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Speaker 1: It's the reform it tonight while nationals MP's are meeting
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Speaker 1: as we speak to decide whether to break with a coalition.
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Speaker 1: We'll bring you first Anthony Alberinizi telling another astonishing lie
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Speaker 1: that we can also tell us a lie, what is
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Speaker 1: going on with him? But it is the coalition today
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Speaker 1: that summer ends up in strife, with three front benches
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Speaker 1: forced to quit. Plus d Day tonight as Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: meets European leaders who've sent soldiers to stop him taking Greenland,
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Speaker 1: and we'll also talk about how immigrant criminals help explain
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Speaker 1: by nation's massive rise as a new poll today. But
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Speaker 1: let me start with something quickly, very different. The ABC
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Speaker 1: has learned nothing from the Bundai massacre, to judge by
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Speaker 1: its divisive new TV show really is just in time
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Speaker 1: to trash Australia Day and to promote the tribalism that
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Speaker 1: stearings apart. Here's how the ABC has promoted it. Hosted
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Speaker 1: by proud gamleroy Man Tony Armstrong always was tonight is
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Speaker 1: sept to decolonize the news. Now decolonized news. What on
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Speaker 1: earth does that mean other than make every topic about
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Speaker 1: race with whites casts as the baddies as Armstrong has
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Speaker 1: suggested in the past.
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Speaker 2: This country still can't accept that it's a racist country.
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Speaker 3: This country, you still can't.
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Speaker 2: Accept that it's built off the back of slavery, It's
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Speaker 2: built off the back of dispossession, It's built off the
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Speaker 2: back of rape and pillage of Indigenous peoples.
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Speaker 1: Now, why does the ABC's stress that its host is Aboriginal,
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Speaker 1: as if that is his main qualification? Aeeli now reduced
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Speaker 1: to racial stereotypes, and it gets worse. The ABC continues,
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Speaker 1: landing squarely in the ongoing national conversation. Around twenty sixth January,
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Speaker 1: the special brings a fearless First Nation, lends to the
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Speaker 1: stories that is shaping the country, and it may be
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Speaker 1: perfectly clear what the show does think about Australia Day
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Speaker 1: and the nation itself. The ABC's promotional video for this
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Speaker 1: new show goes like this, concluding with Armstrong pushing over
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Speaker 1: our flag.
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Speaker 4: My fellow Australians, there is nothing more Australian than coming first,
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Speaker 4: and I should know I'm a first Australian.
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Speaker 3: We don't just love a winner, we love an underdog.
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Speaker 3: We love the bloke.
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Speaker 4: I only played thirty five games in the AFL, but
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Speaker 4: still got a TV career out of it. We love
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Speaker 4: sunshine days off swearing, and we flip and love our
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Speaker 4: flipping mates, but we also want afraid to stand up
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Speaker 4: and tell them all to get stuffed. So join me
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Speaker 4: in January twenty one as we do just that, taking
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Speaker 4: aim at the headlines that have taken aim at us
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Speaker 4: always was tonight I showed two hundred and thirty eight
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Speaker 4: years in the making, We'll be building Bridges was a burning.
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Speaker 1: Bridges joining Armstrong, who's an ABC personality and former AFL footballer,
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Speaker 1: will be modeled Brooke blurt who's also identifies as Aboriginal
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Speaker 1: despite having an English father and a mother who's had
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Speaker 1: both Malaysian and Aboriginal ancestry. Now Blurton too is against
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Speaker 1: Australia day as is so fashionable, of course, and it's
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Speaker 1: domned that as a constant reminder of pain and brutality,
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Speaker 1: even though this country has given her brilliant opportunities allowing
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Speaker 1: her to become a star of TV shows like The
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Speaker 1: Bachelor and The Bachelorette. Now Tony Armstrong was asked to
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Speaker 1: explain why we needed this taxpayer funded grievance show for us.
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Speaker 5: I think it's a great opportunity to talk about some
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Speaker 5: of the issues and just what it's what it's like
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Speaker 5: being blackfellows, and also, you know, gives us the opportunity
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Speaker 5: to speak on our own behalf, which is quite often
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Speaker 5: one of the voices that's missing.
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Speaker 1: Well, Armstrong has had very many opportunities to speak on
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Speaker 1: the media, But which blackfellows lives does he think we
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Speaker 1: should be learning about from this? Is it like being
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Speaker 1: what it's like to be a Tony Armstrong raised by
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Speaker 1: a white single mother, only find fame and fortune as
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Speaker 1: an AFL player, ABC presenter, Logi's Winner and Eurovision Song
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Speaker 1: Contest commentator. Well, if that's a very typical average in life,
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Speaker 1: I'm blind, deaf and dumb. Yet Armstrong's take on politics
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Speaker 1: is one that we must apparently treat as the blackfellow's
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Speaker 1: one rather than just the peculiarly Tony Armstrong view of
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Speaker 1: the world, even though I have average acquaintances who vehemently
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Speaker 1: disagree with him on Australia Day and has absurd stress
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Speaker 1: on racial identity. I just really wonder if this is
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Speaker 1: what the ABC thinks we need after the Bondi horror,
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Speaker 1: a show that does reduce Australians to racial stereotypes, divides
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Speaker 1: them into tribes and then sneers at one of the
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Speaker 1: most free and rich nations in history. Surely the lesson
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Speaker 1: of bondas we urgently need to remind ourselves of what
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Speaker 1: unites us, what is bigger than our tribes, and to
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Speaker 1: promote a mutual love of this country. I think it's
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Speaker 1: absolutely urgent now that we reject the identity politics that
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Speaker 1: is dividing us into warring tribes. Bondo showed us where
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Speaker 1: that leads. But to the chaos in the coalition today. Well,
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Speaker 1: Opposition leader Susan Lee, she's been the scapegoat, but she's
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Speaker 1: not actually the leader who most stuffed up and caused this,
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Speaker 1: which could in fact lead to a split between the
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Speaker 1: Liberals and the Nationals, this time for a good at
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Speaker 1: least until the next election. Susan Lee is in the
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Speaker 1: gun after three of her cabinet shadow cabinet ministers had
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Speaker 1: to resign for breaking rank last night, breaking cabinet solidarity
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Speaker 1: voting in the Senate against new laws giving the absency
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Speaker 1: government extraordinary powers that ban hate groups without even a
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Speaker 1: court process. Now, the shadow cabinet had decided to back
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Speaker 1: these laws, but shadow ministers Bridget McKenzie, Ross Caddell and
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Speaker 1: Sissa McDonald refused, and the convention is that you cannot
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Speaker 1: break covenant solidarity and keep your job. And they knew,
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Speaker 1: they knew that most likely have to pay that price.
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Speaker 6: I'm more than willing to take my medicine should it
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Speaker 6: be the case, because I don't want to I don't
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Speaker 6: want to blow things up.
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Speaker 7: But I'm very aware of the conventions of Parliament and
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Speaker 7: I will be doing what I've always done is trying
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Speaker 7: to do my very best to conduct my career here
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Speaker 7: with integrity.
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Speaker 1: Either now, I think Lee would have done better refusing
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Speaker 1: to accept the resignations of those three rebels, especially because
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Speaker 1: the leadership team now seems a rabble and she has
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Speaker 1: lost even more talent from her front bench. But I know,
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Speaker 1: I guess she felt that she'd be seen as weak,
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Speaker 1: including by many Liberal MPs, if she didn't punish the rebels.
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Speaker 1: But she now looks hapless now that she has. So
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Speaker 1: Lee's in strife when she's already struggling in the polls.
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Speaker 1: Big trouble. But here's the bottom line. All these rebels
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Speaker 1: are in fact members of the Nationals, so the focus
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Speaker 1: should be most on the Nationals leader David Little Proud,
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Speaker 1: whose party has disintegrated under his leadership. It's been astonishing
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Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, first Little Proud had MP Andrew
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Speaker 1: g quit the party to sit as an independent. Then
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Speaker 1: just in a Nampa, jimper Price quit the party to
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Speaker 1: be a liberal, and even worse, Little Proud treated headline
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Speaker 1: magnet Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime Minister, as unwanted trash,
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Speaker 1: almost forcing Joyce to now join Pauline Hansen's One Nation.
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Speaker 1: What an own goal that turned out to be for
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Speaker 1: Little Proud, because Joyce has since given One Nation more
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Speaker 1: depth and credibility, helping it to soar in the Polls
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Speaker 1: News poll this week said One Nation was now more
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Speaker 1: popular than the coalition. Well, that of course has caused
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Speaker 1: National politicians through panic, a lot of Liberals as well,
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Speaker 1: but Nationals in particular knowing if they don't stand for
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Speaker 1: the conservative principles they will be decimated by One Nation
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Speaker 1: at the next poll. Well. In fact, Joyce on this
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Speaker 1: show last night, as you may have seen, confirmed that
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Speaker 1: another Nationals MP, Colin Boyce, had been considering joining him
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Speaker 1: at One Nation. And now these three rebel senators have
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Speaker 1: quit his front benches after voting against the shadow cabinet line.
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Speaker 1: Influential backbencher mc canavan, who is the only other National
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Speaker 1: in the Senate, also voted no, as he also explained
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Speaker 1: on the show last night. So boy, it is a
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Speaker 1: little Proud who has created this mess, who's most unable
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Speaker 1: to get discipline over his team and has been unable
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Speaker 1: to work out some deal here with Lee to save
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Speaker 1: the coalition or to hold back one Nation. Yet Lee's
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Speaker 1: enemies in the Liberal Party are going to snipe at her,
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Speaker 1: But I'm going to ask which of Lee's leadership rivals
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Speaker 1: would have done better. Andrew Hasty back tracked and actually
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Speaker 1: voted for these laws that the National's rebels oppose, while
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Speaker 1: Shadow Defense spokesman Angus Taylor, the other main rival, he
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Speaker 1: was conveniently absent for the vote. So who knows what's
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Speaker 1: going to happen next? Main will the Nationals now figure
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Speaker 1: that the best way for them to hang together as
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Speaker 1: a party is to split with the Liberals? But this
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Speaker 1: time for good. They're holding a party meeting this evening.
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Speaker 1: And I suspect that his topic number one, what a
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Speaker 1: lucky turnaround for prom miners Anthony Albanese, he'd be savage
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Speaker 1: for not tackling jew hatred until it was too late,
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Speaker 1: for rejecting any royal commission in the Bondo massacre until
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Speaker 1: it was too hot, and then pushing for sinister new
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Speaker 1: laws against free speech onto force to drop them. But
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Speaker 1: he's the one that now ends up crowing crowing over
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Speaker 1: the coalition disaster. And yes, Susan Lee will pay the price.
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Speaker 1: But it's a little proud who broke most of the China.
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Speaker 1: Now what must really kill Susan Lee is that Albanezi
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Speaker 1: meanwhile skipping lightly from one extraordinary light to the next
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Speaker 1: that I don't know if you've noticed. But today again
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister denied hed yesterday blamed former Preme Minister
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Speaker 1: Scott Morrison for the jew hatred under Albanesi's watch.
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Speaker 6: You presided in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four
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Speaker 6: over three hundred and six sixteen.
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Speaker 3: Percent rise in antisemitism.
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Speaker 6: Can mister Morison really be blamed for a way of
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Speaker 6: antisemitism that you presided at I didn't mention him at all.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, If you watched last night show, you know that's
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Speaker 1: completely false. Let me show you again here is Albanesi
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Speaker 1: just yesterday indeed, mentioning Morrison by name.
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Speaker 8: Despite the surge in anti semitism on their watch, did
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Speaker 8: the Morrison government.
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Speaker 1: Did the Morrison governor.
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Speaker 7: Appoint a special envoy to combat anti Semitism?
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Speaker 1: No, and that attack was also dishonest. Of course, incidents
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Speaker 1: of due hatred exploded under Alberanzi, and he ignored all
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Speaker 1: warnings about that as he actually fed it by turning
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Speaker 1: against Israel and even recognizing a Palestinian state, which was
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Speaker 1: a decision praised by three leaders of the Hamasteris Group
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Speaker 1: and Scott Morrison post a Zinger noting he's seeing the
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Speaker 1: difference between them, saying harmas never praised the actions of
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Speaker 1: my government, albow, but they did praise yours. We go back.
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Speaker 1: Alban Easy today denied what he plainly said yesterday that
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Speaker 1: we will see him, saying yesterday that is just weird
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Speaker 1: and it reminds me how he lasted. He also denied
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Speaker 1: what we all saw again that he fell from a stage.
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister, we saw that you fell from the stage,
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Speaker 9: and says not this afternoon, are you okay?
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Speaker 10: No, I stepped back one step.
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Speaker 11: I didn't fall off the stage.
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Speaker 9: It looked like it looks like you went down I'm
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Speaker 9: glad to hear you're okay both, Thank you very much.
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Speaker 12: Just one leg went down, but I was sweet.
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Speaker 1: Just the other day, Albany's again denied start staring reality
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Speaker 1: one we'd all seen for weeks when he finally called
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Speaker 1: the Royal commission into the Bondo massacred but then hadn't
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Speaker 1: backflip claimed he hadn't just spent more than three weeks
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Speaker 1: saying we shouldn't actually have this very same royal commission
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Speaker 1: like here, how have you.
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Speaker 11: Lowered the temperature by refusing to agree to a royal
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Speaker 11: commission for this many weeks?
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Speaker 3: This hasn't been done up this morning. We have been
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Speaker 3: working on this for weeks.
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Speaker 8: I have been engaged with the community extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: Join me as the political panel. Camera Milner, former chief
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Speaker 1: of staff, the labor leader Bill Shorten are now director
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Speaker 1: of g xo's strategies and Michael Cossa forming new South
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Speaker 1: Wales Labor Treasurer. Michael starting with Susan Lee accepting the
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Speaker 1: resignation of three frontbenches, all National Senators who voted against
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Speaker 1: the legislation to band hate groups. How big a problem
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Speaker 1: is this for her?
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Speaker 8: It's a massive problem. Andrew, a massive problem. She's in
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Speaker 8: real trouble. I mean, she's been hopeless on this issue.
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Speaker 8: Those laws that went through last night are a disgraceful
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Speaker 8: abrogation of liberal principles. Let's not kid ourselves. She didn't
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Speaker 8: know what she was doing. They've ended up with laws
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Speaker 8: that have got massive unintended consequences, and we're going to
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Speaker 8: see in the future activist courts interpreting those laws to
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Speaker 8: the detriment of people that want to have a rational
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Speaker 8: debate about many issues, but particularly Islam in this country.
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Speaker 8: And you know, this is a disaster for her. I'm
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Speaker 8: surprised more people didn't have the gumption and the I
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Speaker 8: suppose the moral fortitude to actually take a stand against
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Speaker 8: these laws. I congratulate those three National MPs shadow ministers
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Speaker 8: and also the other one because I think that's the
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Speaker 8: right decision. In the long run, this could actually save
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Speaker 8: the National Party. It allows it to draw a clear
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Speaker 8: distinction between really bad laws, really bad leadership, and at
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Speaker 8: least people that are prepared to take a stand. Of course,
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Speaker 8: there's the one nation issue that they have to deal with.
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Speaker 8: I think one nation will pet her out over time.
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Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of votes being parked there
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Speaker 8: to see what the new Liberal leadership will look like,
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Speaker 8: and hopefully it'll come soon so they get themselves back
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Speaker 8: on track because we need a good opposition.
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Speaker 1: Cameron Milner, Well, I think Lee's terminal.
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Speaker 13: I think, you know, the last few weeks she's given
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Speaker 13: it back to Albo. Alba was under huge pressure, as
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Speaker 13: we said, about the Royal Commission, about Bondai everything, and
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Speaker 13: she basically hand him a win this week for bad laws.
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Speaker 13: To your point, Michael, you know they were terrible last week.
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Speaker 13: They're pretty appalling the stuff they got passed through the
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Speaker 13: Parliament with no scrutiny. So she basically blinked and she
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Speaker 13: gifted it to Albow and unfortunately may well split the
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Speaker 13: Coalition in doing so.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, maybe Cameron, she was terrified that
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Speaker 1: there'd be another terrorists attack and the Liberals will get blamed.
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Speaker 13: Possibly Andrew, But I don't think the law fix that,
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Speaker 13: because at the end of the day, it's about leadership
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Speaker 13: in this country. We've got to call out the Islamic clerics,
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Speaker 13: the g Hardy's, the hate preachers, we've.
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Speaker 1: Got to call them out from the top of the leadership.
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Speaker 13: The Prime Minister of the country has to call out
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Speaker 13: Islamic terrorism and then we might start dealing with some
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Speaker 13: of the cause that the potentially are there allegedly for Bondai.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we've got to enter. It's not
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Speaker 1: about the laws.
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Speaker 13: It's about the leadership of this country and people calling
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Speaker 13: out what's really at fault in our country right now.
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Speaker 1: But Michael, do you think the coalition could now split
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Speaker 1: the Nationals and meeting right now? They might figure, Look,
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Speaker 1: the whole thing is so bad, the pressure from one
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Speaker 1: nation is so intense, so they can't afford to be
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Speaker 1: yoked anymore to the Liberals and have this kind of
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Speaker 1: thing happen to them where shadow ministers feel obliged to
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Speaker 1: split from the shadow cabinet line.
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Speaker 8: Well, Andrew, if that happens, it happens, because here's the
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Speaker 8: bottom line is they're going nowhere under this current leadership
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Speaker 8: and under this current coalition arrangement. I mean, the very
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Speaker 8: fact that they couldn't hold Albo accountable for that outrageous
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Speaker 8: comment about Morrison that you just referred to, it just
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Speaker 8: shows you where we're going on this. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 8: this is not about gun laws, This is not about
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Speaker 8: hate speech. This is about a government that has for
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Speaker 8: the last two and a half years, you know, facilitated,
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Speaker 8: you know, almost encouraged by its absence in the debate
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Speaker 8: a radicalization of elements of Islam. And let's not kidd ourselves.
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Speaker 8: We go back to that dreadful decision to recognize the Palestine,
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Speaker 8: you know, I mean, based on all of those conditions
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Speaker 8: that not one have been met.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he should suspend that.
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Speaker 8: I said that when this happened, he should suspend that.
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Speaker 8: In addition to that, there needs to be a debate
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Speaker 8: about you know, not just radical Islam, but some of
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Speaker 8: the positions that are clearly in the Qur'an, clearly in
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Speaker 8: the Soura, that's the biography and the hadiths. We need
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Speaker 8: some of our Islamic clerics, the ones that claim to
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Speaker 8: be moderate, to abrogate these, to renounce them, to make
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Speaker 8: sure that the environment is one that doesn't allow for radicalization.
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Speaker 8: Now we've got the universities, Andrew, what are we going
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Speaker 8: to do at the universities. We've got andy colonial you know,
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Speaker 8: ideology hate ideology fueling a lot of this anti Semitism.
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Speaker 8: Are we going to put some provisions in that somebody
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Speaker 8: from the Jewish Communich can address some of these courses,
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Speaker 8: so they can put the other perspective, or we're just
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Speaker 8: going to let it go on and blame a small
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Speaker 8: fringe for all of the problems.
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Speaker 1: I think that's all good points. Kareron Milner, What did
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Speaker 1: you make of Albanizy today saying I never mentioned Scott
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Speaker 1: Morrison yesterday when we all saw how he'd attacked Morrison.
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Speaker 1: I mean this is just pathological.
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Speaker 13: Now, well, Albert couldn't lie straight in bed Andrew. I mean,
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Speaker 13: this is the problem, and this is the albow, the acrobat,
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Speaker 13: you know, the triple pike and double backflip and thinking
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Speaker 13: that none of us watch probably not many of us
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Speaker 13: do bother watching because you know, whatever comes out of
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Speaker 13: his mouth isn't worth but that much these days. But honestly,
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Speaker 13: I mean he takes us all for fools if he
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Speaker 13: thinks we weren't watching what he said yesterday and what
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Speaker 13: he said today, And it's a pattern of behavior. This
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Speaker 13: bloke lied about the seventy five dollars powerker, he lied
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Speaker 13: about other things and then in absentia doesn't do enough
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Speaker 13: about anti Semitism as the leader of Australia. So no,
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Speaker 13: this bloke's should be held to account at a better opposition,
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Speaker 13: even a moderately better opposition, would have him on the ropes.
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Speaker 1: Just out of time. But Michael, sorry, Cameron, I just
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Speaker 1: want to ask you to commenter Michael's prediction that the
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Speaker 1: one Nation support will peter out, that they're just parking
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Speaker 1: the vote there. Do you agree? No.
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Speaker 13: I'm from Queensland and Paulie Hanson has been a feature
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Speaker 13: of our politics since nineteen ninety eight. She's been around
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Speaker 13: a long time. And Barnaby Joyce has put rocket fuel
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Speaker 13: under their vote.
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Speaker 1: I think this is going to be very very interesting,
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Speaker 1: of course, to the both of you. I reckon the
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Speaker 1: longer those votes are parking with One Nation, the longer
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Speaker 1: people will be comfortable with that choice. So if this
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Speaker 1: going to be a change in the coalition, it had
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Speaker 1: beit happened soon rather than later. Michael, Cosla, Camri Milner,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much to you both. Well. After the break,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is flying to Europe to confront the leaders
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Speaker 1: there who are sending soldiers to stop him taking over Greenland.
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Speaker 1: This could be explosive. Today is d Day in the
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Speaker 1: war between Donald Trump and European leaders over Greenland. Now
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Speaker 1: the US President will overnight meet many of those leaders
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Speaker 1: in Davos, Switzerland, where French President Emmanuel mccron yesterday accused
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Speaker 1: him of being a bully by demanding the US take
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Speaker 1: Greenland from Denmark for security reasons. Although Macron's shades did
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Speaker 1: make me wonder if it been bullied again by his wife.
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Speaker 1: But we do prefer respect to bullies. We do prefer
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Speaker 1: science to plutism, and we do prefer all to edity.
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Speaker 1: But before Trump flew out of Washington, and before he
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Speaker 1: had to turn back to get another plane electrical fault,
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Speaker 1: Trump again teased Europe by suggesting he really was that
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Speaker 1: crazy he might even invade Greenland.
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Speaker 12: How far are you willing to go to acquire green
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Speaker 12: you'll find out.
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Speaker 1: Joining me again this year is Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's
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Speaker 1: first White House Chief of Staff. Great to see you again, Sean,
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Speaker 1: so glad you can join us again. Will Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: win over Greenland? Or is this going to just cost
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Speaker 1: the United States some friends and allies in Europe?
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Speaker 12: What a way to start twenty twenty six. Andrew, It's
21:45
Speaker 12: always great to be with you. Happy New Year to you.
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Speaker 12: That's an interesting question. Here's what I will predict you
21:52
Speaker 12: by the end of twenty twenty six, we'll have a
21:54
Speaker 12: deeper relationship with Greenland, both economically and militarily. How that
21:59
Speaker 12: manifest itself, I don't know, meaning do we buy them off.
22:04
Speaker 12: I've had people suggest to me that maybe like a
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Speaker 12: sovereign wealth fund akin to kind of or a relationship
22:09
Speaker 12: like the way that we have with the Alaskan people
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Speaker 12: in the United States where they get a yearly payout
22:15
Speaker 12: based on.
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Speaker 3: The oil reserves there.
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Speaker 12: I don't know what this ultimately looks like, but he
22:20
Speaker 12: is one determined person when it comes to this. I
22:22
Speaker 12: think he feels like he missed this opportunity during his
22:27
Speaker 12: first term, and he's not going to let it go
22:29
Speaker 12: this time. I will say this strategically, I one hundred
22:33
Speaker 12: percent understand what he's doing. I think he understands the
22:36
Speaker 12: national security importance and location of Greenland. That being said,
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Speaker 12: I kind of look at this from a guy who
22:45
Speaker 12: probably doesn't need to take any lessons from me on
22:47
Speaker 12: how to do business. But I would have assumed that
22:50
Speaker 12: if you went in with a little bit more honey,
22:52
Speaker 12: a little bit more carrot than stick when it came
22:54
Speaker 12: to winning over the people of Greenland, that might have
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Speaker 12: gotten them on your side. Uh, in a in a
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Speaker 12: in one way, but trying to take it by force,
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Speaker 12: if you will, is probably not the best tactic.
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Speaker 1: You don't buy these these claims that Donald Trump might
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Speaker 1: invade Greenland? Do you militarily?
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Speaker 12: No?
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Speaker 3: I mean, look to be blunt.
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Speaker 12: If we wanted to, it would take about eight seconds.
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Speaker 12: I think the Boy Scouts of America could take over.
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Speaker 14: Uh.
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Speaker 12: You know, no one's going to go up against the
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Speaker 12: US military. That's just a fact. So if we wanted to,
23:30
Speaker 12: we could. I don't think he will for a hunt
23:32
Speaker 12: a million reasons, but I think he wants to play
23:36
Speaker 12: hardball and make people think that he will, especially after
23:39
Speaker 12: the very successful uh snatch and grab of Maduro down
23:43
Speaker 12: in Venezuela.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Shawn, New York's new socialist mayor, Zzor Mamdani, has
23:49
Speaker 1: got to work on his socialist revolution. Here is this
23:52
Speaker 1: new so called equity director. It actually sounds quite racist.
23:57
Speaker 1: Explain that privately owned property would be treated more like
24:01
Speaker 1: communal property and whites would.
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Speaker 15: Pay, and it will mean that family is especially white families,
24:08
Speaker 15: but some pot families who her homeowners as well, are
24:12
Speaker 15: going to have a different relationship to property than the
24:17
Speaker 15: one that we currently have and.
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Speaker 1: Sure, and she's also said that private property and kind
24:23
Speaker 1: of especially home ownership is a weapon of white supremacy
24:29
Speaker 1: masquerading a wealth building public policy. What is going on
24:33
Speaker 1: in New York City.
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Speaker 12: I don't even know where to start with this. This
24:38
Speaker 12: is just if I laugh, but it's actually sad and
24:43
Speaker 12: scary that he's actually trying to do some of the stuff.
24:46
Speaker 12: I was one of the ones that thought, Okay, once
24:48
Speaker 12: he gets into office, he's going to abandon all of
24:51
Speaker 12: this ridiculousness, and clearly that's not the case. I mean, economically,
24:55
Speaker 12: it's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in
24:57
Speaker 12: my life. And I got a d in economics and
25:00
Speaker 12: like, like I could probably buy into a lot of things.
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Speaker 3: This is so.
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Speaker 12: Ridiculous, and to do it in New York City, the
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Speaker 12: financial capital of the world of the Uniteds, I mean, like,
25:11
Speaker 12: this is what, Like all these Wall Street guys have
25:13
Speaker 12: got to be spitting. Every educator in New York City's
25:15
Speaker 12: got to be like, did we not teach the students
25:18
Speaker 12: anything at all? Because this is this is an indictment
25:21
Speaker 12: on the public school system that this woman thinks that
25:23
Speaker 12: this is a good idea and then to your first point,
25:27
Speaker 12: talk about racist.
25:28
Speaker 3: I mean, if you.
25:30
Speaker 12: Flip this on its head and said we're going to
25:32
Speaker 12: do the following to black people or brown people, people
25:35
Speaker 12: would be losing their minds. I just I cannot believe
25:39
Speaker 12: that there's not more outrage about this. It's funny how
25:42
Speaker 12: many things in America right now the media and the
25:46
Speaker 12: left just sort of let go by, and this being
25:49
Speaker 12: probably in the top five things that have happened so
25:52
Speaker 12: far this year that have just gotten a pass in
25:54
Speaker 12: terms of issues that have been worthy of discussion.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think this is just one more example. The
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Speaker 1: most anti racist, most of anti racist people are in
26:03
Speaker 1: fact the most racist people you could meet. They're not
26:05
Speaker 1: against racism in principle, they just think their side should
26:08
Speaker 1: be on top. Now there's another thing, talking about racist
26:13
Speaker 1: hues sean something that we see here our activists inventing
26:19
Speaker 1: more racist atrocities from the past than actually happened, as
26:24
Speaker 1: if there's a shortage of stuff for them to fulminate against.
26:27
Speaker 1: Here is American actress Pam Grier on the View talking
26:32
Speaker 1: about growing up in Ohio and seeing lynched African Americans
26:37
Speaker 1: hanging from a tree.
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Speaker 14: Issues and my mom would don't let don't look. Don't look,
26:41
Speaker 14: she'd pull us away because there is someone hanging from
26:45
Speaker 14: a tree, and they have a memorial for it now
26:50
Speaker 14: where you can see where people were and left. And
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Speaker 14: it triggers me today that a voice can be silenced
27:03
Speaker 14: now Sean.
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Speaker 1: In fact, the last lynching in Ohio it was in
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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty seven, many years before she was actually born.
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Speaker 1: What's going on?
27:14
Speaker 12: I thought the first clip was gonna make me laugh.
27:16
Speaker 12: I mean, this is it's insane. I mean, the idea
27:19
Speaker 12: like don't let facts stand in the way of a
27:21
Speaker 12: good narrative, right, I mean the idea again, she just
27:24
Speaker 12: says this and no one objects. It's demonstrably false, and
27:28
Speaker 12: just like the economic aspect of what's going on in
27:32
Speaker 12: New York City, like these things are just ridiculous and
27:34
Speaker 12: there's zero pushback. Now, as a guy that used to
27:36
Speaker 12: be the spokesman for the Republican Party here in America
27:39
Speaker 12: for six years, I would get phone calls because, like
27:41
Speaker 12: little Johnny in middle school said the following, how does
27:44
Speaker 12: the party respond the idea that these people on the
27:46
Speaker 12: left can say things They talk about misinformation and distortion
27:51
Speaker 12: of the truth, and then they say all this kind
27:53
Speaker 12: of crap and nobody calls him out for it except
27:56
Speaker 12: an Australian broadcaster. I mean, think about how nuts is
27:59
Speaker 12: that it takes going halfway around the world for somebody
28:02
Speaker 12: to call her out for the patent falsehood that she
28:04
Speaker 12: just told. No one in America said a damn thing. Andrew,
28:07
Speaker 12: you're the only one that brought this up. I mean,
28:11
Speaker 12: how it's just sad and pathetic what we've become in
28:14
Speaker 12: this country. Would no matter what you say in the
28:17
Speaker 12: United States, if you're on the left and you say
28:19
Speaker 12: and it's anti Donald Trump, it's anti you know, any
28:22
Speaker 12: of the policies that he's supporting, you can say whatever
28:25
Speaker 12: you want with impunity. If you're on the right, and
28:28
Speaker 12: there's even a nuance of ambiguity, you're considered a purveyor
28:33
Speaker 12: of misinformation and a liar.
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Speaker 1: It's weird. She's actually written autobiography which she doesn't mention
28:40
Speaker 1: this so called incident once, which is so weird since
28:43
Speaker 1: she claims it was so scarifying. But there you go, Sean.
28:47
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you have to just pure. The
28:50
Speaker 1: bigger the lie in this sort of regard about calling
28:55
Speaker 1: people racious, the bigger the lie, the purer your heart,
28:58
Speaker 1: so there's no punishment at all. Sean Spicer. Great to
29:01
Speaker 1: talk to you again, look forward to catching up so
29:04
Speaker 1: often in the year ahead. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 3: I'm excited.
29:07
Speaker 12: What a way to kick off twenty twenty six Andreds
29:10
Speaker 12: see you next week. Thanks for having me.
29:14
Speaker 1: After the break. A new poll on something that's driving
29:18
Speaker 1: one nation's rise, something the main parties refuse to discuss.
29:27
Speaker 1: You didn't know. The poll today confirms that one Nation
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Speaker 1: is winning record support, and that's because it talks about
29:34
Speaker 1: what the big parties won't. In this case, it's the
29:37
Speaker 1: Freshwater Pole, which says one Nation now has nineteen percent
29:42
Speaker 1: of the vote. But this is the second poll this week,
29:45
Speaker 1: by the way, that contradicts the News poll on a
29:46
Speaker 1: Monday that shocked the media, which claiming claimed that One
29:50
Speaker 1: Nation now had more support than the coalition. No Freshwater
29:53
Speaker 1: says the Coalition still way ahead on primary votes twenty
29:56
Speaker 1: eight percent to One Nation is still very healthy teen percent.
30:01
Speaker 1: Labor is on just thirty three A newsper I think
30:04
Speaker 1: was a rogue result, but the trend is correct. One
30:07
Speaker 1: nation is getting a record support and this pole suggests
30:11
Speaker 1: why because it'd ask people, why are you changing your vote.
30:15
Speaker 1: A cost of living is still by far the biggest issue,
30:18
Speaker 1: of course, but two thirds of voters say we're importing
30:22
Speaker 1: too many migrants, two thirds and one third they're worried
30:27
Speaker 1: about crime. And when you see the news reports and
30:31
Speaker 1: the TV bullters in Melbourne for months now have been
30:34
Speaker 1: frightening again and again, you can see why this is
30:39
Speaker 1: appearing in the polls, like this report from Monday.
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Speaker 10: At just sixteen years old, Arta Good was shot dead
30:47
Speaker 10: on a street in Fitzroy on January three, just after midnight. Arta,
30:51
Speaker 10: also known as Ilia, was walking along King William Street
30:55
Speaker 10: with a friend. The talented young basketballer was gone down
30:58
Speaker 10: by someone in a passing car. Days earlier, on New
31:01
Speaker 10: Year's Eve, two men were stabbed by a gang armed
31:05
Speaker 10: with machetes Onlygon Street. Victoria Police has established Operation fire
31:12
Speaker 10: Long to investigate if the Carlton attack is linked to
31:16
Speaker 10: Arta's death.
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Speaker 1: Now this problem is so bad that one social media
31:22
Speaker 1: influencer Sudanese Australia are Jack Bunschal. He went viral with
31:27
Speaker 1: a video demaning we kick out more African criminals. They
31:32
Speaker 1: were out there killing people or waving machetes in public places.
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Speaker 3: The people that do these things have to go like
31:39
Speaker 3: they can't be here.
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Speaker 1: If you're killing people, you can't be here. And it's
31:42
Speaker 1: not racist, like Month's old literally kick him from fifty
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Speaker 1: out the country Month.
31:46
Speaker 3: And what I also hate is the victim mindset.
31:48
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's everyone, but a lot.
31:50
Speaker 4: Of people are quick to blame that, you know, the
31:51
Speaker 4: police for the killers.
31:53
Speaker 1: The fatality is bad enough to the panel of Gemutonini,
31:58
Speaker 1: colonists and communications because than Caroline Drusso, commentator and President
32:02
Speaker 1: of the West Australian Liberals, Caroline, this massive rise of
32:08
Speaker 1: one nation, how do you explain this?
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Speaker 11: Well, like, well, the only way we can explain it.
32:14
Speaker 11: And I think John o'duneam did a pretty good job
32:16
Speaker 11: of this a day or so ago. The Limbs and
32:20
Speaker 11: the Coalition are not in a great place at the moment,
32:23
Speaker 11: so I appreciate that there is some people that are
32:28
Speaker 11: not happy with the Limbs and I see a lot
32:30
Speaker 11: of this, not all of this though, as a bit
32:32
Speaker 11: of a protest vote. And I do take the point
32:35
Speaker 11: in relation to immigration.
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Speaker 8: And you know, just.
32:38
Speaker 11: After the BONDI I take were the Coalition was actually
32:41
Speaker 11: going to release its new immigration policy and given what
32:44
Speaker 11: had happened with BONDI and talk of royal commissions and
32:46
Speaker 11: all that sort of things. That policy hasn't yet been released,
32:49
Speaker 11: so there has been work done there because the Coalition
32:54
Speaker 11: do realize that that is a significant issue. What will
32:57
Speaker 11: be very interesting And I only sort of court Michael
33:01
Speaker 11: Costa's comments, so if I'm wrong, I'm absolutely not verbaling him.
33:06
Speaker 11: As we get closer to the election, people are going
33:08
Speaker 11: to think about where they park the vote, where they
33:12
Speaker 11: think that that party is going to be able, you know,
33:16
Speaker 11: to govern, and whether they think those policies are actually
33:19
Speaker 11: going to be put in place. And it'll be very
33:21
Speaker 11: interesting to see whether the one notion vote holds or
33:24
Speaker 11: whether it falls away. Because then I've said this before
33:27
Speaker 11: or now, I mean, Pauline Hanson has got more former
33:30
Speaker 11: colleagues than I've had hot dinners. You know, holding together
33:33
Speaker 11: seventy six seats, or at least holding together a bigger
33:37
Speaker 11: party is going to be a very very difficult exercise
33:41
Speaker 11: for Pauline, even though she has that support. It'd be
33:45
Speaker 11: very interesting to see what they come out with outside
33:48
Speaker 11: of immigration, because they're going to need a lot more
33:49
Speaker 11: than what they've got.
33:53
Speaker 1: Jemma, how do you see it.
33:55
Speaker 10: I see a fed up electorate and it'll surprise absolutely
33:58
Speaker 10: nobody that I'm one of them. I'm a let's say,
34:01
Speaker 10: arrested on conservative voter whos. I feel like I'm sitting
34:05
Speaker 10: on the side of a high school dance andrew waiting
34:07
Speaker 10: for someone to come and ask me to foxtrot. I mean,
34:10
Speaker 10: this party couldn't, let me just put it delicately, for one,
34:13
Speaker 10: This party couldn't currently organize an intimate encounter in a
34:17
Speaker 10: house of ill repute. It is so disorganized, is so
34:21
Speaker 10: obsessed with facile things like I wake up this morning
34:24
Speaker 10: to the news that you know, the New South Wales
34:26
Speaker 10: Liberal Party is considering a policy whereby men are excluded
34:30
Speaker 10: from pre selections. I mean, how utterly ranswered as a policy,
34:34
Speaker 10: and how utterly insulting saying to women you can't get
34:37
Speaker 10: there unless your half of your competition is you.
34:40
Speaker 3: Know, struck out before you start.
34:43
Speaker 10: The worst labor government in living memory in a generation
34:47
Speaker 10: is being able to do whatever it wants with impunity
34:50
Speaker 10: because our mob can't get themselves together. So I actually
34:53
Speaker 10: think I would probably place more weight on the news
34:55
Speaker 10: pole rather than the freshwater pole, just based on I
34:58
Speaker 10: suppose to start with the Freshwater recorded the federal election
35:02
Speaker 10: with its polling being not quite on the money, So
35:04
Speaker 10: I would be inclined to agree with the news poll
35:08
Speaker 10: result where that's concerned. And also, anecdotally from my own experience,
35:12
Speaker 10: people that I'm talking to, people that I'm listening to
35:15
Speaker 10: in my professional and personal world, Andrew, there are very
35:19
Speaker 10: very many people who are saying I've had enough. I've
35:21
Speaker 10: had enough. I'm joining one nation because I'm going to
35:24
Speaker 10: peg my flag to that pole and see where it
35:26
Speaker 10: gets me, rightly or wrongly.
35:30
Speaker 1: Caroline, I wonder whether the pressure from my nation has
35:33
Speaker 1: contributed to this disaster in the coalition in Canberra at
35:37
Speaker 1: the moment where the National Seam, a number of them
35:40
Speaker 1: see hell bent on severing tis now with the Liberals.
35:45
Speaker 1: After Susan Lee decided to accept the resignation, I think
35:49
Speaker 1: the forced resignation are three Nationals front benchers who defied
35:54
Speaker 1: cabinet solidarity and voted against this bill to give the
35:59
Speaker 1: government more power to ban hate groups. Did Susanly make
36:03
Speaker 1: a bad mistake accepting their resignations or is this just
36:08
Speaker 1: the way two parties had to confront an issue on
36:13
Speaker 1: which they apparently hold very different views.
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Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, I'm a state president of the Liberal Party
36:20
Speaker 11: and I know you'd love that answer, but you are
36:22
Speaker 11: absolutely not going to get that answer out of me.
36:27
Speaker 3: There are rules.
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Speaker 11: There is a coalition agreement and that there governs a
36:31
Speaker 11: relationship between the parties. There's always a lot more that
36:35
Speaker 11: goes on in relation to these things behind the scenes
36:38
Speaker 11: than what we see. What we see obviously play out,
36:43
Speaker 11: and obviously there's always a bit of butck covering I
36:45
Speaker 11: suppose on one side. So I'm not going to touch
36:47
Speaker 11: that with a barge pole, Andrew. But all I will
36:50
Speaker 11: say is you all need to grow up, all of you, because,
36:54
Speaker 11: like Jemma said, the electorates had enough and the organization
36:57
Speaker 11: has had enough, our members have had enough. You please
37:00
Speaker 11: sort yourselves out so we can get on with business
37:03
Speaker 11: and we can have a crack at the Labor Party
37:05
Speaker 11: because they're actually the opposition.
37:12
Speaker 1: What is interesting is now get the Australian Federal Financial
37:16
Speaker 1: Review is now reporting Gemma that eight Nationals have now
37:22
Speaker 1: resigned from the front bench of the coalition, which essentially means, well,
37:28
Speaker 1: you know, they're going their own way. There's not a
37:30
Speaker 1: formal split of the two party. Yeah, but I mean,
37:33
Speaker 1: what on earth?
37:36
Speaker 10: Well, that is very fresh information, and it would seem
37:39
Speaker 10: that it is the split you have when you don't
37:41
Speaker 10: want to split. I think that's the political equivalent equivalent
37:45
Speaker 10: of not returning someone's phone call, Like we've broken up
37:48
Speaker 10: because we're not returning your phone call. They've had enough
37:50
Speaker 10: And look I am again. I'm not in the political
37:53
Speaker 10: machine for my sins, thank goodness. But like most people
37:57
Speaker 10: who have a you know, a vested interest as a voter,
38:00
Speaker 10: as a taxpayer in my case of business owner, I
38:03
Speaker 10: sit here.
38:05
Speaker 7: I wanted.
38:05
Speaker 10: I wanted Susan Lee to be successful as a leader
38:09
Speaker 10: because I wanted the coalition to give this government a
38:11
Speaker 10: run for its money. But she has not proven herself
38:14
Speaker 10: capable of leading. Leading is about lots of different things.
38:17
Speaker 10: I might not know about political leadership, but I certainly
38:20
Speaker 10: know about more broadly leadership. I just feel like they've
38:23
Speaker 10: got they've got a Lancey boil. They've got a Lancey boil.
38:27
Speaker 10: It's not working if you can't unite, and that is
38:31
Speaker 10: the biggest part of the job ahead. You know, the
38:34
Speaker 10: proof is, the proof is what's happening around you. If
38:37
Speaker 10: eight people have resigned from that front bench, I mean
38:40
Speaker 10: I could I could nominate I could have nominated my
38:42
Speaker 10: late border Collie and Andrew would have done a much
38:44
Speaker 10: better job of hurting these people together. But joke's acide,
38:48
Speaker 10: what do we have as conservative voters? You want to
38:50
Speaker 10: know why people go to one nation? There's another example.
38:53
Speaker 1: It's I know at Caroline, I'm trying to work out.
38:58
Speaker 1: We've only got this one report and we don't have
39:00
Speaker 1: the details. Now it seems there's one of two things
39:04
Speaker 1: that are either splitting completely, in which case that's one thing.
39:08
Speaker 1: Or is it that the Nationals are leaving the front
39:11
Speaker 1: bench to give those members the freedom to cross the floor.
39:17
Speaker 1: But then that would mean that the opposition has only
39:20
Speaker 1: essentially only or mostly liberal people deciding on the front
39:26
Speaker 1: bench deciding policy for the coalition that includes Nationals who
39:30
Speaker 1: aren't on the front bench. That doesn't sound very sustainable either.
39:33
Speaker 1: The whole thing is a terrible miss.
39:37
Speaker 11: It is, and I think that that alternative physition is
39:40
Speaker 11: a bit like trying to be half pregnant. Look this,
39:44
Speaker 11: like you said, it's just been reported. I don't have
39:46
Speaker 11: any background on this, but I find it very difficult
39:49
Speaker 11: to think that the National Party are, after given what's
39:53
Speaker 11: happened in the last twenty four hours is going to
39:55
Speaker 11: allow themselves to you know, essentially be bound in a
40:00
Speaker 11: coalition where they don't get any say in the ministries
40:05
Speaker 11: and in the cabinet. So I think the next twenty
40:07
Speaker 11: four hours will be telling. But this absolutely does not
40:10
Speaker 11: bode well.
40:14
Speaker 1: Well, it's just incredible given Toonie carolynd usso thank you
40:18
Speaker 1: very much to you both in this remarkable day. I
40:23
Speaker 1: got to say that, Yeah, I think Susan Lee should
40:29
Speaker 1: have just waved it through. Those three Nationals front benches
40:36
Speaker 1: who crossed the floor, should have just said that's fine.
40:39
Speaker 1: Strange times has all been a rush. Well, let that
40:43
Speaker 1: pass because this is just worse than whatever I think
40:47
Speaker 1: the alternative was. So anyway, we'll hear the full story
40:51
Speaker 1: our guests tomorrow, maybe not even then. After the break
40:54
Speaker 1: Britain's most famous family after the Royals, has its image destroyed,
40:59
Speaker 1: the price fame. Let me update the news from Canberra.
41:07
Speaker 1: Amazing scenes. I don't know this is sustainable. All the
41:11
Speaker 1: Nationals now who are on the front bench, including Nationals
41:15
Speaker 1: leader David Little Proud, have resigned from the front bench.
41:20
Speaker 1: Because Susan Lee accepted the resignation of three that had
41:25
Speaker 1: crossed the floor in the Senate to vote for the
41:28
Speaker 1: governor's draconian bill to ban hate preaching groups. Now, at
41:34
Speaker 1: the moment, it seems that the idea is that the
41:37
Speaker 1: Nationals will say and the coalition just have not a
41:40
Speaker 1: single member in the shadow cabinet deciding policy. I don't
41:44
Speaker 1: know how on earth that is sustainable unless they have
41:47
Speaker 1: a shadow shadow cabinet where Susan Lee consults with them
41:50
Speaker 1: privately for their input and then suddenly, you know, her
41:53
Speaker 1: self puts it to shadow cabinet. I do not know,
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Speaker 1: but this is a disaster. And I think, just underlying
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Speaker 1: a point that I wish it had made more strongly,
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Speaker 1: that she should have not force the resignation of those
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Speaker 1: three National MP's, should have accepted whatever hell would come
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Speaker 1: from saying it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if I
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Speaker 1: look weak, I'll just let it slide. Let's stick together,
42:19
Speaker 1: and now we've got this. How that's going to resolve,
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Speaker 1: I do not know now, but this particular in between
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Speaker 1: at the moment is not sustainable. One nation will be gloating. Well.
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Speaker 1: One thing driving Donald Trump's push to take Greenland is
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Speaker 1: an incredible weakness of Europe. Now, Trump just dosn't think
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Speaker 1: Europe could defend Greenland or anything else, including Ukraine, from
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Speaker 1: the growing threat of Russia and China, and not without
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Speaker 1: the US doing all the hard work. And in Britain,
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Speaker 1: we've just had two astonishing example of why his right
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Speaker 1: to despise Europe for letting itself get so weak. First,
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Speaker 1: the British labor government yesterday agree to let China build
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Speaker 1: a massive new embassy, the biggest in all Europe, right
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Speaker 1: in the center of London, two hundred rooms underground, one
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Speaker 1: of which would be right next to critical underground communication
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Speaker 1: cables that some experts say it could then hack. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, that's what they say. The second example, even
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Speaker 1: more extraordinary. Donald Trump this week finely tweaked to scandal
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Speaker 1: that I've covered on the show several times, and he
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Speaker 1: has hit the roof now that British government, crippled by
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Speaker 1: colonial guilt, stupidly decided to give away the Chegos islands
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Speaker 1: in the Indian Ocean, given them to Mauritius, approach on
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Speaker 1: a country two thousand kilometers away, and also pay Mauritius
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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty million dollars a year, so it
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Speaker 1: could keep the giant British and American naval base there
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Speaker 1: at Diego Garcia. And now Trump has posed that a
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Speaker 1: scathing attack on this giveaway, saying, shockingly, our brilliant NATO
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Speaker 1: ALLI the United Kingdom is currently planned to give away
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Speaker 1: the island of Diego Garcia, the side of vital US
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Speaker 1: military base to Mauritius. US giving away an extremely important
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Speaker 1: land is an act of great stupidity, and it's another
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Speaker 1: in a very long line of national security reasons why
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Speaker 1: Greenland has to be acquired. Joining me from London's Petrick
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Speaker 1: Christie's star presenter at GBN News, Patrick, the Chago steel
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Speaker 1: is insane. We've discussed that before. It's not ratified yet,
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Speaker 1: so can be reversed. Why has Trump suddenly taken a
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Speaker 1: note of how bad it is?
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Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely, it can be reversed. It's a suicide act
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Speaker 16: of national self harm. President Trump is very angry about
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Speaker 16: it now, and he actually said publicly why the UK
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Speaker 16: doing it?
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Speaker 3: Is it because they need the money?
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Speaker 16: Well wait until he finds out that we're actually paying
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Speaker 16: Mauritius to give it away to them. But Trump has
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Speaker 16: about it now, I think because Nigel Farange actually had
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Speaker 16: an interview with the Speaker of the House in America
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Speaker 16: recently and told him in more detail about what's going
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Speaker 16: on in Jags. And there is a chance there that
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Speaker 16: that's got back to President Trump and he's seeing this
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Speaker 16: renewed stance, which which could actually mean that gb News
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Speaker 16: is about to save a piece of British sovereign territory, which.
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Speaker 3: Would be nice.
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Speaker 16: But I do think he's deciding to see the world
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Speaker 16: in more kind of vital big power terms Trump and
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Speaker 16: looking at it and using it as leverage when it
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Speaker 16: comes to him taking Greenland. But the British government, as
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Speaker 16: you turn fourteen times so far, they need to do
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Speaker 16: it again.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 16: I would say that we're led by incompetent technocrats, but
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Speaker 16: it's probably quite offensive to technocrats. The funny thing about this, though,
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Speaker 16: in a way, is that apparently President Trump is considering
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Speaker 16: just buying Diego Garcia off the Mauritians, so our incompetent
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Speaker 16: leader might have paid for the privilege of giving it
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Speaker 16: away to Mauritius so that all their citizens can stop
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Speaker 16: paying income taps and they can wipe off their national debt,
45:41
Speaker 16: and then President Trump might just buy it and have
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Speaker 16: it in its entirety. So that would be the worst
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Speaker 16: piece of negotiating that we've ever seen by our labor government.
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Speaker 16: And that is that is where we are at the moment.
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Speaker 16: But the big one for me, obviously.
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Speaker 3: Andrew, really is the Chinese embassy as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? Security risk?
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Speaker 16: The Chinese empits is massive, massive security is They've got
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Speaker 16: two hundred and eight underground chambers, one directly above the
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Speaker 16: cables leading to the financial district the city of London
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Speaker 16: and millions of people's personal emails. The latest is that
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Speaker 16: MI five has said they're going to move all of
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Speaker 16: these cables just to try to get them away from
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Speaker 16: the Chinese. So we're just going to grind central London
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Speaker 16: to a standstill so that cirkistarma can lick Beijing's boots.
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Speaker 3: But I want to know.
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Speaker 16: As well with this, where are all the pro Palestine
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Speaker 16: mob China keeps millions of Wigan Muslims in camps, organ
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Speaker 16: harvesting for sterilization, all of that.
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Speaker 3: They're very quiet all of.
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Speaker 16: These people that have been out on the streets campaigning
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Speaker 16: for Palestine previously. You know it's saying that you know,
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Speaker 16: this is all about oppress Muslims, et cetera.
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Speaker 3: Where are they on that?
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Speaker 16: But in terms of Chinese spying on us, they've previously
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Speaker 16: hacked every single diplomatic wire in Britain and they also
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Speaker 16: are believed to have hacked British military vehicles because we
46:54
Speaker 16: bought electric vehicles from China to use for our military,
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Speaker 16: so we're not allowed to talk in our own military
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Speaker 16: vehicle at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Why let them have that base here?
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Speaker 16: I think the reason is that this labor government has
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Speaker 16: ruined our economy so much that they feel as though
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Speaker 16: they need China now for the money, and this is
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Speaker 16: the price they're wanting to pay to compromise the entire
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Speaker 16: city of London and potentially the entire country. You do
47:17
Speaker 16: have to ask yourself, don't you know is comrade care
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Speaker 16: really working for Britain.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's extraordinary stuff and all coming to a head,
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Speaker 1: as you say, when Crumpkin use this as a leverage
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Speaker 1: against Britain over Greenland. And just finally, Britain's most famous
47:35
Speaker 1: family outside the Royals is Sir David and Victoria Bickham's
47:39
Speaker 1: the soccer great and the form of Posh Spice pop
47:42
Speaker 1: star and their children. But now the carefully curated image
47:45
Speaker 1: has been destroyed. Their eldest son, Brooklyn has written a
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Speaker 1: long series of posts on Instagram Monday. They're saying you
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Speaker 1: want to no more contact with his appearance, accuse him
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Speaker 1: of ruining his life, trying to make them part of
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Speaker 1: their very controlled social media image, and even ruining his
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Speaker 1: winning to a billionaires daughter with his mother hijacking his
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Speaker 1: winning dance and dancing quote inappropriately in quote with him. Look,
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Speaker 1: this has been huge news in Britain, but who's getting
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Speaker 1: the sympathy.
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Speaker 16: Well, it's a little bit of a mixed bag in
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Speaker 16: terms of whose thige people are on. Personally, I'm in
48:18
Speaker 16: the camp that Brooklyn is a useless, spoiled NEPO baby.
48:21
Speaker 16: You need to be a bit more grateful. He tried
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Speaker 16: his hand in photography, took a picture of an elephant
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Speaker 16: that you couldn't see if you remember that, he tried
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Speaker 16: his hand at being a chef or all he did
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Speaker 16: was do things like maker bacon sandwich. He then thought, oh,
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Speaker 16: I'll just want to be a racing driver. Was rubbish
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Speaker 16: at that as well, so couldn't be a racing driver.
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Speaker 16: The only good thing he's done in his life is
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Speaker 16: bagging a billionaire airs and Let's be honest, that's only
48:43
Speaker 16: happened because he happens to have the same last name
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Speaker 16: as his dad, So I think he should be a
48:47
Speaker 16: little bit more grateful. The thing I will say about this, Andrew,
48:49
Speaker 16: is apparently there is video footage of Victoria Beckham supposedly
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Speaker 16: inappropriate dance. The only people in possession over that video
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Speaker 16: footage are Brooklyn Beckham and his now wife Nicola Pals.
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Speaker 16: Release the tapes, That's what I say, Release the tapes.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, if it is as he says that Victoria
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Speaker 1: Beckham was the star of the wedding dance when it
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Speaker 1: should be the bride, I have some sympathy with him,
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Speaker 1: and also suspect it is very hard to live the
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Speaker 1: son of a very successful megastar and not be a
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Speaker 1: success yourself. But anyway, I think there's more to come out.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Patrick, Christie's really appreciated. That's it
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Speaker 1: tonight on this massive day with the Coalition scenes in shatters,
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Speaker 1: absolutely shattered. Up Next Charry, hosted by James Afferson. Good
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Speaker 1: Night