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Drag Queen Star Enigma and Producer Michael Depiro - Glamour, Lights, Make-Up · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 1: This is the Cats in Footing Podcast, a melting pot
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  Speaker 1: and now here's Jim.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to our episode of Cats
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  Speaker 2: and Pudding. And today I have two great guests with me.
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  Speaker 2: I have Enigma, gorgeous Enigma, and I have his majesty,
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  Speaker 2: mister Mike Deapiro. He has a great, great show, great
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  Speaker 2: drag show. And we're going to talk to these beautiful
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  Speaker 2: people today about their their adventure and about their experience
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  Speaker 2: and their drag shows and about the performance.
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  Speaker 3: And we all know each other for a while, so
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  Speaker 3: this is really nice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you guys came all the way up
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  Speaker 2: here from Pennsylvania today to see me.
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  Speaker 3: She loved me and I love you too.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome, welcome. So tell me, well, let's let's pick
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  Speaker 2: up where we left off. We were just talking.
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  Speaker 4: About Yeah, I mean it's I mean, it's you are
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  Speaker 4: definitely the star. It's a reaction for me.
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  Speaker 5: Well, as we're watching the show, the way that you
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  Speaker 5: interact with people is so funny. You just hit it
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  Speaker 5: and like when you get a remark and you you
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  Speaker 5: have that that ability to be.
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  Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's almost like one of those moments where
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  Speaker 4: like you don't know what to say. So then because
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  Speaker 4: you and you're like, yeah, it's just it's gold, like
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  Speaker 4: it's colony gold. Okay, I don't think you mean to
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  Speaker 4: be funny, which is what makes it even more funny.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, I'm glad you enjoyed the show that you've
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  Speaker 2: been watching my episodes and now you're here is my guest,
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk to you, Michael and talk about your
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  Speaker 2: You are what you call it like a cabaret production production.
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  Speaker 5: So like we have been building a production studio now
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  Speaker 5: in a house for some time, and it started with
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  Speaker 5: the live events side, and we started producing these elevated
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  Speaker 5: drag show experiences. We wanted them to have like a
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  Speaker 5: different field.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not like your grandmother's direg show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well this is actually is your grandmother's dragtion. You
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  Speaker 5: want to bring your grandmother to this draction?
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  Speaker 1: You could actually very very.
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  Speaker 5: Fan This is uh, this is a elevated experience, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and we've created a very unique cast and now we're
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  Speaker 5: expanding on that. You know, we're now three years into
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  Speaker 5: what we've been building, right and now it's time to
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  Speaker 5: build bigger, build something even more unique. And that falls
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  Speaker 5: in the lines of you know, visual entertainment media, web series,
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  Speaker 5: TV series, and that's the that's the era that we're
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  Speaker 5: approaching now in twenty twenty four, and Enigma has been
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  Speaker 5: that standing image of you know, this is what we're creating,
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  Speaker 5: and this is why we're creating it, and that's why
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  Speaker 5: we've you know, been coming on working with you over
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  Speaker 5: the last two years. You know, like you've been on
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  Speaker 5: a few of our videos shoots and stuff like, yes, showing.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of fun. Yeah, we have a good time.
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  Speaker 5: We always have a good time. I mean like walking
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  Speaker 5: into your office and screaming at you in Italian, I
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  Speaker 5: feel right at home.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's always kind of been about taking drag and putting
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  Speaker 4: it into places and spaces that you wouldn't typically expect
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  Speaker 4: it to be.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, partnering with you and.
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  Speaker 4: Being inside the med spa and having the procedures done
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  Speaker 4: and showing how that can help enhance an artist and
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  Speaker 4: someone being in front of the camera. But definitely our
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  Speaker 4: journey as a company. We started doing these small drag
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  Speaker 4: shows and like little rinky DNK bars, and they just
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  Speaker 4: grew because the mission and the goal was always to
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  Speaker 4: elevate it and bring it to that production level. So
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  Speaker 4: we come with that full blown, you know, we bring
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  Speaker 4: the glitz and the glamor and the lights and the
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  Speaker 4: stage and all of that to bring you in. But
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  Speaker 4: the whole purpose is what we foster, and it's that
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  Speaker 4: environment of just coming into a safe place in space
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  Speaker 4: and sharing in that joy that we love, which is drag.
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  Speaker 3: And how is your production?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: How?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, how long? So if a typical.
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  Speaker 2: Production for you guys, like your show you did yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: how it's not like a half an hour?
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  Speaker 3: It's like, well, it's like a couple of hours.
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  Speaker 5: The show yesterday was probably about two and a half hours.
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  Speaker 3: And what does that entail?
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  Speaker 5: So people arrive, they order their drinks, order their food
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  Speaker 5: from the whatever venue we might be playing at, and
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  Speaker 5: then it also kicks off with the Queen's interact and
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  Speaker 5: engaging with the audience, and then we kick off the show.
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  Speaker 5: We're very theatrical with how we go about our production
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  Speaker 5: and how we produce our shows, so Enigma always kicks
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  Speaker 5: off the show as she is the main host for
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  Speaker 5: most of them.
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  Speaker 4: I do host probably ninety nine percent of our shows,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it's important to cultivate an experience from
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  Speaker 4: beginning to end. So when you see our marketing and
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  Speaker 4: you click on the website to buy a ticket, you
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  Speaker 4: get to see the.
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  Speaker 1: Queen's come up.
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  Speaker 4: You see all the fun colors and all of that
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  Speaker 4: all the way until you finally meet me standing inside
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  Speaker 4: the restaurant. And it's just about getting to know where
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  Speaker 4: you're from. I always like to ask the audience who's traveling?
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  Speaker 4: Is anyone from out of town? Just like understanding where
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  Speaker 4: you're coming from and what what made you choose to
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  Speaker 4: come here to spend time with me today, because that's
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  Speaker 4: really important.
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  Speaker 2: Yet know what the people's why they're coming, what they're
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  Speaker 2: what that what kind of experience they're looking for?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And like even in like some of the
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  Speaker 5: areas that we've performed and you get people from out
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  Speaker 5: of the country, we're seeing these types of shows for
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  Speaker 5: the first time, you know, like and it's eye opening
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  Speaker 5: to them. It's a whole new world, right, you know,
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  Speaker 5: And we're really trying to foster a a safe splace,
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  Speaker 5: a safe space for queer artists and entrepreneurs and individuals
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  Speaker 5: to grow and prosper, you know, Like it doesn't just
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  Speaker 5: stop at the you know, drag show productions, it's film production,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's TV production. It's know, potentially taking young producers
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  Speaker 5: thoughts and ideas and turning them into shows and finding
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  Speaker 5: them investors, finding them ways to actually work in this industry,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And we've we've been creating that environment now
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  Speaker 5: and it's time to expand it and grow it. So
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  Speaker 5: coming on shows like this is a great way to
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  Speaker 5: talk about it and you know, get people informed on
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  Speaker 5: what we have been fostering.
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  Speaker 2: So what so now So okay, so you're doing the show,
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  Speaker 2: So now what do you so now you're saying the
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  Speaker 2: next step is to now go into so what do
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  Speaker 2: you said?
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  Speaker 3: You're building something? So what are you building?
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  Speaker 5: So in Central PA, we are working to build a
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  Speaker 5: newly developed sound stage where film and TV can be shot.
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  Speaker 5: We're really trying to bring more multimillion dollar productions to
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  Speaker 5: the area, as well as expanding on the live entertainment
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  Speaker 5: aspect of the production company and really just strike something new,
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  Speaker 5: you know, strike new engagement in Pennsylvania, you know where
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  Speaker 5: we're from, right, you know, and create something that's going
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  Speaker 5: to be lasting and also economically beneficial, you know, And
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  Speaker 5: we want to work with everyone from everywhere you know,
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  Speaker 5: so coming up to New York benefits working there, you know,
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  Speaker 5: going out to la going to London all pulls in
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  Speaker 5: and benefits what our bigger vision is.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you feel so for the in this
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  Speaker 2: So who was sponsoring this sound stage?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, is it already built?
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  Speaker 5: It's it's in the it's in the process of being built.
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  Speaker 5: We're in the works with talking with investors and getting
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  Speaker 5: those things in place. It's probably going to be another
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  Speaker 5: year until the actual physical sound stages. We're starting with
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  Speaker 5: smaller studios and then expanding from there.
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  Speaker 2: So where, so where are you performing now? So on
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  Speaker 2: the sound stage?
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  Speaker 5: So right now, we're performing in tons of different venues.
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  Speaker 1: You want to talk about that. We perform all over Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 4: We've got in I mean, we've been down in Florida,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're hearing or we get out to New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: I've been Ohio, North Carolina, South Carolina. You know, we
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  Speaker 4: go as individual artists, we've gone to different places, and
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  Speaker 4: then as a production company, we've traveled as a group
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  Speaker 4: and we've toured. We've worked with some major chains, some
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  Speaker 4: of them that we will not mention, but you know we.
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  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, but definitely Pennsylvania because I was born and
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  Speaker 5: raised there in Lancaster.
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  Speaker 4: That is where I have cultivated my biggest fan base.
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  Speaker 4: And we kind of started there and then expanded out
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  Speaker 4: so those surrounding areas like Harrisburg, Hershey, Philly, which I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure you've heard.
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  Speaker 3: Of, yesore pH Philly.
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  Speaker 4: Philly, Pittsburgh. We go down there to Pultra to do
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  Speaker 4: shows at Helen's store. You know, culture there, which is fun.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, culture.
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  Speaker 3: We love poultry.
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  Speaker 1: Culture. I think I'm wearing a little bit of culture
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  Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere under all.
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  Speaker 2: Really good whatever it's from. This whole strap is her right? Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the strap, the under, the under unders. She can't get
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  Speaker 2: undressed on I can't get.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can. We I mean we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want kind of vodka we were.
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  Speaker 3: We say whatever we want if you want to get naked,
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  Speaker 3: as long.
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  Speaker 4: As it's easier to talk when you're naked, because then
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  Speaker 4: you just get rid of all like the nerves. Like
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  Speaker 4: right now I'm sitting here, I'm trying, you know, my
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  Speaker 4: nails are on. I'm like if I just had nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Right they fin It's like you know, well, they tell
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  Speaker 2: you when you public speak, is the picture of the
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  Speaker 2: picture of the audience naked, and you'll feel so much better.
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  Speaker 3: You won't feel that you won't feel that that tension
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  Speaker 3: when you're speaking to somebody.
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  Speaker 5: When you're the producer and the director, you're always you're
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  Speaker 5: you're just always sitting backstage and you're watching everyone's move move,
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  Speaker 5: how their faces reacting. Last night, I actually just sat
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  Speaker 5: there and just listened to how they responded because I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to know, like, what are people what do people
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  Speaker 5: first think? And as soon as the queens walk out
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  Speaker 5: of that gate.
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  Speaker 1: That's so.
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  Speaker 2: Why is your production be different from other from I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I mean I've been to dreg shows obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but what is it? What's the difference, Like, is it
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  Speaker 2: more like is it more like the like like you said.
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  Speaker 5: The act catered? It's a catered show, you know. Like
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  Speaker 5: we work with a more consistent cast, which we are
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  Speaker 5: expanding on. We want to bring more outside queens to
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  Speaker 5: work with us.
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  Speaker 3: How many are working with you right now?
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  Speaker 1: Right now? We have five?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have five contracted core divas and then we
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  Speaker 4: have like a supporting cast which rotates out special guest
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  Speaker 4: spots in our shows.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so they so they'll come in when you have
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  Speaker 2: a spot open for them, like if you needed them
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  Speaker 2: to perform in the specific yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: Or even like sometimes our crowds are just so big
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  Speaker 4: that we know they're going to expect like a certain
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  Speaker 4: level of performance and we're like, okay, we only have
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  Speaker 4: five on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: We need six or seven.
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  Speaker 3: This time, you know, And it's the biggest crowd you.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have a Well, we have one in February
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  Speaker 5: coming up that's going to be about fifteen hundred people.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: We did one in Pittsburgh that was around three fifty.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably close. It's probably one of our biggest ones.
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  Speaker 5: We are continuing to grow and expand our network and
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  Speaker 5: how we're doing these performances. And you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: it's a it's a curated show that we are expanding
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  Speaker 5: on and figuring out how do we make it, how
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  Speaker 5: do we make it different? You know, how do we
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  Speaker 5: make it better? How do we drive new forces in
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  Speaker 5: Like we have a great cast right now of Enigma, Majesty, Hexa, Ashley, Manhattan, Memphis, Divine,
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  Speaker 5: all amazing queens, and we want to start expanding and
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  Speaker 5: working with other queens from New York and you know,
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  Speaker 5: wherever we can have the.
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  Speaker 2: Show and you have everybody working together. You have the
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  Speaker 2: five five queens working together. So are they doing the
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  Speaker 2: same choreography? Are they dressed similarly? Are they also?
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  Speaker 4: Our shows have themes, so for example, was like Frostbite,
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  Speaker 4: so everyone tried to be within that theme. So whether
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  Speaker 4: it's like wearing things that are icy, things that are
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  Speaker 4: shades of blue, things that are shades of silver, sparkly.
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  Speaker 2: So you're keeping in the same color scheme. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: doing everybody's doing their whome different.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big popular when we have a flashback, flashback, flashback,
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  Speaker 4: So we'll do a show that's like eighties, eighties, which
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  Speaker 4: is always gonna you know, sell out, and everyone loves
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  Speaker 4: the eighties.
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  Speaker 3: Well you don't like, I'm an eighties, I'm an ad
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  Speaker 3: That's that's generation X. That's really exactly. We love the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the best music.
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  Speaker 4: You know, everyone's gonna love an eighties show. I like
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  Speaker 4: to go to other people's shows just to see what
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  Speaker 4: it is that they're doing that works, but also what
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  Speaker 4: are they not doing? And I'm like, okay, see I
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  Speaker 4: see a gap in terms of the entertainment. I'm like
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  Speaker 4: your audience needs to be engaged right at that moment
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  Speaker 4: of the show. So how can I add something in
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  Speaker 4: my show that you're not doing, Because if you have
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  Speaker 4: a gap, there must be one in mind?
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  Speaker 3: What gaps have you found in other people shows that
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  Speaker 3: you think all the time that you see?
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  Speaker 4: The thing I see the most is engagement, like talking
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  Speaker 4: to people, seeing the whites of their eyes and just
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  Speaker 4: getting to build up that rapport with them. People want
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  Speaker 4: to come back to your Like you said, you can
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  Speaker 4: find a drag queen anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in New York City. I can throw a nail.
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  Speaker 4: And probably hate queen in the hallway, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. So it's like, you have to give people
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  Speaker 4: a reason to come back. And I truly believe the
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  Speaker 4: one blessing that God has given us all, the one
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  Speaker 4: gift that is so unique is our personalities, our place,
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  Speaker 4: the power that we have to connect with people. So
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  Speaker 4: I just we do a lot of games, We do
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  Speaker 4: a lot of just interactive, having interactive moments with the
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  Speaker 4: audience to make sure that we know them and that
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  Speaker 4: they know a little bit about us, so they learn
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about queer community, a little bit about
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  Speaker 4: drag queen, specifically a little bit about each artists and entertainer.
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  Speaker 4: So that way the next time they see a flyer
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  Speaker 4: come up and maybe they see two on the same
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  Speaker 4: date at the same time, they're going to say, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to go to Enigma show because she talks to me.
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  Speaker 2: Do you post yourselves before and after? And that's something
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  Speaker 2: that would be different.
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  Speaker 4: We do a lot of social media things like that,
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  Speaker 4: like transformation. Often when I come up to you, I'll
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  Speaker 4: do the transformations.
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  Speaker 2: Because I like what you were in my chair without
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  Speaker 2: your dreg celf when you were.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was that was a challenge. I think
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  Speaker 4: I showed up out of drag.
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  Speaker 2: She showed up out of drag and then had to
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  Speaker 2: get into drag and I did, and you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, surgical rhino plastic yes, and your lips and lips
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  Speaker 4: and then I went into your bathroom full drink and
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  Speaker 4: got into.
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  Speaker 1: That was fun.
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  Speaker 3: But that was that was a good shot. It was
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  Speaker 3: a good shoot.
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  Speaker 2: Because it showed and it showed your transformation in the
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  Speaker 2: aesthetic world, and then it showed your transformation in the
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  Speaker 2: drag world.
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  Speaker 1: Precisely, which is cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's kind of cool like speaking to like
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  Speaker 4: the aesthetics It's wild how much power your product brings,
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  Speaker 4: like your brand and your company, Like to someone like
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  Speaker 4: me who is an artist that suffered with a lot
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  Speaker 4: of insecurities and the way you just like cured them
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  Speaker 4: with very simple like holistic means is so impressive, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like my nose, you know, I know, girls, She's like, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know if I would categorism as holistic. I guess
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  Speaker 2: you can, because it does heal. It does heal your
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  Speaker 2: persona like when when I used to think my my, my, my.
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  Speaker 3: Work was so was so frivolous.
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  Speaker 2: And when people come back and patients come back to me,
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  Speaker 2: women have gone through breast cancer of women who are
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  Speaker 2: you know, oh sick men, people from from your community,
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  Speaker 2: and they say, You've made me feel so much better
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  Speaker 2: and were confident in myself. And that makes me feel
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  Speaker 2: so happy that I actually made a difference in somebody's Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have, you know, I have a few, quite a
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  Speaker 2: few transition and patients.
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  Speaker 5: And the beauty of it, that's the beauty of it,
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  Speaker 5: because like every time that we come up to do
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  Speaker 5: a shoot with you, you know, you're you're you know,
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  Speaker 5: correcting things and doing things you do your pinch and
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  Speaker 5: your poke here and there. You're an artist, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like you are? You really are an artist, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like you I thank you, Yes, that is very accurate.
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  Speaker 1: You have such a we are.
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  Speaker 3: Yet my biggest fans. I love it. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate the talking to you do for us, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we appreciate it just our community in general, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, you know, I have a love for your community.
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  Speaker 2: Every year and every year it gets better and better.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And you know, I just I have a you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: it's it's hearts, you know, a piece of.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: My heart, that's for sure.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: So, now do you see yourself maybe doing some kind
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: of reality show or anything like that.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Has anybody approached you as.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Far as that or personally? I would love to be
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: on reality TV. Everybody knows about RuPaul's Drag Race and
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: it is an amazing show and I love the platform
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: that it has built and and the exposure that it
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: has brought. I'm what you call super fan. So I
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: watched RuPaul's Drag Race Drag Race All Stars Thailand, Holland, Germany, France, UK,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: which is really good. Like I watch all the franchise
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: spinoffs because I love the show so much. I personally
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: don't know if I'm going to ever do that show
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: because I don't necessarily like to compete all the time.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: But I love watching it. I'm like, yes, and it
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: inspires every competition.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I just want to do the have the work
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: and the arnustry.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: But I do see a place for me in reality TV.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: I'm exploring that. I've had a couple conversations with people
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: in the last few months trying to see where I
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: could fit in because the drag for me, I express
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: my art in that way, but I want that to
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: not be the focus of why you are interacting with
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: me or collaborating with me because I'm a drag queen.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: That should be like, you know, the last thing, it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: because she's a comedian, or she's an artist, or she's
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: a model, or she's this or that, you know what
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So I do see myself on reality TV.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I pretty much am behind the scenes, So
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: I'm probably most likely going to be creating the reality TV.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I love the production and direction of it, and I've
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: worked on, you know, several different projects, and you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: we have several different products within our own production house
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: that we are working towards right now.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: You've produced a couple of movies. Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've produced a couple of morees and currently producing
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: a comic book series and video game series called Zara
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: and the Thieves of Light. It just released. It is
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: a very cool Uh, it is a very cool project.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I'll show you this is the cover and so I
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: wish I was artistically.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: How do they do it on like like TikTok where
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: they like hold it in front of I don't know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the internet. Yeah, very cool.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: So this is a this is something that our production
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: house rather is putting together and producing. This is just
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: one of those many projects that we're working on. And
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: the characters are a cast of queer characters as well,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: so like there is a paper level and understanding to
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the entire series. It is available now. People can go
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: out and purchase it from our production house. Zarah theso
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Light dot com.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna plug that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Then.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: That's a great example of another one of the ways
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: where we're just trying to support our queer community and
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: uplift people in areas where you may not first think
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: like a queer artist, a queer movie maker, a queer
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: comic book designer. You know, like those are things that
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't necessarily expect queer people to need help with,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: like getting up on that platform and getting that kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: of exposure. But with having that the comic book, I
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: think it's so cool.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a comic book merge? Im?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I like, like, I'm not a Marvel not I'm not
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: saying like that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, so you don't watch The Avengers.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I like, I like Wonder Woman. I'll watch watch Yeah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: but I'm not I'm not a big no. I just
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I don't love those big blocks.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I don't like the big blockbuster movies like that because
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: they feel like they're too commercial.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, I get that to me.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm more. I am like more of the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: art part of it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I feel like that they're so commercial
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that that's probably why I don't really want.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: I have to tell you even though I did love
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Star Wars. I mean, everybody loves Star Wars. Was amazho
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: doesn't love Star Wars. I love Star Wars. I stand
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: outside of movie theaters. I'm that person who will stand.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: In line and watch and to watch The Avengers, to
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: watch they watch.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: No shame, I'll do it again in five Dynasty, like
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I will be there. I love superheroes. That's a big
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: part of my childhood but also my drag. When people
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: like to describe me, they're like, you kind of look
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: like a superhero. You do have like the Wonder Woman body,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: And I think that's literally how I tried to project yourself.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: And Wonder Woman has those sides. She has her when
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: she's in battle and her armor, and then she has
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: when she's like sitting at the UN summit, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: talking about climate change, which is very important, you know
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So, like superheroes are really big for me.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: It surprises me that you're not into them. You look
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: like wonder you know.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I like, like I said, I love wonder Woman. I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: used to love Linda Carter watch Watch when I was
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a kid, Like I.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Was like that was loved.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: She was the best wonder Woman.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch Xena the Warrior Princess.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I watched the Princess.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's amazing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I like her. But I'm not, like I said, I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: not a big Avenger.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love Batman, like but original Batman, not
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: all not the doc d C.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Batman.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I like Michael Batman like. I like
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that Batman like I don't like I like the corny
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: one that's funny.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I like the King Batman. I kind of like George Clooney.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't I did like what's his name is? It's yes,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't like the DC ones.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I like the I like the more the more like yeah, yes,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I mean. I love Christian Bale.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I love Christian male hot. He's very high.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: American Psychle was one of my favorite movies.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: That's another good thing about going to see these super hierocines.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, who doesn't want to watch Chris Hemsworth on screen?
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: But I do like Spider Man, Okay, I like the
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: scrawny one. I like and low meat on my I
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: like the last.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: One when they had all the last three.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: That was cool.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: That was so where they had Toby Maguire then they
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: had the other one.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I was you're literally trying to pretend you're not a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: nerd for the camera.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: But I've never seen all of these movies that I
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: don't watch watch.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I can't love Avengers.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: They love them, but you won't watch the team ups.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You'll just watch.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: The whole of Justice bullshit, it's me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's a lot.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I just it's it's just a lot going on, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I like to separate. Listen, I love, I love.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: What's his name, Superman? You didn't want too passed away?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Which is Christopher Rees.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he was amazing, He was amazing, was the best.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Oh he was, he was And Lois Lane. I loved
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: talking she was the best. She was a great Lowis Lane.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: So you love that, you love the classics.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's the only one that was that was really
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: he was the only one had the different identity. Did
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you know that, like a Superman was one of the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: only superheroes who was born a superhero.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: He wasn't made a superhero. Think about that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: He was born from Krypton and he was a superhero,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: right he was born, and then.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: His his alternate ego was his his was.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Claw Kent everybody else right, it was Peter Parker was
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: with Spider Man, but his ulterinate ego was Spider Man,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: so it was reversed.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool, And.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: It's funny because I thought, it's like, I've never either,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: but I was like trying to follow unconsciously. I've known that,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: but I've never like really like talked about it out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's never been like put to pieces. The
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: pieces have never put together.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Even Wonder Woman wasn't born one the Woman. She was
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: always an Amazon Woman and always but she.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Was even technically born. She was forged to play.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Exactly and then she and then she came and she
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: became one of the Woman. Wonder One was just Alter
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the Eagle because she was always not she wasn't born.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: But Superman was one borught a superhero.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: She was always Diana Prince. Her mission was to be
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: an embassy envoy to the world.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Not a superhero.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I know that. I know the back.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Inviting you to the next guy. I love Dragons.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I love it because it started out, you know, like
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: she wasn't really into it, but then we pulled it
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: out of her and there it was.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Like everybody loves the Avengers, well maybe not the Avengers
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: because they love some of those movies.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Spider Man, Yes, I like the Separate yeah, separate one.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: So as far as your next show, it is like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: how how many do you do you have? Any So
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you said you had one that's for fifteen hundred people.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That's now, what are you guys doing for the summer,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: are you going to think about touring and trying to get.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Some other Yes, and summertime is Pride time. So we
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: do a lot of shows in the month of June
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: and July revolving around Pride. Next year we plan to
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: do it like double overhaul, focusing a little bit more
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: on a Pride tour that would last June and July
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: and expanding from there. So yeah, we we definitely have
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: plans on, you know, building out a whole new show
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: for for next year. In terms of summer shows.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I love it. It's it's a Pride with
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you next year, ye.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: About to come because this year is going to be
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: every year it's been bigger.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we need to talk about it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, here, here's what happened.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't come to Pride this year, now I know.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: No, No, it wasn't a show, gonna tell the trip
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it was this year.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: It was I started a nine to five and the
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: man wouldn't let me out, he wouldn't give me off.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: And then you know what happened when they found out
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: who you were and.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Who the kind of people that were at the party,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they were like, well, why didn't you just go. I'm like,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: because you said I would lose my job, so I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: was not.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I missed it, but it wasn't my own choice. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: will be here next I will be here. So you
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: have you have to dar an Orthopedics.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad you guys came on the show
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: today and I appreciate you guys coming in to see me.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: And I love you always drive up to see me.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh, you always make the journey.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I know you always make the journey.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: We make the drive, we make the climb the girl.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to. I'm gonna have to start swimming.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have to watch well, maybe I'll watch Avengers
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: with your next time.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to get you a ticket. I'm going
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to bring you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Right so the next moment that comes down, we are
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we gonna go. Want see if you could.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Get dressed up and everything. I'll totally dressed up.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: When I used to go to Disney World, I used
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to dress up as Jasmine all the time.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, totally.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I have all my kids dressed up as a princess,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and I would I was dressed up as because Yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: so I have no problem dressed up.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I do wonder Woman.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: You would do wonder Woman, Yeah, I would like to
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: do one fighting but okay, you do, but you could.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Do I could do Linda Evans wonder Woman. You could
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: do like what's her name? Yeah, so we could do
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a different version.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Look like her?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I don't, but I don't thank you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like I look like her and she's
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: so beautiful.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have a bunch of meetings mom.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: For I sit there at night with my but I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: What to say or I want to say something.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm want to offend that that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I would say something offend, defend them by.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think I can be offended. You've got to
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: try to offend. It's like effort. You have to really
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: have to grow insult her.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at insulting. But I have no reason
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to insult you, and I don't think you would have
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: to give me a reason to.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to give you one. I don't want to,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: least not today, not tomorrow. I do not want to.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I've heard you yell yes. I don't want any of that. Jeff, Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. Well, I am so
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: happy that you both came in to see me and
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I love you both.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Do you have anything else you want to tell people?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Do you have anything else coming up? Give them your
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: website so you can see so.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Our website is at Pirosdivas dot com. You can find
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: all of our coming shows, events and things there. Our
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Instagram is the Puro Underscore Divas and it's d E p.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: I r O.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: That's how you spelled Puro.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: And you can find me on Instagram at the Queen Enigma.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: That's t h e Queen Enigma. Learn how to spell Yeah.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Everybody, have a great day, and please watch my whole video,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: not just the shorts.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: On YouTube, Apple and Spotify. You betta watch me. Have
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: a great day.