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Shaun Attwood | MKULTRA, Stargates & GATE, Elite Cover Up & MORE! · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: How are you everybody? Welcome back to the channel. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Ron Swanson. We're joined here tonight once again by Ryder
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  Speaker 1: Lee to talk about his latest movie, director of the
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  Speaker 1: Psychic Agent, The Gate Program. Before we get into all
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  Speaker 1: of that, also, you'll be learning about VPNs if you're
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  Speaker 1: not in America this evening. But Ryder, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: What's been going on since we last spoke? And thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for being here and giving up your time, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me on. Really appreciate it, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. And the last time that I
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  Speaker 2: was on, we were talking about Jeffrey Epstein and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the things that were going on at that time.
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  Speaker 2: And there is an interesting Jeffrey Epstein connection here. So
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to jumping into this topic with you.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Well, look, where would you like
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  Speaker 1: to start us off? I mean, the topic, I imagine,
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  Speaker 1: is quite broad. Do you want to, like, is that
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  Speaker 1: a massive Pokemon card behind you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Gengar, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's Gengar, bro. But that's so random.
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  Speaker 1: That's so random. You don't love Pokemon?
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  Speaker 2: I love Pokemon, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, listen. Do I love Pokemon? I mean, can you
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  Speaker 1: see the shelves that are behind me here in all
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  Speaker 1: of its glory? Not to your side, Ryder. Behind me, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Behind me here in all of its glory here. This
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  Speaker 1: is all.
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  Speaker 2: I got a sealed vintage jungle pack.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, damn! Boy's just whipping out the heavy hitters now. Like, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can't compete with sealed jungle packs.
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  Speaker 2: Genesect deck box. Some slabs back here. I got a
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  Speaker 2: Charizard slab. I got like all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, right, okay. If we're doing this, we're doing it, right?
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  Speaker 2: We can't just sit there waving.
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  Speaker 1: I made me look like a complete chump on my
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  Speaker 1: own freaking podcast in there.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Right, so we've got the Covented
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  Speaker 1: Goldfell Hat Pikachu in.
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  Speaker 2: An Easter egg.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Now what? Now what?
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  Speaker 2: Alright, hold on. Here's a Dark Barzard.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a 6? Is it Shadow? Is it first edition?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just regular. Oh, but here's a really cool one.
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  Speaker 2: This is a 9. This is a Japanese Team Rocket
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  Speaker 2: Returns Moltres. Oh, here's a Charizard based on Charizard. It's
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  Speaker 2: all the Holy Grail. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not playing anymore, Ryder. I'm not playing anymore. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not playing anymore. Okay. I'm not playing anymore, mate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is sick. This is a whole other live stream
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  Speaker 1: for one of my other channels, I do believe, Ryder.
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  Speaker 1: We might have to open some product together.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm totally down, dude. I freaking love Pokemon, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Pokemon's like my second thing next to this. Nice.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's move on. Yeah, absolutely. So, Ryder, where are
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  Speaker 1: we going to jump in tonight? Do you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about what got the ball rolling on the movie
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  Speaker 1: and really what dialed you in? Or is it an
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  Speaker 1: extension of work that you've been progressing on originally?
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  Speaker 2: Well, where I really started with it was looking through
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the MKUltra programs. And this is about
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  Speaker 2: four years in the making. I've been doing a lot
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  Speaker 2: of research on and collecting material for this movie because
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  Speaker 2: it's a very dense movie. There's a lot of information
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  Speaker 2: in it. But where that really started was looking through
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  Speaker 2: the MKUltra subprojects and realizing that several of the sub
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  Speaker 2: programs revolved around the development of psychic abilities. And then
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  Speaker 2: I started reaching out to a lot of the people
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  Speaker 2: that were confirmed in the Stargate remote viewing unit at
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  Speaker 2: Fort Meade, Maryland from the DIA and army intelligence and
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  Speaker 2: bringing them on my show. And I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there needs to be a comprehensive history here because it
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  Speaker 2: seems like not even the people within the Stargate remote
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  Speaker 2: viewing unit didn't really agree upon the history of the program.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I really need to do a
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  Speaker 2: comprehensive history here of like this unit where the research started,
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  Speaker 2: how I got developed and, you know, where, where all
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  Speaker 2: of that began. And up until 1995, whenever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the CIA, uh, was supposed to get its hands on
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  Speaker 2: the unit, and then they shut it down and said
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  Speaker 2: that no intelligence data had ever been collected from the program,
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  Speaker 2: which is a giant lie. I mean, whenever you have
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  Speaker 2: something running from 1978 to 1995... you better get some
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  Speaker 2: kind of results out of that. Or it's like, what
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  Speaker 2: are you, what were you even doing? But it was
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  Speaker 2: made to be like a giant joke. And, uh, there
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  Speaker 2: was even a movie made about this called, uh, the
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  Speaker 2: men who stare at goats and the minister goats is
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  Speaker 2: kind of based off of a project Stargate. And it
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  Speaker 2: went under many different names and iterations and, uh, changes
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  Speaker 2: between DIA and army intelligence and went back and forth
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  Speaker 2: two to three times between those times. And it, uh,
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  Speaker 2: got different, um, uh, name changes every time that it,
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  Speaker 2: that it combined with, uh, another unit. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: very confusing and convoluted history and, But that's really where
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  Speaker 2: it started was trying to get to the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: all of that. Because if you just got on Google
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  Speaker 2: and looked on Wikipedia, they'll just give you the very
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  Speaker 2: bare minimum of the history of the program. And it's
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  Speaker 2: even confusing on there. And I was like, this is
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  Speaker 2: a very important thing to really nail down. And then
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  Speaker 2: I had someone from the DOD send me a A CD.
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  Speaker 2: This is how old school this gentleman was. He sent
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  Speaker 2: me a CD with a bunch of documents on it
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  Speaker 2: that I had to find an older computer that still
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  Speaker 2: had a disk drive that I could put the CD
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  Speaker 2: inside of because no computer nowadays even has a disk drive.
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  Speaker 2: And to put the CD in and then to upload
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  Speaker 2: all the files, then that's how I got access to it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of MKUltra files and pretty much all of
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  Speaker 2: the remote viewing Stargate files. And I read through all
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  Speaker 2: of them and then put together a comprehensive timeline based
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  Speaker 2: upon all of those declassified and unclassified files. And then
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  Speaker 2: that is the first hour of the movie Psychic Agent,
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  Speaker 2: the gate program. Then the second hour dives into the
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  Speaker 2: Gifted and Talented Education GATE program.
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  Speaker 1: Where the.
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  Speaker 2: CIA and the government were recruiting children. And this wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just happening inside of the United States. This was going
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  Speaker 2: on in the UK. Many people from the UK have
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  Speaker 2: reached out to me and been like, yeah, I was
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  Speaker 2: a part of this GATE program. People in Australia as well.
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  Speaker 2: Someone just recently reached out to me from Australia and
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  Speaker 2: said that they remember being in this gifted and talented
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  Speaker 2: education program in public school and all of these really
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  Speaker 2: strange and weird tests that they were required to do.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where it really, you know, it evolved from
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  Speaker 2: the remote viewing psychic abilities that I discovered in the
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  Speaker 2: MK ultra files evolved into that. And then it evolved
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  Speaker 2: once again, just as, remote viewing and psychic abilities had
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  Speaker 2: involved from its inception and it kept changing and they
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  Speaker 2: kept finding different ways to be able to use it.
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  Speaker 2: And Russia was actually doing this program called Adonagypnos and that's,
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  Speaker 2: hypnosis at a distance, right? So Russia was finding all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of different ways to use remote viewing. And that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the amazing, incredible things about it is that
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  Speaker 2: there's so many uses for it. It can be used
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  Speaker 2: for so many different things that we aren't even aware of.
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  Speaker 2: It can be used for influencing people. Like you can
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  Speaker 2: literally get inside of someone else's subconscious mind And put
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  Speaker 2: thoughts and ideas and beliefs and manipulate them across space
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  Speaker 2: and time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For another country. If you wanted to, and if you
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  Speaker 2: were good at it, then you could do that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think you've seen any examples of this play
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  Speaker 1: out in the modern political landscape?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my personal belief is that it evolved out of
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  Speaker 2: using humans to do it, that it's now a technology-based thing.
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  Speaker 2: But Lin Buchanan talks about in the movie that he
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  Speaker 2: believes that technology couldn't replicate the way that a very
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  Speaker 2: experienced and good remote influencer could do this because we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, Influencing people against their belief systems,
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  Speaker 2: against their religion, against their political party, against their family.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many different angles to this. And that's the
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  Speaker 2: thing about a lot of this stuff is that people
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  Speaker 2: want it to be just one thing, right? They want
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  Speaker 2: you to give like... One, one example of, of this
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  Speaker 2: happening and, or that it's, uh, you know, blame it
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  Speaker 2: on this individual or it was this person that did it.
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  Speaker 2: It was that lone shooter, right? How many times have
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  Speaker 2: we heard the lone shooter narrative, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a classic.
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  Speaker 2: They want to be able to blame it on one
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  Speaker 2: individual because it's the simplest and easiest version.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what Ryder? It's prevalent also in court cases, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mark Giuffre, Diddy, Epstein. It's fine if we've got one
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  Speaker 1: mad pervert, but the minute that it looks like a
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  Speaker 1: larger recall conspiracy, it's shut down. So it's across the board.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and they want to be able to
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  Speaker 2: pin it on just one sole individual. Military and CIA
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  Speaker 2: operations are never that simple. There are many moving parts.
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  Speaker 2: There are many different people that are involved and groups
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  Speaker 2: that are involved. And if you can figure it out,
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  Speaker 2: then that means that they didn't do a good job, bro.
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  Speaker 2: That means that they did not do a good job
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  Speaker 2: in covering up the thing that they were trying to
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  Speaker 2: cover up. That's why it's easier to find things that
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  Speaker 2: happened a really long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that when we hear about all these
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  Speaker 1: stories about, oh, you've got to raise your frequency, you
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  Speaker 1: can't be in a low frequency. Do you think when
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  Speaker 1: the victims of this are held in a certain state,
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  Speaker 1: do you think the frequency? And I mean, I hate
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  Speaker 1: to sort of sum it down to sort of vibe.
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  Speaker 1: That seems to be taken sweeping around the world. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think that has something to do with the ability
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  Speaker 1: to disconnect from some of this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's really what the MK ultra programs
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  Speaker 2: were about was the disassociation, right? You, you drug the individual,
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  Speaker 2: you then de-pattern them, you get rid of their cognitive and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, their emotions. critical thinking skills that would be
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  Speaker 2: able to pull them out of a disassociative state, something that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, keeps them locked into this reality. You don't
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  Speaker 2: want that. So you de-pattern them through trauma, then you
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  Speaker 2: psychically drive them. And that was a big, you know,
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  Speaker 2: talking point between my second documentary and A Clockwork Shining,
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  Speaker 2: a Kubrick's Odyssey 3, which is also available on Amazon Prime.
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  Speaker 2: You might be able to get that one if you're
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  Speaker 2: in the UK or if you're in Australia. It's free
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  Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime. A Clockwork Shining, a Kubrick's Odyssey 3.
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  Speaker 2: And we talk about you and Cameron in there and
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  Speaker 2: what he was doing at Ravenscrag in Canada. He was
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  Speaker 2: basically doing the same thing that people claimed that was
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  Speaker 2: happening to them within the gate system. gifted and talented
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  Speaker 2: education in public school. They were drugged, which is something
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of the people within the GATE program
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  Speaker 2: claim to be taking some strange substance, the pink drink.
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  Speaker 2: What is the pink drink? A lot of people were
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  Speaker 2: told that it was several different things. Some people, it
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  Speaker 2: was asthma medication. Other people, it was vitamins, liquid vitamins.
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  Speaker 2: Other people were, was it was liquid vaccinations and there
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  Speaker 2: are liquid vaccinations. There's actually air vaccinations. The military has
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  Speaker 2: air vaccinations. They don't even have to poke you with anything.
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  Speaker 2: You just walk through a tube and then they just
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  Speaker 2: hit you with air. It's just a air vaccination, 100% real. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and depending on where, what state you were in and
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  Speaker 2: depending on what country you were in as well, depending
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  Speaker 2: on what you were told was the reason for you
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  Speaker 2: to have to take this substance all the time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask, right? How much it like was the
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  Speaker 1: pink drink, like a shot glass size, like about this,
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  Speaker 1: like about this much when, when people were talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a little Dixie cup.
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  Speaker 1: Because Ryder, listen, bro, I'm not going to lie to you.
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  Speaker 1: When I was at primary school, all of my class
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  Speaker 1: was a class that was part of an experiment where
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  Speaker 1: none of the class was split up. None of the
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  Speaker 1: children were mixed around into other classes. I was in
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  Speaker 1: the same class for seven years right the way through
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  Speaker 1: primary school. And I vividly remember at least twice a
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  Speaker 1: little cup of pink drink.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to. There you go. Right there. Actually. Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: That's a, that's a thing here though, is that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for the people that believe that it was a, it
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  Speaker 2: can go either way for you because people that were
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  Speaker 2: successful and got through the program, they were, they, they
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  Speaker 2: normally have all the running a big, large company. They're,
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  Speaker 2: they're more well off.
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  Speaker 1: That's not me. Right. Right. Right. That's not me. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this. It's, it's bizarre because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember that it's weird. Um, but I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any negative traumas associated with it at all. Like nothing,
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  Speaker 1: zero nada.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Um, so I don't know if I got the team,
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  Speaker 1: the team version of what was regularly happening, but it
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  Speaker 1: was bizarre. When I think back now with what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: but anyway, keep talking real well. I have a meltdown
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  Speaker 1: in the background here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and there are different versions of it and
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  Speaker 2: that's a way to obfuscate and cover up really what
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  Speaker 2: was happening as well as that they can do like a,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a quarterly or yearly or a half a
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  Speaker 2: year test where it seems like everybody is involved all
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  Speaker 2: the while they're doing like a completely separate thing.
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  Speaker 1: Hearing tests, bro. Hearing tests. I seem to remember as
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  Speaker 1: a class, we did a lot of hearing tests. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of, it was a lot of stuff. Okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: please continue, Ryder. Sorry, I'm going to stop interrupting you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's 100% okay. Because this is important. You went
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  Speaker 2: through something very similar. Millions of people have been through, uh,
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  Speaker 2: essentially the same thing. They just don't really remember until
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  Speaker 2: they're kind of triggered and then they start thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: And then they're like, holy shit, this also happened to me.
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  Speaker 2: I was involved in something like this too. So this
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  Speaker 2: is actually, uh, really good. So people remember the, the
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  Speaker 2: hearing test and that, that was also what was happening
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  Speaker 2: with you and Cameron, the official MK ultra programs in Canada, uh,
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  Speaker 2: was essentially the exact same thing. So he was drugging
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  Speaker 2: these people, depatterning them, and then psychically driving them. And
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  Speaker 2: that psychic driving came in the form of a looped,
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  Speaker 2: repeated audio message with headphones. It would be like a
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  Speaker 2: style of headphones that we're wearing right now. And people
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  Speaker 2: on the internet got heavily triggered because they would hear this.
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  Speaker 2: They heard the Monroe Institute gateway tapes. Gateway experience. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you should be hearing my voice in your right ear.
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  Speaker 1: Triggered a lot.
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  Speaker 2: In that. And then they started to remember their experience
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  Speaker 2: in this gifted and talented education public school program. based
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  Speaker 2: off of hearing the Monroe Institute gateway tapes. So that
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  Speaker 2: really intrigued me. And I'm like, okay, we got to
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  Speaker 2: figure this out. You know, what was going on? What
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  Speaker 2: were they actually doing inside of these programs? Well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: first off, was there an actual program? Can we find
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  Speaker 2: documentation of gifted and talented education? So I went down
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  Speaker 2: this giant rabbit hole doing all this research, finding documentation
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  Speaker 2: of Were they testing children for psychic abilities? Because that's
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  Speaker 2: something that, you know, a lot of people clean was happening,
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  Speaker 2: but no one really had the proof for. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, so I just set out on a mission, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I got to find out exactly what's happening,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. I got to find the documentation. And
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  Speaker 2: it took a long time. But I finally found it
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  Speaker 2: and it's in the movie and it proves that exactly
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  Speaker 2: what they were doing. But that is only one part
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  Speaker 2: of it. Just like I was mentioning, it's not just
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  Speaker 2: one thing. They're looking for many different things. They're also
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  Speaker 2: looking for recruitment opportunities. recruiting, getting the youngest and brightest
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  Speaker 2: minds to essentially handle them for the future and to
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  Speaker 2: put them into positions in society. 100% that's going on.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the people that I had talked to
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  Speaker 2: that had been through the gifted and talented education. Like
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  Speaker 2: one of the people that is in the movie psychic agent,
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  Speaker 2: the gate program is, uh, was Walter Bosley and Walter
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  Speaker 2: Bosley went through this program, uh, called MGM mentally gifted minors.
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  Speaker 2: And this was in California. And this was in like
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  Speaker 2: the early sixties. And, uh, he ended up in the military, uh,
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  Speaker 2: And working for three-letter organizations. Another individual that helped me
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of the research named Trey Hudson. You
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  Speaker 2: can find him on my channel on YouTube, Raised by Giants.
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  Speaker 2: He also went through a GATE program in Florida. And
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  Speaker 2: he also ended up in the military and working for
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  Speaker 2: the DOD. So there's a lot of these different, I
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  Speaker 2: would say that a large percentage of it is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for recruitment. And then we have, you know, people like
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  Speaker 2: the UFO lawyer guy. What is his name? Blanket on
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  Speaker 2: his name.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I remember it, I'll bring it up. But he's essentially
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  Speaker 2: saying that Danny Sheehan, he's saying that at Northrop Grumman,
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  Speaker 2: there was this program that was for military personnel's children
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  Speaker 2: that was set up on base. outside of Northrop Grumman
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  Speaker 2: and that this was a gifted and talented education. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: this was for the personnel, the, the children of military personnel.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So it's exactly like Laurel Canyon and you know, what
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: was going on in the sixties and into the seventies
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of these bands that all had, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: military family that their dads or their, their, you know, their,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: very close relatives were involved in, there were high ranking
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: military officials. So to me, it sounds like what's in anyway.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of getting off track here. So he
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: says that, They would take these kids and they would
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: put them into the gate program that was in right
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: outside of north of Grumman military base. And then they
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: were training them. They were drugging them up and then
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: training them to connect their minds consciously to back engineered
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: UFOs and UAPs. In order to control them with their mind.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And that sounds crazy. kind of out there.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Cause it kind of depends on if you believe any
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: aliens and extraterrestrials, but I believe that all of the,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the things that we see in the sky is actually
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the military, right? They're, they're, they're created technology by us. Um,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: So it would make sense if we created it and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: then we needed people to actually pilot it. There's 100%
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: real documentation. One of my friends made an entire other
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: video about psychics and controlling UFOs and UAPs. It's 100%. Now,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that was with adults, right? So it's not that far
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: of a jump to believe that they could be doing
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: this with children. And these are the kids of military
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: personnel because it's military technology. So there's several different avenues
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and several different things happening here all at one time.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And it's the perfect way to not only... test people
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for some sort of psychic abilities to get them in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: some other program, but it's also a good way to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: just recruit people into the military, the three-letter organizations, put
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: them in a certain company, plan them out for the future,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: use them for whatever agenda that you want to carry
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: forth in the future. I mean, you know, who's going
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to be the next Greta Thunberg? Who's going to be
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the next LeBron James? Who's going to be the next
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you know, athlete, superstar, who's going to be the next
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist. And that might seem like a really
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: far stretch as well, but they 100% believe that there's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: programs like that going on because you want to be
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: able to control people. That's what it's really all about.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Because if you can control people, then you can control
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the future. And especially if you can control the children.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: If you control the children, then you can effectively mold
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and shape and control the future. And if anyone ever
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: really kind of goes too far in that, it won't
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: really matter because they'll be working for them. This is
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the main reason why nothing really changes in our reality.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: It's because anybody that can actually make a difference in
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: our reality, Ron, is working for the government and working
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: for their projects. So if you have the smartest and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: brightest minds in the entire world working for you, there's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: absolutely nothing that can be done. They can't take anything
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that they developed for the government or a corporation and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: then start to use it on their own. The government
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and the corporation owns that thing that you created for them.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's a false sense of moving forward, freedom,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and almost evolving, right?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the people that kind of slipped through the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: cracks and possibly could invent something that would revolutionize the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: way that we operate as a society, their patents are
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: just buried under the National Security Act.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: No one will ever find out about it, right? And
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: then if that doesn't work, then they're killed, assassinated, or murdered.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of food poisoning.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The Adventure in Secrecy Act of 1951 literally says
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that the government can classify any patent under the threat
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: of national security. Now, what is considered to be a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: threat to national security? It's whatever they say that it is.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: They can just make it up. oh, that's a threat
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to national security. We've got to hide that and close that,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and you can't operate that patent anymore. You can't build
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: that patent, and if you do, then you're going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: be thrown in prison, and then if that doesn't work,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: then we're just going to kill you.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen it play out so many times. I mean,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: look at the totally non-suspicious level of scientists that just vanished, disappeared,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and dropped. this year alone. When it comes to the replacing, right,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of the traditional MKUltra, you know, clockwork orange, eyes held open,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: projecting images in, all of this transitioning over to the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: psychic version of it all. Do you think that we're
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: going to see these psychics using their ability of installation
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of thought on a more global scale along with technology
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and with the false media narratives.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do. I do believe that because there's only
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: one way that a lot of this can go. Because
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: if you're unlocking these people's psychic abilities, because that's what
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the Monroe Institute gateway experience was really about, was getting
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: people outside of their body so that they can unlock
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: their Psychic ability. So what's really going on here? Are
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: they trying to create a psychic army? That's almost what
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it seems like that they're doing.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Psychic army that they that they have created. I mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that's really the only way to. So other than, you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: recruiting people, because, again, that is a major part of it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Some of the things that we talked about, you have
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the pink drink, you have the strange frequencies, which I
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: 100% believe is the Monroe Institute gateway tapes. There's also...
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Strange things like playing with blocks and strings and people
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: describe vision tests using 3D goggles. And there are several
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: programs that kind of tie into what people remember that
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: aren't directly connected. But there were real programs that involved
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: these types of things. There was a program called the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Ames Leaf Room. which was created by this gentleman called Dr. Ames.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And it was funded by the Office of Naval Research.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And he would take a bunch of these college students
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: into this room and dose them with LSD and put
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: goggles over their head. And then they would have like
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the worst trip of their life. And then they would
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: be tripping balls on LSD. And then they would go
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: into a psychosis and end up in the emergency room.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: There's other programs that are very real. One is called
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the Gansfeld Experiment, G-A-N-Z-F-E-L-D, Gansfeld. That is to induce hallucinations
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and activate psychic abilities. You can do it yourself by
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: cutting a ping pong ball in half and taping them
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to your eyeballs and taking a bright red light and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: shining it on your face. And everyone that has done
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: this for a long period of time, a lot of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: people can't go past like 20 to 30 minutes doing it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But for the people that kind of do pass that threshold,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: they end up seeing and experiencing things and hearing voices
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and footsteps and shadows when there's no one else in
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: their home. They're alone in their home. Dean Radin, which
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: was just recently on Joe Rogan, was involved in creating
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: this experiment. And he also talked about in that show
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: that children are way more psychically gifted than adults are.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And that's another thing that I found out through the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: making of this documentary and the documentation of that. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: one of the really important ones is this telepathy card game.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of people that are a part of this
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: gifted and talented education in public school remember like a strange,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like flashcards. Do you remember flashcards?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't say I remember them at my school,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: but I know what you mean by flashcard. I feel like, anyway,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: let's not clutch at my straws, carry on with what
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you were saying, but yeah, I understand what you mean
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: by the flashcards.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a really real telepathy card game
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: that was created by Carl Zender and J.B. Ryan called
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the Zender Cards.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: And.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The Zender cards were, and you can Google it. You
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: can just type in the Google Zender cards, and it'll
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: pull up basically the history of it and what they
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: look like. They're blank on the back, and then on
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the front of them, they have a symbol. There's like
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: a star or a square or a circle or different
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: symbols on the fronts of the cards. So the teacher
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: or whoever was running these gifted and talented education programs
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: would have the child, the subject, you know, use their
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: mind to figure out what symbol was on each back
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: of the card.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: What did you say? What did you say that it
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was Zinder? What was the name of the cards?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Zinder cards.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Z-I-N-D-E-R.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Z-I-N-D-E-R, I believe is what it is. Or it might
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: be Z-I-N. But either way that you put it into Google,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: it'll still pull it out.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Zander, I think it is. Hang on a second. Possibly.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Is it these ones?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, sick. That's fine. Counting with what you were saying, brother.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Z and ER. Zinner. So what was going on
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: here was I found documentation that this started in the 30s.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And this was funded by the Rockefellers. And this was
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: done on Indigenous schoolchildren in Canada. And then it was
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: also done on children within the United States. So it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: something verifiably real that happened to people and there's documentation
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: for it. And that was a really important one. And,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you know, where a lot of this... starts is in 1958, right?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Because 1958 is when the United States launched its first
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: satellite in the space called Explorer 1 on January of 1958.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And just a little while after, that was just, that
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: just happened like, I don't know, less than a year
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: after Russia launched their satellite in the space, which was
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: called the Sputnik. And a lot of things were happening
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: in 1958. DARPA was established in 1958. NASA was established
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: in 1958. And the government officially became involved in the
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: public school system in 1958. And this was to, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: it goes back to recruitment there. They needed to find,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you know, astronauts, engineers, because we were afraid that Russia
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: was going to You know, well, Russia had already essentially
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: beat us in the space with the launching of the Sputnik, right?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: So we were feared that we were behind and we
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: needed to find the smartest and brightest people to, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: fill all of these roles. And I believe that that's
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: where it started. And then it just kept evolving just as,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you know, remote viewing and psychic abilities had evolved. since
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the research started at SRI in the early 70s with
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Pat Price and Ingo Swann with the CIA funding research,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: remote viewing research at SRI. So there's some really interesting
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein stuff in here because we might have mentioned
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: it actually on the last show. So the Rothschilds were
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: essentially very instrumental in the formation of a lot of
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: things that were happening inside of the United States. They
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: were also very instrumental in the formation of the Federal
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Reserve and actually bailed out the United States when we
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: ran out of gold. And we know from that interview
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: with Steve Bannon and Epstein, Epstein essentially said that he,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you know, represents the Rothschild family. So when the Rothschilds
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: needed to take over wall street. They did it by
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: sending someone to New York city. And that was to
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: oversee the purchase of this, uh, media company called McMillan Inc.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And that would later be renamed in rebranded McGraw Hill,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: which is responsible for the majority. And most of the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: elementary textbooks, like elementary school books in America that Kids
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: are raised on.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a whole bunch of kids
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: that are in a program and you've got control of
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the information, those kids are being fed from within what
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: seems to be a public system. That's problematic, Ryder.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: And the person that they sent to take over that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: company was Robert Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell's dad.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So Robert Maxwell was working for the Rothschilds to take
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: over this McMillan Inc., which became McGraw Hill, which then
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: is responsible for all of the, well, not all of them,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: but a majority of the, you know, the elementary school
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: books in America.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And he was like their main guy. And when Maxwell
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: would then, you know, go on to die on his yacht, Right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Because he owed money to Mossad and he also owed
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: money to the Rothschild family. The Rothschild family through the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Bank of England. Connected to, you know, Maxwell running all
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of these corporate blackmail schemes and taking over of media
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: companies and, you know, blackmailing like politicians and people. You know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Epstein was essentially his replacement. And Epstein had just been
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: introduced to Robert Maxwell like six months prior to his death.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: They introduced him.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, his death is again another one of
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: those interesting parts, right? Just fell off his own yacht.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Nothing suspicious about that at all, Ryder. What are you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: talking about? It makes you wonder, who's Israeli in charge, Ryder?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Who's Israeli in charge of all of this, you know?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Who is really in charge?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: That seems to be what's, I mean, how many times
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: have we just had people fall out of windows? How
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: many overdoses have, you know, suspected overdoses have people gone through?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, that seemed to be the really
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: big thing like back in the day is that, you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: you just fall out of a window.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You play the game, right? Or you take a flying lesson, bro.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Play the game or try and learn to fly the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: hard way. Can you evolve fast enough from man to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: bird in the time it takes you to go from
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: window to concrete? Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You better learn real quick.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You better learn real quick. You've got a chance, okay?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: There is a slight chance you may evolve. Very slim,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but it's true. And even if, I mean, there was
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a project called the Forgotten Children Project, right? And that
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: was Chester Bennington, the guy, Avicii, that chef that got
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: unalived and a guy called Chris, whose last name I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: can't remember, but they're all like super famous. Thank you.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Super famous dudes. And they all, mysteriously are no longer
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: with us. And it got me wondering, Ryder, that if
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I was an evil overlord PDF file and I wanted
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to round up all the celebrities with information about said
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: evil PDF file, I would just say I'm making a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: documentary and get them all to put their hands up.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And then when they put their hands up, snuff them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: And that's what I feel happened with that documentary. What's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: your take on those who try and shut down or
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: dare out the cabal, for lack of a better word?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: That would be a really good way to do it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: You know, then that would, you know, expose the people
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that have any kind of information under the guise of
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: thinking that they are making a documentary and then the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: documentary never gets made and then they're just killed.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Everyone that's not alive.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That's a... I never thought about that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: How dark is that, bro? And what sort of message
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: does that send to everyone else with information? Okay? Because
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you know for a fact that someone, some will have
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: been told, so that there's a whisper of this on
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the air. Because that's the feeling I get from it.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Because what other explanation could there possibly be?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: What's also interesting about that is all those people that
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you just mentioned all basically died in the exact same way.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: They all died with the exercise band and choking themselves
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: out behind a door.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Right. And, you know, don't quote me on this, but
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure... somebody hit me with a conspiracy about
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: red ties. It's not red shoes. It's red ties or
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: red scarves. And these being in the locations or around
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the locations or found at the locations of these people's unaliving.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: It may just be the ADHD misconstruing two things. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the side chat can let us know. I don't mean
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: red shoes. I don't even think it was red rope.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was scarves. So if anyone knows
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, let us know. Because I sure
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: as hell don't. No, not bracelets. But it would have
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: popped into your head, Ryder, I would imagine, if you'd
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: went down this one.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I've heard the one about the red shoes and the
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: red bracelets. And there's like some with... that are like
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: children's toys. It was all revolved around Tom Hanks. But, um,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: another one that's really interesting that's kind of on the
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: lines of this is, um, do you remember Ellen DeGeneres's, uh,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: ex that died in that car?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Um, ask me what
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: her name is and watch me forget it instantly. It was,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Anne Hatch. Anne Hatch. That was it. Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Anne Hatch.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: That one was really weird because I'm pretty sure that
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: she was, may have been doing some kind of documentary
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Or absolutely definitely was about to do a documentary on
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: exposing Hollywood and all of the nasties. Right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And that one's really weird because he looks like she's alive.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: She pops up out of that stretcher, dude.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yep. You remember that? Like a badly shot zombie movie, bro.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: That's what that was. That was straight up terrible, like
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: extra acting in a zombie movie, straight up living human
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: being situation. I 100% agree.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: That one was really freaking weird, really freaking weird.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And everyone's expression was like, why did, why was, how
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: come she was so rude enough to not just die
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in the car crash? Do you know what I mean?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Like that's the, that's the vibe I got from everyone.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that's another one as well as I, Virginia Jeffrey.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Do you know writer, right? Funny you mentioned that because
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: there was people that were in connection with the channel
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that were quite close connected with Virginia, right? And when
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they took her and they then showed that picture of
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: her where allegedly she was bruised and the picture was
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: this way, right? That to me was a picture of
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: her unalive that they rotated around and they were taunting us.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I could not find any proof of life since October
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: of the previous year, right? For Virginia Dufresne. People were
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: receiving text messages and emails, but there was no verbal
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: video call, nothing. no confirmation of life. And even the,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: even the story of the bus hitting that car, right.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: It was fabricated. The bus driver came out and done a,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: done a news report because he was scared that he
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: was getting caught up in an insurance scam because he said,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I had a bus load full of kids
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and it was such a light clipping of the vehicle
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that the school kids weren't even traumatized. And he said
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: there was one person in that car and it was
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: an elderly woman. And he was also an ex paramedic. So,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you know, yourself, you as a normal person would scan
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: that car. If you were in any kind of remote
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: looking for pets, kids, whatever, just to make sure everyone
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: was okay. But if you add that layer of subconscious
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: of being a paramedic, you're going to see who's in
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: that vehicle. And so we know that was a lie.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: There was no YouTubers, tech talkers, no one seeing her
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: going in and out of hospital and photographs of her
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that were released afterwards. couldn't be dated as to being
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: when they were taken. So Virginia Dufresne, in my humble opinion,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: was taken, tortured, unalived, and used as a taunting tool
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to us all. And do you know what? She was
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a loose end to many, many people on that list.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: And that's what I feel like we were looking at, Ryder.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And also really what's strange about that is like just,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, very short time later is when all
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of the Epstein file stuff started being talked about with
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Trump and releasing the Epstein files. So they essentially had
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to kind of get her out of the way because
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: she was actually the one that was funding a lot
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: of these other victims, their trial fees and their court
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: cases and their fees going through the court system. out
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: of Florida, there's a lot of very strange and weird
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: circumstances surrounding her. I mean, you also had the tweet
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that she made that says that if she ever dies
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: to investigate, and I don't know about you, Ron, but
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: if anybody ever says, if I die suspiciously of something weird,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: then investigate my death. I don't care how long ago
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you said that. I don't care if it was 10
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I'm checking it out. Someone needs to.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Look into this shit, bro. Like, what are we doing?
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: And people were trying to make the excuse like, oh,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: she said that four years ago. I'm like, I don't care.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: How long ago is she? We just seen Hayden Panettaire
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: be unalived with a fentanyl tab. And she was working
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: with a friend of mine, Barbara. And she's got a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: list of 20 names and was about to come forward
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and release something. all of the, how do we put this?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: The author of Room 23's alleged global celebrity pimping agency,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to put it bluntly.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me at all. And with Virginia Giuffre,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I did a whole series on this, actually. There's like
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: 10 episodes to this whole thing. And I should probably
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: go back and look into it again because it was
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: starting to get really popular. But there were so many
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: other things that were going on. But I 100% believe
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: that it was her husband that killed her. She had
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: filed a restraining order against him earlier in that year
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of her death. And he turned around and said that
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: he was the one that was abusing him and then
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: took away her kids. That's what started this entire thing
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: in that post that she made on Twitter. You know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: if she was alive or she wasn't alive, the one
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: that she made on Instagram where her face was beat up,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: she was like, I just want to see my kids again.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: This is like a last-ditch effort to see my kids.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And she had told her family that her husband was
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: beating her. So I believe that the car crash was
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a setup, like an excuse for... her to go to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: the hospital and not go to the hospital because her
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: husband beat her to an inch of her life. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: she was so bruised up because that would just end
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: up backfiring on her. Just like the restraining order ended
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: up backfiring on her earlier in that year. Right? So
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: she couldn't go to the hospital with, with her injuries
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: and then blame it on her husband because I wouldn't work.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: There had to be another excuse as to the reason.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: And she also told her, uh, sister-in-law and her brother
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: that she was afraid that if she got into another
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: altercation with her husband that she wasn't going to make
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: it out alive. Okay, so That's really all. And they
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: have stated this. There was an interview that they'd done
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: while she was in the hospital during that two-week period. Now,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: whether you believe that she was actually alive is irrelevant,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: kind of. But her sister-in-law and her brother said that.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, that's all the real evidence
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that you kind of need. And if you take the
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: bus accident, not at face value. And that's something that
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: was because she wasn't in the car. You're 100% correct.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: The bus driver said that there was just an elderly woman,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: but the elderly woman could have been the person that
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: was working for, uh, Virginia Jeffrey chauffeur.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: So then they turned around and said that Virginia was
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: in the car so that they could get her to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the hospital and then explain away her injuries from her
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: husband beating her as, uh, that they came from the
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: bus accident.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those ones, Ryder. I mean,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: will we ever really know truly what happened to Virginia
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and the horrors that she may have seen? Because there
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: was a lot of names in that Epstein file that
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: no one wants to talk about. And it seems to
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: be that we're heading ever further towards the re-conspiratizing of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the files. Because Is anyone ever going to really believe
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that files were released and no one was arrested?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And she would have been the number
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: one backer and.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Poster child. Yep. The poster child of it, bro. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: what do you think about Epstein's fiancee, Mrs. Alleged daughter
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: who inherited the 450 million estate and, the Zorro range,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like somebody should be having some conversations with
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that woman. Can anyone remember her name? I think it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Julie something. I can't remember. Let me just double-check this.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that they didn't even investigate Zorro Ranch.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Well, they did. They just waited. They just waited a long, long, long...
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Karina Shulak, that was it. or, yeah, Karuna Shulak, that's
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: her name. Let me pull her up. You'll maybe recognize
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: her face. This woman. Because this is the new owner
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: of Zorro Ranch. This woman got $ 450 million. Maxwell got
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: $ 10 million. The same amount as Epstein's pilot got from
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: his estate. And people don't know if it's his wife,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend, his fiance, his daughter, what. But this is
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the new face of allegedly of evil now. What's your
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: take on her? You got any take on her?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: You know how Epstein got all of his money, right?
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: He was just scamming banks. He would put a bunch
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: of money into the bank and then he would take
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: out a loan on all the money that he put
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: into the bank and then he would take that loan
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: and then take it to another bank and then do
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the exact same thing, rinse and repeat. And then it
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: looked like that he had millions of dollars at every
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: one of these banks. Then you get big credit lines
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and loans and you don't have to pay taxes on loans.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Alright, alright, alright. You just keep doing that. You just
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: keep doing that, right? Okay, alright, I'm going to write
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that down. I'll use my powers for good though, Ryder. Okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: do you know what I'm saying? That's an interesting one.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: But again, with Epstein, he seemed to be everywhere, right?
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Why do you think he had this grip and his
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: finger stuck in all these pies? Was he just the
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: designated fall guy for multiple areas? Is it easier to
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: consolidate all the evil doing into one person so that
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: when he's gone, he's gone?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: What's your take on that? Because he was nothing short
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: of motivated. I'll tell you that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Well, if you listen to the Steve Bannon and Jeffrey
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Epstein interview, there's a lot of information that you can
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: glean from that interview. I think that it was like
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: four hours long, but reportedly there were like 18 hours
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: more of Steve Bannon sitting down with Epstein. And just
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: in that four hours, you can get a lot of
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: ideas of, you know, where, what Epstein was doing and
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: why he was doing it. And he was also really
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: interested in like unexplainable things, like paranormal things that can't
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: be explained. I mean, he had like scientific or he
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: was funding scientific organizations to try and discover like, things
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: about time travel and like all kinds of like weird things.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: And I think you get to a point when, where
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you have so much money, but again, the money isn't
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: really real. The money is just on paper. He's just
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: rich on paper. He's got, he probably had like you,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the people listening to this podcast probably have more money
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: in their bank account than Jeffrey Epstein had in his
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: bank account. He just knew how the banking system worked
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and how to essentially use the banking system to his
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: advantage by taking out loans with banks that are non-taxable.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Because when you get a loan from a bank, you're
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: not taxed on that money. So I think that you
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: get to a point where you have so much money
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: that you just go into whatever thing that you like, you're,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you started looking into the paranormal stuff. So it's kind
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: of like the, the opposite end of the spectrum. There
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: was actually a guy, I did an interview recently for this, um,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: guy in Irvine, California, where he's doing like a thesis paper.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: And I was supposed to be anonymous, but I was like,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you use my name or not.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Like I'm a public figure. I, you know, I'm a
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: movie director and it was about conspiracies.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: And he created this chart of the wealth of people
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: that watch this type of content, right? The people that
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: are really fascinated by the unexplainable things and ancient history
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: and the alternative viewpoints of the mainstream narrative, right? which
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: it has increased in the past, you know, three to
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: four years, uh, a lot to do with COVID, but
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: he had made this chart and he showed that this
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: type of, uh, community is really popular with the people
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: that don't have a lot of money. Right. That, that don't,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: because they want to blame people outside of themselves for
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: their problems.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: For their money issues. And then it thins out as
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: it goes down. So the more money you make, the
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: less people care about these types of topics until you
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: get to the super rich. And then it flips back
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: around to the exact same types of people that were
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: interested in and on the other side. There's this threshold
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: there that it's like, if you're.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's by design? Your minimum wage.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Your upper middle class, your kind of high class, you're
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: not really paying attention to any of this stuff because
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: you don't really care because you got a good job
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: and you don't want to ruin that good job, right?
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: But whenever you're to that point to where none of
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: that matters anymore and you're on the other side of
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the less fortunate people on the spectrum, then you're right
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: back to where they are.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that's by design, though? Do you think, though,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: that if the lower echelons have just enough contract with
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the mid echelons and the mid echelons are pushing back
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: against the lower echelons, it creates this buffer of illusion
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that the people at the top couldn't possibly be of
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: that mind as well?
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I think that it does. And I just thought that
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: that chart was really interesting. And that's not down on anybody.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I just thought I was like, wow, it seems like
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: the less fortunate people are really into this. And then
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the super uber rich are also really into it as well.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: So it's like the polar opposites on each side of
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: the spectrum are really into these types of topics. But
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: it's getting way more popular. mainstream, uh, now than it
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: ever has, you know, so it's becoming a really popular
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: thing within all groups of people, no matter how much
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: money you make or what your circumstances in life are,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: which I believe is a 100% good thing because we
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: need more people that are, um, you know, open-minded and
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: that are looking deep and digging into these things. Because again, it's,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: it's so convoluted and there's so many different things and
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: people just want to give up, right? They just want
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: to be like, okay, well, it was that, it was the, again,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: it goes back to the soul shooter thing or the
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: entire event is fake, right? That's another problem with kind
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: of what we're talking about here, Ron, is that things
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: can be so challenging to figure out that the easiest
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: way to figure it out is to say that it
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: didn't happen, that it was fake, right? And that is
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: a really big problem that we've been faced with here.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: And whenever you say that, you completely destroy and ruin
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: any kind of discussion to the contrary, right? You just
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: shut down any weird anomalies or any strange, because it's
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: all just chalked up to being fake. I mean, the
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk assassination is a perfect example of that. is
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: that it's such a convoluted and so many moving parts
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: and so many people involved for it to be pulled
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: off that people would rather not have to juggle all
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: of that and remember all of that. And they would
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: rather just say that the whole thing was fake, right?
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%. It's the equivalent of putting your hand over
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: a naked flame and your brain pulling your hand back
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It's the conversational version of that,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: And there's nothing against those people. I do believe that
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: there are staged and faked things, but not everything is
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: staged and faked. And it's a case-by-case basis that we
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: kind of have to go on here. And that's just
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: the easiest way to discredit and getting to the bottom
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: of everything. And I'll tell you how I know that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk assassination was not faked is because TPUSA
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: does not care about About people calling it fake.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: They do it. They just it does not matter to them.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: It doesn't register. They do not take the time to
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: debunk people that believe that the Charlie Kirk assassination is fake.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: So if it really was, then they would take the
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: time to be like, that's not true. But they don't
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: and they don't care. And in fact, they would rather
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: encourage it because they want some kind of thing to
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: happen to the people that are saying that the entire
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: thing is fake. Like what happened to Alex Jones saying
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: that that one event was fake. Yeah. they want that
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: to happen to people so that they can take them
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: to court and you know win a lot of money
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Which those people that were involved in that case are
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: probably never going to see any of that money. But
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that's besides the point. They want to be able to
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: take down people and ruin a free speech on these
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: platforms that has taken us so long to be able
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: to get. They now want to start to censor people
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: that just have alternative theories and opinions. I have no
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: problem with people thinking that whatever is fake, they can
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: have their opinion.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: And they're entitled to that. That's their amendment right. To
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: have that opinion and to voice that opinion. But it's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: a dangerous thing when they can use that opinion to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: then turn around and sue people for having that opinion,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: just like what was done with Alex Jones. And I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: fear that something like that could happen with some influencers
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: that are making those types of claims.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think we're going to see more propaganda
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: and more control over new media narratives, whether it's shills
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: in place or the silencing of those pushing the messages
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: out even more than we are now?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I do fear that eventually. But right now I'm just basking.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I'm basking in it because I love it. You know
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: what I mean? It's so nice to be able to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: just say whatever you want to be able to say
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. what these platforms are. So I really don't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: even want to think about what's going to happen in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the future because I just really want to enjoy the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: moment that we have now because it seems to be
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: just a free for all. You would think it's so
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: weird because tip talk is actually now more restrictive than
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: anywhere else. Like you can get down on day and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: tech talk used to be one of the more openly
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: free platforms. platforms that you can kind of get on
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: and say whatever you want on. And you couldn't do
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: that on Facebook or YouTube or anything else.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, right? Because I've noticed this shift. TikTok allows
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a much quicker rise to viral content, right? Which gives
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: a return of clout, but not a return of finances.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: And on YouTube, YouTube, of course, we've seen the spur
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: of 18, 20-year-old, 30-year-old millionaires blowing up on YouTube. And
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I think... I don't think that worked the agenda very well,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: having given people an ability to become self-sustainable so quickly
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: with a platform like YouTube. And they replaced it with
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: almost like a financial reduction of about 99%, but a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: faster ability to grow in a clout or social media
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: fame sense. So it doesn't surprise me that they're going
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: to heavily restrict that because I think more people are
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: going to gravitate to the easier option. And when the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: easier option is growing at the rate that it does,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: it's helping silence and restrict more people. Because, I mean,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: TikTok shop and a lot of these places, I mean,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: they're becoming the thing of, like, reaction content legendary status
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: for the nonsense that goes on over there. Do you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: think that that restriction is paramount to... YouTube being favored
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: for mainstream media going forward and truth seekers being pushed
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: on a secondary platforms that are already pre preloaded with restrictions.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: That's a really fascinating question. And I think YouTube has
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: always been the platform, even when people were being censored
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: on there and they had to go to other platforms,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: it's still the majority of people would always go to YouTube.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: No matter what, YouTube has always been the go-to platform.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: The other platforms were kind of created in response to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: people being deplatformed. And not a lot of those have
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: really survived. Rockfin didn't survive. Odyssey, no one is on
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Odyssey anymore. I think the only one that kind of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: survived out of that was Rumble. So you basically have,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: you know, YouTube and Rumble as long form video content.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Those are the main two. So I can't see them
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: doing some kind of restrictive thing again, since the floodgates
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: have kind of already been opened. But you are right
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: about the money thing. They made it harder for you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: to be able to make money on your videos. They
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: want you to be doing all kinds of extra shit, right?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: They want you to tag products in the actual video.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: They want you to sell things. They want you to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: push out other people's products and other people's things to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: be able to make it. YouTube is essentially now a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: giant affiliate company.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing that scares me. If we see
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: what's going on on YouTube spread as a general context
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: to Google analytical terms of service, we're going to see
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: a restriction on search results coming back on Google for
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: places like Rumble. We're going to see agendas be pushed
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: out next. How far can they push our ability to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: silence us? Well, you know, if you're not going to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: fall in line with YouTube's TOS, then why should Google
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: promote your website? I think that's what we're going to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: see moving forward and it's going to be interesting to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: see sites like Rumble whether or not they'll have to
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: fall into touch or whether or not they'll continue to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: survive if a rollout like that takes place.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I can see a potential buyout of Rumble.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Hell yeah. You know once that fat check
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: arrives from Google, that's going to change some minds. Do
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Let's be honest. If you're
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: just a few guys that start up a website and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Google comes along with 500 600 million straight up in
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: your hand a lot of people that's gonna that's gonna
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: sway them.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's how you really do it you just buy
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the competition right right that's what psa did the grading company.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Uh bro did you know the guy that the ceo
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: of psa is in the files no way really bro
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: the the guy yeah Not only in the files, photographed
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and in multiple occasions went to the island and all
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: this stuff. The guy that runs PSA, yeah.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I knew I didn't like PSA, bro.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Bro, listen. $ 80 a card. $ 80 a card.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: What, mate? It's mad. Anyway, let's not rant. Sooner or later,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: we're going to bring up the 30th anniversary collection and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the scalpers, and I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, 30th anniversary is crazy right now. Yeah,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: but that's kind of like the whole name of the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: game is that you just buy out your competition. That's
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: what the PSA bought Beckett, right? Which Beckett is another
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: premier grading card service. So they just bought them. So
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well, what are they going to do next?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Are they going to buy a tag next? I mean,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's going to be the next thing.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: big one i don't think they really care about um
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: cgc or ags no one really cares about.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Those but i don't think i think if you see
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: it's tags format that made tag do you see what
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: i'm saying so about saying that fat checks a fat
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: check do you know i mean it really does but
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: yeah absorbing the the competition so i mean i i
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: think you're not far off with Google Acquire and Rumble
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: make and steamroll on their way through and eventually do
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: you think then riderly do you think that we will
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: then get to a point of social conditioning that there's
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: no point now even attempting to go to other platforms
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: and then that'll extend to well there's no point in
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: setting up new platforms and then by the time we
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: get two or three generations down the line we've subconsciously
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: fallen into touch through cultural like norms I guess.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Well, what we're seeing right now is this really strange
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: and weird phenomena of people trying to get into this space,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: like older actors or washed up people that think that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: they can just do a podcast because people have... I mean,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Netflix now has... They're calling them podcasts, but they're not
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: really podcasts. That's not a podcast. A podcast, in order
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: to have a podcast, you have to have an audio
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: only version of your show. But anyway, that's besides the point.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: That's semantics, right? But we have this idea that people
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: can just do things. And if they have enough money
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: backing them, that they can just get into this space,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: you know? And I've been doing this for six years now,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: you know, and I feel like that I've and it's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: not super huge, but I feel like I've built up
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: a version of credibility. But these people think that they
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: don't have to do that, right? That they can just
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: come in and that they have everything kind of handed
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: to them and given to them. But they realize that
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: this is a lot of work, dude. This is like
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: a freaking full-time job in order to put on a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: show just like this and do it all the time
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: and the clips and the social media and everything that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: you have to control. It's like having a full-time freaking job, dude.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: And you just can't get on there and ramble about,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can. You can do really whatever you want,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: but in order to build an audience, you just can't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: buy your audience. It doesn't work. That's what they're finding
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: out in these spaces. is that you just can't buy
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: your audience.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: No, I think people are sick of a lot of
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: crap now. They want authenticity in people that they're watching.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I think we're even coming to the end of the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: quick cut, fast, uh, edit era. And now as well,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: people just want to have a bit more of a natural, um,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: content experience from what I'm seeing. Wow.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: That is really the thing that I've seen as well.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you also are recognizing that too, because, um,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: it's become like this, this over the sensory overload thing
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: where everything is like real fast and like flashy. And
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: it's like, I understand what they're trying to do. They're
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: trying to hook you in into watching the rest of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: the video, but it's just not working anymore. And, uh,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: things are changing and people would rather just watch someone, uh,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: sitting there and speaking into a camera.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, let's, let's circle back to your, to your
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: latest movie, right? The, the, the gate program. Sorry, I've
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: got hair in my mouth. And let's just remind people
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: of the extent of how widespread all this was. And
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: if it was a global or more of a Western
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: hemisphere situation, what is the scope of it? And just
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: remind people again of the film, if you can.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: It's called Psychic Agent, The Gate Program. If you're in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the United States, you can go to Amazon Prime and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: rent it or buy it. If you're not in the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: United States, you can use a VPN and also get
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: access to it that way. And also, if you're in
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: the United States, I have DVD copies available of the movie,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Psychic Agent, The Gate Program, if people are interested in
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: purchasing a dvd copy of the movie they can do
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: so by emailing me at raised by giants at outlook.com
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: and we can set up a way that i can
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: get you a dvd copy but i can't ship to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: outside of the united states because it's too much money
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: um it's like 30 dollars to ship a freaking uh
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: one package out to uh overseas so where uh how
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: expansive this was so We have the MKUltra subprojects tailored
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: toward discovering, unlocking, and the study of psychic abilities. MKUltra
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: subproject 83 and subproject 136 literally talk about psychic testing
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: on children. MKUltra subproject 102 is a summer camp project
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: where the CIA was collecting data on 462 children. Now,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: millions of children have been through these gait programs since
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: the 60s. So in the 70s in the United States,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: parents got really upset because they tried to go to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: the public schools and get their child's school records. And
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: they realized that they couldn't get them. And they discovered
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: that the reason that they couldn't get their child's school
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: records was because the CIA had access to them. The
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: school was giving them all to the CIA. The child
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: school records to the CIA, right? So all the parents
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: got together and decided to create a bill that would
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: give them access to their child's school records. And this
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: was called FERPA, the Parents' Rights and Privacy Act, which
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: gave parents their child's school records back. But the CIA
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: slipped in an amendment to FERPA, which allowed the CIA
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: to continue to give the kids school records. And then
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: they just started changing the names of the programs from
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: the standard gifted and talented education to, you know, TAG.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Something else happened. And would that inhibit the parents from
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: getting access because they didn't know the name of the program?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Well, it didn't really inhibit them. It still gave them
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: the right to get access, but it didn't take away
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: the CIA's right to get access. So they did get access,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: but it didn't get rid of... It.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Didn't solve the problem.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: It didn't solve the problem, right? And then when 9-11
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: happened with the Patriot Act, In the United States, it
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: also just completely destroyed any remnants that was left over
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: from FERPA because now we can just get access to
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: whatever records that we want under the guise of national
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: security because of terrorism. So that's one of the things
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: that was slipped into the Patriot Act as well. So literally...
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: all that they would have to do, uh, if they,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: if they couldn't regularly get access to the school records,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: they could just, uh, say that they needed access to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: a certain school records because of, uh, domestic terrorism.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Wild. If you guys have got any questions, put up
• 1:14:32
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• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: the links are in the description. If I can ask
• 1:14:36
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• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed. So, Ryder, what's your take on
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: where the outcome of this is going? There's a lot
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: of chatter about 2030. There's a lot of chatter about
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of things. Do you think we're building up
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: to a cataclysmic event that is going to spearhead the next...
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: chapter of humanity, whether it's the AI age, whether it's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: the next level of a control, aliens, what do you
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: think the end game is going to be?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of impossible to predict, but there is
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of, I mean, we have Agenda 2030. There's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: definitely something that they need to do before this time,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: before 2030 and then into 2030. And I think that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: it has to do with, uh, has a big part
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: to do with AI. I mean, Lynn Buchanan says, uh,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: I just had him on. He's actually in my, in
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: the movie, psychic agent, the gate program. Uh, he's a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: DIA army intelligence remote viewer. And he says that he
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: did this project or the government back in, uh, I
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: think is early two thousands where he would look, uh,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: 50 years into the future. He would remote view 50
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: years in the future and kind of get the idea
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: of what was going on. And he said that from
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: 2030 to 2040, there was this series of Nash, uh,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: natural disasters that, man-made natural disasters that wiped out 75%
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: of the population. Now, that's not me being fear propaganda.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: That's just what he said.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I can't, you know, be like, it's not going to
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: happen or it's going to happen. I don't know. Nobody
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: really knows. I'm just telling you what he said. And
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: you can watch that episode on my channel on raised
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: by giants. It's the latest episode that I just put
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: out with Lynn Buchanan. And so that's what he said.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: He said that, that, you know, we basically have the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: ability to create, you know, and modify the weather and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: that we can just create giant tornadoes and hurricanes and
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: fires and what just think that people have been talking
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: about for a really long time. But he said that
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: he viewed all this back in the early 2000s. So
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, could that be? And that's been
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: a thing that a lot of people have said for
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: a really long time. is that that's how they're going
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: to get people out of rural areas and get them
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: into these smart cities and then into central locations was
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: to do man-made natural disasters. So they would just burn
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: people out or flood people out of these.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, what's your take on
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: the Nepal disaster that just happened?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with that one. I've kind of been
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: on a little off-grid shows.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: The, uh, the, the, the flood in China and Nepal
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: that just happened. Um, you mean, I don't know if
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: you missed that one, but I did. You missed, you
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: missed the Nepal China flood.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. I've just been doing these shows and promoting
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: the movie and doing my own show and basically just
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: on this topic. So I haven't been looking.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: That's okay. Like, I'm going to show you something, man, that,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: For the rest of your life, neither of us will
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: witness a scene like this ever.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the one where the giant wave comes through
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: and then wrecks that entire... Yeah, I think I saw
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: some of it, yes. But I was kind of interested in, though,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Ron is like... how did they get that footage?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: It's the same camera they used when they let off
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: that nuclear bomb and filmed it, I think. Do you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: remember the nuclear explosion footage? This one here, bro. It's crazy.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. What we're seeing here is
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: a camera, but it doesn't mean the camera is anywhere
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: close to where this is happening.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: To get that clear of image, you would have to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: be that close, but yeah.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, listen, you know, if you're being sold CCTV,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: it's 12 K footage you're seeing, but the minute a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: crime happens, it drops down to potato quality footage, right?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: It's a conspiracy. I don't know why, but for me,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: this could very well be a camera that is hundreds
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: and hundreds of feet away from and they're just dialed
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: in on this scene, it would make sense, right? But
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Play the clip until the... Because I think the camera
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: gets covered with stuff, like the flood. So how did
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: they get access to the footage? Is this a video?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: On the cloud, mate. It's on the cloud. It's always
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: on the cloud. But this is bonkers footage, bro. Look
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: at this. I mean, look at that. I mean, these
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: are buses. Look at them. Look at the buses. Dude.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Look at this.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: They conveniently do a fade right whenever it gets closer.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that was because of how many people
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: were still on camera. There were still a bunch of
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: people running. This is bonkers, Ryder. I mean, look at this.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: How does that camera survive? There isn't usually a cut there.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: They're just cutting because of, again, the people that are there. Well,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: who's to say where the camera is? This is the thing.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: But bananas, bro. I mean, what's your take? Are we
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: looking at a man-made disaster here? You think this was
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a targeted test drive? Because this, everything you said about
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: rural areas is exactly what took place here. Right? Like, it's...
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: It's houses made out of tin and wood stacked on
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: top of each other. It's rural areas. It's businesses and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: everything that have just been washed away. I mean, look
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: at this. Look at this. That's a bridge that used
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: to hold people and cars, mate. Look at this. See ya. Gonzo.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: That is the thing of Nightmares Rider.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: And that's what Lynn has said that will possibly happen
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: in the future, but everywhere. And that they will use
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: floods and they will use earthquakes and they will use
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: fires to get people out of, you know, rural areas
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: to put them into. And the people that don't comply
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: will just be, you know, killed. I mean, this kind
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: of looks like, I mean, and that's not to say
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: that you know, the natural things don't happen. Of course,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: mother nature is unpredictable. I mean, you know, there's things
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: that happen all the time. Real earthquakes happen all the time.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Real volcano eruptions happen all the time. You know, hurricanes
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: happen all the time. So it's just one of those
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: things that you kind of just got to do a
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: case by case base and, and just be like, you know,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: does this, Does this make sense to have happened at
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: this time? Was there any kind of other agenda? You know,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: was there a reason that whole Maui was, you know,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: completely fired out? You know, was there a reason that
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Northern California there in like 2020 to 2021 was completely
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: on fire and Oregon was on fire and Washington was
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: on fire and all these wildfires everywhere, you know, is
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: there an agenda behind that? And then you can go
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: back throughout history and, I mean, pretty much just go
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: to any big country around the world and type in
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: the city of whatever country and then type in Great Fires.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Put in the Great Fire of San Francisco. Put in
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: the Great Fire of Chicago. The Great Fire of Philadelphia
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: in the United States. I don't really know. You can
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: put in the Kremlin. The Kremlin caught on fire.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the great 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: That completely destroyed San Francisco. It completely destroyed Chicago. Like,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: so many of these, I mean, this has been happening
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: for a really long time, and the easiest way to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: do something to get rid of any kind of old
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: world or the remnant of anything that you don't want
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: around anymore is to burn it to the ground or
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: flood it.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: It's true. It's true.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: So if you want to get rid of, uh, you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: don't want people talking about this and this kind of
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: gets into, you know, a lot of the insane asylum
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: stuff that was going on in the, um, 1800s and
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: into the 1900s in the United States. And some people
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: have theorized that a lot of these insane asylums were
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: for people that, you know, um, wouldn't shut up about
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: the old world and would, uh, yeah, that's exactly right. Um,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: electric universe, 56, uh, London fire. You know, there's so many, uh,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: To the insane asylum thing, people have claimed that all
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: these insane asylums popping up were to get people to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: shut up about this old world and this old technology.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: How many cities have been built on top of much
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: older cities?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Why is anyone building a city on top of a city?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine if your local area was going to
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: get new houses built and they're like, we're just going
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: to build these on top of the old ones? Because
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Edinburgh's got like half another Edinburgh underneath it. That's just standard.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Like what's that about? And that's a serious question, right?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Or what is that actually about? At what point in
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: time did we just put new towns on stilts? Cause
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: that's basically what we're talking about here.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: And that gets into like some form of flood, you know,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: people will call that the mud flood where they, you know,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: they're trying to cover up the, the soul, this old world,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: because we were very advanced back in the day. And then,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: We just came in and wrecked and killed everybody that
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: knew how to do anything. That's the whole thing here
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: is that if you killed everybody that knows how to
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: do stuff, then you're basically starting over for nothing. And
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: this is how we get a lot of the pyramids
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: that have other civilizations have come in and tried to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: figure out how to build the pyramids. And then you
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: can see their version of the pyramid that's not quite
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: as good as the original was. It's lumpy, it's loppy
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: and it's falling over. It's really badly made. And then
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: you get these civilizations that think that they can do
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: what had already been done. And that it's been there for,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: it's just like they, they just founded it. Right. That
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: that's the difference between established and found there. There's, uh,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of documentation just within the United States,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: you know, because that's where I live and that's really
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: all that I can talk to. But you can definitely
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: tell me about the places where you live as well.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: A lot of them say founded. So we founded San Francisco.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: We founded a lot of these big places. Right. Well,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: founded means that you like the stuff was already there.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: And you came in and you took it over is
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: really what's going on. But established means that you created it,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: that you made it from nothing. So in a lot
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: of places around the United States was founded.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, do you think there's a greater
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: significance to that, though?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's a really great significance because it kind
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: of shows that, you know, how much was here while
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: we got here and what was going on with these
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: world's fairs. I mean, there was world's fairs, like literally
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: all over the world. It wasn't just in the United States,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: but these massive structures that were just erected in like
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: two years. Like you're telling me you're making a giant
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: fair where millions of people showed up. Basically the entire
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: population of the United States in the late 1800s all
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: showed up to this fair. Where did they stay?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: That's a really good question though. It was just the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: way you said it. That was, that was good. It's
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: true though. Where did they stay?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: So, and you're telling me that you made, you know, uh,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: San Francisco look like downtown, like Rome in a matter
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: of two years, you built these giant cathedrals in two years. Now,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: how long it takes to build a cathedral, like an
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: actual real cathedral, 10 to 20 years, even now, I mean,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: no one builds cathedrals anymore, but you know some of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: the ones in you know in London and in the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: UK and other places around the world you know there's
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: documentation of how long it took to build them and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: it takes a long time you just can't build a
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: giant cathedral in two years and make everything look like
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Rome right in the United States in two years, you know?
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: So what actually happened, but then there's also ones like, um,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Chicago and some other world's fairs that were just like sets,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: you know? But the thing about it is, is that
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: they just burned all this stuff down after the fair
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: was over. You would think that if you built all
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: this stuff up and this is this amazing architecture that
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: you would take it down and then save it or
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: put it someplace else, kind of like how fairs are
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: done now. Like if you went to your state fair
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: or your county fair now, they don't destroy all of
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: the rides after the fair is over. They just collapse
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: down all the rides and they take it to the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: next fair, right?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really make sense when you start saying it
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: out loud, even just a little bit. Right. It really
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't take to destroy. Everything seems ludicrous. It really does. And,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: and the, the scale of it and the accommodation factor,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: where's everybody pooping? Do you know what I mean? There's,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: there's that too.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Where's the horse shit.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: They're all, they're all in, uh, they're all riding horses.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Where's all the horse poop going? And why is there
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: no photos of any of the horse poop on, on
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: the streets? You would think that the entire streets would
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: be full of horse poop for the amount of people.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: That's funny. That's why all the New York homes have
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: got steps up from the sidewalks. It used to be
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: because of all the horse poop. Fun fact.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: You don't want to be stepping in the horse poop.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Literally, it was four feet high. You've got to understand
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: the time that we were living in here. There was
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of poop. A lot of horse poop.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because horses, and that was our main mode of transportation.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: But a lot of things came out of these World's
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Fairs that we, you know, due to this very day,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: the first idea of a passport came from the World's Fair.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: An ID, a consensus came. They would have people fill
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: out how many, you know, people that are in their family,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: where they live. It was a census. Like they would
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: go in and fill out and then give it to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: the world's fair where they would get these tickets and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: then they would be able to go in, you know,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: they had side attractions. They had moving sidewalks. This is
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: the late 1800s did like moving sidewalks.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Reportedly, uh, electric cars. This was the first time that people,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of people saw electricity. Was that these world's
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: fairs and, uh, babies. Dude, Just babies in incubators. Just
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: a bunch of babies. Just rows of incubators. And people
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: were coming up and being like.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, a baby!
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it. Like, what do you mean you've
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: never seen a baby before? It was so weird, dude.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: It's so weird. It's so weird and so strange. And
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: it doesn't make a lot of sense. And the only
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: thing that I can think of is that it's like
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: a That is some kind of repopulation that some big
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: catastrophe happened that killed a lot of people. And there
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: were some sort of repopulation going on.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm with you. It's wild. Do you think we'll
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: ever truly get all knowledge unlocked and figure what the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: hell the truth is of this spinning ball writer?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I don't because I think that that's what makes a
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: space special. It's what makes things here the way that
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: they are is that we don't have all the information
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: and we're here to try and figure it out and
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: put all the puzzle pieces together. And sometimes we get
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: stuff wrong. As long as it comes from a genuine
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: place of honesty and authenticity, then you're good. Yeah.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the truth will always set you free.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: And as long as we live in a world where
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: the truth will never, ever be agreed upon simultaneously by
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the whole world, we'll always be a mix of people
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: at peace and those chasing it. And, you know, Ryder,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: before we finish up, what's next from Ryder Lee? What
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: would you want to tell us about what you've got
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: coming up? What is your next project, brother? And remind us,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: of course, of the current film and where we can
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: Well, there's actually something else that I wanted to bring
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: up on the lines of the Virginia Jeffrey thing. There
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: were several other people that actually unalive themselves other than
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Virginia afraid that were Jeffrey Epstein victims. One of those
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: was Caroline Andreano, who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell in 2001,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: died of a drug overdose in 2023. Okay, Leah Sky Patrick,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: which was also an early Epstein victim, also died of
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: an accidental drug overdose in 2017. And these were in
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: the same area, both of these people out of Florida,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: and they both were found dead in hotel rooms. So
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: just a little tidbit that not a lot of people
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these are the names that need to be remembered. um,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: maybe I have to come and talk about them, Ryder,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: if you want. Absolutely. I would love to. I think that,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a really good idea. We'll
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: get Sarah to set something up, you know, telling the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: stories of the other, the other victims who can't tell
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: their stories now. Cause I never knew that. And I,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: I would, I would, I would love to have you
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: back for that Ryder. So if you want to, if
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: you want to do that, I think that'd be great. Yeah,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: that would be great. I would love to do that.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: Uh, really appreciate it. Um, Yeah, let's get that set up.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: And if people are interested, uh, they can watch my
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: movie psychic agent, the gate program available on Amazon prime. Uh,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: if we can get a, hopefully get a link in
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: the description only.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Uh, click the link in the description to watch my
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: movie psychic agent, the gate program on Amazon prime. And
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: if you're in the United States and you would like
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: a DVD copy of the movie, uh, email me at raisedbygiantsatoutlook.com
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: and we'll get you a DVD copy of the movie
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: sent out. Physical media is going to be really important.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: It seems like they want to digitize everything and make
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: everything digital. They want your records digital. They want your
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: medical records digital. They want everything to be digital. And
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: there's a reason that they want everything to be digital
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: because they can easily control it and just share it
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: and they can make edits and they can change things.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: when it's digital. So with a physical copy, it's never
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: getting changed. Uh, thanks so much for having me on brother.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. If people could, uh, want to find
• 1:36:12
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• 1:36:14
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• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: look forward to speaking with you again, brother. Thank you.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: You're very, very welcome. I'm going to be live in
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: about 30 minutes over on my channel, going over, uh,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: the latest of my music and having a little chat
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: about some mystical shizniz that we've been, uh, discussing the
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: last few nights delving back into palladians and maybe looking
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: at some of these oracle cards and we'll see what's
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: happening if you want to come and join us i'll
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: post a link for you right now and i do
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: believe possibly there's another show with sean tonight it wasn't
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: booked in when we started but i don't know if
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: shane's got something happening for tonight so if there's nothing
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: there and you want to come and join me i'll
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: see you within half an hour rider we'll see you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: again very very soon to the mods to the side
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: chat to you sat at home thank you so much
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: for being here i appreciate all your support and we'll
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: see you the next one peace