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Jourdan Kennis from Mamba Boxing Club · Day Drinking With Dog

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Welcome back to Drinking with Dog. It's been almost two weeks since my
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last podcast, and this guy came out of nowhere into my dms on Instagram.
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What's up, Jordan Kennis from Mamba Boxing Club right here in no for
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Connecticut. How you doing, man? Good, I'm great, Thanks for
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coming by the show. We have a mutual friend, Hawkins French. He's
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amazing. Yea, he is. He is something else. He's a great
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guy. So he's a member of your club, right he is. Yeah,
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he just joined not too long ago. Yeah, he's he's been last
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couple of years now, I'd say last year. He's been really dedicated to
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his body and he looks great. He does look great. Settled down,
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Hawkins, I know you're listening. Hard worker for sure, so I'm not
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gonna lie. I had no idea this place existed. Yeah, you reached
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out. Most people don't. Okay, so it's Mama Boxing Club yet.
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Behind the story of Mamba in a little bit. But let's do a quick
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I know there's a boxing club right up the street here that's more of a
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gym atmosphere you are actually boxing. Yeah, I mean there's a number of
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you know, franchise boxing gyms whatever they are. I call them bag warehouses
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because you're not really learning anything and that's just a whole mess. And then
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there's places that are just like decrepit and falling apart, and yeah, we
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could get into that later. But what we offer is the Midwestern style of
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boxing that was taught by Roger Mayweather to me because he coached me and the
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amateurs. And over in the Northeast, all you have is you know,
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peekaboo, which really just falls into the line of just fight with your hands
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up and running and be aggressive. And there's not much technical things being taught
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with the boxing scene down in the Northeast, not just Connecticut. Right.
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Well, that bring us to the Mama. So there was a gentleman you
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were out in Vegas, yes, And were you always into boxing as a
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kid, Uh? Yeah, but I've got more competitive with it around seventeen
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years old. Okay, so you're out in Vegas and you just happen to
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step in this gym. No, it wasn't like that. I started as
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an amateur in Connecticut and things were going well, you know, competing wise,
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but I wasn't able with the gym I came from, hence what I
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was saying before, to box the way I felt I could box. And
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I'm very close with the CEO of Grant Boxing, which is why they sponsor
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our club, and they're the we're the only club in the world that they
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sponsor, even though they're you know, the top top brand in the business.
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That Floyd Mayweather used right, and he got me a tour around a
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bunch of Vegas gyms to find a new home and reside out there for a
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time being. And I went to the Mayweather Boxing Club out of many Jim's,
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Richard Steele's, Johnny Taco's, the Hit Factory, which was zab Juda's
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dad's Jim which closed down, but there are a lot of places. Fifty
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cent had a gym down their top rank, which is HBO owned, and
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I just hit it off with Roger. Not right away. It took three
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months of getting beat down five days a week and returning while you'd watch other
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people quit, and just believing that there's more to be learned there and there
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was, and then we became really really close. And Roger was a you
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know, huge mentor, almost like an older brother more than like a dad
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to me. But he trained a lot of people. That's awesome. So
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there's no relation, right, Yes, there is. Floyd was trained by
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his uncle, so Roger took over because Floyd's dad was locked up for the
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wonder years of his career. From the I think it's a second fight on,
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Jeff was always in the background who continues to mentor me, and that's
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Roger's youngest brother. But Roger died two years ago, so right around the
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time that we opened the gym was around the time that he passed away,
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and I dedicated the club to him. Hence why it's named Mamba Boxing Club
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because he was a black mamba and Jeff helped, you know, he came
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down, did a seminar for the first twenty five members. We cap our
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memberships at seventy five. Were capped right now. Actually, even though no
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one knows about us, but we we capped when we had a grand opening
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last weekend. So we had our first grand opening after being open for two
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years. That's able to have. I mean, yeah, it's a good
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problem to have, but you still want people to know, and you still
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want people to want to be there, you know, and want to come
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in and want to learn about it. So how do you go about Is
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it almost to the point where you need a second gym? Yeah? So,
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I mean I think my goal is not massive, but but it's to
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spread awareness and direction within the northeast of the country where I think that boxing
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isn't really being taught properly, and there are not a lot of establishments like
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this. I mean there's none. I grew up in Long Island in a
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place called Seacliff that I missed very much. I love Milford. I went
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to high school in Fairfield. But there's a lot of similarities between Connecticut and
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Long Island, and that's one of them. So I do think that one
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day, maybe perhaps I don't want to go too into detail, there will
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be another establishment, but you know it will never be franchised and it will
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never be without the heart in it and the message and the legacy being spread
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out. Yeah, and the local field right of the community, right exactly.
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But we do want to teach the Midwestern style in the Northeast. So
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do you feel and we'll touch on this a little bit later, like the
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nim you know I've seen I grew up in boxing. There was no MMA
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back then. You know, I grew up with you know, Tyson and
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Foreman, and you know there was Don Fryar in the Gray Sees. Well,
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yes, yeah, they weren't mainstream, no, not at all,
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not at all, so it never crossed. You know, especially television was
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you know when I grew up, you know, eight stations at most.
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You know, Cable was just coming along. HBO was just coming along,
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and obviously they were probably one of the biggest boxing They're the front runners.
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Yes, they were the ones. You know, you had Lampley and all
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the I mean it was Saturday night boxing, and yeah, I was always
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glued to it. I was. Tyson had me, you know at hello,
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I mean when I first saw him, and it took me a while.
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So a lot of my friends are MMA guys, like watch it took
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me a while. Like I don't know if it's because I bartend and I'm
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always working Saturday night so I never see pay per views. But like I've
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been to MMA events and I've been to boxing events. I feel there,
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like when you're there, boxing is much better. I think you can see
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stuff better. Uh visually, you know, you don't have this octagon and
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there's not a fence in front of you. You know, it's just ropes.
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You know. Obviously depends where you say. But you know, I've
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been really close to M M a fight and I just didn't feel of what
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I felt. You know. I went to Gotti uh Ward three and one
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of the most craziest things I've ever seen. Yeah, you know those both
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guys fight their hearts and then he got his ass whooped by Floyd. Yeah
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yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, yeah, he
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stepped the class up. Yeah. So my question is, I'm not saying
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boxing is dying or dead or any of that. Do you actually but do
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you feel it? You know, it's a roller coaster. It was really
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down for a while, especially in the heavyweight division. Uh in the two
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thousands it was really down, no names. Uh do you feel it's you
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know, coming back up now? I think like back piggybacking off what you
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said, and Elvis from Grant the CEO, would say, it's a roller
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coaster. Boxing just is that way. I saw the Tyson Bye Evander Holyfield's
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here on TV when I was a kid and my dad was watching it.
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My dad's a major Cassius Clay fan, so he liked Ali before he changed
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to Muhammad Ali. But you know, it's like what Russ Amber, another
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trainer I follow, who's an amazing coach out of Montreal, said about and
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then the difference between MMA and boxing is, you know, I train in
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martial arts now just for my mind and for my flexibility. From an eight
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time world champion from Korea, but it's totally different, and I think a
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lot of guys, you know, MMA attracts a certain type of person that
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is more of a jack of all trades. There's so many variables and it's
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hard to even call it a sport because no one is a master of anything.
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So they just, you know, whatever they could take you down with.
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They all know a little bit and they say yeah, and a little
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bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. So I think what's great about boxing
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is they're all doing the same thing. There's only two variables and that's your
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left and your right. So when you're a master at that, it becomes
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more of a sweet science, which is what they call it, and you
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know, it's a lot more fun to watch and break down where you know,
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MMA is just like all over the place and then all of a sudden
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it gets brutal. For me, not a fan, but I definitely get
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the draw. I think that boxing is coming back because people see that,
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you know, and they're kind of like, uh, this is kind of
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hit or miss where boxing is more you could look at different skill levels and
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really come up with a determination of who's the better fighter, right, you
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know, yeah, it's you know, I feel like MMA, like you
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could be a heavy favorite, but you know, guy slips it one needed
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the job and it's over. Yeah. And there's that in boxing too.
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You can yeah you can get hit by a left hook and puncher's chance.
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Yeah, bolo punch. But he was more relevant or more prominent in that
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sport. Yeah, you're just flying in all directions and you know, choking
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people out or whatever. You know. I had Nick Nowell on the show
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over a year ago. Good friend like him. I love Roger that he
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just won. Uh he has a yes, yes, yes, he just
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won a couple of matches. He submitted three guys the other day and amazing
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when one arm, man, I mean, he's he's incredible. He he
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also knows a good friend out of Vegas. I when I go down there
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now, not only do I still train with Jeff a little bit, even
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though it's different than Roger and everything, because it's part of mentoring, but
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I do muy Thai with uh Dewey Cooper who's now training Francis Sniguano who's fighting
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Tyson Fury. But Dewey Cooper's coach was Jeff Mayweather for boxing. And another
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guy that I trained with out of a gym down there that does Muay Thai,
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very very prominent coach in MMA named Nick one Kick and Nick one Kick
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and uh Nick Nowell are good friends. But I also know the second coach
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that trains at FAA, Roger Denton, and he's a nutcase, great guy
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and we get along really really well. But all those guys they're serious.
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You know, those guys are masters at their craft. But there are a
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lot of m m A fighters that just are luck of the draw kind of
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deal. I I had my girlfriend son Brandon, he went to some of
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the classes. Okay, Roger would teach a lot of them. I would
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just come back at the end, I'd like you like Roger, but yeah,
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yeah, man, And he has a lot of injuries too. Yeah,
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all right. So, by the way, where are you located in
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Milford for zero five Boston Post Road across from the p D. Oh,
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yeah, you're in that area. Yep. Oh nice. Nice. You
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know it's funny you drive down like Root one or Boston Post Road, you
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really look into plazas. Not only that, but we're set back. We're
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like set like our driveway is just like in the road, and then you
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have to really look in to find us a plaza. We are in a
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plaza. What else is there? A barber shop, an insurance company,
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and a wedding dress maker? Yeah? Then you guys, and then yeah,
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fits right in. How did Mayweather get his black mom? Was he
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he was the black mom but before Kobe Bryant? Yeah, yeah, he
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was called himself the original I still have this cough. I'm sorry. It's
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that's the way it is. The changing seasons right now. God, it's
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fucking nuts. All right. So you're on the Post Road. So are
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you not currently accepting members? We're taking a weight liss straight now. We
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did that. That was a grand opening that we did two weeks ago,
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even though it's been two years. Was an open house that's why we did
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it. We capped at that. You know, every now and then someone
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will drop, whether it's you know, even though they're not trying hard,
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it's they say it's because it's not for them, but it could be for
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anybody. And other times people move or something. So we have a wait
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list and then we call those people up once they contact us and invite them
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in. It's a you know, it's a private facility. Everything's blacked out,
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just like it is in Vegas or California. You can't just walk in.
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Keep out weird people because it's a combat gym, but also to keep
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out, you know, taking attention from people that are trying to learn and
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stuff like that. Sometimes I wish we could black out Stormbridge. No one
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could see it. Wouldn't that be great? Man? I wonder what would
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happen inside though there. I love this time in Milford, but there are
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some wacky, fucking people down. I was literally in line of CVS yesterday
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to get a prescription. I'm like, I will talk to anybody, but
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now you get in the mode, You're just like, I don't want to
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talk to anybody, right, I'm in CVS. I just want my script.
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I gotta go to work. I don't want to talk to anybody.
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And I had this wacky dude in front of me, and he turns around.
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He's like, you got an iPhone? And I'm like, fuck,
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here we go. I look behind me to see if anyone's behind me.
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Nope. I'm like, oh, you're talking to me. Yeah, you
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got an iPhone. I'm like yeah. He goes, Oh, all right,
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when you get free time Google twenty and thirteen bud Light commercial, you're
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just gonna laugh your ass off. And I'm like, where the fuck is
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this coming here? Yeah? What do you have bud Light back or something?
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No? No, no, no, if you listen to the show,
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you know no, right right, and uh, I'm just like okay.
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He goes, and then he got into the whole commercial about that.
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It was some Clysdale commercial from the super Bowl or whatever, and he just
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now he's just fuck. I'm like in my head, I'm like, I
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just opened Pantherora's box with his dude. And of course, the lady that's
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in front of us at the teller is getting like seventeen thousand prescriptions. So
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he just starts talking random gibberish. You know, I'm looking at my phone.
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I'm looking at my watch, I'm looking at fucking vagina cream on the
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thing. I'm just trying to direct my attention. So he gets it.
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I don't want to be rude, right of course. Well here we go.
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He just keeps going, and finally the lady leaves. She goes next
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the guy who walks up to the front and goes, I don't know,
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I might have a prescription. What's your last name? No you don't,
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okay, thanks by, So you mustn't even alive for anything. Just to
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talk to me. Sorry, good thing. I keep those. That's why
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I want. I want. I want to be out of like a whole,
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like wherever I go. Sometimes, well what's what's actually funny is I'm
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forced to talk. It works sometimes we keep it open, like for members
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if it's raining out whatever, and for the kids because they don't have access
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directly to the club when we're not there, right, the members do,
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so I keep it open the other day. And just from being around like
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Vegas, boxing and stuff like, you get used to this aura that people
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have when they come in. So him in there and this he seemed like
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he was Russian, But I guess they're polish. This guy comes in,
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you could tell his business, you know what I'm saying. Usually my instinct
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does I kick you right out? Like did he read the sign on the
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door? Email me? Yeah, you know, but they're just sitting on
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the mat. Big six three six' four guy. I can't even say
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his name, like Andres Warrenick, but he's a thirty three and zero world
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champion through the WBC and he was just visiting Connecticut because his friend lives down
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here, so he just came by and I guess he heard about us,
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which is kind of cool, and he just wanted to see the club,
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and he took all these pictures on his Instagram and he was a really really
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cool guy. I let them look aroun and stuff and yeah, I guess
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we're making noise, but that was cool. So I mean every now and
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then, right, yeah, but most of the time. I mean,
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we had a guy come in once when the door was unlocked, and he
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got on his hands and knees and started praising the ground and he goes,
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thank you for being here, thank you for being here. And I walk
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up to him and I'm like, no, no, man, what are
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you doing? And he goes, I'm autistic. I'm autistic, and I'm
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like, okay, I'm really sorry to hear that, Like you gotta go,
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but you just get weird people. And when we first open, you
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got a bunch of kids that were like trying to look for a fight or
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pick a fight. One had to be removed by the PD in the parking
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lot, like kicking and screaming. It was pretty nuts. But I've seen
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things in Vegas gyms that make that look like nothing, like nothing. Yeah,
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and I have a few stories, but yeah, that's you know,
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that's why we keep the locked you. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
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What's what's your how many female client? Tell you guy, I'd say
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somewhere around twelve and thirteen? Yeah, yeah, one of them. She
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was training up with me till like eight weeks about to have a baby,
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and then she just had the child two days ago, so we you know,
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yeah, congrats for her. An amazing she's an amazing woman. She's
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been with me for about eight years. So you personally train her. I
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personally train her. But she's a member. You have to be a member
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to do one on one. Membership. One on one's not no, it's
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extra. Oh yeah, but yeah, she is now out for a few
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months. So yeah, we had an open open situation where we lost someone
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but they'll be back. But that's you know, that's what happens sometimes.
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But she was one guy looked at her during a session. We don't have
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classes, we call them sessions, and he said, you know, you
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make me look like terrible because when I first came in, I was scared,
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and I was scared to get hit. But here you are about to
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pop and you just going at it. And she looks at him and goes,
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yeah, no excuses, and I was like, that's awesome. Yeah,
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nice. Yeah. So I mean I know boxing and you know fight
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clubs or whatever you want to call them. There's it's a whole different mentality.
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Yep. You know, I can't even throw a right hook anymore because
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on my shoulder and my carpal tunnel. Oh sure, but I know a
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lot of guys that were into boxing. I have won one quick boxing story.
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I was a freshman in college and we had I went to you here
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at University of Hayman. Okay, we had like these little like the freshman
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dorm is like you know, five bedrooms and then a little hall community hall,
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which was maybe the size of this whole studio, and some upperclassmen came
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in with some boxing globs. No boy, and I don't I don't know
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how to fucking box, but I had a lot of energy back then and
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whatever. So a couple of guys are boxing. I'm like, some guy
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looks at me, goes, you want to throw on the gloves. I'm
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like sure. So I'm in like three minutes with this guy, and I
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could well he knew how a box. He popped me a couple of times,
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but I landed a good one, and you know, and he went
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three minutes. I went three minutes, exhausted, but I landed a good
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one right at the end. Idn knock him out or anything, but he
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felt it and felt great to me. You know, I got bumped her
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out a little bit, but I you know, I kind of got the
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last fucking knock in, right. So there's this other kid that must have
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been his buddy that got pissed that I got that shot in because he's probably
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never seen his buddy get hit before. And I'll tell you right now,
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it was all fucking luck. I just you know, I had no skill
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and bolo punk yeah, yeah, And then he looks at me and he's
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like, let's go. I'm like, dude, I'm fucking exhausted. He
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goes, not at all, No, let's go. You think you could
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take him. I'm like, dude, like I'm like whatever, you just
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let all your gas. Yeah, I'm like fine. So we're about thirty
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seconds in. We hadn't really thrown a punch yet, and I backed up
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and I didn't know where I was, like within the like ring. Let's
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say, I backed up and I put my gloves up and he kind of
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hit me with around it with a good you know, hit me pretty good,
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but my head hit this fucking concrete wall behind me, and I got
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concussion. Yeah, and I just you know, I called time. I
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got down and eat, and this motherfucker it's like parading around talking ship pointing
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at me. I'm like, dude, One, I was exhausted. Two
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it wasn't the punch that fucking just n me out right, and I vowed
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again another box. Yeah, but but most people real boxing gloves, and
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it's funny like you put a real boxing like I got nick Noodle's gloves up
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there, but those are m m a, you know, real ones are
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heavy either. Oh, yeah. Everyone thinks, oh, they weren't pats
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and punching it. No, no, it's added. Yeah. Yeah.
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So have you fought professionally not pro amateur? Yeah? Yeah, I fought
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pros. What's your amateur record? Thirty and four? Oh yeah, awesome?
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Yep, nice, Yeah, that's Vegas here both ye nice. Do
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you do amateur matches in your gym or do you guys go? Not yet,
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we might in the future. It's it's a whole process with USA Boxing
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to have to come down and sanction it, make sure that your facility is
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up to par. You have to pay them to get the officials and all
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that. I do want to hold an event. A lot of clubs and
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gym's whole events. There was just a major historical in Greenwich that had like
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four thousand people and that had four jumbo trons and was outside by the water.
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This was the first time anything like this has been done, let alone
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in the state of Connecticut. So, you know, hopefully things continue to
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happen like that. I have my own dreams of doing something like that.
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But you usually go outside of your facility to hold an event, but you
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don't have to. You could do it inside your licensing. But yeah,
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you know thing right, right right, sematics right with the state of boxing
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how it is now, it's kind of been this way forever before before you
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got here. I was looking at, you know, all the current champions,
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and what I meant to say was semantics. I said, sematics.
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What something I think? Sematics? Yeah, right, And I was looking
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at all the current champs, and I think one of the problems with and
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I find this problem with soccer is I can't get too invested in it because
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I think it's like I like NFL boom, it's in front of me,
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thirty two teams. They all play for one thing. It's four major sports,
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you know, Baseball, basketball, football, hockey. They all have
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the same thing. They're doing some dumb in n season tournament in the NBA
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now whatever. But like when MESSI went to Miami, they want something.
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It was like an in season something, and then the regular season picks back
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up and they don't make the playoffs. So when I look at boxing,
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and well, let's stick with soccer. There's all these leagues, I can't
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follow it. With boxing, they it's so hard to unify a belt,
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right, Well, I mean, we had the four belt era, which
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to me is like WBO, IBF and WBO. Yeah, so why can't
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they just get their shit together? I mean, I have no problem with
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the four four belts. I'll deal with that, but I agree. But
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I think that I think it's easy to answer that question when you really think
24:32
about it. I think boxing was made because of the way that it was
24:36
put into play who was in power, mostly the mafia at the time.
24:41
I think that it's been made to have vulnerabilities so that corruption can be there,
24:49
you know what I'm saying. Like a lot of people say what you're
24:52
saying, but they don't realize that boxing is a business disguised as a sport.
24:57
That's one of the sayings. And it's designed in a way so that
25:04
it can be corrupted. The people want any any sport that is judged is
25:11
designed to be correct, right right, Like the Olympics yep, so fantastics,
25:17
yeah, diving, yeah exactly, they're not on the grand stage of
25:19
It's not the same kind of money, but at the same time, at
25:22
different countries it is. Yeah, yeah, And I mean boxing has a
25:26
ton of money, right Like boxing. You can't say that about because boxing
25:30
people make millions and millions of dollars just for one fight in their purse,
25:36
whether they win or lose. And that has nothing to do with what they
25:38
do after the fight, right, with their careers or what market they get,
25:42
what deals they get. But if you look at sports as a whole
25:45
now, I don't want to see boxing lagged behind because it's all about TV
25:51
money now, right. You know. I know they've been doing pay per
25:52
views since the dawn of time, as does you know MMA, and they're
25:57
doing crossover events whatever. I think there's stupid. Uh, but the NFL,
26:03
Like you look at the NFL, would you rather go to a game
26:06
or sit in your fucking man cave with surround sound? You know, not
26:10
worrying about drinking and driving? See it? You know you got seventy inch
26:14
screen? Get it better? Yeah, you see it better? And I
26:17
think with boxing, not that you know, it's an attendance sport, but
26:22
I feel, you know, if they make it simpler with the belts and
26:26
what we're really going at and promote the boxers better, I don't. I
26:32
think back in the day they promoted better with like I said, eight channels
26:34
than they do now. I was looking down the champions list outside of Tyson,
26:40
Fury and Canelo. I didn't know a lot of those names. And
26:44
you know, I'm not a huge boxing fan per se, but it always
26:47
interesting. I'd like to see the big fights. I'm casual, but at
26:49
the same time, I'm going down this list. I'm like, who trust
26:55
I'm a sports guy, so if I know something's big coming up, I
26:59
will do a little research, you know, like with soccer. Now,
27:02
soccer guy, but watched the fucking World Cup. I'll watch. I watched
27:04
when Messi went first game in Miami in school. I like moments like that,
27:10
right, And I think boxing needs a real promoter, like you know,
27:15
like a Dana White, you know, like that is. You know,
27:18
he might not be the best love guy within the sport, but he's
27:22
the don king of his generation, you know, promoting these guys. That's
27:26
because I mean to promote the sport, not the individual guys. Well,
27:30
that's because the promoters like al Haman don't even want their name said, you
27:36
know what I mean, because they're staying on the back end of things.
27:38
A lot of you know, the Bob Arams and stuff like that. They
27:41
just want to make their money. So if you if you dare reached in
27:45
their pocket and suggested that should there should just be one Dana White, I
27:51
mean you might get your head cut off. Well that'll change eventually, because
27:55
you know, he founded it. He founded the UFC, not that there
27:59
weren't other competing companies or he brought it together. And I met him once
28:03
in Boston and he was the nicest guy. He's brilliant. Yeah, he's
28:07
brilliant. His backstory is pretty crazy, Yeah it is. Yeah, he
28:11
was like working in Boston and I think he worked for like a construction company.
28:17
He worked with Roger and Nick one kid in the same gym. He
28:21
has a story about Roger and it's on Joe Rogan's podcast. But about Roger
28:26
Kickings. You know, when he was forty five, kickings some twenty eight
28:30
year old heavyweight ass to the point that he got on his knees and begged
28:34
to stop, and Rogers leaned in and goes no rounds with me, motherfucker,
28:40
and just keeps hitting him. I mean Roger was brutal. Yeah,
28:44
I mean, this guy's name I think was Tracy. But yeah, he
28:48
worked with the Mayweathers very close. They all worked together in Vegas because that's
28:52
the mecca right, you know, Oh man, I just wish the casual
28:57
fan, or not even the casual whish they would promote the sport, let's
29:02
say a little better, make it easier to watch classier, you know.
29:07
Yeah, like ESPN does their best or they used to be pretty good at
29:11
it, you know, Saturday night fights or but it was always late on
29:15
the weekend. I related to like the WNBA, like ESPN is, like,
29:21
you know, pays all this money. It's a it's a losing business,
29:23
not saying boxing is it loses money annually. And they just had their
29:27
finals and they put Game three on a fucking Sunday against football. Brutal,
29:36
brutal, have it, have it Monday at seven. When it's over,
29:38
people can go watch Monday night football, right, you know. Or it's
29:41
like, what do you guys like were the amateur events on Saturday? One
29:45
of my fighters just fought at twelve thirty at night because USA Boxing was so
29:51
disorganized. That's not really that fair, you know what I mean. And
29:56
then when you think about it, if every state is having amateur fights on
30:00
Saturdays, but the pro fights are on Saturdays, and who's supporting these profights?
30:04
Right? They can't even get home in time because their fighters are fighting
30:08
right to watch the profight. It's it's just it's all, it's all a
30:14
mess. I mean, it's on way too late, way too late.
30:17
Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed, like you know, And I think
30:21
what they should do is, you know, their next big fight, don't
30:25
make it a pay per view. UFC does this a lot. Yeah,
30:27
you know, yeah, they'll show some big cards. They're much better at
30:30
it, yeah, much better. You know, they'll you know, you're
30:33
gonnaet the advertizing money, you know, promote it for three months, right,
30:38
you know. And of course a lot of these guys back out or
30:41
they get hurt, or they test poorly or I don't know, it's so
30:44
weird sport man, Yeah that stuff. Who are some of your favorite boxers
30:48
for your childhood? Now? I mean that's hard to say childhood because I
30:53
grew up on Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson, and I think that was everybody
30:59
who's like childhood favorites. I mean, Floyd Mayweather was technically my childhood so
31:04
obviously, you know, Uh, if I look at history, I like
31:10
Marvin Hagler, I like uh Parnell Whitaker who fought Roger. I like Roger.
31:15
You know, I would say I like Sugar Ray Robinson, but you
31:18
can't really see a lot of footage of him because that's so old. If
31:22
we go to now, I like, you know, Jeroon, Ennis Chakor
31:26
Stevenson, Gervonte, Davis, uh Cremel Molten who's coming up and just had
31:33
his pro debut, and I've met him and talked to him at the Mayweather
31:36
Boxing Club. He's always there all you know, all these big names that
31:41
you know, Terence Crawford, I like Eryl Spence. You know, these
31:45
are all great fighters. I knew about half of them. Yeah that's okay,
31:51
Chaquar Stevenson and are still coming up. Yeah, Terrence Crawford just beat
31:56
Spence. He he's a hell of a fighter. But I think he's he's
32:00
saying he's going to be done soon, you know. So I don't blame
32:05
a lot of these guys. And what do you want her? Bain's breathing
32:07
for two decades. No. I love Tyson Fury, Yeah, I love
32:10
Tyson Fury. He was He's a funny dude. He's a really funny guy.
32:15
And he's actually a very good technical boxer. Yes, you know,
32:19
especially for what he looks like in the size and he doesn't even you know
32:23
he he talks about not taking care of himself. It's crazy, crazy talent
32:30
and hard working. He's like a Irish gypsy, isn't he. I don't
32:34
know if it's Irish or English or somewhere in between, but yeah, he's
32:37
a gypsy on the whole family. So I grew up on Tyson. Uh,
32:43
Haggler, hearns hears in our gym too, I remember, not no,
32:47
not him. But we have a post by the way. I did
32:52
watch the video of your ship is all. But it's fucking awesome, fucking
32:57
state of the art stuff. It's like just a little shout out to that.
33:01
I grew up on those guys. I remember. I used to watch
33:02
lock it in my little black and white TV. Was it Sugar Ray Leonard
33:07
against Hagler? Yeah, Sugar Ray Leonard's great Duran Roberto Durham love him,
33:15
amazing fighter. Yeah. But then Tyson came on the scene when I was
33:19
in my I guess he was mid eighties, little maybe eighty six eighty seven,
33:23
So I like you're talking about because, uh, what's his name?
33:30
One of Jeff Mayweather's favorite fighters is drawing a blank right now, but also
33:36
Tommy Morrison and yeah, I mean I love the heavyweights of that era.
33:40
Yeah, you know Spinks, Lennox Lewis is pretty good. Who'd you just
33:45
mentioned Michael Nunn who was who was trained by Joe Goosen at one point and
33:53
they called him second to none. He was an amazing fighter too. Lennox
33:58
Lewis or whole Field, I can't remember which one it was used to train.
34:02
My mom used to have a house up in the Poconos and it was
34:05
like a community of private community. And uh, I think it was Lannax
34:08
Luis. He's the one from Britain, right, Yeah, yeah, I
34:09
think it was him that trained trained in in that you know, like very
34:14
it was like Rockey style training, like running. Yeah, he's a great
34:16
fight. Do you remember I remember exactly where I was when the fan the
34:22
fan guy flew in there. What was it called the fan man that flew
34:25
into the ring? Oh? Yeah, it was a holy Field. I'm
34:29
not sure what the fight was exactly what it could I think it might have
34:32
been Riddick though, yeah, I think it was. And I was at
34:37
it's it's it's no longer there, but it was Milford Highli Yeah, and
34:40
uh, they showed all the pay per views back then, so every Saturday,
34:44
and it wasn't working as stormers and it's in nineties, I guess it
34:46
was. And we'd go down over there and watch the fights and you could
34:51
bet on them, yep, and uh, the fucking it was like so
34:54
confusing, what the fuck was going on? Yeah, but I liked Holyfield,
35:00
but Tyson, I'll always remember where I was when I found out he
35:04
lost to uh Buster Douglas, Buster Douglas and rid Riddick Bow. Did he
35:09
fight Riddick Bow? I don't think so, No, I'm thinking of someone
35:14
else, but yeah, Buster Douglas, I mean Douglas obviously was his downfall
35:19
of losing. That is when he spiraled out of control of life, right
35:22
and ended up in prison, right, and then when he came out,
35:24
he fought some kid from Boston. I mean he technically lost to holy Field
35:30
too, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, bye, Yeah he was
35:34
before that. But so I was watching the NBA All Star Game. See
35:38
back then everything was taped delayed, but they were fighting in Japan, so
35:44
that was you know, twelve hours or whatever, you know, So we're
35:46
watching me and my buddy watching the NBA All Star Game and whatever year it
35:49
was eighty seven, eighty eight on ABC and the announcers I was like,
35:54
Bob Costa says, Mike Tyson has lost, and yeah, because he was
35:59
like fifty woner. You know, Douglas was fifty to one to win that
36:01
fight. Yeah. People and know Buster Douglas and Roger would always talk about
36:06
boxing history. It was a very very good Midwestern boxer. Yeah, people
36:09
just didn't know. And then he lost his ship after that. Yeah,
36:14
it's yeah, you know a lot of these guys can't handle because he wasn't
36:15
good, but because he couldn't handle fam Yeah, he gained. He got
36:19
up to like close to four hundred pounds, He gained all his weight.
36:22
Yeah. Another one is Oliver McCall and he and he he was really really
36:28
good from the Midwest, but he lost. You know, Roger would take
36:30
us over to this collage that we have like our own collage in the gym,
36:35
and he would just point at it and say who's he and he say
36:38
he lost to him Midwestern boxer. You know, there's a big on to
36:44
the Midwestern boxers. Wow. And the thing about Tyson too is he was
36:47
such a historian of the game too, right, he like really knows shit.
36:52
He just knows history, yes, boxing history, but history in general.
36:57
Everyone thinks he's kind of a dope, but he's not. No,
37:00
No, sound was just super smart. Custom Attol, custom model passed away.
37:05
That was kind of it too. And then you have Teddy Atlas,
37:07
who's extremely intelligent. You know, he had a team behind him back then.
37:10
Yeah, he was unbelievable. I mean, Rooney, it was you
37:15
know, it was a joke. It was a joke back then because the
37:17
pay per views, you know, they were still pretty expensive back there,
37:20
forty bucks, fifty bucks. Yeah, and you know you're only going to
37:23
get sixty seconds of an event, right, But you didn't care. You
37:27
just wanted to see Tyson fight knock somebody fucking The Spinx fight I think lasted
37:30
forty one seconds or something amazing, and that dude was big. Spinx was
37:35
a boxer. He was a great boxer. Oh man, bring it back
37:38
all these memories of childhood. Yeah, boxing is one of those things that
37:43
does that. You know, it's very nostalgic, it is, and uh,
37:46
I really hope it makes it. I'm not saying it's dead, but
37:49
if we can get back through the eighties and nineties, especially the head I
37:52
mean heavyweights where you want to see it. Floyd did a lot of good
37:54
for the sport. He did. He did, and I think that when
37:58
he retired it kind of went a little argue that his style wasn't really I
38:02
think that I think you could argue anything, but I think that you know,
38:07
the fact that he's undefeated in a way heard it because of how the
38:13
kids coming up now think of it. What do you think about the Paul
38:15
Brothers. No, I mean great businessmen. Now, I'll leave it at
38:20
that. Are they actually going to fight somebody that isn't a crossover? Good
38:24
businessmen? And you know, like like I think it was was a jake
38:30
that went the round the full rounds with Mayweather? Yeah, I mean,
38:32
no, it was. It was It was logan and so much size difference
38:37
there, true and and age and age, and it was an exhibition,
38:42
right, So I'm sure they were like, don't knock me out, you
38:45
know, I I think you say it perfectly. You know, they're they're
38:50
great businessmen. Before they got into boxing, they just marked themselves very well.
38:57
I'm not a huge fan of the way I know our Milford Bough hangs
39:00
with them on their podcast. But uh, yeah, I just want to
39:05
I just wanted to lose once. But I feel like there are there.
39:07
I feel almost that they're a little humble too, which I didn't expect out
39:10
of them. Right, Yeah, like are they're definitely not like super super
39:14
cocky. Definitely would be Like I feel like if I hung out with them,
39:19
right, i'd get along grade Yeah, you know what I mean.
39:22
They're they're super smart. There's no stupidity there. They know exactly what they're
39:25
doing. You know. Well, they did buy a two million dollar Pokemon
39:30
box and it was fake. So when you have a lot of money to
39:34
spend, yeah, it's like me buying a fucking iced coffee with almond milk
39:37
in it instead of regular. Right, that was my five dollar mistake,
39:39
right, equivalent to their two millions. Yeah, exactly. There you go.
39:44
Let's get into some movies one of my favorite topics. Uh, we
39:47
can talk any movies you want, but we'll start with boxing. Two questions,
39:52
what's your favorite boxing movie limited to two if you want, And what's
39:57
your most realistic movie non documentary realistic boxing movie that you've seen and you can't
40:02
say Rocky, because that is not no. No, Rocky never put his
40:08
hands up ever. No, I mean Rocky. It was like I think
40:14
the first Rocky was kind of like what how people thought of boxing back then?
40:20
Yeah, you know, like, oh, just cut open the eye,
40:24
you know, make me bleed more. You know. I really like
40:28
The Fighter, man, I really, I really yeah that was Mickey Warden.
40:34
I like the story, and I think you know what's funny is like
40:37
if you look at these franchise clubs or even there's a guy that I know
40:43
who's a terrible boxer and pro. He was a sparring partner. He was
40:46
bad then and he became a coach. A lot of guys that become coaches
40:52
shouldn't even though they were fighters. Uh, if you see some of these
40:57
guys hold pads, they're freaking extremely awful. Christian Bale is such a talented,
41:01
freaking actor, Like if you see him and Vice, I mean playing
41:06
Dick Cheney, it's incredible. But the way he held pads in the Fighter,
41:10
it was like he's better than most coaches. I mean, that movie's
41:15
epic. That movie is freaking amazing. I love that movie and it touches
41:21
on you know, social concerns with drugs and all. Right, and you
41:23
know, especially in you know, they're outside of Boston, and right,
41:28
that's kind of how those towns have been for years. Right, And I'm
41:30
a huge This is kind of off because I'm a huge Max Bear fan and
41:37
I'm a huge Russell Crowe fan. So I loved Cinderella Man. I did
41:43
not like its portrayal of Max Bear and his family also noted on that.
41:50
But I love that film. I love that film. So I would say
41:52
The Fighter in Cinderella Man would probably be my top two boxing movies of all
41:58
time. There's none that you know. I I still haven't seen The Vinnie
42:01
Passy Ends a movie and someone portrayed Roger in that movie because he fought Vinnie,
42:07
and I still haven't seen it. Bleed for this, I heard great
42:12
things, though, I heard fantastic things. I should probably go home and
42:15
watch it today. But those you know, Cinderella Man as of right now,
42:20
in the Fighter would be my top two. I don't really like Southpaw,
42:23
not really a big fan of South Pauw. I don't like Yeah,
42:28
I mean, I listen, I don't I shouldn't have to do any of
42:30
the story but I like I do, and I like I like jar Head.
42:36
I liked jar Head, and I like Kurt Sutter at all. We
42:40
could talk them all day, but I love Kurt Sutter as a writer.
42:45
So I don't know where Southpaw really got. Yeah, but it didn't work
42:50
for me. I don't think I've ever watched it in its entirety, but
42:52
yeah, I just can't there you go, Yeah, I couldn't get it
42:54
into it. My two fades are we share common the Fighter but Rocky four.
43:02
But you said we can't say I said, you can't say Rocky for
43:07
most realistic. Oh okay, got you got you. But Rocky four if
43:10
you don't get goosebumps like six times in that movie and it's all chill,
43:15
it's all like, you know, him training in Russia, the out running
43:19
the Russian car during the time dies because I'm sure you like a miracle miracle
43:27
Yeah yeah, So I mean that was that time period, right right,
43:30
the Cold War? All that stuff. I don't know, and it's relevant
43:37
now yeah, yeah, right. I think if I'm sitting on my couch
43:43
and it's a Sunday on tn T, I don't turn it off. I
43:45
mean, I can't turn off any rocky movies if it comes on. I
43:49
took it. Ones don't. The only one I haven't seen that is Creed
43:52
three, which I don't watch. Creed is not rocky to me, and
43:54
I didn't like the first one, so I won't watch. Like five,
43:58
we were talking about Tommy Gun Yeah, I mean because yeah, yeah,
44:01
yes, yeah. I don't know, Like you can say whatever you want
44:07
to say. I didn't write the movies. I thought the fucking ending was
44:10
fantastic, right, the street fight, right, But I thought, like
44:14
all lead up to it was just like, Okay, great, our dude's
44:17
got dementia, his wife died, he's now owns a shitty Italian restaurant.
44:22
Where are we going with this? What about Balboa? Again? Like that
44:27
was who was in that? Uh? Who's the real boxer that was in
44:30
that? Who fight? I don't know, I don't remember. It wasn't
44:34
Mayweather, but it was it was like an older I can't remember because he
44:38
fought a real boxer in the end. You have to look it up,
44:42
I guess, because we have to know. Now it's gonna kill me because
44:45
I've seen that movie like three times and that's not even the you know,
44:49
what's funny about Balboa is that the fighting doesn't stick out to me in Balboa,
44:53
but I still love the movie. Yeah, I mean it's hard to
44:57
go like, I'm a Stillone guy, a Schwartzenator guy, grew up on
45:00
all those actual movies and now now I'm even watching, uh, the Expectacles,
45:07
you know. Oh yeah, is it worth because I haven't seen any
45:09
of them? Oh my god, this is just fun. It's like you
45:12
don't have to pay attention on your iPhone attack. You just look up and
45:15
there's more explosions. That's cool. But all right, we're gonna figure this
45:19
out. So all right, so you did your two favorites. Is there
45:22
any Is there any boxing movie that like you were like, wow, the
45:24
like I watch football movies. I watched basketball movies. I watch hockey movies.
45:29
There's always something because I'm such a sports nut. It's like, man,
45:32
they could have done that scene better or well, especially football movies I
45:36
think are so The action parts of it are so terrible. Gary Oldman and
45:40
Daniel day Lewis are probably my number one actors of all time, and The
45:46
Boxer had Daniel day Lewis in it, and I just wish it was a
45:52
little bit. I don't I don't want to say better because Daniel day Lewis
45:58
doesn't do bad movies. But like, there are things that I wish were
46:01
kind of more in it than what was. All Right, here's the cast
46:07
we got, so that's just the load obviously. Oh. By the way,
46:10
Bert what's his name just passed away? Yeah? Bert, Bert Young?
46:15
Yeah, Yeah, I loved him. Yeah, sad, sad too
46:19
young. Outside of the Rocky movies he was in was going back to school
46:25
with ye. I think it's like the only other movie was it. We
46:31
also forgot to say Raging Bull. I mean that's a good movie too,
46:37
that's a great one. Old School. Well Tyson was in but that's not
46:42
who he fought. It was Rocky Balbo, right, Yes, who the
46:49
heck? Skip Bayless was in it, of course Skip Bayless surprised. Uh,
47:00
Larry Merchant wasn't in it. Larry Merchant was in it? Oh there,
47:06
Newman, where the hell is there's a lot of sorry for this.
47:15
No, I'm asking you to do it. I know I'm Frank Stallone was
47:19
in it. His brother I follow him online. I must have missed it
47:23
right off the rip because he was the it was the whoever he fought in
47:27
the main event. Oh, I went right by Antonio Tarvor. Oh,
47:31
okay, it's not not one of my favorite fighters. He's good, No,
47:37
he's good. He's good. He's definitely good. So I can't really
47:39
think of a boxing movie. You know. Maybe The Fighter had some good
47:45
scenes in it. I think the fighters awesome, but I mean like realistic
47:49
scene. Yeah, I mean said Raging Bull. You know, it's hard
47:53
to like actually recreate getting punched the fuck in the face. Yeah, I
47:58
mean, listen at that definitely has it. There's definitely ability with camera work
48:04
to do things like that. But when you really think about it, if
48:07
you take Mma versus uh, Jean Claude van Dam and watch Jean Claude van
48:14
Dam movies, I mean, or it's Steven Siegal's none of it's realistic.
48:17
It's all choreographed, you know what I mean. So it's gonna be with
48:21
a boxing movie, you know what I'm saying. It's just it's not always
48:23
beautiful, you know, And like Bernard Hopkins falling on his head in his
48:28
last fight, like that's the kind of shit that happens you know in real
48:30
life. Yeah, in real life. Yeah, I just I always joked
48:34
about the Rocky movies, and it's like when he would make his comeback,
48:37
you know, they style it after like wrestling, you know, right,
48:40
It's like you're you're you're up at the beginning, and you go down,
48:43
down, down until you have your whole Coogan moment and your arm's going like
48:45
this, and then he just starts taking punches to the face for a round,
48:49
like I got this, I got this well. One of I think
48:52
my favorite overall boxing any like not realistic but any film, would be the
49:00
TV show that only did one season on FX called lights Out that had Hult
49:05
McCallany in it, who played the main character. He was a guy in
49:10
Fight Club, which I love that movie fight Club, But that lights Out
49:15
was awesome. It was like twelve episodes long. And what I loved about
49:19
it is it really painted the dynamic between the business side of it and the
49:24
gym side of it. It didn't really do so well with the fighting and
49:28
you know, but the training and the business part of it was like right
49:32
on the nail, right on the nail. If you could fight anyone,
49:37
if I could fight anyone, I mean, who would you like not to
49:43
get your ass kicked, but okay, not to get no. I mean
49:46
I want to fight Tyson is from no, Like like, who would you
49:50
love? That's your weight class that you would mind? Now? Is this
49:52
back when I was a fighter, Back when I was a fighter, I
49:57
would take the clout to fight Floyd. Yeah, just to get the clout.
50:00
Ask kicked or not, just to get the clout. That was back
50:05
when I was a fighter. Right, as long as his uncle could be
50:07
in my corner, not his, you know what I mean, Like then
50:10
I could have some secrets, you know, but I probably wouldn't. Did
50:15
you meet One time I went up to him, I shook his hand.
50:19
What was cool is when I was down in that club, they wouldn't kick
50:22
us out if we were fighters for watching him spar so. We got to
50:25
see him spar multiples of times and that was some of the best education I've
50:30
ever had. But when I met him, all he said is listen to
50:34
everything my uncle tells you everything. But what's even beyond meeting Floyd was having
50:43
the experience of watching other guys and meeting them, and then watching him make
50:50
contact with other fighters. I mean that was you know, that's like college,
50:54
you know what I'm saying I went to Yukon, but my college experience
51:00
was Mayweather Box. Oh yeah, yeah, it's not last week. We
51:05
talked about the value of high school and college at this point right the world.
51:09
Yeah, you know, with all the technology at your fingertips. Yeah,
51:13
it's crazy. It's money, that's all it is. Do you fear
51:17
for ai? Yeah? Oh yeah. You know what's funny is what fucked
51:22
me up as a kid was my dad showed me like Terminator at a very
51:29
young age, Terminator one, and he was like, you know, you
51:31
even made it through the eye gouging scene, and he was like, I
51:36
was like, what was this a test? Because when we got to the
51:38
part where you know, I was fine and then you see him come out
51:43
of the fire and it's that metal and those skeleton and that was coming out
51:47
of the events at night after me. Oh yeah, for years I was
51:53
like five or six, I'm thirty five. Oh yeah, I hate saying
51:58
it. I'm forty nine. It up, I know, it's just so
52:01
short, you know. And his buddy on and I tried. They're both
52:05
musicians, right, These guys fucking Hawkins didn't know who Eminem was. You
52:09
know, how insane is that. I bring up bands to him all the
52:13
time and he's like, nah, no, yeah, I'm like, you're
52:16
here playing Rage against the Machine, right, so you gotta know something.
52:20
He's like, I just I just heard the chords and the lyrics. I
52:22
did it. It's crazy. He's crazy talented. He is, he's the
52:25
they're both actually the kid Tyler that was on Too a Vision. He's really
52:29
good too, different, different kind of genre of music. But right,
52:34
excuse me what they do. So Fury's coming up, right, he's got
52:37
his heavy Yeah, I want him. I don't care about the Iguana fight,
52:42
even though my boy trains him. I mean, I love Dewey Cooper,
52:45
but and Mike Tyson's helping out now too in that. But I'm really
52:49
just waiting to get that done so I could watch him fight and win.
52:52
But he's gonna go against Alexander Usik, who the other three belts. That's
52:59
gonna be. Yeah, that's fire. I've never seen him. That's Russ
53:01
Ambert's. He does the cutman for that guy. And he's in Loma's corner
53:07
too, Loma Chenko, so you know that's one of my favorite trainers of
53:12
all time. So that will be like just a great, great everything there.
53:15
What happened to Deontay Wilder? Deontay Wilder is I don't was he overhyp
53:23
him? No? I mean he definitely has that power, you know,
53:29
like if you get hit with that, you're in trouble. Man. It's
53:31
like me taking a sledgehammer to someone. You know. But he's not he's
53:37
not skilled, you know, he's not skilled like that, Like he's not
53:39
on the level. You know. The guy that came into my club was
53:44
going to fight him, he was, he was scheduled to fight him,
53:46
and then there was you know, talk about steroids and stuff like that,
53:50
so it didn't happen. I feel like that, you know, there's it's
53:52
a sport obviously prominent with drug us. What's funny, you'll love this performance
53:58
in him. My dad went to college with uh, what's his first name,
54:04
but a guy named Finkelstein who is the manager for cream Eric Clapton's Cream.
54:12
Yeah, and then he became the manager. That's how See, this
54:15
is what these USA boxing officials don't get. They're all trying to work their
54:17
way up to get somewhere so they could become a pro something. It's not
54:24
how it works, guys that managed bands like Cream, become managers for boxers,
54:34
and he was Finkelstein was the manager for Deontay Wilder. So it's a
54:37
small world. You know. You have an f a sticker right here,
54:40
and I wish I had a sticker to put on this desk. Damn it.
54:44
Yeah too bad. Maybe one day you don't have any stickers, not
54:47
anymore. Oh yeah, I have a logo. I'm going to wrap this
54:52
table up pretty soon, So get me a sticker. I will, Yeah,
54:54
I will. From Stomp they do, I don't know, they're pretty
55:00
good. They I got like fifty die cuts for like twelve dollars. And
55:04
this is cool. Yeah, this is very cool. Yeah, Nick Nowell's
55:07
sticker looks really cool. Yeah. Do you see his movie? No?
55:10
No, no, I didn't even know he had one. Yeah, so
55:13
he has, so somebody portrayed him. Wow, yeah what and honor?
55:17
Yeah, I'll give you the link after. That's the way that it was
55:21
an actual like movie. How you know when he was in college and wow,
55:24
how he won the belt you know a few years back. I mean
55:29
it's about time, right, Yeah, And it was funny they he said
55:32
it on the show. We were talking about you know, the current state
55:37
of the world, and he said, you know, the actor that portrayed
55:42
him, they digitally took his arm out, and you know, the group
55:45
for handicap people protested the movie because they didn't use a handicap person that didn't
55:52
have you know, and Nick was like, that was the case. I
55:54
just would have played myself, you know, like this guy knew how to
55:59
box, and you know, like was an actor when I was going to
56:01
pick somebody out with one arm and bring him on the fucking movie they're all
56:05
doing. You know, that's funny. But the movie was actually very good.
56:07
Nick. It was funny before I went, because I go to Vegas
56:12
like two three times a year to go visit Jeff. And before I went
56:16
last time, I was talking to Nick and he said, oh, you're
56:21
going to Nick one Kicks Jim. He said, make sure you tell him
56:24
the story that So Nick one Kick, he's he's just a trainer of all
56:30
things, and he has a Doberman pincher that he trained. So I guess
56:37
it saw a body dummy because of Nick's one arm. Last time he was
56:42
there and he just went after Nick Nowle because he thought, oh, it's
56:46
like a training dummy because it has no arm. So I was laughing my
56:52
ass off. And when I get to the gym, right when I said
56:55
to Nick one kick, Hey, Nick, nowle had this story from me,
57:00
and he's like, I'll tell you one, and he told me the
57:01
story again before I could even tell Yeah. It was like, oh,
57:07
I guess that really happened. I thought he was just joking because he makes
57:09
fun of himself all the time. Oh yeah, so so I thought it
57:13
was just like a joke. I didn't even know that that actually really fucking
57:15
happened, you know what I mean. But it's funny it. Nick's great
57:19
man. Uh, it was fun going in and watching his classes. I'm
57:22
too old to get in that type of ship, but uh, he has
57:27
so many people there, man, Yeah, he does crazy, he does.
57:30
He got He's got like four year old five year old kids in there.
57:31
Yeah. It's I'm like kicking ass. Oh yeah, you know,
57:37
make sure you're nice to him, yeah right, yeah, yeah, all
57:39
right, just wrap it up on back to your business. So you're always
57:45
welcoming people in to check the place out via email though, right, yeah,
57:49
mamba box and was just rolling in and praying to Jesus no or to
57:55
the floor. Yeah, yeah, very strange. What your hours are up?
58:00
You open seven days a week? Yeah, so we're open six days
58:02
a week eight am to twelve pm. Then we reopen five to nine pm
58:07
Monday through Thursday, and then on Fridays and Saturdays we remain closed at noon.
58:14
Sundays we're just closed. Yes, you gotta watch football. Yeah.
58:17
I think the old school boxing thing was like go to church. That's not
58:23
necessarily my thing, but yeah, being a Jew and all, how do
58:31
you feel about Israel right now? That's terrible man, As my people were
58:36
two percent of the world. You know, I was bar mitz Foot.
58:38
I don't go to synagogue now I probably should. I haven't since I was
58:43
thirteen. But it's you know, these people with the free Palestine stuff just
58:50
don't know the history. There's some people that I know at the Mayweather Boxing
58:54
Club, some really rich ones that come from the Middle least, uh,
59:00
that are just all over their gramma actually like and it to part ways because
59:07
they're spit in that oh, you know, Israel's not right and blah blah
59:13
blah, and it's just it's sickening. It's sickening, man. Like,
59:16
there's what there's one thing to be, you know, on political different spectrums,
59:22
but this takes a whole nother level of I just think it's hate.
59:27
It's what the Nazis did. Yeah. Uh, you could prey Toto much
59:31
to say. Every country in the world has a dark side, right,
59:35
including United States, including of course, of course, of course if you're
59:39
part of these rallies for Palestine again, read a book in some history,
59:45
right, or stop just being evil? Right? Yeah? Or don't decapitate
59:51
babies. Yeah. I read something I don't mean to laugh, but I
59:55
read somewhere where like some guy was like, it wasn't forty babies, and
59:59
like somebody wrote back, who cares if it's one, it's enough you didn't
1:00:05
happen. Yeah, but you know it's when the hospital report came out.
1:00:09
I well, this is where my mind goes usually is you know, I
1:00:14
was taught at early age believe nothing what you read in half of what you
1:00:17
see. Same. And when I read that they were all blaming on Israel,
1:00:22
I knew right away. One, why are they jumping on this?
1:00:25
Dude? You guys are sitting in New York, in fucking California jumping on
1:00:30
these reports. You have no idea and they're coming from Mohammas. So now
1:00:34
they're now they're the trusted source. Are you fucking kidding me? And within
1:00:37
what six hours they had they half the places didn't even retract it. It's
1:00:43
insane, it's insane. I mean, it was a parking lot, it
1:00:45
wasn't the hospital. Israel in Gaza is also home to many Arabs that have
1:00:53
successful businesses. Just like someone could hear in this country and to come down
1:01:00
and condemn Israel after such a brutal attack, right and then not realize,
1:01:08
wait, these people are not racist. They give everybody. You know,
1:01:14
it's a democracy in that country, you know what I mean. So it's
1:01:17
crazy to me to not even consider that there are full on Arab families living
1:01:24
in Israel that benefit from the country itself and are Muslim and they're still coming
1:01:35
down like Israel's a bad guys. But hey, we have that same divide
1:01:38
going on here with a bunch of stuff. You know, there's movements here
1:01:43
that are propaganda and I'm sure you're aware of some of them, and it's
1:01:49
you know, it's it's scary. You know, I don't know what's really
1:01:51
going on, you know, I don't that's I think that's the biggest part
1:01:54
of it is you know, even before COVID, but let's just say since
1:02:00
COVID, you know, all trusted with MSM is gone. So when you
1:02:05
see stuff like this, it's like, why I'm even watching this because I
1:02:07
don't know if this is real? You know, with AI now they're you
1:02:12
know, you know, thank God for a lot of the real fact checkers
1:02:15
on Twitter and stuff like, you know, they're showing images of babies that
1:02:19
are from eight months ago in a different conflict, but they're promoting it as
1:02:22
now. You know, they just want that shot, they want that and
1:02:25
it's like, I don't know, I got a lot of thoughts on it.
1:02:30
Yeah, I mean I think I think hamas US wants to get involved,
1:02:36
and they're much stronger than they used to be. Their goal was to
1:02:38
make Israel respond emotionally, which how else are you supposed to do? And
1:02:45
now it's like good, good slaughter our people, so we could now be
1:02:50
martyrs. That's always been really the objective of terrorists, and you know,
1:02:58
they fight these religious wars and that's the martyrdom is how they get there,
1:03:05
fighting someone that is not afraid to die one iota. They don't care.
1:03:10
They don't know better. Promise they don't know better. Yep. They think
1:03:14
dying, like you said, is martyrrism and they're going to you know,
1:03:17
a thousand women in heaven and that's what they think. And they've been since
1:03:22
day one. They've been thought that. And our military is way down from
1:03:28
what it used to be and they're saying that, like, imagine if they
1:03:31
really drafted. Now China's only three two to three generations behind us in naval
1:03:39
warfare, like we need to wait the funk up. Like that's terrifying.
1:03:45
And when you have, you know, not to get political, but when
1:03:49
you have people's oh go green, no gasoline, well, think about this.
1:03:54
When we pay for electric cars, we're paying for mining of list them
1:04:00
in cobalt, which is slavery from the people that you say not not to
1:04:05
be discriminatory against. Now you're paying for them to enslave those people. But
1:04:11
here's the bigger thing. How are you shipping these cars? How did they
1:04:16
get here? Gasoline? So it takes more gas to ship this stuff fossil
1:04:24
all to get an agenda and pay our enemies and pay our enemies money for
1:04:30
making batteries, we're shooting ourselves in the head all the time. What powers
1:04:35
these charging stations? Unbelievable. Man. I could go on and on,
1:04:42
but we'll wrap it up on our little Israel minute. Do you have any
1:04:45
family over there, like I have one, got my godfather, but we
1:04:51
checked in. He's all right, thank god. He was in Tel Aviv,
1:04:55
so yeah, he's good though not great. Geography is that away from
1:04:59
the strip pretty much? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's still with
1:05:01
it and it's a big city there. I mean, listen, Israel is
1:05:04
a country that you know, if you have family there, they're telling you,
1:05:09
you know what, there's terrorist attack every day, right, this is
1:05:13
this is life for them, right unfortunately. Right, Yeah, that's sad.
1:05:16
It's very sad. Sad. Oh man, all right, Jordan,
1:05:19
thanks so much for coming on. Thank you for having me. Mamba Boxing
1:05:23
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1:05:27
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1:05:50
let's go. No, you'll take some hits for somebody, right, No,
1:05:54
no, I'll let mine in my fighters. Yeah yeah, yeah,
1:05:57
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1:06:40
Billy Joel tonight. I will give a nice little update next week and how
1:06:44
the concert was It'll be great, I'm sure. I mean, you're gonna
1:06:48
know every song. He's the best, you know, a little Long Island
1:06:51
boy. But all right, thanks again, Jordan. Be good and I'm
1:06:57
gonna come and check out this to your please one day please. Sounds good,
1:07:00
Thanks, but thank you.