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The Ring Didn't Mean a Thing: RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, Claudia dusn't in Blue, It's time to get
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  Speaker 2: into the latest episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: Blue.
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  Speaker 2: You brought up, Shemia, so I want to start with
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  Speaker 2: you on this Shamia meets with Cynthia at Lake Bailey
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  Speaker 2: because Cimpia wants to really understand what's going on with Shemia,
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  Speaker 2: especially her relationship with Portia and why she did not
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  Speaker 2: invite Porsche to Gerald's birthday party. Shemiah explains that she
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  Speaker 2: did not invite Porsche because of the things that were
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  Speaker 2: said and the text message between the two of them
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  Speaker 2: after last season's reunion, and she's like, we're just not
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  Speaker 2: in a good place. Yes, she invited me to her home,
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  Speaker 2: but this is gerald birthday party, and that's why I
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  Speaker 2: invited Dennis because Gerald and are cool and obviously Gerald
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  Speaker 2: and Porsche aren't. And she even said, look, Noche, if
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  Speaker 2: Simon was in the country, he would have been there too.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what are your thoughts on that? Shamia justified for
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  Speaker 3: the fact that.
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  Speaker 2: When you when you when you peel back the layers,
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  Speaker 2: when you zoom back a bit. It is Gerald's birthday, right,
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  Speaker 2: And if you're throwing a party for your for your
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  Speaker 2: your husband should be invite guest list be people your
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  Speaker 2: husband's cool with instead of who you cool with.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a very simple question. Actually, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's complicated at all. When it comes to my home,
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  Speaker 4: I get to decide who the fuck I feel comfortable
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  Speaker 4: in my home.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, that's it to me.
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  Speaker 4: That's the end of the conversation. Okay, it's not Daddy
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  Speaker 4: catch me.
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  Speaker 6: In a bad day. He might not get in either, Like, I, what.
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  Speaker 7: Do you mean?
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  Speaker 6: It's my house? Have you seen my my mc mansion?
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  Speaker 4: And here's the thing, Porscha not to call every Mazata,
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  Speaker 4: but Portion's a non factor in her real life right now,
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  Speaker 4: right her real life does not function with Porsche being
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  Speaker 4: factored in. So I was a little bit confused by
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  Speaker 4: the confusion.
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  Speaker 6: You and I aren't good. My dude is not good
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  Speaker 6: with you.
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  Speaker 4: My dude is good with your former dude though, so
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  Speaker 4: he could come. This all makes sense to me if
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  Speaker 4: we think about it being his party, and we also
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  Speaker 4: think about the fact of inviting me to a home
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  Speaker 4: goods like little dinner party with people on their cell
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  Speaker 4: phones as fake dates. It's not the same thing as
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  Speaker 4: me having a Kenyon celebration from my bloodline and my
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  Speaker 4: man like, that's not the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: One is intimate.
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  Speaker 4: Is just the opening speed for the producers. Come on,
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  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 6: I recognize a lot of those items. Okay, I.
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  Speaker 7: I think some of this stuff came from home.
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  Speaker 3: I love home.
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  Speaker 5: I loved.
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  Speaker 4: Ship from home Goods. So me coming to your little
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  Speaker 4: home goods fat, it's not the same thing as a
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  Speaker 4: Kenyon coming home celebrations, So to me, I know I
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  Speaker 4: can be refer her sometime in this one instance. I'm
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  Speaker 4: actually one hundred percent team Shamia. I invited who the
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  Speaker 4: hell I wanted to my house?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Dustin ross.
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  Speaker 5: One with blue. That Shamia's damn house is sterling. I
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  Speaker 5: believe it's the name of that estate and she can
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  Speaker 5: invite whoever she wants. The problem is that Shamiyah is
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  Speaker 5: ready for war this season, and it's just displaced when
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  Speaker 5: it's not appropriate. Prime example, when she went over to
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  Speaker 5: Lake Bailey to kick it with Cynthia, Cynthia was being warm,
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  Speaker 5: receptive and kind to her. And I know I'm biased
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  Speaker 5: when it comes to Cynthia, but this time I'm just
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  Speaker 5: being matter of fact. She was warm and receptive to her,
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  Speaker 5: and Shamiya was just chomping at the bit almost, I
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  Speaker 5: think would be the best way to describe it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but Joe, I ain't think, Okay, well you gotta do
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  Speaker 5: with you, okay, but I you know, it was like
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  Speaker 5: and every time she would gear up to like she
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  Speaker 5: was just ready to fight, and Cynthia was like, girl,
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  Speaker 5: I really fuck with you for real, like what's going
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  Speaker 5: on type shit? She's trying to level set with her,
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  Speaker 5: And I think that the that's the problem with sh
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  Speaker 5: Meia this season. So I'm with Blue. She can invite
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  Speaker 5: whoever the hell she want to invite. And the party
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  Speaker 5: looked like it was all that, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: So you know whatever, Porscha missed it. But I think
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  Speaker 5: Porscha had an appropriate response whatever, like she don't want
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  Speaker 5: me there, I'm not gonna be there, and until she
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  Speaker 5: flat out has drama with me, I'm gonna be the
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  Speaker 5: bigger person and invite her to my shit.
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  Speaker 7: So Laudia, Yeah, Gerald barely wants to film, and the
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  Speaker 7: fact that he signed the release that day, we got
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  Speaker 7: to jump on it and not cause any waves. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: you're not bringing anyone to here that he does want,
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  Speaker 7: does not one hundred that want to be here because
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  Speaker 7: she has to play safe with him. He doesn't want
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  Speaker 7: a film. So the fact that he allowed a camera
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  Speaker 7: to be there at his party, of course he's not
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  Speaker 7: gonna make it. He probably was like, listen, I'll agree,
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  Speaker 7: but I want that bullshit in my house. Like if
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  Speaker 7: you and your former best friend im gonna be fighting
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  Speaker 7: up in the party, I'm not doing it. So that
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  Speaker 7: was probably a condition of him, you know, allowing the
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  Speaker 7: cameras to kind of be there. So yes, I don't
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  Speaker 7: think Shmid was being shaded by doing this. And I
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  Speaker 7: think Porsche had the proper response, you know, like I
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  Speaker 7: think that was, you know, like they're not in a
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  Speaker 7: good place right now, and maybe give it some time.
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  Speaker 7: You know, when your lifelong friends with someone and you
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  Speaker 7: have a couple of years of some stuff being bad,
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  Speaker 7: who knows, maybe they can find their way back to
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  Speaker 7: each other. And I do think Shmiah is on ten.
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  Speaker 7: I do, but I do think she's on ten because
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  Speaker 7: she's very uncomfortable. She's uncomfortable, like you're on your former
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  Speaker 7: best friends show, right that you know she brought you
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  Speaker 7: in and this is new territory for right. This feel
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  Speaker 7: she's uncomfortable. She's always defending herself. She's always like, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: but that's uncomfortable though it's fred it is, but like,
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  Speaker 7: I get why you're doing it. We may not like it,
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  Speaker 7: but when you're in an uncomfortable place, like that's what
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  Speaker 7: people do when they're on defense. She's overly on defense
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  Speaker 7: and she's not seeing how she's looking when she's doing it.
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  Speaker 7: We are now, But yeah, I wish she would torn
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  Speaker 7: it down. I wish she would be more unbothered. But
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  Speaker 7: she's I think she's such a green reality star that
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  Speaker 7: she's like her heart is very much on her sleeve,
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  Speaker 7: so she's she's act.
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  Speaker 5: I say it a little differently. I think this is
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  Speaker 5: responding to the comments. That's what I think it is.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to look like a punk on TV.
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  Speaker 5: She don't want to look like the way that people.
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  Speaker 5: This lab dog shit, I think has really gotten to
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  Speaker 5: her head, and I think that she's playing more towards that.
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  Speaker 5: So anytime she's in the scene where there's a conversation
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  Speaker 5: that can get heated, her determination is not to lose
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  Speaker 5: an argument. I think that's what the behavior is reading
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  Speaker 5: towards reading ass to me as opposed to her not
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  Speaker 5: being comfortable in the space. Because SMI have been on
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  Speaker 5: TV since the sixties. She didn't have been a cheerleader
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  Speaker 5: for you know what I'm saying. You know, she didn't
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  Speaker 5: have been a cheerleader for the Falcons. Her parents have money,
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  Speaker 5: she's Atlanta Royalty, her husband's attachment she I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 5: like since forever. I don't think the attachment to celebrity
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  Speaker 5: is new for her, is what I mean by since
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  Speaker 5: the sixties. I don't think that she's uncomfortable. I just
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  Speaker 5: think right now, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, listen to what he said. They're always favored though.
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  Speaker 4: She's not just attached to celebrity, she's attached to fan faves.
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  Speaker 4: So she's been fan fave adjacent or a fan fave
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  Speaker 4: her entire career, since the sixty five right since that bus,
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  Speaker 4: so Candy Nimi.
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  Speaker 6: It's always beloved fan.
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  Speaker 4: Faves who she's sitting next to, and then she became
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  Speaker 4: a fan fave, and now she's on the opposite end.
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  Speaker 4: And to Claudia's point, I think her positioning is new
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  Speaker 4: to her. She's not new, because she's long in the
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  Speaker 4: tooth when it comes to the industry, but I think
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  Speaker 4: being on the outside of fan favor is new for her.
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  Speaker 7: I disagree she has not had experience in a starring role.
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  Speaker 4: She has, I'm not storrying, but psychic psychic is still
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  Speaker 4: seen on the scene.
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  Speaker 7: She was like an extra, okay, and I like her.
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  Speaker 7: She being a cheerleader and all that stuff is cute,
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  Speaker 7: but that is in no way, shape or form the
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  Speaker 7: same as being a housewife, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: But you're speaking in the context of housewives, and I
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  Speaker 5: think me and Blue are speaking in the more context
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  Speaker 5: of her life, like her day to day life, like
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  Speaker 5: in Atlanta, the industry. She was funny, she was on
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  Speaker 5: the race, she was on the radio every morning. She
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  Speaker 5: was a cheerleader for the Falcons, and all this before
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  Speaker 5: the Housewives. Also Claudia. You gotta remember she grew up
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  Speaker 5: with a bag. She lived in Atlanta, and she was
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  Speaker 5: a beautiful girl. She always was attached to popularity and
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  Speaker 5: all that shit. So in her life, yeah, although she
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  Speaker 5: may have been a de character connected to the Housewives franchise,
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  Speaker 5: in her day to day life, she's being the ship
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  Speaker 5: that she's not foreign or stranger to the idea of
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  Speaker 5: being popular or the center of attention.
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  Speaker 7: I have to respectfully disagree with you, guys. I'm seeing
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  Speaker 7: people like she's No one really knew her like that
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  Speaker 7: on a big scale. Yes, in Atlanta a few people here,
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  Speaker 7: like people may know her around the way, But there's
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  Speaker 7: a huge difference of being a friend and being a housewife.
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  Speaker 7: That's a huge leap. It's I think there's also a
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  Speaker 7: big difference from being going around Atlanta and being around
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  Speaker 7: rich people. And if you're a cheerleader. I'm sorry, that
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  Speaker 7: is so bottom of it. I'm sorry, she mean, I
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  Speaker 7: like you, but that is not a big deal. It's
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  Speaker 7: really not. I don't care if you and fame and
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  Speaker 7: I was living in Atlanta when I don't want go ahead,
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  Speaker 7: you're not gonna jump, Okay, they are? She wasn't known
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  Speaker 7: like that. She isn't a Shemia, is not comfortable yet
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  Speaker 7: she's not in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: We know we agree.
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  Speaker 6: I actually agree with Clauda. She's not known.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the point Justin is making is popularity,
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  Speaker 4: whether you're a local celebrity or an A list celebrity,
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  Speaker 4: she's not foreign to being popular, and she's not foreign
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  Speaker 4: to industry circles. And when we do hear for whether
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  Speaker 4: it's a B, C or D the rest of the alphabet,
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  Speaker 4: she's always standing next to a Candy, a Nini, a Porsche.
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  Speaker 4: So when we do see her, she's a favor. And
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  Speaker 4: this is the first time that we've been looking at
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  Speaker 4: her where she's out of favorite. So yes, you're right,
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  Speaker 4: she's green, but she's She's also used to us looking
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  Speaker 4: at her. When we do look at her, even if
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  Speaker 4: it's once every six months, usually this hard eye emojis.
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  Speaker 6: Now we got a little stappy Stabby's okay.
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  Speaker 4: She's not used to a little stabby stabbis and the
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  Speaker 4: knives and people being mad at her. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that's why it's a shock to her sister, because she's
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  Speaker 4: used to being loved.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what, Claudia, I don't like you because
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  Speaker 5: we disagree, but us to me, we ain't friends no more.
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  Speaker 7: By standing in.
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  Speaker 4: Saphab Okay, Okay, I want to say, it's a part
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  Speaker 4: of the alphabet. I'm just saying, give me a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of a break.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So this is what I have to say, because
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  Speaker 3: what I have to say.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, I agree with three of you guys to
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  Speaker 2: the sense of my house, my rules. You can't tell
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  Speaker 2: me how to entertain.
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  Speaker 3: Do anything at my house. So I agree with that wholeheartedly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, what we have is this and this is the
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  Speaker 2: This is the This is when the producer Carlos comes
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  Speaker 2: out and and tells y'all what is really going on.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Shemiah.
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  Speaker 2: Was being a real person by not inviting Porsche.
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  Speaker 3: In her home.
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  Speaker 7: She wasn't being a reality star.
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  Speaker 3: She wasn't thinking about TV.
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  Speaker 2: When Porscha invited all the girls and their husbands and
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  Speaker 2: their cell phones, boyfriends, and Porscha that was for the show, right,
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  Speaker 2: it was?
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  Speaker 3: It was it was I'm the star of.
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  Speaker 2: The show on the face of the show the producers
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  Speaker 2: want because this is when every this is more of
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  Speaker 2: a housewife thing. I'll say, I'll say that much. This
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  Speaker 2: is a Housewife thing because on my shows, we don't do.
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  Speaker 3: This as much.
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  Speaker 2: On Housewife particularly, every premiere has to have all the
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  Speaker 2: cast together, and as producers, you you pick which girl
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  Speaker 2: that you want to host the Alcaz event.
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  Speaker 3: Porch was chosen. She's the face of the show. It's first.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not disrespecting any of the women that shows.
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  Speaker 3: Porsche's it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Porscha inviting Shamia was for the TV show and
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  Speaker 2: that was that Porsche was thinking.
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  Speaker 3: Producer to me was thinking white.
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  Speaker 2: And and and that is the think different in terms
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  Speaker 2: of reaction because you got to give kudos to Shamia
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  Speaker 2: for in that moment. And guys on social media, especially
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  Speaker 2: the ones who started watching Housewives five seasons ago, don't
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  Speaker 2: get me started dustin y'all are y'all are judging Shamia
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  Speaker 2: based on the Housewives play of TV.
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  Speaker 3: And what I can share is there's tons of moments
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  Speaker 3: and that's.
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  Speaker 2: Why you gotta give Shamia and Kelly there pros being new.
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  Speaker 3: They're not they're not trying to do anything for y'all.
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  Speaker 2: They're like fuck, they understand that they can't win for
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  Speaker 2: lows when it comes to the audience because Porsha is
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  Speaker 2: a fan favorite. Porsia has a lot of fans, and
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  Speaker 2: they're aware that no matter what we doll, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: like us, so fuck it.
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  Speaker 3: My decisions would be my decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Which is why when Cynthia, I Love you, Cynthia, Cynthia
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  Speaker 2: did try it, when she tried to say, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: what you're going through at in your personal life is
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  Speaker 2: the reason why you act like this, and Shmiah said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just batching energy. Smia is doing what she's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 3: She's being a real person.
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  Speaker 2: If me and Dustin constantly are having issues and the
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  Speaker 2: moment I hit record live as seven ten ish on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: you know I'll be late. I don't have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to cut off me and Dustin's behind the scenes drama
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  Speaker 2: because I'm trying to please the seven thousand and five
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  Speaker 2: hundred people who's watching us now. I don't have the
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  Speaker 2: ability to do that. I have to be a real person.
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  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. In my opinion, this
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  Speaker 2: was the first scene to me where I felt Samiah
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  Speaker 2: was being super honest about her feelings.
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  Speaker 3: Because she wasn't thinking about what the audience wanted to me.
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  Speaker 4: Okasa, I will say she was being reasonable this this scene,
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  Speaker 4: which is why even though I know I've been hard
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  Speaker 4: on Shemia and other and I meant that shit, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm not taking it back. But I said I'm gotta hater, right,
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  Speaker 4: I can admit when a broken clog, and I think
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  Speaker 4: in this moment she was being incredibly sincere and saying
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  Speaker 4: this is more bigger.
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  Speaker 6: Than the show.
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  Speaker 4: I do, however, think that Angela's discernment is proving correct
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  Speaker 4: every episode as we go deeper into the Shemia Cave,
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  Speaker 4: and Angela might need to sell you know, terror cars
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  Speaker 4: instead of fans baby because she saw this coming a
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  Speaker 4: mile away. So I just want to give Angela and
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  Speaker 4: also to speaking of Angela, Angela talking about her mother passing.
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  Speaker 6: Real.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like everybody pulled the shamia and it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: thinking about us with the show.
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  Speaker 6: I think in that moment they.
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  Speaker 5: Were just.
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  Speaker 4: I love that scene over her saying hey, I made
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  Speaker 4: it even though this is the anniversary of my mother passing.
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  Speaker 4: Life isn't fair and everybody put away the housewifer. It
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  Speaker 4: made me tear up a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, this was my favorite, one of my favorite episodes.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: It made I found myself like liking people that I've
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: been critical of on the show seeing them in a
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  Speaker 7: better light. I loved the skating party when they all
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  Speaker 7: had a good time because I'm kind of the two
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  Speaker 7: camps like it's annoying, right, It was dope to see
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  Speaker 7: them be able to do that. I will say, like
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  Speaker 7: with the and Porsha thing or tamia Cynthia thing, you're
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  Speaker 7: seeing someone green in reality in the star position against
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  Speaker 7: a veteran and I'm telling you, I know I can
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  Speaker 7: get drink. It's not making it much. I'm just giving
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  Speaker 7: my perspective as far as like you're in a scene
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  Speaker 7: with a veteran when you're moving as a real person
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  Speaker 7: and not a season vet who's seen myself in three,
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  Speaker 7: four or five seasons to know how to take over
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: a scene and pivot. And I'm doing it for the
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: cameras and the girls that have been there for a
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: while are very very good at that. They're really good
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: at that. You will end up losing it every time.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: It's very hard to win in those scenes, so we're
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: not going to really see how good Tom it can
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: really be for unless you for three, four or five years.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: To give you an example, back in the day, Kenya
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: versus Porscha. I know they came on at the same time,
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: but Kenya seemed like she knew her way around a
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: reality camera a lot better. And I will give this
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: a Porstia. Porscha was operating sincerely in the moments. She's
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: not like Kenya because Kenya is more calculated. Kenya is
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: not gonna just like let things fly by the seat
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: of her pants. Kenya is smart. She's like Amorosa. I
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: can't stand Amosa, but they're very good at reading clocking
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: and giving you the bit you need for production. And
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: I do think Porscha was like getting frustrated with Kenya.
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: I think Porscha really want to be friends with Kenya
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: and and it really you know, it made her more
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: endearing because she was living in the moment. She wasn't
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: trying to produce. And I think that's what SMI is doing.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: So you're gonna go through brow and Kings for a
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: few years. It's not just me giving all this graces, Shami.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: I just get how it can be super successful in
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: music videos and cheerleading and this and the third. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: it's a different animal on that show. That show is
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: not easy, you know me and like suck. I wish
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: I would have read the room better, Like I wish
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: I would have known that she was playing me. I
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: wish I don't know if she like when they take
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: the highway to invite you to the house, they know, Wow,
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: she's taking the high roads. She's not bothered as much
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: she can be bothered. She understands production. She understands production.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I wanted to add context to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: like what the audience is seeing. Because the reason why reality,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: especially as show that has been on for seventeen years,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: is going through this weird phase, it's because and there's
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it, right, but I think the audience,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you guys, have to look at it like when you're
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a vet or nog you operate differently than the new beat.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And the newbie's coming in.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Although, like y'all stated, since the sixties was everyone's favorite
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: plus one, Yeah, everyone's favorite plus one. But I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: what people have to understand too is what me and
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Claudia knows being a part of that that ecosystem.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Or echo chamber whatever whatever, the proper word is is
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the fact that you can watch it and be like,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I will do this, I will do that, blah blah blah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: There is something about being in it that you're sort
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: of like, this is different, which is why for me
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: watching Pinky and Kay Michelle scene that followed that moment
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: was another moment to me, Uh, this is about TV.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: This is not a moment Pinky.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: We'll get to your mantel Jordan later, child, because yeah, right.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: This is how we do.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: I said, yes, she said a legend.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Boy.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: I said, oh that one.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: She's good.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: Hey, cousin, I'm joking.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Think okay.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: Came.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Michelle confides in Pinky that after her and Shamilla left
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Drew at the table in last week's episode, they went
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: out partying.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Came.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Michelle alleged that Shamia's mom had her breast up into
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: her her chin and they were hanging outun til two
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. She said that Shemia allegedly got
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: so wasted that she said something along the lines of
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I really want to be your friend, but my friends
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: don't want me to be your friend. And Michelle interview
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: said she cried, that she cried, and that she's not
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: interested or into candy coated nights. Now to add context
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: to that for the audience, and Dustin, I will get
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to you first for sure. Listen, what we all know
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: is this, and this is the reason why we talk
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: about vets and newbies. Okay, I can literally hear you
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: saying the what we're watching is this.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: We all know which I wish they could break the
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: fourth wall in this, but I know they can't. Is
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: competing networks.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: As you all know, Cay Michelle, Rashida, Rasheeda and Candy
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: are best friends. Toya Rushing who used to be Toya
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Johnson and Toya right was married to Mimph Hits when
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Ky Michelle made those statements against Mimph Hits. Candy is
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: close to Toya. She's also close to Rashida, and we
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: all know that Shamia is close to this particular clique
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta. So that's what Ka Mischelle was talking about. Now,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: with that being said, and I'll start with you, Dustin,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: is it plausible.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Is it plausible that if I'm.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Candy Burrist, Rashida Frost, or Toya Rushing and I'm seeing
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Shamilla courtesy of Instagram hanging out with ka. Is it
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: plausible that perhaps the yeah be careful around Kay, don't
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: get too close to her.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Et cetera.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Plausible and probably did happen. But as a seasoned reality
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: veteran and television personality came Michelle's ass should have known
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: to keep that off the show and that beef has
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: nothing to do with anything that's going on with this
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: cast of ladies. And unless Rashida is gonna make some
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: guest appearances, or Toya Rushing is going to be a
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: friend of the show or make guest appearances, or Candy
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: agrees to come back as a housewife or make guest appearances,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: which we would love to happen, because then here are
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: cooking with gas, right, But unless that happens. Unless that happens,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: what did Monique say on the breakfast club? Name names
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: or keep it on the playground? Right? That don't have
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: nothing to do with the show, and Kay Michelle got
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: to let all that hurt go or at least compartmentalize
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: it in a way that it doesn't affect her performance
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: on this show. Because the combination of introducing that dynamic
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: that we can never see resolve from, right, because none
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: of the players are on the show. So the combination
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: of that dynamic, plus her refusing to participate in scenes,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: plus her refusing to expound on the theories of the
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: plot plan and scheme and all of that, it is
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: adding up to something that's not enjoyable to watch. And
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: I thought the dig at Candy was stupid because Candy's
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: not even in this She's not even on the show.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: So that's how I felt about it. I knew it
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: was coming. I knew in my mind that ky Michelle
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: was going to find an issue with Shemiah based on
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: that shit with Candy and Toya and Rashida and them.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: But I was hoping that by the by merit of
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: her experience in the reality TV space, she wouldn't make
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: that decision. But here we are, so it was dumb.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: It's another thing that we're never gonna see the end of.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: There's no way to tell the story, you know what
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. And if Tomia said that to ky Michelle,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: this is all her fucking fault, because why in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: fuck would you tell her, Hey, my friends don't want
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: to be your friend. You ain't that damn drunk yr
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Mama was there, so we can't even blame it on
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: alcohol like that. Who get drunk? That damn drunk in
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: front of their mama? Who In the last scene, the
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: last time we saw Shemia's mama, she was praying on camera. So, Shemia,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: if you just chose to say that to kme Michelle,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: thanks a lot, Samiya, because now we have to deal
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: with this ship. That's another fucking riddle. She might as
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: well wear a green jumpsuit with black question marks all
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: over it and then purple eyed things and be the
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: damn riddler, because another fucking thing we're never gonna figure out,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Like just more ship that doesn't make sense to the audience,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: and it's so frustrating.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Give me a deathly message, like why would you do that,
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Sma girl? Why you do that? Like it's not maybe
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: you were drunk, I don't know, but why would you
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: do that? And I agree bringing canny and listen after
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: episode three with Chemis show flop. Every week I see
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: like the homeless Simpson meme, we just slide? Is it
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Homer sliding back?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: Miche, she's right here right now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's singing in the national anthem on the way out, Like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: Don't like the thing she's doing. She's not engaging like
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: she should think that they're not. It's just jointed issues
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: and it's everything that she's very paranoid. She's very, very paranoid.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: And I just thought like it's funny that the producers
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: left in that dig get Candy when you know what
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I can do to get Candy in on this Like
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: it's like they're making it, they're showing her. It's a
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: little bit of.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: And I want you to finish. I think it's smokes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: Signals to get her to come back on. Maybe mm hmm.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: This is no shade at all. This is the season
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Candy needs to be on. Yeah, back and you got
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Kate Michelle. I think to Dust's point, producers, I am
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm having an orga in my chair the way Tricia
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: did when she spinned the block.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I am telling you we can get Candy breaking off
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Arashiita and Toya and came Michelle the same show with.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Pay per view. They wouldn't be be on Bravo. It'd
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: be a special peacock add on.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Can we just and I'm gonna I'm gonna be a
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: broken record into the season finale.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: I think as of last.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Week it's official. I'm gonna keep reminding y'all. Angela Oakley
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: got cussed out for saying this three weeks ago. I'm sorry,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: more and more down to this episode. Every single time
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: came Michelle is acting like the lady in the train
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: talking to the empty chair. Somehow Shami is in the horizon.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: The pattern is getting louder and louder. I can hear
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the saxophones at this point. Every time Ca Michelle is
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: about to embarrass herself. She just finished talking to Samia.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: It just so happens that this time she was drunk
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: at the clerb with Mammy's city's up making compassions. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: don't think think this is and maybe I'm alone. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: don't think this is the first time that Samiya has
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: done a by the way, let me tell you something
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: devastating so you could cry, like a jobs video afterwards.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I think she's been getting intel from Shemiah, like Angela's hypothesized,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: and that Ky Michelle is starting to think, because that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: said it right, Ky Michelle is a little paranoid, all right,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: a little paranoid. Cam Michelle's thinking, well, why are you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: always the one bringing me the bones?
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: You were bone?
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I think she's starting to clock that Shamia is bringing
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: her so many bones, she's starting to judge them. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I think we're about to watch even in the preview,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: she's gonna turn on smiir for being her source. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: think so too so blowing to ky Michelle so much.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Chemachelle is starting to look at her crazy, like, bitch,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: why do you always have some tea?
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: Then?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: And then I get into the street and I argue
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: with people and I can't tell them. You tell them now,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: look like it's like the crazy lady on the train station.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I think I think Shemia has been sharing more than
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: just this, and I think the stuff that we thought
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Shemiah was telling Kelly, I think she's actually telling ky Michelle's.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I think she knows that ca Michelle is a big
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: dog and thought this team makes more sense with ky
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Michelle than with Kelly, and poor Shamiah throw her some bell.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think she realized that that came to show
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: wasn't tight.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Wasn't wrapped all the way tightly.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: So she planted the seed.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: And a big old we grew that she wasn't expecting.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think she expected it to be handled this sloppily,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: which is why in the preview she looks stunned when
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: somebody says, oh kay, Mishelle, are you good with Shamia?
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Shamia is like, when did we have problems?
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Did you?
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Next? Sidebar I was playing Caelle's More Issues in Vogue
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: album earlier. That album had some ship on it sleep
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: like a Baby with My Ship and all I got
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: I love that song came and Shell got some shit
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: in in her catalog for real, for real.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: And Shemiah got some shit in her house because Kelly
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: unfortunately has to move outout her house because she had
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: issues with her neighbor.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Wait wait lost lost the shit in her house is Kelly? No? No, no.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Her house because Kelly had to move into her townhouse.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: She as we learned this episode, Kelly is moving out
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: of her house she got into her neighbors. We did
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: learn from us Weekly a few months ago that the
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: neighbor was complaining of noise and.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: A bunch of other stuff. She also said the houses
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: have bad memories. What she was going through her husband,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: well now ex husband, and Shmia has a townhouse that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: she received did she said she bought this before she
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: got married.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: She said after she got married. It was one of
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: her first investment properties she bought me.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, and ladies, when you marry a rich man by property,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: not just handbags.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, so you don't end up in an apartment like
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Kelsey's dumb ass on Real Housewives of Rhode Island. How
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: the fuck you willing with a guy like that? And
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: you leave and he paying the lease for your apartment
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: instead of buying you a fucking house. Dodo brain, the
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: elevator is not making it all the way up right,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: But let's go ahead, Carlos.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, what started with you?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Not the other word? I saw you catch yourself. But Claudia,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: what did you think?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Because I think this was a scene where we are
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: learning a lot about Kelly's personal story, but we also
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: get to see how close friend should we are in
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: real life.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: This episode I really felt that they have, well not
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: just this episode. I really do think they have a
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: real friendship outside of their issues with Portia. I do
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: feel that way. I don't think you can figure this long,
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: and it does. And I am glad to see that
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: because I don't like friendships where oh you don't like her,
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: you don't like her. Okay, let's be friends and whether
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: or not it started like that, it doesn't feel like
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: that now. And I do like that. I do like
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: seeing that there does seem to be some real friendships
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: women I'm not. I do think they're both operating like newbies,
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: which is good because that's when you're gonna get the
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: most authentic takes from them. I think, you know, And
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: I do like that Kelly is like not embarrassed to
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: share embarrassing stuff about her and as much people as
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: much people made, people said they were getting annoyed by
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: her and like her. We need more of that. We
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: need more of that, like love or hater. I'm down
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: for anyone that's want to show us some vulnerability on
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: this show, whether whether it's annoying, whether they're want to
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: be your faves and not face. We need that and
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: I like that, and I like that I like that
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: for Kelly. So for that, and and and some of
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: the newbies, we're doing that. I mean the events we're
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: doing that as well too. This this episode had everything,
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: It had everything.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Blue, I think it's amazing that we're gonna see
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Portsha I'm not worship phaser in court actually doing lawyer
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: stuff and winning. We haven't seen that in a couple
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: of decades. So the fact that she's reaching for s
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: as she's reaching for a fare, it shows that she
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: does have a sisterhood within Calls.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: I will say this, though, I.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Hope that she's not just the friend that everybody's coming
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: to help, and that we see a different story for
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: her next season. I don't want another season of this,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Like Claudia's the point, she is doing a great job
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: opening up, but it feels like the divorce was like
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: lowercase this season. Now it's her major storyline outside of
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: one the knuck if you buck with Portsie season number two.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I would like her third season to be less this
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: and more of something where she's centering herself, because it
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: still feels like she's latching on other people's stuff and
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: she happens to be going through a divorce with somebody
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: who's meaning her. I actually want to see Kelly win
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: because when when she hit on the show, she was
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: supposed to be like this chicken and waffle like Pinky,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: she supposed to be like this big restaurant tour, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: then we haven't seen her in that light, and I
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: kind of miss seeing Kelly in that light. So yes,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I'm happy she's sharing her bad days. I just hope
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: she has some more good days for her storyline.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with both of y'all, Claudia and Blue.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: I think it is signed for some triumph in Kelly's story,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. However, I think Kelly is
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: having a strong This was a strong episode for Kelly.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: His personal story is what it's all about. And seeing
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: her seeing Fadr gift her that was sincere. When Faedro
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: was like, so this is my gift to you, like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: that was sincere. I loved seeing that. I love seeing Samiyah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: you know, provide this option for housing of Kelly. You
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I thought that was dope as fuck.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: They're absolutely real friends and this is the real shit.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that to me, if you're
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: gonna show somebody going through a divorce on television, it
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: can't just be you know, I'm going to the divorce
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: and when we sit down and then and we talk
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: about how I'm just going through divorce. No, we're seeing
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Kelly literally go through the divorce, moving out of spaces,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: talking about the elephant in the room, which is her
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: not being able to fill with her mind, her children.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, all that kind of shit,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: So shout out to her for keeping it real and
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: being like, no, I'm gonna give you all the real
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: of exactly what's going on in my life, even if
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: it means I cut y'all out at Fader's dinner party
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: because I'm just fucking handed today. You know what I'm saying.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: I think Kelly deserves some praise for that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah for me, No, no, no.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm gonna say because listen, that's why I
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: don't even engage on Twitter anymore when it comes to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the reality, not the real ones.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: You know, y'all know, but a lot of y'all leave
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: me alone, y'all, don't.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Just because somebody is clocked in at your fave doesn't
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: mean they should get fired. It doesn't mean they should
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to mean dm that you send them. You guys want
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: a boring show. All y'all want to see is y'all
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: favorites do nothing. Y'all love somebody on the show who
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: gives y'all nothing, but yes, what really gives y'all absolutely nothing, y'all.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I love her and that's why she'll stay on. You
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: have someone like Kelly, and I love Kelly. I'm friends
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: with Porsche in real life. I can sit here and
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: say Kelly is great for the show because she activated
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Porsche ye.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Her show to be good.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Porsche appreciates someone like a Kelly to activate her the
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: way she did because that means Porsche can run up
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: the check next season.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: You guys are stupid. You guys are less and smart.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Y'all don't even get and appreciate the villains or the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: people your faiths don't like because they actually making the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: show better.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Kelly, and I agree with Blue. When Kelly got.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: On the show, she was seen as like this chicken
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and waffle house maven right, and unfortunately what we're seeing
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and maybe this's a conversation another day, but I just
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: got to be honest. I am I got I am
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: kind of over seeing the storyline and this is nothing
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: against the girls. I am over the storylines of these
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: girls coming in with this empire, and then by the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: next season it's it's it's it's gone, and it's sort
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: of and I think what Blue is saying too is we.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Were sort of like level on devices.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Uh, well you were this when you first got on
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and now you're this, and I'm my head around and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so confused, and I'm not keep breaking her name
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: up because to me, she is one of the best
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: who's done it in terms of business is Candy Candy
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: cabbsolutely and everything.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Was like this.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And even when her was like this, her businesses always
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: did this, while her person like torpedo. And one thing
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: we loved about Meani when she got on Meani started
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: here and then.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: We saw like, what the fuck this woman? Yeah, over Hollywood,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I want some of that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And you know, as we're looking at this season and we,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: unfortunately unfortunately are seeing what and Kelly are going through,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: and my heart goes out to them. I do understand
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: what blues coming from, which is like I, I do
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: want to see more wins. And while I appreciating honesty
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: in terms of the feled businesses, I don't with the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: narrative to be that these black amount of housewives all
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: come on the show and next thing we know they're
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: filling for bankruptcy or something happened with their business. Because
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: it's like I lived in Atlanta, Keana Watson listen, in
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: terms of black women who really do have great career
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and I want to see more of this, and going
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: back to Kelly, I appreciate Kelly for being honest, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that's why I love Shemiah, because Shemiya yes.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Cheerleader, Hawk's game, all that shit.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I like seeing a black woman living a soft life
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: because she don't have.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: More of that.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: I think they put a lot of pressure self imposed
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: to come in there as it's bigger than life, bigger
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: than they really are, and then it falls apart because
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: you really can't maintain it. And I would like the
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: show to be more open to women, not starting at
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: the bottom, but at a starting point where they don't
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: have to feel it. They are coming in and fake
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: it for the cameras or make this I'm this and
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: I'm this huge mogul when you're really not, because then
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: we had to be sad and watch them fall apart
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: in the show. And then they all live behind above
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: their means. We all know this. I've said this many times.
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: People feel the pressure to get in above their heads,
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: ranking clothes and and doing things for the show when
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: they really can't maintain it. Especially that first and second
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: year salary. Y'all, it's like crazy until three, four and five.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: That's just how it is so I.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Got you there and because you bought up salary.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you guys are tripping about Drusidora's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I'll say alleged.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Because she didn't say anything.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Her alleged salary twenty six thousand dollars an episode or
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: a twenty episode order where she works for three months
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: out of the year. She's been on the show for
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: five seasons. Juice of Dora, finally, in my opinion, is
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: now getting the flowers. Because let's be clear, y'all didn't
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: like her until last season. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I don't
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: like y'all. Y'all don't like New New New Housewives. Yes,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I did too. I didn't like her caller Perry scenes
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: in the beginning.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: But I.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Love her this season. Love her this season, Yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: I love that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: You're right, that's a lot of fucking money you morons like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: and that's her base.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: That's the base. Then there's the bookings that the higher
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: elevated money you get because of that. You may make
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: four five hundred thousand dollars there, but then you may
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: match that and make more outside of that with all
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: the bookings. That's just what happens, And to Scoff, at
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: twenty six. You know, people on network TV a lot
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: of I'm a starting at that with a weekly rate. Yes,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: it goes up to one hundred thousand, a million, all that,
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: but like a twenty five twenty six thousand dollars an
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: episode feet is not a bad feel.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: At all, especially when your ass ain't making it about
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: it was broken. They didn't have nowhere near that. We're
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: not saying in nobody, you know, but like that was
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: that was ridiculous to me, that kind of talk, Like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: what do you mean that's she's happy with it. Obviously
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: she's continuing with the show. I think if she felt
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: it was too unfair, she wouldn't be on the motherfucker.
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: You know. So people making two episodes her to her
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: two episodes scenes for per year maybe three talking about
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: what she's getting every week is crazy to me. Yeah,
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: black woman, It is always difficult for us in this business.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: Housewives is one of the better ones people fling.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: For forty five hundred.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm saying we start off the show with somebody
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: flexing over four k for.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: A baby give them yeah, yeah, being a whole Yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: all right, But I.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Love how Pinky and Montel Jordan's.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like I say this every week and Pinky
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: you know I love you.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: But Pinky once again cut the ship. I'm tired. Yeah,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: ready for that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: I was still slipping.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: What happened? I'm Pinky?
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: Stop stop, she's another one.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: You guys all have a Rollodex? Oh yeah, we all
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: have one.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I have all these, said, she's going into the bushes.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: That's why she had to.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I have two billionaire cell phone numbers in my phone.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: One of them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: You all hello, I'm not saying names. Claudia Denise Jordan's.
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: Angela is my little name.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Actually, that's tell.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I have billionionaires in my phone.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I he he he said that jail.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I have in the worst of I'm not gonna
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: say her name because she's canceled.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I hey, god, was some fabulous people?
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: Does that?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Did you know that? In New York City?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: The thing is this.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I literally just told you guys two years ago that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: one of my best friends is Teak of Sumter, because
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I never wanted y'all to know that until we did.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: We did our podcast last year. She was like, bitch,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: doing your podcast, and I said, oh gosh, this is
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: gonna be weird because now people want to know my business.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: But my point is this is your first season.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Matld Jordan, who I appreciate as an R and B artist,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and I'm not here to did somebody to up?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I love his song What's going on Tonight? That's my favorite.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: What's the other two?
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: You like the Midnight?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Claudia not we only know two.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Don't do this.
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: You lore really good and young. He has not aged.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: He looked this.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: That's right.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna need Pinky to put down the roller decks.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: We got the toury naw in last year Milano the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I mean not last year. Last week we had the
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Tory and whatever. Last week before had Milano. Then before that, like.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: We had worried, we had morey on the show. Because
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: if you have pump, my thing is this. I'm more
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: interested in what you and Derek are talking about. What
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: happened when you did you low key?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you turned down the five million
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: dollars that he.
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: Offered your husband in five episodes.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved him.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: That was the peak of your fucking season so far.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: And that's let me see something. A lot of us
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: fade for US season three because of Apollo. We said, hey,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you want to see this man what y'all going through,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and we love their dynamic. I strongly believe that there's
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a dynamic because let's.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Have a conversation and y'all gonna like this, and that's fine.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I am ninety nine percent right. The thing.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: Wait minute, wait, is that a factor?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Because there's an exception to every rule?
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: Okay, go ahead and glue.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: You know I'm right when I say this.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Anytime that's a power couple, there will be a power
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: struggle in the relationship.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I care more about what is it like the fact
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that you two have these businesses and let's be clear,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: one of.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Y'all or both.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know yet because I'm too busy seeing celebrity appearances.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: One of y'all are in competition with each other. That's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: what happens, and that that's the quiet part we're gonna
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: talk about out loud. That the storyline I want to see.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I don't give two fucks about Manta Jordan marrying you,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: counseling you, the repeuting you.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Who gives a fuck? I care more about what is
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Derek like at home?
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: Dude?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Who who's with the kids while y'all are working. Is
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: there a woman in the basement that could be the.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Nanny and and something else by night?
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Does she play a dual role? Does she get two paychecks?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: These are things I want to know.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see any more celebrity appearances.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of that. Give me fucking fir flu. I'm sick.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I am over it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: The moment in my and I'm gonna say this, I
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: can't talk about no more and this is this is
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: no shade. I fast forwarded the scene because I was
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that sick of seeing it, So.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Well, if we're being honest, I hate marriage counseling scenes anyway. Yeah,
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: I hate it. That's why Shamari and Ronnie Duvaux made
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: me fucking sick on this show every week. Hey man,
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: it's just it's just married, man, it's just married to
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: something else. Man, you got to stay together. Man, I
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: don't be wanting to see all of that shit I've
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: had it just be fucking married. So I don't want
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: to see nobody sitting down to talk to nobody. I'm
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: so glad kneeling them. Ain't mentors on Loving Mary Tounsville
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: no more because I hate seeing that shit. You got
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: qualified professionals that do that, you know what I mean.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see no damn. I hate that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: It makes me not want to fucking get married, and
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: not because it looks hard, because it looks corny. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: there's that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I quit after four months.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: So anywhere respect claude of respect?
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: Hey man, I know, listen, I get off the train
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: if I see not going to the proper stop or
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: I get off. I don't need to say a word.
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: So anyways, you dropped the bomb show with the husband.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: I don't know how many episodes ago. It was a
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: long time ago where he wanted to help you out
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: of the bankruptcy, the five million, and then we never
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: see you again until you with Montell Jordan. That is crazy.
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: There should have been so many a couple follow up
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: conversations like that's a man that like, we want to
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: see that and that is not something to tear them up.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: That is actually a dope dynamic. We don't really get
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: to see that my baby's going through bankruptcy and her
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: feeling like her pride is in the way of taking
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: that money that could have been a really good I would.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: I think she'd be less, like it's not annoying all
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: these fights. I think she's graspeding, like these fights she's
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: having and being on ready and on ten all the
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: time in the in the group settings. I think it
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: would balance out her persona on the show. If we
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: can see some moments with their husband, it would make
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: her more valuable because right now, you're right, all these
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: death appearances, it's lazy producing. Oh you got Montel Jordan
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: this week? Okay, who you got next week? That's lazy.
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: Dig into her story about her and her husband. We
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: don't get to see that dynamic much on other reality shows.
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: Let's see it.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I think, sorry Blue, no, sorry, Blue, Dustin won't do this,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: and either should he.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Pinky has a good looking husband.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Like like and that's why I brought up Apollo, like,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: we don't call them what it is. We watched these
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: shows to see eye candy too. So the fact that
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: we got Derek hay fine ass on the show Nope.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: Ranked the husbands from finest to Lea's fine us.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I want to gerald Derek hay.
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: Ellen is that?
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, Charles Oakley, m h.
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: Is there any husbands left yeah, no, there's more No
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: Michelle's husband.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Oh girl, Sorry, sorry, I'm so sorry. Wow remember me different,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, or you not to be drinking to
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: like Clauda, you are bestie.
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, Blue, Okay, I just forgot my father, Like,
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: what are you talking about?
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: No?
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I please?
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: If that was not supposed to come out, claud I
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: will say this.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Whenever Carlos I've known, you know, I like to look
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: at patterns. Whenever Carlos starts spitting and getting mad and
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: looking like he wants to flip the table to Judis,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: it's usually because one of the girls is not being
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: vulnerable and she's leaving good story on the floor. And
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I and so I've learned this about whenever he gets
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: mad starts spinning and taking off his glasses because you're
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: sucking up the.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: Show right, his producer's senses are tingling.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I wonder Pinky confess that the soft and vulnerable part
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: of her, you know, the part that we like, is
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: the part that she's the least comfortable with.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: What did that?
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: What did they always say? Even when she mean did
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: that shady word association game? And then they said Shemia,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: She said ted.
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: Talk, She.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Said that Pinky always wanted to give you a tech
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: talk about something. She's always talking. I think she naturally
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: is more comfortable when she's bossing people around, ted talking
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: doing Maya angelwis peaches. Somebody asked for booking Mantel, the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: first show that nobody booked her for, like these producer
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: muscles that she feels blue.
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: Dustin comment, the Queen of Atlanta, the queen of.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: The show, her and her boom No, but seriously, she
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: she's comfortable in that kind of boss bitch thing. But
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: I think the calls this point the thing that we
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: want to see the most. I think it's partly the
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: thing that she wants to show us the least, the least.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: And Carlos she felt exposed that scene that we loved.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: I think the manue felt her pants were caught down
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: aroun her ankles.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: No blue, thank you for saying that, because the thing
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: is and and if y'all ever watched my interviews with
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Claudia Cynthia Porshanini, they would say to you that this
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: this version y'all think of me is how I am
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: with my girls, because I I when I see potential.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: So Pinky, listen, they're gonna say I try to drag you.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I see so much potential in you, Pinky, and I
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: hope this part is the part that that you actually watch.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're leaving so much on the table
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: because I literally said, ask them the first few episodes,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all are stupid.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: She's everything, She's grey, y'all are whatever. I defended you.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: And.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I was rooting for you, and now I'm like, you
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: have Pinky. Of all the girls on the.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Show, Pinky has the most potential for personal story because
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by the power struggle that I know they have.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated about, like the dynamics of your man doing
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: all of these amazing things, and you're at a place
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: in your life at that time where you're going through
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: these struggles. I want to see more of that. My
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: favorite scene with Pinky was her with her attorney, was
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: her with her husband crying. I thought that, I'm like,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Pinky her everything. Pinky being producer to me,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: she's too busy trying to produce her own story. Instead
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: of saying, guys, I signed up to do this show,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: y'all tell me what.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I need to do.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: She gonna come back, she's gonna hit you up, she
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: gonna send you a voice message like she did Angela
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: at that table.
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: You know what.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Okay and Picky, Uh, we'll talk next season. Okay. One
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: thing I want to get into is I thought it
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: was a fun seeing guys. It was Drew hosting Phaedra,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Portia and Cynthia at her home. Again. This episode was good.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that much drama, but it doesn't always have
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And I think this episode just showed us like the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: dynamics and I thought Drew with the girls were hilarious.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Question for you, Claude the uh because you've been around
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: them in person several times.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Phaedra said that people always said that she looked like
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: a toury.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Cynthia said, is this two thousand and six Phaedra for
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: two thousand and two six Phedra because with this wig
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: she has on, I.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Don't see the Tury.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Claudia, you've been around Phaedra in person, you're the best
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: person to ask this question to do you think Paedia
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: and a Tury look alike?
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: Why are you're setting me up again? I literally you
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: know I have Tourette's when it comes to her, like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: it's hard for me to like not say the thing right?
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: Does she look like that? She looked like dur the
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: Explorer in this episode with the wig with the you
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: know ding did it d ding thing? That's what she
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: was giving. I don't know. I think Pedra has.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: A Blui's crazy.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: What is this show? Go ahead, Claudia, you tried, You tried.
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: Did really good by offering free winning legal services. I
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: think that was really awesome. I think that was great.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: So you're sticking with the positives.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: But but does she looks like noty is the question?
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Though, friend in I liked miss, I'm like, what does
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: guy do? What the hell?
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: No?
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: She don't look like no God damn Phraser don't look
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: like no fucking the touring nod at all? She does not.
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: I didn't do it. I didn't go there.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Look Over's brother does look over?
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: So think it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: She don't look like no fucking the Touri don't look
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: like phaedr or Pinky. Okay, the tour don't look like
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: one of them. I don't know. And and Phadr and
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: Pinky don't look alike. None of them look alike. They
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: all are pretty I think I think.
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: In Pha's mind, Phaeder really feels like she's like Nami Campbell.
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: In her mind. She had a modeling contract for a
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: while she was with Wilhelmina. I believe you know she's
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: trying to everything, and I think that's great. I think
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: we should all aim for the stars like we should.
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: We should think highly. Okay, listen, I'm trying to do better.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: They know you did excellent, the excellent Blue to Lousma.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: I do want to ask you this question.
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: Yes you should.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: During that scene, this one thing came up and Twitter
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: went the blaze. Obviously, I want all of you guys
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: have answer this. Let me start with Blue Juice. Dora
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: was recapping what was going.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: On with.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: With Kay, Michelle and Shamia and what happened.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: In the previous episode where they all said down they
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: left the table to see the national anthem in the
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: car Juice, so Dora said that Shamia brought up Porsche
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: and kept wanting to talk about Porsche. The fans went
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: crazy on Twitter because they said Drew was lying and
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: they felt that in this very moment, if if that
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: could slip through the cracks, they really are now saying, hmm,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: have we been giving Samia a hard time because we
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: do feel like now with Cynthia bringing up Shamiya, Drew
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: bringing up Shmia to Porsche, that are they're the ones
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: really trying to create an issue because Shamia did not
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: bring up during that moment.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Well, first of.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: All, I'm still stuck on what Natoria was thinking when
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Pinky said, you're gonna blame me.
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: What Dustin said, it's still just like You're right, I
• 57:51
  Speaker 8: don't look nothing like you. I'm still stuck on that.
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: But shout outs to Natoria. Check is a check, A
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: win is a win. Yes, shout out to my friend,
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: to the friends of the show. I actually don't think
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: Drew is lying.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I'm actually wondering about the edit because I also caught
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: when Shamiah told Cynthia in that earlier scene, Drew kept
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: on bringing up Porsche.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: So Samiah and.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Drew both agreed that Porsche came up a lot and
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: we didn't see that, which means the producers probably cut
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: it out for redundancy or whatever else. So if both
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: women and are agreeing that Porsche came up a lot,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: but neither is agreeing who brought her up, I'm not
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: sure we can say Drew was lying because they both
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: agreed she was brought up a lot and we didn't
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: get to see it. Not to be semantical, Sally, but
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: that moment of Drew saying and then Shemia is saying,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, everybody's saying, Porscha, Porsche, Porsche. But I
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: went back and watched the episode all side skim Michelle
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: abandoning her bag to go find her a uber, so
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: we missed the Porsche of it all. So who are
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: we to say that she's lying because clearly Porscha's mentioned
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: way more than we saw on the edit.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: That's my honest answer, Datin.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: The problem is that Porsche is being brought up by
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: Shamiah to Porscha and Shamia is not being brought up
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: by Porscha to Shamiah. They need to talk to each other,
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: and until they talk that shit out, they gonna keep
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: bringing Porsche up because it's the elephant in the room.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Everybody knows that they fucking hate each other right now,
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: and nobody's talking about it, and since they refuse to
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: sit down and talk it out or whatever, and I
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: guess we're gonna get that in Scotland, which I can't
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: wait to watch. But until that happens, their conflict and
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: their disagreement is gonna be brought up because they're all
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: around each other. So let that go. People are gonna
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: bring it up. That's how I feel about it.
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm one hundred percent certain that they're both
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: being told. People in the cast are being told to
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: bring up Porsche to Shamiah and bring up Shamia to Porsche,
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: and that is what is happening on this show. You
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: get your notes before you go inside there, Hey, make
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: your points, but make sure you bring up Shamiyah. Hey,
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: make sure you bring a Porsche and then it's caught
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: to make it. I think both the ladies are trying
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: to not talk about each other on camera, right because
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: you see Porsche last week. Kudos to her for saying, look,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: I'm not I'm gonna excuse myself. That was another veteran move.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna excuse myself about the scene when you talk
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: about my former best friend. I still think that was
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: a very good reality TV high IQ to do that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: Shemia has been trying too later in these episodes now
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: to finally catch on and do that where she's like nope, nope,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: I'm not talking about No, I'm not. She has done
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: that a few times now. She hasn't been perfect at it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: She still had does engage sometimes, but I think that
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: she's trying to do that, and so I'm gonna give
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: both those ladies kuda for trying and that you're right
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: down something they need to be talking because all that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: stir in the pot. You know, it's stirring the pot
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: every single week, and then we can say, oh, we
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: hate Shmia, so the whole hate Shamia training because it
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: looks like she's messy boots bringing a portra al time
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: when really you see on this episode, I don't know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: maybe maybe it's not what we think it is.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: And in the spirit of Season six of Real Housewives
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: of Atlanta, bring their mamas to the reunion, Tan be
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: in bring your Mamy Blue. I'm telling y'all bring Porsa's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: mother and please bring to me his mother to reunion. Yes,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: please please.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: If you're watching Bell Collective, stay tuned because Carrie's mom
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: and her husband Matt's mom, they get into it and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: everything Dustine is saying is what he's right.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I want to see both mothers.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: The thing is this, we know miss.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Diane for for seven years season Sportsmen on the show, right,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: is the prettiest mama of all the shows.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: Gorgeous, beautiful, and.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Then we're learning more about Samia's mother. I do agree
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: with Dustin. I want to see that too. The biggest
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: thing that happens episode. By the way, I do have
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: a note from Dennis McKinley. So, as we all know,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: recent news is ju so Dora and Ralph Pittman's divorced.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: His final the custody she has to give him child support.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Ralph posted a message on his Instagram page where he
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: shot at out Dennis saying thank you for recommending the lawyer,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: which was a crazy move because we.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: All know that Dennis is his artist is drew as
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: a journalist.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, Porsche, I wanted to get a statement from Dennis
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: McKinley about that particular comment before we get into the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: scene to him.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And Porsche, and he gave me permission.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: To read this to you guys based on how he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: felt being throw being seen as being thrown under the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: bus by Ralph. He said that when it comes to Ralph,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: he did reach out to him and they had a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: private conversation. So he wanted us to know that, and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: that when it came to the Drew thing, when it
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: came to Dennis referring Ralph an attorney, he already told
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Drew that he gave the referral, so it wasn't news
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: to her, and that is what he wanted to clear up,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: that he wasn't trying to be shady. Drew knew about it, and.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: That was that.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: Okay, Well he should have gave that lawyer.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, First of all, Ralph is a mess Why would
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: you even put that in your fucking caption. That don't
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: have ship to do with Dennis and portion in their
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: business and the affairs. Those are affairs between them that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: are personal and they don't have nothing to do with
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: the whatever whatever you're celebrating in your message, And that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: would have pissed me the fuck off. I would have
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: went down the basement and cuts his ass out. I'm
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: telling you so. I didn't like that. That was stupid.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: It's fun. This is all Ralph's fought, all of it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: his thought.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Speaking of messy, we got to get to Dennis bringing
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: the engagement ring to get back to Porsche. This listen,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I y'all know this about me. I love it when
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: our vets are surprised, right. Worsha was shocked that Dennis
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: in his tight jeans, they were so tight, like he.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Brought out the ring.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys noticed this, because
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I know I'm too close to it because I know
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the girls. But the reason why I gave kill her
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: tense is because when you shocked Porsche, Porsche gives this look.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Did y'all notice that, like Porscha has a look when
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: you know this is not what she expected?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: And she was visibly upset that Dennis not only said
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: to her right that, first of all, you gotta be
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: careful who you're dating. He knew the marriage wasn't going
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: to work. He was just waiting for it not to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: work before he pretty much said I told you so.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: And then he brought the ring to her today because
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: she's been asking for it years months ago. He gave
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: it to her, and all hair broke glues started with
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: your Claudia, what did you think about that scene between
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Dennis and Porsche, which to me was like one of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: the realest scenes I've seen a Porsche since season six.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: It was nice to see her not be produced and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: not producing and it made her be more like relatable,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: like and it made me think, damn, there's still a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: lot of love they left for Dennis, and is she
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: been holding out for him to like reap pose her. Yes, yes,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: they answered, Yes, that's who. That's the love, that's who
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: has our heart right there. And I was trying to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: at first when I was wanted to like whom, I okay,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: we just be able to favorite who am I mad at? Who?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: Who?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: Then I'm like, okay, if I still cared about someone
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: that proposed me, and I really, in my deepest heart
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: of hearts, I really want to be married to him.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: I want him to repropose me. And you came and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: you threw the her. Oh hey, hey go your ring back.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: I would want to fight him. That was very mean
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: to do. That was mean. At first I thought he's funny,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: he's entertaining, But that was kind of mean, especially if
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: you know that this woman still holds a place for
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: you in a heart that she really does maybe still
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: like want to be with you. And it seems like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: they've had these conversations about bringing the ring back, and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: I feel like she wanted to be presented back to her,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: not in a way of like people might as well,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: take your ring back, but in a different way, like
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: fighting for her. I think she wants that as a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: fight for her.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: I thought that was I thought it was kind of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: cruel and I really felt for a portion that scene.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: I really did. And I don't even know why he
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: did that to her, because I do think he loves
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: it too bad. I don't know why he did that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: to her.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: The viral moment, Claudia, he did that to her because
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: she went viral for being on stage saying that she's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: dating right now, he and she, and it became a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: huge moment. Yeah we good because think about it, she's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: seen her with other people before, but this felt extra
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: nasty after that she made that announcement, and it starts
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: with her saying, oh, I thought I was shouting them
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: out by saying I'm whittled it down to my two faves,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: but I'm recognizing I pulled a Porsche, and I didn't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: think about how it couldn't have been a shoutout because
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: now that both finding out about each other, then he chose.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: But the very last scene also, I saw that post
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: too about you dating a woman and a man, and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: it's almost like you embarrassed me so I want to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: embarrass you. It felt like a lick back because I've
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: been with and I think we have this in common.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: I've been engaged before, and when you are someone who
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: has been engaged to somebody but you don't go through
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: with it, there's always this feeling of is there another
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: version of reality where we actually ended up together? And
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: I do agree with Claudia that you can tell that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: in that moment. It's almost like watching a being painfully
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: ripped off of somebody. I think that moment is what
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: freed her for her current relationship. I think it took
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: him being that callous and that insensitive and that means
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: spirited as a response to her making the announcement about
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: her dating a he and a she for her to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, I have to let this go. I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: don't ever want him to make me feel like this
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: ever again. Because the ring being given back to women
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: in particular, it signals that the last bit of hope
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: is dead. That was a funeral. We just watched a
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: few of a relationship on camera. I for you to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: bury our relationship with the cameras rolling.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: It's mean, and it also made me get out more
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: grace and actually more empathy for Portia. It was some
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: of the moves that she's made that made her look
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: kind of like fast off the chain, a mess, like
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: all over the place with dating this one, dated this one.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: She's trying to replace that love.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: She's trying to her endgame.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: She she wants Dennis so like, you know, you've got
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: to try to try to make your ex jealous by
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  Speaker 7: jumping in something with somebody else that Simon things. She
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  Speaker 7: wasn't feeling Simon like that. That was to get back
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: at dinner. Then he say right before she got with
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  Speaker 7: Simon that they were talking about getting back together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And she said, in December, you were supposed apply
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  Speaker 4: more pressure and you did it. Why she said, in
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  Speaker 4: response to me, say, I'm dating two people. You didn't
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  Speaker 4: apply a pressure in December when you told me you
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  Speaker 4: were going to So I kept on dating and met
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  Speaker 4: these two people. She's been waiting on that man and
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  Speaker 4: he picked the worst possible way to bury it in
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  Speaker 4: front of.
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  Speaker 7: You want him to come. She wanted him to come getther,
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  Speaker 7: especially after they broke her heart cheating when she was pregnant.
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  Speaker 7: She wants him to come get her the right way,
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  Speaker 7: and he he was on some he diminished that in
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  Speaker 7: that moment that was I thought that was me.
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  Speaker 3: That was hurtful Dustin Ross.
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  Speaker 5: Dennis showing and giving the ring to portion on camera
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  Speaker 5: forces them to talk about the then getting back together. Basically,
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  Speaker 5: Dennis imports our co parents so they can function as
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  Speaker 5: co parents and never entertain the idea of them getting
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  Speaker 5: back together. But him presenting her with that ring on
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  Speaker 5: camera forces the conversation. And I think that's what his
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  Speaker 5: intention was. I don't think he's tr and I hurt
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  Speaker 5: her feelings. I just think that he wasn't emotionally intelligent
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  Speaker 5: enough to understand that it would trigger her in that
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  Speaker 5: way and the memories would there and hurt her feelings.
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  Speaker 5: And also, Dennis no better than that. He's from Detroit
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  Speaker 5: and he should have had a haircut it least, if
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  Speaker 5: you're going to broach the subject, you could have had
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  Speaker 5: a lineup, Dennis, And you know better because I didn't
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: seen you with a lineup. You just had one at
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: the conference. I've seen you had a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: so you knew you was gonna film. And I think
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  Speaker 5: it was a last minute thing, and I think it
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  Speaker 5: may have been motivated by that coming to you. She
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: had a Culture Kan which shout out to Culture Khan.
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  Speaker 5: I had a great experience moderating on that stage. So
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: I love Culture Khan and the team over there. But
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  Speaker 5: that's what that was. Dennis loves Porscha and Porscha loves Dennis. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they got it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm gonna say the question I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: have for the three of y'all. Y'all can answer at
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: once or whomever. Based on this scene alone, do you
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  Speaker 2: think and Dennis both are in love with each other?
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  Speaker 5: Yes? Now, here's the thing. Dennis fucked up and he
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: embarrassed Porsche by cheating on her while she was pregnant,
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  Speaker 5: and that is something that is very hard for people
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  Speaker 5: to get over. And the humility element. He's a great
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: father to their daughter. Their daughter is well adjusted, thriving,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: and beautiful, so he's definitely handling his business as a dad.
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  Speaker 5: I think that the humility element is what we don't
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  Speaker 5: see and he needs to gravel if he wants to
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  Speaker 5: get Porsha back, because she flat out said in this
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  Speaker 5: episode in a perfect world, yes, I would love for
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  Speaker 5: me and Dennis to get back together and be together.
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  Speaker 5: Make the world perfect.
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  Speaker 7: Nigga I think Porscha is in love with Dennis. I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: think Dennis loves Porsche. But if you're in love with someone,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know about cheating on them and embarrassing on
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  Speaker 7: TV like that time at the time. I don't know
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  Speaker 7: about that, you know, But I think he has a
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  Speaker 7: lot I do. I think he loves her as much
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  Speaker 7: as he probably is capable of. But I do think
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: that they do still want each other. I do.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I think.
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  Speaker 4: This is tricky because this one feels like something I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: go through way more than I would like. I think
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  Speaker 4: that Porsha's in love with Dennis, and Dennis loves Porsha
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  Speaker 4: as a person and is in love with how much
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: she's in love with him. There are men because think
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  Speaker 4: about Porsche. Porsia is a unicorn who a lot of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: men want. And I think there's a part of Dennis
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: that is very flattered and emboldened by the fact that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: the girl that everybody wants wants me and I care
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: about her and she's her brother and I admire her,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: which is why I can easily let her marry another
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: dude in X, Y and Z. But don't embarrass me
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: too much because my egos still gets stroked knowing that
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: I'm the one that you ultimately want. And I think
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: that when Porscha said, and this broke my heart because
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: I relate to this too much. And they even had
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: the flashback shout to the producers and the editors, she said,
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  Speaker 4: what do you mean, Damn, they came to get you.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: I picked the ring. I'm the one who sent this
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  Speaker 4: me together. I was the one making plans right. A
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: lot of men and Claudie, I know you can relate
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: to this when they see the woman that nobody can
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: get say I want you, nigga use it.
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  Speaker 6: There's a high that comes from that.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: That's not love. It's attachment and ego that gets conflated
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: for love. When it's attachment tether to fondness and co parenting.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: I think he cares for her as a person, but
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: I think the only person who was ever in love
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: was Porsche, which is why at Dustin's point, he's thinking strategically, like,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: you're meant to stroke my ego. You made me look
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: stupid at culture car On talking about you gotta he
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: is she a day and the others. I'm gonna do
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: this little lick back to force you to said men.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: How much you want me on camera? Oh shit, you're
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: in love with me? Go out, you're crying. I didn't
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: better this. I didn't eve get a haircut for this.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Let me dip on out and put my pants up.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Like when you like somebody but are not in love
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: with them, you make those reckless mistakes because you move
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: without intention, And so Porsia didn't want him to gravel.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: She wanted him to finally be intentional. And ladies, I'm
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: gonna tell you the thing my therapist sold me last week.
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  Speaker 6: Chiut.
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  Speaker 4: He likes you, but not enough to do anything about it.
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  Speaker 7: He's not gonna change. She's not gonna change change.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: She was like, you enough to do anything. There are
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: men in this world who liked you, just not enough.
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  Speaker 7: The way he klew that ring would have pissed me
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  Speaker 7: the hell off, the way he like with that big
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  Speaker 7: ass ring, and how you just were so cavalier about
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: it and was just like, hey, you got your little
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: ring back. What she she should have put hands on
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: him like she did, can you that's came and asruffy
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 7: ass beard.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: Hearing fallout, he was wrong for that.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 7: Dennis that was And then some people to come and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: saying is it is it real? The fake? I think
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: it was real. And she looked genuinely hurt that.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: One hundred as somebody who knows her and work with her.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: There was a she she she she looked shocked. She
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: cried on the spot. That's why they kept in the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes moment. She wasn't talking to her assistant
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Lauren when she said did you.
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  Speaker 3: Know about this? She was talking to the this is like,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: did you yeah? Talk like.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I know por Let's be quar Portia cuts their asses
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: out because in her mind she thought like, y'all send
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: me over my own house with this motherfucker doing this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: to me. And I think Dennis I didn't think about this,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to ask Dinnis about the Porsche,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: thinking that's that's just that's just too much. I do
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: believe I don't think about this until y'all said it
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: as women that perhaps he definitely was offended.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: When she went on Culture Conn and said, I'm dating
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: a woman and a man.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: And I think there is and neither one of them
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: was him.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying. I think I could.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I could definitely see that, and I think I think
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: blues right, I do think in some weird way what
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Dennis just did drove her more to sway.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, they keep getting licks back every time one of them,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: so that's like someone else too.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: They sway here be lined up.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: Oh ship, she should refer her barber.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Then it's to be having this shit together. He just
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: it was off day, you know.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: Then goes married Simon. She breaks up with Simon. He's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: a house waiting for you. They dangle, dangles the ring.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 7: Maybe won't get together. Then he messes that up and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: she runs the sway and the other guy he's a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: non factor, the actor guy.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm dB page up. He's happy.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that moth night chain. You tried it with
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: that chain. You know, I'm a diamond. I'm a diamond
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: master night.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: Room.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: We wouldn't a diamond tester will test positive, but it's not.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: We ain't know about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there you go, but no, I thought this was
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  Speaker 2: a great episode. Shout out to the team, looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to next week. So love you guys, Love you Claudia,
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  Speaker 2: and I will see you guys next week.
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• 1:17:21
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