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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is in ho Today podcasts. What exactly is fasting?
- 0:08Intermittent fasting, time restricted fasting?
- 0:12Speaker 2: Could celebrities to say one dayel or ethanotrol, money, electric
- 0:18vehicle first, noiseless healthy life, health insurance, fasting term insurance fast.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Back in the day, religion was a tool for it.
- 0:28Savonka fast Ramzan. Similarly, a lot of these religions at
- 0:32the end of the day were trying to tell you
- 0:35and give you this information that it's a good time
- 0:37to give your body a break. But have we confused
- 0:40that Ramzanko fried food curate.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I'll talk about the universal money save, invest spend. You
- 0:52have your diet. It is a running currency. If you
- 0:55are eating more than required, a part of it is
- 0:57saved and it appears in your belly. So you billy
- 1:00keeps increasing Matu Brahm alcohol, provident fund or share market,
- 1:17mutual compounding.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Fasting means no food of fasting means like.
- 1:23Speaker 2: So only water, target calorie diversity. Once in fifteen days
- 1:30you should eat everything. But in my discipline protein high fiber,
- 1:35high per alternate Sunday.
- 1:37Speaker 1: But when you say Coanga you mean.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Scotland. The lo p teen drink whiskey with those char.
- 1:59Speaker 1: People think that fasting is equal to t talks. K
- 2:03I is such a.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Fast fruit juices for detoxification, for fasting, for dieting.
- 2:12Speaker 1: That cook is better than a fruit juice.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yes, acts.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Do you think she's wrong?
- 2:22Speaker 2: Cancer wife, head teacher.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Missus markana al Chi fasting.
- 2:39Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not controversial.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to doctor us his internet amsonal topic
- 2:52and jasper what Sarry views here. But surprisingly it's the
- 2:57only topic where east at actually meets west. It's one
- 3:03issue that modern medicine and traditional wisdom actually both agree upon.
- 3:08It is one thing that Hindus and Muslims both do.
- 3:12It is one thing that Sonambangchu can elon Musk also do.
- 3:17What am I talking about? I'm talking about the concept
- 3:20of fasting. It doesn't matter if you do it by
- 3:24the day, or you do it by the hour, you
- 3:27do it by the month, or you do it just
- 3:31because you feel like it. Fasting is something that goes
- 3:34on to just give more and more. And like I said,
- 3:39this is one issue where there is no verses. Everybody
- 3:43believes that there is some truth to it. But perhaps
- 3:46it is one of the most misunderstood things. Kai look
- 3:50fast kin umper feast kare kay look fast kin umper
- 3:54starf karre to sah tarika kaha fast karneka or kisiki
- 3:59is a fast bilk how much? And to talk to
- 4:04me about this? I have with me doctor Shubham. What's
- 4:06hello and welcome?
- 4:07Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Doctor Schubham is a GI expert here, but fasting per
- 4:12he has done a lot of research, so I thought
- 4:14it'll be interesting to sort of get him in. So subsel,
- 4:17doctor Shubambak. Fasting a process who carry body? If you
- 4:23can break it down very simply for us, when I'm
- 4:26not eating for a prolonged period of time, what is
- 4:30happening inside my body?
- 4:32Speaker 2: So we talked about a lot of religions. I'll talk
- 4:34about the universal's religion. Money. Okay, So every person in life,
- 4:39what he wants to do is that save, invests, spend
- 4:44and with every day income or monthly income twenty thirty percent,
- 4:49spend and save this sixty seventy percent. That's how the
- 4:53Indian mentality is. Okay. So now we are talking about
- 4:57things that when do you use one hundred percent of
- 5:01your saving or your FDH when the running cash flow
- 5:05triser mm hm. So I am equating cash flow two
- 5:09calories mm hm. So you have a reserve in your
- 5:14body in the form of glycogen, in the form of
- 5:16proteins in the form of fat. Right, and you have
- 5:21your diet, which is a running blue cose. It is
- 5:25a running currency. So if you are eating more than required,
- 5:30a part of it is saved and it appears in
- 5:32your belly, so your belly keeps increasing. India male a female.
- 5:37Thus be these Charlie to females healthy health or liver
- 5:56frossuka viruses. Technically a met Brahman alcohol madam does ya
- 6:15provident fund or share market mutual fund compounding. So this
- 6:21is the whole concept. See Maria fasting, Maria metabolic dysfunction,
- 6:35associate state or deliver disease non alcoholic fat delivered. These
- 6:40are the actual in on the ground. Like my dad
- 6:43likes to say, patients are normally tom We are backtracking
- 6:54to fast in reserve stores user hm hmm. This is
- 7:02opposite of financial growth right us saving oliver calories use
- 7:08ny saving valley q job Karen fat a liver you
- 7:14reserve parts person is other liver cells a fat deposit fat,
- 7:18liver limit liver key fat deposit wo fat nicol liver,
- 7:24j gold jeb arteries, coronary brainro di females, facial hero
- 7:41subs A p C O s A p M O
- 7:44s y A spectrum object. Fasting care basically is subc
- 7:52rokre or actually elongativity either jar up influencer you know
- 8:00to the fasting the I AM recommend m C l
- 8:07one supervision mako bramas but eventually topic fasting.
- 8:19Speaker 1: You're right, spectrum hair. But types of fasting, intermittent fasting,
- 8:29time restricted fasting could celebrities say one mill a day,
- 8:35could a water fasting bull, the fruit fasting, internet.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Fasting fast okay, the classified time restricted eating that's i f.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So M.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Time restricted eating and Carlo body relax time. Periodic fasting
- 9:08DIY bots are studies is five is to to this
- 9:11non consecutive days. Thus persons come calories, but on Monday
- 9:17the persons become calories. Normally Tuesday when is a normallygia
- 9:20Thursday Friday is then or ugly random actual yokai up
- 9:33Periodic fasting FIAT. Alternate day fasting studies may again alternate
- 9:38day of Thus persons become calories leaner normal calories modified
- 9:43alternate day fasting. This come up lan hm hmm, ferrata extended,
- 9:49prolonged fasting, your fast your dangerous area or religious fasting
- 9:56to medically fasting your courage target calory deversity, kid namer
- 10:02the fancy target caloriy deversity Matt Smith seventy seven hundred
- 10:09kilo calories, positive balance a kilo gain seventy seven undred
- 10:13ko calories, connecative balance, ak loss maintenance, the killo calorie
- 10:20or ABIs calory to science sameant to parts killo calory
- 10:29the extra a s seventy seven hundred char divide.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Is there a minus car though, but in a calculation
- 10:43or logo k you calculate, didn't make.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Me calories car is problem emotional touchment.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Because people don't understand and then especially our generation with
- 10:55where food is such a tradition, where food is in emotion,
- 10:59where food it is loved, calories here to nice much
- 11:10hack to try and tell them that how do you
- 11:12understand the amount of calorie that you're consuming?
- 11:16Speaker 2: There's no shortcut to discipline, to hack to actually life
- 11:22if you ask me, but yes, I would say that
- 11:26once in fifteen days you you should eat everything, okay
- 11:31everything because science sustainable model, discipline katarika chada. Then my
- 11:39bill cool karma, life, minimal kanga per alternate Sunday hmm
- 11:49tom motion mary calories be but baki. Then my discipline
- 11:53rang protein, high fiber, high medium fat, low carb dit coma.
- 11:58Speaker 1: I see. But when it says up kanga, you mean
- 12:02but you will control your potions.
- 12:05Speaker 2: M anderence. Those are a glory extra. If I can
- 12:23say that, I'm sure it's not controversial. Jam Scotland h
- 12:32explain Mari society mad socializing after the social media vility
- 12:41lo pele teen drink whiskey tick or any star up
- 13:00scott Scotch the Scottish Highlands v in or they hang
- 13:11a Mr Scotch which which ann thirt t M L
- 13:25six tml literally so drink driver. I am actually surprised
- 13:34with the kind of life we are living with the
- 13:36ground reality actual reality or the upper middle class or
- 13:41high social strata or it's I I call it, like,
- 13:48don't teach the Scottish how to scotch.
- 13:50Speaker 1: But let me come back to fasting for a little bit,
- 13:52because you know this noise that you're talking about, this
- 13:55food noise is what a lot of people struggle with.
- 13:57I also think back in the days of glogokipas upney
- 14:01baths scientific research, so religion was a tool for it,
- 14:07right bag Nampar Savanka fastka, weather is turning, infection is
- 14:15out there. Your gut is also resetting in a way,
- 14:18so it's a good time to give it a break,
- 14:21right okay. Ramzan similarly comes at a time when back
- 14:24in the day there in that part of the world,
- 14:28there used to be a turn in the weather, right Navatri,
- 14:31think about it again, comes at a time when again
- 14:33the weather is sturning. Lent comes at a time when
- 14:36the weather is turning. A lot of these religions at
- 14:39the end of the day were trying to tell you
- 14:41and give you this information that it's a good time
- 14:43to give your body a break. But have we confused
- 14:47that with different kinds of things. Ramzanko ham fried food
- 14:59car that at the end of it, you are more
- 15:01calorie you know, dense than you are calorie you know conscious.
- 15:07So is there a right way too fast? And what
- 15:11exactly does fasting mean? Fasting means no food, or fasting
- 15:15means like sona only water. What exactly is fasting.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Let me let me just talk about the signs of
- 15:22fasting I had my last callery. If this is the
- 15:26last callery I have at one pm on Tuesday, Today's
- 15:31fourth August, what will happen the next six us? If
- 15:34I don't have anything. The glucose I'm taking will fuel
- 15:39myself glucose excess reserve you liver on my glycogen basics
- 15:49storage FORMU sub to up liquid saving bank acount liver
- 15:58while glycog muscle glucosex phosphatase you break the muscle muscle liver.
- 16:11Top is gonna tay of fasting calorin black coffee genie
- 16:17use pan but calorine. You understand topes tabal glyco bodygo
- 16:27glucose to about amino acid alanine, liver, lactate, glycerol insubs
- 16:34glucose manata is process the glyco glyco geno lysis liss
- 16:40of glycos orbes glucose bluecose new genesis genesis production neo
- 16:48new gluco glucose so new glucose production from amino acids
- 16:53up author jes say towards seventy to up skeltual muscle
- 16:58hm hmmm, which is a red flag for the for
- 17:02the body to body A conservative mechanism, shall your day
- 17:06two fasting a subset tough taoid book hormone grellin grell
- 17:13and g s mm hmm you brain co glucose K
- 17:19twenty four to seventy two ur glucose, sulture, muscle liveric
- 17:23nazis when ketone hm HM or kyte a brain cookie. Yes.
- 17:30Body mechanism is skelt u seventy two body primarily ket
- 17:38or insulin, he glucose or body kne which brain cokie
- 17:47millas zina yet danger area becau was y. Thus person
- 18:02is skelture muscle loss he s he problems So man
- 18:08admit refeedings in Rome the fast careers mm hmm to
- 18:23bot Joe monitoring can low carb meals pants say the
- 18:32refeedings in Rome, Yes, science fasting up the low up reserves,
- 18:40use carne daily body body needs. This is fasting and
- 18:46this we are doing to prevent visceral idposity. He fat
- 18:50to glucis ho s A fast genesis man persistent genesis
- 18:59JO diabetes, the starvation maybe with the alcoholism. Maybe the
- 19:02the main cause genesis keyto genesis is the crisis mode
- 19:07of the body.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Got it. A lot of people think that fasting is
- 19:10equal to d tox k I such.
- 19:13Speaker 2: He k myth, super myth, the granddaddy of myths, because
- 19:20up body natural detoxific liver phase one, phase two reactions
- 19:27through up major toxin SCO detoxifier subsub toxic conso liver
- 19:33detoxif alcohol to joe toxins of detoxify kidney detoxifier ager
- 19:45to mirror recommendation plain water m hmm, body hydrate, career
- 19:51urine lie Q system sub but a detoxification key. They
- 19:59a millions of dollars business all over the world US
- 20:02A ban liver fifty two Okay and indiaka brand to
- 20:10nineteen fifty five Russia or for India alcohol case mm hmmm,
- 20:20liver fifty.
- 20:26Speaker 1: He talks.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Reservoir excess use head fasting, fasting evy hm hm electronic
- 20:37vehicle diesel or ethanol petrol electric vehicle had fasting hm
- 20:44hmm noiseless healthy life fasting h m hmmm, Atarrika fasting,
- 20:54health insurance, fasting term insurance fasting hm.
- 20:59Speaker 1: So iron said, what are you saying that largely fasting
- 21:02is done to keep your body on a calorie deficit
- 21:05and thus break down the fat deposits which are there.
- 21:08I get that, but you know, as a way of
- 21:13just sort of researching for this podcast, I fasted for
- 21:17twenty four hours yesterday. Right, it was also savkamar. My
- 21:20mother was very happy, so and but my way of
- 21:24fasting was very different from say a traditional Savanka fasting, kutuki, pacordia, alu,
- 21:35fry hota and a lot of other stuff that.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Goes in mouthwatering, fasting, feasting.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Actual feasting it right, So I did a fast in
- 21:44a very different way. I told myself, Okay, I will
- 21:46continue to take fluids throughout, and I want to do
- 21:51a gut reset as well, so I will continue. If
- 21:53I'm feeling hungry, I'll take like a mata like a
- 21:56buttermilk or something like that, and I'll take coconut water.
- 21:59Speaker 2: No, So your sugar you didn't have for twenty four
- 22:03so there was no sugar. But how many how much
- 22:06sugar do you take regularly in your life?
- 22:08Speaker 1: So I don't do sugar and so for how long?
- 22:11And I do monk fruit instead, So I don't do
- 22:15added sugar. Let me correct that. So I'm not adding
- 22:19sugar to any of my staff, ice cream rarely once
- 22:23in fifteen days. Mango to be precise, maybe a one
- 22:29mango in two days, okay?
- 22:33Speaker 2: And no sweet coffee chai cold drink no, no, okay,
- 22:40very good for me. It's been eight years since I
- 22:42had sugar.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Wow, added sugar?
- 22:44Speaker 2: You mean ice cream? Also?
- 22:47Speaker 1: No ice creamer sweet? Oh wow?
- 22:50Speaker 2: Yeah? So I think sugar is the new alcohol.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Sugar is indeed the new alcohol. But what I'm trying
- 22:58to tell you is that my view of fasting, from
- 23:00what I understand, was very different. My body needed a break.
- 23:04And if I had followed the traditional way of fasting,
- 23:06which was ka and to which I told her that
- 23:17I will understand from an expert on what is the
- 23:21right way to fast? AGA fast to give your body
- 23:25a break? It is once a week. What is the
- 23:29correct way to fast?
- 23:32Speaker 2: Five is to two, which means two random days of
- 23:36less than ten percent calor intake in total. Joe randomized
- 23:41control trials May early trial four were going steady hagg
- 23:48for inter fast to study heir diabetics may be so
- 23:51this may alternately fasting, and five is to fasting data
- 23:55but data sixteen weeks the key. But Joe A. B.
- 23:59Prolonged life. Calory deficit. Now when we have seen the
- 24:04chin Peter, so calorie deficit is definitely going to prolong
- 24:13healthy life. It's not a guarantee guarantee, but calory deficit
- 24:18definitely up productive with the same other variables. The guarantee is.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Five is to two schedule morning to evening.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Become glory honey normally, but coffee below both. That's it.
- 24:44Speaker 1: M hmm.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Depends on bomb the bomber calory bomber series. Actually, you
- 24:57want to reap the benefits in the prolonged I aim
- 25:00of fasting, then you have to be on those two days.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Fast is a fast that means no food at all.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Persons become calory thirty up requirement seventy twenty one hundred
- 25:16galories requirement. Normally you superre So those who does cavorries
- 25:20come leaning up with sell to running economy, running cash flow.
- 25:30Speaker 1: You have to starve it basically obviously.
- 25:34Speaker 2: That you can be cool about anything. Here here we
- 25:41are we are talking to talk about science and making
- 25:44it effective in our life. Home launch issue. Who but
- 25:54a brand that I'm intelligent locally so is a mass
- 26:04none of the businessman scalable businesses M fasting similar can
- 26:14whatever it is, but these are things we do. You
- 26:16think she's wrong, it's not scientific. You have to ask
- 26:19her oncologist responsible publicly. M just to say that we
- 26:29can do anything. But when we have to be responsible enough.
- 26:32If I say that I can influence people, then I
- 26:35have to be responsible enough to say the correct thing.
- 26:37That's all I'm saying.
- 26:38Speaker 1: No, I think what you are saying is that a
- 26:42lot of statements are made on.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Mary wife whom you cancer wife, guy, Niki Head, my teacher,
- 26:53ring and missus g M didn't go best of the
- 26:58best treatment, but don't go elections another. That's okay, that's okay,
- 27:06But when you do this you actually harm people. You
- 27:10actually harm people.
- 27:12Speaker 1: No, but you're not denying that fasting helps.
- 27:15Speaker 2: I'm not denying it.
- 27:16Speaker 1: But it doesn't cure, is what you're saying.
- 27:18Speaker 2: It has to be done in a systematic fashion, recommended
- 27:21by your specialist breast cancer surg. That is a populist
- 27:31method too, that's a desperate method to increase your social
- 27:34media each.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Yeah, but fasting. Aaron Elon Musk has spoken about intermittent fasting.
- 27:42Nicole Coodman, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Aniston, Jimmy Kemmel. A lot
- 27:47of people have said that fasting did help them and
- 27:49now it's a way of life for them.
- 27:51Speaker 2: It will help them and Mamci. Once you have that
- 27:54kind of money in your pocket, you want to live.
- 27:59And today, any any science and any minimalistic social media
- 28:04exposed person is aware about nutrition hm hmm right or
- 28:11a level per paid with NA. Yeah up actually, and
- 28:21you will refine your way of life. So yeah, fasting,
- 28:26this is actually the ground reality that we have to
- 28:29stay in. Calory deficit. That's the only scientific thing today
- 28:33which makes you healthy and productive for a long period
- 28:37of time. Fasting Kern calory A a female coup bena
- 28:48a male couple is right, so HDL pre minumasal women
- 28:57with PAS males may Charlie su ld Up eventually have
- 29:06cardiac fasting immediately p x B up Capital of diabutes
- 29:13in the world h b n C five point six
- 29:17c p T Charlie Communi one professional professional professionalashboard Health
- 29:25dashboard is a financialshboard s A UP DASHBOARDY three monthly
- 29:36up uppy Fasting effective up life be effective Healthy my
- 29:44fast Care k schedule EKE meal recommendation map. That will
- 29:56be my scientific opinion to fast. Take me honey, carb
- 30:03less than ten percent, fat lesson twenty percent, protein forty
- 30:07percent or fiber forty percent. Hm hmmki the sebis percent
- 30:14the sebis percent fat or carb or bakicha smith is
- 30:19this person protein and fiber or fiber gila a guava
- 30:25or do apple up? Sub change up diabetic and mango
- 30:31potion control maker umber to map died planned So honey,
- 30:38b a fast, garage black coffee, lunch skip, you can't
- 30:51three three three Kurney charbery black off your chase my
- 30:58fast we have and hunger hole.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Or mmm.
- 31:12Speaker 2: That will be my thing? What what I will recommend you.
- 31:15And if you even do this on two days of
- 31:18a week, I think you are pretty You're pretty sorted.
- 31:23I've reached a level where Mary body.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Pelly hm hm.
- 31:34Speaker 2: So I think that is the only way persistent the
- 31:39visceral adiposity mm hmm. You marker have health Pete m.
- 31:48Speaker 1: But a lot of people fast also for better gut
- 31:51health and just may have coffee. Eliminate that. This is
- 31:58for the next one week. I'm going to eliminate all
- 32:01kinds of dairy for the next one week. I will
- 32:04eliminate all kinds of raw food. I will eliminate that,
- 32:07and then I will give my gutter reseet Does that work?
- 32:11Speaker 2: No, his social media influencer.
- 32:15Speaker 1: It's actually there's a name for it.
- 32:16Speaker 2: It's called the Warrior Fasts. Another thing podcast.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Fasting. It's for everyone. It's good, but Johnny pest start
- 32:32with them. So take a fasting and importantly red flags,
- 32:45don't you know, push your body.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Ma'am diabetic skill, unsupervised fasting recommended right high sugars is
- 32:55other low sugar dangerous, correct brain damage persistently sugar ray
- 33:02to recommended or Jobi diabetics Family Family diabetics, oral or
- 33:14injection sugar drastically but so much recommend the first thing
- 33:25Kidney diseasecapatients or recommended our fasting him recommend podcast Amari
- 33:30Healthy Long Marine or Diabetics from Fasting recommend and a
- 33:36career app podcast. But it has to be under a
- 33:39supervised program m hm G l P one B has
- 33:43to be under a supervised program. Absolutely love a proper
- 33:48co You have to dedicated nutrition story. Yes I do
- 33:50knowledge Joe guide, I.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Could say us or strength training important.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Ye muscle loss method of weight percent muscles Hey or
- 34:06India A B M I B B the credible.
- 34:10Speaker 1: It's no longer the gold standard. It's got to be
- 34:13the wate to PRESI yeah.
- 34:15Speaker 2: The up hip we calculator, waste to major, time to
- 34:22mark to fasting, det doxification, fasting natarrica in log or
- 34:30subsequent carb low dem ta okay, intermittent fasting our Mediterranean
- 34:43grilled chicken with veggies veggies Jojo put chicken fish, egg
- 34:56olive oil up missed gie you mustard oil refined oily
- 35:07same chicken fish dal is it tasty? Sausage sausage mat
- 35:13used career per other dali A quiet taste m hm
- 35:18A quiet taste upo time lea. You have to fake
- 35:21it till you make it. There is no other way.
- 35:23There is no other way. Yeah, a meal skip replacement
- 35:32m h fool cream double to black coffee green. You
- 35:43have to exploit these things which are giving you energy, stimulation,
- 35:49concentration without giving you cal That's.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Level one chief level two per basic johanahe san lea
- 36:02do window hair fasting.
- 36:06Speaker 2: Ara office breakfast mm hmmm a grabritra dinner family or
- 36:15up quake with the equal culture game dinner because of
- 36:22that emotion for your family. Breakfast skip career, mm hmm
- 36:26breakfast kip career that easiest way office Ponjo busy ojoy
- 36:30black coffee, pillow into your book Huga bara sola six
- 36:40career again, complex carbo hydrates come white rice or kodal
- 36:49alka come portion made with salad bots lunch or for
- 36:55eight meal dinner about a.
- 37:04Speaker 1: Program, So sixteen is too eight is an ideal combination, Joe,
- 37:09any act.
- 37:09Speaker 2: A good combination for calorie deficit. The am is calory deficit.
- 37:14Speaker 1: But it's a lifestyle. You have to live with it.
- 37:17Speaker 2: You can replace Carna calm replaced Filmski cam caliy deficit
- 37:23podcast hum calori deficit cars and cartner Joeln complex car,
- 37:33simple carbs or complex carbon simple Joe see the q
- 37:37Apco sugar spike. They think whose simple carbs and simple
- 37:44CAINI sucrose fruits but fruit juice co ban my fruit
- 37:58juice woe part of fruit fiber Joe, bacteria Joe delay Joe,
- 38:08movement of boes up the best part of fruit we
- 38:16have taken out or we bots fruit juices for detoxification,
- 38:25for fasting, for dieting, died.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Co coke is better than a fruit juice.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yes, died coke is better than a fruit.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Fasting. I want you to talk about nav fast right
- 38:49tradition scoop, he followed.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Your fruit fasting. I will be happy with that. The
- 39:04bark fruits. Then they go fiber cup concept, diet, fiber
- 39:13fiber j M. Actually they say gut doctor. What they
- 39:24go ra So Pizza company rid Chile by fiber cut
- 39:42bacteria M to fiber or a them a load. They
- 39:48nag northern bloating cut bacteria with the fiber steel cut oats,
- 39:57roll notts flavored all the fruit fasting up charge docsa
- 40:03macu gas I R. So it's a graded method. But
- 40:12I will say that if you are a fiber deficient
- 40:15you don't start with heavy fiber increased career or northern
- 40:25fruit fasting. I think that is the best way. Well,
- 40:29let's make a let's make a coming from a Brahman
- 40:34family saying let's cut all the fried and let's make
- 40:43this navare fruit fast. All all the people listening to
- 40:49us from India today only fruits. Let's do this, but
- 40:51till then let's reach our recommended fiber. In the next
- 40:54two months. I'm sorry, but this very heavy y apple purchase,
- 41:05females purchase or the males. But ye carring your firm
- 41:12silf fruits fast.
- 41:14Speaker 1: A lot of people take silim husk for fiber.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and I got the marketing slum problem.
- 41:27Speaker 1: Variety only fiber rose rose.
- 41:32Speaker 2: As a doctor medicinal use, I will not recommend without
- 41:38talking to your doctor. But goal is silent musk is
- 41:45the is the superman for fiber. Yes and uh provided
- 41:51done right? Provided had with at least three glasses of
- 41:57water and at least three liters of water in a day.
- 42:01Idly add a probiotic to it with curd.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Before me laughter meal sat.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Or the wine l F B P your huski BP,
- 42:16your antiquougulans heart patient and blood thinner soluble fiber to
- 42:24delay that the absorption antiougulent heart to the white charg
- 42:32or age breath test. You were problem a small intersign
- 42:35back to growth. Yes, marian units. When you prescribe someone
- 42:41on social media, the warnings have to be told as
- 42:45clearly the y personally, what's up? Leany arthleen and bloating?
- 42:52You paid or w bil astid to absorb a bile
- 42:59asid to excrete the bi cholesterol reserves, liver ldal, bad cholesterol,
- 43:10glucose absorption. The diabetics lego, They say some of that.
- 43:21Let's sleep on it tonight. I will not react to
- 43:23night Joe Joe club. So is a goal cools it
- 43:33down for a time. So cholesterol mal sugar may help
- 43:38up the vice right up? Enough bloating, now up again?
- 43:45See that much the sugar up. Carrying a fiber paid
- 43:52FULI Yeah, So we have to be smart because fiber
- 43:59is for gut bacteria, and gut bacteria are the future
- 44:03of health. Gut microbiome arch dugby science. But geno, man,
- 44:11fifty percent of my genes come from my father, fifty
- 44:14percent from my mother. Is either E imprint, camera mera
- 44:18gut microbiome, the collection of bacteria, jenka, balance, fiber, fiber,
- 44:27co gut bacteria, colon, colon, valle, jebb ferment, short chain
- 44:33fatty acid, main short chain FASTI acid, carbon tyrate, you, tyrate, heir, patrol,
- 44:43colka or influencer uena, influenza vak gut actually science he
- 44:55to fiber, fibers protein fiber yeah, if not more equal
- 45:04to him, say protein diption Contrying'm fiber diption country m
- 45:10banga barely constitution. I'm an Indian style spectamorial cankle squatting.
- 45:25Speaker 1: But I want to come back to fasting and I
- 45:27want to talk about is intermittent fasting which has done
- 45:30wonders for me. I know people who have gained a
- 45:34lot with intermittent fasting. Intimittent fasting. So agara pic basics
- 45:41ishruk grap sixteen hours fasting, So what should be How
- 45:46should you open your fast? How should you close your fast?
- 45:49And how should you plan your meal?
- 45:50Speaker 2: In the middle, If we're wrong about sixteen eight, sixteen
- 45:53hours fasting eight or eating practically, maybe breakfast gipt corona
- 45:56might not be the correct method. But targeted her deficitor,
- 46:00I would say again scientifically, breakfast skip kernika, skip kernaker,
- 46:08but pela target mirror caloryk smart home to my breakfast
- 46:16may protein and fiber rich kerke surukara or weight loss
- 46:22and actually again man you mirror breakfast Joe popular b
- 46:29two teaspoon chia seeds with curd and three whole eggs.
- 46:34It's name and I was less than fifteen hundred calories
- 46:40when I was hundred and ten cages with the regularly
- 46:46coolna glass of water, luk, the fiber or protein rich cabs,
- 46:56limited meet up cabs, lin fruits, malic complex, next meal, career, dubara,
- 47:07break there, dinner, skip, actual problem, the current day and
- 47:13life dinner to reward ourselves. Hm hmm for me, bought
- 47:21our dinners, Mary life challenge. Dinner is even a breakfast
- 47:27lunch m hm, give my dinner life.
- 47:35Speaker 1: It's also family time.
- 47:36Speaker 2: My daughter to a time table. Sorry, milk. Everyone has
- 47:46to be on the dining table merily because I am
- 47:52the only non vegetarian in my family. Mary wife, nim chicken,
- 48:01wanna start Yeah, Mary guilt chicken. So we are adapting
- 48:09as growing family, but the challenges are real on the ground.
- 48:13We have to be practical. How many breakfast like a king,
- 48:18dinner like a proper man, but incorporate karna or calory
- 48:30deficit maybe rhna calory deficit game maybe.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 48:43Speaker 2: Do meals kip krne or hasar cavory dinner two karna
- 48:53or that is my way to fifteen days or ice cream.
- 49:04I think I have acquired a what do you call a.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
- 49:11Speaker 2: The more thing is I like it more black coffee
- 49:14I'm la Jesus America favorite time. I say so, actually
- 49:23on the ground, real long ativity your coolagin supplement with
- 49:32which naturally with FASTI I.
- 49:35Speaker 1: Agree that I absolutely agree upon. So you're saying, if
- 49:38you're fasting, and if you still feel like having a snack,
- 49:42reach out for a fruit, reach out for seeds, reach
- 49:45out for curd, but don't go for something which is
- 49:48fried or easily available.
- 49:49Speaker 2: Unprocessed food with long scientific food delivery apps. As a
- 50:00as a health enthusiast, I have to discourage them.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
- 50:05Speaker 2: You give Matt Senna concert, I have third party vail
- 50:09supposed been a food delivery apps or restaurant food delivery
- 50:13apps are restaurant concert concert they use or sorry refined
- 50:19oil heart attacks or in m olive oil. Food delivery
- 50:26apps are olive.
- 50:32Speaker 1: Hoby right, olive like that Panino chicken. I am like
- 50:39inal about that. Also that you can't like trust these things.
- 50:46Speaker 2: And they that's the only way they learn hm hm.
- 50:50But whatever whatever we are doing bagar food delivery ap
- 50:56daughter like the things alt so we have to reach
- 51:01there that we are you and I might be an
- 51:03influencer for unknown people, but we are an influencer for
- 51:06a kid. Also, yeah, acquire the cheese. That's true.
- 51:11Speaker 1: So this is a good time to do a doctor
- 51:13versus Internet game right to Internet boltay famous hair trash.
- 51:20So I want to understand what Internet says, but what
- 51:23actually the doctor says as well. Okay, Internet says sixteen
- 51:27is to eight. That means eight hours of eating, fasting,
- 51:31save fat loss guaranteed.
- 51:33Speaker 2: Myth fat loss guarantee hoga agara persistently caloredy depsit mereng
- 51:39sixty or art charged our calory to weight loss to
- 51:44guarantee yousa guarantee her agap calory devisit merenge irrespective, intermudded fasting,
- 51:51intermidden fasting, fasting.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Calorie Okay fasting my muscle loss ho te.
- 51:58Speaker 2: Muscle loss long fast coolhoga but solas sat fasting growth
- 52:06hormone but multiple studies or growth hormone skelt muscle growth.
- 52:12Speaker 1: A myth Okay fasting may black coffee say fast.
- 52:18Speaker 2: Black coffee a scientifically fast the calerin area religiously area,
- 52:25Oh to to black coffee is just coffee with water?
- 52:31Or black coffee was your co life The.
- 52:36Speaker 1: Fasting say autophag twelve urs paper hot debate.
- 52:41Speaker 2: To those are solar Nobel Price, Joe Yeast, we study
- 52:48the or humans limited data persistent solar is fasting long
- 52:54term autopagg activate the well or fasting with the activate myth.
- 53:00Speaker 1: Okay, women go fasting differently approach carnature. Yeah, because of
- 53:04their hortmone cycle.
- 53:06Speaker 2: Uh. Partly correct, because we have practically seen women near
- 53:12the periods suffer from bloating and suffer from different kinds
- 53:16of food festivities, and they do well if they try
- 53:19a hitten trial and avoid some kinds of foods at
- 53:22that time. Even with perim minopausal women. There's a lot
- 53:25of problem with losing weight. Also, to practically modify, I
- 53:31will agree with that.
- 53:33Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, fasting breakern.
- 53:38Speaker 2: We have a cal program. We have to program it.
- 53:48But cheat me will be a program, said m hmm
- 54:00to Siny.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Okay, so sixteen is to eight perhaps a regular ok
- 54:05a bupquake momentum Bungay, you are trying to sort of
- 54:08follow that two years at least I know almost. And
- 54:15then the next stage of intermittent fasting then comes that
- 54:18you start fasting for one day right where you say that, Okay,
- 54:22I'll fast for one day and the rest of the
- 54:24days I will do sixteen is to eight. That means
- 54:26I'm sixteen hours fast eight hours care right. Two In
- 54:32that stage of fasting, would you say keep having liquids
- 54:35if you're feeling hungry. Also, people confuse hunger with thirst sometimes,
- 54:40so we should say that only concentrate on having as
- 54:43many liquids as you can have buttermilk, have coconut water,
- 54:46have diet coke, but don't give in to having a
- 54:50food item.
- 54:51Speaker 2: For buttermilk to fasting. Hours of fasting, but black coffee
- 55:00or diet cop than fasting hair. Scientifically, cal calory the
- 55:09calory running economy, cash flow, Donald Trump cut dollar economy
- 55:16to fasting calory deficit economy. M hmm. How to manipulate
- 55:22calory share market? Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a game
- 55:28we have to learn to play. It's a It's an art.
- 55:31Fasting is an art. To practice fasting, to implement, fasting
- 55:35is an art. The highest form of science is implementation.
- 55:40When art and science meet its fasting.
- 55:42Speaker 1: But you you're right, actually when you say that fasting
- 55:45is an art, because some people are able to fast
- 55:47and do prolonged fasting regulously. For example, Son Wangchuk. This
- 55:54is not the first time he has fasted for over
- 55:57twenty days. He is fasted for over twenty days before also, right,
- 56:01so how is it that some people are able to
- 56:04fast better than other people.
- 56:05Speaker 2: He's a professional hunger striker counterstrip Donald Trum.
- 56:19Speaker 1: They told me that he's a very good patient. They
- 56:22also said that he knows his body very well. He
- 56:25knew exactly what he wanted to do when he had
- 56:27to do it, how he wanted to break his fast.
- 56:29And this is so surprising because even was on fast.
- 56:33I remember covering that and that time. Also the doctor
- 56:35had said he knows his body very well. The minute
- 56:38his and you know, his glucose would drop or whatever,
- 56:41he would know. So these people are very aware of.
- 56:46Speaker 2: Their body conditioning acquired and he's a experience a body
- 56:52symptoms science observe smart logan. They're not normal people, right
- 57:00they are? They are crazy people. You have to be crazy.
- 57:04I am crazy. You must be crazy. Love that craziness
- 57:08when channel is properly becomes genius. Look you look, actually
- 57:15who have out shown their peers so they know what
- 57:20they're doing. It's okay, perfect. So no, Mark is a
- 57:24smart man and he came out fine, good, But the
- 57:29health sector that is something which as a health person
- 57:36you know it should not come to that.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Let's think off a person who stays in the Indian metro,
- 57:42has a nine to five job, has a loving family,
- 57:45has a comfortable life. The breakfast and very proud of
- 57:53the fact I stayed away from that coffee and that
- 57:56cola and all of that, etcetera. But dinner the bar.
- 58:01Speaker 2: Is that okay, calory hm hmm, path g in the
- 58:14it's it's again the same thing. Cheat meal is okay.
- 58:18Some people do it once a week, some people do
- 58:20it in fifteen days like me. But doing it consistently
- 58:25will definitely make you one of the diabetics in our country.
- 58:28We have millions and millions and millions of them. Okay,
- 58:34concert diabetic type two diabetes percentagement CAplus actual fasting basically
- 58:43diabetic river up medically term our permission, diets say or
- 58:51diet dietes opposit rivers, malaria mal malaria to fast. Sting again,
- 59:00if done smartly, can take you off all the medicines
- 59:04GLP one.
- 59:06Speaker 1: You're seeing. Fasting you've done correctly can take you off medicines.
- 59:10That's a powerful statement.
- 59:11Speaker 2: Yeah, because you will lose weight, and loss of weight
- 59:14will generate insulin sensitivity.
- 59:16Speaker 1: Are you then effectively saying that fasting is a kind
- 59:20of natural g.
- 59:21Speaker 2: L P one obviously JLP one normally mm hmm l
- 59:29cells in your proximal small interestin normally up to a
- 59:34flood career with a molecule which is a recomminant DNA
- 59:38molecule into your system Joe, normally who ye abstract abstract
- 59:45terminum many kind of fast things a JLP on by
- 59:48fast things a grell and fast things in normal GLP
- 59:52one but g l P one analogs on the aim
- 59:57to fasting Jo Sarah dive this reversal mam in log
- 1:00:02h b n c normal to g l P and
- 1:00:07h b n c normal h h b n c
- 1:00:10the manica average sugar or sorry, microvascal or macrovascular complicationsnopathy, blindness, propathy,
- 1:00:20kidney diseasepathy, tingling, and the major complication. Divot is the
- 1:00:27most common cause of blindness in the world. Divot is
- 1:00:29the most common cause of chronic kidney disease in the world.
- 1:00:31In India, most common cause of dialysis Y three to
- 1:00:36shma doctor supervision may s G LPNLO or any diet
- 1:00:44or lifestyle irradicate to outside the hospital benar dialysis, kidney
- 1:00:57to g U S influence never publically j l on
- 1:01:03mi mm hmm you the y what the yah or
- 1:01:11g l P one up podcast fast or those MEMBERO
- 1:01:16hypoth Alamus Majaki emotional eating. They say, maybe we can
- 1:01:24teacher to deliver a lecture. So it's my marriage and nurses.
- 1:01:29I'm taking my wife and my daughter law or but
- 1:01:38j l P one pay let Elizabeth movies Crojack. I've
- 1:01:53stayed in three years, so I know. So I told
- 1:01:55my wife she was very happy to emotion to go
- 1:02:00to a place, to go to rome and not look
- 1:02:04for pizza. Yeah, that is what GLP want does to you.
- 1:02:09So it is naturally making you do. So my patients
- 1:02:13go both and you learn.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: All right with that, we've come towards the end of
- 1:02:19the podcast and we play this tricky game called take
- 1:02:22it or trash it. So this is take it or
- 1:02:24trash it fasting addition, all right, let's start with trash
- 1:02:28it fruit juice, trash it, whole fruit ticket kutuka ata.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Uh take it, trash it. It can be taken if
- 1:02:41not if you're not not frying it okay, the.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Roaty kasak there, but careers okay, summer travel trash it,
- 1:02:52roasted peanuts, ticket markhana ticket, alu chip trash it, singh
- 1:03:02take it, chia seeds take it chai vali. But during fasting.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Chini need a ticket chi tsh it okay and.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: Uh ka chotpin nirjel fasting.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: Take it for me. My mom loves to do it,
- 1:03:29my wife loves to do it. I cannot say no
- 1:03:30to that, But trash it for other women. Take it
- 1:03:33for my mom and my wife.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: You don't want them to have a healthy life ofward.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: No, no, no, they won't. They won't agree to me. No, no,
- 1:03:40they're they're pretty very very religious women, both of them.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: He's basically saying, listen to the doctor and not to
- 1:03:45the husband on this one.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: Yes, I think.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: On that note, we have discussed everything possible on fasting.
- 1:03:52And if there were three takeaways, I am, you know,
- 1:03:56sort of taking from this conversation. It is one that
- 1:03:59fasting is actually great for everybody till time you're a
- 1:04:03healthy person and your doctor permits. Second, I'm seeing fasting
- 1:04:07is a way of life, not key mo Dia Klea,
- 1:04:10Cassie Wells, Spam Klea, Yeah, Kisan caperhesive career. It has
- 1:04:15to be a way of life, and if it is
- 1:04:17number three, I'm taking that. At the end of the day,
- 1:04:20fasting is all about calorie deficit. It's about giving your
- 1:04:22body a break and giving your body a break to
- 1:04:26actually do other things. And one thing which by the way,
- 1:04:29I got and my biggest thing from fasting was I
- 1:04:32slept like a baby. I did. I fasted as an
- 1:04:36experiment or as research perhaps for this podcast small and
- 1:04:40I like, I haven't left talk.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: Let's talk on fourth August twenty twenty eight. When you
- 1:04:48have fasted for two days every week like this, and
- 1:04:50then we'll have days some data. But the second thing
- 1:04:53is fasting is also a method where you are saying
- 1:04:56no to things you can have. That's also a way
- 1:05:00of life. See I can have money, but not we
- 1:05:04are allouisit on belt or not drive a Mercedes because
- 1:05:08I don't want to do it. That is not wanting
- 1:05:11to do it, being good with whatever I have. So
- 1:05:13that is also a way of life. So fasting money
- 1:05:17is correlate here, some lifestyles correlate. It's actually learning to
- 1:05:22say no. What's our logan? No to food, no to
- 1:05:34wrong stuff, no to invites, no to pleasing people, that's
- 1:05:41a tricky one. No to validation, Yeah, being self validated
- 1:05:45enough no no, no no is a paragraph.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: Yeah, but say yes to fasting. That's the takeaway on
- 1:05:55that note. Thank you so much for being here. Thank
- 1:05:57you so much for giving us your insights and your
- 1:06:00lovely analogies. This is India Today Podcasts,