.
- 3:31:48And maybe he. Was and the snowboarding thing
- 3:31:52was just kind of a, a pastime that he got really good at.
- 3:31:57I I don't know, because, you know, two things can be true at
- 3:32:01once. You can be a criminal and a good
- 3:32:03athlete. Like we've never seen that
- 3:32:04before. You know, Michael Vick, great
- 3:32:09quarterback, also love to do bad things with dogs.
- 3:32:13I you know, so I suppose that's true, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't
- 3:32:20suspect that growing up in Canada, playing on playing on
- 3:32:26the hills and the mountains with your snowboard suddenly leads.
- 3:32:32To when that career is. Over you becoming a drug kingpin
- 3:32:36again. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't
- 3:32:38remember. I don't remember growing up in
- 3:32:43Michigan and going out skiing and seeing a whole lot of drug
- 3:32:48trade up at like Boyne. I don't know, Lindsay, do you
- 3:32:54remember that you grew up in that area?
- 3:32:57I, I don't, I don't recall it, but it's weird, strikes me as
- 3:33:02weird. But I'm glad they got him and
- 3:33:07hopefully he's brought to justice because it sounds like
- 3:33:10they've got a pretty solid case there.
- 3:33:14All right, one more story for you guys.
- 3:33:18There we go. Another thing, this is from
- 3:33:31Courthouse News. This speaks to a bunch of the
- 3:33:36fraud that we're seeing around the United States.
- 3:33:38Hadn't seen this one yet before though.
- 3:33:41LA homeless. Housing provider charged with.
- 3:33:43Stealing $10 million in funding. A Los Angeles provider of
- 3:33:48housing and services for homeless people was arrested
- 3:33:51Friday. Friday was a big arrest day
- 3:33:53around the maybe not Blaine. Probably Crystal, though.
- 3:33:59All right, fair enough. I, I never frequented Crystal,
- 3:34:04so I'll leave. I'll leave that one up to you.
- 3:34:06Lindsay, Los Angeles, provider of housing and services for
- 3:34:13homeless people, was arrested Friday on charges he stole.
- 3:34:15At least 10 million. From funding intended for the
- 3:34:18unhoused and used it to fill his own Piggy Bank.
- 3:34:23Alexander Soufer, 42, charged with wire fraud, according to an
- 3:34:27announcement from the US Attorney's Office in LA, faces
- 3:34:30up to 20 years in prison. He won't get that much.
- 3:34:35He'll get 10 out in 7 1/2. That's my bet.
- 3:34:39Suefer is the. Executive Director.
- 3:34:41Of Abundant Blessings, a charity based in Hyde Park neighborhood
- 3:34:44of South LA, he received 5 million in contracts from the
- 3:34:48Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority to provide housing for
- 3:34:52people who were homeless or were at risk of becoming homeless.
- 3:34:56He also received more than 17 million in contracts through a
- 3:35:00downtown LA based nonprofit called Special Services for
- 3:35:03Groups Incorporated. Federal prosecutors accuse him
- 3:35:08of misappropriating the money to bankroll a lavish lifestyle that
- 3:35:11included luxury improvements on a 7 million.
- 3:35:13Dollar House in the. LA upscale Westwood neighborhood
- 3:35:16475,000 for what appears to be a vacation property in Greece, OK
- 3:35:24private schooling for his children, lavish spending in Las
- 3:35:27Vegas, private jet travel and stays at luxury resorts.
- 3:35:30Across the US from. Miami to Palm Beach Suefer's
- 3:35:33also accused of failing to appropriately shelter and feed
- 3:35:37the homeless at his sights. Christ forgive me for that,
- 3:35:42Lord. So not only is he stealing, he's
- 3:35:47not even using the money that he doesn't steal to properly take
- 3:35:49care of the people who he is supposed to be taking care of
- 3:35:55after receiving hotline complaints and seeing anomalies
- 3:35:58in his billing and services. LAHSA and city investigators.
- 3:36:03Conducted site visits and, prosecutors say, found that the
- 3:36:07only food services were things like ramen noodles, canned beans
- 3:36:11and breakfast bars, rather than three meals a day.
- 3:36:14He was getting paid for charges against Super Follow, those the
- 3:36:20US Attorney's office brought last year, and against two
- 3:36:23others for defrauding local and state agencies that fund
- 3:36:25homeless aid programs. And I don't even need to read
- 3:36:30the rest of that. We spend as a.
- 3:36:40Country Ridiculous amounts of money.
- 3:36:44Crazy ridiculous amounts every. Year on, trying to help people
- 3:36:49around the United States, whether it's the homeless
- 3:36:52population or those who aren't making enough money to feed
- 3:36:55their families or whatever the case may be, and it is always
- 3:36:58just so rampant with fraud. This is kind of become a little
- 3:37:07bit of a broken record too, hasn't it?
- 3:37:08I mean, we see it all across. The United States.
- 3:37:11I mean, famously there's some questions about daycare.
- 3:37:14Going on in Minnesota right now, there's this.
- 3:37:19We see. We just, we see it everywhere.
- 3:37:24And I don't know, like I said, if you hang around.
- 3:37:29Me long enough. You know that I'm very big.
- 3:37:30On preaching to about doing the right thing, about being
- 3:37:34responsible, if you do make a bad choice, you take
- 3:37:39responsibility for that and accept it.
- 3:37:41I don't know. I can't, I can't fathom in my
- 3:37:46mind doing a crime as big as taking, you know, what was the
- 3:37:5210 million or whatever dollars out of the hands of those who
- 3:37:57need it just to survive. Because I mean, even they're not
- 3:38:04going to see the full benefit of that because of the overhead
- 3:38:06that has to go into helping these people.
- 3:38:09But but still. To pocket it yourself and get a
- 3:38:13get a vacation home in Greece and a bunch of trips and private
- 3:38:16jets and everything else while everybody else is surviving on
- 3:38:19ramen and breakfast bars. It's a problem.
- 3:38:22Yeah, kelps as infuriating. How are these orgs getting
- 3:38:28vetted better? Well, that's a question, isn't
- 3:38:36it? I mean.
- 3:38:39It could very well be that you have a.
- 3:38:43Situation where the people who are supposed to vet.
- 3:38:46Are overworked. So.
- 3:38:49They just push through the. Paperwork and don't pay a whole
- 3:38:51lot of attention. It could be payouts because it
- 3:38:55could be that that, you know, they're corrupt or it could be
- 3:39:00corrupt in another way that the people who had vetted her in on
- 3:39:02it as well. I don't know.
- 3:39:05There's so many different reasons why that could happen.
- 3:39:09All we know, I suppose, is that it does.
- 3:39:12But we count on, we count on the goodness of others, and there's
- 3:39:19so many out there that do good and I don't want to.
- 3:39:23Throw everybody under. The bus.
- 3:39:24But too often we see examples of those who don't do good, those
- 3:39:28who don't have our best interests at heart, and then we
- 3:39:32see things like this. This one just bothered me
- 3:39:34though. You know, we see theft all the
- 3:39:37time, but this is this is an especially egregious one to me
- 3:39:41just because again, this is this is supposed to be trying to help
- 3:39:44people. While some try, at least I agree
- 3:39:49Ashley, some do try. Charles writes, going back to
- 3:39:58the wedding thing. Wedding started outgrowing
- 3:39:59marijuana in British Columbia and I guess expanded into
- 3:40:03cocaine. He's pretty good at evading
- 3:40:04prosecution. At first, OK, so snowboarding
- 3:40:10and marijuana, I can see those going hand in hand.
- 3:40:13There's a lot of there's a lot of culture crossing there
- 3:40:19because you see it, you see it in like the snowboarding in the
- 3:40:22skateboarding community. That that makes sense to me.
- 3:40:29So, you know, it's often talked about how marijuana is a gateway
- 3:40:33drug, but I didn't think they meant that in this fashion where
- 3:40:37it's a gateway from growing and selling marijuana into growing
- 3:40:41and and selling cocaine. But there you go.
- 3:40:47I don't know, it's a weird, weird world, my friends.
- 3:40:51But the good news is, is that we're all here to experience it
- 3:40:55together, and you guys are great.
- 3:40:57So that's the good part. Well, friends, I don't have much
- 3:41:05else to share with you today. Michael says growing and selling
- 3:41:13marijuana isn't nearly as profitable as cocaine.
- 3:41:15Well, that's very. True, especially now that weed
- 3:41:18is legal, Yeah. Now they kind of shut down that
- 3:41:20market. Unintended consequences once
- 3:41:23again, though, I suppose you shut down the illegal, shut down
- 3:41:26the illegal cocaine or illegal marijuana market.
- 3:41:29And you know, people are going to move over to cocaine, I
- 3:41:31suppose. So there you go.
- 3:41:34All right, my friends, I'm going to call it a day, just a few
- 3:41:37minutes early, but I've covered really everything I want to
- 3:41:39cover. We'll be back tomorrow, 9:00 AM
- 3:41:41Eastern, 6:00 AM Pacific. Half an hour early for Channel
- 3:41:44members. Plus we have sidebar tomorrow
- 3:41:46night at 8:00 PM Eastern, 5:00 PM Pacific.
- 3:41:51Not sure what we're talking about yet.
- 3:41:52We got to figure that out today, gang.
- 3:41:55But we'll be back tomorrow. So thank you so much for
- 3:41:58spending three hours, 45 minutes with me.
- 3:42:02I appreciate it. It's been a good day.
- 3:42:04Thank you all so much and I will see you tomorrow.
- 3:42:06Take care, God bless.