Latest / Stagflation Conversations with Fexingo: High Inflation, Slow Growth, and 1970s Echoes / The Quiet Crisis of Underfunded Pensions
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- Lucas: Look at the Dow sitting at fifty-two thousand eight hundred sixty-eight today. It’s a nice number to wake up to, especially with small caps like the Russell showing that two point three percent gain over the last five days. On the surface, the macro environment feels stable, maybe even optimistic. Luna: It does, but you know me. I always look for where the cracks might be hiding when everyone else is admiring the paint job. What’s the one thing in the background that doesn’t show up in those index numbers? Lucas: The pension gap. Specifically, the unfunded liability crisis facing American municipalities and states. While the S&P five hundred is busy digesting tech earnings, city councils and state legislatures are staring down balance sheets that are increasingly out of whack. We’re talking about defined benefit plans that were sold as ironclad guarantees, now struggling against a backdrop of low growth and sticky inflation. Luna: Right, because the assumptions they made twenty years ago don’t match the reality of today’s interest rate environment. Is it really just about the math, or is it more structural than that? Lucas: It’s both, but the math is brutal. Let’s look at the ten-year Treasury yield, which anchors so much of their discount rate calculations. Even though yields have ticked up slightly from recent lows, many public pension funds are still using expected returns of seven or eight percent to project their future assets. When the actual market return falls short of that assumption, the hole in the plan widens instantly. Luna: So they’re essentially gambling that the market will keep delivering double-digit beats just to stay solvent? That sounds like a recipe for sudden contribution spikes. Lucas: Exactly. And here is the concrete detail most people miss: the cost isn’t just paid by retirees. It’s paid by current taxpayers and users of public services. When a city like Chicago or Detroit, or any mid-sized municipality with a massive legacy burden, sees its required contribution jump by a billion dollars, they don’t just print money. They raise property taxes or cut police and fire staffing. Luna: That’s a direct drag on local quality of life. Does the federal government step in to help, or is this strictly a local problem? Lucas: Federal help is virtually nonexistent. In fact, the dynamic has shifted. We saw earlier this year that real GDP growth was only two point two percent annualized. That sluggish growth means slower wage growth, which means slower income tax revenue for states. You have a pincer movement: rising costs on the liability side and flattening revenue on the income side. Luna: I remember reading about how some states tried to shift to defined contribution plans to escape this, but couldn't get the unions to agree. Is that still the main sticking point? Lucas: It is. Political suicide is the primary blocker. Politicians love signing bills that promise generous pensions because it buys votes today. The bill comes due in fifteen years, by which time they’ve retired or moved on to Congress. So we’re left with these giant, underfunded trusts that are too big to fail but too expensive to maintain. Luna: So who actually takes the hit first? Is it the teachers, the firefighters, or the rank and file civil servants? Lucas: It varies, but typically it hits the newer employees hardest. Many plans have frozen benefits for new hires or raised the retirement age. But for existing members, the threat is usually non-monetary contributions. You see increased employee contributions to the fund itself. If your take-home pay drops five percent because you’re subsidizing your own past salary’s pension, that’s a de facto pay cut in a high-inflation environment. Luna: Five percent is huge when you’re already dealing with core CPI being stuck around three percent. That eats directly into disposable income. Lucas: Precisely. And let’s not forget the investment strategy shift. To chase those eight percent returns, pension boards often load up on private equity and venture capital. They move away from safe government bonds. If those illiquid assets don’t perform, or if there’s a liquidity crunch, the whole house of cards trembles. Luna: That’s a risky bet. Private equity can be volatile. Are we seeing actual defaults or bankruptcies in the public sector yet? Lucas: True bankruptcy is rare because cities can raise taxes. But we are seeing financial distress signals. We’ve seen credit rating downgrades for several major metros recently. When Moody’s or S&P downgrades a city’s bond rating, it makes borrowing more expensive for everything from schools to road repairs. The penalty is immediate and spreads across the community. Luna: It feels like a slow-moving disaster. Most investors are watching the NASDAQ, not the municipal bond market. Why should the average listener care about this right now? Lucas: Because it affects your local property tax bill and your job security. If your employer is a school district or a county agency, budget constraints driven by pension costs can mean hiring freezes or delayed raises. It’s a subtle wage suppression mechanism that operates entirely outside the national payroll data. Luna: That’s a sharp angle. It explains why wages feel stagnant even when the headline unemployment is low. The savings aren’t going to workers' pockets; they’re going to pension funds. Lucas: Spot on. And here is the irony. As we discussed, jobless claims are near historic lows. The labor market is tight. Yet, the fiscal capacity to absorb that labor without raising prices or cutting services is being eroded by these legacy obligations. Luna: So the economy is strong enough to employ people, but the government wallet is too heavy to support them properly. That’s a fascinating contradiction. Lucas: It is. And it’s getting worse because demographic shifts are changing the ratio of workers to retirees. Fewer active contributors supporting more beneficiaries. It’s a mathematical inevitability unless you change the rules of the game. Luna: Have any states successfully reformed their systems recently without causing a political revolt? Lucas: Colorado did something interesting a few years back. They created a hybrid plan for new hires that combines a smaller defined benefit with a defined contribution component. It stabilized their projections. But it required tough conversations and compromise. Most places are still dragging their feet. Luna: Dragging their feet until what? Until a recession forces their hand? Lucas: Exactly. In a downturn, asset values drop and tax revenues vanish simultaneously. That’s the worst possible scenario for an underfunded pension. You lose on both ends of the equation. That’s when you start seeing emergency measures, like delaying infrastructure projects or laying off contract workers. Luna: It’s basically a time bomb ticking under the floorboards of local government finance. Lucas: A very expensive time bomb. And the scariest part is that it’s largely invisible to the national news cycle. No one is reporting on the actuarial reports of the Ohio Teachers’ Retirement Fund or the New York State Common Retirement Fund every morning. Luna: Which is why shows like ours matter. Connecting the dots between Wall Street indices and Main Street municipal budgets. Lucas: Exactly. If walking through the economy with us has made something click, I want to ask for a small favor. Honestly, if today was worth a coffee to you, that's the link — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo — that's F. E. X. I. N. G. O. Luna: Yeah, it really helps keep the research deep and the ads away. Thanks for listening. Lucas: Back to the pension issue. One thing I’d add is that corporate America is watching this closely. If public sector costs rise, corporations might lobby for tax breaks elsewhere, shifting the burden again. Luna: Or they’ll just hire fewer public contractors. It creates a ripple effect through the entire supply chain of public services. Lucas: Right. And we haven’t even touched on the healthcare side. Retiree health benefits are another massive line item that often gets tucked into the same underfunded buckets. It’s a dual burden of pension and healthcare. Luna: Healthcare costs are just as sticky as inflation. Adding that to the mix makes the liability even scarier. Lucas: It does. So, as we head into Q four, keep an eye on municipal bond spreads. If those widen significantly, it’s the market pricing in exactly what we’re talking about: fear of local fiscal stress. Luna: Smart move. Watch the bonds, not just the stocks. Because the stock market might be rallying on tech, but the bonds will tell you if the government is actually paying its bills. Lucas: Precisely. The bond market never lies. It’s just quiet. And in this case, the silence is loud. Luna: One last thought. Do you think the Fed’s monetary policy plays a role here? Higher rates make borrowing for those pension shortfalls more expensive? Lucas: They do. Higher rates increase the cost of servicing any debt the cities have issued to try to plug the gap. It’s a compounding pressure. The Fed is trying to cool inflation, but in doing so, they’re making the deficit financing for pensions harder. Luna: There’s no free lunch. Every lever the Fed pulls has a consequence somewhere down the line. Lucas: That’s the trade-off. We’re living through the adjustment period. The question is whether local governments adapt fast enough or if we see a wave of service reductions in the next eighteen months. Luna: I’m betting on service reductions. Adaptation requires political courage that’s currently in short supply. Lucas: A fair bet. Well, that’s our time for today. Keep your eyes on the municipal markets, and we’ll see you on the next episode.